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Kolzig Explains Nameplate Removal

Olie Kolzig returned the message I left for him early this morning. Unfortunately, I missed his call. But he spoke for about a minute and wanted to explain a few things.

First, Kolzig said he doesn't want to give any interviews for a few days as he collects his thoughts. He said he obviously has some decisions to make and will talk soon.

Second, he also said he didn't remove his nameplate from his locker stall at Verizon Center out of anger. He acknowledged that the Caps' Game 7 loss to Philly could "possibly" have been his last game in Washington, so he wanted to take the nameplate as a memento. He plans to frame it with a jersey.

"It had nothing to do with not playing or pouting," Kolzig said in the message. "I was real proud of the way the guys played. I thought there was going to be destiny with the way the last two weeks went. So I was probably as disappointed as anybody."

As far as my schedule, I plan to take a few days off. But I'll do my best to keep the blog up to date with the latest news.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  April 24, 2008; 10:16 AM ET
 
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I feel a bit better. Enjoy the break -- you deserve it.

Posted by: uncatim | April 24, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love Olie the Goalie, we in D.C. haven't forgotten what he's done for the team and how he hung in there even through the lean times. Thanks for all the updates Tarik, I'm glad your coverage is getting all the attention it's getting, you've been doing a great job even before all the hype. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: GRizzlyexpress | April 24, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

what about his no-show at the team meeting??

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

As I read this I just wanted to cry. I have always liked and admired Olie and felt that he was the epitome of class and a wonderful face of our franchise for so many years. Taking the nameplate as a memento is so poignant and also so sad. I hope he remains with the Caps in some capacity and I look forward to being at the Verizon Center when we honor him and retire his number 37!

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | April 24, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Call me skeptical, but I don't buy it. This is just spin trying to clean up the mess he's left the last couple of days. None of what he said explains why he was the only one not to show up for the mandatory meeting yesterday. I love Olie, but he need's to a get a clue. If he gets a #1 goalie job for next season, I would be completely shocked.

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I've heard that about nameplates. Jerseys are readily available but official locker room nameplates are one of a kind.

Backstrom's Below:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070521/capt.480fe6ecd1594ba6b49940ceab963e55.capitals_backstrom_vamc103.jpg

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | April 24, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

As always, Olie is class to the end. I personally have no problem with him missing the team meeting. He's a proud guy who just watched his team eliminated from the playoffs - a team he sacrificed a considerable amount to stick by. Olie wasn't even able to get in a game to help with the build up to and eventual playoff run (not saying he should have, but you know he WANTED to). That has to really hurt. So rather than face the inevitable questions from the boys, he collected his things and met with the coaches solo. BB praised the quality of that meeting and the man as well. And if Olie were really going to be a jerk, do you think he'd be returning Tarik's phone calls right now? I hold out a faint glimmer of hope that the door is still ajar and there's some way we can get him back here as a backup so he can finish out his run in a Caps jersey. Go-Go-Godzilla!

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

I loved the Post "Locker Room" thing for the Wiz-bangs on the back page today. (Man, those guys are nuts.)

Any chance we can get something like that for the Caps for next year, or are they not nearly as interesting?

Posted by: old time hockey | April 24, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Tarik:

Thanks for the update, and thanks for an outstanding job all season long.

Posted by: stepguybrian | April 24, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

@Leigh

Boudreau said yesterday that he had a good long talk with Olie earlier in the day before the meeting and said that everything was fine and Olie's a class guy all the way.

Posted by: Captain Cliche | April 24, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

cmon, go to the dang last official team meeting, i mean you hang around while bb sits you and be real classy until the very last day? i love ollie, but cmon. shoulda gone to the meeting. i know its gotta hurt but its one more thing.

Posted by: crbdcap | April 24, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I hope while he is taking time off that Olie chooses to read the hundreds of great comments that fans have posted about him. The man has a right to miss the team meeting. He also has a right to make his decisions in private. No matter what he decides I wish him all the luck in the world and if he does not retire a CAP or come back next year in some capacity then I will miss him dearly.

Posted by: LuvsOlie | April 24, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Tarik or anyone,

Can you explain the implications of Jagr continuing through the playoffs on the Cap's part of his contract? Are we done with him, or are we still going to have to carry that baggage?

Posted by: Hew | April 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

@Captain,

What is coach supposed to say? Olie is an ass and he hopes he's not around next season? Welcome to reality land....

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure Jagr has to win the Conn Smythe to kick in the bonus year.

Posted by: Tarik | April 24, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Olie is probably on the beach in St. John with his family...as he has earned. He also has time to think about what he wants to do from a career point. Money obviously doesnt matter anymore. He should be set for life.

Should of gone to the final meeting though. He is still a Capital.

Sign Huet..or BIG TROUBLE

Posted by: SA-Town | April 24, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

big deal, he didn't go to the meeting, so what, he is not a washington capitals the second they lost that game. he is not obligated to do anything.

Posted by: jacaz | April 24, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

@LuvsOlie,

Why does Olie get a pass from the team meeting? Isn't it kind of spitting in the face of his teammates that they just made an incredible run during a magical season, and he can't find the time to come to one last meeting to congratulate them? Fedorov is an unretricted free agent also, and veteran, and he didn't blow off his teammates.....

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Thank you VERY much for the update, Tarik. I was hoping that it wasn't some sort of bitter exclamation point.

I can't even begin to put myself in Olie's shoes right now, and having that kind of personal reason for snagging the nameplate works for me.

Posted by: Goat | April 24, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

@old time hockey

Yeah I enjoyed that back page Wizards locker room feature on the Post today also. It just reveals some funny little facts about the Wizards and the locker room environment. The Post should definitely do something similar to that with the Caps sometime. I think it'd be even more amusing than the one they had on the Wizards. It'd be funny to know about some unwritten rules the team has in there or any other quirks they might have.

Posted by: Bonzai | April 24, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

We had made ollie one of the highest paid goalies in the league (deservibly so). he should go to a mandatory meeting. great guy, great things for the community, but lets not make him out to be the greatest man ever. go to the meeting.

Posted by: cdt | April 24, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

seems that Olie came it, met with the big wigs briefly, and they all *seem* to have mutally decided that Olie could miss the meeting. I dunno, that's how I'm reading it.

Bruce didn't have to say, on the record, that Olie is a "classy guy." He could have just as easily said the very neutral, "We spoke earlier today and it was productive [or whatever you want to put here]." Maybe he stayed positive about it because he knows that Olie is still considered a demi-god among many in DC (my mother in law, who doesn't know a baseball bat from a hockey stick, somehow knows who Olie is and thinks he's great, although that may jut be because I wear his jersey). No reason to make the native restless the first day of the off-season, ya know?

Posted by: Birdie | April 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line: BB should have let Kolzig play at least 1 game against the flyers. Knowing it could be his last year, and that he spent his entire career in DC, BB should have had enough respect to put him in. Huet is good but he's not GREAT. He made great saves, and great misses.


The caps organization should be ashamed of themselves! With a man of that talent and loyalty, you don't punish him and put him on the back burner, you let him play.

Posted by: Kb | April 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

@Leigh
What is BB supposed to say? If the meeting didn't go well, he doesn't say ANYTHING. But by all indications, it did so he did. And for some reason, Olie's circumstances and longevity with the team (he is now the longest tenured player with a Washington sports team) give him special dispensation. Fedorov didn't have a single bit of added angst to deal with, so why wouldn't he attend?

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Jagr's off the books -- he had to have 84 points.

Posted by: jammand | April 24, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

jagr = yuck

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Olie - he has earned the right to skip the final meeting. I'm sure he is upset at not being able to play or being a bigger part of the team's success. It's an emotional time, especially when you are the older outsider looking in at a team going in a younger direction. I hope the team treats him with the same respect that he has given them. Remember, this is a man that resigned with the Caps when we absolutely sucked, and saw them through the tough times. He could have signed with a contender probably for more money. Remember, this is one of the most honored Washington athletes ever for his work with Autism and community service in the city. Remember, this is the only goalie that has taken the taem on his back to the Stanley Cup Finals. It has been a privledge to watch him play, and to grow up with him; watch him mature; and become the incredibly nice and generous man that he is today. I look forward to seeing his name hang from the rafters.

Posted by: Hew | April 24, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

@kb,

So your saying, Coach Boudreau shouldn't have worried about actually winning games in the playoffs, he should have been more concerned with not hurting Olie's feelings? Come on, you can't possibly be serious....

@Orange,

I think Olie had been considered a leader in that dressing room over the years. What kind of message is he sending that he thinks the fact that he wasnt playing relinquishs his leadership responsibility? How about leading by example, meaning, showing up for meetings and patting your teammates on the ass and telling them that they had one hell of a season.

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I know Jagr didn't score 84 points, but wasn't there a 2nd way to get the contract to kick in next year? I thought if he earned the Hart (obviously not), Art Ross (um, no), OR the Conn Smythe it'd kick in.

The chances of him earning the award in question is slim, but am I wrong in saying we aren't off the hook JUST yet?

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 24, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Tarik, Enjoy the time off, but please don't take your nametag down, OK.
There'll be plenty to write about this summer.
:-)

Posted by: Mark Tucker | April 24, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

@leigh

Olie gets a pass because he has been the face of this franchise for 10 years and has been with the organization for 18. How many professional athletes can you say that about? Olie will go down as one of teh most beloved sports figures in Washington Sports History-Next to Dale Hunter, I thinks he's the most beloved Capital ever.

But I think he regrets the way he removed his nameplate and ran out. And I think he spoke to his agent and thought about some things on how to put this fire out. His nickname is Godzilla remember and his temper is famous.

Posted by: dave | April 24, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

@dave,

I completely agree with you. If I havent mentioned it, I love Olie. He's been awesome and he's been a great thing for this franchise. I just don't agree with how he's handling this whole situation. Eventually he'll realize that he's not the goaltender that he once was (probably during the free agency period), and he may look back at what he's done in the last few days (removing the nameplate and missing the mandatory meeting) and regret it.

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Olie removed his nameplate cause he knew the Midget and AZAMAT were not going to refund his deposit on it. Those guys just disrespected him just like they did to Hunter and Langway and Sluggo and all the other guys I heard they didn't send birthday cards do. Olie skipped the meeting cause those tightwads in management wouldn't validate their parking for the extra hour. Such jerks. I hear the Flyers validate parking and provide free coffee in the locker room. Class acts. The Caps could learn from them. Until they figure that out, they'll be nothing but a bunch of division winners with plenty of cap room and MVPs and Calder and Adams finalists.

Posted by: Chief's Twin | April 24, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Remember McPhee went out to get a starting goalie at the deadline. That says to Olie, "we aren't comfortable entrusting our playoff run to you."

The guy gave his heart and soul to the organization, and carried the team on his back in the '98 Cup run. I don't think any of us here on a message board have any right to say what Olie should or shouldn't do as it relates to a team meeting.

Posted by: Justbrewit | April 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Holy crap am I glad you guys are still here today!
I needed a day off yesterday. I kept going to the blog but I just couldn't muster enough to be active. Not that I had much time. But you guys know how it is. I was afraid there would be no more. I can't imagine nothing on the blog all summer.

I have no opinion on the Olie situation, whether he was wrong or not to take his nameplate/miss a meeting. I can only assume and thats worth little. I'm sure he was beat up about the backup gig, but I think a lot of that stems from the fact that he's being too prideful. At the height of his game this year, and he got pretty high, Olie still moved slower across the crease and he was often flailing. Defense? Sure. but I've seen other goalies keep up as well. Olie was as good as they come, no doubt, and he could have made a number of teams better over the past 3 years. We're lucky it was for the Caps. Frankly, i think Olie should have left 3 years ago. He could be in Colorado right now. Too bad this team wasn't here 5 years ago because he would have backstopped them to the finals. The fact of the matter is, he thought he was still a 1 and not a 1A. Did that one 5-0 game matter so much? It did when Huet went hot enough to set a Caps record. I put a huge part of that on the skaters, though. They were giving up less than 5 shots in the 3rd period. That helped.

I'll tell you what, Cooke-Steckel-Bradley was fun to watch. That was a great line. Brash-Gordon-Fehr was fun too. If Fed and Huet stay, and Nylander and Clark come back, who sits? Its almost unfair.

Posted by: oo7 | April 24, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I love Olie. He'll always be my fav Capital of all time but don't forget how much these boys make. It is a business first and foremost. I know it's shocking to think anyone would accept more money to leave this team behind but I think we will all be surprised in the next few months.
(I was more worried seeing Federov the only player who was still wearing his Caps hat during the final interviews. Green who is always tough to read sounded like he was truely considering all his options as well.)

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Glad he cleared that up.

Posted by: jak | April 24, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

@justbrewit,

McPhee rightly went out and got Huet at the deadline because with Olie, they werent going to the playoffs this year. Huet was the missing piece to getting to the playoffs, and you surely can't argue with his stats coming down the stretch. I have no doubt Olie would have given all he had, but Huet made some spectacular saves where I said to myself, "no way Olie could have made that save".

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

You know, back in the day when Adam Oates skipped the final team meeting everyone had a fit because of it. In that situation I think it was appropriate given the fact he was the team Captain if I'm not mistaken and on top of that he had only been with the team a few season.

Let's look at Olie's situation. First let me start off by saying that I was on the "Hate Olie" bandwagon a good portion of the season. However, Olie has every right to do what he's doing. We all know he is a tempermental guy so I think for Olie to step away and take time to ponder things before he speaks is the right thing to do. He realizes that if he comes right out and speaks about the goaltending situation, his position in Washington and not playing that he will say things he regrets and possibly burn a lot of bridges in the process. What Olie is doing is very respectful in my eyes and goes back to the classy individual he is. Yes, he's getting up there in age and yes he struggled a lot over the past few years as the team rebuilt. However, you have to give credit where credit is due. When the likes of Gonchar, Lang, Jagr, and Halpern to name a few left to pursue established, winning organizations, Olie stayed with the Capitals in hopes of seeing the team back to the top where it stood in the 90's. That right there is heart, dedication and passion rolled up into one. I have no problem with him missing the final meeting to collect his thoughts and truthfully I bet no one in the Capitals organization has a problem with it. Before OV, Kolzig was the face of the Capitals and to a man I'm sure every guy in the locker room will tell you that what transpired down the stretch was unfortunate and mishandled to an extent. The point is that Olie deserves to do what he wants right now. He's been hurt and I have to believe that he feels a bit of betrayal from the Capitals management. So, let's jump off Olie's back and allow him the time and space he needs. When the time is right he will talk and everything will be well thought out and delivered with respect.

Again, he may be tempermental, but if your not a tempermental athlete then your not an athlete. As Caps fans, we all hurt at this point in time, but we have SO MUCH to look forward too. Relax and let time run it's course and during that course we will hear from Kolzig.

In closing, screw the rest of the playoffs and let's get the 08-09 season started already!! :)

Posted by: Mitch | April 24, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

What about poor Brent Johnson. Lets not forget his growth this year. He is a solid backup who was put on the shelf. Olie stays or goes we have a solid guy we can depend on.

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Well said, Mitch

Posted by: uncatim | April 24, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Tarik, for your excellent Caps reporting and for this blog. It has made this season even more exciting for us caps fans. Enjoy any time off you have coming, and keep up the good work!

Posted by: Erol | April 24, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

I always looked forward to your blog during the season. The summer should be very exciting, which equals busy for you. You certainly deserve the break. Take care I hope to see you next year when I return to Washington.

Best regards,

Bill

Posted by: Toledocapitals | April 24, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I still don't think, regardless of what coaches you talked to, etc etc... that anyone has a right to skip the last mandatory meeting. It's obviously mandatory for a reason...

Not that I don't think Olie has a right to be frustrated w/ the way things went down, but if nothing else... he's still part of the team, a leader and what kind of example does that show the kids?? Seems to me that although he's upset, he still has a $5,000,000 responsibility to show those kids class, leadership and respect until the day he is released/retires/signs elsewhere. just my opinion i guess, but seems like common sense.

As far as the nameplate, i love that idea... wish I could've stolen the nameplate before he got it :-) haha. that'd be a sweet momento for my basement! LOL.

@ Cappies... i love seeing Feds in that Caps skullcap! looks perfect to me! Work it out Teddy!

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I'm reading Olie skipping the meeting as a way to avoid the press. Come in, get his stuff and boogie. "Oh, did you want to talk to me? That's ok, I'll leave a voicemail at 4 AM instead."

Give the guy space. He's still capable of playing in the league, but in what role? If all he can get is a back-up gig, then I think he'll retire. I don't think he even thinks he can be a full time #1 anymore, which leaves him in a time sharing situation, which are incredibly unstable and usually a recipe for failure.

One thing I think is pretty clear, is that he won't be here if we resign Huet. Huet's play since we got him has earned him a number #1 job (I think he's going to Ottawa.) and #1 money. We're not giving him 5-6 million and not playing him 80% of the time.

I suspect Olie will announce his retirement, if he does, right after the free agent period starts. If it lingers into August and you don't hear anything, then look out he'll probaby be somewhere else if there's takers.

Leave him alone until after Detroit is dancing around with the Cup (again).

Posted by: old time hockey | April 24, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@ Mitch

Nobody asked Olie to speak, and he very easily could've said "no comment" at any point...

Attending a mandatory meeting and speaking about your future are two completely different things. He could've attended the meeting with the entire rest of the team and then left.

so I have to respectfully disagree completely with your opinion on the situation.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I agree. Feds seems like he really loves this team. You figure for one more season he would be a worth while investment even if he takes some what of a back seat... I think Cooke was a great addition as well. It really is tough especially when Huet had the Capitals paint job on his helmet for the first time. I said, "Yup, he fits right in."

Posted by: @Scofield | April 24, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

>>>"I still don't think, regardless of what coaches you talked to, etc etc... that anyone has a right to skip the last mandatory meeting. It's obviously mandatory for a reason..."

The coaches are the ones who make it mandatory. If Gabby gave Kolzig permission to miss the team meeting (which it looks like he did, given the coach's comments and revelation that he already met with him privately), then nobody has a right to criticize Kolzig missing it.

Posted by: exwhaler | April 24, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

McPhhee made an AWESOME move to get Huet in a make a contribution on a contending team, that has real potential for years to come. Now, Huet may not see it that way but from McPhee's side, he couldnt or shouldnt have passed that oppotunity up. I think Huet has become more emotionally bought in and Ted is a great owner - so the Caps organization has the advantage at this point. The wild card is his family.

As to Olie, it was ugly seeing the losses he was involved in down the stretch (6-3 in CAR, 5-0 in CHI) because that's how the season will be remembered about him. He did carry the team until Huet was RIGHTLY acquired - Olie himself admitted that Huet was "world class".
Olie should have said farewell to the gang at the meeting. Maybe he didnt want to get all emotional, who knows. But I have to agree that although he is royalty around DC, he shouldnt have run out on the boys. It looked pouty and low class.

Posted by: Shaggy | April 24, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

remember, too, that each and every night through the end, as the team went back into the locker room during intermissions or after the game, Olie was the one standing at the end of the bench giving everyone else a pat on the back, taking half a second to connect with every single guy on the ice that night. That too is leadership.

I wish I could find it, but there is a gloroius picture of Ovie and Olie after they won the southeast. It captured their joy of the moment perfectly. I believe it ran in the Sunday, April 6 edition of the dead tree Post, on one of the inside pages.

