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Laing, Sloan Clear Waivers

I'm told left wing Quintin Laing and defenseman Tyler Sloan have cleared waivers and have been assigned to Hershey.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  October 7, 2008; 12:50 PM ET
 
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1st!!!! hahaha

Posted by: 4check | October 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Great news, Hershey is going to be stacked and we now are well covered for any injuries in the season as well as increased cap space by the day as we get to the trade deadline. Drop the puck already!

Posted by: kiltman | October 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Whoo! I get to see QL on Friday, too! Bears are gonna win everything.

Posted by: Jordan | October 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

as a season ticket holder for the Bears this season, I am excited for the season to start.

Posted by: HBFan | October 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

From Previous:
==
Extreme pairing
Schultz-Jurcina

The Tallest - The Heaviest


Posted by: Dave King | October 7, 2008 12:49 PM
===

I'm looking at these pairings and have a few thoughts. The knock on Schultz is he doesn't play tough for his size. He put on some more meat this off season, and it may be possible BB is pairing him with our biggest, strongest remove-player-from-puck defender we have to try to give him a "see, this is how you do it..."

I'm also wondering if BB is trying to give Poti a "Mo" style defender to see if we can wrestle some O from #3. 3/55 combo last year just always seemed to look odd and out of touch with eachother (I feel it's cause they are both righties). Maybe BB's hoping Poti can click with another R in Erskine. Who knows.

But, I really like the 23/55 combo IF Schultz can learn to use his frame better.

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Selfishly I'm glad Q is still in the Caps' system. Thanks for the update.

Posted by: Jill | October 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Jill

Don't feel bad about wanting Q to be a Cap. I really think the timing of releasing him yesterday was to lessen the chance he'd be taken. I honestly believe that he'll be harder to call up when/if we have to. I also believe that as soon as the injury bug bites a 4th-liner, he'll get the call.

I wish we could get the question answered by QL or CB personally: "Would you rather be in Hershey, on the short list of call-ups, or playing for some other NHL team."

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I feel bad for Laing, but thank goodness he cleared waivers. This guy is going to help the team at some point during the season.

Posted by: red dragon | October 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Tarik

In the previous string, someone said OVIE was out for a month with a GROIN injury.

How true is that???
Thanks!!

Posted by: CantMissKid | October 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

CantMissKid

There's just some things you pick up on after a while. Some posters you ignore and some things you trust.

Until Tarik posts it, it didn't happen ;-)

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking the reason we sent Q.L. down last night is that it gave him time to clear. Other teams may have players with more offensive upside on the waiver bubble. Teams looking to pick the waiver wire would likely want to wait until they saw all the options rather than pick up the first heart and soul kind of guy. By making our cuts early it would have forced the waiver vulture's hands.

Selfishly I too am happy he's still here.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

That was the longest 24 hours of my life, I'm glad Q's staying around...he brings more than folks think to the table.

Posted by: KK | October 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

FFSEnough has it right. I wonder if the caps will risk calling him up? Given that some of these decisions (Alzner for example) was a cap decision, can they afford the cap hit if he gets claimed on re-call waivers?

It's too bad for QL (given his age, the amount of time toiling in the minors, and the fact that he has a very young family) that he can't spend another year, ANYWHERE, collecting the NHL salary.

My guess, his preference would be:
1) getting a regular shift on any other team
2) sitting all year in the press box at WAS
3) sitting all year in the press box at any other team
4) assignment to Hershey

Posted by: laing fan | October 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

According to LeBrun's blog on ESPN.com, Ted told him that he's doesn't see the Caps making an Euro trip anytime soon.

Posted by: tallbear | October 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Pettinger is on waivers, I just heard on NHL live.

Posted by: Jordan | October 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

What do we know about Tyler Sloan? Is he just a career minor league player or does he have a chance to be an NHL regular some day? Thanks.

Posted by: MikeR | October 7, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Probably not. Sloan seems to be destined to be an AHL'er.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 7, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Everyone listen to KING FFS !I HAVE SPOKEN !

Posted by: RedRocker | October 7, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Great Seats | October 7, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The harder move will be bringing QL back when he needs to cleaar re-entry waivers. If anyone picks him up then, the Caps pay half his salary for the rest of the year. Any recall will need impecable timing!

Posted by: Bob | October 7, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I realize many love Laing,and I hope you enjoyed watching him last year, but you have seen the last of him. He is at best the 4th call up. Caps now have 2 extra forwards, plus Bourque. Lots of heart and would have played on this team 3 years ago, but talent is better now.

Posted by: Rich C | October 7, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Rich - I am afraid you are correct. Hopefully the Caps will trade QL to a team that needs him for a younger prospect or a pick. It would be best for all involved.

Posted by: laing fan | October 7, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is, I hope Laing reads this blog! He's a great guy with a big heart for the game and a lot of character. It is nice to see that so many people recognize that.

