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Many Caps take their option after Game 1 loss

Today's practice at Kettler Capitals Iceplex was lightly attended -- no Alex Ovechkin, Alexander Semin, Nicklas Backstrom or Jose Theodore. Tarik just talked to players and will have an update soon.

In the meantime, it's time for a quick, unscientific poll. The Caps did a lot right in Game 1. They had solid goaltending from Theodore and the role players stepped up. But they took too many penalties and the top line was less than stellar; Ovechkin didn't register a shot on goal and today told reporters, "I didn't play my game at all." Montreal, on the other hand, got a 45-save performance out of Jaroslav Halak -- and, as the Caps well know, a hot goalie can make all the difference in a series.

Was it opening-night nerves, overconfidence or something else for the Caps? More important, is it something they'll overcome? Weigh in:

By Lindsay Applebaum  |  April 16, 2010; 12:01 PM ET
 
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I alluded to something similar last night, but was the ice bad or something?
We fanned on a bunch of shots & every1 was falling on the ice.
Carlson came off once to have the equipment manager look @ his skates.
Both teams just didn't look in sync.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 16, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame when 1 defender is able to stop an odd-man break TWICE!

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

On optional practices with playoffs key losses...

Are optional practices completely optional (i.e., don't even have to show up) or just optional in terms of the skating part?

If discipline, working out the kinks, sloppy play were issues, why wouldn't practice help?

It just seems sometimes lack of practice and lack of chemistry go hand in hand and with the 1st 3 lines, there was lots of lacking last night.

Anyone has some insight into the discipline/practice issue and how other top teams (Pens, Wings) handle it?

Posted by: fehrrocks | April 16, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Positives last night:

- John Carlson. What a future this kids got. At times last night he seemed like the best player on the ice. Can't wait to see how his career pans out.

- Theo. One of his best games as a Capital. If he continues his play that way, that definitely favors the Caps.

- Chimera. His speed is so noticable out there. Would love for him to start putting the puck in the net though. Glad he got an assist last night... much deserved.

Montreal was getting knocked off the puck most of the game. All the Caps have to do is work out their PP and they will be ok. As for the PK, when you get your stick on the puck... CLEAR IT. I'm looking at you Poti.

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

They didn't lose last night because of discipline.

But yeah, everyone should have been at practice.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell me I'm reading too much into this, but I find it unsettling that a practice during the playoffs is optional. It just seems like it sends the wrong message. I understand light work or some sort of walk through, but I would think even when winning it should be all attend or none attend.

Posted by: nfb987 | April 16, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Too bad. The top two lines could use some practice.

Posted by: JillC | April 16, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Can't hinge the hopes on the PP, but they HAVE to do a better job capitalizing on their chances. Backs 2 on 1 with Knuble? ended up with him not taking a shot or making a pass.

Carlson's 2 on 1 with whoever was almost as bad.

There is NO excuse to get outplayed by a single defender on a odd-man break in the 3rd period like that. Sure, let the goalie stone you, but a single defender should not be able to stop the play.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I would hope it means that many did not skate, but all are there to view video of the loss. Some of the things BB does baffle me. Have an entire practice devoted to the PK and the PP. Those two facets win and lose you games, and right now it seems Montreal has the upperhand in the series (including the "it doesn't mean anything now" regular season).

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"Taking the option" means choosing to practice, not choosing not to. It's called an "optional practice," not an "optional day off from practice."

Posted by: sonsofcain | April 16, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Is everyone forgetting these guys have played 83 games and some even more due to Olympics? It's (hopefully) a long playoffs, you have to give the guys, especially the top ice-time guys, a break between games. It's not like they going to practice for an hour and fix the all their problems. Besides, most of the problem is inbetween their ears at this point.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 16, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

@ Moose83

I do agree that a lot were in the Olympics, but lacing em up everyday and doing little walkthroughs is not going to wear you out in the long run but keep chemistry going and your legs fresh. Now, if someone is hurt then not taking the option to practice is understandable.