Posted by: Birdie | April 24, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Man, you'd think Olie would have earned a little more leeway with folks over the years. He explained the nameplate thing is a way that no one can complain about. Now people are slagging him for missing ONE meeting, when there has been no indication that he was anything other than supportive and a good team player during the playoff run. Worse, it's all based on speculation. We have no idea what he did or didn't say to the guys in the locker room after the game on Tuesday. Maybe he explained to them that he wasn't going to be at the meeting and why - told them good job, smacked them all on the @$$, collected his stuff and left. Given his past behavior, that's just as likely a scenario as him being a petulant schmuck. Give the guy some space to process what he's been though.

Oh, and as far as Greenie goes. When Koken was interviewing him and told him that BB had been signed ot a long-term deal, Green looked very pleased and said "that brings a big smile to my face." Doesn't sound to me like someone who is looking to go somewhere else.

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Anybody else read this about how bad the ice at Verizon Center was for game 7?

http://www.onfrozenblog.com/

Signing key free agents is important, but in moving forward to next year I'd like to see some serious effort put into improving the ice at the Phone Booth.

All the Caps' investment in skill guys is no good with giving them the ice they need.

AND - are vets like Feds interested in coming back to play on what Chris Clarke is quoted as saying is "the worst ice in the league?"

Please. It's Ice Hockey.

Give the Caps ice.

Posted by: grackle | April 24, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm criticizing Kolzig for missing it because he's more worried about himself than the team. He has all summer to worry about his future, this one meeting wouldn't have killed him.

Like I said before... if nothing else, take an extra hour out of your day and spend the (possible) last day of your Caps career with the team. It's just a selfish act IMO. Pass from BB or not.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Cut the man a break already. I know I've been critical in my blog and such about Kolzig's on ice performance, but off ice he has continued to show greatness. He is going through emotions at this point that no one else could possibly understand. I personnally thought that the way this was reported from the start was inappropriate. Kolzig met with the coach already. Why force the man to break down in front of the team in a meaningless meeting.

Posted by: Caps423 | April 24, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

@Scofield

you are on the record as an Olie basher, so I will respectfully ignore anything you have to say on the matter :-)

I think he'll regret missing the team meeting, but I think he really just didn't want to get sucked into a conversation with reporters. Its not as if he stood in the locker room and bad mouthed the team, the organization and the fans. If you think a simple "no comment" will get reporters off your back...you're naive.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | April 24, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Folks I totally believe the nameplate issue. @ last yrs equipment sale I ran for the nameplates to get Olie's, so I could use it to frame with a game worn jersey. Cut the guy some slack getting older is hard for anyone especially an athlete, maybe him not attending the mtg gave someone else the opportunity to stand-up that wouldn't have happened had he been in the mtg his way of quietly passing the torch.

I personally hope he retires - him playing for someone else would break my heart, but I would still root for him in any game - even against the Caps(I did that for Bonzai when he was in Atlanta).

One of the nicest guys to have ever been on the team!

Posted by: slmperson | April 24, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

@ Sombrero Guy

We talked about this yesterday and you agreed that it wasn't a great move on his part.

And as to your Olie bashing comment, yes... I'm not a Kolzig fan... but have never denied his previous contributions to the team and/or the community... I think he's a world class guy (regardless of this event) and was previously a world class goalie. (not so much anymore)

As to this situation... If you think the reporters are gonna swamp him and try to stop him from walking away or going to his car... I'd argue that point. If everyone here things he deserves so much respect, I'd have to say the reports (esp Corey-WT and Tarik-WP) would respect that as well. Tarik called and left one message and let Olie get back to him at his convenience.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I would agree about the ice...you could tell it really affected play in game 7. A lot of skipping-bouncing pucks. Get rid of the Wizards - they are pointless, big mouthed losers anyways - and who needs the creepy circus?

Posted by: Hew | April 24, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

...to add to that last note...

Olie saying "I took the nameplate as a momento...etc" could've easily sufficed as much in person as it did on the phone... and he wouldn't have had to answer questions about missing the meeting, cause he'd have been there. right?

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Allot of teams have great ice and support both hockey and Basketball. The games in D.C. I remember sitting comfortably in a t-shirt. Games I've seen elsewear the buildings are freezing. I think they have a real climate control problem.

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the team equipment sale, does anyone know when that will be? I'm assuming it will be at Kettler?

Posted by: Mitch | April 24, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

retire olies jersey...retire bondras jersey...enough said!!!

Posted by: deadskin | April 24, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

oh...and retire maruks jersey!!!

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK!!

Posted by: deadskin | April 24, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

@ Hew

I'm not a basketball fan really, but I don't think it's the fault of the Wiz. It's Old-Abe that's the problem.

Have him show the Caps some respect. He could've said "don't book the circus during the playoff run" and also could make a few changes to the building to help create a better ice surface, but he doesn't care about that. It seems the Caps are his wicked step-children.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Orange Crushed essentially said what I wanted to say. The nameplate thing was spun out of proportion by the media (sorry Tarik) and the fans' reaction (mass hysteria, anyone?).

We will have to wait and see what the future brings, but for now Olie is still a Capital. And I for one (maybe the only one?) am glad.

Posted by: Jill | April 24, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't really care about b-ball either. Abe needs to sell the Arena to Ted and I bet we would see some changes. It's hard to manage a company when you need your diapers changed and drool wiped from your mouth every 10 minutes.

Posted by: Hew | April 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

@ Jill... I'll agree with that.

I do know, during the playoff run AND the playoffs... you could've probably polled all the other teams and I'd venture to say that 29 of them would've LOVED to have Kolzig sitting on their bench as a backup.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't really care about b-ball either. Abe needs to sell the Arena to Ted and I bet we would see some changes. It's hard to manage a company when you need your diapers changed and drool wiped from your mouth every 10 minutes.

Posted by: Hew | April 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't really care about b-ball either. Abe needs to sell the Arena to Ted and I bet we would see some changes. It's hard to manage a company when you need your diapers changed and drool wiped from your mouth every 10 minutes.

Posted by: Hew | April 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I don't really care about b-ball either. Abe needs to sell the Arena to Ted and I bet we would see some changes. It's hard to manage a company when you need your diapers changed and drool wiped from your mouth every 10 minutes.

Posted by: Hew | April 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad too. Kolzig is still the MAN... Can we assume everyone is leaving since they got Ovechkins autograph?

Posted by: KV | April 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad too. Kolzig is still the MAN... Can we assume everyone is leaving since they got Ovechkins autograph?

Posted by: KV | April 24, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

sorry guess that was too harsh - i'm still bitter and angry from tuesday

Posted by: hew | April 24, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

deadskin, I think ted hinted on his blog that Bondra's number will be retired next season :) he said something like, people keep asking, but we can't do it until he officially retired, and then you have to go through the NHL so they can make a bazillion retro jerseys to cash in. So, I took that to mean as soon as Bondra officially retired, the Caps started the process to retire his number. (oooh, maybe the first home game of the season will be raising the SE Conf Champ banner AND retiring Bondra's number!)

Posted by: Birdie | April 24, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

@Jill,

Your right Jill, he is still a Capital, and he did make 4.5million this season. So he should have been at the end of the year mandatory meeting.

I love these boards, there are always such great arguments going on, people detailing their positions from both sides of the fence. I do respect your opinion and others like it, I just respectfully disagree.

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm not bashing Olie... but go to the meeting...

You played your whole career here, no one treated you poorly, you were treated as a goalie with deteriorating skills, plain and simple. You got your 300th. You'll be in the rafters... These kids in the locker room are young and having you there probably would mean nothing, but you not being there could mean something to them.

Fedorov showed up. This guys career, no offense to you Olie, drawfs yours. He's only been here 6 weeks and he felt compelled to post to a "mandatory meeting".

All we can do is speculate, but I'm putting my money on Olie being a bit of a baby. I hope than I'm wrong.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

@Hew

Fix your enter button... and try not to spill diet coke on the keyboard.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

@Jschon,

Welcome aboard the Olie is acting selfish train!

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Would Kolzig have got us into the playoffs during that 10 game run leading to the end of the season? Would Kolzig have brought us back from a 3-1 deficit for a game 7 against the Flyers?
Just a few questions. What do you all think???

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

My comments were not about the meeting. I don't know why he didn't attend the meeting (I'd venture to guess no one does except Olie and his family). It's up to the team to address that with him.

You can speculate all you want that he blew it off due to sour grapes, but in the end it is still just fan speculation.

Posted by: Jill | April 24, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

maybe not, but if Thoresen had done to Olie what he did to Huet in that second goal, he would have had more than just a ruptured nut to contend with...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

@Capies,

You never know what effect momentum might have on certain players, but I'd say no. Olie was slow moving side to side, and Huet made some spectacular save that made me think "no way Olie would have made that save." For example, when Huet dropped his stick to dive across the creade quicker to make that save against the Flyers, against Olie, that would have been in the back of the net before Olie knew what happened. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

he was not a no show at the team meeting. he had a private meeting with boudreau before hand. he did not want to see the media and that was fine with the Capitals.

Posted by: rob | April 24, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

"maybe not, but if Thoresen had done to Olie what he did to Huet in that second goal, he would have had more than just a ruptured nut to contend with..."

HAHAHAHAHA... True, Very Very True!! :-)

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

@Jill
My point exactly. It's ALL speculation. I suspect NONE of us have any idea what goes on in a "mandatory end of season meeting." For all we know, it's akin to the last day of school - and we all know how productive THAT is. For all he's done, Olie shows one moment of weakness, and people are just crucifying him over it. Well, until I skate a mile in the man's skates, I'm reserving judgment. He's earned that much from me at least.

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

sorry, 12:31 was me...

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 24, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

If Olie had been in goal, the play where Huet launched his stick would have resulted in the Ref being pinned to the boards like a bug!

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Kolzig is any different from Bondra's last days or even Federovs for that matter... Bondra was not scoring or even moving close to what we remembered him to be in his last few years outside of Wash. If you remember the interview with him earlier in the year he pretty much said, "You gotta hang them up at some point." It's a touch, For Love of The Game Decision and if that is what Olie decides to do he should know that every Capitals fan would salute and honor him more then any Caps player in history.

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Id be all for just a hockey use facility for the caps, but without all those other events the arena doesnt exist.

No matter how many games the caps sell out, its not going to cover cost to open the building all season long.

All the other events generate HUGE revenue which allows the arena to continue operations. If the arena and team are owned by 2 separate entities, then the teams that play on the arena effectively 'rent' the facility and then the arena obviously gets a cut of all other revenue that is generated.

Although the circus is just that...a circus, Ringling bros probably pays a good piece of change to put on a show there. As does the NCAA and whatever other trade shows come in the door.

The real problem most likely lies with the lack of a qualified operations person to oversee just the ice.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

JMU Caps girl -- My memory is not completely shot. In 2007 Capitals Summer Development Camp took place July 11-14 at Kettler.

http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=332467

Posted by: uncatim | April 24, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

The Caps are at the mercy of the building owners, aka Abe, who continue to dump on the Caps. They will do anything to cram an event in there without regard to what important sports event is coming.

Nothing will happen till Abe sells Wash. Sports & Ent. to Ted.

Posted by: nadir | April 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

sorry, uncatim, i saw that. I looked for Rookie Camp, not Development Camp. I hope its in July again this year. That'll help tie me over until September. If I have to wait that long, I may do something crazy...
Speaking of...it's outdated, but I love this article about the off-season.
http://dccheapseats.blogspot.com/2007/06/offseason-activity.html

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Olie wants to play until he's forty. i think that was his goal. Cutting that short is an extremely disheartening thought.

Posted by: KV | April 24, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody ever thought that maybe he had a REASON for missing the meeting? I hate that people could be so quick to bash him or pick on him when they haven't heard all the facts. We all know that the media can make things sound way worse than they really are.

I also think that with everything he's given the Caps, he deserved to play at least 1 playoff game. I love Huet and think he's great, but he was looking tired. You figure he played every playoff game, as well as the last stretch of the regular season. That first goal the Flyers got in game 7 that sorta trickled in? No way he would have let that happen if he wasn't tired. He didn't play as well as we've seen him do in these playoff games...so putting Kolzig in at least one of those games couldn't have hurt...hell, with all the rest he had, maybe he would have helped the team win one of those games they lost. I'm not bashing Huet in anyway, by the way...I really do think he was the better goalie right now, but I think he needed a break...and plus I've been an Olie fan for as long as I can remember, and it killed me to see him sitting on the bench every game.

Posted by: CapsFaninSC | April 24, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse


@ JMU_Caps_Gir

then... HAHHAHAAHH great comment! give credit where credit is due :-)

@ James D

Agreed with that whole comment... although push the circus back a few weeks... that could've been done... the NHL/NBA schedules were out way before they scheduled that circus.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD
I don't think anyone has a problem with the dual-use nature of the VC, although I do believe it is one of the most heavily utilized arenas in the country, and thus has quite a few more changeovers from ice surface to "other" than the norm. The real issue is with Abe and him treating the Caps like the red-mohawked stepchild. Reports are the NHL ice specialists told him that installing humidifiers would greatly improve the ice and he told them to pound sand. And while the circus and the NCAAs are fine, he has a disturbing tendency to throw the Caps under the Zamboni when it comes to scheduling dates at the VC. Why else do they get the lengthy spring road trip every season at the worst possible time? So he can squeeze every last possible dollar out of the latest "American Idol MMA on Ice" tour? We deserve better, but we won't get it until Ted has control of the facility.

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

nadir,

can you blame him though? He has a building to run and typically you must secure a building almost a year in advance in order to run a show on it.

So what if he says, well I have a Wizards game at 1, a Caps game at 7 and the next day the circus in town and the day after that its monster trucks and then a career fair.

I would be more worried if there were NO events at the Booth because then the place would close and the Caps would be out of a home, without a buyer of course.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

nadir,

can you blame him though? He has a building to run and typically you must secure a building almost a year in advance in order to run a show on it.

So what if he says, well I have a Wizards game at 1, a Caps game at 7 and the next day the circus in town and the day after that its monster trucks and then a career fair.

I would be more worried if there were NO events at the Booth because then the place would close and the Caps would be out of a home, without a buyer of course.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

If you guys don't want me to come back on here i won't... But to sit there and make fun of me for feeling like this series was dream like means you weren't paying attention to the whole picture
A) both these teams really shouldn't have made it if it weren't for carolina losing so the fact that they made it in is amazing
B) the series was unreal hockey... the best i've seen in a long time
I am sad and if you want to make fun of me for that go ahead, but i enjoyed watching the capitals and flyers play eachother... the fact that i'm on here during game day for the flyers and habs proves how much i truly loved watching these two teams go at it... From watching the way the caps play hockey they made me a fan of their team... Obviously i'm a flyers fan but i have a new respect for this team that was not there before this series started... I didn't start out making fun or bashing the caps at all... I was honest about both teams from the beginning... I'm definatly a strong believer in existentialism and the power of now and that series and the way i felt afterwards merits a sad feeling... I was upset to see it all end... I was excited for the first 15 mins, but afterwards this feeling of "wow it's over i guess" took over
Flyers play the Habs tonight and i don't see this being nearly as exciting as the last series the flyers played in... I don't know how this series will be played out and we'll find out at 7pm... On paper and this season i'd say the flyers lose this series hands down... but in the playoffs who knows right?
Again if majority of you want me to not come back i won't... I've said that all along... I don't want to be in a place where i'm unwanted

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, would be a happy camper with a #1 / #2 of Huet and Olie (sorry Johnny) for next year. I'm thinking it's a pipe dream though. Once the Sens let Ray go, that opened up a potential spot North of the border for Huet. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see him staying in DC.

Who is out there amongst UFA goalies that is good? Theo out in Colo, anyone else? What is Ellis's status in Nash?

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

If you guys don't want me to come back on here i won't... But to sit there and make fun of me for feeling like this series was dream like means you weren't paying attention to the whole picture
A) both these teams really shouldn't have made it if it weren't for Carolina losing so the fact that they made it in is amazing
B) the series was unreal hockey... the best I've seen in a long time
I am sad and if you want to make fun of me for that go ahead, but i enjoyed watching the capitals and flyers play each other... the fact that I'm on here during game day for the flyers and habs proves how much i truly loved watching these two teams go at it... From watching the way the caps play hockey they made me a fan of their team... Obviously i'm a flyers fan but i have a new respect for this team that was not there before this series started... I didn't start out making fun or bashing the caps at all... I was honest about both teams from the beginning... I'm definitely a strong believer in existentialism and the power of now and that series and the way i felt afterwards merits a sad feeling... I was upset to see it all end... I was excited for the first 15 mins, but afterwards this feeling of "wow it's over i guess" took over
Flyers play the Habs tonight and i don't see this being nearly as exciting as the last series the flyers played in... I don't know how this series will be played out and we'll find out at 7pm... On paper and this season I'd say the flyers lose this series hands down... but in the playoffs who knows right?
Again if majority of you want me to not come back i won't... I've said that all along... I don't want to be in a place where I'm unwanted

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFaninSC

I'm glad you don't run the Capitals.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

jeff,
philly needed 4 points in their final 3 games to get in, regardless of what happened.

They did that

Right there tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

Now go take your existentialism back to day care kiddo

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

jeff,
philly needed 4 points in their final 3 games to get in, regardless of what happened.

They did that

Right there tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

Now go take your existentialism back to day care kiddo

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@Jeff
I live on the west coast and watch all the games on Center Ice. We were all pretty surprised the Flyers won actually out here. So who knows they might take Montreal to a game 7 as well. Be weary of your commentators though Jeff. They are the most bias in the business so I know your opinions may be swayed a bit by Jim Jackson and that Cotes guy.

Posted by: REDARMY | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@Jeff
I live on the west coast and watch all the games on Center Ice. We were all pretty surprised the Flyers won actually out here. So who knows they might take Montreal to a game 7 as well. Be weary of your commentators though Jeff. They are the most bias in the business so I know your opinions may be swayed a bit by Jim Jackson and that Cotes guy.

Posted by: RedArmy | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

jeff,
philly needed 4 points in their final 3 games to get in, regardless of what happened.

They did that

Right there tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

Now go take your existentialism back to day care kiddo

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@Jeff
I live on the west coast and watch all the games on Center Ice. We were all pretty surprised the Flyers won actually out here. So who knows they might take Montreal to a game 7 as well. Be weary of your commentators though Jeff. They are the most bias in the business so I know your opinions may be swayed a bit by Jim Jackson and that Cotes guy.

Posted by: REDARMY | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Jeff

Philly needed 4 points out of their last 3 games to get into the playoffs, regardless of what happened elsewhere, they got it

so right there tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

jeff,
philly needed 4 points in their final 3 games to get in, regardless of what happened.

They did that

Right there tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

Now go take your existentialism back to day care kiddo

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@ Jeff

Flyers needed 4 pts in their final 3 games to make the post season, regardless of what happened between CAR and WSH.

Flyers did that.

That, there tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.

Take the existentialism back to daycare
kiddo

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Boudreau should have played Olie in the playoffs out of pity is more an Olie fan than a Caps fan.

