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Injury Woes Hit Caps (Updated)

As of right now, the Caps are practicing without Viktor Kozlov (knee), Donald Brashear (hand) and Tom Poti (groin) and Sergei Fedorov (rest, I'm assuming).

I haven't heard about any call-ups -- yet. But the day is young and the Caps are tight against the cap, so there's no sense in wasting any money by calling up someone for practice.

Update:Brent Johnson will start tomorrow against New Jersey. It's not because of Jose Theodore's play; it was determined before the start of last night's game, I'm told.

*Poti is not expected to play tomorrow, according to Coach Boudreau. Brashear, meantime, is "iffy".

*If they are unable to play, the Caps will make a recall after the Bears game in Philly tonight. Neither Boudreau nor GM George McPhee would say who would likely be in route to Washington, but Boudreau said it would be one of the three last cuts -- Chris Bourque, Karl Alzner or Quintin Laing.

"There's a chance that if we don't call up a defenseman that [Fedorov] will play defense," Boudreau said. "I'm willing to say if we call up a defenseman, Feds will play forward."

So there you have it.

*After Boudreau got a better look at the first goal last night, he called it "fluky" because the Alex Goligoski's shot hit the side of the net before taking a weird bounce and hitting Theodore on the back of the leg and going in.

*Bradley said he required a dozen or so stitches on the inside and outside of his upper lip after his fight with Paul Bissonnette last night. The complexity of the stitch job, he said, is what prevented him from getting back on the ice sooner.

"I wanted to come back earlier, but it took them to the end of the second period to finish," Bradley said. "It was a tough job; they did a great job."

He added: "Stitches aren't a big deal. After that I was fine."

Bradley said the minor league recall "wanted to make a name for himself" so he began chirping at him and John Erskine early in the game.

"We were down at that point," Bradley said. "So I figured let me do something to spark the team."

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  October 17, 2008; 11:22 AM ET
 
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First!!

Posted by: Steve | October 17, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I'd never been first before...Poti would be big loss...

Posted by: Steve | October 17, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

In football the veteran minimum on in-season signings doesn't count against the cap. is there something to that likeness in the nhl cba? If so, would there be anything that can be done that way for short term fixes to a roster? Not that it would be wise for the caps, but just wondering.

Posted by: ewwsombra | October 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I have just called up Hershey and asked for Laing...

Posted by: GmGm | October 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

My first two picks for call-ups would be Bourque and Alzner.

Personally I'd also call up Varlamov because we've been winning despite getting terrible goaltending. I expect the goalie to stop what he should and some that he shouldn't. So far Theodore isn't even stopping what he should. He scares me to death. I've already lost confidence in him. Every shot on our net causes me to jump. He's also very scary when he comes out to play the puck. He's lucky none of his forays have resulted in goals against yet, but he's terrible at handling the puck and half the time only makes things much worse when he's trying to help the D. I wonder how many more games Boudreau will stick with him if he doesn't improve. It's terrible for a team to know that they have an equivalent of my grandma in goal. Boudreau's position is unenviable. He has no choice, but to play Theodore for now because he's the big free agent signing. What do you do if you call up Varlamov and he plays great? Well, at one point you have to do what's best for the team.

Posted by: ranndino | October 17, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I'd call up Laing, and put Feds on D.

The PK has been terrible, they need something to help.

Posted by: Tyler | October 17, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

How tight against the cap are the Caps? I've read/heard a lot of people talk about this, but I've seen ZERO actual figures.

Posted by: WDC | October 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Steve - do you want a sticker now? I mean really. Must have been the last kid picked for dodgeball.

Posted by: TJ | October 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

We can field a full team at the moment, even with guys out. Because of the salary cap issues, we're not going to call anybody up until absolutely necessary.

If it is determined that Poti might be out a month with his injury pull, then you'll see someone get called up because the Long Term Injury Reserve clause lets us exceed the cap without penalty while the injured player is out for at least 10 games and 24 days.

@ewwsombra - there is no such rule in the NHL, only the LTIR exception noted above. Every player on a roster counts against the cap, even injured players. The LRIR would allow us to call up Alzner to replace Poti if neccesary but as soon as Poti is ready Alzner has to go back down because his presence without any other transactions would put us over the cap, and the LRIR exception only factors in as long as Poti is out.


Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I just came back from practice (stupid work had to interfere with hockey).

I was there for about 30 minutes, they mostly worked on the PP (for obvious reasons).

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 17, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't Laing have waiver issues.

Posted by: Chad | October 17, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

ranndino: If Jose scares you playing the puck you ought to see the highlights of Tampa Bay's game last night.....

Posted by: Don-Ald | October 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

is kozlov on the IR? if he is, doesn't his salary for that time not get included against the cap?

Posted by: IAMOK | October 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

The game I saw last night, Jose got off to a shakey start but calmed down pretty quickly. 2 of the 3 goals scored were deflections, and he held them pretty much most of the 2nd and all of the 3rd. He looked good to me then.