I definitley agree that a lot of last nights loss is between their ears. Too much thinking going on. When you think too much, you make mistakes and lose.

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I think something is bothering Ovie. He's not playing the way I used to see him play. This is very noticeable when he came back from the Olympics. He should forget that, it's done. Backstom is playing well even if he did'nt win any medal. Not winning in the Olympics or getting suspensions should not affect him in a negative way, but instead make him a better hockey player. He should attend practice session and not be lazy because he's the best player in the world. Even the best cars will get rusty if you don't warm it up and try running it on the road.

Posted by: capsfan2007 | April 16, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

If you guys seriously think Ovi is caring about the Olympics right now, you're crazy.

He had a shadow on him the entire time hence why Backs and others got odd-man breaks..AND DIDN'T SCORE!

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

He had a shadow on him the entire time hence why Backs and others got odd-man breaks..AND DIDN'T SCORE!

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:37 PM

Word.

Posted by: nena1 | April 16, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Is it possible to want something too much? To the point where that desire makes it impossible to get it? I want the cup as much as the next guy but I'm wondering if all the "nothing else matters" stuff is really good for everyone. I mean, good grief Verizon Center was oozing with nervousness yesterday, not just from the players but from the fans, and that was only game 1.

Chill out peoples. Stop screaming "aaah! aaah!" and "no!" everytime the puck comes close to the crease. And quit moaning everytime our guys get trapped in our zone for more than 5 seconds. I hope these were people who rarely attend hockey games.

We've gotten a little spoiled with the scoring we're used to seeing in the regular season. Like the guy next to me couldn't get over the fact we had 19 shots in the first yet only 1 goal. Yeah it's frustrating but you can't let it get to you like that. Teams have been shut out for entire games with a lot more shots. I didn't think half of them last night were very good chances anyway.

That being said, I'm looking forward to a great game Saturday. Let's hope we've gotten the first day jitters out of the way for good.

Posted by: letsgocaps3 | April 16, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Carlson's two on one was with Gordon so he didn't have much to work with.

Backs' THREE on one in the OT was with Ovi and don't know who the third guy was but waited too long to make a decision... THAT was really bad

Posted by: joek443 | April 16, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Ovie is not right. He is becoming a distraction.

No, I don't think we should sit him, I think some of the "MEN" should step up and act like men and get the job done!

Don't wait for OVIE!

Posted by: SoaringCaps | April 16, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Since you aren't gonna get rid of ov or backs I say get rid of semin. He is a ghost in the playoffs. Or I think you gotta fire Bb. His system doesn't seem to do that well on the playoffs.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 16, 2010 9:35 AM |

Semin is actually a pt/player in the playoffs. Try again.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovie is fine! He had a rough game, but I thought the last two weeks of the regular season he was looking better. As soon as the Caps start making Montreal pay for putting a shadow on Ovie...and another guy as soon as he touches the puck, then it will force them to play more evenly and Ovie will get chances...I realize that what I said is a bit incoherent.

The only thing I want to see more of from Ovie is hitting...he looks happier when he hits and usually plays better...but he is probably paranoid (with good reason) that he'll get suspended again...esp since the Canadiens are so tiny!

Posted by: capscoach | April 16, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Not a single Caps forward played well or hard enough last night to deserve today off. It's not surprising that they got it though, Boudreau doesn't seem interested in holding anyone accountable for the way they play.

Posted by: spacecadetkid | April 16, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

pt/game...but you know what I mean.

@joek443

Yeah, but Carlson didn't have to chip it back to Gordon like that all fast. Again, they have to be able to bury one on those odd-man breaks.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Ovie does still care about the Olympics.

They choked. All he talked about leading up to it was playing in 2014. That created a big distraction, around the league. He was so "proud" of his stance, then they choked and now he is bummed out.

Olympics were great, but the Stanley Cup is what you play for!

Posted by: SoaringCaps | April 16, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

If you guys seriously think Ovi is caring about the Olympics right now, you're crazy.

