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Live: Chat about the Caps' Game 7 loss

Post reporter Gene Wang is online now to discuss the Caps' stunning first-round playoff exit.

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By Lindsay Applebaum  |  April 28, 2010; 9:38 PM ET
 
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There is no crying in hockey!

Posted by: FusilliJerry1 | April 28, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

THERE ARE NO EXCUSES.

THEY WERE THE BETTER TEAM.

We had 3 games to win 1.

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Mike Green! There's no denying who the worst defenseman in the league is...Pathetic bastard

Posted by: 850-850 | April 28, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

This team is embarrassing. I can't believe I wasted all this time this season watching them. There's another notch in the loss column for 7 game series.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

who wants to chat?????? I say boycott the chat....I'm too pissed right now to do anything.

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 28, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

So is Bruce finally going to answer all those Mike Green questions now?!?!?

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Nananana-nananana-hey-hey-hey....goodbye ! Congrats to the Caps on a good season ! You won your division , your conference and the President's cup or trophy or whatever it's called. The league will probably give Ovie some kind of individual trophy since he didn't win the scoring title or Rocket Richard this year. See ya next year !

Posted by: jerryc57 | April 28, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Offense wins championships, right?

Defense + goaltending comes first.

You need to be able to score goals but defense comes first.

Our offensive minded forwards and offesive minded defensemen will never learn to play better defense in this system.

We need to learn to play team defense.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

ov just got schooled.....40 blocked shots by the habs and we just kept doing the same things.......semin is useless and green is horrible......

Posted by: wendel2 | April 28, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I watched it, but still can't believe it. I'd have gladly put a thousand dollars on the Caps for this series, and would have gone another thousand on tonight's game. This sucks. Was really hoping for a Pens/Caps conference final.

My condolences to all die hards. I know it's a pretty dark night.

Jeff

Posted by: PensFan98 | April 28, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm so sad and disappointed. I really thought we'd make it to at least the ECF this year. Obviously I was wrong. This is going to be a long and bitter offseason. BUT if GMGM finally gets us the defenseman and second-line center we need, maybe it will have been worth it. Congrats to the Habs--they earned it.

ANYBODY BUT PITTSBURGH!

Posted by: wocoliz | April 28, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

lol I guess I should've been more specific when I said Green would have a good game. I meant to say for Montreal.

Well I look forward to us losing again next season! C-A-P-S Caps Caps Caps?

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | April 28, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

unbeleivable mediocrity.... wow that really sucked..time to rebuild again...thanks again for breaking my heart again and again and again and again... 36 years of agains...

Posted by: dskelly1 | April 28, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

CSN BETTER HAVE BRUCE'S POSTGAME CONFERENCE!!!! HE BETTER ANSWER SOME F***IN QUESTIONS!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Now all of the Caps fans get to see what a REAL captain and MVP can do......LETS GO PENS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jerryc57 | April 28, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

This loss is on Boudreau, not the players. Montreal's system beat the Caps system. This was obvious from the start of the series and Boudreau failed to make the necessary adjustments.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

What a series....Halak proved once again that a hot goalie takes the cake regardless of your "O"

Well done Montreal....terrible call on the goalie interference, but we shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with.

Still can't believe Martin benched Halak in game 4.

Back to the remainder of my 330 days of the year...

Posted by: AyresGoober | April 28, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Keep Green, just move him up, out of the back line and get rid of Semin. Trade Seming for and a draft pick or something for some quality defenseman or something.

Posted by: FusilliJerry1 | April 28, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

BB needs to go. He was out-coached this series. But we still had a chance if it weren't for Green and the Refs.

Posted by: ExPatYankee | April 28, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Jeff, for being a voice of reason. Sorry I dissed your team. I just wish we could have gotten through to the next round like they did.

Posted by: wocoliz | April 28, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I feel like I just break up with someone. It really hurts. Damn Caps!!! regular season don't mean jack carp.

Posted by: instinct227 | April 28, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

so how many mike green questions will it take for bruce to storm out of this press conference?

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Boy am I ever glad Semin gets another 6 million next year. Sure would rather have his 1 assist in the playoffs over two 3 million dollar players who actually care.

The one good thing? OV will now learn to shut his mouth after trash talking Halak.

Posted by: Aldred15 | April 28, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Well so much for another season. And all because GM GM won't play Theo cause he doesn't want to re-sign Theo's contract!

Should of had it in 5....

Posted by: rovingbandit | April 28, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Give Montreal some credit. They didn't panic after going down 3-1 and whatever adjustments they made certainly worked. Halak was outstanding. If you thought the Caps were winning a Cup w/ that defense and goaltending, you were seriously deluding yourself.

Posted by: randysbailin | April 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Pittsburgh rolls from here, IMO

Back to the Cup while the caps are still crapping in a bucket.

unbelievable.

Posted by: AyresGoober | April 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I jus...I just can't believe this happened. This series was over the moment it went 2-0 in game five. I just can't believe this.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

BB needs to go. He's been out-coached this series. But we still had a chance if it weren't for Green and the Refs.

Posted by: ExPatYankee | April 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

LOTs of bickering and finger pointing now....Winning during the regular season is a LOT easier than winning in the playoffs, 'specially playing in the Southleast division. Got to be able to play some "D" too.

Posted by: jerryc57 | April 28, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"The Business of Happiness..."

"A generationally great team..."

Who needs good defensive team discipline.

Let's just focus on stretch passes and run-and-gun hockey.

You have to be able to win some 1-0 and 2-1 games in the playoffs. We don't have the discipline, the habits or the personnel to win those kinds of games.

This was your creation, GMGM.

This was your style of play and the one-dimensional habits you allowed the players to develop, BB.

You allowed us to become the Phoenix Suns of the NHL with those hires, Teddy.

At least the building is sold out for next season. We'll just continue to play risky, one-way hockey and not worry about the little things unless there are serious changes.

Your move, Ted.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

LOTs of bickering and finger pointing now....Winning during the regular season is a LOT easier than winning in the playoffs, 'specially playing in the Southleast division. Got to be able to play some "D" too. LETS GO PENS>>>>>LETS GO PENS!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jerryc57 | April 28, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

You can't blame Varly too much. Guy really hasn't had a bunch of games under his belt after being injured and the defense hung him out to dry a bit as well. Are there goals he should have had? Yes. But you can't pin the losses on him anymore than you can put it on OV. It is on all of them and it wasn't just one thing.

Posted by: FusilliJerry1 | April 28, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@ tmac2yao

Why don't you share your theory with the Preds and Sabres. I'm sure they'd love to hear how you think they should be in the 2nd round instead of on the golf course. THE HABS SCORED 2 GOALS!

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Umberger was absolutely right.

Yzerman was absolutely right.

This isn't the AHL, Bruce. You can't get away with not playing the right way in all 3 zones at this level.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm curious to see how the Pens handle Montreal. But I doubt any of their goals will get waved off.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Offense wins championships, right?

Defense + goaltending comes first.

You need to be able to score goals but defense comes first.

Our offensive minded forwards and offesive minded defensemen will never learn to play better defense in this system.

We need to learn to play team defense.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse
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Well put.

Posted by: elicea | April 28, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Boudreau: 1-3 in playoff series

He NEEDS to change his philosophy.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

trade ov and green for crosby and orpik.

Posted by: OhnoitsAlexo | April 28, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

i hope all you guys still on the "bandwagon" can finally realize the team isnt a playoff team.

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,LET'S GO PENS,

Posted by: jerryc57 | April 28, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

i'm only thing that's keeping me from not wanting to kill someone is because sadly i knew this was going to happen. i'm so used to it, such a shame.

BB is really gonna have to go back to coaching school and learn how to make adjustments. he really let us down being so set in his ways.

Posted by: natresgroup | April 28, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

This choke job will rank right up there with the 74-75 Bullets loss to the Golden ST.Warriors in the NBA championship. The Bullets were overwhelming favorites to sweep the Warriors and bring a championship to DC but they ran into a buzzsaw and were swept themselves four straight,leading 3-1 the Cap's were supposedly in the drivers seat but the Canadiens looked at each other and said "we got em right where we want em" and they did, unbelievable!!!40 plus shot's on goal and only one lit the lamp.This will be a long offseason to be sure and a lot of soul searching will take place on this team the big question is how will this play on this team's psyche?.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 28, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

When the Caps were down 1-0 in this game, the game seemed to be over. For the most part, they were unable to crack Montreal's defense.

Posted by: randysbailin | April 28, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

unbeleivable mediocrity.... wow that really sucked..time to rebuild again...thanks again for breaking my heart again and again and again and again... 36 years of agains...

Posted by: dskelly1 | April 28, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I've been a fan and had season tickets for the past 10 years. I feel like I've died on the inside....I can't imagine being a fan for 36 years....I'd be on the top of a building with a high powered rifle....

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 28, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

This loss is on Boudreau, not the players. Montreal's system beat the Caps system. This was obvious from the start of the series and Boudreau failed to make the necessary adjustments.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 9:50 PM

Exactly. On the second goal, Green misplayed the puck but there was no backcheck because the top line was on the ice. You know, the ones that played the entire 3rd period.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

The worst part is I had to explain to my boys that this is just what it means to be a Caps fan. I tried breaking it to them gently after Game 6 that the Caps were destined to lose tonight because that is just what they do. Birds fly, bees sting, Caps break your heart in the most spectacular chokes imaginable. This has been going on for 25 years. To provide context, it was like rooting for the Red Sox before 2004. I was really hoping they would never understand what it means to support a team like that.

They need a big bruising Cup-tested defenseman. And maybe a heart transplant. And apparently the critics were right that they are all sizzle and no steak.

Posted by: haunches | April 28, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Green choked in the playoffs again.

Posted by: JPDC39 | April 28, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

The better team won. PERIOD.

And what a quiet building the caps play in. Sounded like a library through most of the series.

Bring back the white pants! LOL

Posted by: GrooveMctwang | April 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

C H O K E

Posted by: koscold | April 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

The Habs are a poor offensive team that scored at least 2 goals in 6 of the 7 games.

I believe they also scored the first goal in 6 of the 7 games.

If they wanted to play are one-dimensional style and not worry about defense, they probably could've scored more goals.

They play the right way in all 3 zones.

I'm not even sure that the Caps play right in 1 zone.

High risk, high reward doesn't cut it.

You need to play low risk hockey at this level and dedicate your team to doing the right things in all 3 zones. You have to teach a team the right habits from day one.

Ovechkin will never take the next step in his development as a more complete player with this much freedom and lack of accountability.

The same goes for Green and Semin and others.

We need to be able to shut teams down, defensively, the way that Montreal did to us.

If Montreal was anything but the worst even-strength team in the league, we wouldn't have even made it to Game 7.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

This loss is on Boudreau, not the players. Montreal's system beat the Caps system. This was obvious from the start of the series and Boudreau failed to make the necessary adjustments.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 9:50 PM

Perfectly said.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm speechless. I can't take this anymore. Every year it's disappointment. Redskins, Wizards, Nats suck. (Well not right now.) The Caps were the ONE thing, the ONE thing that D.C. had going and they choke. Everyone got into the Caps. Everyone dreamed for a long run but everyone ends up disappointed again.

It kills me. To think about all the great times I had watching this team in the regular season, all the heart-stopping comebacks, the 14 game win streak, the sweep of the Penguins, President's Trophy, the most wins ever, the most points ever, (the first non original six team to earn over 120 points), the most goals, team records, individual records... it goes on forever. I just can't believe it's over.

It all goes back to when we let them crawl back into the series when we didn't close it out in game 5. Some players just didn't step up (mainly Semin, Green, and Flash.) We need our main scorers to score and it boggles me that Semin finished the entire series with ZERO goals. NADA. The PP (one of our strengths) killed us in this series. What we did in games 2, 3, and 4 worked so well. We found the way to beat Halak, but why did we revert to shooting from the blue line and not really creating traffic? I'm speechless.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

1. all you stupid stupid washington bandwagon fans, I told all of you after game 5 that this series was over, the caps are the phoenix suns. I have been a caps fan for over 25 years, stick it to all you stupid idiots calling us bandwagon fans when we told you this series was over, if you are a smart and intelligent hockey fan you know how to read a series, "stop being so pessimistic", it's call realistic. this isn't your son's mite hockey game. keep learning about the history of hockey and stop with your "unleash the fury". as i said before, get off the kool aid and learn how to read a series.

Posted by: beachhotel | April 28, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

PS.

Watch the HABS slay the PENGUWANS.

And we're welcoming Caps fans now to our 100th year Stanley Cup bandwagon.

Posted by: GrooveMctwang | April 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

1. all you stupid stupid washington bandwagon fans, I told all of you after game 5 that this series was over, the caps are the phoenix suns. I have been a caps fan for over 25 years, stick it to all you stupid idiots calling us bandwagon fans when we told you this series was over, if you are a smart and intelligent hockey fan you know how to read a series, "stop being so pessimistic", it's call realistic. this isn't your son's mite hockey game. keep learning about the history of hockey and stop with your "unleash the fury". as i said before, get off the kool aid and learn how to read a series.

Posted by: beachhotel | April 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Now that's entertainment! Well BB can go and get some crow in an Edsell. He was outclassed by Jaques Martin.

The upside is we don't have to pay Semin, Flash and Green any huge salaries (if we keep them).

Well done Montreal, good luck against the Penguins.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

This loss is on Boudreau, not the players. Montreal's system beat the Caps system. This was obvious from the start of the series and Boudreau failed to make the necessary adjustments.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 9:50 PM

Correct. NO WAY in the world you have your team go what now, 1/33? Okay MTL did a great job defending us but we had the NUMBER 1 PP in the league and BB is the one that's gotta make adjustments. Change SOMETHING. The PP absolutely STUNK.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

like the old joke goes, what's red and white and blue and plays golf every April? Consistently disappointing--that will be engraved on the Capitals' tombstone. That, or chokers of historic NHL proportions. Glad I've never gotten into these guys very much.