I'm not a JT fanatic. I don't think he's the best goalie out there. He's an upgrade from what we had last year, and better than what we've been seeing of Huet pre-Caps and now. Huet as a Cap was sick, but he had a lot to prove, and I think that was an aberration.

I would be surprised if we have a call-up. If we do, I'd suspect it would be a Bourque or Mink.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

@ IAMOK - guys on the IR's salary counts against the cap. you don't build cap cushion when players are hurt. You can replace them and go beyond the salary cap while they're injured but have to be back under the salary cap before they are ready to play.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Who we call up has got to depend on who's out.I'm not sure about bringing Alzner up right now, because that doesn't leave us a lot of wiggle room, and we've got lots of young guys on the back line. What we don't have is a lot of vets. Losing Poti means we desperately need a vet back there, not another young guy no matter how good. Maybe bring Bourque or Beagle up and put Feds on the blueline if he's okay with that.

Posted by: this space for rent | October 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

@WDC - I believe the caps were $718,899
under the projected season end salary cap when the season started. Its going to be (nearly) impossible for the average fan to know where the actual cap number stands during the season because its calculated daily and would take a lot of effort to keep up with that.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I wish the NHL would just put the team salary cap figures online.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Pretty simple. Put Feds back on the blueline and call up a forward if neither Brash nor Kozzy is ready to go on Saturday.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Don-ald is right. Olie lost the game for the Bolts last night. Poor guy. (tee-hee)Um what's up with another groin injury? Conditioning? Anybody?

Posted by: kevbpgc | October 17, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Feds on the blueline is looking like such a genius move, it's scary.

Posted by: Shaggy | October 17, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Um what's up with another groin injury? Conditioning? Anybody?

Posted by: kevbpgc | October 17, 2008 12:13 PM
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Or maybe crappy ice at the igloo last night?

Posted by: tess | October 17, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Ah October, when speculation and rash conclusions are at their peak...

Posted by: Section 117 | October 17, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

No Poti is a problem. If they call up a D to replace him, who is it? Sami is a bigger dude, but Karl is the better player. Feds is solid, but he isn't Poti.

I would love to see Bourque, but I'm starting to agree with everyone else the calling up "the Q" to help with the PK makes sense long term as well as short term. Doesn't he have to clear re-entry waivers, though?

Random other comment: without Kozlov, maybe Nylander should skate with OV. He's not physical, but he certainly clears more space than Backstrom who hasn't looked too good lately.

The cap is a problem too. None of these guys are going on IR, so maybe they should skate short.

Posted by: old time hockey | October 17, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

@ Sombrero,
Since you seem to know the most about the LTIR, is this something you have to announce immediately? Or say Kozlov is out for at least 10 games, at this point we dont know but say next week it becomes clear he is out for that long. Can we then put him on LTIR retroactive to the first game he missed and calling up Borque, thereby getting that relief for all the games before hes called up as well? So say he out for 12 games we dont call a F up till after the NJ game, do we get the relief for the 10 games or the 12 games?

Posted by: Pat | October 17, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Omar:
I would not be so quick to say, "Poor Malkin." Seeing as he and Ovie used to be friends (and roommates, I believe), there must be some bad blood there for Ovie to keep hunting Malkin down. I can't imagine what happened but something must have - Ovie is just not like that with anyone else (including other top-notch Russian players or Crosby). It probably is not just about the agent incident, but that could certainly be part of it. Who knows ...

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

ok... everyone keeps saying put Fed on the D... I totally agree... except for the little detail of him ALSO being out for now. yes, tarik says he assumes Feds is just getting some rest, but what if it's not that simple??? gotta cover all the angles...

Posted by: CappyCaps | October 17, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

@Sombrero

It's days like today i wish this was more of a classic style bulletin board where we could sticky a few things. Cap info and LTIR. Why Alzner's not here and won't be for a good while.

As for JT. Of 7+change periods of hockey, he's only really looked horrible for 2+change of those. He's been pretty solid since the first period of CHI game.

The way people talk about goaltending here, you would think they are expecting 40 shut-outs a season. Goals will happen. Bad goals will happen. I'll be the first to hop on and call em like they are, but last night 1/3 was on JT, and even that was a bit of luck on the shooter's part. He HAS to get back to his feet. I don't even think the shooter was trying to time it or anything, he just put the puck on net at a bad angle. As for his playing the puck. Much of that has to do with being new to the team. It won't happen all year.

Anyone else noticing a lot more instances of players banking pucks in off goalie's backsides/legs/skates? I never really noticed it as much before the lockout, but it seems to be a planned tactic now all throughout the league.

