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Mike Knuble ready to 'move on'

Capitals right wing Mike Knuble almost always has something insightful to say after a game, win or lose, and Sunday night was no exception. He said the best way to handle the defeat would be to understand it just wasn't Washington's day and to move on. (And later Sunday night, the Caps would have already moved on -- to becoming the top seed in the Eastern Conference.)

The Flames came to Verizon Center on the heels of a 5-0 loss to Boston on Saturday, following which GM Darryl Sutter challenged his players to give a better effort the rest of the way as Calgary tries desperately to reach the eighth and final spot in the Western Conference playoff race.

Here's Knuble afterward in the locker room:

By Gene Wang  |  March 29, 2010; 8:58 AM ET
 
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Smart man, every team has a game like that every once and a while (and actually the Caps less often than most)

Posted by: mikebrady1 | March 29, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

let's bounce right back and stick it to ottawa tomorrow night!

Posted by: hockeypunk | March 29, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

The more I know about Knuble, the more I like him. He's got a great attitude and has been a terrific asset for the team. Let's move on, and GO CAPS and beat Ottawa!

Posted by: dccitizen1 | March 29, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness GMGM got him. He has been a calming voice all season, and will help immensely in the playoffs.

Posted by: ken_berlin | March 29, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness GMGM got him. He has been a calming voice all season, and will help immensely in the playoffs.

Posted by: ken_berlin | March 29, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

As long as no one got hurt..who cares?

I want the boys to play well, but I also dont want them grinding it out with big hits and taking chances to get hurt.

Look at San Jose with Thorton out..we cant afford that.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 29, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Going back to the previous thread for a second... A couple of years ago I went with the Fan Club to that dump, Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh. One thing that I noticed, and liked, was the pens Stanley Cup Banner from the Lemieux era. They had won the division, the conference, and the Cup. The 3 banners are hung together with the 2 smaller division and conference banners on either side of a larger Stanley Cup banner. The word CHAMPIONS is stretched across all 3. Other than that, I hated everything about being in Pitsburgh.

Posted by: griz0615 | March 29, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

OK, since BB is not shy about giving honest appraisals of players performances (and I do not have a problem with that), lets do the same for BB.

BB's grades
'07/08 Regular season: A Playoffs C
'08/09 Regular season: A- Playoffs C-
'09/10 Regular season: A Playoffs ?
(This assumes we win the President's Trophy this year. If not BB gets a B- for late season collapse.)

So, its up to BB to figure how to win in the playoffs. This will be the second year in a row that the Caps have not played an important game (other than for pride) in several months. Will they be tight in the playofs? Probably. Will other teams try play low scoring games against the Caps? Definately (only Pens and maybe Sens can run and gun with Caps).

We need to annihilate our first round opponant, and get on a 6 or 7 game winning streak in the playoffs. That is our style. We don't do all that well in tight games.

I don't have the answers. Its up to BB to figure how to keep the boys loose. BB needs to be better than a medicore playoff coach.

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | March 29, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Caps are 17-8-11 in one goal games.

Overtimes have not been friendly, but I wouldnt say we dont play well in tight games...we just havent played well 4-4 and shootouts.

No 4-4 and shootouts in the playoffs.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 29, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

With 8 games left, and laying an egg in the 1st period.. i was ashamed of our "fans" that booed" last night.

The boo-birds in 2005 when we went on 8 and 10 game losing streaks.. sure. But on a night we clinched the division lead. Really?

5 games out before the playoffs you don't want to see any slacking.. but right now and next few games.. so what? Better to get it out of the system now and be healthy and relaxed during the playoffs.

Part of me loves all the "new" fans. Part of me is really irked by the bandwagon mentality.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | March 29, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Extra! extra! Read all about it!!
"Mike Knuble ready to 'move on'".
Knuble demands trade after lacklaster effort by teammates. "They tried to make me take an unknown substance before the third so I need to leave" Knuble told a reporter. A shocked Boudreau says "Just give me your playbook and go."

Posted by: coolcraig | March 29, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Caps are 17-8-11 in one goal games

Posted by: SA-Town

17-8-11 = 17-19

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | March 29, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Knuble has been a great addition to our Caps for many reasons.

