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Boudreau: Johansson has 'more defensive upside' than Perreault

While the Capitals spoke at length on their Stanley Cup aspirations during media day this afternoon at Kettler Capitals Iceplex, there was a brief interlude to the optimism accompanying a fresh start when the topic of conversation turned to cuts. Earlier this morning, the club had announced the assignment of forwards Mathieu Perreault, Jay Beagle and Andrew Gordon (if he clears waivers) to Hershey.

"It's always a tough day telling a player he's not ready to play here, or he may have to go through waivers," GM George McPhee said. "That's the toughest part of the job, and today was as difficult as any day we've had doing it."

The decision to send down Perreault, a fan favorite each time he played last season at Verizon Center, was especially taxing after he competed admirably against Marcus Johansson for a roster spot. Both play center, but Coach Bruce Boudreau alluded to the Swede's defense as among the determining factors for keeping the team's first-round pick (24th overall) in last year's draft.

"We think Matty at his stage right now has probably got more offensive upside," Boudreau said. "Marcus has got more defensive upside with the skating and just coming from Sweden, where they preach defense all the time. It's a really tough call. Who knows what would have happened or how it would have if, say, Matty had to clear waivers."

The Capitals will have to wait on just that for Gordon, who was their seventh-round pick in the 2004 draft. Gordon played two games with Washington last season and 79 with Hershey. He was one of two AHL players to score 50 goals combined in the regular season and playoffs in 2009-10.

Today's cuts also mean forward Matt Hendricks will be with the Capitals when they begin their season on Friday night at Atlanta. Washington signed Hendricks to a one-year contract late last month. In his preseason debut, the forward, who spent the past two seasons with Colorado, tallied a hat trick in a 6-2 victory over Columbus.

By Gene Wang  | October 5, 2010; 2:10 PM ET
Categories:  George McPhee, Marcus Johansson, Mathieu Perreault, Matt Hendricks  
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Like MarJo going back to Sweden if he did not make the team had absolutely nothing to so with this decision. Had hoped for a miracle and that both made the team. Just hope Perreault makes it up this season as he did well with Fehr and Chimera.

Posted by: NovaCath1 | October 5, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

For those wondering how NJ is getting under the salary cap. They plan to put Salvador and Salmella on LTIR. And also to only go with 11 F's, 7 D and 2 goalies. So only 21 of the 23 available roster spots. Once Salvador is healthy they run into a major problem though.

Posted by: ThePat | October 5, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

@nova

GMGM said today it wasn't MaJo's option to go back to Sweden. It was the team's option to send him there or Hershey. People just need to deal with the fact MaJo is a better all around player than the defensive liability that is MP.

Posted by: ThePat | October 5, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how long it takes for this system to erase all of MaJo's natural defensive instincts.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 5, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Time to make a move for Bieksa. Vancouver's in salary dump mode with O'Brien out of the picture and Parent on waivers immediately after. Think they might be down to just over $1M they need to remove. A Bieksa/Fleichmann swap should just about do it for them.

Posted by: Stu_c | October 5, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I enjoyed watching MP just as much as everyone else last season. Great player, but doesn't add anything to this team that's not already there, and can't be played on the 3rd or 4th lines.

As a fill in for an injured first or second line center (assuming that we actually have a legitimate 2nd line center. There is probably no better player in the world than MP.

It would be nice to think that we could trade him+fleischman to a team that needs some scoring in exchange for someone who can really kick some ass.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Hendricks will be brendan Morrison part 2 in the sens that he had a great camp, will come out with a bang and then flame out 1/2 way through the season? And no, i do not think his spot should have gone to MP.

Posted by: LesGrossman | October 5, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Pokerface

Whatya say? - Bieksa for Flash...still possible?

Posted by: jeets | October 5, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Johansson & Hendricks for making the Varsity team. Matty P, Beagle, A Gordon (if he clears waivers) keep working hard in Hershey, I am sure we will see you up with the big club sometime during the season. We wuill miss Gordon if he is claimed, but that is what happens when you build organizational depth...sometimes you will lose a good player.

Posted by: boomer44 | October 5, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Jeets - here's what I can tell you. As far as I've heard it's been quiet but the ground work is there. It's extremely similar to the Chimmer/Clark deal last yr. It was almost done prior to the season then it took 1 phone call. While I can't confirm there have been recent conversations I can tell you that the ground work is there and it wouldn't take much.

Don't dismiss my previous statement about and "agreement" between GMGM & Flash.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 5, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

sooo, essentially this is our roster (barring any trades) for opening night:

Note; lines are based on educated guesses back on games and training camp, not set in stone!

FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Tomas Fleischmann ($2.600m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
Jason Chimera ($1.875m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m) / Eric Fehr ($2.200m)
Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / Boyd Gordon ($0.800m) / Matt Hendricks ($0.575m)
D.J. King ($0.637m) / Dave Steckel ($1.100m)

DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Jeff Schultz ($2.750m)
Tom Poti ($3.500m) / John Erskine ($1.250m)
John Carlson ($0.845m) / Karl Alzner ($1.675m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Semyon Varlamov ($0.821m) /Michal Neuvirth ($0.821m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $56,406,796; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,993,204

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 5, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

You know, the Caps talk about depth and options and youth being served. Yet, last year we had to bring in B. Morisson to fill a gap at center, and again this year we grab Hendricks vs. filling with Perrault and others.