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

whats up with the blog?

i cant post

Posted by: Tomtom | April 24, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

The Caps are at the mercy of the building owners, aka Abe, who continue to dump on the Caps. They will do anything to cram an event in there without regard to what important sports event is coming.

Nothing will happen till Abe sells Wash. Sports & Ent. to Ted.

Posted by: nadir | April 24, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I've played at the Verizon Center a few times and yes the ice is bad. But it is MUCH worse down in Tampa!

Posted by: Iceman10 | April 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

@Leigh
Agreed. I'm an Olie fan and even I realize Huet was the right choice down the stretch and in the playoffs. I had my doubts after game 3, but Cris played lights out and made some inhuman stops in the game that Olie never gets to, and from that point forward, it was a no-brainer. Was Huet tired in Game 7? Possibly (the first goal was a bit soft). But starting Olie after him sitting for that long would have been an insane move.

Oh, and if I had to choose between Philly Jeff and Chief, I know who I'd pick to stay...

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This is the list of goalies who have played more games than Huet this year...

Evgeni Nabokov
Martin Brodeur
Miikka Kiprusoff
Ryan Miller
Roberto Luongo
Henrik Lundqvist
Cam Ward
Tomas Vokoun
Vesa Toskala
Manny Legace
Ilja Bryzgalov
Rick Dipietro
Marty Turco
Martin Biron
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Niklas Backstrom
Martin Gerber
Tim Thomas
Olaf Kolzig
Pascal Leclaire
Jose Theodore

To say Huet was tired is as much speculation as saying Olie missed the mandatory meeting because of a pilates class at the Y.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like making a mountain out of a molehill over nothing, and before talking to the key people involved. Also, from what my "sources" tell me, Kolzig was not the only player to miss yesterday's "mandatory" meeting. Funny how those players' names weren't mentioned in this morning's Post, though.

Posted by: Joe Bob | April 24, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Alright...'nuff about Olie.
Not too many athletes retire gracefully when they are replaced in the lineup. So he got mad, got his stuff and went home. Big deal...let it go already.
Let's talk next year's Caps, eh?
Keep everybody? Try to get a goal-scorer? Get a new D-man, or two? If so, what's the cost? Trades...?

Posted by: Caps fan in SC | April 24, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

In re Olie, nameplate and missed meeting:

You know, if you're a man who possesses both some pride and some onions -- and it has always seemed that Olie qualifies -- then it's just sort of okay to tell the folks who've treated you a bit poorly (and perhaps embarrassed you) to screw off. I don't care how much money these guys make, they're still ultimately guys (and maybe boys), and there's just nothing wrong with being a bit uncooperative in this situation. If I were in Olie's shoes, I suspect I would have done the same thing. He was a total pro when it mattered, and now he can be snotty without consequence to the team's performance, so good for him. He was treated a bit shabbily, given everything he's put into this organization for the past two decades.

Posted by: LostEdge | April 24, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday someone listed Jim Vandermeer as someone they caps could go after...

Big mistake
he sucks, but he might be right in the caps salary range.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"I was upset to see it all end"
YOU were upset, get the HELL out of here, youre totally unwanted

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

STOP

Thief!

Someone help! I am property of the Washington Capitals and Ive been stolen!

HELP!

Posted by: Olie's Nameplate | April 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD
I guess I'm younger then you so the day care thing makes sense I guess...
The flyers opponents were the devils pens rags and islanders in their last 8 i believe... yeah islanders are no shows with out DiPietro and the pens gave up on that last game but exactly how is that an easy schedule to get in... don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about when you hardly know me and are willing to type out immature insults
@REdArmy
I hate both coates and jackson... and for that matter clement too... clement was ok when he was paired with thorne at least they were funny... Thorne you traitor! BASEBALL!!?!?!

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

hey James, take the submit key back to daycare kiddo! ; l
Jeff, you sound like a hockey fan. Course you're going to catch some heat in here--we're mostly Caps Fans after all--but if you're not trolling I'll bet we won't try to blow up your bridge.
Habs have been my second team since Henri Richard was captain, so of course I expect their speed, skill, Saku, and sizzling goalie to eliminate the Flyers in five. Vengeance on Layaway! See you on Versus.

Posted by: redlineblue | April 24, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Jeff

Thorne has ALWAYS done baseball!

and I never said it was an easy schedule. I said they needed 4 points to get in and they got 4 points.

They didnt need the caps to lose. Carolina lost the night they played Jersey and that put the Flyers in earlier than needed. If Carolina had won that night, it would have come down to the last game of the season for Philly to get in. But they won against the Pens so it didnt matter.

Our caps got in by the grace of Carolina losing.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I heard Thorne voice overing for sumo once

that was classic

Posted by: Tomtom | April 24, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow..I thought I was the only one using this blog-name. I have spaces, no caps.
I'll change mine since I don't want to be confused with that other dude in SC. I don't agree with you about Olie playing.
By the way...where in SC are you?

Posted by: Caps fan in SC | April 24, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Steve:
That's exactly what I would like to see - Huet #1 and Olie #2 - but I am guessing that not very plausible. It assumes:

1) Huet WANTS to stay
2) The Caps will give him the years and $$ that he wants
3) Olie is willing to be #2

At this point, I am guessing that all three are a long shot.

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Kolzig was always known for one thing.
Capable of stealing a game despite his team.
That capability dwindled, but it did not end.
Game 7 with Kolzig and the Caps win.

Posted by: Chief | April 24, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I think if Huet is unwilling to sign here, we could set our sights on the trade market. The team certainly has the assets to make a deal, whether it be players, draft picks, or a combination of the 2.

Posted by: Leigh | April 24, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey everybody. This blog is like a dream and I am so sad I won't be able to come out and play anymore.

I just don't want this to end. Jeff and I love sitting side by side at the computer, arms around each other, stroking the skin on each other's arms while we talk about how life is so great because these two great teams played a great series.

When Jeff starts talking about dreams it really makes me happy because I know that one day he and I are going to be able to move to Vermont and have that Civil Union we dream about everyday. Once he graduates from Princeton, the sky is the limit for 2 young bucks like us.

If there is a God, the Flyers and the Capitals will be playing each other on that day.

I do have a tape of game 7 that I like to play for him while we have our private time. Boy am I glad this series took place.

What a dream.

Posted by: Jeff's boyfriend | April 24, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

i guess jeff neglected to mention his partner was trolling around too.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh, one more thing everyone.

I did make Jeff a gift for our anniversary.

I sewed a Washington jersey and a Flyers jersey together for him to make a real diverse red and orange jersey.

I took the numbers of two of his favorite players and made them into 1 and made the names into one as well

It is going to be a number 88 Briechkin
jersey!

OOOOOOOOOH I am in for a great night to night.

Dream on everyone

toodles.

Posted by: Jeff's boyfriend | April 24, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Yup
Things just got a little creepy

Posted by: Tomtom | April 24, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Whew, I am glad Caps are done with cancer that is Kolzig. Give him a medal, send him to HOF, but just don't let him ever play on ice for Caps. He has a big mouth and nothing to support it. He should've been put on waivers long time ago. He is the reason why GMGM didn't get Bryzgalov. Only after his game completely deteriorated, GMGM signed Huet.

One more time, he was the worst NHL goalie this season, but Kolzig cultists don't care.

He is the reason why Caps were at the bottom of NHL.

Posted by: King Huet | April 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

King Huet:
Cancer? Ew ...

Jeff bashers:
Play nice ...

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes please play nice. He is sensitive and requires a lot of lovin when he gets his feelings hurt. Then I have to take him home and rock the red.

Posted by: Jeff's boyfriend | April 24, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Jeff is being level headed and what he says doesn't seem to be trolling to me. At least not at this point. I'd lay off him a bit.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | April 24, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Even I dont want Jeff

Posted by: Danny Briere | April 24, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

My Girlfriend compared the Olie thing to Cheating on him with hotter guy (Huet), who is only going to laeave after a few months. And the current boyfriend (olie) is leaving too. So you had a great time for the few month with the new guy, but the you relize, your not going to have either one of them.

Posted by: R | April 24, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

If the Midget hadn't banished Hunts, Bonzai, Langway, Kristich and Sluggo the Caps would have won the Stanley Cup.

Posted by: Chief's Twin | April 24, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Time to go Jeff, this is for Caps fans.

Posted by: MikeR | April 24, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Can we please leave Olie and the meeting and the taken nameplate thing alone already? Let the man have some trinkets to remember his playing days in Washington.

Posted by: old time hockey | April 24, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

olie stuck around this team during the rebuild and "wasted" the final couple years of his career. he expected that when the rebuilt ended (this year/next year) that he would reap the rewards of sticking through the mess. came a year (or three) too late. and now he's slower, a lot slower, and we just grabbed a sweet goalie who played great down the stretch. kolzig is getting SCREWED, no doubt, but at the same time what is best for the team is not always best for the players (though the bondra deal is still up for debate). because i don't see him getting picked up by another team for more than a backup role, i hope we will just overpay him to be on staff so he can stay with the organization.

love you olie.

Posted by: bondra's coming back? | April 24, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

@Boo

Sorry, but this is what I think, no exageration. Last season Kolzig was ranked #17, Huet #21. This season Kolzig was #44, and Huet #22. That's how Olie's game deteriorated, from #17 to #44. But his big mouth didn't. He was messing up guys in a locker room. blah-blah-bkah... goes on ice and let's all pucks in. And God forbid to say anything against him. That's why it was neccesary to remove the cancer.

Posted by: King Huet | April 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

A "mandatory meeting" is not "mandatory" if management excuses you from it - as would appear to be the case here - I am a senior member of my organization and have been excused from mandatory meetings for various reasons many times - no one knows what went on between Olie and Sr. Management - I don't think what he did was disrespectful at all - I do think it's disrespectful to call out a player who has represented the organization and the city with, heart and class for almost 20 years without knowing all the facts.

You're a great Cap Olie - one of the best, I wish you well in whatever your future endeavors are and hope that you remain a Cap in one form or another - DC is your home - I hope you'll always know that.

Posted by: A little reality | April 24, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm jealous that Jeff has a man crush on Briere and not me. I'm more important and demand a trade immediately.

Posted by: Martin Biron | April 24, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Jeff,
Please join our cult of the Crosbys. We will take you with open arms.

Mario give a great back massage

Posted by: Pittsburgh | April 24, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow! What venom today on the blog.

People who blog anon or with made up names are just cowards (Jeff's girlfriend).

I have no problem having Jeff on here. Better than Chief because he at least supports his theories with some facts.

Lay off of Olie. Yes, I am a fan. I also think bringing in Huet was a good move and was played out correctly. Nobody knows what was said in the meeting with BB and if he said he could miss the meeting, then it is not mandatory.

King Huet, if Olie was a cancer on the team, he would have spoken out in the last month of the season. He is not a cancer. I am sorry Huet did not win us the Cup to keep your worshipping of him going. I guess you will need to root for another team when he is gone.

Instead of being so negative, let's look at everything we have going for this team. For goodness sake, from a selfish standpoint of a 34 year fan of the team, I deserve to feel positive about the team.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

@Boo, OTH, Sombrero, et. Al.,
This is getting out of hand - the cyber bottle throwers have taken over. Might be time to step back from the blog for a bit to let things calm down. Why folks want to run Jeff out of town on a rail is beyond me. He bought a freaking Backstrom jersey, for Pete's sake. Do you do that if you aren't a fan of the team? Like no one else here supports more than one team. Madness...

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

hey CT

arent these all made up names?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Ollie has always worn his emotions on his sleeve. I believe his explanation, and hope he remains with the team in some capacity.

Chief has been quiet today. As I predeicted, he showed up as soon as the Caps lost.

Posted by: Leeguru | April 24, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

hey CT, hows them whalers doin?

Posted by: noideasforascreenname, how shocking! | April 24, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

@ anon

They are all made up names. Grow a sack and put yours on a post.

As for Jeff I am one of those who are sick of his 'im sad this is over' and its like living in a dreamland speeches when he clearly doesnt pay enough attention to detail.

His first few posts on this blog were decidedly negative toward everything until people jumped all over him then he changed his tune. I dont buy his act one bit and I doubt he bought a Backstrom jersey or any other jersey for that matter.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Olie goes back to the Langway days, that was a long time ago. He's been on top of his game a long long time. Bravo Olaf!!!!

Posted by: Hattrk23 | April 24, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but most of the true bloggers use the same name all the time which becomes a recognizable entity. Going anon or using hurtful names is just wrong.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Made up names? What do you mean made up names? My Mom told me I was named after the flavor of NeHi she was drinking when I was conceived...

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of whalers

I went to a 'canes game back the first year they were down there and I tried to start a 'Lets go Whalers' chant

Yeah, i was looked at like I had a couple heads.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Plus, these things that you say would never be said to someone's face. You are not only hiding in a blog, but you aren't even using a name bloggers can relate to.

Bad form.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

So what's considered hurtful names? One's of the Flyers players and or fans?

Posted by: noideasforascreenname, how shocking! | April 24, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

hey: noideasforascreenname, how shocking

I am from DC and have been a fan for longer than you have been born so cool it. I could give a care less about any team outside of the DC area.

Again, the attacking.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

That's b/c people in Carolina didn't know what hockey was until the team became relevant, whatever year that was.

Posted by: noideasforascreenname, how shocking! | April 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I think I've drawn more insults and heat then trolls... haha i don't mind i guess. I some of you in here would talk hockey rather then garbage... and for those of you that do its been awesome... I'm glad i found this blog
Allright time to get in a little shinny before the game.
See ya later guys

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

I posted at 1:35
No sense continuing, it's officialy a Gay Rant.

Posted by: Chief | April 24, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

So how long have you been living in CT?

Posted by: noideasforascreenname | April 24, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Since 1995

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Who votes for the Jack Adams? Writers or Broadcasters? Thanks!

Posted by: Johnny | April 24, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I just have a feeling next years Caps goalies are:
1.) Emery
2.) Johnson

my 2 cents, not necessarily what I want to see tho

Posted by: NJ | April 24, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD
I never attacked anyone or any team... I've kept things real since i found this blog... If i was negative then it's because i thought things should be directed that way... hockey's a sport that constantly changes within every second of everygame... I was down on BB cause he didn't prove anything to me until he changed his game plan to a cycle and powerplay to umbrealla although i think Greenie should have been at that point and until he switched his lines... I'll be the first to give credit where it's due
You're really acting in poor form right now and are coming off quite childish to me man... you need to relax all i want to do is talk hockey... I loved that series, i would have loved it if the flyers lost as well it was a great series...
As for not believe i bought a backstrom jersey well i'm not going to prove anything cause thats insane, don't beleive me, don't really care... but if the way you act is the way caps fans treat new and enticed hockey fans then F you and i'm losing intrest real quick... sorry for the slander

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Emery supposed to be a whack-job and a locker room cancer? Definitely not what we want in our harmonious dressing room.

Posted by: Orange Crushed | April 24, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

This stuff is getting out of control. I almost liked it back in october and november when all the bandwagoners weren't posting irrational comments on here and people could actually discuss things meaningful to the Caps, not whether or not this Jeff guy has a special place in his bed for Briere.

James D:

You talked about Vandermeer and i echo your thoughts. He is ok, but the Caps acquiring him would only be a lateral move. He tries to be tough sometimes, like his brother Dan. I mean granted he would be an upgrade over Jurcina...

Posted by: G-Rub | April 24, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Caps don't want Emery... he's like a disruptive football or Basketball player... See Allen Iverson or Chad Johnson for Ray Emery... I hope Emery gets chased out of the league like Robert Esche was... this is a game of respect, we don't need bums like him in the NHL

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I understand about Emery but if you don't sign Huet, who else has NHL talent and would not cost an arm and a leg? I don't like Emery either, just a hunch...

Posted by: NJ | April 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

it may sound stupid, but i'd rather go into the season w/ Johnny and Cassivi or Machesney than Emery being involved anywhere in the equation.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure most of us regulars to Capitals Insider welcome new "members" as long as they aren't trolls, make insightful comments ("your team sucks" and "Ovechkin dives" are NOT insightful comments) and make MOST of their comments about hockey, especially the Washington Capitals.

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Emery better not be in a Capitals uniform next year. I would rather have Brent Johnson be our starter.

I'm going to watch the MTL-PHI game tonight and pay close attention to how they handle physicality at the top of the crease and goaltender interference. Go Montreal!

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | April 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

@G-Rub
Vandermeer would not be much of an upgrade over Jurcina... I'm not being condescending but i think you guys should try and look up clips of him with the flyers this season... he coughs up the puck like Jurcina, misses checking assignments, and completly takes himself out of the play for some really questionable hits that usually costs teams goals... Keep in mind the flyers both aquired and traded him for a 6th Rounder... I'm interested to see if the Caps Chase after some of the more big name D men out there... the Kaberle's, Reddens, (I refuse to mention Campbell cause I think he's highly overrated at an NHL level)... does anyone know the cap situation?

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

As for a back-up to Brent Johnson, I'd be fine with bringing up Neuvirth or Varlamov for a little trial by fire.

But please, no Emery.

And please, resign Huet!

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | April 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

What if they were to sign some of their RFA/UFA forwards (possibly including Feds and Cooke) and then package in a few of them to trade for a goalie we are not even thinking about? No ideas who right now, I would have to think about it, but just a thought. We seem to potentially have a lot of forwards that we won't know what to do with.

Thoughts?

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

@Caps fan in CT
I think there won't be much of an attack on the goalie this series... Huet's weakness was traffic in front and keeping his head in the game and not the players on the ice... Price is as cool as dry ice in the noggin, he won't get rattled. I think high blocker is the way to go on him.
I don't think Ovie dived as much as flyers made it out to seem... I think that umberger foot on foot was questionable at best, but momentum does funny things on ice... Let's save the dive insults for Sidney and Savard

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Trying to change the topic...

If I had the keys to the organization.
Goalie Situation

Plan A
Huet - $4.5M X 5, paying him more in years 1, 2, 3 and significantly less years 3, 5... say $7M, $6M, $5, $2.5M and $2.0M, making his salary tradeable when either Varlamov or Neuvirth are ready.

Plan B
Try to sign Theodore to similiar contract.

Plan C
Trade some assets for Tim Thomas or Manny Fernandez, BOS also have Auld and Rask waiting to take over.

There is a short list of others worth trading for.

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

If we don't sign Huet, Theodore might be our only other option. We're in that tough situation of finding a good goalie in a year where the depth of goalies in the free agency isn't very deep. We really need someone to be solid enough to last until Neuvirth or Varlamov are ready.

Posted by: Bonzai | April 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

yo I just heard this crazy stat... Saku, is undefeated in game 7's... that's insansly scary

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, I think that was Caps Fan in TN, but no worries.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I love how everyone is all of the sudden GM/contract experts.

Posted by: Matt | April 24, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Whatever he wishes to do, I wish him all the very best. I was fortunate enough to meet him recently, and it was wonderful to meet such a legend. He has given so much to this team, and this community.

I hope to see you back next year Olie. If not, endless thanks to you for everything.

Posted by: Oliefann | April 24, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Theodore has played better this year ... but I'm not sure I'd want him for a long-term deal in Washington.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | April 24, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

@Matt

Its pretty easy Matt, all you really need is an opinion and the understanding of the english language.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@Jeff

"Huet's weakness was traffic in front and keeping his head in the game and not the players on the ice."