Posted by: rdptdp2 | April 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Someone should send a message to Semin that the playoffs have come and gone. Did he even play? I saw some guy wearing his number skating up and down the ice, so it must've been him.

Posted by: randysbailin | April 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

"the fact that the series wasn't over until after Game 7. Now it is, and I'll be the first to say the Caps should be completely embarrassed and ashamed of how the series ended. There is no excuse whatsoever to lose three in a row, especially two in their building."

-Geno

There really is nothing else to say. You said it all Geno.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

What the hell happened to the power play?! 1-for-30+, I believe is what Joe B. said.

Posted by: elicea | April 28, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

classic...Chimera:

"If someone came to your work, stepped on your desk and punched you in the head, how would you feel?"

Posted by: AyresGoober | April 28, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

for those of you who want to see the pens beat montreal i give you a resounding WTF!

I don't EVER want to see the pens win anything! All of the pens can get syphilis for all i care. F the pens!

Posted by: natresgroup | April 28, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

2. Mike green is a complete choke artist, his game is a joke. he never shoots low he always shoots high, watch any video of mike green and you will see goalies immediately go high when he shoots, he is unable to change his game up and that is why he is mediocure... when the puck goes deep in the zone he goes right for the hit doesn't play the puck it cost us on the second goal, he does it all the time, this is why he isn't an olypmic play and this is why he will never be a great defensive player, he doesn't have the ability to change his game, he is a one tool player who is too busy updating his website and getting tatoos he is a joker. how can you be a professional and not have the ability to change your game

Posted by: beachhotel | April 28, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

The Curse of Scott Stevens is alive and well

Posted by: thetick73 | April 28, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Not surprising at all. Since Rod Langway, the Caps always wished they could be the Pens, but they remain, as an organization and fan base, a bunch of Choking Dogs (h/t to Tony K.). They badmouthed Lemieux, they badmouth Sid. Well, as usual, the Caps are limited to yelling at the TV during the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Posted by: observer23 | April 28, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

CHOKE!!! That's as bad as I've seen since Montreal (again?!?), with Ken Dryden on his maiden voyage, beat the record-setting (look it up - Phil Esposito scored 76 goals in 1970-71 at a time when Gretzky was still in grade school), prohibitive-favorite Bruins in the first round in 1971. Meanwhile, as I constantly remind Sharks fans who I know out here in Northern CA, the regular season doesn't matter, especially for teams with the physical talent and gaudy regular-season stats that the Caps have. Meanwhile, the Bruins, who on 4/1 looked in danger of missing the playoffs entirely, have home ice in the next round while the Caps will be GOLFING. Good night and make it a good summer, Caps fans. And BTW, that in-the-crease call that cost the Caps a goal? Good call, even though they don't call it anymore; the goal crease DOES matter after all. I remember the 1998 B's-Caps series during which Boston lost an OT game (that turned the series) in which that in-the-crease thing came into play. Do you?

Posted by: Bruins51070 | April 28, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

What's red, white and blue and plays golf in April?

Choking dogs.

Posted by: Burgundy | April 28, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

They played the entire game like it was the last minute. Rushing shots, not making many plays at all. No wonder Montreal blocked so many shots. Its easy when you know that as soon as a Cap touches the puck in the offensive zone, a shot is coming. When we actually tried to play as a team, we dominated but that didnt happen very much. They need some players that will calm them down. They need more players with a voice of reason. I thought Knuble could be one of these players but even he wasnt enough as the team still played all over the place. ITs a sad day to be a Cap fan...

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 28, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

First off, what team would want Granny after this performance? He's the Capitals Bill Buckner. More shakes than an 80 year old with Parkinson's. What team would want Semin the Enigma? The guy chooses to live in his mythical fantasy world and not speak the local language and communicate with the world. P.T. Barnum may have a good use for him.

Posted by: DexterMorgan | April 28, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

@rachel216 -- Agreed. Montreal was also superior 5-on-5. The Caps have really struggled against the trap all year. Montreal and New Jersey were the two teams in the east the Caps did not match up well against.

I like Boudreau a lot but I honestly don't know if he's a smart enough hockey coach to take this team all the way. Would a better 2nd line center and better defenseman have won this series? NO. The Habs suffocated the Caps offense through superior system play and penalty killing. This is why the Caps lost.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Different players, different owner, same old result. This organization is cursed.

Also, I'd trade Mike Green for Hal Gill in a second. Green is the most overrated d-man in the league.

Posted by: brihobbs | April 28, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

No heart.OVerated.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 28, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

If I owned this team, I don't make major personnel changes. I add FINALLY a top tier defensemen and a more consistent second line center. I trade Mike Green perhaps for the second line center and I fire BB. They need a coach that preaches responsibility all over the ice. And, why did we add all those forwards if they weren't used. Walker should have played for Flash starting in game 4. Erskine should have played this series and probably in place of Green. I've never in my life seen a worse playoff performance than Green has put in the last 2 seasons. He is PATHETIC!

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 28, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

pitiful. absolutely disgusting.

See you guys around draft day.. I don't think I want to discuss hockey until then....

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

"The Business of Happiness..."

"A generationally great team..."

Who needs good defensive team discipline.

Let's just focus on stretch passes and run-and-gun hockey.

You have to be able to win some 1-0 and 2-1 games in the playoffs. We don't have the discipline, the habits or the personnel to win those kinds of games.

This was your creation, GMGM.

This was your style of play and the one-dimensional habits you allowed the players to develop, BB.

You allowed us to become the Phoenix Suns of the NHL with those hires, Teddy.

At least the building is sold out for next season. We'll just continue to play risky, one-way hockey and not worry about the little things unless there are serious changes.

Your move, Ted.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse


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tmac2yao--

You just read my mind. I don't even have to post.


Here's what Ted needs to do. GMGM and BB need to go. You want to slay the dragon? Cut-off its head.

They should do that while the team is still young, and we have people in the system. We are still a very young team.

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

@GrooveMctwang,

Good luck against the Penguins. You can keep your bandwagon.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Curse of Scott Stevens

Posted by: thetick73 | April 28, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

This is about a lot more than any individual players that came up empty in this series.

It's on GMGM for not addressing those things over the last several years.

It's about a coach who doesn't teach players to play the right way.

Talent alone doesn't win you championships. There are a ton of teams with elite talent.

The difference is how you organize that talent and teach players to work together as a team and make the right plays all over the ice.

The Caps do not play the right way as far as team defense. It's clear that they aren't taught enough defensive discipline by the mistakes they make repeatedly. It may be partly a lack of good defensive players (forwards and defensemen) but it's also a lack of good habits and a GM and owner that are allowing them to play this way.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

What went wrong?

Disrespect to their opponents from the players, coaching staff... and some fans.

Maybe this will serve as a lesson of humility.

Do never underestimate an opponent. That's the difference between Crosby and OV and that's why Crosby won the world's junior against OV a couple years ago, then the playoffs on his way to the cup and what about the olympics.

You may hate him but Crosby is on the winning side.

The Caps are a sum of good players but not a team. That's the reason why they lost.

I like the Caps playing style in the regular season and I started reading the Capitals insider last year. In the last week, I was disapointed to see some of you calling us frogs ans smelly french. I do respect the US and I'm looking forward to visit Washington someday.

No hard feelings. I wish you a great summer, maturity to OV and a good offseason work to your GMGM

For the 2010-2011 season, RESPECT the opponents

Sincerely,
Your northern french neighbor!

Posted by: dmartin3 | April 28, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

You can't spell Ovechkin without the letters C-H-O-K-E. The reason why this team will never win is simple. With about 8 mintes left in the game , a loose puck was in the Habs neutral zone . A two -on -one should have resulted , but Greene and Semin were both too busy tapping their sticks on the ice to go and get the puck. Teamwork?

Posted by: jerryc57 | April 28, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and for those who would want to crack on the Bruins chances: Go right ahead. They're "playing with house money" from here on; the pressure's off and they have nothing to lose.

Posted by: Bruins51070 | April 28, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

you don't blow up the team, you take the pieces given to you and you bring in a GM who understands how to provide more balance to the org.

we don't need rebuilding, we need someone intelligent enough who understands certain concepts. McPhee does not. Thank him for stocking this org with some skill and then go add the other pieces. We're about 5 players away, 3 on D, 2 upfront esp at center.

and maybe a coach.........i like the job that Mark French has done in Hershey. He gets it. His teams play balls out hockey.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 28, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

No heart.OVerated.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 28, 2010 10:12 PM |
I know you're just a troll and everything, but if there is ONE Caps player who gave his heart out there today, it's our Captain.

Everyone else, and especially our entire defensive corps minus Carlson, can go f*** themselves.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

At Least Green HUSTLED BACK and tried to break up the Montreal Rush on the 2nd goal. Carlson simply cruised back and did not even try to catch the puck carrier. Had he even skated HALF Speed he could have easlily got to that puck that Green freed up with his hustle and check. I agree that Green had his Struggles but Carlson is trying to be a Green and is out of position and caught up ice WAY TOO MUCH. Just lucky there werent more goals scored because of his out of position play. Most day if they got beat like he did in Montreal and then just COASTED back when it was obvious that it was 2 on 1 on Green they would NEVER see the ice again.

Posted by: hockeycoach2009 | April 28, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

why is everyone down on ShaMo? He's got a bad elbow and he was playing his guts out?

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 28, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

k wait. how many people thought we had a serious shot at the cup?

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The bad news is that this opens it up for the Penguins to get to the SC finals - unless Mtrl can stop them of course.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

as someone just said... who would take semin or green or flash for that matter?

we need volchenkov! and a coach that isn't too stubborn to make adjustments. BB you stubborn old bastard, you got out-coached. we are the laughing stock of the NHL, it's such a f'n shame too.

what happens now? honestly... what do we do? how do we move on from this? We are a predictable hockey team. what do we do? i'm sorry, i'm just stunned.

Posted by: natresgroup | April 28, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

maybe we can somehow get buffalo to trade miller for green,flash,neuvy.


okay ill stop dreaming

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

In their own way, Bruce, GM and Ted deserve this. They could barely hide their smugness on how confident they were that they went about it the right way.

couldn't happen to 3 more deserving people imo

Reality's a bieaayyaaaatch.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Yes, well said Geno. You score 1 goal in game 7 at your own place? The best regular season home team let Montreal come into Verizon Center and take 3 out of 4 games... yeah home ice advantage. The Moore goal was so deflating, especially when we came back and scored. We were working so hard to get that one goal to tie then Moore makes Green and Carlson look foolish. I thought, it's only fitting that a breakdown cost us since that was the winning goal. Then again, I still think the refs screwed up the no goal on Ovechkin. I'm not blaming it on that but that was a huge point in the game. I have to see the replay again but I thought he brushed him just a bit AFTER the puck was already in the net.

I'm upset we won't have the chance to play the Flyers. I think we match up great with them. Let's see if PIT absolutely destroys MTL.

Is it time to start changing this system? I mean, Boston and Montreal moved onto the second round, that says a lot. Both teams can't really score but they have a good defense and goalie. Hate to say it, but RJ Umberger was 100% correct. This run and gun offense DOES NOT work in the playoffs. We need to concede a bit on offense and focus on defense. But tmac2yao said it best, these players don't know how to play defense because they have played run and gun all their life. I don't know... but clearly "defense wins championships," it can't be anymore true.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Go Detriot!!! Hope you guys win the SC

Posted by: instinct227 | April 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

What went wrong?

Disrespect to their opponents from the players, coaching staff... and some fans.

Maybe this will serve as a lesson of humility.

Do never underestimate an opponent. That's the difference between Crosby and OV and that's why Crosby won the world's junior against OV a couple years ago, then the playoffs on his way to the cup and what about the olympics.

You may hate him but Crosby is on the winning side.

The Caps are a sum of good players but not a team. That's the reason why they lost.

I like the Caps playing style in the regular season and I started reading the Capitals insider last year. In the last week, I was disapointed to see some of you calling us frogs ans smelly french. I do respect the US and I'm looking forward to visit Washington someday.

No hard feelings. I wish you a great summer, maturity to OV and a good offseason work to your GMGM

For the 2010-2011 season, RESPECT the opponents

Sincerely,
Your northern french neighbor!

Posted by: dmartin3 | April 28, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Respected you from the outset. Knew it wasn't going to be easy. Good luck moving on in the playoffs. I'll be watching :)

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 28, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

k wait. how many people thought we had a serious shot at the cup?

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 10:18 PM |

This year, I wasn't expecting the big trophy. However, I also wasn't expecting a first round exit.

As for ShaMo, his defensive coverage off the rush was just as bad as any other d-man for us. So he hit people on the forecheck, great job ShaMo, how about not letting people take wide-open slappers off the rush.

This team....I don't know...but this team, I just can't handle. Snake bitten franchise, it seems.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I think we need to where loin clothes and sacrifice a goat at center ice to break the curse on this orginasation.

Or, was it the fact that the Habs kept there feet moving and the Caps glided on the back check and stood still on the pp?

Most of the core 'talent' on this team does not play with emotion. I have been beat up on this board before for this but I hope some people may be seeing the same thing I have seen all year.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | April 28, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

good deadline moves McPheee you freakin genius. I bet he's already looking to gather up some more offense. You know..since we had a hard time scoring and all. Nylander round 3 here we come

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm going for the Sharks to win the whole thing. I'm tired of finals with Detroit and Pittsburgh. I hope Pittsburgh finds a way through Halak though. I'd like to see that.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

This loss has nothing to do with Mike Green or Semin. It's Boudreau's fault.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully someone in the West wins the Cup.