And, finally. Can somebody in the NHL do something about Igloo's boards? There has to be rules about how lively they are allowed to be. Anyone want to bet it's similar to the Meadowlands where the Giants would open tunnels to mess with opposing kickers? I wonder if between periods they mess with the boards on one end but not the other to make them more lively

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 17, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Stop hitting me! It hurts...Why are you doing this?

Posted by: Evgeni Malkin | October 17, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Part of the reason you also may see some of the shots sneaking in between the goalies and the post and the 5 hole this year is that the goalies are still getting used to the smaller pads. They are used to a certain position with the bigger pads, now they are gone.

Posted by: Jimbo | October 17, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

@Boo

I think it was a strategy to try and take Malkin off his game and open up things for others. I know Malkin had 3 pts, but it allowed our role players to feed off of the energy.

I dont think Crosby could handle big hits due to his size, and a brawl would start easily. Its a little different when your 6-3 and getting hit by a guy smaller then you.

Ovie is also a showman, and he figured he could make him his dog physically without losing the gameplan.

Posted by: SA-Town | October 17, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

SA-Town:
Makes sense, but I also get the feeling that there is more behind it (not just based on that, but also other things that have happened over the past year).

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Jimbo I am pretty sure that the goalie pads have not been changed yet. Look for that to happen next year.

Posted by: Tim | October 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Laing would have to clear waivers. They are not going to call him up and risk loosing him to another team when Bourque, Lepisto and Alzner can all clear waivers. If BB has any say in calling up someone it will be Bourque.

Posted by: HBFan | October 17, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

maybe the spirit squad could fix the groin injury going around the locker room

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I know alot of people love QLaing, but I think he has played his last game with the big boys IMHO. He is 3 or 4 deep in depth. He had already cleared waivers , when being sent to Hershey so there isnt alot of interest in him from other teams.

There are lot of Theo bashers, like Flash bashers. Let the guy play. He has had a couple bad goals, but give the guy a chance. Goalies get into ruts and into grooves, sometimes the puck is like a marble and sometimes it is as big as a beach ball.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | October 17, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey Tarik - what was Glenn Healy doing at practice today?

Posted by: Bethesda, MD | October 17, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Interesting, this is something I didn't realize until just now. If the Caps call up someone to fill in for a LTIR player, the salary counts against the year end cap up until they hit the ceiling.


From NHLSCAP:

The team does not get to automatically tack on the amount of the injured player's salary to the Upper Limit - an example as illustrated in Article 50.10(d) of the CBA illustrates this point:

(a) Illustration: A Player with a Player Salary of $1.5 million becomes unfit to play for more than 24 days and 10 games. At the time the Player becomes unfit to play, the Club has an Averaged Club Salary of $39.5 million, and the Upper Limit is $40 million. The Club may replace the unfit-to-play Player with another Player of Players with an aggregate Player Salary and Bonuses of up to $1.5 million. The first $500,000 of such replacement salary and bonuses shall count toward the Club's Average Club Salary, bringing the Averaged Club Salary to the Upper Limit. The Club may then exceed the Upper Limit by up to another $1 million as a result of the replacement salary and bonuses. However, if the unfit-to-play Player once again becomes fit to play, and the Club has not otherwise created any Payroll Room during the interim period, then the Player shall not be permitted to rejoin the Club until such time as the Club reduces its Averaged Club Salary to below the Upper Limit.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I guess rotating goalies was BB's initial plan. I am all for it. If Bulin will be put on waivers, how many teams ahead of us to pick him? A ton?

Posted by: Dave King | October 17, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Not only does Theodore allow goals between his pants (or should this be his pads) he is the worst when stopping shots with his stick or skates. All rebounds come right to the front of the goal, instead of being deflected into the corners.

Posted by: letsgocaps | October 17, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

@Pat - If I am reading this right, if we bring a player up to replace even a LTIR player, they count against the cap.

If Chris B gets called up, we lose $633,333 (Chris B's salary)/186 (number of days in the NHL season) for every day he is on the roster. Every day Bourque is on our roster we lose $3405 in cap space, even IF he replaces a LTIR player. The exception only kicks in once we hit the ceiling.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

There are lot of Theo bashers, like Flash bashers. Let the guy play.

Do we really have a choice? We've painted ourselves in the corner with Theo.

But I see an improvement. It's 2, 2 and 1 in the last game, I am talking about softies.

Posted by: Dave King | October 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Stay classy, Anon. :P

I suspect Feds just has the day off, and I think that Feds is going to get some say in who gets called if Poti is not skating Saturday. I'm personally in favor of either Lepisto or Bourque.

Posted by: this space for rent | October 17, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

How can there be any question about putting Feds on the blue line now? He dominated in the Caps' 10-shot-against mauling of Vancouver, and the Caps were down 3-0 when he went on D yesterday and end up winning 4-3.

Feds back there gives the Caps two dangerous D-pairings, with Green on the first and him on the second. Bottom line is he's incredibly conscientious on the D, always in the right position, and a phenomenal puck mover.