What does that mean? I thought Huet played pretty well ...

Sure, MTL's defense is better. But is Hartnell and Co. suddenly going to stop trying to plow the goalie over? I doubt it.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | April 24, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

We are fine with money. We have one of the cheapest teams right now. Unless Green is asking for something astronomical then we should be ok with whatever Huet, Feds and Cooke ask for. Clark and Pothier are still questionable according to one of the articles I read. Damn shame about those two guys.

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

New tribute video up on Washingtoncaps.com Dang near teared me up. LOL

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

How much is Conklin going to command? He's UFA as well.

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

That's the Olie I've always respected and admired adn cheered for! Thanks for the update Tarik.

Why wasn't it in the paper that Bruce had a long talk with Olie before the meeting and everything was fine? Maybe he was excused from the meeting after that discussion.

Posted by: Kolzigrocks | April 24, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

If I had the keys...
Forwards

RFA - Laich, Fehr, Gordon
UFA - Cooke, Fedorov, Bradley, Laing

Tender Offers
Laich $1.75M to $2.0M x 3
Fehr $1.0 to $1.25 x 3
Gordon - goodbye

UFA
Cooke - currently making $1.5M, offer small raise $2M x 3, do not over pay.
or
Fedorov - currently making $6.0, over $3M x 2.
not both
Bradley - goodbye
Laing - goodbye

Lines (assuming Fedorov)
OV/Nylander/Kozlov/Fehr
Semin/Backstrom/Laich/Fehr
Flash/Fedorov/Clark/Fehr
Brashear/Steckel/Bourque

Lines (assuming Cooke)
OV/Nylander/Kozlov/Fehr
Semin/Backstrom/Clark/Fehr
Cooke/Laich/Flash/Fehr
Brashear/Steckel/Bourque

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Conklin is a back up... that's all he is... giving him 50 games or starter money is a mistake.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't trust Conklin... I really think he just had an "above and beyond" year... he'll be back to 3rd stringer shortly.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Vandermeer is brutal.

And as far as Jeff saying Price is 'cooler than dry ice,'

I guess you didnt see him cough up the puck a couple times when he got pressured from the forecheck? At least 1 I can remember went into the back of the net.

Game 6 the Bruins attacked the crease and got Price off his game, so no, he is not cooler than dry ice. He is young and has a tendency to get rattled when a lot of pressure comes his way.

In Game 7, the B's did nothing they did in game 6.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Conklin can split time, thats about all he can do. I know he had a great year but I think it had a lot to do with the team in front of him.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

@GM JSchon

I think Laich is in for a decent raise. 2.5 for 4 years with 20 goal incentives. He stepped up as a leader I thought.

Posted by: SA-Town | April 24, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

If I had the keys

Defense

RFA's - Eminger, Green and Morrisonn

Tender Offers
Green $5.0 x 6
Eminger $1.5M x 4
Morrisonn $2.0M x 4

Trade Poti for draft pick(s) or cheap serviceable young player. Save $3.5M.

Assume Pothier retired (save $2.5)
Pairings
Green/Morrisonn R/L
Eminger/Schultz R/L
Alzner/Erskine/Lepisto/Jurcina L/L/L/R

Assume Pothier plays
Green/Morrisonn R/L
Eminger/Schultz R/L
Alzner/Pothier/Erskine/Lepisto/Jurcina L/R/L/L/R

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I would also offer Federov a $0 contract...Pay her "per point." He's done everything in the NHL...might as well go into like a sales job working for commission.

lol

Posted by: SA-Town | April 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

JSchon,

Looking at your plan C above, Manny has started 50+ only one season and low 40's in games a couple of times. I don't think he's the answer & who knows how expensive they'e make Thomas.

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

@SA-Town... You're right, I was tryong to low-ball Brooksy... Sorry Brooksy... $2.5M is fair.

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

If I were GM

I would convince Green to take a 2 yr contract worth around 2-3 mil a yr. With a promise to renegotiate after the 1st yr if he hits certain numbers. If he likes it so much here, he would take it. That is unless he is tendered another offer.

This way you can see what you have in him. He had a great year but man it would suck to tie him up in a 6-8 yr deal with 5-6 a yr and have him drop off drastically.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Fernandez and Huet are very similiar, the only difference is that MON is a better team than MIN. Huet hadnt played more than 40+ either, not because he cant, but because he had Theodore/Aebischer and Price as competition.

Fernandez had Rolosson. Fernandez was brought into BOS to be the #1. Thomas stepped in and played great. They now have 2 guys that want to be the #1.

We also forget that B.Johnson can play 20 to 30 games without a problem.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Just to remind would-be-GMs, bonuses aren't allowed for non-rookies. Unless they're 35 or over on a one year deal (hello, Fedorov).

Contracts can't be renegotiated either, only extended.

Posted by: tallbear | April 24, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

@James D

I think your low-balling the skill that Green shows on the ice.

He has gotten quite a bit of national press..first because of his stats...but second because he does some end to end rushes better then anyone in the league.

He is going to ask for Gonchar money, and he should get it. He really is going to be a big time threat. Lock him up...

We dont want to have to match anyone's offer. We need it done before the rest of the NHL has a shot.

Posted by: SA-town | April 24, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Huet is our goalie and I don't think we should think any other way right now.

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD

I want him signed up before July 1. I do not want anyone even sniffing the opportunity to offering him a contract. Low-balling him isnt going to work. He is a top 5-10 scoring defensemen, they all make $5M+... none of them skate like he does and none of them are 22 years old.

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD,

Hear you, but with the way Green attacks & if he's kept out there on most PP's, I'd be very surprised to see his numbers fall off. If anything, I'm guessing his assist totals are going to go up. Just a guess though.

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Tim Thomas can steal a game night after night. I would take him in a heartbeat but what would you trade?

LA is going to be in the goalie hunt big time this year, so expect them to throw a good offer at Huet. Being as it doesnt seem like he wants to stay in Washington, Id expect him to go there. Unless Ottawa makes a push for him.

If Olie does retire, that leave BJ, and like Schon said, he is a 30 gamer. As much as I dont like it, I could see GMGM going after Emrey, just because the actualy available pool isnt that deep.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Green skates with the ease and grace of a figure skater. He is worth the top 5 money.

Posted by: Leeguru | April 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree with everybody on Green. He deserves the big money. But watching the game as long as I have been I have seen my share of players drop off and never return to form.

Id want to be sure about that kid first. Sure he is the best skater and a top D man but. 1 great year doesnt give you a chance to compare stats. Id look for back to back solid seasons before the big money comes.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Greem will hear what other teams have to offer. I think a Canadian team would be the only offer he would consider.

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

BTW, im purely looking at this from an investment/GM pov. Not from as a fan.

I just want to get the most out of what I am buying is all.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

James, a couple years ago that might have worked...unfortunately, Green knows that if he doesn't get what he wants from the Caps he can wait until July 1st, sign a huge offer sheet from someone else and whether the Caps match or not he gets his money.

If Penner, a 2nd line sorta player got 4 mil a year from Edmonton last year (after playing essentially 1/2 a season and the playoffs), it's somewhat scary to consider what the defensive goal scoring leader could get.

Ultimately, if GMGM can get a deal done with Green in the 5 mil range, I think you have to do it.

Also, I don't think trading Poti during the off-season is the way to go. Because the D is still so young I think it makes sense to keep him around and see how the D looks before moving him. If Alzner (for example) shows he is ready to contribue by the trade deadline, you could get a lot for Poti then. I'm not sure how much you'd get for him in the off-season when there are other guys on the FA market.

Just my 2 cents..

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Poti, Lepisto and some goal pegs for Dan Ellis?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Ray as a Cap......... Who would woop his butt in practice?

LA has a ton of cap space too I think. But you'd be hard pressed to find a less European city in the US to live in than LA.

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Work break and I catch up with all the posts :D

@King Huet
You got to stop the insults to Olie. We got it, you hate him. Out of respect for him, and all of us actually that believe in something, you got to shut up. A few times you borderlined trolling and this is one of those time. Do you realize you sound like Chief sometimes?
And BY THE WAY: I like Huet but honestly you made me like him less - you seem like his manager or his b%%tch or something and I'm just tired of the commercials.

@Jeff
For whatever reason you didn't show up after we won game 6, then showed up for game 7. That looked bad.


@Boo
I'd like that too (Huet + Olie) but I don't think it's going to happen. If the wife ain't happy, nobody's happy - that might play a big role for Huet. However if he can convince her to stay one or two more years, temporarily, that might even worked out better for us :D

Olie... I think he might stay for another shot at #1. But honestly, not sure he has a full season + playoffs in him.

Posted by: mauree | April 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Emery I really don't think is that bad. He had a temper because he was fed up with Ottawa. New beginnings are just what he needs. He sure wouldnt take that abuse in the playoffs... But I agree, Huet is our goalie and I think he'll be here next year.

Posted by: KV | April 24, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The Penner deal was a joke but scary to think that will most certainly happen to someone this off season.

I know the Caps are well under the salary cap range, but Id hate to see them lock up a ton of money on a kid that had 1 good year.

I dont see his numbers dropping off but in lieu of everything else the team needs, if he really liked playing here, he could hold off on HUGE money for a yr so the team can lock up some other assets

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

We are at the worst possible crossroads with Green, contract ending, 1st great year...

Now is not the time to bluff. What makes Green, Green, is his skating ability. You dont lose that at 22 over a year period.

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If you guys are interested in looking at who are the free agent goalies for this upcoming season here's a list. It includes both Unrestricted and Restricted Free Agent Goalies:

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/freeagents.php?team=none&pos=G&status=none&type=none"

Posted by: Bonzai | April 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

JSchon,

"What makes Green, Green, is his skating ability"

The kid is a pretty good stick handler too.

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I wouldnt take Emery unless the D got revamped completely and was solid.

I could see Emery getting frustrated over lack of coverage. If some of the turnovers that took place against Philly took place in front of Emery, he would let everyone know how he felt.

Posted by: Tommmy | April 24, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

His skating ability makes him but his Defensive ability really lacks.

What if he ends up not scoring next year and is a -15

Then we have a bad defenceman who happens to be a minus player who wont score goals for 6 yrs and millions of dollars.

I know you dont want to play games with him and he is at the end of a contract, but I think a few million of those dollars can be spent elsewhere if he takes a lower contract for the next season.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I've seen quite a few Isles games this year. Wade Dubielewicz is actually a pretty good goalie. He stepped in for Dipietro a few times and looked quite sharp.

Posted by: Capies | April 24, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Agree Steve R...

you dont lose those skills overnight either...

get it done GMGM, before July 1

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Green, Laich, Semin, Backstrom, Ovechkin. They are the future of this team. They should never break them up.

Posted by: REDARMY | April 24, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Im just talking about his overall play dropping off, he wont lose his ability

But his play can drop off drastically. Id just want him to throw together 2 good yrs before he gets locked up long term.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

re: Green Damn hard shot & a great work ethic. I missed a chance to have Fedorov autograph his rookie card because I stayed to watch Green (& others) keep working after practice.

Posted by: uncatim | April 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD

What if Green decides he wants to be a girl?

My point is being an owner/GM is a risky proposition. You need to know when to roll the dice and when not too...

We've seen enough of Green to know he is at least a very good player...

The problem here is that the rest of NHL has too... And I'm sure there is a GM out there drooling to offer a young Paul Coffey a big contract.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I will admit I haven't seen nearly as much of Ellis as many eastern conference goalies...but if I am GMGM my plan of attack is:

1 -- do everything I can to get Huet signed before July 1st
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5 -- if no Huet by July 1st, go after Ellis with a sizeable offer
6 -- Theodore, but he'll be even more expensive than Ellis prolly
7 -- ummm...yuck?

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 24, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

JamesD, the best you can probably do with Green is maybe stay closer to 4 million by playing with years (more or less depending on how you look at it). Top D-men are hard to find and every GM is looking for it. You can bet Green will get offers and the NHLPA likely would lean on him not give the Caps a 50% discount.

Posted by: tallbear | April 24, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Im just playing devil's advocate here though.
Like I said, I agree. He should get the big money but I would hate to see if his play drops off and his numbers go down.

The Caps would be wise to lock him up as he SHOULD develop into what they want him to be, but one season is tough to say exactly which direction he is going to go.

Next year, if he starts playing terribly, everyone will be screaming for GMGMs head because he locked up Green for many years and a lot of money

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

@RedArmy

I also really like the way Steckel plays. He is big, and solid with the puck. Wins face-offs, and kills penalty's. I hope he stays for a long time.

Posted by: SA-Town | April 24, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

@ JMU Caps girl:

Are you hot?

Posted by: fansince74 | April 24, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I think you're wrong JamesD... about the fans getting all riled up by giving Green too much green.

If Green has a significant drop-off in production, say instead of 18-38-56, 9-19-28 for the next 5 years, it wouldn't be horrible but no one would blame GMGM for assuming the kid was going to at least stay at his current numbers. We're talking about a 22 year old not a 32 year old.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

@Mauree
I was severly hung over again, and sorta in the dog house with the lady cause i spent all week either talking hockey or getting drunk attending hockey... so we speant the whole day at the park, then shopping *gags*, then i did hw and went to bed at like 8 basically crashed... About game 6 Ovie stole the show for sure and the caps outplayed the flyers 5on5 badly... that 3 on 2 goal was a thing of beauty.
@caps fan tn
Huet played great, but going into the series it was well known if you crash the net on him he gets rattled and has a little bit of a weak 5 hole.
@James D
Price is 20, he's a kid pressure gets to kids, but for a 20 year old kid he's so cool under pressure. It's a strength of his... The boston team exposed only the fact that he's human... But you don't win a gold in juniors and mvp then got to the AHL and win th calder cup and MVP there too without being "as cool as dry ice in the noggin"... he's an economic goalie and moves well laterally, plus he's still above the crossbar when he goes into that butterfly so he's a big kid too... I think you're right though flyers need to get bodies in front of him, I just don't think that game plan will work out as well as in the caps series so i see the flyers trying a different approach should they lose the first 2 games.

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love Boudreau. He busts his butt every day for the Caps, gets rewarded with a new contract, and instead of taking a day off he goes to Hershey to help out the coaching staff there:

by TIM LEONE, The Patriot-News
Thursday April 24, 2008, 12:04 PM
Washington Capitals head coach Bruce Boudreau visited Giant Center this morning and reviewed game tapes of the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton series with Hershey Bears head coach Bob Woods.

The Bears held an optional practice and were scheduled to bus to Wilkes-Barre today in preparation for what they hope is a three-in-three weekend. Hershey, which beat WBS 3-2 in overtime Wednesday night to cut its series deficit to 3-1, is scheduled to play Game 5 Friday with (if necessary) Game 6 on Saturday and Game 7 on Sunday.

Woods said Josef Boumedienne (middle body) remains questionable for Game 5.

Posted by: tess | April 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

@Mauree
I was severly hung over again, and sorta in the dog house with the lady cause i spent all week either talking hockey or getting drunk attending hockey... so we speant the whole day at the park, then shopping *gags*, then i did hw and went to bed at like 8 basically crashed... About game 6 Ovie stole the show for sure and the caps outplayed the flyers 5on5 badly... that 3 on 2 goal was a thing of beauty.
@caps fan tn
Huet played great, but going into the series it was well known if you crash the net on him he gets rattled and has a little bit of a weak 5 hole.
@James D
Price is 20, he's a kid pressure gets to kids, but for a 20 year old kid he's so cool under pressure. It's a strength of his... The boston team exposed only the fact that he's human... But you don't win a gold in juniors and mvp then got to the AHL and win th calder cup and MVP there too without being "as cool as dry ice in the noggin"... he's an economic goalie and moves well laterally, plus he's still above the crossbar when he goes into that butterfly so he's a big kid too... I think you're right though flyers need to get bodies in front of him, I just don't think that game plan will work out as well as in the caps series so i see the flyers trying a different approach should they lose the first 2 games... but then again john stevens is the flyers coach and steve downie is playing again tonight... so who knows what that idiot will have this team doing

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

@ Mauree
I didn't get to see most of game 7 cause my head was down in the books but caught the OT winner, but believe me i think the caps out played them badly from what i saw in the highlights

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

@ Jeff

Im calling you out on your bs right now. You say you didnt seem most of the game because your head was down in the books???

These are you comments after game 7, doenst sound to me like you didnt see the game.
Its about time people here see you for what you are. A 'yes man' who really has no idea what he is talking about


"Caps lost... tough game guys... they outplayed the flyers most of this game and couldn't solve biron... biron go figure eh?
tough break though guys and a great series and great game... I think i need a heart transplant

I think the flyers won tonight on intangibles.... The game was somewhat even but the caps had the upperhand... the flyers ARE an opportunistic team and hit the post a bunch of times tonight which kept the game awkwardly close...

The officiating has sucked this entire series... flat out sucked, but yell at me all you want tonight was the best officiated game of the series... they let the players play tonight and in overtime that was a blantent trip... they let the kapanen trip go but the RJ trip poti shot his stick right into his legs... unfortunatly the flyers scored there

OV and the caps played their guts out and quite frankly i really thought the caps were gonna win this game tonight, but in the playoffs once you get into overtime anything can happen.

Huet didn't look sharp tonight
Anyone know what was going on with Green??? Did he hit the bars last night or something? That kid looked so out of place tonight? Please someone explain.

hey seriously though can anyone explain what went on with Green tonight? Is he hurt or something? Cause he played like he was hurt or sick or something? That was not the dominant Green I saw in the start of the series... I wonder if that Thorsen shot got to him perhaps?

Green looked to favor his shoulder a bit it seemed which would explain why he didn't shoot the puck... Maybe that Hatcher hit the other night hurt him, cause i haven't seen him blast the puck since..."

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh damn, you got served

Posted by: Tommmy | April 24, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD
I watched while doing H.W... like i said I saw the whole OT without putting my head down but mainly listened... when a team scored id for sure look up and see what happened... I saw all the main points of the game but couldn't give it my full attention
That looks like a good write up and evaluation of the game i think and that's why i wrote it... I'm not sure why that would be BS?

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

So first the game is evenly played but the caps had the upper hand and now the caps outplayed the flyers from what you saw on the highlights?

You didnt watch until you heard something happen but you watched closely enough to notice that Green wasnt quite right.

You didnt watch but you watched closely enough to create an opinion about the officiating and how it was the best in the series.

You are full of it. You didnt come on after game 6 because the Caps won and you couldnt kiss ass and you know people would jump on you.

Most of the things you have said on here, you have then said the opposite.

Jeff, face it..the gig is up..go home.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I mean i'm not going to break down this entire write up for you haha sue me i didn't get to give my full attention to the game... I had H.W. that i couldn't do during the day... I'm sorry I didn't mention that before i posted that?... but i'm pretty sure that was a safe assessment of the game... When i looked at the highlights and stats later on it seemed like the caps dominated the entire game so that post was more or less saying the main stuff about the game

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, just go away.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, the point is you have merely said things here to appease the masses. Seriously, stop playing fan and go home.

I could stomach your posts up until the whole it was like a dream speech. Thats when I starting to smell bs.

Your current posts solidify my suspicions.
Id rather have you here trolling around, at least then you wouldnt be pretending.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Oh no, now I have to Rock the Red with him tonight. Thanks everyone.