Sitting at Verizon yesterday you could just tell that it was going to be one of those days. Goals one, two, and four, were complete luck, nothing more, but luck is part of the game.

Although I won't boo the Caps I can understand the fans that dropped a few hundred for "the Caps experience" being upset. It does cost a lot of money to go to Verizon for a couple of regular season games. Some fans still had a good time. Every once in a while you could hear this squeakly little voice pop up from a kid no more than five yelling "Go Ovi." That's priceless.

I'm a season ticket holder up in the 400 section and even though I pay a good chunk of money for 41 games it is an unbelievable bargain from the gate price. The reason I bring that up is because there are NEW season ticket holders that rag on the team and it gets annoying. Even when they are winning, I swear, even when they are winning they are yelling stupid things at players, like they can be heard from the upper deck. Anyhow, this is not the NFL or College football where a 3 game losing streak during the regular season costs you your season, in an 82 game schedule, games such as yesterday are bound to happen.


As Ray on the Trailor Park Boys says, it the way she goes boys, it the way she goes.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Wow thats an original excuse BB. Once again he hides the fact that he doesn't make his guys play defense so he just blames it on "lack of effort/energy". BB needs to go if we don't win the cup this year. Flame away..

Posted by: zackattack4492 | March 28, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

that part is true. He pays lip svc to defense. And frankly he doesn't really come down hard on his team for defensive lapses as long as the offense bails us out. Even though the Caps were especially flat in that 1st pd, they do have a tendency to not play hard for 60 mins anyway. Like I've said before, you can pretty much count on this team to play well for 2 periods only. Usually they're good enough to come back in a game because of their talent. But when the goaltending doesn't bail us out then the hole is too deep to climb out of.

Lets just hope this was a nice wakeup call prior to the playoffs. The loss itself is no big deal but the defensive play and yet another slow start to a game should be a concern.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Hockeypuck1- I think what you are missing is that, in the playoffs there are no 4-4 or shootouts...so the 17-19 record is a bit misleading...considering we only have 8 regulation one goal losses, and wont have to worry about our shootout/4-4 inefectiveness...

Posted by: OVIHtrick8 | March 29, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

hockeypuck1: Wow, nice stat. How many games did the Caps win by 2 or more? Go ahead and call ALL of the OTL's, losses. The Caps still have the best record in the league at 49-26.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I think what you are missing is that, in the playoffs there are no 4-4 or shootouts...so the 17-19 record is a bit misleading...considering we only have 8 regulation one goal losses, and wont have to worry about our shootout/4-4 inefectiveness...

Posted by: OVIHtrick8

Good point, you are right.


Posted by: hockeypuck1 | March 29, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I don't think most of that booing was for the team, every team has a clunker period and that hopefully was our last one. I for one was still upset with the way that period was officiated and would have been booing Marouelli and Kimmerly more than the Caps after that frame. Sarich should have been sent to the showers and the closing the hand on the puck was a dicey call, especially seeing more and more players do that when they are down on the ice with puck at their hands.

That being said, this team needs to get back to hopping on teams early and dictating the way the game is played instead of always having to hit the light switch after being down 2 goals like recently.

GO CAPS, OUR YEAR ; OUR TIME ; OUR CUP!!!!

Posted by: BBDwrestling | March 29, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

OK, both goals 1 and 2 were shot at the net from extreme angles that literally found their way into the net. They weren't great shots, or the result of bad defense. Goal 4 popped up over Varly and Poti was there playing body on Bourque crashing the net. I just don't see the defensive breakdowns in yesterday's game. The goals were flat out lucky. Those of you trashing the Caps would also be trashing them if the game would have gone the exact opposite. If the game played out with the Caps getting the same exact lucky goals and being outshot 20-3 in the 3rd the self-loathing Caps fans would be saying how LUCKY the Caps were in getting the win because they were outplayed by Calgary.

