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Knuble Out For Series

Mike Knuble, the Flyers' hero in Game 4, is out for the remainder of the series with a torn hamstring. He has two goals and three assists (but nothing today). Read my story about his injury and what it might mean for Philly's lineup here.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  April 19, 2008; 4:32 PM ET
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well I guess all I would say is w00t for us.

Posted by: rh71 | April 19, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Form last thread:

I know everyone here is pissed off at Milbury and McGuire from last weekend...and rightfully so. But I'll also give them some credit, it did seem like they were looking to reconcile today after the things they said last week. They mentioned several times how much the fans at the Phone Booth were rocking and how much it meant for the Caps momentum. They also sort of joked about McGuire's estimation from last week.

Another thing, I know the ice was complete garbage today, but I think that Knuble would have injured himself regardless of how the ice. He sort of got caught in between keeping himself up and diving to block the shot, that'll catch your leg everytime. It's sort of like how when you're skiing and about to fall and you try to adjust yourself by standing yourself up but instead you just end up torquing your knee and tearing your ACL.

Posted by: nhcaps | April 19, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Boo! - I had to give it to a Flyers fan... it was like a souvenir for them... it was the perfect gift!!!!

Posted by: 828 | April 19, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

ok boys GF just arrived... I'm definatly not getting on for a while
Might be able to make it on tomorrow, if not maybe monday if not sorry guys its not cause im not trying to get on

Posted by: Jeff | April 19, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

LOL!! :-) You're a good sport, and a great fan. (BTW, wouldn't it be funny if we saw your sign on TV Monday night?!? :-D)

Well folks, I'm outta here ... ya'all have a good night and keep believin'!!

Posted by: Boo! | April 19, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

does kolzig get the start in the first game of the semis?

Posted by: capsfan08 | April 19, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Caps mistakes, especially the 2 Too Many Men penalties, were the Flyers "hero" in game 4 not Knuble. Hopefully, "out for series" means "out for season" and the Caps win in 7.

Posted by: DeadKings08 | April 19, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

"I can't fault Upshall," Stevens added. "He was just going to the net on a scoring chance. It looked like he tried to stop."

the TV guys got it right, they said, the key is the player has to make an "attempt to avoid" the goaltender. that's a stricter standard than "tried to stop."

and upshall failed.

may filthadelphia stew all summer over this.

Posted by: bruce gamble | April 20, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

URGENT - For out-of-town Caps fans, it appears Game 6 WILL NOT be on Versus, who is airing Boston-Montreal Game 7.

I have DirecTV but not the Center Ice package, so Comcast games were always blacked out.

What are my options? Since it's the playoffs, will the Comcast broadcast NOT be blacked out?

Or do I have to buy Center Ice for just one (or more likely, two) games?

Let me know, help! Thanks

Posted by: Donnie | April 20, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

As much as we complained about the officiating, apparently the NHL is trying to be like the NBA & know how to even things up.

Remember Coach Stevens, you got a freebie on us in game 4 with Kozlov doing the same thing.

I still don't understand why they don't enforce the cross checking in the back in front of the crease. I thought that was outlawed in the new gen NHL?

Posted by: Victor | April 20, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Donnie - If the games are on VS - usually, games are blacked out and shown on Comcast - either way... you will see the game on Comcast - that is the Caps Channel. So, you will be alright - no worries. Even if you got the Center ice package - the game would still be blacked out... local hockey rules... so, Comcast will show Caps hockey - unless on NBC... for some reason.

Posted by: 828 | April 20, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse

@ Boo OR JMU_Capsgirl

I think I was talking to one of you (Boo?) about Colorado and whether Forsberg was enough. Well, the Wild just got bounced. Theodore made it happen. Hot goalies as your backbone can do wonders. Colorado is looking good right now. But its only Round 1. Still, their vets, like Hejduk, Smyth, Forsberg and Sakic, are getting it done. Minnesota made one fatal error though. They did not hit Forsberg, and oft-injured Forsberg, or Ole Joe Sakic nearly enough. Those guys should have had the most physical attention and they didn;t.

Great game.

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Donnie - saw out of town... not sure what to do then..

Posted by: 828 | April 20, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

No offense to Danielle, but I think Knuble was their best offensive player this postseason so far. He's absolutely impossible to move from in front of the net, and we don't exactly have the best from-in-front-of-net-moving defensemen in the league. I think Huet will get an inch or two more of breathing room with Knuble out.

Posted by: Bret | April 20, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

oo7, that was me. A friend of mine is a die-hard Avs fan. I've already offered my congratulations.

I missed the game today, and had to watch the recording after the game ended. Stellar. Absolutely stellar.
I didn't know the final score when I watched it. I sat in the living room for 20 minutes before being able to hit play. As it was, I hit pause 5 times in the last 2.5 minutes. I'm ridiculously happy. Every team I root for--Caps, Mets, Spurs--won today and the Yankees lost.