It's only a couple games, but a damn impressive couple games at that. Looking at how the team lines up on offense, I don't see how it's even a question at this point.

Posted by: katzistan | October 17, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Rolston is out for the Devil's

Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Feds is likely getting a "Jesus, you're 38 years old and you've been playing like you're 24!" day off. Give the old man all the rest he needs on off days if it means he's going to play like he wants another Hart!

Posted by: Birdie | October 17, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

@katzistan

No question, but have you asked Feds? I think his preferred position is a center. He can sacrifices for the team, but if he wants to be a center, you should respect that too.

But I agree, his play in D brings Caps up to another level. Not that he is bad up front.

The guys is simply AWESOME.

BB needs to work with him and convince him for D because D and goaltending are the weakest parts of Caps game.

Put Ovie between the pipes and Feds in D. Problem solved. :-)

Posted by: Dave King | October 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

When will you start your online Q & A? We are looking forward to have them again.

Posted by: Dave King | October 17, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

How about they suprise us all with a Jay Beagle call up?

Posted by: Caps 423 | October 17, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovy was awesome last night. He did have some issues keeping the puck on his stick.. but when he knew things weren't going right for him... he did the next best thing and took the body of Malkin.

The fact that Ovy was +4 means he was on the ice for ever goal. When the Pens were sticking Gill all over Ovy, it left others open to make the best of their chances.

Gordo got his goal because MAF was expecting the pass to Ovy. I was watching the pay unfold and praying Gordo would take the shot, as you could just see MAF cheating towards Ovy.

Keeping Nyls on the 2nd line really forces teams to choose the lesser of 2 evils. Stop Backs and Ovy.. or let Nyls and Semin go crazy on you. We see what teams have chosen so far this year. Wonder if NJ will try something different?

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | October 17, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero:
You missed your calling ... ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

BB needs to work with him and convince him for D because D and goaltending are the weakest parts of Caps game.

Ummm...ok. It's BB's decision where to play his players...it's not up to Sergei...

As for Jose's play last night...(sigh why must I always try to stick up for keepers)...only 1 of the goals can be attributed to bad play.

5 on 3 goals are never the goalies fault...

I'll grant one goal because he should have been positioned against the post.

Give it time people. Goalies have to get used to their defense as much as they have to be in good position and that takes time...and it will probably take a little bit more time because Jose is a south paw...

Posted by: Yosh | October 17, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

And while I'm on the topic of defending keepers...Olie is playing in front of a worse D than he had in DC...and his numbers thus far aren't so bad.

GAA 3 (sucks)
SV% .920

If he had a .920 in DC last year we wouldn't be talking about Jose right now.

Granted it's only 2 games, but compare that to Jose...

GAA 3.62
SV% .859

/just sayin'

Posted by: Yosh | October 17, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Yosh,

Does Theo make you nervous every time he tries to handle the puck?

Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Steve R

"Does Theo make you nervous every time he tries to handle the puck?"

Not as much as everytime ERskine is on the ice or the way Green plays in the defensive zone.

I'll grant the point though that he's more mobile than i'm used to. But again, I think that's going to look better in time...once his defense gets used to his style of play.

He's had that style his entire career...and

Posted by: Yosh | October 17, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

If we are so close to the cap that we cant bring up players gmgm needs to make a move
What is the point of having so much talent in Hershey if we cant make use of it due to fiscal mismanagement? The Caps need to hire a better salary cap expert

Posted by: wendel | October 17, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Laing would have to clear waivers.

Had a Q&A last week. nothing this week, though. Not sure why.

Posted by: Tarik | October 17, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

@sombrero
do you read the ltir to only speak to a replacement player? the reason i ask is would that be based on a 23 man roster? i guess what i am asking is, if you bring up someone now are they the replacement for pothier or just a call up? so would they even qualify for that provision?

Posted by: jay | October 17, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Wendel, what are you talking about? There's plenty under the cap to call someone up for a game or three if needed.

Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

wendel

Again I disagree wholeheartedly.

The point of so much depth is for the future. The majority of Caps depth is no where near ready to be playing in DC....especially the dmen.

They belong in the AHL for the time being where they can get 20-26 minutes per game instead of the 14-16 they'll get in DC.

As for players like Borque, he'll be in DC this year...and probably tomorrow. Lepisto...we'll see him soon though.

Alzner, however, needs to be seasoned some more.

And there is cap space to call up players as needed...because, and Sombrero correct me if I'm wrong...but injured players don't count against the cap? or is that just IR?

Posted by: Yosh | October 17, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

@ Everyone bashing Theodore:

Give the guy a chance. He's only played a few games, and the season is young. I thought Caps fans were better than this. You all sound like Skins fans - one loss, and it's time to fire the coach and clean house personnel-wise. Lay off and let the guy get into his game. He'll settle down. There are still 78 games to go...