Posted by: Boo! | October 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

OK I am new to this and what does all this waiver stuff mean for QL? Is there a link or something

Posted by: Bruce | October 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Pettinger was apparently waived by the Canucks. McLaren was waived by the sharks. Now before everyone asks, McLaren's cap number is 2.5 million and no we can not afford him

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey does anyone know what Hersheys lineup is?

Posted by: Patrick | October 7, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

@Bruce

a little light reading for ya regarding waivers

http://www.nhlscap.com/waivers.htm

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Bruce

QL had to clear waivers because of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, or CBA. Article 13 describes the call up and send down process, amoung other things. At a certain age or with a certain number of games played, years in the league, etc., you have to go through waivers when sent down. When this happens, another team can claim the player off of waivers. So, Philly could have taken QL from us.

On the way back up it's even worse. QL will have to clear waivers again. This time, if Philly claims him, they only have to pay half his contracted salary. The Caps pay the balance. This is probably why we will not see QL this year.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 7, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I am afraid QL will not be traded either. If someone wanted him, they could have taken him for no cost other than salary. That is the point of waivers, if one team has older players that are not good enough for that team, other teams can take him to improve theirs. He is on a veterans minimum salary, so he would come cheap.

Posted by: Rich C | October 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Pettinger was apparently waived by the Canucks. McLaren was waived by the sharks. Now before everyone asks, McLaren's cap number is 2.5 million and no we can not afford him

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 7, 2008 2:46 PM

Way to stay ahead of the bandwagon/fantasy pack Sombrero Guy...*hat's off to you*

Posted by: mike b | October 7, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Great Seats.
Who cares. Why don't you put it at $1 with no reserve to get people bidding on it as opposed to pawning it off on people that already have tickets...

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't McPhee supposed to have had a Media conference by now? Any word on that?

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | October 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

MNMNT,

feel free to igonore my posting if you'd like. i'm pretty sure you've taken a poll of everyone on this board to determine that everyone has tickets and nobody would be interested in buying anymore. judging by the level of interest in the tickets, i would say you would be wrong.

my apologies to all other cap fans i may have insulted by daring to offer tickets at well below face value.

Posted by: Great Seats | October 7, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

OK so he has cleared waivers which means he will be a bear for the year. Unless we call him up the he has to clear again... right. Then during that process he could be picked up by another team? How long is the waiver process 24 hours? Sorry just want to get it straight

Posted by: Bruce | October 7, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Great Seats.

Be a man.

Put it on Ebay for $1. No Reserve.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Actually I may be wrong about re-entry waivers. I am not sure how much he makes as a Bear and that determines re-entry. Otherwise we can yo-yo him up and down without further waivers as long as we don't keep him up too long.

Great seats
Do It Man
$1

how do we know they are below face value, you have not stated what the seats cost even in your ebay posting and since I am a season ticket holder, I know you don't pay what it says on the tickets! Sell them on the street man!

Posted by: Bob | October 7, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero..I just tried to read this link

http://www.nhlscap.com/waivers.htm

And I felt like my head was going to explode.

Thank god for GMGM and his trusty capologist.

Posted by: Cap Man J | October 7, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

for you Bob, $1 if you call right now!!! but wait, there's more...

you can check the caps web site if you want to know the true face value of these seats, its no secret. i'm certainly not going to advertise my cost in an auction. they are great seats, though. sorry if i offended anyone. if i have violated any rules, feel free to have my posting removed. go caps.

Posted by: Great Seats | October 7, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Great Seats.
I'll be the first to bid on the no reserve auction. You've had 44 people look at your listing. Probably all from this comments section. Looking at it twice to see if it's really worth it.

I don't think it's much of a deal to be honest.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Bob-

I have been reading over the CBA for the past hour and can't figure out how the re-entry works, but it's not salary-based.

One section says that a player who was put up for regular waivers is required to go through re-entry waivers.

Yet later on it says a player 25 or older who plays 1 or more professional games in a season is exempt from waivers for that season. We know that's not right...

This CBA is fubar'ed.

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Yup. 24 hours. Unless he's pulled up on a weekend in which case it's 48 hours.

Interesting in that now that he's cleared waivers he can now be traded or loaned to another team.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

FFS Enough

Yeah, it is FUBAR - but leave it to lawyers to do that.

My reading of the contract is different than what is on the NHLSCAP page. That was right for the year in which the CBA was written, but not subsequent years.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 7, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm ebaying my left nut on ebay. There are a bunch of left nuts out there. Happy bidding.