I took off work for Game 6 early, praying that I needed to and figuring if I didn't, I'd have a day to mope and move on. However, my intelligence only went that far. I told the other manager if she worked for me Monday, I'd work for her on Tuesday. Oops. I'll guess I'll just TiVo again and threaten to fire anybody that tells me the score.

I'm just catching up on the news around the NHL after being forced to go to a strip club for a friend's birthday. The only plus-side was that they had ESPNNews on TV and I got to watch highlights of the Bruins-Habs game. I'm still on a high from the game. That's what made the rest of the night tolerable.

Let's go Caps!!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 20, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

What happens with Versus if you are an out of town in the Bruins area where you'll be getting local coverage...then what?

Posted by: nhcaps | April 20, 2008 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone see the punk briere say in a interview about the caps that "their whining certainly helped ". I now have more reason to hate that little b@$tard.

Posted by: Puck the pens | April 20, 2008 7:50 AM | Report abuse

There was a girl who had Boo on the back of her jersey sitting in 409. Some wannabee no doubt.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 20, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

LOL! :-) Ah yes ... there are many imitators but only one original!! ;-)

Regarding cross-checking in the crease, Ovie was knocked down a good 2-3 times yesterday (in the crease and not, cross-checked and otherwise). Each time he was no where near the puck. How those were not cross-checking or interference calls is beyond me. Someone please enlighten me ...

Yup, that was JMU girl. However, since you mentioned it, I was rootin' for the Wild in that series ... :-( At least Boston won yesterday. I actually prefer the Habs, but there is something fun about seeing a #8 team beat a #1 team (plus it will be better for us if we make it past the next round - I was not looking forward to playing the Habs for the Eastern conference title). Speaking of #8 vs. #1, I wonder who will win the Wings/Preds game today?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 20, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

@ boo

when Hatcher was hitting Ovechkin in front of the net, I was watching because I assumed it was a cross check, but he actually did a fantastic job keeping his hands together and just using pure strength. The guy is an ox, and is about 6'5" 245 lbs, despite NBC referring to him as 6'3" 230. Ovechkin is a Russian machine, but anybody is going to be pushed around by that.

Is anybody else scratching their head on the power play. When they are in the Umbrella, Mike Green is on the right side and Fedorov is up top. Why the hell would we put a right handed player on the right side of an umbrella where there is no chance of getting a one-timer (the point of the umbrella). When they switch power play set ups and put Fedorov and Green on the point, Feds is on the left side and Green on the right, which means that neither of them will be able to take one-timers. Shouldn't this be changed up? Thoughts?

Posted by: reekie | April 20, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Great game yesterday, please win these next two and shut the whining Flyers and their pathetic fans up for another few months!

From the previous thread about Brodeur and Avery....I am a Devils fan and I was a bit surprised about Brodeur. Like others have said, what seperates this game from others is, after playing 4-7 straight games and hating each other, everyone lines up to shake hands after it's over, great tradition. Avery is definitely a punk, but you need to address this on the ice, not in a post-series handshake. He could've just moved along the line, half-hearted handshake, not even look at him, and pull the Dino Cicarelli, "I can't believe I shook that guy's friggin hand."
Bad move for one of the all-time greats.

My wife is a huge Caps fan, and I am a big fan of Ovechkin. He is one of the most complete players I have witnessed in my time watching hockey...along the lines of what the Flyers thought they were getting with Lindros when they made that genius trade years ago. He has made the Caps a fun team to watch, and hopefully you guys can go deep into the playoffs! When you want a good laugh at Philly's expense, check out this website:

Good luck Caps!

Posted by: Philly=Titleless Town | April 20, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Drat. Damn Boston. I'm on a business trip tomorrow and I'll miss the game. I was hoping to pick it up in a sports bar, but now I guess not. Thanks Montreal. Way to finish.

Does anyone find it super ironic that the Flyers are irked about a bad interference call where the offending player was knocked into the goalie by Victor Kozlov given that it was a call against Kozlov that sent us off?

Posted by: old time hockey | April 20, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Too bad about Knuble. I can't say I'm sorry to see him off the ice against us, but I hate seeing it this way. I"m sure the Philly papers will spin it that this was our fault, and they need vengence.

THis will be a rough 2 games coming up.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 20, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

@Boo - yes, Ovie got quite a few of those so far, and I guess he was "diving" on a few of those too - if you want to beleive "beam me up Scottie" Upshall. While I am not a big fan of taking out other players by force (season ending injuries) Knuble did himself in.

Rather befitting of someone leading the charge "lets get that @!#%* ing Green" - I think it was game 3. As it turned out, they went after Mo and Green came to the rescue, but got nailed for slashing and then afterwards - the fighting major.