Posted by: Big Red | October 17, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

So...i am not too happy with Johnny starting the next game. If BB starts rotating goalies every other game, he will create a goaltending controversy, and I don't think that is good for a young team. Theodore is eating up a lot of our salary cap, shouldn't BB let him play against a low scoring team like NJ? Theo played better, not great, but better yesterday.

Posted by: Me | October 17, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

@ Big Red:

Word.

Posted by: Section 117 | October 17, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Big Red,

I'm not bashing Theo when I say that his puck handling outside of the crease makes me nervous, just stating an opinion.

Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

@Go Skins Go

What did the 1st unit look like today at practice?

Posted by: Mike | October 17, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

big red, i know it's early and i suspect he will settle down. but jose's play must be a concern. too many goals that should be stopped by professional goaltenders. he's made some big saves, no doubt, but his performance can only be classified as shaky at best. the team is not always going to score 4 or more goals. at this point, our goalies need to be good...not great.

Posted by: Cap Fan 1 | October 17, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Tarik

Are you SURE about that? He played 39 games last season. The cutoff is 40. I think they could bring him up, but as some here know, the CBA is not a "user friendly" document even for those of us that deal with contracts all the time.

Boo!

Sombrero Man is a young guy. He could still do CBA analysis.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Greg S,
Its 40 games on the roster, not played...

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 17, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

@ME

A piece of me wants Theo in there as well. It is a long season though, and I think it will play itself out. Keeping two fresh guys can be big, and now is the time to rotate. I would say 60% Theo, and 40% Johnson is good for now

This is also interesting (Cup Winning Goalies)
Osgood - 40 games started
J.S Gigure - 53
Cam Ward - 0
Khabibulin - 54
Brodeur (Doesnt Count..He Is a Machine)

My point is...I dont see how we want Theo in net more then 50 games no matter what.

Posted by: SA-Town | October 17, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Healy works for the PA and was in town with Paul Kelly to meet with the Devils. They came to KCI to check out the facility.

Posted by: Tarik | October 17, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey Tarik.

No Live Chat this week??

Posted by: Comebackkono3 | October 17, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

LTIR doesn't count against the Cap. A player can be placed on LTIR after 24 days or 10 games (thanks, SM!). It isn't an automatic thing, so we can't place Poti on LTIR right now. We have to play without him.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Wondering the same thing. No link for it

Hey Tarik.

No Live Chat this week??

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Friday chat schedule shows no Caps-BOO!

Friday
• Wizards, Ivan Carter -- 11:30 a.m.
• Baseball Playoffs, Thomas Boswell -- 3 p.m.

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Yay...Johnny's going to play against NJ. Good call BB.

Posted by: Cary | October 17, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

From what I've heard:
1) Feds wants to go deep into the playoffs this year
2) Feds likes ice time

I really don't think he has an issue with playing D.

Posted by: C-way | October 17, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Had a Q&A last week. nothing this week, though. Not sure why.

Posted by: Tarik | October 17, 2008 1:35 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

JMU Girl


Considering the rest of the CBA, I'm not sure how to read this. The person who did the final write-up of the contract must have been an English major or had a Thesaurus because you rarely see the same action words used twice in the same sentence. I'm thinking that the word "spent" was a replacement for "played" considering that they're counting the total number of games played in professional games in the phrase before.

“The re-entry waiver will not be applicable to veteran minor league players defined as … for defensemen and forwards, players who have (A) played in 320 or more professional games (NHL, AHL, and ECHL), and (B) not spent more than 80 NHL games over the prior 2 seasons or 40 in the immediate prior season.”

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

@Mike,
I believe the first unit consisted of Nylander, Backstrom, Ovi, Green and Semin.

They looked pretty good. Saw some crisp passing, at times. They had Backs then Nyls sitting in the high slot in front of the net at times. If one of them wasn't in the high slot they were on the half wall, Semin was down low, Ovi and Green were in there usual spots.

The 2nd unit was Laich, Clark (wow those 2 are almost twins), Flash, Ovi and Green (I think it was not sure if it was him or not).

The PK unit (didn't catch who was on) looked good as well.

but its practice, most practices everyone looks good.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 17, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I probably won't get this in before Sombrero responds...BUT...

LTIR exemption ONLY counts IF you are at the cap limit. Since we are not, @700k under, any calls we make, regardless of IR status of injured players (they have to be on IR (10 games) for us to recoup money) will go against the cap.

Bringing Bourque up here now to take a roster spot would leave us @100k or so under the cap, and we would not be able to use LTIR for his salary. now, if we need to recall someone else after that, we would then be able to use LTIR exemption to get someone up here.

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 17, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

@yosh I agree that Alner needs to play in the AHL
If we have no cap issue why are we carrying 22 players not 23?
The vast majority of posts refer to moves that cant be done since we have cap issues
which is why i posed the question
If we have no cap problem great.lets get up players so we are fully manned for every game

Posted by: wendel | October 17, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Who's onboard with this idea?