He had a shadow on him the entire time hence why Backs and others got odd-man breaks..AND DIDN'T SCORE!

Posted by: richmondphil |


Share how you really feel Richmonphil!! LMAO!! Good for you....

Posted by: PhilR | April 16, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

We panic when Boudreau panics.

How will Boudreau panic? By changing the goalie...which he should NOT do (and I'm the biggest Theo hater there is)...

Posted by: SoaringCaps | April 16, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

More than 10% of the posters here have already pushed the "Big Red Panic" button.

Posted by: Shiba-fussa | April 16, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The real problem is that we now have a losing record to Montreal on the year, at 2-3. They present massive matchup problems for us and unless we address those, this will be a long series at best.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | April 16, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

Semin = a liability. He is either the best player on the ice, or the worst. And he needs to act like he gives a damn EVERY night, not once every three games.

Maybe you try him on the number one line and move Knuble to the second line.

I have always thought Semin is tradeable because the Capitals do not need his offense. They could totally trade him to someone who needs offense and pickup some good D men. They would make up for his 40 goals I think.

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

LOL..Yeah, a professional sports player is really concerning himself about the freaking Olympics during the playoffs.

If you want to critique Ovie, go find some valid excuses. None of this cliche, rhetoric. yawn...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

re than 10% of the posters here have already pushed the "Big Red Panic" button.

Posted by: Shiba-fussa | April 16, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

actually that ain't too bad... I expected at least a quarter, lol

Posted by: joek443 | April 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Semin actually had a number of nice shots in the first period on both power plays and was our best player along with Knuble in the early going. As the ice got softer and puck handling became nearly impossible, he struggled and even lost a puck while simply skaing up ice. He showed up last night, although I don't think the same can be said for Ovie, Green, Fehr, and Fleischman. They all played tentatively all night.

What's up with Brooks Laich? He had 3 seperate point blank chances on Havlat and didn't bury one. Those chances are few and far between in the playoffs so you've got to score when you get them. Brooks hasn't scored since the eye injury and wonder if its affecting him wearing the protective mask. Either way, he's got to score when he's alone in front on the goalie.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

>>Yeah, but Carlson didn't have to chip it back to Gordon like that all fast. Again, they have to be able to bury one on those odd-man breaks.

I coulda sworn on Comcast's telecast, I saw Dean Evason briefly bark at Carlson when he returned to the bench after that play. I assume he just said "SHOOT the puck!" 'cause Carlson probably has a better shot than Gordon. :)

Posted by: blackjack65 | April 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many times Gretzky and Mario had people all over their back. How about Mike Bossy? OVI is caring too much weight and it is wearing him out. He does not seem to learn from his mistakes and his hockey IQ seems to be going the wrong direction. Disenaged for 22 out of the last 24 games. Poor decisions.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Semin was no where near the worst forward on the ice last night.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I have always thought Semin is tradeable because the Capitals do not need his offense. They could totally trade him to someone who needs offense and pickup some good D men. They would make up for his 40 goals I think.

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse


you seriously think they don't need his offense after last night?

Posted by: joek443 | April 16, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

He had 3 seperate point blank chances on Havlat and didn't bury one.

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Haha. Martin Havlat is a forward for the Wild. :) Legitimate mistake though, their names are similar.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I coulda sworn on Comcast's telecast, I saw Dean Evason briefly bark at Carlson when he returned to the bench after that play. I assume he just said "SHOOT the puck!" 'cause Carlson probably has a better shot than Gordon. :)

Posted by: blackjack65 | April 16, 2010 12:51 PM |

I wouldn't doubt it. When Carlson chipped it back to Gordon like a crackhead, I knew that chance was done.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain what happened last night in OT at this one point when Montreal iced the puck?

The crowd had been in the doldrums pretty much since Green's penalty in the third. But they lit a spark and Montreal iced it and the whole crowd at VC stood up and started clapping and chanting "Let's Go Caps," un-prompted by Goat, horn guy, or the Jumbotron. It was inspired. As they went to take the faceoff, all of a sudden the refs stopped play and the crew came out to clear up the ice. That was a darned shame too.