Philly is just a dirty team, plain and simple. Always have been. The challenge is for the Caps to match them toe to toe like they did yesterday. Make them eat their own cooking.

Caps in 7.

Posted by: dogdaze | April 20, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Although OV did not post a point yesterday, but he was vital in the scoring as he was camped in front of the goal on the last 2 scores taking up space, occupying defensemen and screening the goalie. On Fed goals he totally screened the defense from getting to Feds and stopping the shot. Just goes to show, you do not have to be in the scoring summary to help your team win.

Posted by: Rich C | April 20, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Just won $200 on a scratch off,looks like i'm going to da game!!!!!!

Posted by: LL | April 20, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

@ Rich C

I completely agree with you... which is why I didn't care much for Boswell's column this morning. I think OV has been instrumental in the little things he's done this series. We would all like to see him score more, but don't think he should be viewed as a failure if he doesn't.

Posted by: longtimecapsfan | April 20, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse has all these hardcore t-shirts, why don't we have cool T's??

Posted by: Fat Jack | April 20, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Any T-shirt printing company owner's out there?

Posted by: WILLY | April 20, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

This will really hurt their power play more than anything.

And one more thing, can we PLEASE stop saying crap about flyer fans? We're acting like we are better than them which is pretty childish IMO

Posted by: GoUnited | April 20, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Go UNITED.........what you talking about Willis???

Posted by: ll | April 20, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Tim Russert just ended NBC's Meet the Press with a shout-out to the Caps. "Lets go Caps"

Posted by: reekie | April 20, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

How cool that Tim Russert held up a Caps jersey at the end of "Meet the Press" and said "Go Caps - beat the Flyers!" One of the very few things I can agree with a Buffalo fan about...

Posted by: rvan64 | April 20, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

GO United.....

Apparantly you have never been to a stadium that included Flyers and/or Eagles fans. If you want the full effect, take a walk around the stadiums in Philadelphia on game day with the opposing teams gear on. Then, if you have not been beaten to a bloody pulp by a gang of thugs, you may have a different feeling about DC fans.

Posted by: GO CAPS!! | April 20, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I'd love if we could make this a two player swing... is Clark still skating lightly after practices or has his condition improved??

And I think we'd all agree that the Bruins are worse than the Caps and the Habs are better than the Flyers.

If Boston can force a game 7, then dammit so can we!

Posted by: #17 | April 20, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Yesterday's game is on the nhl channel at noon.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 20, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

There's been a lot of talk about the inexperience of the Caps in playoffs. I certainly agree that it has been a factor, and that they are getting better as they gain experience.

But I'd like to see some numbers beyond "only 6 Caps have playoff experience". How can we get the total playoff games for the Caps players at the start of the series, and the same number for the Flyers, excluding those who haven't played (i.e., Olie [sigh]).

I also wonder what percentage of the Cpas total playoff games is owned by Feds. :)

Posted by: ChrisD | April 20, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The Caps' website writeup about Game 5 says Ovechkin had 3 hits.

Anyone know if there's some arcane rule about what gets credited as a hit? Ovie obviously had at least 8 in the first period alone!

Posted by: Joe B | April 20, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Because Montreal couldn't put away crappy Boston last night, the Caps got bumped from Vs., which means I can't watch it down here in N.C. This is disappointing. The radio is just not the same. I have to see it. I guess I'll be frantically calling sports bars around this area to see if they get the TSN feed.

Posted by: Colin | April 20, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse


Theodore playing like a madman changes EVERYTHING. The next series will be very very interesting. Colorado is looking like the Avs of old which doesn't bode well for Detroit, Calgary and San Jose especially. Colorado was a thorn in all their sides until recent years when the team had lost its luster. The luster is back. I was wrong. I didn't think Forsberg would be enough, given the goaltending and the PP issues. (I wish we got Stastny). But with Theo playing like a man possessed, the rest of the team has found their stride. Woe to the west if the Avs arent stopped.

I can't wait for Monday. I saw my wife's family from Philly yesterday. So sweet.

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Watching the coverage of yesterday's game (between the first and second period); a couple of interesting notes:

1) They debated about whether or not Ovie should have been given a penalty shot - wouldn't that have been interesting?!? I actually could have seen that call going either way, but with Philly getting a penalty shot in the last game for something very similiar, Ovie should have gotten one, too.

2) Why on earth would someone covering a playoff game not know how to pronounce all of the players' names (especially the more notable players)?

3) They are actually giving the Caps a lot of love, but I did not see the opening coverage, and I have not seen Milbury.

On a different subject, does anyone else find it ironic that just as Huet's post-season game is going through the roof, Price's game is tanking?

Posted by: Boo! | April 20, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

new thread

Posted by: new thread | April 20, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

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