Ler's crash Boswell's bogus 3PM MLB Playoffs chat and Rock The Red there.

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

just checked with the Caps. laing WOULD have to clear waivers.

Posted by: Tarik | October 17, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

At some point or another ALL goalie give up a bad goal or a softy. Marty B has had a couple of doozies already ths year.

Someone said the CAPS were working on there Power play at practice.....maybe it was the penatly killing that they were working on

The glass is half empty?, no its half full !

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | October 17, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Greg S,
The copy I have has roster all over the place: "(B) not spent more than 80 NHL games on NHL roster over the prior two (2) seasons or more than 40 NHL games on NHL roster in the immediately prior season;"

Wendel,
I think its because for every day we're under the cap, we accumulate more "wiggle room" for the rest of the season--saving room for late season acquisitions.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 17, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Coach B switching goalies is a good move. Early in the season let both guys get work. Beleive it or not it puts less pressure on the netminders this way.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | October 17, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Fedorov himself has said that he enjoys playing D because he gets a lot more playing time, and the puck is on his stick more often than if he were at center (paraphrasing). The safest option here is to bring up Bourque (if anyone).

I can't put my finger on what's wrong with the PK. I never thought I'd say this, but Semin looks like our best player on the PK thus far.

Posted by: FOHS Marc | October 17, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

OK then. I guess we have our answer. And considering that, I doubt that we'll see him up here this year.

And for the record, my version came from NHLPA. If there's another version of it, I'd be interested in finding out where it came from.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 17, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Just to be clear on this again. All players on the NHL roster count against the cap, active, injured, it doesn't matter. If a LTIR exemption is granted, you are allowed to exceed the cap for the amount the LTIR player's cap number puts you over. Once the LTIR player is fit for play, you must make enough moves to fit back under the salary cap.

Posted by: tallbear | October 17, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice that the Caps 17 goals are tied for best in the east -- even though the NYR have played 2 more games? The Blues have 18 out west. Now 13 against is lousy, but at least 7 came in that horrible first game. NJD 6 for and 6 against. I think 5 of those against came in one game against the NYR. The Devils are going to be tough, but the Caps should be able to win if they can get through the trap and past MB's pads. A goalie's chess match is not the game they want to play. Can't afford to get behind early, either.

Posted by: JIM | October 17, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Wendel,
There is no "Cap Issue", merely smart cap management. Having 22 players up instead of 23 does not hurt us for now, only helps us manage the cap. It is the reality of the current NHL and without the CBA in place for next year, we don't have fluff for going over. It is a new wrinkle for the Caps as we have been no where near the cap in past years.

Posted by: Mark | October 17, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

@jmu capsgirl
hey thanks for the answer nice to get a straight answer on here rather than have some dufus like steve go off like he knows everything

Posted by: wendel | October 17, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"FFS Enough | October 17, 2008 2:06 PM "

What he said....


The only exception is that bringing Bourque up would leave us slightly less than $100,000 under the cap only if he stayed for the duration of the season. Each day of the season we have Bourque on our roster costs us $3,405 in cap space. If he's on the roster for 10 days, its $34,050 less in Cap Space we have for the trade deadline.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Bradley is so impressive what guts and dedication to the team......

Posted by: wendel | October 17, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

@Mark,

All valid points, but what does the lack of CBA next year have to do with the Cap this year? You couldn't borrow against future years before, so the lack of a CBA next year shouldn't matter. Or, were you getting at something else?

@Tarik,

What's the deal with the chats? No longer happening, taking this week off, moving to Bi-weekly?

Posted by: old time hockey | October 17, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

@Jay - I think the answer to your question is that it doesn't matter if its a 22 or 23 man roster. The LTIR exemption only kicks in if once the team hits the salar cap upper limit.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

That's much better! I can't believe that there are 2 versions out there of the same contract.

Thanks, jmucapsgirl!

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, all, see Tarik answered the chat question above. Missed it first time through. Funny that he doesn't know why...

Posted by: old time hockey | October 17, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

@ Jim,

Yes, I noticed those stats. I also noticed the three teams in first place in the East could very well end up there in April.

Also, is there a team in the East that gets anyone less excited to play against then New jersey? I hope with there supposed new depth of offensive forwards, the game will resemble something other then a glorified chess match at center ice.
The attendance figures at the Devils home games seem to suggest there fan base is not particularly fond of 2-1 games

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Interesting photo of Crosby in the Pittsburgh paper.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08291/920678-61.stm

Posted by: Joe B | October 17, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

@ Riddler, The NYR opened it up against NJD. I hope the Caps can keep pressing to slice through the neutral zone -- it can be done, but not easily. Forechecking will be a key for the Caps.