When the Caps win the Cup, and they will win a couple before this group of players breaks up, the same ones that always trash the team will be trashing them after they hoist the Cup. Sometime during the last couple of threads the foundation was already being put into place against anyone from the East that wins this year. Someone eluded to the team from the West would have a tougher road thus maybe giving the East Champ an advantage.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

they're gonna be about .500 the remainder of the season... it's just not human nature to get fired up for basically meaningless games before the real season starts in a couple weeks

Posted by: joek443 | March 29, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Guess they were due for a stinker- maybe that will do them some good - make them realize they haven't won anything yet and that the target is on their backs. Every team is going to play at their best vs the Caps.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 29, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

OK, both goals 1 and 2 were shot at the net from extreme angles that literally found their way into the net. They weren't great shots, or the result of bad defense. Goal 4 popped up over Varly and Poti was there playing body on Bourque crashing the net. I just don't see the defensive breakdowns in yesterday's game. The goals were flat out lucky. Those of you trashing the Caps would also be trashing them if the game would have gone the exact opposite. If the game played out with the Caps getting the same exact lucky goals and being outshot 20-3 in the 3rd the self-loathing Caps fans would be saying how LUCKY the Caps were in getting the win because they were outplayed by Calgary.
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Thats a very narrow way to look at those goals.

Fehr was slow to engage the fwd on the 1st goal after a nice step-up by Carlson on the blueline. Had Fehr been more aggressive in tying up the forward, he wouldnt have had time to get that shot off.

goal#2 Corvo gave the forward too much room in the crease which allowed the screened shot to go thru and our goalie gives up the awkward angle rebound. Poti came in to help out but it was too late. Corvo was very shy and passive about boxing out the forward. That set up the entire play.

goal#3 Corvo gives the forward too much room on the wing and then makes a feeble attempt to interfere with the pass.

goal#4 - Green and Schultz are both playing way too high and away from the forward in the crease who is setting up yet another screen. Even if our goalie had made the save, the forward in the crease wouldve had an easy time with any rebound. Our D for the most part treats the crease area like they're allergic to it.

Goal#5, bang bang play. Can't pin that on Poti.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Guess they were due for a stinker- maybe that will do them some good - make them realize they haven't won anything yet and that the target is on their backs. Every team is going to play at their best vs the Caps.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 29, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse


here's the problem I had with the 1st pd. Boudreau has once again shown an inability to get his team to play with more urgency to start a game that everyone and their uncle knew the Flames would come out fired up for. For one, they had just been waxed by the Bruins. Two, they're fighting to make the playoffs.

This isn't the first time this season that the Caps were caught with their pants down in the 1st pd of a game when there were clear indications and advance warning that the other team would definitely come out with a lot of jump and desire.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I was watching the college hockey tournament this weekend and RIT gave a better effort on both games they played then the Caps did yesterday.

In case you're wondering, RIT is the Rochester Institute of Technology. They're in Division 1 Atlantic Hockey Conference.

Posted by: jwash4472 | March 29, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

and again, the final score, who cares really. Every team loses games and on any given night the worst NHL team can beat the best one.

I just think that the fact we give up too much room in our crease area is a recurring theme for concern because there's more of that garbage type goal scored in the playoffs. And if our players don't have any crease awareness, they're going to make it unnecessarily harder on our goalies.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I'd agree with those assessments on each of those goals. If you give almost any top-9 forward in the NHL time and space in the slot, they'll invariably cause trouble. It seems like Corvo is slow to engage, or maybe he's still hurt - but the burst isn't there.

And yes Carlson made a nice play stepping up - exactly as he's taught to do - but Fehr absolutely has to tie up that winger; he's got to get back. Fehr and Chimera haven't been great in their own end when they're out there together, for whatever reason. Still time, though.

Posted by: govtimbo | March 29, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

If your the coach, whats your top 3 reasons why yesterdays game is a must win on the chalk board before the game?

Posted by: SA-Town | March 29, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

If your the coach, whats your top 3 reasons why yesterdays game is a must win on the chalk board before the game?

Posted by: SA-Town | March 29, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Look, whether we go .500 the rest of the way or not isn't a huge concern. As a coach, I'd worry more about making sure my team is playing with an acceptable level of urgency. It doesn't have to be like a game 7. But the team should've been prepared for a hungry Flames team to come out hard in the 1st. And when you're playing at home, there's no excuse for having that flat level of effort. It happens often enough (but gets glossed over in a win) that the Caps aren't always ready at the drop of the puck. We end up relying on our goalie to bail us out on a slow start and then rely on our talent to make up for it later in the game. Like in the Penguins game. Same flat effort in the 1st pd and then we woke up.