I wasted so many hours on this team.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

@dmartin3,

When you come down here I would like you to kiss my butt. Have a nice day.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

But wait, this must be a mistake. All those stats posted by geeks on this site before the playoffs began mathematically PROVED that the Caps would win!

Next year, don't waste your time -or ours - by telling us how many goals we score per minute by shift on the power play on the road against Eastern Conference Teams.

Those numbers mean less than Semin's and Green's playoff production combined.

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | April 28, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm going for the Sharks to win the whole thing. I'm tired of finals with Detroit and Pittsburgh. I hope Pittsburgh finds a way through Halak though. I'd like to see that.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

same, but only because we'll be known as the sharks of the east. and if they win, maybe its not such a bad thing. haha

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

for everyone worried about Green and ShaMo, you do realize that they played a lot better than most of the Habs D who spend 80% of the last 2 games in their own end runnin around.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

A final goodnite everyone....Looking again toward next season. I really don't want to hear about hockey for another 3 months. Goodnite all, it was a great season chatting with everyone.

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

HEY HEY HEY GOOD BYE !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

This loss has nothing to do with Mike Green or Semin. It's Boudreau's fault.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

are you drunk??? someone cut this guy off he is obviously drunk and blind and that is dangerous for the public

Posted by: beachhotel | April 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Coaches systems do not beat a goaltender that is unconscious. When you outshoot a team 100-30 in 2 games and lose there is a lot of good things happening with the systems- how many teams ever average 50 shots on net over 2 games??? Montreal players just wanted it more. blocking 40 shots in a game doesnt have much to do with systems - it has to do with Players giving it 110% and doing whatever it takes.

Posted by: hockeycoach2009 | April 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

This has been coming all year long. The Caps have played sloppy all year, relying on individual effort instead of playing a team game. When some fans criticized others just said "We're #1 in the league so we must be the best. In BB we trust." Well, how did that work out?

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

k wait. how many people thought we had a serious shot at the cup?

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 10:18 PM

I thought we had a good chance. (Shows you how much I know.) I thought AT LEAST Eastern Conference finals.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

This was a devastating blow to this organization on multiple levels. This first round loss represented an abrupt end to the progress over the last few years. In many ways, it tells you that a lot of our players and our style of play are fool's gold. The players that our GM has put together and the habits and systems in place are clearly not conducive to playoff hockey.

There are examples in lots of sports of teams that excel in the regular season but can't get over the hump.

The playoffs are absolutely a different animal. Not only does the game tighten up but you learn about players' characters. My guess is that we don't play a style of hockey that matches up with that tighter style of play and we also probably lack enough players with the right character for postseason hockey.

No, there is no curse.

Yes, we can win a championship some day.

We won't do it though without making a lot more changes than a lot of us thought we needed to make just a few weeks ago.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Norris Trophy? Nope: wrong.

Two Words: Green Sucks

Posted by: hlalor | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I have to avoid every single sports network for the next couple of days...maybe weeks...

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

This loss has nothing to do with Mike Green or Semin. It's Boudreau's fault.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

you're right green's play today had nothing to do with the loss. absolutely nothing...

Posted by: beachhotel | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

and somewhere Nylander is counting his money and quietly laughing to himself.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | April 28, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I hope this loss wakes up GMGM and the boys in the office.

Oh wait, we DO need defense! Duh!

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

C H O K E

C H O K E

C H O K E

Posted by: koscold | April 28, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

For those of you bashing Mike Green, just stop. When Green tried to improve his defense around game 3, BB told him to forget the defense and score some goals. Great coaching!

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

We are the Phoenix Suns of the NHL and Ovechkin is the equivalent of Carmelo Anthony or Tracy McGrady at this point. Crosby is Dwayne Wade with help.

BTW, the stupid after show on VS did make an interesting point. The Caps were considered, perhaps, the highest seed in the entire playoffs and the Canadians were considered the overall worse team to make the playoffs. That puts the 3-1 series lead chock in an even better perspective.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 28, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say I told ya so ....nah I love to say ....I TOLD YA SO! ....Now get rid of the clown OV the pretty boy Semin and find a goaltender ...of you will forever be the team that "WAS"

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

"Haha! The team you root for, probably because you were born into it, lost! My words on the internet will certainly make you feel bad!"

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I thought we had a good chance. (Shows you how much I know.) I thought AT LEAST Eastern Conference finals.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

lol, i didnt get my hopes up, but i was definately expecting us to get through the first round though.

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I just heard BB say that Montreal played the perfect game and that he thought the Caps played the perfect game too. I just don't get it. And obviously he doesnt either.

Caps = skill

Montreal = team

Montreal wins series in 7

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 28, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

"
This loss has nothing to do with Mike Green or Semin. It's Boudreau's fault.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

you're right green's play today had nothing to do with the loss. absolutely nothing...

Posted by: beachhotel | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse"


Green plays Boudreau's system. Green can be very defensively sound when he commits to it but that's not what Boudreau asks him to do.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

We are the Phoenix Suns of the NHL and Ovechkin is the equivalent of Carmelo Anthony or Tracy McGrady at this point. Crosby is Dwayne Wade with help.

BTW, the stupid after show on VS did make an interesting point. The Caps were considered, perhaps, the highest seed in the entire playoffs and the Canadians were considered the overall worse team to make the playoffs. That puts the 3-1 series lead chock in an even better perspective.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 28, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

hmmmmmm has someone said this in previous days.... hmmmm

Posted by: beachhotel | April 28, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan Warner said it BEST during the postgame show. We've heard this team talk so much about how they want to get the bad taste out from last year's game 7 loss to the Pens, how they were so ready to take the next step, how they knew how hard they needed to work... blah blah blah. All this talk and nothing to back it up. Note to Mike Green: SHUT UP and STEP YOUR GAME UP. This team still has a long way to go, sadly. They are pretty cocky, saying things like "Montreal has nothing." Some guys still have some maturing to do. They totally underestimated the Canadiens and
didn't start taking them seriously until MTL was creeping back into it. Slow starts, same old habits, it goes on. THAT is the biggest disappointment.

And I don't think it's crazy to discuss BB getting fired.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I just heard BB say that Montreal played the perfect game and that he thought the Caps played the perfect game too. I just don't get it. And obviously he doesnt either.

Caps = skill

Montreal = team

Montreal wins series in 7

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 28, 2010 10:29 PM |


Neither team played a perfect game.

This series mostly consisted of the Habs playing in their own zone, either blocking shots or running around chasing our fore check.

Our defense is pitiful and our offense refused to adjust until it was too late. This is why the Caps lost.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I thought we had a good chance. (Shows you how much I know.) I thought AT LEAST Eastern Conference finals.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Well at least we agree on some things....
(Shows you how much I know.)

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Loss had nothing to do with Mike Green?

But what about:

Offensive zone penalty that lead to 1st period goal.

To say Green played "defense" in this playoff series insults blue liners.

To say Green played "offense" in this playoff series insults forwards.

Two words: Green Sucks

Posted by: hlalor | April 28, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Green plays Boudreau's system. Green can be very defensively sound when he commits to it but that's not what Boudreau asks him to do.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

yes..his best defensive work is about ahl level..thats why team canada didnt select him for the olympics, or any level for that matter. hes young and can improve hopefully

Posted by: johncaps | April 28, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I JUST READ STEVE YZERMAN is available as a GM!!!

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

MIA = SEMIN

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

OK, people, we lost. It sucked, and it doesn't give you much hope about the future. However, let's at least get what we did wrong correct. We didn't lose because of our defense, goaltending or style of play. We lost because in the last 3 games, our high-powered offense scored 3 goals...3 goals in 3 games. We lost 2 of them 2-1. We allowed 2 goals in 2 of our last 3 losses. That's not bad defense. That's not bad goaltending. That's not "playing the wrong way". It's an offense that's supposed to be the strength of the team not producing.

The real blame goes to Bruce, Semin, Flash and Green, among some others. We're not going far if Semin gets 1 assist and no goals in 7 games. Flash isn't as crucial, but still. Green, I've always shaken my head at the haters, but at this point, I wouldn't be sorry to see him go. And Bruce, as some have said, you just got outcoached. With his track record now, he has to be on the hot seat. When a team consistently doesn't show up for the big games, that's not just on the players; it's on the coach.

Now, I'm not even mildly excited for next year.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | April 28, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

How did this happen?

1. Lack of effort in games 1 and 5. Game 1 was ridiculous for a playoff game.

2. The PK. It stunk all year, it got totally exposed in the playoffs.

3. The PP disintegrated.

Lack of heart by some players too. I suspect Flash played his way out of town.

Posted by: zmega | April 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

"I just heard BB say that Montreal played the perfect game and that he thought the Caps played the perfect game too. I just don't get it. And obviously he doesnt either.

Posted by: bigschu8"


WOW. He should be fired just for saying that.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is a one trick pony and is easily defended in the playoffs.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Green plays Boudreau's system. Green can be very defensively sound when he commits to it but that's not what Boudreau asks him to do.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:30 PM |

LOL....BB's system is not forcing Green to make stupid decisions all the time. The system doesn't force Green to avoid contact if he can, usually resulting in a turnover.

GMGM and personnel issues are the problem here..not BB's system.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

@StanleyCup1907,

I'd like to meet you.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

I actually thought that Alzner played a solid game.

He was moving his legs and making smart plays.

He's already better than Green and containing a guy against the wall and using his stick to cause havoc.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Seems Ovi tried to do the "thanks fans, raise the stick salute" after the game, and no one - players or fans - joined in.

Doesn't he get that this year, that crap doesn't not fly?

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | April 28, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I sat last night and watched the Red Wings and prayed so hard the team was watching. The Wings played with poise and efficiency along with intensity. The Caps had the intensity, they really tried but do not have the poise. It will come with experience and growth. But they will never win anything in this system.

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 28, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

You lost because you have a European captain!!!! too many overseas players and no clutch goaltender HELLO!!!!!!! OV SEMIN would rather play in a world cup than the stanley cup...Get players who have a deep down hunger for a Stanley Cup

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Alzner made a handful of good plays, and a few bad ones.

Seriously, I can't stand to watch our defense if something isn't overhauled by next year. Next asst coach, new free agents, call up the kids, something because the crop of d-man we have now is just pitiful. I've never seen a whole team back up on the rush and let them take clean shots for TWO years in a row. And if they are being taught to back up, welp, we need a defensive-minded coach to shed some serious light.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

To FloridaCapsFan

Come on man!

Why are you telling me that kind of stuff?

Posted by: dmartin3 | April 28, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

The real blame goes to Bruce, Semin, Flash and Green, among some others

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex

How many goals did Ovi score in the last two games? Nick? How is it Semin, Flash, Green's or any players fault when our two best players, both considered top 10 in the league, combined for 1 point in the last 2 games? Flash didn't even play tonight. Did he suck from the press box?

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

@StanleyCup1907,

Seriously, I'd like to meet you.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

@StanleyCup1907,

I'd like to meet you.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

You have! We went to different schools together!.... remember?

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from the game. What was the story on the no goal from the TV? From the look in the arena it was BS.

Posted by: Justafan | April 28, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

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ALL I'M LOOKIN FORWARD TO NOW IS A NEW WILBON AND MIKE WISE COLUMN!!!!!!!

YEH!!!!!!!!

_-------------------------------------------

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Hell, I was a fan in the 80s. I was a fan when we got swept in our only Cup showing in the late 90s. I was a fan during the godawful early 2000s. Give me a couple months and I'll be a fan for 10/11.

Posted by: touchpointfarm | April 28, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

@dmartin3,

Just joking with you. No offense.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

BB failed to change anything. It's insanity.

38 shots = 1 goal
54 shots = 1 goal
42 shots = 1 goal
1/33 on the PP

Last three games we outshot them 134-66.
That's says something. MTL adjusted and we did not.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

we don't have a Second LINE point black period. I don't want to hear OVECHKIN is this and that if everybody tried like him we would be in good shape. As far as Gene Wang who said just said Crosby is official best and the greatest. I totally disagree.Pitt is a better team as a whole.

Posted by: vgs300 | April 28, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Green is what he is. Every player on the team played a part in the loss. But Boudreau lost the series. I would seriously consider firing him although I doubt it will happen.

The Caps were held to ONE goal in three straight games. The same Caps who led the league in scoring by a HUGE margin in the regular season. They lost two of those three by one goal and the other one would have been the same except for two empty-netters. The power play was also unfathomably terrible for the whole series. Defense was NOT the problem was the last three games.

BOUDREAU WAS OUT-COACHED.

Posted by: butcherbaker | April 28, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

@stanleycup1907- I could not agree more.Our Captain needs to be a north american player. Euros are too flakey and do not have the work ethic of Americans and Canadians.
How many times this year did ov skip the morning skate.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 28, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

@StanleyCup1907 - Thanks for taking time away from booing our National Anthem to visit our Capital's newspaper.

Posted by: touchpointfarm | April 28, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Stick a fork in me, I'm done. 20+ years of this nonsense. From the Cap Centre to the MCI Center..from the Islanders, to the Penguins, to the Habs (you have got to be kidding me) the Caps keep on finding a way to play the "hottest goal tender" or the "greatest shooter"..and always coming up on the short end. This franchise has been and always will be a bunch of choke artists and laissez faire players that can't get up for the big one. Well I'm am not wasting any more emotional capital with these boys. Go Senators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: golins4 | April 28, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

I agree with you fully about the GM and personnel issues.