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team). WTF happened, because we were lifting the team to victory?

Posted by: Justafan | April 16, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I've seen Mario get shut down for a game or two in the series against the Caps but never for a whole series... almost impossible to shut down guys like Gretz and Mario for an entire playoff series

hopefully Ovi will bounce back

Posted by: joek443 | April 16, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

@ wizfan89

Laich scored in the Boston game on April 5.

@ joek443

Well, considering Semin had no points last night, that means he had no offense last night and lost the puck a lot. He wasn't the worst forward out there no, but he definitely was glaring more times than not with his puck handling (aka, failure to complete the same curl and drag move).

My point is the guys got talent galore (maybe even more talented that Ovi) but his lack of caring night in and night out shows. We don't need that on this team. Anything less than 100 percent, go play somewhere else.

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom seems to be more patient with the puck these days. Backstrom seems to be the best all around player on this team now. You can look at plus and minus but OVI is very rarely out in key defensive situation or penalty killing. Backstrom plays a more challenging position. His hockey IQ seems better. He learns from mistakes and gets better by the minute. Backstrom makes OVI better not the other way around these days. In ten years we will be talking about Backstrom as one of the greatest ever.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The Yankees lost game one of the World Series too and were lifeless in that game too (humiliated by the Phillies pitcher Cliff Lee)

The Stanley Cup is never won or lost on day one.

If anything I think we put too much stock and energy into the first game because we are so excited to see the playoffs.

When teams start dying out by game 5 and game 6 those losers will not have anywhere near the intensity of the teams that played last nights game.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Caps fan for 32 years, why should I really expect anything different. Although I do, there is a reason Mtl is an eighth seed and we are a one. Oh well, the worlds coming to an end and its just a hockey game......

Posted by: DCFanatic | April 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, Mmaking better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he has played much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, Mmaking better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he has played much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, Mmaking better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he has played much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

@Richmondphil

Ovi has had a shadow on him in nearly every game, by far better teams than the Habs, and he still manages to produce, or at the very least register shots. I am convinced that he is carrying some kind of injury.

You are one of the smartest hockey people here, and I respect very much your comments, agree with you most of the time, but I think you should re-watch that game if you have it taped. I was there and watched it again last night. He is not skating with his usual gusto...which always involves "shadows."

Posted by: eyechip | April 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovechkin and Semin want to join Russian team to play in the next month world championship , they dont care about Stanley Cup .

Posted by: knopka | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team). WTF happened, because we were lifting the team to victory?

Posted by: Justafan

In OT at 10 minute ppoint or first whistle after that point they come out to remove the ice from the goal areas. This is done because they don't have TV time outs in OT. They caught a bad break as the icing call was the first whistle after the 10 minute mark.

Posted by: jdove80 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@justafan
Locker said last night that there are no TV timeouts in overtime. So the league mandates a timeout to clean the ice at the first whistle after the midway point of the overtime period. Unfortunately last night that worked in the Habs favor, giving them an extra rest when they shouldn't have had it.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

They present massive matchup problems for us and unless we address those, this will be a long series at best.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder

What specific match up problems are you talking about?

Posted by: Steve_R | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

The Yankees lost game one of the World Series too and were lifeless in that game too (humiliated by the Phillies pitcher Cliff Lee)

The Stanley Cup is never won or lost on day one.

If anything I think we put too much stock and energy into the first game because we are so excited to see the playoffs.

When teams start dying out by game 5 and game 6 those losers will not have anywhere near the intensity of the teams that played last nights game.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

They can stop play to clean the ice.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

The Yankees lost game one of the World Series too and were lifeless in that game too (humiliated by the Phillies pitcher Cliff Lee)

The Stanley Cup is never won or lost on day one.

If anything I think we put too much stock and energy into the first game because we are so excited to see the playoffs.