Can't afford that trend in a playoff series. Thats how you get down.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

And yes Carlson made a nice play stepping up - exactly as he's taught to do - but Fehr absolutely has to tie up that winger; he's got to get back. Fehr and Chimera haven't been great in their own end when they're out there together, for whatever reason. Still time, though.

Posted by: govtimbo | March 29, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I hope Carlson doesn't lose faith in his forwards covering for him when he steps up like that. Its so rare to even see a Caps dman step up at the blueline.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

hockeypuck - if you're criticizing BB, can I remind you what the Caps were before he arrived? Dead last, a building devoid of human energy, and an agent starting to shop the franchise player - to one of the best, and certainly most exciting, teams in the league.

Before we torch the Coach - who pretty much took us from worst to first, almost overnight - let's not let the general manager go completely unscathed, once again.

Personnel weaknesses get exposed by better teams - ie., the playoffs - and GMGM has known for three straight offseasons that we have some glaring weaknesses, to go with our obvious strengths. And the answer this year is....Joe Corvo?!?

Posted by: govtimbo | March 29, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Fehr and Chimera haven't been great in their own end when they're out there together, for whatever reason. Still time, though.
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neither Fehr nor Chimera have ever been known for their defensive play. Fehr doesn't skate well enough and Chimera doesn't have defensive instincts. With his speed and skating ability there's no reason for Chimera to not do a better job helping out his D. On that 1st goal he actually kept up with the forward before releasing him to Fehr's side. Fehr kinda dropped the ball on it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Sorry goals 1, 2, and 5 were lucky goals. The first 2 were severe angle prayers sent towards the net that bounced in off Theo. Bourque's was a goofy goal too.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Totally, cstanton1! It is awesome when Carlson steps up like that, I really hope he doesn't lose faith in his forwards not back-checking; tough to do when your reward is a "minus".

I wish more of our D would step up like he does - but Carlson makes it look a lot easier than it is, that kid's got wheels. I'm happy with Erskine playing back ;)

Posted by: govtimbo | March 29, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Personnel weaknesses get exposed by better teams - ie., the playoffs - and GMGM has known for three straight offseasons that we have some glaring weaknesses, to go with our obvious strengths. And the answer this year is....Joe Corvo?!?

Posted by: govtimbo | March 29, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse


and on a very strong defensive team, you can get away with a Corvo type. He can actually be an asset. But on this team, his skillset isn't what we needed. And he's paired with Poti who is on again, off again. Not the world's strongest defensive tandem.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Mike Obi Wan Knuble.

Posted by: ljo211 | March 29, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

jwash4472: What the heck does RIT's performance have anything to do with the Caps? RIT was/is in a one and done tourney. The Caps were playing games 74 and 75 of their regular season in which they have a huge lead in their conference. Apples and oranges. My neighbors 8 year old daughter's LAX team played with more heart than the Caps. As we say when a road team's goal is announced at Verizon...WHO CARES?

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

lol fanohock1... I think that says it best:

"Who Cares?".

Yet, apparently, we get the boo-birds out there crying for a meaningless game. I mean, really?

If there are games in a season where you can rest up, try new things, be carefree...the next 3 are them. And the fans that don't know this. Well.. let's just say it is no surprise that DC is the team doing it.

Hey, at least we are not like Philly fans, booing the home team with a winning record..... sigh

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | March 29, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and i've never seen the "refs" get boo'd at intermission. After a lousy call, yes. After a bad non-call, yes. But that wasn't what happened on Sunday.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | March 29, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

This is a pretty good story from TSN.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=315609

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Sorry goals 1, 2, and 5 were lucky goals. The first 2 were severe angle prayers sent towards the net that bounced in off Theo. Bourque's was a goofy goal too.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

lol, i guess you saying it makes it so. None of the specifics I mentioned are obviously valid. I mean, severe angle or not, there is nothing any Caps player did that contributed to the play getting set up in the first place.

its amazing how "black and white" hockey can be in some people's eyes.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

Come on, I know you don't like Corvo but that 3rd goal was Steckel's fault for poor coverage due to either him being too tired or too slow to get in proper position.