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=left+nut&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

haha here is the cliff notes version of re entry waivers from NHLSCAP

"..... In general, players are not subject to re-entry [recall] waivers unless:

1. The player is on a -way contract AND is subject to waivers when assigned to the minors; or
2. The player is on a 2-way contract whose minor league salary is in excess of

2007-08: $100,000
2008-09: $100,000
2009-10: $105,000
2010-11: $105,000
2011-12: $105,000

#2 above does not apply to a player who

A. If a goalie, the goalie has played in 180 or more professional games [NHL, AHL, or ECHL; regular season and playoffs] or, if a skater, 320 or more professional games; AND
B. Has not spent more than 80 games on an NHL roster in the prior 2 seasons or 40 or more games on an NHL roster in the immediately prior season.
"


How many days was Q.L. on the roster last season? He played in 39 games and was a healthy scratch for many others so I think #2 does not apply to him as he was on the roster for more than 40 games.

We THINK #1 may apply to him. He WAS subject to waivers when being sent down, but is he on a 2 way contract or a 1 way contract? And which number did NHLSCAP forget to include in their little write up?

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 7, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Greg S.

The paragraph that gets me is in 13.4, A few paragraphs in:
"A Player 25 years old or older who plays in one (1) or more Professional
Games in any season shall be exempt from Regular Waivers and Re-Entry Waivers for
the remainder of that season."

Does that mean that as soon as QL plays a minute of a bears game, he is exempt for the rest of the season, where a guy like... Flash would have to clear waivers each and every time? WTF!?

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 7, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

@ Great Seats

Those of us who don't have season tickets already are not likely to be able to afford the $1,600.00 price tag for your super ten game plan.

If you go no reserve price and start at $1, I promise you that I will bid on them up until $12.93.

Posted by: Cap Man J | October 7, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

MNMNT,
if you can find better seats at a better price, please show me. $80/per seat for center ice is pretty good. if you're not interested or can't afford it, then move along.

Cap Man J, again, your opinon but perhaps not shared by all. again, move along. oh look, a new post...

Posted by: Great Seats | October 7, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

From my read, it's 13.4 "Exempt players" who have reached age 25 or over and are 1 year out from signing. He signed many moons ago.

Also: "a player 25 years old or older who plays in one or more Professional Games in the 2005-06 season will be exempt from Regular and Re-entry waivers as follows:
05-06 season Exempt from regular/re-entry
06-07 season Eligible for regular/re-entry"

Since he was on the roster and played last year, my take is that he has to pass through both this year.

But there's probably a weasel clause in there somewhere...

Posted by: Greg S. | October 7, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Great Seats.
Actually I can get seats for that price for the games that I actually want to see. Not your leftover carp.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

MNMNT, enjoy the game from the upper deck. if you think weekend games vs buffalo, toronto, new jersey, tampa and boston plus the flyers are "carp", then i have some tuesday panther tickets you might like.

Posted by: Great Seats | October 7, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dummy.
I already have my passes. No one wants your leftover games from your plan. If they did, it would have been sold by now. Get over yourself.

If it was such a "great" deal to people, it would have been gone in two minutes. No one wants your leftover crap. Carp. Crap. Who cares. What fan sells half their tickets anyways? Good luck selling those tickets. No one is going to buy them from a nobody like you.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

How about a reverse auction? You keep lowering the price until someone buys them? I admit that I looked at the auction to see what you were offering...if you really wanted to sell them, you might be better off telling people how much YOU paid and how much a NEW STH would have to pay...No one pays face value - not even Pens fans

Posted by: half off | October 7, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

well, MNMNT, if you've already got your passes, then why do you care if i'm selling mine. sounds like you might be a tad jealous that you paid more for upper deckers than you could have from me. either way, keep your insults to yourself. i have respectfully responded to your questions.

half off, anyone can go on the caps web site and see what a full STH pays for center preferred seats. the rub is, you can't get center ice seats like this from the caps. and you certainly can't get them in a 10 game plan. 11 game plans start at 2100 plus for 2 tix. face value is 105 and believe it or not, some people do pay more than face for many games.

Posted by: Great Seats | October 7, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Jealous?
haha, of what? I've sat center ice 10 rows up, I've sat up against the glass.

You selling 20 games at center ice on Ebay and consider yourself a fan? Yeah. Hardly jealous. I'm jealous that you have a lot of friends that are clawing each other for the chance to buy those tickets at such a great deal. Boohoohoo.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

And hey buddy... Guess what.

Guess how much I paid for the center ice tickets and the glass seats? Zilch.

Who's the sucka now.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 7, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

dude, you've got anger issues. i am looking to sell tickets to other cap fans and somehow you get your panties in a wad. i'm really glad you have (past tense) sat in these seats and up against the glass. and i'm glad your daddy bought them for you. i'm sure you'll be able to go for free lots of times this year. maybe you'll even pay for a game out of your own pocket like a big boy. don't worry about what i do.

i'm not some teenager who really cares about some annonomous poster calling me names or questioning my fan credentials. these tickets will be sold. they do every year. i'll end up going to many games and enjoying the season. i wish you the best.

Posted by: Great Seats | October 7, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

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