When teams start dying out by game 5 and game 6 those losers will not have anywhere near the intensity of the teams that played last nights game.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@Richmondphil

Ovi has had a shadow on him in nearly every game, by far better teams than the Habs, and he still manages to produce, or at the very least register shots. I am convinced that he is carrying some kind of injury.

You are one of the smartest hockey people here, and I respect very much your comments, agree with you most of the time, but I think you should re-watch that game if you have it taped. I was there and watched it again last night. He is not skating with his usual gusto...which always involves "shadows."

Posted by: eyechip | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

OK, for all of you in a panic, maybe this will help settle you down, at least for today.

Here is how the eventual Stanley Cup Champions did in their first round dating back to the 1996 playoffs which was the season immediately following the stoppage in the the 1994-95 season that only had 48 regular season games.

2009 Penguins won 4-2
2008 Red Wing won 4-2
2007 Ducks won 4-1
2006 Hurricanes won 4-2 (lost 1st 2 games of the series @ home)
2005 Lightning 4-1
2003 Devils 4-1
2002 Red Wings 4-2 (lost 1st 2 games of the series @ home)
2001 Avalanche 4-0
2000 Devils 4-0
1999 Stars 4-0
1998 Red Wings 4-2 (split 1st 2 games of series @ home and actually went down 2-1)
1997 Red Wings 4-2 (split 1st 2 games @ home, losing game 1)
1996 Avalanche 4-2 (split 1st 2 games @ home)

Besides the stretch from 1999-2001, a sweep by the eventual champion has not happened.

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team). WTF happened, because we were lifting the team to victory?

Posted by: Justafan

In OT at 10 minute ppoint or first whistle after that point they come out to remove the ice from the goal areas. This is done because they don't have TV time outs in OT. They caught a bad break as the icing call was the first whistle after the 10 minute mark.

Posted by: jdove80 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@JustaFan

In overtime, while there are no commerical breaks it is required that they "clean" the ice one time a period as close to the 10 minute mark as possible. So when they iced it at 8:10 i guess that was the first time they could do it. I agree, i was watching on tv and it definitely killed any kind advantage to the icing. Mon got the rest and the crowd seddled down.

Posted by: Gotime32 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@Richmondphil

Ovi has had a shadow on him in nearly every game, by far better teams than the Habs, and he still manages to produce, or at the very least register shots. I am convinced that he is carrying some kind of injury.

You are one of the smartest hockey people here, and I respect very much your comments, agree with you most of the time, but I think you should re-watch that game if you have it taped. I was there and watched it again last night. He is not skating with his usual gusto...which always involves "shadows."

Posted by: eyechip | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@ wizfan89

Laich scored in the Boston game on April 5.

@ joek443

Well, considering Semin had no points last night, that means he had no offense last night and lost the puck a lot. He wasn't the worst forward out there no, but he definitely was glaring more times than not with his puck handling (aka, failure to complete the same curl and drag move).

My point is the guys got talent galore (maybe even more talented that Ovi) but his lack of caring night in and night out shows. We don't need that on this team. Anything less than 100 percent, go play somewhere else.

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@ wizfan89

Laich scored in the Boston game on April 5.

@ joek443

Well, considering Semin had no points last night, that means he had no offense last night and lost the puck a lot. He wasn't the worst forward out there no, but he definitely was glaring more times than not with his puck handling (aka, failure to complete the same curl and drag move).

My point is the guys got talent galore (maybe even more talented that Ovi) but his lack of caring night in and night out shows. We don't need that on this team. Anything less than 100 percent, go play somewhere else.

Posted by: SuperZ3383 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovechkin and Semin want to join Russian team to play in the next month world championship , they dont care about Stanley Cup .

Posted by: knopka | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

As they went to take the faceoff, all of a sudden the refs stopped play and the crew came out to clear up the ice. That was a darned shame too.

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team).
Posted by: Justafan | April 16, 2010 12:57 PM

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Does anyone know what this was about? The tv crew commented on it and said some of the Caps were complaining as well.

Would it have changed the outcome? Who knows and props to the Habs for taking care of business, but this did seem to be out of the norm.