Corvo forced the winger to the boards where he made a cross ice path. It is the covering defender's (Steckel) responsibility to be in position to not let that pass go through.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 29, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love Old Spice.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | March 29, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

btw Fanock, did you happen to see the shots on goal - 13 to 4 in the 1st period?

you think perhaps that could be an indication that we weren't ready to play the game from the drop of the puck (ala the Penguins game recently?)

The Flames outplayed us dramatically in the 1st and our goalie was left out to dry and he couldn't hold us in the game. Thats why we lost. It had nothing to do with "luck" as you put it. Thats just a classic blinders view.

This team is used to getting by with a less than 60min effort and solid goaltending. When the goaltending doesn't bail em out, it makes it that much harder to come back in the game

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I think Corvo also was on the grassy knoll in Dallas on 11/22/63, wasn't he??

Posted by: joek443 | March 29, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

cstanton1: Everything you say is supposed to be accepted as fact. Get over yourself. Today the argument is with me for now, later on today it will be someone else, and tomorrow someone else. Read my text, goals 1 and 2 were LUCKY goals.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

Come on, I know you don't like Corvo but that 3rd goal was Steckel's fault for poor coverage due to either him being too tired or too slow to get in proper position.

Corvo forced the winger to the boards where he made a cross ice path. It is the covering defender's (Steckel) responsibility to be in position to not let that pass go through.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 29, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I actually wrote another reply to that which was "held by Tarik" for approval or whatever. I stated my case for the 3rd goal more accurately. And its closer to what you said. I don't really hold Corvo responsible per se for that goal. What I said in my unpublished reply that I didn't feel like restating because I felt lazy was:

It was a quick transition coming back the other way, Corvo came across ice to help out, perhaps he could've done a better job of impeding the progress of the forward on the wing. But overall, that was a tough play to defend (even from Steckel's perspective). I guess my general point about Corvo with the way he defends against an onrushing forward is he generally will not close the gap on a player. He just backpedals and sticks his stick out. Very low % play.

but yeah, i should have restated my perspective on that goal better than I did, my apologies.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I did see the shots, first hand, in person, as usual. Not one save of the 9 in the 1st had to be spectacular and goals 1 and 2 were flukey goals. On the other hand Kip made some unbelievable saves from the second period on. The Caps outshot the Flames 30-9 from that point. If even 1 of those flukey goals don't go in it is a completely different game. I'm not going to argue with you anymore. I'm absolutely shocked that you are a Caps fan because you RARELY say anything good about this team. Win or lose, you complain.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Read my text, goals 1 and 2 were LUCKY goals.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

based on what? your narrow interpretation of how a goal gets scored with absolutely no consideration to how a play develops? its asinine.

Your entire theory on what made those lucky goals is flawed to begin with. You think just because it wasn't a "great shot" that automatically makes it a lucky goal. You ignore any other plays that a Caps player could have made to eliminate that odd-angle shot. Fehr was slow to engage the forward, thats a fact. Look at the replay. He was moving in slow motion.

The screen was set up behind Corvo on the other goal. So our goalie didn't get a clear view on the shot. Had Corvo done any kind of a box-out job on the forward, our goalie has a better chance of handling that shot instead of coughing up a rebound.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@ljo211 I love it, that will be my new nickname for Knuble.

Obi Wan Knuble....he doesn't use the force he IS the force in front of the net.

Posted by: malujoker | March 29, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Fanock, apparently you think that simply being an utter apologist is what makes you such a great Caps fan.

Thats the basis of all your opinions on the Caps, and who should or shouldn't be a fan. You think like an immature child in that regard.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I think Corvo also was on the grassy knoll in Dallas on 11/22/63, wasn't he??

Posted by: joek443 | March 29, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

no he was probably just the FBI agent who dropped the ball on adequately defending the president.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

From my calculations yesterday's 2 goal loss was the second 2 goal or more loss this calendar year. We have lost some games this year but not by much. Except for Dec. when we lost 4 games by 3 points, we've lost by 2 or more only 3 other times. We haven't lost by over 3 goals yet this season. I doubt anyone else can say that. Big part of the reason why we have a league-leading +78 goal differential. Makes some opportunities for Ovi. Don't let Crosby win the Hart.