I want to agree with you about Boudreau because I really like the guy but I'm losing faith.

I just don't see enough discipline and accountability across the board when it comes to defensive play on both a team and individual level.

Hopefully, it is just the bad personnel decisions but I really do feel that it's also at least in part, a coaching issue. And I don't think that it's just systems. It seems like it's that plus an inability to develop defensemen on an individual level.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from the game. What was the story on the no goal from the TV? From the look in the arena it was BS.

Posted by: Justafan | April 28, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

It was a great call he hit his skate!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Now, I'm not even mildly excited for next year.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex

Same here. Because we went through an unbelievable regular season which ended in a first round exit. Should we not get excited next year when we win a lot?

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Hell, I was a fan in the 80s. I was a fan when we got swept in our only Cup showing in the late 90s. I was a fan during the godawful early 2000s. Give me a couple months and I'll be a fan for 10/11.

Posted by: touchpointfarm | April 28, 2010 10:43 PM |

This applies to 90% of us, but it's not the issue.

Something needs to change. Personally, I would keep BB, let GMGM go if he doesn't decide to change his philosophy and go after people who can play defense.

Green can go, at this point. Bring in Regehr, a signed Volchenkov, someone.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

the caps PP was their downfall. 1 for 33 can be put partially on the players for not executing - but i think most of the blame would fall on BB. he did not seem prepared to make any adjustments in that area. i wonder if any team has ever won a playoff series where they scored more shorties and PP's?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 28, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey I dont boo anthems ....just teams

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Look, people have different tolerances for stress and two of our players who are super talented lose their cool under stres.....Green and Semin. Too bad. They are not clutch players in the playoffs. Also, BB is not a playoff coach. He is conservative and goes with what he knows. That Flash got as much ice time is shameful. BB seemed to be ignoring reality. I have a funny feeling that BB falls in love with his players and in the case of Ovie is dumbstruck in love and can't make cool headed decisions and is more a daddy to them than a hard nosed coach. Ovie played lazily for much of the playoffs and I finally saw him skate hard the whole game for the first time tonight (but to no effect). Oh well. It was an exciting season, but I am somehow not shocked by the outcome. We lack discipline and killer instinct. Why so few people dropping to the ice to block shots? It seemed to work for other teams in the playoffs!

Posted by: gocaps2009 | April 28, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Good players will always beat hard working players unless of course, the good players stop working

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 28, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I would also think that Boudreau has a lot of say in the personnel decisions made over the last few years.

GMGM doesn't work independently from Boudreau. I'm sure they are in constant discussion about team needs and what types of players fit Boudreau's style of play.

So, even if it's just personnel issues, I think that Boudreau has to share at least a little blame in that area, as well.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

How many goals did Ovi score in the last two games? Nick? How is it Semin, Flash, Green's or any players fault when our two best players, both considered top 10 in the league, combined for 1 point in the last 2 games? Flash didn't even play tonight. Did he suck from the press box?

Posted by: ablake70

Well at least Ovie and Nick they pulled their weight in this series. Nick carried us in game 2 and Ovie carried us in games 3 and 4. NOBODY could score in the last THREE games. Semin, Flash, Green didn't show up in any game. Green is not a playoff player. He never steps up. EVER. A big game and Green doesn't show up.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I just don't see enough discipline and accountability across the board when it comes to defensive play on both a team and individual level.


Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:45 PM |

This I agree with. He seems unable to buckle it down when he needs to, or put proper blame where it needs to go. He also needs to quit playing Hershey favorites, because that was a long time ago and it's time to get it done in the NHL.

I just don't think it's his system at all.

I would maybe like to see a strong-minded asst. coach come in and help BB learn a few things about defense.

GMGM's philosophy and these defenders have to go. Keep GMGM if he wants to go after Regehr or Volchenkov this off-season.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

If the team stays basically the same, it's going to be very hard to get excited for this team during the regular season regardless of their record. We'll all have this in the back of our minds if they go on a winning streak of any sort. At this point, the playoffs are all that matters. There is nothing left to prove in the stupid regular season.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

The second goal was Carlson's fault. He stop skating and left the guy open. Green made a mistake but he did take his guy out and Carlson should've continued skating back.

I'm not using it as an excuse because the Caps should've scored more, but that no goal call on Ovie's goal was horsesh*t. Significantly more contact than that is allowed constantly in the NHL. It's not a conspiracy or anything, just a really bad call.

Posted by: sgm3 | April 28, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Semin for Kaberle?

But stupid question... I know the team needs some 'gritty' defense, but how can people say the Caps need defense when the team can hardly manage a goal in the last three games? Talk about a quandary. I'm sorry we didn't get to see Theo again in goal.

Posted by: larryn703 | April 28, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

For you homework cap fans please list all the Stanley Cup Champs with Euro captains....Have fun...lol

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

GMGM doesn't work independently from Boudreau. I'm sure they are in constant discussion about team needs and what types of players fit Boudreau's style of play.

So, even if it's just personnel issues, I think that Boudreau has to share at least a little blame in that area, as well.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 10:48 PM |

Naw, it's not this close as you may think it is. Sure, GMGM is given input on what BB and the coaches feels they need on the ice, but personnel decisions are almost entirely handled by the management and excludes the coaching staff.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

The OV goal that was waived off was BS. But it was to be expected, it was game 7 and the caps were involved

Posted by: koscold | April 28, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Deal Semin Flash and Green and bring in some defensive talent.

Fire BB for supreme playoff strategy ineptitude. Our reward will be not having to have to watch him and his two bit goof-ball cheezy TV commercials anymore.

Posted by: capper3 | April 28, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

But stupid question... I know the team needs some 'gritty' defense, but how can people say the Caps need defense when the team can hardly manage a goal in the last three games? Talk about a quandary. I'm sorry we didn't get to see Theo again in goal.

Posted by: larryn703 | April 28, 2010 10:51 PM |

Two issues at work.

1) Horrible defense.
2) Offense which adjusts until it's too late.

Got to give a lot

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I think McPhee deserves some blame. His moves at the trade deadline both disturbed team chemistry and failed to meet their biggest needs. Nice work!

Posted by: JPDC39 | April 28, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter who they bring in to right the ship. Everyone will have it in the back of their minds "choke". The only thing that will get rid of it is to win.

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 28, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

If we traded Green what could we get back...this organization has enough d-men that can pinch and score.....?

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 28, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the new WILBON and WISE column!@!!!

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Got to give a lot of credit to the Habs defense for #2 though. They played a great collapsing game, but partly because they could after going up early. (Because of problem #1...ahh the cycle)

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

@pensfan98 - classy post, it's appreciated.

A loss like this does lead to changes. My own 2 cents: Ovechkin played like a lion tonight, he gave it everything but one man is not enough. Semin didn't score but played better in last 2 games than did Backstrom.

But, when I watched the Caps one goal tonight - the desperate, do anything effort to score by Laich and Semin, I thought - that was what was missing. We thought we were entitled to win.

Also, sorry Ovie, you'll have to go to Sochi alone. The Caps are an argument against the Olympics now unless the season itself is restructured (fewer games?) to make it sensible. This team was spent after the Olympic break and never came back to the level it had before it.

Finally, let's give the Habs credit. Their style tonight was negative - all about preventing goals, etc but they executed it brilliantly and with all out effort. I think they're done now - this was their cup. They'll probably be out in four against the Pens because they left everything out on the ice in this series.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | April 28, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree. The sticking up for the old Hershey guys needs to go. Just because Green, Fleish and Schultz played good for you in the AHL, does not mean they will in the NHL. What is the time limit for these experiments to be over with? Schultz will never be a Hal Gill. Green will never ever ever be a Lidstrom. Fleish will never be a Zetterburg. It's time to let go of Hershey if you want to make it in the NHL.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I guess StanleyCup1907 doesn't want to meet me. So sad.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 28, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping that the media would follow up on two matters: 1) The matter of the shaken Halak vs the unflappable Ovi. I mean ovi did score a goal in a losing effort a couple games ago props to him. Of course one in three games all three losses to an eight seed for the first 3-1 series loss by a one to an eight in history. Second Alexander Semin I mean I think someone should gently break it to him that "whats so special about crosby?" well hmmm an art ross, a hart, a rocket richard, eight playoff series wins with potentially more to come as a captain by the age of 22, hmmmm two stanley cup finals, a stanley cup championship, a gold medal on his ot winning goal in the gold medal game, hmmm the veteran players on his team including a captain and stanley cuup winner like Guerin in awe of him saying he was born to lead and guys like Jay Mckee saying they have never seen someone lead like him on and off the ice. I mean two playoff assists in a humiliating loss to an eight seed and all is impressive Semin dont get me wrong certainly more so than 14 points by sid playing on a line with a 40 year old guerin and sniper like Kunitz who i think had one goal in last years playoff run. WOW you are special. Have a great summer maybe you can watch crosby and figure out what is so special and learn for yourself.

Posted by: vhull | April 28, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the new WILBON and WISE column!@!!!

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is a one trick pony and is easily defended in the playoffs.

Posted by: markfromparkville

You are just an idiot for saying that. Ovechkin had good series, he just didn't have much help besides Backstrom.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to the Caps great regular season.
Now on to the world's !!

Posted by: Cheef | April 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

And what's with Backstrom, who usually is 100% on his passes, not getting hardly any of them through the past 3 games?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

well now ov has more time to shoot some hoops! or jump through them...once a clown always a clowm OV = me me me

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

tmac2yao -----

What about this-

#8 learns how to play center over the off season...

Starts as 2nd line Center next year..

Is this an options? Oh, and trade Semin and Green.

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Dale Hunter for coach

Posted by: pkme | April 28, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

jeez, can't believe it happened again. I have nothing good to say about semin and green tonight.

I just keep having to remind myself that we shouldnt have let larry murphy go.

same needs this offseason as last. a top flight defensive d-man and a second line center. Belanger and Chimera were good additions and i'd like to keep them. dump the morrisons. keep either corvo or poti (whoever is cheaper). commit to carlson and alzner and varly and neuvirth.

Posted by: PindarPushkin | April 28, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

I agree. The sticking up for the old Hershey guys needs to go. Just because Green, Fleish and Schultz played good for you in the AHL, does not mean they will in the NHL. What is the time limit for these experiments to be over with? Schultz will never be a Hal Gill. Green will never ever ever be a Lidstrom. Fleish will never be a Zetterburg. It's time to let go of Hershey if you want to make it in the NHL.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

*******

The Bears won the cup there last year....Boudreau also lost the cup to Montreals farm team one year when Carey Price was AHL playoff MVP....

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 28, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

How many goals did Ovi score in the last two games? Nick? How is it Semin, Flash, Green's or any players fault when our two best players, both considered top 10 in the league, combined for 1 point in the last 2 games? Flash didn't even play tonight. Did he suck from the press box?

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

How many points did Semin, Flash and Green have in the series?

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | April 28, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is a one trick pony and is easily defended in the playoffs.

Posted by: markfromparkville

You are just an idiot for saying that. Ovechkin had good series, he just didn't have much help besides Backstrom.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse
CapslosingHockey 2 ....Did u watch the series? they put Gill on OV and shut him down

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Chimera is signed thru for 2 more, so we will see him next year.

Belanger? No thanks. Use his salary and combine it with other salary for a good defenseman.

Poti is signed thru one more year, but we should trade him if we can..3.5 mil/yr salary can do wonders for a competent free agent.

Corvo should NOT return. EVER. Keep him far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, away from DC please.

ShaMo should be re-signed, if he wants the same price.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else wanna trade that Prez trophy for a number 8 seed win ?

Posted by: Cheef | April 28, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

And Corvo..yeesh. I've never seen a professional sports player more afraid of taking a hit.

Go home frat bro.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

The Bears won the cup there last year....Boudreau also lost the cup to Montreals farm team one year when Carey Price was AHL playoff MVP....

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst

Yeah I went to a finals playoff game in Hershey last year against Manitoba.

I was more referring to the crop of Hershey guys from 3 or 4 years ago, not last year.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 28, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse
CapslosingHockey 2 ....Did u watch the series? they put Gill on OV and shut him down

Posted by: StanleyCup1907

I did watch it...unfortunately and Ovie played well. I think he had 5 goals and 5 assist in 7 games. That seems pretty good to me. This isn't on OV. I bet you're a Green fan aren't you. If you thought OV played bad, what's your opinion of Green and Semin?

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Got to give a lot of credit to the Habs defense for #2 though. They played a great collapsing game, but partly because they could after going up early. (Because of problem #1...ahh the cycle)

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 10:55 PM

Agreed.

It was disturbing how Montreal was able to continue to find a way to score first in this series then sit back and keep us in front of them and to the outside.

Much like on the PP, they were forcing us into certain types of shots. Sure, we broke through occasionally but they were always a step away from recovering and obviously got some great goaltending.

Our inability to prevent them from scoring first in almost every game added to our offensive woes.

Yet another reason why defense comes first. If you can't keep the puck out of your net early, you allow teams to sit back a little and not feel the need to take as many risks.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm Semin post season goals career at the age of 26 = 8. Crosby post season series wins at 22 so far = 8. Semin is delusional.

Posted by: vhull | April 28, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

@ TheDoubleAlex

Ovi and Nick are our top guys. They are the guys the Caps depend on to carry the team. If they can only combine for 3 points in the last 3 games, the problem runs deeper than any individual player.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Semin is a Joke ...Cut him or turm him into a tough guy (remembering his fight)
Green was playing scared... prob. BB new game plan

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

But I remember in the regular season after some of our games when we lost a lot of fans (including myself) would talk "doom and gloom" and talk about how some things would cause them to have an early exit and the "real" fans called us out and said we were bad fans... yeah.