Posted by: Jeff's boyfriend | April 24, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

@JamesD
dude you're insane man... seriously insane... read what you are writing... I would have come on during the day if i was home and had the chance that night... I only came on for a little bit then went back to doing some hw... then came on after i did some more hw to say goodnight i believe... I mean if you want to talk to my gf I'd be more then happy to give you my phone number in private and you and her can go at it about why i wasn't allowed to talk hockey that day, although i'm sure that would only get me in more trouble... Green in the beg of the series was noticable, from WHAT I SAW he wasn't noticable the last 2 games including the game i went to... it's hard not to notice biron played great... everytime the announcers yelled id look up and he's making a really nice save... I saw all the goals cause id look up when the announcers would say goal and watch what happened... this isn't really rocket science man you have to realize that

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

No one likes a pretender, unless its lead singer in Chrissie Hynde...

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

You are full of if Jeff, you really are.
You gave your initial assessment not long after the game ended.

You've been called out, deal with it.

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Olie is a stand up guy. I remember when I was a kid I ask Olie for a stick if the Caps won a game against Bruins in the 97-98 playoff, sure enough I got all of Olie (3) sticks when they won in Boston, And got 11 game used sticks in total..

Posted by: Go SOX GO | April 24, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

So anyway, what's everybody think of Ellis? Flash in the pan or legit?

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

D.Ellis is a pretty good plan B option... he would be much cheaper than Theodore or Huet...

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

BUSTED

go to the Montreal boards and sing songs about saju koivu

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

JamesD = Angela Landsbury...

btw... How many strange deaths could one community have? I'd never move there... well maybe if there was a White Castle/DQ and Sheetz, I'd give it some consideration.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Thanks JamesD! My BS-ometer went off about a week ago.

Posted by: Harry | April 24, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

No problem Harry

You sell a salesman

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

^cant


i caught jeff's lack of grammar

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

MMMM - Chrissie Hynde

Posted by: uncatim | April 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Jesus, there some serious investigative reporting going on around here...

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Yes, there certainly is...

Posted by: Jesus | April 24, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Is there a Pulitzer for blogging?

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

How about this...

@ Jeff, thanks for the kind words about the team. Glad you enjoyed the series, and good luck as your Flyers move on. Now, although we appreciate your interest in the Caps chat here on Tarik's blog, you probably have more homework to do, dinner to cook, shopping to struggle thru, or a playoff series to watch. Spend some more time on those things...

@ JamesD, you've made your point... if you don't like what Jeff has to say, don't read it. There's no need wasting everyone's time w/ your rants on what you "think" about jeff and his comments about the caps, the series or anything else. Fortunately he's posted with his name each time he's wrote something on here... so start each post by checking to see who wrote it... if it's by Jeff, pass it by... I like the hockey chat on here, but listening to you lambaste him for the last 3 hours is not enjoyable to anyone.

tks.

Posted by: Scofield | April 24, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

this is all hilarious immature and garbage... I'm not going to waste my time directing this post, but seriously I'm a hockey fan... this is the first time i've ever encountered anything remotely like this... Just because I had to do hw while i was watching the hockey game doesn't make me any less of a hockey fan then someone else... and it doesn't give anyone else the right to act condescending towards soemone else... Seriously grow up and act your age... we're all hockey fans and people like that ruin it for the people that honestly just want to watch and talk about the game... I'm sorry I'm not an A-hole and appreciate the game and enjoy talking about it... I'm sorry I'm not a typical A hole that wants to trash talk and enjoyed this series so much that i wrote something nice about it... I guess i'm a nice guy I'm not trying to appeal to any massess... I came here cause i enjoyed watching the caps play and their team interested me... Just because I'm mainly a fan of another team doesn't give anyone the right to act like an arrogant condescending idiot like their above someone else... that crap belongs in the toilet and not in this sport... I've never treated another fan like this ever and I've never been treated this way in my life... forgive me for not wanting to sit behind a computer screen spewing out 3rd grade insults while obbsessing and accusing people when i'd much rather enjoy the game and talk about it... oh and please forgive me for having to do school work while I watched a hockey game and not being able to come on during the day cause I had to spend time with someone away from this computer screen... I'd eventually make it on here... sorry for not making the required time table... appealing to the masses? in my mind that's another word for non argumentitive, but i enjoy a good argument... when i'm on a hockey blog I'd expect a good argument about hockey... not this immature behavior taking place right now though... but you all keep up the good work, cause in the end it all makes sense right? It all works out and really is worth the effort you put fourth and the time. Not to mention it makes you look a whole lot less pathetic coming into a hockey blog and pointing fingers and accusing... I mean seriously I hate saying this, but you guys really need to get off my cock... that's someone else's job allready... (and I'm sure i'll hear immature insults after that comment too... grow up)

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

@gm j schon

see u r as clever as gmgm lAING IS SIGNED FOR NEXT YEAR SO U MAY HAVE TO RE THINK YOUR MOVES

CHECK
http://nhlsalary.globesports.com/NHLSalaryData/globe/team-Wsh-salary.html
IF U WANT RELEIABLE STATS

Posted by: wendel | April 24, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Damn, why didnt I have this for ammo against THE MAN when he was around...

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100199710>1=31017

Jeff, no offense, I'm sure your teeth are perfect.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

@moose33
hahaha I thought so... but i had to get two drilled the other day... I need to get out of this city with that stat, i'm catching their bad teeth i think

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

@wendel

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=WAS
this site says otherwise... both look pretty reliable... anyway... no big deal

Laing doesnt get a sweater unless there is an injury. He just offer enough to justify taken someone else out. Maybe if Hanlon was still here that would change, but under Boudreau, Laing doesnt get any PT with the big club.

So I dont actually need to change anything.

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

@Jeff

I said it "looked" bad - as in it was suspicious. You have to understand and look at it from our point of view: you were VERY active in this blog when the Flyers were winning. After game 6, nothing. Then after game 7, here you come again. Maybe I was wrong in sounding accusing but I hope you'll appreciate how it looked bad. We do not know you well enough not to be suspicious.

Anyway, I enjoyed talking with you - for what it's worth I do hope you'll stick around :D
Oh and sorry but tonight I'll cheer for the Habs. It will take more than a couple of days to wash out the bitterness of that loss.

Posted by: mauree | April 24, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

@wendel

was there any reason you were yelling at me? Did I offend you?
Or are you a Laing guy?

Posted by: GM JSchon | April 24, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Hiya all!

I read the posts and threw up in my mouth. I'm gonna go do a shot down at Grevey's to get the taste out. Happy Hour is a good thing.

Bye!

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | April 24, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

@Mauree
I can understand that... But i was on after the other games the flyers lost and posting away.
God you're killing me by cheering for the Habs... I've hated them sooo much since I first learned about hockey... Back in the Dougy Gilmore days... their franchise has enough championships and their city has enough aggorgance to go along with it...
I expect horrible officiating in this game all geared against the flyers, being canadian and now that there is only one canadian team left I think the Refs and the league want to keep at least one canadian team in the playoffs... plus the big bad flyers image will really come into play tonight, but i guess we'll see...
If someone can logically explain to me why John Stevens is dressing steve downie I'll give you 100$

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

@ Jeff

Sorry, dude, but I have to say that I am rooting for the Habs too. There is no way in hell I am rooting for the Flyers, ever again. Not with the way most fans portray themselves nor the way the team plays, not with the way this series was given to the Flyers, IMO.

@ Steve R,

Great article to read. I even posted a response on the comment section.


Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

more from our friend jeff

I know this sucks, but the guy is a poser

cook brash and brads can barley skate... theres a reason we let brash go we have a kid here named riley cote who was just called the toughest player in hockey by some guy named Georges LAraque. Ovie scares me he scores at will and i like that backstrom kid, but i have to admit to you guys people in philly have been through a lot of playoffs and like i said DEFEN"S"E wins games... your guys D doesn't really scare me.

well I'll leave you guys with this to think about and sorry i couldn't respond to you all. I'll be back on here whether the flyers are up in the series or down. If you aren't concerned with this teams O then you're ignorant why else would they finish #2 on the powerplay. This series will come down to team defense just as every playoff series seems to be. I think we'll all have a clearer picture of how this series will unfold after game 1. I really want you guys to think about this though... I am only one flyers fan and i managed to get under your skin pretty badly without saying anything too unintelligent. this is going to be a long series and philadelphia is a crazy place to play and an extremely intimidating environment. I believe ranked # 1 by vote of all NHL players. If we win only one game at your guys joint we take over home ice advantage... scary thought

careful with your comments guys i might have to bring in more dumb stupid ignorant philly fans here to start talking sense to you all. I'm not personally attacking any of you but if you guys don't want to talk hockey and just trash talk then coming from a filthy philly then let the games begin

It's a shame that ovie will waste his carrer in a city that barley understands the game of hockey. Ive been to washington... lots of homeless. Ovies carrer will be wasted in a city that will turn out less then 20000 people in a stanley cup parade. it's a shame. trash the city all you want i hate the city we have murders every night at least 3-4... As for cheese steaks i don't eat them never liked them. I'm more of a Subway guy myself, but back to hockey... which is what we should all be focusing on. It will be a damn good series between "america's sweethearts" and "the evil broad street bullies". Both sides like their chances, I like knowing that pitt feared us enough to purposly try to avoid us in the first round... even if you guys do make it past this series you'll do so with an very banged up bunch for sure

again i will reiterate that i thought maple leafs fans were dumb till i read this mindless garbage posted by you cap fans. I can't believe you think this is going to be a cake walk

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Jeff,
He is dressing Downie because Knuble is out. He carries more of an offensive upside than Cote does.

Downie can play 10-5 mins a game and create scoring chances. Cote can not

Now about that $100

Posted by: Tommy | April 24, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Jeff,

Now that is attacking us and the city of DC. Not cool.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

@Tommy
Telpeko?

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

James, man, give it up. You have a right to your opinion and that's fine, but you're obsessing about this a little bit too much and it looks pathetic. Why don't you focus your energy on something a little more worthwhile than what some blogger has written in the past.

Posted by: nhcaps | April 24, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Tolpeko,

you mean the guy who made the team on an unsigned tryout?

The one who got clocked a few months back and had a concussion and never hit the ice again?

Downie is physical. Teams shy away from him when he carries the puck.

He was on fire with Hartnell and Richards earlier in the year.

Posted by: Tommmy | April 24, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe you guys are giving this so much energy ...

Steve:
LOVED the article - thanks for sharing!! :-)

King Huet:
I hear what you are saying about Olie (not that I necessarily agree with all of it ...), but 'cancer' just seems a bit harsh.

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

nh

I just dont like people trolling around and acting like people's friends.

He trashed all of us and the city

Posted by: JamesD | April 24, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Boo!

Once again, you and I agree.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 24, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

post the comments before those james... I aimed those at individual people acting like "The Man" and Blank

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Jeff

My $100???

Posted by: Tommmy | April 24, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

@Tommy
And takes dumb penelties and is slow
Telpeko is fast talented and wins along the boards not to mention he won't take penelties against a talented PP... I dono I question a lot of Stevens Choices I think he makes a lot of dumb ones...

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

@ja schonn

yes i am a Laing guy
and it was bb that called him up not hanlon
get your facts right or run the risk of being yelled at when u say dumb stuff

Posted by: wendel | April 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Tolpeko has 1 goal.

Downie has what, 6 or something?

He isnt as slow as you think. He creates space on the ice. He takes penalties but he creates room and is an agitator.

Posted by: Tommmy | April 24, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

allright I have to shower... I'm pissed open hockey was cancelled today, but at least i got to waste all my time not talking about hockey right?
I'll try and get on later tonight after the game... I have to fill out some surveys online for class afterwards anyway so i'm sure i'll make it on somehow or another

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

@Tommy
If he scores tonight or/and has an impact other then negative I swear when i work in the summer I'll get you 100$ somehow. Maybe when I make it up to a caps game next season

Posted by: Jeff | April 24, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

@wendel

Figures...
Go ahead and call me out and yell if you must...
it really doesnt bother me...

Laing still isnt playing next year unless someone gets hurt.

Posted by: JSchon | April 24, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

CT:
I must say, I nodded ALL the way through your 2:22 post! :-D (Oh, and I will also never cheer for the Flyers - this round is all about the Habs and the Rangers in the east!!)

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

That's fine, but it's just sort of like, you're doing all this digging but for what really? I'm just trying to calm you down a little...no need to get too worked up about it.

Posted by: nhcaps | April 24, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Jeff, don't bother coming back on - we really don't care what you have to say.

Posted by: MikeR | April 24, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Kolzig is overrated as a player and as a good teammate. He shows up his teammates on the ice by breaking his sticks anytime he thinks defensemen made a mistake. The guy is a terrible goalie, he has a good game and then he gets a free pass for the next 10 game. It felt great not worrying about a SOFT GOAL every time an opposite player shot at our goal when Huet was the goalie. I don't buy his excuse for not showing up, and as a matter of fact I liked his absence. I hope Huet stays. HIP HIP HUET!

Posted by: CapsEnforcer | April 24, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm just curious what James means by "barley skate". Is that some sort of skating on grains, or a ray crusted in barley, or what.

I guess I'm glad we didn't win. Dealing with all the unemployed Penguins fans might have been worse.

Posted by: old time hockey | April 24, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Capies is right - that www.washcaps.com tribute video is a real tear-jerker (snif*snif). Yup, our boys done good.

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

@Boo!
Yep nice video... what a season :)

@828

Hey is that you as the ultimate warrior in the tribute video?

Posted by: mauree | April 24, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Don Cherry is a total donkey.

Posted by: Steve R | April 24, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mauree | April 24, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Glad the Wings are up, not so happy about the Flyers ... they must be treating Price like a wide receiver.

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Habs goal under review.

Posted by: mauree | April 24, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

thanks mauree, I was just going to ask if anyone had it.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 24, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I was feeling kind of down about all of the same things until I started reading the Jeff vs. the world banter. Nothing like shooting someone down on the internet:

http://xkcd.com/386/

I'd rather talk about Caps hockey (note the Caps part) than have to skim over 30 posts of back and forth banter about NOT Caps hockey.

Here's to a great season, and hopefully GMGM can get some work done in the offseason to fill the holes in this team.

I forget who said it, but one of the Caps once said you need 3 centers to build a team around (think it might've been Fedorov). With Backs, Fed, and Nylander, No one could make the claim we don't have that... Get going on that George!

Posted by: Raber | April 24, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

@JSchon

On Huet fatigue: Having played the position, I think it is more so how many consecutive games played than how many total. A single day off goes a long way for a goalie. That being said, I don't think Huet was tired at all.

Posted by: Cap423 | April 24, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

@Raber

Thanks for that link man, I love it. The author is a physicist, some jokes are even funnier to me (I'm a physicist too).

Posted by: mauree | April 24, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

mauree - no, that was not me...

Posted by: 828 | April 24, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the Flyers are winning ...

mauree:
You must be a smarty pants.

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

guess the flying nipples won?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 24, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

MTL Tied it up!!!

Vengeance Later - Golf Now

Posted by: 828 | April 24, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Habs just tied it up - OT.

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

828:
We should go to Philly so that you can use your sign! :-) But would we wear Caps sweaters or Habs sweaters?!? I suppose we could split it down the middle and wear a Huet sweater ... ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I've got to say, I only saw 1/2 a game but from what I saw the Flyers were playing really good. You could see they learned a lot from our series. The Habs were lucky to tie it.

Posted by: mauree | April 24, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I thought the wings were playing Hasek - when did they start playing Osgood?

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Boo! - that would be interesting!!!

Osgood started game 4 or 5 and has been winning ever since.

Posted by: 828 | April 24, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh Boo!, I left my sign at my seat... :( still bitter than I didn't hold it up... just didn't want to jinx it... and look were that got me.

Posted by: 828 | April 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

MTL won in less than a min... haha - how does that feel?

Posted by: 828 | April 24, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

828:
Awww ... :-( So you left it there with your dog, huh? That's a bummer. Next time you'll know better ... and you won't give your sign to a Flyers fan!! ;-)

mauree:
Thanks for the clarification RE: Osgood.

SO happy that the Wings AND the Habs won!!! :-D

Posted by: Boo! | April 24, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh for cripes sake, give the kid a break, James D.!

Yeah, he roots for the Flyers, but he also is a hockey fan and is (somewhat) impartial, gives credit to us and them where appropriate.

Go le Habs!

Posted by: Greg S. | April 24, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I hear what you are saying about Olie (not that I necessarily agree with all of it ...), but 'cancer' just seems a bit harsh.

Well, yeah, hyperbolized a bit... :)

I am happy too that Habs won, I think they shouldn't underestimate Flyers. I loved how Habs d-men were protecting Price, this should be shown to Caps d-men. I loved when Komisarek hit Upshall behind the net after the whistle, luckily Flyers didn't score on PP, but now Upshall would be careful. Bully the Bullies... And then Harmlik also almost knocked him out. I wish Caps would play like this. But they are young, they'll learn.

Posted by: King Huet | April 24, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from work all day...
You guys are ridiculous.

@ fansince74, If you've really been a fan that long, assuming you weren't a toddler, I'm young enough to be your daughter.


Who else is excited for next season???

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 24, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Godzilla will rise again!!

Punch Jagr in the face!!

Posted by: OlieFan | April 24, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

To bloggers above (don't know who posted what...)

1) Oatsie never missed a team meeting. He did hold out for one day after he was traded to Washington. We lost to the Islanders that night and missed the playoffs by 2 pts. Wasn't it Nikolishin that blew off a final team meeting a few years ago?

2) We're not off the hook on Jagr yet. He fell short on the goal and point totals needed but, like Tarik said, if he wins a "major" award - like the Conn Smythe - his option kicks in. So far, I'd say he's not having a Conn Smythe run...

3) I love the post about retiring Maruk's #21! MARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK!!!

Posted by: tokyo fan | April 24, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Well, looks like things have gotten rather interesting today.
A lot of bad blood. It like the comraderie wore off. And whats this about people posting with made up names? No anonymous presences on the internet? You'd think the Caps were swept in the first round or something. Thank god for Montreal, eh? Les Habitant have my full support.

Posted by: oo7 | April 25, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and Oats skipped the meeting after Wilson benched him and the Caps lost the game/series. He was Captain at the time.


Posted by: oo7 | April 25, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

I don't remember Oatsie blowing off a team meeting (and I sure don't remember him being benched) but I'll take your word for it. Oatsie was a tremendous player (as was Maruk!)

I don't want Jagr to have any points this series but I sure can't pull for the Pens, either. Let's hope Montreal can go to the finals.

Posted by: tokyo fan | April 25, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Is it wrong to pull for a team from another conference? Theoretically speaking, let's say the team I love gets eliminated. I would normally default to a number of teams that I have picked out at random times during the past years and cheer for them. But they're all gone/were never in it to begin with. Being Canadian myself, I could cheer for the Habs, but that would mean cheering for the same team as my brother, which I can't do on principle/can't win money off of. Can't cheer for Philly or the Pens, for obvious reasons, although I agree with whoever said Malkin was fun to watch. I could cheer for the Rangers since they're the only EC team left I haven't eliminated and I think Avery is hilarious in his own very special way, but Jagr's there, and we don't want him winning the Conn Smythe, now do we?
There's really no team in the conference I'd feel completely comfortable camping with for the rest of the playoffs.
So who do I cheer for? Am I a traitor to my team if I cheer for a team not in their conference or does it make me less of one?
decisions, decisions.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 25, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

@capsgirl,

I'm rootin' for the Sharks. I've always liked Ron Wilson and Tim Hunter when they were here, and their speedy style is fun to watch.