Posted by: rjma1 | March 29, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Just don't get hurt - that's all that matters and find a playoff goalie!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 29, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

no he was probably just the FBI agent who dropped the ball on adequately defending the president.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 29, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure that job belongs to the secret service

Posted by: joek443 | March 29, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

@ fano...
Was just reading through and catching up and saw...

As Ray on the Trailor Park Boys says, it the way she goes boys, it the way she goes.

Nice quote from a hysterical show!

Posted by: DBnMD | March 29, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious from the fans here that the recent winning streak of 3 seasons still hasn't produced enough hockey wisdom. In Toronto or Boston the fans would recognize what they have and appreciate it, but here in DC there is constant bickering over not having X or Y or ONLY improving each of the past two years in measured steps.

For the uninitiated, this club was EXPANSION level after Ovechkin was drafted.

He and Kolzig were the only reasons to go and watch the Capitals.

Two years ago the team made a remarkable run after the trade deadline to win the division and make the playoffs. They lost in 7 games after overcoming a 3-1 deficit and winning Game 6 on the road in Philly.

So, that's a failure?

Last year the team improved and won the division straight away without having to put on a finishing kick. After winning their first round series against the Rangers they then lost to the eventual Cup champions in again 7 games. Again, they won a Game 6 elimination on the road, this time in Pittsburgh.

So, there was no improvement from 2008?

This year the Caps have lead the Conference or been near the top tape to tape and are finishing 30 points ahead in their division.

As they head into the 2010 playoffs with a likely finish of 115-118 points, are we again looking at a team that has not improved?

If the Redskins had gone 9-7 and made the playoffs with a late season rush in 2008 and lost in the first round of the playoffs in OT, and then followed that up with 11-5 and a second round loss the next year, you guys would be ECSTATIC.

The Caps run this season is akin to a 14-2 regular season in the NFL. Again, you guys would be ECSTATIC.

Instead you are on pins and needles that the team lost to Calgary in an otherwise meaningless game without 3 regulars in uniform.

Amazing.

Posted by: leopard09 | March 29, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

DBnMD: Directv has it on "the 101" every Thursday at 10pm. Liquor Day will be available for videostream via Netflix starting Thursday. Great mindless humor in the Mockumentary theme.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

@leopard09

Im sure 50% of the upset people on here are fans of other teams trying to stir the pot.

I have been a season ticket holder since the 40's.

I cant wait for the playoffs...dont REALLY care what happens the rest of the way but would like to see the level of play stay high...as long as no one gets hurt...

Im ready to rock...I think 90% of fans feel the same way.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 29, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah( I believe that I have seen all the episodes but not the movie finale....will definitely check that out. Thanks for the heads up. I will be laughing all day now just thinking about snipets from that show.

Posted by: DBnMD | March 29, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION CAPS FANS:

Those of you that boo at hockey games when the team is doing well are nothing but spoiled bandwagoners that don't know anything about Caps history since 2008. You are no better than Penguin fans, who are the lowest forms of human life out there. Do you really want to be like that? I didn't think so. Get some self-respect and support the team. Don't be like scumbags.

Sincerely,

The Rest of the Universe

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | March 29, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I was at the game yesterday, as per usual, in 426. Have to say, the one thing that pissed me off more than all of the leaners in front of me where the a-holes whooping Corvo. There might have been 10 or so of them that I could hear, I reallyyyy home that crap doesn't take off.

Posted by: Steve_R | March 29, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

"5 games out before the playoffs you don't want to see any slacking.. but right now and next few games.. so what? Better to get it out of the system now and be healthy and relaxed during the playoffs.

Part of me loves all the "new" fans. Part of me is really irked by the bandwagon mentality."