Okay hope everyone feels better. I feel like crap and it'll only get worse tomorrow. This one hurts. These game 7 losses are wearing on me. It may cut my life short as well. I'll always support this team but clearly something's gotta change this offseason.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Backs seemed off to me the past 3 games. And I never call him out.

Ovi was amazing tonight. Only player who's heart I saw left on the ice.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Kovalchuk to replace Semin? lol.

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | April 28, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

anyone think OVi could learn to play Center?

Posted by: floms | April 28, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

BB has got to go. This was a monumental collapse. He did nothing to change the powerplay and he never seemed to have anything enlightening to say at the press conferences.

GMGM: Thanks for getting us that top D man we really needed. You suck!

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

The list of people that got the last laugh, so to speak, may be irrelevant but it does add to the pain:

Umberger
Yzerman
Plekanec
Halak
Blackhawks fans
Penguins fans
Canada (it's not all on Ovechkin but he's been on the wrong end against two of there teams in the last few months)

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Ovi is not going to play center.

Sign someone to come play the 2nd line role. Someone who isn't a low risk, high reward like BMo...a proven #2 will do.

Cap space is the issue though, folks, and I'd rather the money be aimed at the back end. Pick up the forward pieces at the deadline.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Semin and Green are dead to me!

Something to cheer up the Hometown fans. The Skins signed Joey Galloway! I've heard that like four times in the last half hour on CSN. He's 38 and he's sucked for the last 5 years. Why the hell did we sign him anyways. Shannahan is trying to asemble the oldest team in the league. Can't wait for them to lay another egg.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

@ TheDoubleAlex

Ovi and Nick are our top guys. They are the guys the Caps depend on to carry the team. If they can only combine for 3 points in the last 3 games, the problem runs deeper than any individual player.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

So, you're not going to answer my question? When was the last time you saw one or two players win a series. Ovie and Nicky are our top guys, which is why they scored, what, 10 points each in the series. The best part of this team in the regular series was the depth of scoring. That's how you win a lot of games, not by relying on two guys. Ovie and Nicky did their jobs for the most part. Semin, Green and Flash did not at all.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | April 28, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

One thing that at least the Caps should have in the offseason is free agents wanting to play in DC even if they can't outspend other teams with more cap space.

Posted by: larryn703 | April 28, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Ovie needs more teammates that play with heart. He was stifled sometimes tonight, but he was hustling, and he did not quit. Enough of this "not as good as Crosby" nonsense. He had no supporting teammates on the ice. Crosby has fellow Penguins that are present. Too many Capitals were noticeably absent or under-performing in this series.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 28, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I would say the Capitals skate like a bunch of girls, but then that would be degrogatory to females. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for a team with this talent to lose. Period.
They should be ashamed, and before you start comparing Ovi to Gretzsky, I think you actually need to perform under pressure.

Posted by: Ireland2 | April 28, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

BB has got to go. This was a monumental collapse. He did nothing to change the powerplay and he never seemed to have anything enlightening to say at the press conferences.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2

Yeah. They just didn't change anything in games 5 and 6, and 7. After game 6 they said they just ran into a hot goalie and if they shoot that many times it ought to go in. Yeah how did that work tonight? They can shoot 200 times but if all the shots are from the perimeter and the blue line, they are not going in. We had 134 shots in three games and scored 3 total goals. Give credit to MTL but the Caps never adjusted.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 28, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

I didn't think that Backstrom looked right going back to the end of the regular season and I'm not forgetting the games where he put up numbers, including his hat trick in Game 2.

There was a stretch of about 2 months during the regular season where he seemed nearly flawless from the drop of the puck to the end of every game. He couldn't be knocked off of the puck. A bad pass seemed to happen once a week. He was doing it all in all 3 zones.

I can't remember if the end of that stretch occurred before or after the Olympics but he honestly hasn't looked like quite the same player in a while despite still finding stretches of greatness.

I thought that he looked like arguably the best player on the planet for a significant stretch in the middle of the season.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

You lost because you have a European captain!!!! too many overseas players and no clutch goaltender HELLO!!!!!!! OV SEMIN would rather play in a world cup than the stanley cup...Get players who have a deep down hunger for a Stanley Cup

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 28, 2010 10:38 PM

@stanleycup1907- I could not agree more.Our Captain needs to be a north american player. Euros are too flakey and do not have the work ethic of Americans and Canadians.
How many times this year did ov skip the morning skate.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 28, 2010 10:44 P

Wow. Appearently I missed Russia joining the E.U. Guess I've been paying too much attention to the playoffs and not the news...

Posted by: rovingbandit | April 28, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

"Enough of this "not as good as Crosby" nonsense. He had no supporting teammates on the ice. Crosby has fellow Penguins that are present."

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Ummm...no. I'm sorry there's no discussion about this any more. Crosby is the best player in the NHL. OV is an arguable second. as a lifelong Caps fan, it doesn't even pain me to say it because it's so painfully obvious at this point.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Comes down to the fact that we can't stay out of the penalty box. And our defense is so weak that it can't keep our goalies from being hung out to dry or being overworked to the point of likely exhaustion....so who is to blame? Bruce, not likely. GMGM - pretty darn likely...he refuses to build this team around a solid defense or even a healthy balance of offense and defense. He loaded our team down with offense at the trading deadline (if you thought Corvo was a good idea..I'd hate to see your idea of a bad idea..well that wouldn't be hard)...we need stay a home defensemen willing to put in the work. Offense doesn't win a Stanley Cup...Defense does. Without it, DC will never see the Cup.

Posted by: lloydrj727 | April 28, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Boudreau looked panicky and out of sorts before Game 1 of this series. I don't know what was going on his head or what he was perceiving about the team behind the scenes but he didn't seem confident before the drop of the first puck. Maybe he knew that Montreal was going to present us with certain problems for which it would be difficult to find answers.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 28, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Montreal played a very solid defensive game and Washington didn't really have an answer. The game was basically played in Montreal's end but they kept solid positioning and blocked a ton of shots. Combine that with Halak's solid play and Washington didn't really have many great chances. And the ones they did have they couldn't finish on. A couple of mistakes by Green and the game's over. I'm expecting some changes in the off-season. Good chance Semin is on the move and they might get rid of Bruce. I like him but he made some bad decisions in this series. The worse was pulling the goalie way too early when they already had a powerplay. Should have waited about a minute.

Posted by: Stu_c | April 28, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Ovie had 5 goals and 5 assists and really should've been 6 goals and 5 assists if it wasn't for that horsesh*t call in the 3rd.

That means he did put the puck in the net in the 3rd period and had an assist. It isn't his fault the refs made a horrible call that is NEVER made in the playoffs or the regular season. Look at most playoff goals, there is almost always more contact than that.

Posted by: sgm3 | April 28, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

@LloydChristmas

I'll be rooting for the Sharks along with you. You and I are probably the only Caps fans rooting for them as so many Caps fans hate that team.

I feel a kinship with their fanbase, given all the collapses they've done.

I don't hate Detroit. In fact, I really love Datsyuk but I'd like to see someone else represent the West.

As for the Penguins, I really despise that team and promise that if the Penguins are EVER dumped from the Eastern Conference playoffs, I will buy tickets to watch the team that knocks them out in THEIR area and I will root FOR that team, whether it's NJ, the Flyers, Buffalo, the Bruins, the Habs, the Senators. No matter who it is.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 28, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm listening Boudreau's pathetic press conference.

Where was Mcphee when Hal Gill was available in the offseason. Just the kind of player we need. When will Mcphee realize the you need a veteran defenseman to help the young defenseman. He does not get it. The playoffs are a different story and the Caps have not been built for the playoffs since he has made the decisions.

BB: Your style needs to change. Start considering dumping in the puck during the playoffs. Match up adjustment is sometimes necessary. You can't always carry the puck into the zone.

Bye bye Semin, Green, Fehr and Flash. Time to bring in some toughness on the blue line, some grit on the wings.

Posted by: diner99 | April 28, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

OV is an arrogant choker and Mike Green is now my friend!

It was really nice playing you guys: thanks for letting us win!

At your defence, the refs weren't on you side this time: they didn't try as hard as they did in Game 6!

Sorry for all of you except for Ovetchkine who can go rot in Russia and continue to take steroids.

Now we have to fight a real team in the Pens who have a real good hockey player and a team player in Crosby... not to mention Malkin who is much better that Semin... anyway.
So long and have a nice summer!

Go Redskins !

Posted by: ronaldcajelais | April 28, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

"...so who is to blame? Bruce, not likely."

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Why not? It's his system that consistently leaves the Goalies out to dry by emphasizing offense at the expense of defense. Just getting some better defensemen isn't going to change the fact that Gabby doesn't give two flying poops about defense.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

So were the Caps just lucky to make it two rounds last season in the playoffs? Were people calling for such a drastic overhaul? It seems like the key players and team tactics didn't change that much between last year and this one. Other than Knuble, who was supposed to be a net presence, the top guys really didn't change.

Posted by: larryn703 | April 28, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

So, you're not going to answer my question? When was the last time you saw one or two players win a series. Ovie and Nicky are our top guys, which is why they scored, what, 10 points each in the series. The best part of this team in the regular series was the depth of scoring. That's how you win a lot of games, not by relying on two guys. Ovie and Nicky did their jobs for the most part. Semin, Green and Flash did not at all.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | April 28, 2010 11:18 PM

I'm not calling out Ovi and Nick. I think they are both top 10 in the league. As richmondphil pointed out, Ovi was great. My point is that if these guys could only get 3 points in the last 3 games, something is wrong with the system, not the players.

Martin adjusted, BB just said score more goals. To a man the sequence was get the puck, skate it into the zone, shoot before you hit the circles and before your teammates can set up a screen. Being predictable. That's the way to beat a hot goalie.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 28, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Tarik, although you may not read this, I beg you to at least periodically update this blog during the offseason. I am thoroughly disappointed by tonight's heartbreaking loss, but your blog somehow makes me feel slightly better about the Caps' shortcoming. Please continue to keep up the good work!

Posted by: papaleone93 | April 28, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

"So were the Caps just lucky to make it two rounds last season in the playoffs?"

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It hilarious that you talk about losing in rd. 2 last year like it's an accomplishment.

"There's nothing wrong with the players or system, they lost in the SECOND round last year!"

Is that *really* the point you want to be making?

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Why not? It's his system that consistently leaves the Goalies out to dry by emphasizing offense at the expense of defense. Just getting some better defensemen isn't going to change the fact that Gabby doesn't give two flying poops about defense.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:30 PM |

Again, just watch how our defenders play.

The mistakes some of these guys consistently make have nothing to do with a system. A system has nothing to do with how you play guys on the rush. It has nothing to do with the inability to clear the puck, nor does it force you to make no-look passes in your own zone.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Jurcina played great tonight !

GMGM is a true genius :)

Posted by: Cheef | April 28, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

As a Capitals' beatwriter for Rotowire.com my point remains as it was early this year. Let Alzner and Carlson play as much as possible (I know that Cap room had to do with why this didn't happen) but your future is there, LET EM PLAY! As for the other achilles heal I wrote in my preview - GOALTENDING. Look at the last 10 cup winners - SOLID D AND GREAT GOALTENDING. Caps will never come close until they sure it up on the back end. Neuvirth was he most consistent netminder during the regular season, not counting Theo's exceptional play the last month or so (Varlamov did not deserve to pay in the first round or for that much the playoffs at all) Good job Boudreau!

So my point score all you want, but come playoof time if the back end is shaky you better score 10 a game, but not going to happen! Teams that made the playoffs no matter the seeding deserve to be there. President's trophy = 1st round exit. Overall best offense in the league = 1st round exit. No changes needed up front, if anything the moves at the deadline may have hurt - honestly - what did Walker, Belanger (besides the faceoff dot wins), Corvo, and Jurcina (still on DL) bring to the team except chemistry and line juggling problems for BB. He tried way to many lines instead of sticking with 4 and gelling them for the playoff run.

Well all is said and a Thank you to Washington, NJ, and Buffalo for early exits as now my defending champs havehome ice the rest of the way! Taking the Igloo down with a BANG! Lets Go Pens!!

Posted by: brettjbaxter | April 28, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

No supporting teamates really thats the argument? I mean im not defending Semin I think hes classic non prime time performer but talent wise the kids got mad skills, Greeny agreed was vomitus in the playoffs but hes still a norris trophy candidate, backstrom is a big time player had nine points in the series and Knuble is a tough guy and so on and so forth. Great players make their teamates play better. Supporting players always rise up on good teams with strong leadership. I see ovi as a force of nature a tornado but he lacks creativity finesse and some of the natural game instincts. Noone is scarier with the puck but he doesnt always make the best team plays. I mean i hear arguments like Malkin carries crosby etc. well Ovi had Malkin he had gonchar and his olympic performance frankly was pathetic. Let him own up hes the captain. Also as captain he doesnt need to belittle Havlak particularly when he gets embarrassed by him in epic fashion the last three hockey games. He needs to figure out how to make his team better not shoot 10x a game. I mean Havlak had every opportunity to razz ovechkin but instead led his team also as a 24 year old and just performed instead of talking smack.

Posted by: vhull | April 28, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Boy a bad game on Green again his errors gave the games to the Hab. Lets just say what is ment this is pay back for Ove putting players out of the game for weeks or forever. These CAPS will never win the CUP!!!

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 28, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

what I'd like to know is how dedicated or not-so-dedicated guys like Ovi, Semin, Green, Backs, etc are on their off-days. I'm not just talking about the practices but how much time they spend with the coaches in the video room studying the opponents, etc... I think it's about time someone did some real reporting and found out about these things instead of just watching who gets off the ice first at the morning skates.