I would love to see the Sharks and Habs in the finals with San Jose hoisting. No need to explain anything babe, just go with it ya know?

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | April 25, 2008 4:49 AM | Report abuse

from today's Post: Montreal began a power play in the Flyers' zone with 1:09 remaining after Philadelphia's Mike Richards was sent off for kneeing Kovalev.

One thing I like about the Caps is that their costly dumas penalties tend to be hockey penalties like hooking and (sigh) tripping, instead of dirtbag penalties like kneeing and spearing. How come no-one criticizes the Flyers for throwing garbage (Briere, Richards, Hartnall) on the ice?
Go Habs Go!

Posted by: redlineblue | April 25, 2008 6:29 AM | Report abuse

redlineblue:
HA! That's funny! :-D

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Recomendation for next year.

Get with some friends, or even strangers on craigslist and split a season ticket package.

It will be well worth it. Your basically looking at half price for tickets in the upper level.

Dont forget that you can call and get more at the same discount price for any game. There are legit advantages to being a season ticket holder..(Trade in's for unused)

Anyway...dont bother with a 10 game package. Get 4 other's and get season tickets...

There are people only interested in week-day games too, if you are a weekend fan. Some may work in D.C, and live in Woodbridge..They would rather go to a game after work then sit in traffic...

GO CAPS...ROCK THE RED NEXT YEAR!!!!

Posted by: SA-Town | April 25, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

SA-Town:
I agree - being a STH is the way to go, and with the deep discounts it is not as expensive as people think, especially if you split. With the Caps now exploding, finding splits is not as difficult as it used to be.

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm not a fan of the trash that was thrown on the ice, but it's not like this is the first time this has happened in Washington. I believe when we lost to TB or one of those games in the playoffs - bottles were thrown onto the ice... then, they said - no more bottles! Well, the bottles came back.
Like I said, I'm not a fan of throwing stuff on the ice, however, it's not like we haven't seen it before here in Washington.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

String theorist, mauree? LOL! That was a good link, Raber. Thanks.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 25, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BearsWoooo | April 25, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

BearsWoooo -- That is pretty cool. In for Boumedienne?

Posted by: uncatim | April 25, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

@Greg
hehe no I'm more of an experimentalist.
But I'm also a programmer, the jokes on linux and python cracked me up (and I don't think many understands: "sudo make me a sandwich lol)

Season's over and over 330 posts lol... I was looking at the 2006 Tarik's blog, kinda funny... not as popular as this year huh?

Posted by: mauree | April 25, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

We're all just bandwagon-jumpers. Tarik really turned it on this year, so we came out in droves.

Posted by: Jordan | April 25, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

That's cool about Alzner. I wonder if he's already in Hershey: I know their next game is tonight.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | April 25, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I read that article - said he turned the offer down. Alzner is sick and his body aches... if they come out of that round, he will play. Maybe I read it wrong.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I discovered blogging 3 months ago...

Posted by: JSchon | April 25, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Christopher Columbus discovered America 516 years ago.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

828 -- I thought it meant he was tired & banged up but ready to go if needed. It was kind of hard to understand. I guess I should learn Canadian.

Posted by: uncatim | April 25, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Al Gore invented the internet while taking a dump, and using half a roll of tp, in 1987.

Posted by: JSchon | April 25, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Alzner:
"I thought about it for a little bit, but every bone in my body aches and I'm fighting a bit of a flu bug or something, so I'm really not feeling that well," the Calgary Hitmen's all-star defenceman said as he cleaned out his locker during the noon hour at the Pengrowth Saddledome.

"Right now, I'm just trying to get everything out of my mind, relaxing and wanting to clear off all the thoughts that I have."

If Hershey can find a way out of its 1-3 playoff hole, Alzner said he'd be ready to go, but you can bet the unsigned nominee for Western Hockey League top defenceman and player of the year awards will be in the Capitals organization for the start of next season.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

BearsWoooo - didn't mean to piss on your chips. I wish Alzner was playing too!

In 1928, Sir Alexander Fleming discovered Penicillin by eating moldy mushrooms trying to get high.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I'd bet a Western Sizzler meal that Alzner starts for the big club next year and never sees a HB uniform.

Posted by: JSchon | April 25, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I discovered that I'm lazy in 1992, and very lazy years later.

Posted by: JSchon | April 25, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I'll take that bet, but raise a Ponderosa Buffet meal and say that Alzner will play a few games in a HB uniform - whether it's before he wears a Caps uniform or after.

I don't think he will be playing for Hershey this year unless they comeback from their 3-1 series.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

in 2008, I discovered that I hate Philly more than Buffalo or Pittsburg...


(this is almost like pop-up video)

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

I love Ponderosa...

Top 5 really good bad restaurants

1. Ponderosa
2. Western Sizzling
3. Cracker Barrell
4. Stuckeys
5. Shoneys

Posted by: JSchon | April 25, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

In 2008 I learned that I STILL hate Philly more than anybody.

Posted by: uncatim | April 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Cracker Barrel is the BEST!!!!

You could also add The Sizzler to that list - possibly even Waffle House.

Ponderosa is like Bob's Big Boy... never got into it.

I could eat Craker Barrel all day long - country fried steak!

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Ted was on Eliot this morning and said they allowed Olie to duck out early after Tuesday's loss "to avoid the reporters and make sure the focus wasn't all on Olie." (at least, that's what my husband sent me). And that Ted wants Olie back if Olie wants to come back-interpret that as you wish.

Ted also said Greenie WILL be signed.

Posted by: Birdie | April 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

@Tokyo Fan- Oats was sat on the bench for the 3rd period and was livid about it. Johansson (sp?) was also sitting a lot that period. It was an ugly loss and that was the last we saw of Oats in Washington. WIlson is of course the coach of San Jose where things have been going very well. Most of the Caps players hated Wilson, especially Reekie.


Posted by: oo7 | April 25, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Can someone explain why Olie's locker nameplate is for sale on ebay?

username = ZillahateGMGM

Posted by: The Plot Thickens | April 25, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

My take...

TL: Olie, we want you back. Here is your offer. 1yr $600,000.00

Olie: Breaks hockey stick over $6,000.00 credenza.

TL: Is that a no?

Posted by: JSchon | April 25, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

TL= Olie, we would like to have you back...3 year deal for $20 an hour running around in a Godzilla mascot suit. You will have access to the team dressing room.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

RE: Alzner Question

If Alzner were to play for Hershey (whether tonight or next round) would he have to be officially signed and under contract by the Caps?

Posted by: Grape8 | April 25, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

@Grape8

Yes... but its a standard rookie contract... nothing major... similar to Backstroms.

Posted by: JSchon | April 25, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

@JSchon - Thanks.

I wasnt sure if the contract issue would prevent him from suiting up for the Bears quickly. If it is a standard rookie contract then it is just a matter of when he signs, not what he signs (meaning little or no negotitations).

Posted by: Grape8 | April 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Yes, that is true grape... I mean there a bit of negotiations... but the contract should be for about $900,000.00 per year, or less.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the front office SPIN is on this Board again!

Posted by: Docpuck | April 25, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

The Caps should consider talking to Dan Ellis. I think he is happy in Nashville, but with the new Kettler, and Ovechkin...and our upside...maybe he would listed.

Ellis is younger, and it would make more sence to give him a longer contract then Huet.

Posted by: SA-Town | April 25, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

007
How do you know most of the players hated Wilson? Do you work for the team?

Posted by: Docpuck | April 25, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Goaltending

This promises to be one of the most challenging situations facing the Predators.

Dan Ellis came out of nowhere to capture the starter's job and wound up leading the league in save percentage. He was especially strong down the stretch and in the playoffs, showing an ability to elevate his game under pressure.

Ellis could become an unrestricted free agent if he's not re-signed by the end of June, and it would be hard to believe the Predators would just let him walk after this season's performance.

But there are complications.

Chris Mason is under contract for the next two seasons and, unlike in the NFL, NHL teams can't just cut players and stop paying them. In addition, talented prospect Pekka Rinne appears ready for the NHL, and he won't be able to be sent down to Milwaukee without clearing waivers next season.

So assuming the Predators do re-sign Ellis -- and figuring out what kind of contract he'd get based on one great year would be another challenge -- would the Predators try to trade Mason or even consider buying out his contract?

Might they start next season with three goalies on the
roster?

There doesn't appear to be a simple solution.

Posted by: From the Tennessean | April 25, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

But what would I do with my Huet t-shirt?

Nah, I think Ellis would be a good choice in the unfortunate event that Cristobal splits. He's a quirky character.

http://www.vimeo.com/854330

Posted by: Jordan | April 25, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 25, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I don't really expect Ellis to get to UFA. Should Huet decide DC isn't the place for him, and Ellis IS signed...Mason might not be the worst option out there to trade for.

I'd certainly take Mason over Emery. And while Mason didn't have a great season his career save % is over 91% and he has almost the perfect contract of 3 mil for the next 2 seasons. You'd like to think that by 2010 one of the goalies in the system would be ready for the big time. And if one of them was ready in 2009 then you'd have an expensive backup in Mason, but certainly a good insurance policy if you are relying on a rookie to carry the load.

Again, Mason isn't a first choice, and probably not a 2nd choice either, but it seems to me he could be had for pretty cheap if the Preds are able to sign Ellis.

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

jmu capsgirl -- That's funny!

Posted by: uncatim | April 25, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

So now Olie is accused of selling items on Ebay. That's beautiful! Don't you guys have some scouting reports to collate? Remember, three hole punch on the right side of the page. DO NOT STAPLE! You better close the windows boys, the winds are picking up and your House of Cards is in jeopardy! Again, simply Beautiful! How pathetic is it where people make false accusations about other people to try and salvage their position. Oh well, turn the lights on and the Cockroaches Scatter!

Posted by: someone else who knows | April 25, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I have a response..

What?

Posted by: Jordan | April 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

This pretty much sums up everything...

http://pheadsthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/04/kolzig-baby.html

He was never comfortable when Glen Hanlon left. He was called out by the new coach that never coached a day in the NHL, suddenly his workload was much more and the back up, Brent Johnson, was getting better numbers. Kolzig was caught in a situation where he wasn't "the man" anymore.

Kolzig was entitled to that starting position, after all that he did for the organization. But, to be honest, all he did was lose for the last 5 years. Everyone assumed is numbers dropped because of the what was in front of him, a young inexperienced defensive core. But with Johnson performing better, it made it hard to justify what was going on with him.

Then the biggest insult. On the last year of his contract, a contract he signed knowing full well they may not get to the playoffs for another two years beyond it, they traded a pick for a goaltender with better numbers. Three's Company.

Kolzig improved when the trade happened, he's no dummy, he had to. He knew he would be sharing time with Huet and if he didn't produce he would sit. He was doing alright, he raised his goals against average up almost a full percentage point. He was big in net, just like the old days. There was always a part of me though that saw him try too hard, his competitive spirit was getting in the way of getting the job done. When an opponent against him, his negative attitude radiated amongst the team.

That's when Chicago happened. 5-0. It was the nail in the coffin. He couldn't compete with Huet's goal a game. He just let 5 goals past, and 3 of them seemed soft. Kolzig never got another start in net. Not that the fans or the coaches or management wanted it to end that way.

Removing the nameplate, walking out of the building silent and just going home. That was his response to an incredible Capitals' season. I am sure if he had talk to reporters, what he had to say couldn't be repeated in civilized conversation. He's upset, hurt, and bitter.

But what he fails to realize is the fans still love him. There were more Kolzig jerseys at game seven than Huet. There was more sympathy for him in this town, Kolzig was still King?

Posted by: King Huet | April 25, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Re: Alzner

Here's an item from John Walton's Bears Blog:
I've gotten questions today via e-mail about Karl Alzner, last year's number one pick of the Caps. Alzner's season ended this week with the Calgary Hitmen, and Washington wanted him to play for the Bears this evening. Only one problem. He's down with a flu bug and won't be able to make the game tonight. A bad break, because it looked like he would be joining the team later today.

Posted by: tess | April 25, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I like it!

"If you are going to be a Caps fan, you are going to have a lot of days like these."

Hopefully, that will change!

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jordan | April 25, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Tess -- Thanks Tess.

Posted by: uncatim | April 25, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"It was a reaction to the penalty and that all of the sudden the season was over," Williams said. "It's surprising because our fans have not done that before. We reacted as best we could."

It happened before - a couple of years ago when we played Tampa Bay in the playoffs... nothing new.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

@Jordan

In some Slavik towns it can be considered a sign of respect and gratitude to throw trash after a game.

No big deal.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Reading that Leonsis apologized to the Flyers for such a minor incident made me want to throw up. Hundreds, if not thousands, of Caps fans have had beer thrown on them, been spat upon, verbally abused and worse when in Philadelphia rooting for the Caps. They are all waiting for their apology from the Flyers. The Caps, as an organization, are far too obsequious and are constantly taken advantage for it. They need to toughen up.

Posted by: Joe | April 25, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I agree Joe.

The only apology they should get is..."Im Sorry that your from Philly."

The Habs fans dumped beer on Richards last night. That would be a nice tradition, if every city that played the Flyers dumped beer on one player at some point during the game.

Kind of like the Octopus in Detroit...only better.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

If Flyers would win fair and square, fans would just leave, but because of injustice they wanted to send a message... too bad it was Carter, not referees or Bettman.

Guess what, Koharski and Devorski were on top of the refs list for round 2. NHL says "great job!"

Posted by: King Huet | April 25, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Docpuck- no i don't work for the team. Working for the team and posting info here would be highly unprofessional, to say the least. I knew people in the org back then and it was pretty much common knowledge amongst the media folk and regulars that the majority of players ended up hating Wilson. He was let go for a reason; he lost the team and it wasn't because his system is flawed. He's a good coach, as San Jose's record proves. He was a wanker. I believe Kornheiser (that dolt) called him "Ole Yeller" and noted it was time for him to go. After he got fired of course. Kornhole likes to state the obvious as if it was his opinion all along, so he appears right.

Either way, Wilson was not a player favorite and benching Oats and Johansson in the 3rd period of a make or break playoff game didn't win him any new fans.

Posted by: oo7 | April 25, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

@828,

"In 1928, Sir Alexander Fleming discovered Penicillin by eating moldy mushrooms trying to get high."

Did it work? Or just clear up his VD?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

@12:01 post,

Yeah, I saw the beer dump in the Habs game too. How come the Habs fans don't get crap about that? So much for the "knowledgeable" fans knowing how to react.

I agree with the earlier post about splitting season tickets. Although I live in CT, I am doing that with 3 others and I will come down for weekend games next year. Can't wait!

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 25, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

throw trash where appropriate..in containers, on the side of the road and on flyers fans but spare the professional athlete from Philly because they are the epitome of class (see R. Hextall).

Posted by: moving on | April 25, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Cheif, you have any thoughts on what goalie GMGM should be proactive and go after?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Green needs to heal too...


Sun Media has learned defenceman Dion Phaneuf has turned down an invite to play at the tournament.

A spot was being held for him, and will likely be filled by Washington's Mike Green or Shea Weber of the Nashville Predators.

Forwards Jarome Iginla, Alex Tanguay and Matthew Lombardi were all candidates, but all their wives are pregnant. Team Canada has filled 14 forward positions.

Phaneuf apparently wants to heal from the physical first-round playoff series with the San Jose Sharks that ended Tuesday.

Posted by: King Huet | April 25, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Cheir, any thoughts on changing the jerseys for next year?

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

@ King Huet

Let it go bud... The call in OT was legit, truthfully they should've called Erskine, that was blatant.

it sucks... i hate losing that way and i'm still somewhat sick to my stomach when I think about it being over for another season after such an amazing run... but to continue complaining about the refs is just lame.

if you wanna complain about officiating, go w/ this. In the "new nhl" the refs weren't supposed to put the whistle away at any point, 1st period or triple OT. that was one of their main points during all the rule changes.

Posted by: Scofield | April 25, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

someone put the f in Cheif

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

ok, "legit" ufa goalies who are maybe's?

ellis
huet
theo

who else wouldn't involve a trade?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Is Ellis the next Bryzgalov? Sheesh....

Posted by: dave | April 25, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

@828
good bet re alzner. schon doesnt understand that there is a difference between playing defence in the dub and in the nhl. Look at the errors our young d still make.... enjoy your meal

Posted by: wendel | April 25, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Dave,

He's ufa and the Caps are without a #1 goalie at this moment. You have a goalie thought?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Steve R...

Laing?

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Someone posted a similar link yesterday, but here is a list of UFA goalies. We'd better hope Huet stays, because otherwise it looks like a trade will be necessary.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/freeagents.php?team=none&pos=G&status=ufa&type=none

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 25, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I think we go in this order...Huet should be top priority, unless there is something we dont like about his attitude. Nothing seemed to show he was anything but a quiet, team player.

1) Huet
2) Ellis
3) Theodore
4) Screwed

I would love to see Olie or B. Johnson back as backups, but Im not sure how excited they are to "Rock the Red"

Ellis has the best chance of wanting to stay. Theodore is there with Budaj who is a good goalie. Colorado may want to free some spending on Theodore.

Posted by: Goalie list | April 25, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

b johnson is under contract and will be hear although probably not reaaly liking his bs treatment by gmgm
but he has company in emminger and laing
who also got shafted by gmgm
we will see if gmgm is as good as everone on this blog says or will he fail to get the big names due to his poor personel practices and sign slugs like kozlov, motko,clymer etc etc

Posted by: wendel | April 25, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

christ, by far the worst thing is that we dont get 3 updates a day, more like 3 a month, this suuucks.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

You know - I was just thinking... Caps management may be looking into getting the VC ice fixed or better prepared for next season. Had the ice had been better - who knows, maybe the outcome would have been different. I just know - that last game, the Caps were falling everywhere.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

How did Laing get shafted by GMGM?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

How did Emminger get shafted. Up until the playoffs, he couldn't compete... the playoffs, he showed that he could. The best players play - this isn't "show friends", this is "show business".

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I was just over at the Habs blog and the flyer trolls are so angry that the refs gave them the game last night. HA! Isn't that rich!

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 25, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Check this out. Keep it clean if you comment. Its shared with a 6 year old.

http://caps423.blogspot.com/

I don't feel like writing it twice.

Posted by: Caps 423 | April 25, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 25, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

COULDNT COMPETE?
how do u compete if u aint in the line up
if u aint going to play a guy send him to hershey or put him on waivers so he can at least play
decide if a guy is worth it or not sitting him in limbo does no one any good
did johnson get better sitting for 2 months
gmgm need to get the balls to move guys if he doesnt want them
Check out what he promised ben clymer and never gave him
the guy is a rat and will fail miserably as gm this summer when he doesnt get a 1st string goalie signed

Posted by: wendel | April 25, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

@ CT Capsfan

It's definitely a hoot seeing them whine about the refereeing:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=404234

Posted by: longtimecapsfan | April 25, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

@ wendel

If I recall correctly, he did try to trade Emmy and either Olie or Johnson at the deadline, but he did not get any good offers. He was smart to not give them away for nothing.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 25, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't see any of the guys you mentioned that truely IMPRESSED anyone but you.