I agree Freakinout.. I love all the new fans, and lets face it, most did not go very far.. they were always there, they just didnt spend the money like we did to go see a losing team day in and day out. I made the comment to my wife last week as we sat in 106, there were two (obviously new) young girl fans who sat behind us. They screamed the most annoying things during the game. It would have been different if they REALLY KNEW what the game is about. The last 4 or 5 games I have been to, I have had some newbies screaming some less than flattering things as a hockey fan is concerend. But hey, can't complain too much. I just want us to sell out the arena and put hockey truly on the map in DC!

Posted by: todderdj | March 29, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Randy, the people saying that our PP sucks when scoring 1 of 4 kind of tweak me as well.

Posted by: Steve_R | March 29, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

@ Steve_R

that crap has been around since the late 80's when Larry Murphy played for the Caps...

Posted by: joek443 | March 29, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Knuble for head coach after Boudreau retires.

Posted by: sandyflee | March 29, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

He and Kolzig were the only reasons to go and watch the Capitals.

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Kolzig had gone way downhill way before Ovi arrived in the NHL. (Personally, I was never a huge fan of Olie, but that's just me)

Posted by: richmondphil | March 29, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Yes Joe, I know. I'm just saying that I find it annoying as he@@ and hope that I don't have to hear Corvo getting the same.

Posted by: Steve_R | March 29, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

"...The reason I bring that up is because there are NEW season ticket holders that rag on the team and it gets annoying. Even when they are winning, I swear, even when they are winning they are yelling stupid things at players, like they can be heard from the upper deck. Anyhow, this is not the NFL or College football where a 3 game losing streak during the regular season costs you your season, in an 82 game schedule, games such as yesterday are bound to happen."

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 29, 2010 10:03 AM

Sounds like you are describing a Pens fan. I'd rather take a bandwagon caps fan over a pens fan any day and that's saying a lot.

Penguins filed for Bankruptcy, had less than a 1000 season ticket holders in 99 or so, threw the rest of the season to get the draft pick for Mario, received a handful of number 1 and number 2 picks in the draft the last five years... How did they get those picks again?

Diehard fans? Where were the fans when they had less than 1000 season tickets sold? When they filed for bankruptcy? When Mario announced they had to look for a new location for the team two years in a row?

Pens fans need to look at themselves first before dare calling anyone a bandwagon fan. Funny thing is they all still act like annoying, non-hockey educated fans who are there just to root for their team without a clue about the sport.

Posted by: MNMNT | March 29, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I cant wait for the playoffs...dont REALLY care what happens the rest of the way but would like to see the level of play stay high...as long as no one gets hurt...

Im ready to rock...I think 90% of fans feel the same way.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 29, 2010 12:18 PM |

I agree, but you have to keep in mind, that a lot of the time, the teams which are the hottest going into the playoffs..stay hot. Of course, this works the other way (Blues last year, Us vs the Flyers 2 years ago), but I'd like to see solid play going into the playoffs.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 29, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Any Pens fans who try to make a bandwagon joke, I just shrug aside.

I don't think any competent Pens/hockey fan would dare even go into that territory..it just opens them up as an easy target.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 29, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the whoop noise is as loud as it used to be... you used to be able to hear that on TV but you can only hear that now when they play the pens and Gonchar touches the puck

Posted by: joek443 | March 29, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I think the funniest thing is when the Pens score and the fans act as if they won the game. In the first period. It's just so much more fun to heckle at the end after seeing the theatrics.

Posted by: MNMNT | March 29, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Can't get any more ridiculous than whooping one of your own players... at least wait until after he is chased out of town!

Having said that, I still don't like Corvo paired with Poti, Corvo on PK regardless of who he is paired with, or Corvo getting second pair minutes. Since BB is so keen on pairing left and right sticks on his D, and Poti is not going to lose his spot on the second pair, I wouldn't mind seeing Carlson promoted before the reg season is over. With Corvo losing a few minutes of ice time and dropping to the third pair along with Mo, it would give us a bit better balance.

Posted by: igor_k17 | March 29, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

What's really funny MNMNT is to read these retard posts by you and Randy telling us, your own fans not to be like Pens fans. Well, since you have to tell us, we obviously ARE, get a clue? MNMNT, so how much ice-time do you have, how many games did you play? Being the expert and super-fan of all, didn't realize there was a competition about not being a bandwagon fan but must have been a fan for 20 years? How many would there be? I'll root for the Caps when the win and I'll boo when they don't, I am a true and proud bandwagon Caps fan since last year or so. People like you two SUCK!