I'm not gonna question the effort of any player on the Caps least of all Ovi because don't believe they got outworked by the Habs. Ultimately they lost to a team that played smarter and better as a team with a huge assist from their goaltender.

3 things stick out... 1) Montreal scored first in every game but one. 2) the pathetic PP 3) Halak

Posted by: joek443 | April 28, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

@Richmondphil

I was thinking the same thing. Caps didn't pull the trigger on Pronger because the asking price was seemingly too high. Look how that decision has worked out for the Caps and Flyers, respectively.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Bye bye Semin, Green, Fehr and Flash. Time to bring in some toughness on the blue line, some grit on the wings.

Posted by: diner99

I am fine with all those leaving except Fehr. I thought he played pretty well and was one of the few caps that seemed to mix it up and be tough. I'd like to keep him. But the rest can go and go now!

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Go Ov & Semin at the World's !!! Win Gold!!

Posted by: Cheef | April 28, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Epic fail. Caps biggest collapse ever. This is probably the second worst collapse in Washington DC sports history. The only one worst was the total collapse by the Redskins versus the Raiders in the Super Bowl.

It's going to be hard to be excited about the regular season.

This series was alot like many of the games this year where they would just coast till the third period. The last two games, the Caps skated hard, maybe they didnt hit enough, but they were going for the open space.

Posted by: cirrus_nine | April 28, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

"The mistakes some of these guys consistently make have nothing to do with a system. A system has nothing to do with how you play guys on the rush. It has nothing to do with the inability to clear the puck, nor does it force you to make no-look passes in your own zone."

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Phil, please don't mistake my comments as some sort of defense of the defensemen's play. You are correct on all counts. Adding real defensemen would certainly help, but I can't believe that would be the sole answer come playoff time in light of Gabby's terrible defensive system.

The true solution comes with changes in both defensive personnel and defensive philosophy. Changing only one of the two will not solve the problem, IMHO.

It's pretty sad when your two best DMen are Carlson and Alzner. Can either of those guys even legally buy beer yet?

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking the same thing. Caps didn't pull the trigger on Pronger because the asking price was seemingly too high. Look how that decision has worked out for the Caps and Flyers, respectively.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:39 PM |

That Pronger contract is going to give Philly salary cap hell for the next few years.

That said, I love Pronger. I have been talking him up since I registered. But it just didn't work out.


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Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Were we know semin is not dedicated all series he haven't score and still wouldn't go on the floor for shoot outs on off days. It time to let semin go. Plus that go by Ove was good.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 28, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Im hoping the people ripping Ovi are Pens fans. Anybody that blames him and is a Caps fan is an idiot. He played a great game and gave it everything he had. I'm from Detroit and we never treated Yzerman like that when we were winning the regular season and losing in the first round. Its a team game and on that team there was a guy that was responsible for almost 3/4ths of the Habs goals in the series and his name is Mike Green. Ovi played well, but the coach made no adjustments and played right into the the trap system that the Habs ran. If the city turns on Ovi he should go somewhere they can appreciate him.

Posted by: jrednoring | April 28, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

@VTDuffman

I was just trying to say why weren't people throwing everyone overboard last season. Or were they and I don't remember?

Posted by: larryn703 | April 28, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Something needs to happen...... I think Semin and Green need to take a hike. We can get some good return for these players. If Ovie doesn't like Semin being shipped off then he needs to grow up and realize the industry he is in. That being said, the Caps could afford to give BB the boot as well. This is inexcusable, BB's inability to adjust the power play to there scheme is sickening. He also failed to adjust to Montreal's crowd their own net style of defense. The effort was there in these game, the game plan wasn't.

Posted by: eorr53 | April 28, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Caps UFA's next year:
Brendan Morrison - BYE
Scott Walker- BYE
Quintin Laing- BYE
Eric Belanger- Keep him at the right price
Shaone Morrison- Keep him
Milan Urcina- Keep him
Joe Corvo- BYE
Jose Theodore- BYE

RFA's
Backstrom- A must!
Eric Fehr- Keep him
Boyd Gordon- Keep him at the right price
Flash- BYE
Schultz- Keep him at the right price
Neuvy- Keep him

What do you guys think?

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

BB said terrible things to Varlamov in game 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgbFbh_yGFs

Why didn't he start with Théo today then?
I think he is a "stupid f..." !

Posted by: ronaldcajelais | April 28, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

The true solution comes with changes in both defensive personnel and defensive philosophy. Changing only one of the two will not solve the problem, IMHO.

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And this starts with GMGM, not BB.

Play BB's system, and you will do fine. It's not like his system is unique or new or anything, it's been done before. You can play defense fine with that system...if your defenders want to.

It's not a terrible defensive system, it's one system. If the defensive side is slacking, then most of that gets placed on the defenders. Watching them play..it's not hard at all to see why our defense is bad. Has nothing to do with BB's system.

Defensive philosophy, however, is a result of GMGM and the front office and how they choose to direct this team. If he chooses NOT to make changes, then he should go. Bye George.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

"That Pronger contract is going to give Philly salary cap hell for the next few years."

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That's what everyone has said about every move the Penguins have made for the last 3 years. Look how that's worked out for everyone. At some point you have to bite the bullet and take that risk if you want to win the Cup.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Semin is not dedicated he would not practice on off days knowing his dumb ass was not scoring what a waste. Ove goal was good but the habs had complain before the game to the ref supervisor that the caps stays in the crease. So that goal was taken to please!

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 28, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

"Play BB's system, and you will do fine. It's not like his system is unique or new or anything, it's been done before. You can play defense fine with that system...if your defenders want to."

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Name any Stanley Cup winner in the last decade who played a similar system.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Caps UFA's next year:
Brendan Morrison - BYE
Scott Walker- BYE
Quintin Laing- 2-way deal
Eric Belanger- BYE
Shaone Morrison- Keep him at the right price
Milan Urcina- BYE
Joe Corvo- BYE
Jose Theodore- BYE

RFA's
All are going to be re-signed. Flash should be sign and traded.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 28, 2010 11:48 PM |

On top of that, trade Poti if you can.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 28, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I think BB's job is secure but this should be his one and only mulligan... one more failure like this in the playoffs, time to bring in Dale Hunter as the new head coach.

Posted by: joek443 | April 28, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Crosby said it right till Ove take this sport serious the caps will never win the cup. Hurting players and knocking themn out of games was paid back by the gods in this series.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 28, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Difference in this series was the coaching. One coach made adjustments and won the last 3 games. Th other didn't make significant adjustments and lost the last 3.

Here's who's on signed for next year:
Ovechkin 9 mil
Semin 6 mil
Knuble 2.8 mil
Laich 2.4 mil
Nylander 3 mil
Chimera 1.875 mil
Bradley 1 mil
Steckel 1.1 mil
Perrault 0.625 mil
Aucoin 0.5 mil
Green 5 mil
Poti 3.5 mil
Erskine 1.25 mil
Sloan 0.7 mil
Alzner 0.875
Carlson 0.875
Varlamov 0.765

Sign the following RFAs
Backstrom
Fehr
Gordon
Schultz
Neuvirth

Sign the following UFA
True 2nd Line Center
A Hard Nose Veteran Dman

Bring some of the Bears up to fill some of the vacant holes on the 3rd & 4th Lines.

Bring someone in to replace Evason.

Posted by: puckman | April 28, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Humpty-Dumpty Boudreau will retire: you should try to have Lemaire.
Lemaire could teach OV a nice game called hockey which is a TEAM sport in some cities.

Posted by: ronaldcajelais | April 28, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

"I was just trying to say why weren't people throwing everyone overboard last season. Or were they and I don't remember?"

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Last season we (barely) won our first round series. This year the team got better, and it was reflected in their frnchsie record setting regular season record and the President's Trophy.

They parlayed that into a first round playoff series loss where they led 3-1 after game 4.

That's the difference between last year and this year.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

This season is over now and for this team to win next season Ove has to commit to playing a physical game with out taken himself out and others. So til we learn how to end a series in 5 or 6 games we will never move on to the next round........Goodnight

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 28, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Fire McPhee

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 28, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Come on, any of really surprised by the out come? These are WASHINGTON CAPITALS!

For you "newbie/bandwagon"
Caps choke, now, in the 90s, 80s...etc....

CAPS CHOKE!

Posted by: 555Mass | April 28, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

@VTDuffman

Thanks for clearing that up!

Posted by: larryn703 | April 28, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

"Crosby said it right till Ove take this sport serious the caps will never win the cup. Hurting players and knocking themn out of games was paid back by the gods in this series."

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If what you were saying were remotely true, any team with Matt Cooke on it would never win a playoff game, let alone a series.

Alex Ovechkin is one of the least of this teams' problems right now. He's not as good as Crosby, but that's not saying a whole lot. No one is as good as Crosby.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 28, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

@ronaldcajelais

Lemaire isn't coming back. Good thought though.

Posted by: larryn703 | April 28, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm an Islanders fan, so it's somewhat amusing to read the comments on a team that has so much more talent than ours. I'm left wondering at the end who believes which team had a better season.

As a neutral fan in this series, I have three observations apart from Halak's play.

1) Playing in the Southeast and Eastern Conference this year was no help. More than 50% of the Caps' games this year were against non-playoff contenders--with the buld of the league's cream pufss. Moreover, the overall caliber in the East dimished the value of the regular season games against those teams in the playoffs. Anyone watching the West this year and their playoff series have seen far superior hockey to anyhting in the the East and its quarterfinals.

2) The Caps are talented, but I didn't see as much desperate hockey as I would have expected. Sometimes this is hard to gauge on TV, but I never got sense that the Caps were all out in the series.

3) Ordinarily, a 1-33 success rate on the powerplay means a team wouldn't even sniff a Game 7. It's a testament to the Caps overall strength that they were up 3-1. Too many times on the PP, they looked like the talent-challenged Islanders--holding the puck and looking instead of crisp passing north/south and east/west to get the defense moving and creating better passing and shooting lanes.

As a hockey fan, I'm most upset because without the Caps starpower, the remainder of the Eastern Conference playoffs are a yawn to me, regardless of who wins.

Posted by: wcimons | April 29, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

@ronaldcajelais

I don't think Lemaire would accept the Caps' head coaching job even if it were offered to him. I think he's serious about retiring this time.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 29, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

I usually agree with you, but this time I can't. I think it is BBs system. BB wants offensive defensemen, not a shutdown D. He's said he wants these guys to score goals. That works if everyone is committed to team defense, but that's not the case. When the D pinch, most of the forwards don't cover. In fact, most of those guys watch as the opponent skates pass. If it were just one or two guys, I would say they are not playing the system, but it is everyone.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

@larry

Mind you, I can only speak for myself.

In 2008 this team exceeded expectations.

In 2009 I'd argue that they met expectations if *slightly* disappointed.

In 2010 they fell so short of expectations it's completely inexcusable.

Interestingly enough, all three years ended in a game 7 at home.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Dont be mad guys. We won for 3 reasons: Halak, Gill and luck (lots of it).

You should be proud of your team for the wonderful season they gave you.

BTW: Im not proud at all of the way we won. And you should get rid of Boudreau, he has no respect for his players.

Posted by: Montrealfan | April 29, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

I agree with the comment it is a team game but just take the power play it was an utter failure ovi is a huge part of that and if scoring goals is your only talent and you score one in three games games 5 6 and 7 then you can put some onus on the great Ovi. If you watched the Sens v Pens u saw a captain that blocked shots knocked guys over stood up for his teamates got impaled on a skate and came back on the ice made a crucial save on a puck rolling into the net scored goals made passes that were unreal and won face off after face off. You need more than one on one moves and assists on rebounds I think a one and four playoff record shows that with an excellent team around him. Backstrom is world class Green offensively is unreal as a Dman Semin a 40 goal guy and yet another seven game series and another loss.

Posted by: vhull | April 29, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Trade Cindy for Ovie, straight UP!

Posted by: 555Mass | April 29, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Oddly, this doesn't hurt as bad as I thought it would. The Caps showed incredible deficiencies in this series, but if they eeked it out the organization may have been able to ignore them. Now they have to pay attention to what went wrong, and attitude from the top down has to be high on that list.

Posted by: swags | April 29, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Montreal fan- I would be very proud of the way you guys won. From game 1, you guys took it to us. I have always liked the Canadians, hope you beat the Pens in the next round.

Posted by: The_Spear | April 29, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Canadiens fan, and from my perspective, there are four reasons we won: 1) Halak, 2) we had more veteran leadership (we have 5 guys who have won 6 Cups, the Caps have I think have Knuble who won but it was early in his career and he wasn't an instrumental part), 3) I like Corvo, but he's another offensive defenseman on an already stacked offensive team; GMGM should have acquired a rugged, defensive guy; look at how important Hal Gill was to Montreal's win, the Caps don't have anyone close to him, and 4) the Caps played like they were destined to win, they didn't battle as hard or play as a team; that ethos of arrogance and entitlement has no place in the playoffs.

If you guys sign a veteran goalie, get a shutdown defenseman, and get some quality veteran leadership, you'll be better next year. Have a nice summer, I hope you all enjoy golf!

Posted by: gohabsgo2010 | April 29, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

This team was built like a travelling circus, with plenty of fanfare and talent to attract hordes of fans and make lots of money for Ted and his other partners during the regular season; not to get it done on the playoffs much less to win the Cup. That requires, discipline, hard work, though love and the ability to learn from mistakes, adapt and fight to the death to win each and every game.