Like I said, this isn't - let me hold your hand and walk you through it... other guys stepped up and they played - why is that so hard to understand?

Chief, is that you?

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

@ longtime,

Yep, and after they lose this series in 5 games, they will be out too. Love their "good luck next year". How about good luck the next 10-15 as we take over the league.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 25, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Wendel,

At least Cheif's rants are readable. Could you try a little punctuation?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

This isn't the NFL in which you can cut someone and not have to pay their salary... so, what else was GM supposed to do?
They guys are getting paid 1 mil a year right? I'd say that was a good year then, for them. Bottom line, why should they play when other people are playing better? Why not start Motzko over Ovechkin... Motzko is a good guy.

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Wendel...please get your facts straight.

You claim that we should check out what GMGM "promised ben clymer and never gave him". Except Clymer went through waivers and nobody claimed him. Perhaps that's reflective on Clymer's lack of talent that nobody wanted him. GMGM did what he said he would.

And why would ANY GMGM give away assets of his organization? If he tried to slide Eminger or Johnson thru waivers, obviously someone could take them for free. Why Eminger did or didn't play during the regular season doesn't matter...due to injuries he was needed in the playoffs. Personally, I'd rather have an experienced NHL player ready to come in and play 15+ minutes a game rather than call up a guy who had a handful of NHL games in his career.

And yes -- I'd say wendel and Chief are the same person, except wendel at least provides (incorrect) reasons for attacking GMGM.

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 25, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Wendel's been calling for Laing to get playing time for weeks now. He just won't give it up and now he holds a grudge against GMGM.

Posted by: Bonzai | April 25, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

If he wanted Laing to get playing time, shouldn't he be compaining about BB?

Or wait, that's right...obviously the GM is controlling whether a 3rd or 4th line player (who essentially only plays on the PK anyhow) gets a jersey each night. Makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

@Scofield

I am the last one to complain. I am just saying why the fans were throwing stuff on ice. If Flyers had won fair and square, there would NOT be anything, people would leave in silence, hiowever they felt that they were being robbed.

And if you are saying that Kapannen goal was good, I rest my case.

Even Flyers Coach said "if I were Caps fan, I'd be upset".

Guess you know more than anybody else.

Here's the quote:
"If that had happened to us, I'd be upset, too," Holmgren said.

Posted by: King Huet | April 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

MIDGET can take the credit for acquiring Clymer, another simple example of how poor judge of talent he is.
That list is very long.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

@ bonzai
You are absolutely correct.Is that ok for me to be like that? Thanks for being so understanding.I hope it is okay to have strong feelings about players and team officals and give them on this blog. Even though Jeff thinks his reasoning is always right and everyone else's isnt

Posted by: wendel | April 25, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Chief, yep OV, Semin, Green, Fed, Cooke, Huet, Backstrom, etc.

All bad talent selections.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 25, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Atta boy Chief, thanks for contributing to the conversation.

Any thoughts on goalie?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Brooks Laich sucks too...

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

In mother Russia we have phrase for people like Chief. We call it "Bag of Douche".

Posted by: Alex Ovechkin | April 25, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

anyone notice how Chief and wendel post pretty close together... check out their timestamps?

Interesting... very interesting...

Posted by: 828 | April 25, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Wendel, mostly I just think you, Chief, and someone else who knows are consistently wrong and enjoy pointing out of your sound use of "logic".

Do I question other people's comments/opinions sometimes? Sure...that's kinda the point of this blog.

Posted by: Jeff (DC) | April 25, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Add a few guys like:
Mironov, Henry, Doig, Doull, Sykora (the cheap and talentless one), Kiwi, Boumer.

ANYONE can get some talent if given the MOST First round picks than any other team since 2000.
The team with the fewest happens to be in the Second round and pushing for the Cup. That's talent.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

@828
Does that make you Jeff?
Why would someone want two names on this blog?

Posted by: wendel | April 25, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Every team gets good picks and bad ones. That team also bought their players, which they will not be able to afford in the next year or two. Out in the second round with no real future. Yep, that's talent.

GMGM never had the budget to buy so he went the right way, through picks he masterminded through trades. Yes, they picked some up from not playing well, but he also traded away aging stars past their prime to get pciks to land the Green's of the word.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 25, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Really CT Caps Fan !
I thank you for the info, you're so smart.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

@Wendel/Chief

I don't think there's anything wrong with supporting a player or maybe taking issues with some things GMGM does, but I think the reason why you're rubbing people the wrong way here is because some of your statements just don't seem to be backed by fact.

Laing being a healthy scratch is Boudreau's call. Emminger played commendably in the playoffs, but you can't really say the team was worse off with him not playing much during the regular season.

The team played well this year overcoming the huge hole that was dug in the beginning of the season. Personally this has been my favorite Caps team since I became a fan in '94. The team has a bright future. But based on your comments, you make it sound like GMGM has ruined this team beyond repair and to top it off he kicked your dog and punched your mom in her face.

Posted by: Bonzai | April 25, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

GMGM gets credit for matt Cooke?
where did he go in the playoffs?
zero points a few hits
we really dont need him for a whole year at $1.5 or more
Send him back to Vancouver

Posted by: wendel | April 25, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I postulate that Chief is a Washington Post intern who trolls the board in order to increase the Caps discussion and increase hits, especially on days where Tarik is off and we really have little other reason to post.

Discuss.

PS- apologies if someone has suggested this before

Posted by: GJ | April 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Bonzai,

I back up my rude comments with fact: see post at 2:39 about first round picks.

Someone use the word "mastermind" with Midget. That's absolutely laughable.

Here's a fact:
MIDGET has NOT assembled a team that has won a post season round since he was hired !! What a mastermind.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@bonzai
Finally bb has a long term contract and will make the on ice calls and gmgm can back off
bb didnt have full control until he signed his contract so gmgm did have way too much influence.Thanfully those days are over.

I didnt say gmgm ruined the team i just said I dont think he is god like u do.
Why did it take until bb to get this team going if gmgm is so good?

Posted by: wendel | April 25, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

So what's next now? I imagine several are headed to the World Championships?

Posted by: King Gus | April 25, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I created a spread sheet using figures from nhlscap.com

if anybody wants a copy, so they can play around with it a bit e-mail me at blwiseass at yahoo.com

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | April 25, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Remember how MIDGET & AZAMAT predicted the Cap to go down once play resumed ??
What has it done every year since ?
Using that as leverage to convince the "sheep" to accept a CHEAP AHL level team was insulting, I hope they lose for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

@Wendel

I never said GMGM was a god, but I sure don't hold the hatred towards him that you do. I agree that he has made bad moves, but you can't deny that he also picked players that now form, what is arguably the best young nucleus of players in the league. The team has a promising future.

GMGM is most defniitely not the best GM, nor is he the worst GM in the league. The team did well this year and Chief can complain that they didn't win the series against the Flyers but one can argue that bad refereeing was a factor in the outcome of that series as well.

Posted by: Bonzai | April 25, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero, is that the number one or the letter l after b?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

@Steve

Its the letter L

BLWISEASS at Yahoo

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | April 25, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Got it Sombrero, shot you an e-mail

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

So in doing research for my paper last night, I found out I can't root for the Sharks because we have one of their draft picks. I guess I'll root for the Stars.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 25, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Throw around some "facts" and they all flee.
hehe

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I owe tommy 100$... crap... Flyers stuck with the habs for a bit... honestly i'm not as scared of the habs after watching last nights game as i was of the caps... not sure why... i think the caps gave the flyers less room and hit harder to be honest... Refs made all the calls i expected not nearly as many controversial or nearly as many calls period as last series... gut tells me the refs got lectured... not sure how that high stick wasn't called off but i guess there wasn't an angle good enough... if it was below the crossbar howd his stick hit the top of it when it came down? oh well... Price looks shakey... That Richards call was rough, but in real time it really looked like a trip... bang bang and its over, i guess that's why the habs are so dangerous... I'm really looking forward to the pens rags game but even more so the Sharks vs Stars... that series is going to be a trip i think! GO STARS GO!

Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

does anyone else bother to post comments on a message board dedicated to things they hate? i'm wondering about the mentality of those who do. it's one thing to voice a negative opinon about something you care about, its another to continue to do so about something you so obviously hate (not to mention many of the opinions are not remotely based upon fact). for example, i hate american idol. dont watch it, don't know what the attraction is. i certainly dont go on one of their fan sites and complain about the show...

Posted by: Cap Fan 1 | April 25, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Chief,

Facts, what facts? Must have missed it.

If you were GMGM, what goalie would you go for and why?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

@Cap Fan 1,

I have Philly and Pens.

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

@jmu,

Which pick is that? 2nd rounder? Think the Caps have 3 2nd's this year.

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

chief, the only facts is see coming from you are (a) the first few years of GMGM's draft record are stunningly bad (b) the caps haven't won a playoff round in a long time and (c) i do think ted thought the cap would go down. besides that, nothing you have said is factual or relevant. just ramblings from a sad person with a hard on for GMGM and an unexplainable hatred for ted. go root for someone else.

Posted by: Cap Fan 1 | April 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Cap Fan,

What I meant to say was "hate" philly and pens. bloody typos

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The "first few years"
Pokuluk will be a BUST. That's recent and as of today the Caps have no #1 Goalie, that's relevant.

What's also relevant is that you acknowledge that GM/MIDGET has FAILED to win. In Pro sports you either win or get fired.
OH, that only applies to the 3 past coaches, MIDGET gets a free pass thanks to his daddy AZAMAT.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I found it hilarious that flyer fans were whining so much about yesterday's calls on kovalev goal and richards penalty...weren't these flyer fans saying how we were whining and we have overcome adversity no matter the calls...HYPOCRITES!!!

Posted by: O-V-P | April 25, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Chief,

The Caps have to wait until July to sign a goalie not named Huet or Olie. How could you ignore that fact?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

CT:
You are going to be a split STH next year?!? Wow ... guess our friends in the UK, Japan and Middle East need to had over the uber fan award!

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

So you say that Chief is Wendel ... is he also someone else who knows?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

go away jeff, we dont care about your team, opinion or analysis. ridiculous

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

pokuluk is the dude w/ the concussion problem right? GMGM should have predicted that.

have you been paying attention the past 3 years? did ted or GMGM say that they were going to WIN NOW or did they say they had a plan to break down the team and build it back up? did they say they were going to sign tons of big name free agents or did they say they were going to build through the draft? anyone who thinks this team isnt on the way up just isnt, or doesnt want to, pay attention.

Posted by: Cap Fan 1 | April 25, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Sure thing buddy & The Rebuild is Over.
Bwahhhhhhahahahahahhah

No Stable defense & No Goalie.
What a "rebuild"

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

More debates ...

Can we at least all agree that we want the Habs and the Rangers to win the second round?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

No pokuluk is the Donkey struggling in the Coast. What a winner

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

@ Boo,

I guess we can agree. I really don't want to see Jagr advance, but I REALLY don't want to see the Pens advance.

Let's go Habs, Let's go Sharks!

Posted by: Jordan | April 25, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Jordan:
Call it the lesser of two evils ... ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, go Habs and everyone on the Rangers aside from Jagr

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Steve:
And Avery ...

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Boo, Avery does have some comedic value though. Maybe somebody will squash him & make you happy.

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I must say.. While I didn't appreciate what Avery did from a hockey fan standpoint, I was laughing my ass off from a comedy standpoint.

Posted by: Jordan | April 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I just want to see Jagr punched in the face.

Posted by: OlieFan | April 25, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Steve:
Good point - he is pretty funny. The sad thing is that I don't think he means to be. But a good squashing would be fun, or a check into the bench ... too bad he can't oogie boogie anymore!

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

@chief

The reason we had such terrible players was because we didn't WANT to break the bank on someone like Jagr again, we built from within and now we're already back in contention. We flat out sucked for the past few years with people like Doig and Kiwi on the blueline and players like Clymer and Fata playing forward. But we had to ice an NHL (kinda) team to play, so we did.

We built through the draft, and in Ovie's third year, we win the Southeast division, and were a few controversial calls away from advancing to the Semifinals. You and wendel are nothing but trolls that feel you have clairvoyance and reason, but fail to acknowledge the direction of the team.

You obviously are a fan in some manner, since you troll the blogs and probably watch the games. I'm sure somewhere deep down you'll be happy when Ovechkin raises the cup within the next couple years.

@ everyone else

I think it's more likely than some say that Huet re-signs, Tarik may have stated somethign about his wife wanting a more Euro city, but there's a deep European culture around here, it's an extremely diverse area. If he does walk, there are limited options, I admit, but maybe it wouldn't be so bad to test someone like Machesny. I wouldn't tender Theodore more than a year long contract, seems he only shows up in contract years. He was terrible for the Avs before he remembered he needed to show his stuff to make money again.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | April 25, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Also Pokulok can not be blamed on the management, his career has been hampered by injury after being drafted, not lack of talent.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

CapsCorndog:
Saw your text message on the jumbotron at the last game! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Corndog,
I want whatever you're smoking.
"Deep european culture"??
"maybe" a deep Ethiopian, Mexican, Nigerian, korean culture. European, NO.

Keep allowing for this PATHETIC loser MIDGET to run the team & you will be dead before anything good happens.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Anyone named Sasha from Cornel had no business being drafted in Round 1.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

@ Boo!

I was wondering how many would notice, haha. I've been banned from the Caps forums under that name because the mods were ah... "over sensitive" during the Mass Hysteria times, and I made a joke. But I'm glad a few people caught the Hi caphcky!

Also the 5:18 PM comment was me

@ Chief
I don't know what part of the metro area you live in, but there are plenty of European ethnicities in the Arlington and Alexandria areas especially. I wouldn't blame Huet if he walked for that reason, but it's not like this area is anti-european or anything either. You just hop on any and all reasons to try and be down on the team and good things that could happen.

Optimism must have been beaten out of you at a young age.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | April 25, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CapsCorndog | April 25, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and reality has yet to slap you in the face.
There's nothing left, all the people that cry "facts", ran off after I presented the True Facts.
This GM/MIDGET has managed to accomplish NOTHING tangible in 10 seasons.
OV & BB are the best acquisitions, & they were by default/accident. PATHETIC & Sad you people do not advocate his FIRING like I do.

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I'd say this season's progress is rather tangible actually. Some of us have more patience than others, I like the direction the team is going, obviously you can't say the same. Differing opinions is fine, but leave names out of it. AZAMAT? Come on.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | April 25, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Chief's Mother is number on prostitute in D.C. Washington. I try her out once. She was very niiice!

Posted by: Borat | April 25, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Chief's mother is #1 street walker in D.C. Washington. I know cause she is very niice!

Posted by: Borat | April 25, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I get you.

Posted by: Bilos | April 25, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Holy moly - almost 500 posts! Tarik needs to come back from vacation ...

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

My uneducated hunch -- Huet stays, Theodore stays.

Posted by: uncatim | April 25, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Vote for Backs!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/Default.aspx
(scroll down to almost the bottom of the page - towards the middle)

So far he is winning!!

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to join the convo so late....Take a hop over the hockeydb.com some time and see how common it is to land 6 nhl caliber players in one draft. 2004 draft for GMGM

Ovechkin
Schultz
Green
Bourque
Lepisto
Gordon (a)

That's the kind of draft that turns a franchise around. Not to mention the draft we landed Emminger, Gordon (b) and Semin in the same round. I have studied the drafts (I was home sick the friday waiting for game 1 to start..had nothing to do, couldn't sit still..you know what I'm talking about) and the 2 greatest drafts ever (calgary 1984 and detroit 1989) landed 4 players who each played a thousand NHL games in his career. You may see that out of the 2004 draft. If Ovechkin and Green stay healthy, that's 2 right there. Its possible. Lepisto is a great skater and Bourque has grit. Anyway, GMGM had weak drafts to begin but recently he has cleaned up. He has stocked us with young talented D men...

Green
Schultz
Lepisto
Finley
Alzner
Godfrey

and then there's that Ovechkin guy...


Posted by: Kevin caps fan | April 25, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

J Godfrey playing tonight for the li'l caps vs. Dunder-Mifflin

Posted by: Kevin caps fan | April 25, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

The Caps better do all they can to keep such a loyal player like Olie on their team. He has every right to express his disappointment through his 'hockey temper' and rip his name plate off his locker after not even getting one minute of playoff ice time.
Let's keep our fingers crossed!!
Thanks, Olie, for everything you have done for the Capitals. We still love you up here in Baltimore.
BRING HOCKEY BACK TO BALTIMORE!

Posted by: SkipjackShelly | April 25, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Boo, I think I've thrown the numbers off, I voted at least five times...:D

Steve R, Yeah, I think that's what it was. The numbers I found, which may be completely wrong--3 2nd rounds, 1 4th round, 1 5th round, all part of trades, and not counting whatever we normally would have and picks we get leading up to and day-of.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 25, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Anybody notice how weak Cindy's playoff beard is?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Bears power play (right now on E-radio)....A Gordon, E Fehr, C Bourque, S Lepisto and J Godfrey... How long till all 4 of these guys make it top the big club?? (Fehr already be there) (granted...they won't supplant Backsie, Sascha or Ovie on the power play)

Maxime Lacroix just scored

Posted by: Kevin caps fan | April 25, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Steve R, I don't think that's a beard, I think its just dirt...or make-up. His "mustache" is so ashamed, it's un-grown itself.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 25, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

About splitting STH, we did that this year and it worked out great. Also, as STH you can buy extra tix @ discounted rates...ie. our friends kept regular tix in the 400s for the playoffs and we bought 2 more tix in the lower bowl, awesome seats too!
It worked well for us, Good luck future STHs, Rock the Red with us next year!

Posted by: HockeyMom5 | April 25, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

GMGM really isn't that short...

Posted by: mobsky | April 25, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

What's up with Ruutu putting his blade in the face of Rozsival on the faceoff and holding it there while staring him down? How on earth did he get away with that? Is that not the definition of unsportsmanlike conduct? Oh, wait, Koharski is reffing ... nevermind.

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Good one Boo.
4-4 now. How did Hossa get that one through Gomez?

Posted by: Steve R | April 25, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Hershey Bears lose to the baby Pens tonight 7-4 and are eliminated from the playoffs. Eric Fehr had one of the Bears goals. Comment from John Walton "Josh Godfrey has a rocket of a slap shot." Maybe we'll see him with the Caps in a couple years. Too bad Alzer didn't get a chance to play (flu). Have to wait till rookie camp to see him.

Posted by: tess | April 25, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Crosby/Malkin just scored to put the Pens up 5-4 with 1:41 left. Wild game and 3rd period.

Posted by: oo7 | April 25, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

499

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

500^

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

@Steve

My sicilian grandma had mustaches longer than Crosby.

How cute is Chief? Come here trolly trolly trolly *feeds him a pellet*

Posted by: mauree | April 25, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Steve:
Seriously, though - did you see it? It was absolutely ridiculous ... downright Avery-like!