Posted by: Crowns | March 29, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Guys, guys, guys (and ladies)...

Let's keep things in perspective: One of the reasons many of us can't stand Yankee fans or Habs fans is what I call their presumption of an entitlement to victory:

Every time the Habs, Yankees, or any sports team from New York City wins a championship, their respective fans get absolutely insufferable, as they start blathering about how thiers is the "Greatest Team That Ever Was Or Ever Will Be, blah, blah, blah."

And you don't begin to hear the end of it for the next five years after that!

They expect their teams to win all the time, as though it were Almighty God's will that it should be so.

But let one of those teams lay an egg--ever--(nevermind if it's an isolated incident in an otherwise dominant season), and suddenly their heroes have morphed overnight into bums.

Don't believe me? Check out the New York Post when the Yanks come to the end of a win streak: if you take the tone of such an article by itself, you would think that the Bronx Bombers had just lost their 10th straight game, not finally lost 1 after winning 10 in a row.

Yes, the Calgary game was a subpar effort in some respects.

Yes, there are some areas of concern heading into the playoffs.

That said, let's remember the good things too:

--The numbers alone make this the best Caps team ever.
--We still ran away with the SE Division.
--We still have the most goals in the NHL.
--We still outscore our opposition by a larger margin than anyone else.
--We still have two of the top five +/- guys in the League.
--We still clinched the Eastern Conference Regular season title (I never thought I'd say this, but: Thanks, Phlyers).
--We still are very likely to capture the President's Trophy.
--We still are considered a legitimate contender for the Stanley Cup.

Please, people: These are most definitely NOT the signs of a team in decline, or of a team deserving of anything but our full support.

Let's please NOT be like Habs fans and Yankee fans. We are Caps fans. We're better than that.

Posted by: Rhino40 | March 29, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

@igor

Completely agree on Corvo. Lets come back down to earth from the trade deadline highs. Corvo is okay, Carlson is a superstar in the making. If Pothier and Corvo were stocks, I would buy Pothier and sell Corvo.

All this talk of Cup, I still don't think we have what it takes to win the tight games. Calgary was so much like so many games this season: down 4-1 to the Pens, 3-0 to Chicago, 2-1 in the 3rd to the Pens, down 2-0 in Edmonton in the 3rd...the list is too long of games where we spot the lead, some big leads early, some narrower late -- and somewhow pull it out. That is NOT going to happen in the playoffs. Simply NOT an option to spot leads and try to get it back. There is even less space and time in the playoffs. Lets face it - we are not built to win in the playoffs. Enjoy the regular season and the President's Trophy!

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | March 29, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Crowns,
What else do you do? Do you walk up and down the aisles during game play blocking everyone's view? Do you say annoying stuff throughout the whole game without paying attention to the game? Do you boo the team when they had a couple bad puck bounces into the net? Do you blame the game on the goalie when it's a team effort? What players do you know other than Ovechkin, Green, Semin, and Backstrom? Can you even handle a conversation with another fan about their teams? Or do you just boo them from five feet away without anything intelligent to say?

I've never laid out my fan resume nor do I need to, but I know that idiots like you ruin games for me from time to time. Good for you for pointing out your bandwagon badge, now learn the damn game. Stop sounding like whiny little girl.

Posted by: MNMNT | March 29, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

mnmnt,

Wow dude. That was a very good rant.

Posted by: Steve_R | March 29, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if you are a bandwagon fan or not just learn the game. That's the bottom line. Then you won't be along the same lines as an annoying Pens fan.

Posted by: MNMNT | March 29, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I wish you'd have used another headline. Looks like he wants to leave the team.

Posted by: rjma1 | March 29, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

man, you bandwagon fans crack me up. this is the best team in hockey right now point wise. lighten up. last i checked, no team went undefeated in the nhl season. don't forget the jagr years, and think about where this team was 3 years ago under hanlon. the window to win a cup is a good couple of years. these guys still need to learn how to win. that's what the playoffs are for..not the regular season.

Posted by: natman19 | March 29, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

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