Posted by: Irreverent_inDC | April 29, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

I usually agree with you, but this time I can't. I think it is BBs system. BB wants offensive defensemen, not a shutdown D. He's said he wants these guys to score goals. That works if everyone is committed to team defense, but that's not the case. When the D pinch, most of the forwards don't cover. In fact, most of those guys watch as the opponent skates pass. If it were just one or two guys, I would say they are not playing the system, but it is everyone.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 12:02 AM |

That's not the system then. It's lazy execution of the system.

Seriously, guys, it's not like BB is reinventing the wheel here. He plays a 2-1-2 forecheck most of the time, and asks his d-men to pinch a lot.

If you seriously think BB is telling the guys not to back check or to not block shots on the rush or to make no-look passes in our defensive zone, you're crazy.

Lazy play breaks the system, it's not a result of the system.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

"If you guys sign a veteran goalie, get a shutdown defenseman, and get some quality veteran leadership, you'll be better next year"

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We have all been saying this literally for three years now. No one up top seems to be getting the Memo.

Right up to the trade deadline, everyone was saying "The Caps need real defensemen, grit up front, and veteran goaltending."

What did we get?

Joe Corvo.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

The Coyotes Defense score alot of goals and they have a great team defence.

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 29, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Let me say this to you fans as well. I wish the fans who invest emotion and money into the Caps, particularly the kids, knew how often and how hard your stars party -- from Ovy to Green. While you fans take the metro home, they are partying 'till the wee hours of the night.

Say what you will about Sidney, but he's disciplined off the ice. The Caps' stars are not.

You want a better outcome next time, demand more personal responsibility into your stars.

The predicate for this is having an interested and committed media who keeps tabs on their players. The Montreal media is all over players when they step out of line outside of the rink; but, there is no accountability in DC.

Posted by: gohabsgo2010 | April 29, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

@wcimons

Thank you for sharing your observations on the Caps. A neutral perspective is what's needed.

I feel too sad.

Agree the Eastern Conference playoffs will be boring.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 29, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

And I am not taking blame off BB or anything. In fact, there's many aspects about BB which I feel are a detriment to a winning formula.

His system, which is nothing new..the same system we've seen run and guns team use before....is not one of those detriments.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

One more. Ov can't win when he has 3 players playing him and bumping him off the puck the rest of the team has to pick up when he's double and triple team. Plus this team is not physical enough they let the habs out hit. Everytime the habs touch the puck someone should have been there to knock them over instead of getting knock over....Just sad sad sad sad and Green errors all series cost this team.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 29, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

"If you seriously think BB is telling the guys not to back check or to not block shots on the rush or to make no-look passes in our defensive zone, you're crazy."

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I think he tells them to have at least one forward floating at the blue line in order to break an odd man rush. This effectively takes that forward out of the zone, essentially creating a 5 on 4 every time the opposing team gets the puck in our zone.

I wasn't being smart when I asked you to name a cup winning team that played a similar system. I really can't think of one.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Plus this team is not physical enough they let the habs out hit. Everytime the habs touch the puck someone should have been there to knock them over instead of getting knock over....Just sad sad sad sad and Green errors all series cost this team.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 29, 2010 12:11 AM |

We outhit the Habs in quite a few games this series, including tonight.

Physicality was far from the issue.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Sorry the Caps also needs speed and plenty of it...

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 29, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I'm a Canadiens fan, and from my perspective, there are four reasons we won: 1) Halak, 2) we had more veteran leadership (we have 5 guys who have won 6 Cups, the Caps have I think have Knuble who won but it was early in his career and he wasn't an instrumental part), 3) I like Corvo, but he's another offensive defenseman on an already stacked offensive team; GMGM should have acquired a rugged, defensive guy; look at how important Hal Gill was to Montreal's win, the Caps don't have anyone close to him, and 4) the Caps played like they were destined to win, they didn't battle as hard or play as a team; that ethos of arrogance and entitlement has no place in the playoffs.

If you guys sign a veteran goalie, get a shutdown defenseman, and get some quality veteran leadership, you'll be better next year. Have a nice summer, I hope you all enjoy golf!

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nah, the Pens are going to smoke the Habs in 5, and Cooke is going to injure a couple of your players including Halak in the process.

Posted by: Irreverent_inDC | April 29, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

@ gohabsgo2010 - naa I'll just enjoy the baseball team your city could not support.

Posted by: The_Spear | April 29, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

So after a drive to the [gun]store (just kidding), I have sufficiently cooled down. I think it was just from listening to the postgame chat on the radio. Bruce mentioned how this team is still very young...which it is. There are a lot of years left in our core guys and a lot of maturing that still needs to be done. A lot of guys are not even 25 years old. We may need to pick up some key veteran defensive pieces, and we can see a Cup-challenging teams for years to come.

It hurts now, but I hope Bruce spends this off-season re-examining his offense-heavy philosophy. The Caps still are not complete, but we are not far.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 29, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Firt: It's not the players, it's the system. You won't win in the playoffs if you can't play well in your own end. Look at what Brian Burke is trying to do in Toronto. He is rebuilding the Leafs starting with goalies and defencemen. The forwards will be the final piece of the puzzle.

Second: Young defencemen need to relearn the game when they reach the NHL level. Did the Caps do this with Mike Green?

Posted by: jackblob | April 29, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

@bigschu8

But the Coyotes also lost in Round 1, despite those strengths.

But on the Coyotes, rooting for a team like them, who no one thought had any chance, would probably be more satisfying than rooting for the Caps.

Aside from that, maybe the Caps and Coyotes should make a deal. Coyotes trade some defense for some of our offense.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 29, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I wasn't being smart when I asked you to name a cup winning team that played a similar system. I really can't think of one.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:12 AM |

Okay, whatever. I'll bite. It's the system.

Now how the hell does that explain most of the defensive efficiencies I have outlined? Does a system tell you how to play guys on the rush? Does a system tell you where to put no -look passes? Does a system tells you how to handle a guy at the boards or in the corners?

No, no, no.

BB has serious coaching issues, but his system, which is nothing new and teams have won the Cup on before, is not. All and any systems can be stopped by a good reaction to that system.

Again, main point #2 why we lost; inability to adjust.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

richmondphil
Being physical was part of the reason think about the last two games everytime we get near the goalie they knock us on our ass. They force us to play there game so what do you call it. Keep us to the side closing down the middle were we score the most from. So physicality was a big part.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 29, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

of course it's BB's system that failed miserably in this series because his system is NOT SUPPOSED to produce only a goal/game in the series-deciding games when his team is up 3 games to one.

even the ever-chocking Sharks came back and blew out the Avs after losing that 1-0 heart-breaker with over 50 saves from Anderson.

this team is just NOT tested during the regular season because of the pathetic division that they belong to.

Posted by: joek443 | April 29, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Did the system tell Carlson to skate lazily to back check Moore?

I'll chalk that one up for being a rookie, John...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil


I agree.

And if I hear one more media person talking about how Ovie doesn't come up big I'm going to puke. He scored a tying third period goal in this game and it was unfairly not allowed on a horrible call. Then he also produced a primary assist on top of that.

I heard Melrose say this was all on Ovie because he didn't score a goal in games 6 and 7 and said how Crosby always comes through in those situations. Well the game 7 goal is talked about above and Crosby in games 5, 6, and 7 of the SC finals last year had 0G 0A and was a -3.

Please, can someone please tell me how he carried the Pens with that. Crosby is a great player, but hockey is a team game and great teams have players who will step up in some games. The blame for the series goes on the PP, Green, Semin, Flash, poor 2nd line center play, and some on Laich (although that 3rd period goal does relieve him of some of the blame)

Posted by: sgm3 | April 29, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

"which is nothing new and teams have won the Cup on before,"

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I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but which teams? I seriously can't think of any...The Early 80's Oilers? I mean isn't that the point, that you have to reach back 30 years to answer that question?

I'm arguing that it's both, and that no side in the "system" vs. "personnel" debate is more at fault here.

I think the fact that you are getting all mad and sarcastic rather than saying (example, I know it doesn't really work) "Oh, the Devils in the late 90s won several cups playing that system") kind of proves the point.

I'll concede the point if you can name *just one* team in the last 15 years to win a Cup playing our style of hockey. I just honestly can't think of a single one.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

of course it's BB's system that failed miserably in this series because his system is NOT SUPPOSED to produce only a goal/game in the series-deciding games when his team is up 3 games to one.

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So you entirely missed my posts about how BB didn't adjust and that's his fault?

The system is not the problem. Period. BB could be the problem..but his 2-1-2 aggressive forecheck, which tons of teams use and have used, is not the problem.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

That's not the system then. It's lazy execution of the system.

Seriously, guys, it's not like BB is reinventing the wheel here. He plays a 2-1-2 forecheck most of the time, and asks his d-men to pinch a lot.

If you seriously think BB is telling the guys not to back check or to not block shots on the rush or to make no-look passes in our defensive zone, you're crazy.

Lazy play breaks the system, it's not a result of the system.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:09 AM

You're right. BB probably does tell the forwards to back check. My issue with BB is that he wants all his D to pinch when that's not their game.

Earlier in the season I remember Erskine pinching on a play. ERSKINE! Of all the people on this team, Erskine should never be below the blue line, but their he was. That's not his game, so where do you think he got the idea? Defensive D get sent to pressbox under BB.

But...Defense wasn't the reason the Caps lost this series. It was the inability to adjust to the trap, which BB had to know was coming all year.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Semin was marvelous, the #1 PP was spectacular.

GMGM is a genius !!!

Posted by: Cheef | April 29, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

"And if I hear one more media person talking about how Ovie doesn't come up big I'm going to puke."

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Puke all you want, but it's true.

I mean, this one isn't even up for debate anymore. The performances speak for themselves.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

I'll concede the point if you can name *just one* team in the last 15 years to win a Cup playing our style of hockey. I just honestly can't think of a single one.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:25 AM |

I haven't really answered you because the question is just silly. Tons of team use the same system BB uses. It's nothing new, it's nothing unique, It's nothing ground-breaing.

It's a simple 2-1-2 fore check with heavy emphasis on pinching D. Heavy emphasis on the rush.

What is so hard to understand here?


BB is guilty of not adjusting, that's for sure. His system is fine, and can be found being used by coaches everywhere. Should he place more emphasis on a back checking forward? Maybe, but it doesn't change the system.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Semin was marvelous, the #1 PP was spectacular.

GMGM is a genius !!!

Posted by: Cheef | April 29, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

The predicate for this is having an interested and committed media who keeps tabs on their players. The Montreal media is all over players when they step out of line outside of the rink; but, there is no accountability in DC.

Posted by: gohabsgo2010 | April 29, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Go eff yourself man!

Posted by: eorr53 | April 29, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm still in shock... We gave up game #5 & that was kinda inexcusable the way we played... but we created so many opportunities in games 6 & 7... I'm just stunned at how many unlucky tips, hacks, bounces, etc etc didn't go our way in these last 2 games.

Varly had an ERA of 1.0 tonight & the Caps had an unearned run because of the dumbest hockey penalty I have ever seen... All Green had to do was grab the puck two skates to his right because the guy was on his backpedal & he chooses to CROSS-CHECK THE GUY??? This loss is on Green & as far as I'm concerned he is a nothing for as long as he is a Cap, I want him gone... that was a selfish play & changed the entire game.

I don't blame the refs for the call, but what I don't understand is why there is no review of the play? From my perspective, his skates were outside the lines when the puck crossed...

Finally... It feels like were choking dogs, but God Halak played AMAZING & this was our worst possible matchup in the first round... I never believed those who said we would win in 5, but the way we played tonight should of lead to a victory... we had the goaltending & we were attacking the net except for a short period in the game the Caps seemed to be really depressed due to the goal they allowed with no time left in the first.... F Mike Green!!!

Ok, leave the coaching staff in place & let's learn from this... Trade Mike Green to set a tone & Let's win it next year... Bruce Boudreau would be the scape goat, but I just can't see how we could of played better tonight, we poured our guts out but there were a lot of circumstantial situations that killed our momentum. We don't need anything but more effort & all I heard from Mike Green was how hungry everyone was, blah blah blah... he was an utter failure... bad passes, bad penalties, bad defense... I know Semin might be on the hook, but he played very hard both games, my eyes were on him every time he was on the ice the last few games & I thought he played well with lackluster results. The Caps are still very young & hockey is a man's sport... We will win more than one cup in the next 10 years... Book it!

Posted by: tony325 | April 29, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

When I say BB's system, I also mean his COACHING and I think most people do as well.

in football some teams use 4-3 defense and some teams use 3-4 defense... NOT all 3-4 defenses are the same nor are all 4-3 defenses... a lot has to do with personnel but I'm sure there are coaching issues as well.

I don't care what forecheck system they happen to use, I just want it to work whatever the hell system it is.

Posted by: joek443 | April 29, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

All I am saying ablake70 is that I think the mistakes we see as a result of the "system" are minimal in quantity or damage. The mistakes we see as a result of poor decision making, lazy play, stupid play, etc, etc...happen far more often than I am comfortable with.

Not blocking shots on the rush...making no-look passes in our own zone...lazy back checking (Carlson!)....running into each other....these are not system issues. Flat out, poor decision making.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm still in shock... We gave up game #5 & that was kinda inexcusable the way we played... but we created so many opportunities in games 6 & 7... I'm just stunned at how many unlucky tips, hacks, bounces, etc etc didn't go our way in these last 2 games.

Varly had an ERA of 1.0 tonight & the Caps had an unearned run because of the dumbest hockey penalty I have ever seen... All Green had to do was grab the puck two skates to his right because the guy was on his backpedal & he chooses to CROSS-CHECK THE GUY??? This loss is on Green & as far as I'm concerned he is a nothing for as long as he is a Cap, I want him gone... that was a selfish play & changed the entire game.