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

mauree:
I thought you knew better than to feed the trolls?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

@Boo!

lol I know, sorry sorry *throws the last pellet at Chief while she's not looking*

*whistles*


I missed Ruutu's episode while glancing at the game. I didn't like the last penalty, that gave the Pens the game. I really hate how the ref can decide games on something that sometimes they call, sometimes they let go. Nobody knows what a penalty is anymore.

Posted by: mauree | April 25, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

mauree:
You're so bad! :-P I didn't see the entire game but, given the refs, it does not surprise me. You've got to find the Ruutu clip - it is incredible. Don't get me started about the reffing during our series - I am trying to move on ...

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

mauree:
BTW, did you ever watch Animal House?

Posted by: Boo! | April 25, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

Come back! The withdrawl symptoms are killing me!

Is it next year, yet?

Posted by: Ole Miss | April 25, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

That's a beard? I thought Sindy just needed a bleaching and/or a tweeze really badly!

Posted by: Greg S. | April 25, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that the Rangers blew a 3-0 lead. That's my (other) boys.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 25, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

The Huet's need to live in Fairfax County. There's over 100 languages spoken here. More than likely, one of them is French. If she wants an "old world" feel, they can go to Old Town Alexandria, or Georgetown, or... . We're not Montreal, but do we want to be?

And don't fee Chief, guys. He's just a curmudgeon.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 25, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I just got back from the Nats game. It was strange without everyone decked out in red.

The ball instead of a puck was interesting as well.

The grass allowed the players to move better then the Verizon Center Ice though.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 25, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

From that list, Ovechkin (No brainer), green & gordon are legit NHL caliber players as of today.
I give Zero credit for being dead last and winning a lottery for OV.
The rest have yet to prove themselves as anything but potential NHL players

A hooker on K Street could make the same picks and do better at that.
10 Seasons with NOTHING to show for it.

Keep "Believing"

Posted by: Chief | April 25, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow all i can say is that i'd be ashamed to be a caps fan if chief had control over the caps. What an idiot.

Posted by: SoMDcapsfan | April 26, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

@SoMDcapfan

See, Chief couldn't do his usual moaning and groaning about how bad the Caps were during January, February and March. Actually, starting in December. Because the Caps were winning games. So he couldn't say anything. Must have torn him inside out when they went 7 in a row.

Ah, but now they lost! So now he can moan about how terrible gmgm is, and how stupid Ted is, and...

Just ignore him.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 26, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

@greg s

I totally agree.

I've actually read Tarik's blog updates for most of the season and never really heard from Chief unless they were losing. Its as if the caps don't win every game its GMGM and "AZAMATS" fault. Funny.

Also if BB was our coach at the beginning of the year, we would have had 108 pts (assuming our win % under BB was constant). Yea GMGM is a complete idiot for drafting smart (with a few shades of blue) and trading to fulfill the teams needs.

This is definately the closest bonded team i've ever seen in the organizations long history. I've been a fan since I was born 20 years ago and this team has by far the most potential to be a dominant team for years to come.

LETS GO CAPS!! (That includes GMGM chief!)

Off-Season Priorities:

1) Resign Green (before July 1)
2) Resign Huet (before July 1)
3) Resign as many of our pending UFA's and RFA's as possible (mainly Laich, Mo, Feds, Cook, and Emmy)
4) Possibly find another puck moving d-man say Liles? Let me know what you all think.

Oh and expect Ovie and Backie to be a dynamic duo for years to come!

Exciting times for all Caps Fans! ALWAYS INTENSE!

I wish it was september already... lol

Posted by: SoMDcapsfan | April 26, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

10 Years without a post season series victory.
Most First round draft picks than any other team in the NHL since 2000.

Rewarded with Ovechkin for being a Loser.
Yeah, looks like he's "wonderful"
No #1 Goalie under contract, No stable defense in place & "ended" up with BB as his coach NO thanks to his own mistakes.
What a great MIDGET.
MIDGET will get what he deserves. NOTHING

Posted by: Chief | April 26, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

So kolzig's house is for sale...so I dont think he is staying.... if anyone needed to know for sure.

Posted by: NEWS!!! | April 26, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Chief, why do you even bother posting here?

Posted by: nhcaps | April 26, 2008 2:12 AM | Report abuse

@nhcaps

Been tryin to figure that out for a long time now.

Posted by: SoMDcapsfan | April 26, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Chief is an idiot.

Boydon is a legit NHL player today? Dont you mean Laich you retard?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Sovsport is reporting today that, according to Vladislav Tretiak, the Russian Hockey Federation has come up with $700,000 to purchase insurance for Alex Ovechkin's contract, and that he will play for the Russian national team in the world championships. According to Tretiak, "the team needs Ovechkin, the money doesn't matter".

(in Russian):
http://www.sovsport.ru/gazeta/article-item/289872

Posted by: Fred | April 26, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

NEWS!!!:
How do you know that Kolzig's house is for sale?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Have a friend that works in real estate that knows his house is on the market

Posted by: NEWS!! | April 26, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I'd take "NEWS!!" with a grain of salt. Not that I don't believe it, but Kolzig is well rooted in this area.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | April 26, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

As for Ollie.......once he is done playing, whenever that is, he is moving back to the Pacific Northwest, do not forget he owns a minor league or junior team there. During the strike he stayed out there, so his roots can and will be moved...

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

oo7 - thanks for the background on Oatsie but something isn't right. The thread started with "Oates blew off a final team meeting" and you say it was when he benched by Wilson and then he was gone. But the Caps traded Oates to the Flyers at the trade deadline in March 2002 - so there was no final team meeting to miss (unless it happened at the end of the 2001 season and then he obviously came back and played for Washington again).

Anyway, no big deal. I was just a huge Oates fan - and there's not much to blog about without updates from Tarik...

Posted by: tokyo fan | April 26, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Chief. You are the very definition of a broken record. How many times must you re post the same exact thing. We get it. I assure. We know how you feel.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | April 26, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Chief,

You need to stop sugar coating things. How do you really feel...

Sorry Sombrero, couldn't resist.

Boo,

Watched all of both games last night. The refs sent the wrong message with not blowing the whistle on Rutuu (sp?) imho. That looked like a violation of the Avery rule. Did he get an out because the puck wasn't in play?

Posted by: Steve R | April 26, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

@Steve R,

There's a secret amendment to the Avery rule which says it can only be called on Sean Avery. I'm ok with that.

Posted by: old time hockey | April 26, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Steve:
If he got an out because the puck was not in play, then imagine what else could be allowed when the puck is not dropped. Typical inconsistent reffing (not that that's a word, but I insist on continuing to use it). If I played hockey I would never be a fighter, but even I would have a hard time ignoring a blade in my face.

Posted by: Boo! | April 26, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

@ chief,

I love you babe. We need 2 sides to form a debate, thanks for pitching in your part. Don't stop hating. I love that you represent the average no-nothing fan who believes that each moment is more important than any moment yet to come. Name a gm who hasn't blown a draft or two? Do you know how hard it is even to get 3 career NHLer's in one draft? Are you aware it takes the average NHL player 2 to 3 years after the draft to develop? Datsyuk and Zetterberg didn't exactly light it up their first couple of years. What draft knowledge do you have to validate your argument? Since the CAPS decided to blow up the team and BUILD through the draft they have done outstanding. But don't believe me, how the former NHL players and coaches that know a little about hockey and say the CAPS and the PENS are the teams that will dominate the next 10 years.

Posted by: Kevin caps fan | April 26, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I think that Chief is a plant from the Caps office. He is here to get fans excited about the Caps, as they rally together around the team to fight the antagonist (ala Chief), and proclaim how good things are yet to be! What do you think?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 26, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute, maybe he is actually GMGM?!? Good ol' reverse psychology ... ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | April 26, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Datsyuk and Zetterberg didn't exactly light it up their first couple of years. What draft knowledge do you have to validate your argument? Since the CAPS decided to blow up the team and BUILD through the draft they have done outstanding. But don't believe me, how the former NHL players and coaches that know a little about hockey and say the CAPS and the PENS are the teams that will dominate the next 10 years.

Posted by: Kevin caps fan | April 26, 2008 12:17 PM

Actually Datsyuk and Zetterberg were pretty imprssive their rookie years. There numbers were not what they are now, but you could see the potential. I would liken them to Semin in his rookie year.

I, too, think the Caps have a promising future. Assuming they can keep their core guys together and healthy, they should be competing for the Cup. That being said, things can change quickly. Just 3-4 years ago, general concensus around the league was that the Thrashers were the young up-and-coming team. Now, not so much.

Posted by: CBT | April 26, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Chief = Bruce Cassidy?

Would explain a lot.

Posted by: Hook | April 26, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Neat lead editorial in the Washington Post today (Saturday):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/25/AR2008042503206.html

Posted by: longtimecapsfan | April 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

@ CBT.

I was talking about the first couple of years after they were drafted. As great as they are now, they did not come right out of the draft and go right into the NHL. It took even them a couple of years.

Agreed, things can change quickly but Ovechkin is the kind of player that wins championships (Jordan, Gretzky, Montana) and makes the players around them better. Look at Zubie and Clark. Both of their career years came on Ovie's line. You could put a orange cone next to the goal, tape a stick to it and IT would get 15 goals (Ovie's passing is VERY underated) and 20 assists a season.

Posted by: Kevin caps fan | April 26, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Folks. Chief isn't happy unless everyone is miserable like he is.

Ignore him. Please!

Posted by: Greg S. | April 26, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Cheif = Dick Chaney

Posted by: Anonymous | April 26, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"Cheif = Dick Chaney"

I'd watch out, Dick shoots some mean skeet.

Posted by: Steve R | April 26, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Is it next season yet?

*sigh*

Posted by: Greg S. | April 26, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

It is 143 days, 0 hours, 21 minutes and 20 seconds.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 26, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Greg, I just got depressed.

Posted by: Steve R | April 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

What is with the Wash Post print coverage of the2nd round of the Stanley Cup playoffs, it is non existent?

Posted by: Jim K | April 26, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Steve. I think there's something wrong with mauree's clock. I think he picked the wrong month or something.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 26, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

The post never covers the Stanley Cup. They just pay for a small concise AP writeup. Well I'll see you all next season on here. The Caps message board moderator wouldn't validate my account, and went so far as to delete my account when I asked them what the deal was.

Instead of validating it, it was deleted. Thanks.

Posted by: MNMNT | April 26, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Very weird hearing Joe B do the vs. call for the flyers game -- bringing flashbacks from Tuesday.

Posted by: Hook | April 26, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Went away for a night and the same ole stuff is out there thanks to Chief. Nobody ran because you gave no facts. I won't go into it any further, but I agree with what CapCornDog wrote.

I do have one serious question for you though. What team do you actually root for? I just don't see it being the Caps and if it is, I think we should trade you for Jeff in Philly.

@ Boo! I still think the other guys get the credit. Driving 5 hours for 10-15 games still does not compare to watching games at the middle of the night like the others, but thanks for your thoughts.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | April 26, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

CT:
Regardless, I am impressed. Cheers!

So what happened with the Philly game tonight? I did not watch it - I just got home and looked at the scoreboard. I thought Montreal was supposed to be the better team?!? :-( Hopefully the Rangers will have a better day tomorrow than the Habs had today.

Dave:
Sounds like Old Trafford is not having any more success rockin' the red than the phone booth did ... what's up with that?!? Is red not in fashion this season?

Posted by: Boo! | April 26, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Tokyo Fan- you're right, he did come back and get traded. Was Wilson fired first? Man its been a long time... The details are murky. Why are you listening to me anyway? My wife won't believe you exist...

Posted by: oo7 | April 26, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the Pens / Rangers series, between Avery and Ruutu it has the potential to win the Emmy for best comedy. Throw in Billy Crystal, Whoopi Goldberg and Robin Williams and you've got Comic Relief VIII. I can't wait for the next sketch!

Posted by: Boo! | April 26, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I saw Ovechkin (wearing a Wizards jersey w his name on it), Backstrom, Semin & Federov (wearing referee outfits) at a party on Friday night. It was a sports themed party...actually a pretty good time!

Ovechkin said he's leaving for Quebec tomorrow...

Posted by: CapsSighting | April 27, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

one of the funniest pic you'll ever see:

http://i26.tinypic.com/e807mf.jpg

Posted by: elicea | April 27, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone watch the interviews from the day after game 7 on www.nhl.tv? Greenie looked like he had been crying ... :-( Based on a number of factors from those interviews, I would guess that Fed is more likely to come back than Huet. I bet that Cooke will be back, too. And Ovie, well, he's just a cool guy. Gave credit to EVERYONE - the fans, trainers, massage guys ... everyone! Not just the players and the coach. Gotta respect that.

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Wow ... 555 posts ... is that a record?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Boo,

Was any credit given to Slapshot?

Posted by: Steve R | April 27, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Huh, coaches arguing over does Cindy dive.

Posted by: Steve R | April 27, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Steve:
No, not to Slapshot, but to Slapshot's girlfriend ... hmm ... love triangle?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Steve R,
Actually, Therrien was arguing over whether or not he dove...Renney was just trying to make sure the officials called things even... :D Funny how Therrien immediately assumed Renney was talking about Sindey. Guilty conscience perhaps??

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 27, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

jmu,

Or past history..?

Cindy is an alternate for Canada's diving team in Bejing after all.

Posted by: Steve R | April 27, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Its starting to feel like we've been abandoned on this dead thread, eh?

I just heard Emerick say "Gonchar coughed it up," and wondered if Pens fans are getting tired of hearing that yet. I'm interested to see who's on the ice when it all goes down in this series.


Posted by: oo7 | April 27, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

If you want a smile, check out all of the Pens ufa players. Makes me wonder how they're going to be able to pay Malkin next year.

http://nhlscap.com/salarynumbers/pittsburgh.htm

Posted by: Steve R | April 27, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Steve R,
That too. :D

What is the cap going to next year?
Right now, they've got about 37 mil tied up, with another 23 mil to add if they resign all of their UFAs/RFAs this year *without raises*, to anyone. Next year, they'll add another 15 mil, *without raises*. I'm sure Malkin would fetch an extra 4, at insult-low. So minimum, (resigning everyone, which probably won't happen), the year they'll have to resign Geno, their cap will be around 75 mil. Have fun with that, Pitt.

One question, performance bonuses do not affect cap space, right?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 27, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I think oo7 is right - this thread is dead. :-( Is Tarik back from vacation yet?

So what do we have to do to get the Rangers to win a game? This is getting depressing. Hopefully the Habs won't let us down.

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

JMU:
I believe the cap is going to be over $55m ($56.3?), but I don't think it has been firmed up yet.

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Boo!,
Yeah, Steve, Pen's are screwed.

oo7, I agree, we need more news!! Anything! (but preferably good news). Tell us what Ovie ate for breakfast this morning, I don't really care.
I never realized how hard this whole "off-season" thing was going to be. It might be worse than Lent. Scratch that, it is worse--Lent is only 40 days, this is like 140. I have three days left until my self-imposed "no-games-until-exams-are-over" exile ends and I'm not sure I'm going to make it.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 27, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

It's almost been a week;still not over it.Get here soon October!

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 27, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

569th

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

markfromparkville:
I'd settle for training camp at this point! ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

@Boo
Thinking about buying a full package(that's what she said) for next season.Can't decide between the nose bleeds(affordable) or the lower bowl(great seats but a strain on the wallet).Living in Baltimore only able to make it to 20-25 games,but still like the full plan.Decisions decisions.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 27, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

markfromparkville:
I am a STH - strongly recommend it! And if CT Caps Fan can make it from CT for his new plan, well ... ;-) If you can't decide between the upper and lower bowls, I would suggest the loge - great view, great bargain! But there are not that many of them, so you should probably contact your ticket rep ASAP if you are interested.

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Can no one beat the Pens? WTF? Undefeated in the playoffs so far...

Posted by: oo7 | April 27, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

oo7:
Apparently not (sniff*sniff). If the Rangers can't make it happen, my money is on the Habs.

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

It all comes back to one thing:

Jagr sucks.

Posted by: Steve R | April 27, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Steve:
And Avery is the oogie boogie man.

Posted by: Boo! | April 27, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I was looking at NHLSCAP.com. They have some good stuff out there, if you're data retentive. One of them is the Team Cap Numbers. It shows the payroll of each team, the current years cap, and the amount under or over.

So, any guesses who is over?

NYR? Yup. By 750 K.
Philly? Yup. By 480 K.
How bout Anaheim? Yup, by 433 K.
How bout Boston? Yup. By 2,938 K.

Who saw that one coming? And that's AFTER the injury credit of 1.9M. That, my friends is an underperforming team.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 27, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Boo!

I acually like Avery. So long as we don't play against him.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 27, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Hello,

My name is Super and I have a hockey problem... at least I admit it right, isn't that the first step?

Here is something from one of my favorite blogs "a view from the cheap seats" to get you through the days

http://dccheapseats.blogspot.com/2007/06/offseason-activity.html

Posted by: Super | April 27, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh how i hate the Pens but oh how good those bastards look. They are playing exceptional hockey. Scary, scary team. Well balanced, full of snipers, physical players and superstars. By the time they have to sign Malkin they might already have two cups. Its truly a case of" how many?" with that team.

Dallas is giving SJ fits!

I'm with you, Boo; Our path to the cup goes through Pittsburgh for the next 10 years.

Posted by: oo7 | April 27, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

oo7:
"Our path to the cup goes through Pittsburgh for the next 10 years." Aahhh ... music to my ears!

Greg:
Like him in a 'he amuses you' way or ... ?!?

Super:
Thanks, I needed that (I particularly liked #2); does that make me co-dependent?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 28, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Dallas is my back-up team for the remainder.
I broke my rule and that was the first game I've been able to watch since Tuesday without feeling angry and depressed...
To anyone who watched it: Why in the world did they pull Nabokov, then pull the back-up thirty seconds later? Were they really expecting success with an empty net for almost two minutes? Was Nabokov hurt? He went straight to the locker room...granted there wasn't much time left in the game.
Oh, and just a thought, but in these playoffs, having a Vezina candidate title behind your name seems a bit like a curse.

Greg, I may have to agree with you. He makes you laugh, he can score goals, he gets in people's faces. He may not back up his mouth all the time, but thats not necessary 100% of the time. If he decided he wanted to play in DC, I probably wouldn't complain too loudly.

Super, first time I read that, I laughed so hard at a few of them I had stomach pains. I might have to do #41 when I'm up there this summer, although if you change it to Ovie, you'd probably get a few claps and cheers now. I'm bummed the clips of the 80s videos don't work. Anybody got working links for them??

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 28, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

From OFB:
Yet another reason the Nothin' But Crosby network is amazing...ly stupid.
http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/27/nbc-sports-paragon-of-accuracy/

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 28, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

JMU:
Someone did mention that they saw Ovie at a party this weekend and that he was getting ready to go to Quebec ... maybe he hopped on the ice while he was up there?!?

Posted by: Boo! | April 28, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is probably in Quebec on international duties for the World Championships, which are being held in Quebec City and Halifax this year.

Normally the tournament gets held in Europe, but because of the 100th anniversary celebrations of the game, they're holding it in Canada this year.

Posted by: Patrick | April 28, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Kathleen?

Posted by: 828 | April 28, 2008 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Just wanted to say great job all year Tarik.

Posted by: rh71 | April 28, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

nevermind...

Posted by: 828 | April 28, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

589

Posted by: Anonymous | April 28, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

594

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