Posted by: NatsPark408Byrd306 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Caps fan for 32 years, why should I really expect anything different. Although I do, there is a reason Mtl is an eighth seed and we are a one. Oh well, the worlds coming to an end and its just a hockey game......

Posted by: DCFanatic | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, Mmaking better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he has played much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

ON parctice_ I played on national champion contending d1 lax teams. We practiced until we got it right. did not matter if we had a hard game the day before or not. To avoid ncaa regs the coaches left the captains to run practice and all coaches left. we stayed until it was right, no matter what.

ON tired. see above, I thought I was exhausted and that 4 hour practices were going to kill me. I joined the USMC after school and was in infantry. I learned what tired was for little pay. These guys are millionares and don't know what fatigue is. Try going 7-10 days with 2 hrs sleep per and pounding 10-30 kms a night with your ruck. I don't buy the tired crap.

These guys need to play with heart and like the give a damn. Good does not get it done in the playoffs. Check if you got a pair and play your arses off like there is no tomorrow, because if you don't-there will be no game tomorrow, except on the linx.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

As they went to take the faceoff, all of a sudden the refs stopped play and the crew came out to clear up the ice. That was a darned shame too.

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team).
Posted by: Justafan | April 16, 2010 12:57 PM

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Does anyone know what this was about? The tv crew commented on it and said some of the Caps were complaining as well.

Could it have changed the outcome? Who knows and props to the Habs for taking care of business, but this did seem to be out of the norm.

Posted by: NatsPark408Byrd306 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

As they went to take the faceoff, all of a sudden the refs stopped play and the crew came out to clear up the ice. That was a darned shame too.

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team).
Posted by: Justafan | April 16, 2010 12:57 PM

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Does anyone know what this was about? The tv crew commented on it and said some of the Caps were complaining as well.

Could it have changed the outcome? Who knows and props to the Habs for taking care of business, but this did seem to be out of the norm.

Posted by: NatsPark408Byrd306 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, Mmaking better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he has played much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like the "nothing else matters" intro either. I thought it seemed desperate and somewhat pretentious all at the same time.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, making better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he ha splayed much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Darn it, have to try this again.

For all of you hitting the panic button, maybe this will put you at ease, at least for today.

Here are the results for the 1st round for the eventual Stanley Cup Champions beginning in 1996 following the shortened season of 1994-95.

2009 Penguins 4-2
2008 Red Wings 4-2
2007 Ducks 4-1
2006 Hurricanes 4-2 (Lost game 1 and 2 @ home to...Montreal)
2005 Lightning 4-1
2003 Devils 4-1
2002 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1 and 2 @ home)
2001 Avalanche 4-0
2000 Devils 4-0
1999 Stars 4-0
1998 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1 @ home and actually went down 2-1)
1997 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1)
1996 Avalanche 4-2 (split 1st 2 at home)

Relax...

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

ON parctice_ I played on national champion contending d1 lax teams. We practiced until we got it right. did not matter if we had a hard game the day before or not. To avoid ncaa regs the coaches left the captains to run practice and all coaches left. we stayed until it was right, no matter what.

ON tired. see above, I thought I was exhausted and that 4 hour practices were going to kill me. I joined the USMC after school and was in infantry. I learned what tired was for little pay. These guys are millionares and don't know what fatigue is. Try going 7-10 days with 2 hrs sleep per and pounding 10-30 kms a night with your ruck. I don't buy the tired crap.

These guys need to play with heart and like the give a damn. Good does not get it done in the playoffs. Check if you got a pair and play your arses off like there is no tomorrow, because if you don't-there will be no game tomorrow, except on the linx.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

ON parctice_ I played on national champion contending d1 lax teams. We practiced until we got it right. did not matter if we had a hard game the day before or not. To avoid ncaa regs the coaches left the captains to run practice and all coaches left. we stayed until it was right, no matter what.