I don't blame the refs for the call, but what I don't understand is why there is no review of the play? From my perspective, his skates were outside the lines when the puck crossed...

Finally... It feels like were choking dogs, but God Halak played AMAZING & this was our worst possible matchup in the first round... I never believed those who said we would win in 5, but the way we played tonight should of lead to a victory... we had the goaltending & we were attacking the net except for a short period in the game the Caps seemed to be really depressed due to the goal they allowed with no time left in the first.... F Mike Green!!!

Ok, leave the coaching staff in place & let's learn from this... Trade Mike Green to set a tone & Let's win it next year... Bruce Boudreau would be the scape goat, but I just can't see how we could of played better tonight, we poured our guts out but there were a lot of circumstantial situations that killed our momentum. We don't need anything but more effort & all I heard from Mike Green was how hungry everyone was, blah blah blah... he was an utter failure... bad passes, bad penalties, bad defense... I know Semin might be on the hook, but he played very hard both games, my eyes were on him every time he was on the ice the last few games & I thought he played well with lackluster results. The Caps are still very young & Hockey is a man's sport... We will win more than one cup in the next 10 years... Book it!

Posted by: tony325 | April 29, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Now, maybe some of the naysayers will give Puckguru his LONG OVERDUE HOMAGE. He's been consistently correct in his analysis from DAY # 1. From the beginning, he's criticized George McPhee for building a team with little heart or character. He's questioned many of his personnel decisions with passion, and amazing astuteness. And, all the while he's been vilified ( By most ) and underappreciated by the rest. Well, to all of you I say resoundingly, "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" I TOLD YOU THEY WERE A BUNCH OF SPINELESS WIMPS, WITH NOT A PINCH OF COURAGE. I TOLD YOU THEY'D CRUMBLE WHEN THINGS GOT TIGHT. THAT'S THE WAY SISSIES DO! BACK HOME ( Pgh., Pa. ) we call them, "Pretty Boys." You know. The kind Joe B. admires so much. The ones of the pretty passes, and breathtaking shots.
Puckguru TOLD YOU that junk doesn't fly during the Playoffs. But, few would listen. They kept talking about President's Cups and other such meaningless hogwash.
Now, because of his benevelent nature, Puckguru will spell out for you how EASY it would be for George to convert these "Pretenders" into "Contenders."
In no particular order: Get rid of Flash! He's worthless. Same goes for Poti and Sarge Nasty ( The ultimate joke for sure. Remind mike Green he's a DEFENSEMEN!! And, release Corvo and Walker. And, for christ's sake PLEASE, PLEASE stop this annointing of Varly as some kind of great goalie. He'll never be anything more than average. Michael Neauvirth is the best goalie in their system. I've said this for about a year, now. you'll see.
I wasn't given the name "Puckguru" simply because I'm tall, dark, and VERY handsome. Which, I assure you, is all quite true. I was annointed Puckguru simply because I'm just that! A guru at judging talent!! I rest my case.

Posted by: Puckguru | April 29, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Ov running his mouth about Halak came back to bit us as well...You never run your mouth about a team and give them something to fight or die for. Learn your lesson and keep your mouth shut next time.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 29, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Now, maybe some of the naysayers will give Puckguru his LONG OVERDUE HOMAGE. He's been consistently correct in his analysis from DAY # 1. From the beginning, he's criticized George McPhee for building a team with little heart or character. He's questioned many of his personnel decisions with passion, and amazing astuteness. And, all the while he's been vilified ( By most ) and underappreciated by the rest. Well, to all of you I say resoundingly, "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" I TOLD YOU THEY WERE A BUNCH OF SPINELESS WIMPS, WITH NOT A PINCH OF COURAGE. I TOLD YOU THEY'D CRUMBLE WHEN THINGS GOT TIGHT. THAT'S THE WAY SISSIES DO! BACK HOME ( Pgh., Pa. ) we call them, "Pretty Boys." You know. The kind Joe B. admires so much. The ones of the pretty passes, and breathtaking shots.
Puckguru TOLD YOU that junk doesn't fly during the Playoffs. But, few would listen. They kept talking about President's Cups and other such meaningless hogwash.
Now, because of his benevelent nature, Puckguru will spell out for you how EASY it would be for George to convert these "Pretenders" into "Contenders."
In no particular order: Get rid of Flash! He's worthless. Same goes for Poti and Sarge Nasty ( The ultimate joke for sure. Remind mike Green he's a DEFENSEMEN!! And, release Corvo and Walker. And, for christ's sake PLEASE, PLEASE stop this annointing of Varly as some kind of great goalie. He'll never be anything more than average. Michael Neauvirth is the best goalie in their system. I've said this for about a year, now. you'll see.
I wasn't given the name "Puckguru" simply because I'm tall, dark, and VERY handsome. Which, I assure you, is all quite true. I was annointed Puckguru simply because I'm just that! A guru at judging talent!! I rest my case.

Posted by: Puckguru | April 29, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

"I haven't really answered you because the question is just silly. Tons of team use the same system BB uses. It's nothing new, it's nothing unique, It's nothing ground-breaing.

It's a simple 2-1-2 fore check with heavy emphasis on pinching D. Heavy emphasis on the rush.

What is so hard to understand here?"

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If it's so obvious and silly, then just name one. For like the 4th time, "I am having a hard time thinking of one." Help a brother out and name one single team that had won the cup in the last decade playing a similar system.

I don't care how many teams in the league use it. I want to know how many winners use it. If it's so obvious as to be "silly" then actually giving me an answer shouldn't be this tooth-pullingly painful.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 29, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

one last word from Montréal.

Im impressed by the comments on this board. Obviously, Caps fans know the game. I used to think that only fans from Boston, Detroit, Pittsburgh, New Jersey, Chicago and NY were the only americans who really knew the game.

Im glad to add to my list Washington !

I love your team and I love the Caps fans. I also think that the sport section of the Washington Post is almost as good as what we have in Montréal ! ;)

I really enjoyed all the time I spent here ! I wish we will meet again next year !

Peace !

Marc from Montréal


Posted by: Montrealfan | April 29, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Ov running his mouth about Halak came back to bit us as well...You never run your mouth about a team and give them something to fight or die for. Learn your lesson and keep your mouth shut next time.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 29, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Ov running his mouth about Halak came back to bit us as well...You never run your mouth about a team and give them something to fight or die for. Learn your lesson and keep your mouth shut next time.

Posted by: ikerockthehouse | April 29, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

sorry for the double post... I'm drunk.

Posted by: tony325 | April 29, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

You were given the name puckguru because that's what you decided to call yourself when you registered.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Ugh. I've had enough of this for one night. I'm going to need the summer to recover.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | April 29, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Fire McPhee

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 29, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

If I had to rank the importance of factors that it takes to win a championship in any major sport, it's the following:

1. Talent
2. Management
3. Coaching

I am starting to side with richmondphil on Boudreau's system.

In general, at the pro level of any sport, coaching is not as critical as it during the developmental years. Success is largely determined by the abilities of the players, regardless of system.

Look at a guy like Alzner. You can clearly see that he is a more fundamentally sound defenseman than most of our veterans. He had those defensive skills and instincts from day one. While he is still adjusting to the speed and physicality of the NHL, his problem is not that he lacks an inherently strong defensive skill set as is the case with some of our other defensemen.

To me, the primary issue is personnel and the primary person responsible for putting together this flawed group of players is George McPhee.

I don't know who is out there but if I'm Ted, I make a serious effort this offseason to find a new GM with a new philosophy towards building a playoff-caliber hockey team.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

To lighten the mood a bit, days like this sort of make me miss when the team was awful. Disappointment never really hits when failure is spread across 82 games, and cheap tickets, whole rows to yourself, and no bathroom or concession lines were quite the luxury.

Posted by: swags | April 29, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

To me, the primary issue is personnel and the primary person responsible for putting together this flawed group of players is George McPhee.

I don't know who is out there but if I'm Ted, I make a serious effort this offseason to find a new GM with a new philosophy towards building a playoff-caliber hockey team.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 12:47 AM |

I agree.

BB has some serious issues, which need to be addressed. However, he should continue to play his system, because it flat out works. When you decide to not execute the system, when you decide that not giving 100% is okay...any system is going to fail.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Well I am now drunk and I have to teach in the morning. If I get fired I blame the Caps. pERHAPS a million bucks from Semin's six million next season. That seems fitting for the garbage I watched from him the past 2 weeks. Scared to death in the corners.

Posted by: Aldred15 | April 29, 2010 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Please, can someone please tell me how he carried the Pens with that. Crosby is a great player, but hockey is a team game and great teams have players who will step up in some games. The blame for the series goes on the PP, Green, Semin, Flash, poor 2nd line center play, and some on Laich (although that 3rd period goal does relieve him of some of the blame)

Posted by: sgm3 | April 29, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't question Ovi's ability and his heart but this was his 4th Game 7 and his team has lost 3 of them.

and his team was by far the best regular season team in the NHL this year for whatever that's worth. Not to mention this is the first time a #1 seed has lost a playoff series to a #8 seed after going up 3 games to 1.

NOBODY on this team can be blameless, least of all their best and highest-paid player.

Posted by: joek443 | April 29, 2010 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Too many players on the roster, never seen so many journeyman hanging around the halls, just another genius way of doing biz

Who will be back next in Wash ? Halpern or Zednik, maybe Pothier.

So happy Hershey and the Caps are so deep, glad Erskine and Jurcina will be ready for next season's opener

Posted by: Cheef | April 29, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

i wonder if you consider this "rock bottom"?

will changes be made? will the changes if any make a difference if the same people are making those changes?

i have to admit that a large majority of the people on this board were calling for more defensive responsibility and it not really came to fruition. was it really a lack of responsible defense that cost us this series?

what i got out of this was a lack of TEAM play and the fact that the positives about our team during the regular season went completely away in the playoffs.

do you guys think GMGM will make the right moves? what are those right moves? do you guys think we're close to having a cup winning team?

i don't know anymore, i'm stunned but i'm also not surprised, been there done that.

Posted by: natresgroup | April 29, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Yes hopefully ovi will learn that part of being a captain is to maintain some dignity and not diss opposing players especially during a series that isnt over yet. Havlak made him stick his words and perhaps he will learn. I mean has ovi ever won anything as a player I am not sure. He lost to cros as a junior he lost twice in the olympics he only got past round one of the playoffs once in a seven game series against an abysmal rangers team. Something is amiss.

Posted by: vhull | April 29, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Dude...I know that defense is the cliche for our team and everything, but seriously..

Just watch how the Caps defenders play guys on the rush and then watch how defenders of any other team play guys on the rush.

Night and day. And the contrast doesn't seem to stop there...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Hide your camera, Ovechkin might eat it

Posted by: Cheef | April 29, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

To me, the primary issue is personnel and the primary person responsible for putting together this flawed group of players is George McPhee.

Most of these guys played for BB before. Belanger and Corvo are here because they are BB guys. Flash, Laich, Green, Steckel, Schultz are BB guys. If he didn't think they were the right guys for his system, shouldn't he have asked GMGM not to trade for/bring up these guys?

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Seems correct that GMGM would bring in exactly what BB wants all the time, typical from a clueless, talentless excuse for a GM

Posted by: Cheef | April 29, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

i've liked every player on the team this year (but never really got attached to any of the trade deadline guys though).

i think these caps should be shopped:
green - imo, his assest/liability ratio is not high enough to keep him off the shop list.
semin - i love semin's skills and defended him many times - but 6m is too much to pay for 60-70 games a year (and maybe not get his best effort every game)
poti - at 3.5m i think there are others out there that can do the same for less
nyls - he is still on the books

i'd like them to keep (resign):
backstrom - no brainer
fehr - if you triple his salary (.772 to 2.1m) and double his minutes - he'll be one of the biggest bargains on the team
gordon - **
steckel - **
laing - **
s morrisonn - he could price himself out of washington
jurcina - i just like him for some reason
schultz - someone please teach him to hit (at least a little)
neuvirth - could be #1 by november
** you gotta have serviceable (affordable) role players

let these guys walk:
b morrison
flash - will want way too much when there are bigger holes to fill
walker
belanger
corvo
theo (i'd like to keep him but not at 4.5m)

under contract to keep:
ovi
knuble
laich
chimera
bradley
steckel
erskine
sloan
carlson
alzner
varlamov

i've been disappointed by the caps many times over the years. but this was by far the biggest letdown.

the caps need to be much more physical (not enforcer physical) if they want to really contend for the cup.
i thought their talent would carry them much further into the postseason - but now i have to question the commitment (heart) of the team and team concept.
i hope Ted, GMGM and BB re-evaluate the approach that has been taken to build a cup worthy contender.
i don't think they need major changes but they do need some playoff leadership and physical grittiness

is it october yet?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 29, 2010 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Don't be so hard on yourselves guys! I'm a habs fan and would EASILY trade your team for mine anytime (except for the Goalie!!). You got great talent and an exciting team. All you need is some smart coaching and getting better in your own zone. For me the capitals loss/habs win, besides the beyond this world goaltending by Halak, is due to somesmart coaching by coach Martin and some poor choices (and declerations (!??)) by coach Boudreau. The reality is that next year the Habs will still be battling for a shot at the playoffs and your team will still be one of the best in the league and then who knows, some "adjustments" behind the bench could make the difference!

Posted by: HabsFan41 | April 29, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

When Green got his second penalty I texted my friend that Green was going to cost the Caps this game. Sure enough in the third period, he decided to play the man instead of the puck and Montreal put the game out of reach. Green, game 7 is on you but the failure in the playoffs in on the entire organization up and down. Letting this series slip away was the lowest I have felt as a Caps fan in 25 years.

Posted by: madflava | April 29, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

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