Posted by: JIM | October 17, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

"Excellent photo of Crosby in the Pittsburgh paper."

FYP

Posted by: Section 117 | October 17, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

@mark thanks

Posted by: wendel | October 17, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Joe B- Classic...just missing the the binky

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Old Time Hockey,
My understanding of the CBA was that in years past, we would have been allowed to be over the cap for bonuses at the end of the current season, but that the following season that overage would lower the cap.

Posted by: Mark | October 17, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I jinxed Koz.

Posted by: Some girl | October 17, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Best quote for the Caps board:

"In the third period, I don't know if we stopped working or what it was, but it seemed like every loose puck, they were getting to," defenseman Brooks Orpik said. "It seemed like we were playing not to lose instead of continuing to go at them.

"We were making plays for two periods, then, after that, every time we got the puck, we gave it right back to them. ... I think it was more us than it was them. I don't know if we got outworked or if we're out of shape but for two periods, we played hard, and, in the third period, we just [threw] it away."

The Pens lack of respect for the Caps should prove to be great motivation. The Pens just have no respect for the Caps. They can't admit that they got beat.

Posted by: JIM | October 17, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Interesting post on a Flyers blog about our favorite cast-off defender:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=17339

Given the great notices John Carlson is getting for his play with the London Knights, this is looking like a better trade all the time.

Posted by: JB | October 17, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The caps powers to be GMGM or BB have stated several times this early season that JT is used to playing 50 to 55 games and they would keep to that format with BJ playing obviously in the 30 game range.
True, yes?

Posted by: billd | October 17, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Two of Olie's rebounds went right up the slot to open men. Part Olie, part defense. I'm never going to miss the rebounds that guy used to give up. Maybe he'll give a few to us.

Gotta bring the Q up for PK alone.

Brodeur was un-friggin-conscious last night.

Posted by: hotdog88gt | October 17, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

@ JB-Thanks for the link.

It appears that Steve has reverted back to the form that seemed to drive GMGM and the coaching staff nuts here. He played great in the playoffs last year though. I guess we have to consider ourselves forunate that Philly also noticed and forked over a #1 pick for his services along with a 3rd. Nice job by GMGM for not unloading him at last years trade deadline for a bag of pucks. Instead, he got a great performance from Stevem when we needed it in the playoffs AND was able to cash in on it taht performance with a seeming great trade return.

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"My understanding of the CBA was that in years past, we would have been allowed to be over the cap for bonuses at the end of the current season, but that the following season that overage would lower the cap.

Posted by: Mark | October 17, 2008 2:45 PM "

That is correct. We're only worried about it for this season because the CBA has not yet been re-upped for next season. Not that anybody expects another lockout to ensue but there will be some minor adjustments made over the current version

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the confirmation Cap Guru..... I mean Sombrero Guy. :)

Posted by: Mark | October 17, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm a dufus wendel? Any particular reason that you're throwing a jab my way?

Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

haha hey all I do is repeat what I read on nhlscap.com

Posted by: Sombero guy | October 17, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

BB's post practice Q&A is up on the Caps board. Nothing earth shattering but Tarik is front and center with the good questions as always.

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so, we're prohibited from "borrowing" against next year because there is no CBA, or we're worried that there might be some sanction if they don't allow it if/when they redo the CBA? If the former, that sucks. If the latter, then why not interpret the current CBA the way you want and deal with the consequences next year.

Posted by: old time hockey | October 17, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Since we've score 4 or more in 4 straight, I'd rather see a more defensive mided player like Laing or Alzner get the nod (no offense to Chris B.)

Sapper

http://sapper.blogtownhall.com/

Posted by: Sapper | October 17, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

* I like Fedorov on D. He plays VERY well there. He's faster than your average defenseman, slower than your average forward. No-brainer, IMO, if he doesn't object to playing D - and since he's succeeding like woah on the blue line, I'd think he won't mind so much.

* I am not worried about Theodore. He'll be fine, as long as our defensive line keeps up the good work and the pucks keep going in the other net, too.

Theo's won 2 of 3 starts.

Kolzig hasn't won a game yet, nor has Huet.

Posted by: i rock the red | October 17, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

@steve yes

Posted by: wendel | October 17, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

@Sombrero

I think I left a bit off my last explanation that may have confused some people, so I'll use an example.

Everything is calculated daily. So we'll divide every number used here by 186 (stated days in NHL season).

Currently, we are @700k under the cap.
700k/186: $3763+pucks
Each day we are under the cap, we accrue space for the end of the year. Say we stay under the cap by that amount for 100 of the 186 days. We will have $376,300 in cap space on day 100.

So what happens if we need to call someone up who puts us over our daily average? You compare our average with that player's salary. Take Alzner. He's a yearly cap hit of 1.65M. Our yearly average is @700k. So he puts us over our yearly average by 950k. Converting this to a daily average, we see how much his overage will eat into that 376,300 we had before.