ON tired. see above, I thought I was exhausted and that 4 hour practices were going to kill me. I joined the USMC after school and was in infantry. I learned what tired was for little pay. These guys are millionares and don't know what fatigue is. Try going 7-10 days with 2 hrs sleep per and pounding 10-30 kms a night with your ruck. I don't buy the tired crap.

These guys need to play with heart and like the give a damn. Good does not get it done in the playoffs. Check if you got a pair and play your arses off like there is no tomorrow, because if you don't-there will be no game tomorrow, except on the linx.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

They present massive matchup problems for us and unless we address those, this will be a long series at best.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder

What specific match up problems are you talking about?

Posted by: Steve_R | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

As they went to take the faceoff, all of a sudden the refs stopped play and the crew came out to clear up the ice. That was a darned shame too.

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team).
Posted by: Justafan | April 16, 2010 12:57 PM

------

Does anyone know what this was about? The tv crew commented on it and said some of the Caps were complaining as well.

Would it have changed the outcome? Who knows and props to the Habs for taking care of business, but this did seem to be out of the norm.


Posted by: NatsPark408Byrd306 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team). WTF happened, because we were lifting the team to victory?

Posted by: Justafan

In OT at 10 minute ppoint or first whistle after that point they come out to remove the ice from the goal areas. This is done because they don't have TV time outs in OT. They caught a bad break as the icing call was the first whistle after the 10 minute mark.

Posted by: jdove80 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

You can stop play to fix the ice.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom seems to be more patient with the puck these days. Backstrom seems to be the best all around player on this team now. You can look at plus and minus but OVI is very rarely out in key defensive situation or penalty killing. Backstrom plays a more challenging position. His hockey IQ seems better. He learns from mistakes and gets better by the minute. Backstrom makes OVI better not the other way around these days. In ten years we will be talking about Backstrom as one of the greatest ever.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, Mmaking better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he has played much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom seems to be more patient with the puck these days. Backstrom seems to be the best all around player on this team now. You can look at plus and minus but OVI is very rarely out in key defensive situation or penalty killing. Backstrom plays a more challenging position. His hockey IQ seems better. He learns from mistakes and gets better by the minute. Backstrom makes OVI better not the other way around these days. In ten years we will be talking about Backstrom as one of the greatest ever.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovechkin and Semin want to join Russian team to play in the next month world championship , they dont care about Stanley Cup .

Posted by: knopka | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@justafan: What they said on Versus was that in the playoff OT, they only groom the ice once a period, at the halfway mark. That was why, in theory, they did what you observed.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Yep, that was a deflating loss last night and I did my best to help them by downing a whole bottle of pinot noir - alas to no avail. Gotta keep plugging away though - grind them down. I think for the next game I'll stick to Miller light.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team). WTF happened, because we were lifting the team to victory?

Posted by: Justafan

In OT at 10 minute ppoint or first whistle after that point they come out to remove the ice from the goal areas. This is done because they don't have TV time outs in OT. They caught a bad break as the icing call was the first whistle after the 10 minute mark.

Posted by: jdove80 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@justafan
Locker said last night that there are no TV timeouts in overtime. So the league mandates a timeout to clean the ice at the first whistle after the midway point of the overtime period. Unfortunately last night that worked in the Habs favor, giving them an extra rest when they shouldn't have had it.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Darn it, have to try this again.

For all of you hitting the panic button, maybe this will put you at ease, at least for today.

Here are the results for the 1st round for the eventual Stanley Cup Champions beginning in 1996 following the shortened season of 1994-95.

2009 Penguins 4-2
2008 Red Wings 4-2
2007 Ducks 4-1
2006 Hurricanes 4-2 (Lost game 1 and 2 @ home to...Montreal)
2005 Lightning 4-1
2003 Devils 4-1
2002 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1 and 2 @ home)
2001 Avalanche 4-0
2000 Devils 4-0
1999 Stars 4-0
1998 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1 @ home and actually went down 2-1)
1997 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1)
1996 Avalanche 4-2 (split 1st 2 at home)

Relax...

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

You can stop play to clean the ice.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Now icing never results in a timeout unless it's called by a team -- no commercial breaks or other breaks allowed (otherwise you would undermine the advantage given to the other team). WTF happened, because we were lifting the team to victory?

Posted by: Justafan

In OT at 10 minute ppoint or first whistle after that point they come out to remove the ice from the goal areas. This is done because they don't have TV time outs in OT. They caught a bad break as the icing call was the first whistle after the 10 minute mark.

Posted by: jdove80 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Darn it, have to try this again.

For all of you hitting the panic button, maybe this will put you at ease, at least for today.

Here are the results for the 1st round for the eventual Stanley Cup Champions beginning in 1996 following the shortened season of 1994-95.

2009 Penguins 4-2
2008 Red Wings 4-2
2007 Ducks 4-1
2006 Hurricanes 4-2 (Lost game 1 and 2 @ home to...Montreal)
2005 Lightning 4-1
2003 Devils 4-1
2002 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1 and 2 @ home)
2001 Avalanche 4-0
2000 Devils 4-0
1999 Stars 4-0
1998 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1 @ home and actually went down 2-1)
1997 Red Wings 4-2 (Lost game 1)
1996 Avalanche 4-2 (split 1st 2 at home)

Relax...

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@justafan

As Locker said last night, there are no TV timeouts in overtime. So the league says there should be a mandatory time out to sweep the ice at the first whistle after the midway point of the overtime period. Unfortunately, last night that mandatory time out worked in the Habs favor, giving them a rest when they should not have had one.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

They present massive matchup problems for us and unless we address those, this will be a long series at best.

Posted by: cali_snowboarder

What specific match up problems are you talking about?

Posted by: Steve_R | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Semin has been one of the best players for the Caps the last 25-30 games. He is improving, making less silly play, taking less penalties, Mmaking better decisions. Aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. Lets just say that he has played much better hockey than OVI since the break Semin had six shots on goal last night. I thought he looked better than everyone not named Backs and Chimera. If Chimera did not have cement hands he would be deadly.

Posted by: pkme | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

They can stop play to clean the ice.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Justafan:
the way VS explained it was that the ice is cleared around the goalie crease near the halfway point of a period - this stoppage in play was when they did this even though there was no comm break or timeout called

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I'll say it's an unscientific poll: the numbers add up to 98%.

Fight through it, Caps - I'm dull to the pain of my failed sports heroes (starting with Joe Shlabotnik.) You either bring it or you don't, and I love you regardless.

But do me a solid and bring it; I'll be much happier. GO CAPS!!

Posted by: info_stuporhighway | April 16, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

@justafan

I believe the crowd thought the whistle was a montreal penalty which is why they got all riled up.

The guys on CSN explained the break - in playoffs OT there are no TV timeouts so at the first whistle after the 10 minute mark the refs will pause to let the ice crew maintain the ice. It was really bad timing in this case and some of the caps players were pretty unhappy about it.

Posted by: psujohn | April 16, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I'll say it's an unscientific poll: the numbers add up to 98%.

Fight through it, Caps - I'm dull to the pain of my failed sports heroes (starting with Joe Shlabotnik.) You either bring it or you don't, and I love you regardless.

But do me a solid and bring it; I'll be much happier. GO CAPS!!

Posted by: info_stuporhighway | April 16, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

im so tired of these optional pratices there are glaring thing to work on after that game and they just give them a day off.PP horrible. they kept making the same mistake over and over again.i think morrison will be in for gordon need some more offense its not panic time but it just pisses me off that we always have to do things the hard way

Posted by: vjridgely | April 16, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why Ovi and Semin got the day off, they already took off last night.

Posted by: bndra12 | April 16, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Folks, optional practices refer to on ice activities. guys like ov, etc played big minutes last night (and may be hurting to boot.) do you think they will benefit from and hour on the ice at this point? doubtful. however, they were in the building and no doubt looking at film from last night. clearly, reviewing film and devising a strategy to defeat montreal's trap is key, not an hour working up a sweat on the ice. calm down.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | April 16, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

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