So, 950k/186 = 5107 is his cost over our average. We could keep Alzner on the roster for @73 days (376,300/5107) before having to send him back down or making another move to free space.

To keep him for the whole remainder of the season, we have to accrue 13 more days of his cap overage before calling him up. 13*5107/3763 = 17 more days.

So, what does this tell us? Without LTIR exemptions, Alzner is in Hershey until the 118th day of the season. Anyone care to find out what game that would be?

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 17, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Upon listening to Bruce's breakdown of the game I have to admit that he's right and I was too harsh on Theodore. Both goals that looked bad were fluky.

Same goes for PK. Again, Boudreau's sense of reason and common sense prevails. It's not as bad as everyone thinks. Sometimes the bounces just don't go your way.

Posted by: ranndino | October 17, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Steve, what did you do to Wendel?

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

A couple more interviews on the Pens site from the morning practice that reflect on last night's game. I'm impressed with the Paul Bissonnette interview RE Matt Bradley. Give it a listen-

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=9875

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

@old time hockey
The bonus cushion doesn't exist because the NHLPA has the option of opting out of the CBA after this season. There was a date in September where the NHLPA could've said "we're not opting out" and the bonus cushion would've been in effect but they chose not to do so.

Posted by: tallbear | October 17, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Great link Riddler. I like that Bissonnette guy. When's he a FA?

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 17, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

My last question was rhetorical. Naturally I can go to cap site and find the info.

Which, by the way, he's RFA next year @500k. If Brash wants to retire, we should steal this kid.

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 17, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

FFS,
Glad you enjoyed the interview. He seems like the type of guy who could fill Brash's spot on the fourth line when he retires. The Caps love character and toughness which he seems to have. No idea how he skates or if he has any offensive side to his game.

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

@FFS - great stuff and great synopsis.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Okay, bradley is great at what he brings to this team and yes he will fight, but let's be honest he isnt that great at it (see last night or Lulic last year). Just cause this guy beat down brads doesn't mean he can replace the donald

Posted by: stevo | October 17, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

What's Ted's email?

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@FFS, But, let's we bring him up now (x days into the season). We immediately send him back down but he stays in town. Then, we bring him back up on game day. And then back down. We keep this up until Poti is healthy. They did this with some guys last year too.

Your point is valid, though. Call my point a side point/footnote: If we need 118 days of him not here, then every day with him here is one more day he needs to stay down at the back end, absent trade LTIR, etc.

Posted by: old time hockey | October 17, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Boo, I'm guessing that wendel called me a dufus because I understand that we can call a player up for a couple of games and not have cap issues & didn't explain to him the mechanics of the CBA after he posted the gem below:

"If we are so close to the cap that we cant bring up players gmgm needs to make a move
What is the point of having so much talent in Hershey if we cant make use of it due to fiscal mismanagement? The Caps need to hire a better salary cap expert

Posted by: wendel "

To which I replied

"Wendel, what are you talking about? There's plenty under the cap to call someone up for a game or three if needed.

Posted by: Steve R"


Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

It's alright, Steve R. I'm just less threatening to guys' knowledge base, being a girl and all. :-D
I'm pulling for a C. Bourque or J. Beags call up; let Feds play D since he's so good at it!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 17, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Last night confirmed the Caps are to be taken seriously.
That's great for the fans, now 2 teams should be showing up every game.

Make no mistake, Goalies both SUCK, yet the team manages to win.

Anyone watch Vancouver vs Calgary last Thursday and Saturday? Or how about Vancouver last night against Detroit ?

For now the Caps are alright, despite the failure of the team Manager and Owner.
Thanks BB !

Posted by: Chief | October 17, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Super and 94, let me know where you'll be hanging out at between periods on Sat and I'll swing by there with Mauree, give y'all a chance to meet him too.

Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"For now the Caps are alright, despite the failure of the team Manager and Owner.
Thanks BB !


Posted by: Chief"

Who are you and what did you do with Chief!?!

Posted by: Steve R | October 17, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

#stevie r hey u just proved that u r a dufus keep posting whatever u want but i still think u r an arrogant dufus
And that is what i'm talking about mister know it all dufus

Posted by: wendel | October 17, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Steve:
Geez, you sure are a trouble-maker!! ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

How sad is it that everytime BJ is announced to start there is a disclaimer...."It's not because of Jose Theodore's play; it was determined before the start of last night's game, I'm told."

As for Bradley this is why he is a "fan favorite", thanks for taking one for the team literally Bradley!

Posted by: Puddin_An_Semin | October 17, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

According to caps.com, Bourque was called up from Hershey.

http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=387213

Posted by: likeacane | October 17, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I went to my first Caps practice today!

Tarik - I saw you but was 100% it was until you were in the press box, I'll say hello next time. Thanks for keeping us informed!

Posted by: AM Capsfan | October 17, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

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