We also watched Borque go overseas, Aucoin down again, and Giroux head to Edmonton.

I didn't see any preseason, so I'm assuming Johannson was the better player or has more upside but I'm anxious to get a look. It would seem to me we have a glut of 3rd/4th line guys yet no true 2nd line center. Why not trade a couple of these prospects and a draft pick for a solid second line center? I mean - afterall - we have tonnes of depth right?

Posted by: Jaymagz | October 5, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone check out the underrated/overrated story on ESPN? They have Brooks Laich as one of the most underrated players in the league while Alexander Semin as one of the most overrated. Of course it is written by Burnside so you have to take it with a grain of salt.

Posted by: PhilR | October 5, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Kittypawz - But Cstanton saw a 15 second video clip of him in the develpmental league and said he wants MJ NOWHERE NEAR the NHL this whole YEAR! You mean there's more than meets the eye than a 15 second video clip?

Posted by: pokerfaceI208


And you saw none of Tim Kennedy but are still qualified to dismiss him as an NHL player based on the fact he was put on waivers. Good one.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Like MarJo going back to Sweden if he did not make the team had absolutely nothing to so with this decision.

Actually, according to Twitter today, McPhee says that's not true.

@SkyKerstein: McPhee says MJ90 didn’t personally have the option to go Sweden, it would’ve been the Caps decision where he went either Her or Sweden

Apparently the SEL / NHL transfer agreement states this: Players under 22 who haven’t been drafted in the first round may return to the Elitserien if they can’t make the NHL club roster.

Because MoJo was a first-round pick, the option of where to send him is the team's, not his.

(s/t JR for the info)

Also, re: the statement - yup, that's what I thought.

Posted by: kittypawz | October 5, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Also, the Sabres did not walk away fromthe arbtitrator's award, they bought out Tim Kennedy.

The Sabres were forced to accept the award by the rules of the CBA, but chose to buy out the contract for $333,333(buyout rules slightly different for these particular situations) to not play for the team rather than the $1M they could have paid to have him play.

Considering they had to pay a substitute at least $500k to replace Kennedy, it appears the Sabres did not want him too badly. Nor did the Rangers.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 5, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

MP= AHL

Nice player, I like him, but let's be serious...he's an AHL lifer..

Have fun with Aucoin and Giroux and A Gordon and Beagle.

Actually, I think MP will be the first call up when we rid Fleishman.

Posted by: SoaringCaps | October 5, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I can't prove it easily but maybe someone else who has been aware of this can back me up.

There was another notable waiver wire pickup involving the Islanders where someone went public over it. I'll have to dig it up.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse
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Well unfortunately I have your back in this. It's very true. As a matter of fact I know that certain GM's have contacted other GM's with a conversation like this..... "So Mr. GM, if say a player that was like "x" were on the waiver wire would that interest you at all"? You see my point.

So yes there is a bit of a "gentlemen's agreement" at the same time GM's are paid to improve their teams. Remember Burke and Lowe getting into it? That was nothing short of Lowe violating the "gentlemen's agreement" in signing RFA's to offer sheets. It's like you're in competition with them but if you screw 1 you screw them all and you don't want that. Trust is a big deal in the hockey world and if you violate that it's hard to get it back.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 5, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

If they are really going to let Flash sink or swim at 2C, my guess it that the experiment lasts less than 15 games before it's painfully apparent that he lacks roughly a zillion qualities to play that position.

I don't even care about face-offs. Can you see Flash working down low behind our net, playing with commitment and confidence in all 3 zones, battling defensively against physical opposing Cs, etc...

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 5, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

me as many barns as I've been in there is always 1 Cstanton so I've seen your type many times my friend. Seems your underwear gets a lil twisted when some of your comments come back to bite ya.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208

so you've been in many barns, that doesn't come as a surprise to me.

And how has my comment on Tim Kennedy come back to bite me? Do you or do you not consider him an NHL player? (assuming of course you've even watched him play).

the funny thing about guys like you and sgm are you'll dismiss a player without knowing anything about him based strictly on some flawed principle
i.e. he's on current waivers which means he's not an NHL player.

HE PLAYED IN THE NHL JUST LAST SEASON. DOH!

but somehow at the age of 26 he's no longer an nhler despite the fact he had a good rookie season and his team wanted to bring him back but couldn't based on the salary award. And the fact that other nhl players have also passed thru waivers, some twice.

Einsteins.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

And you saw none of Tim Kennedy but are still qualified to dismiss him as an NHL player based on the fact he was put on waivers. Good one.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse
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Not true at all. I too in fact think he is ...... the kind of player that needs to be on a Cup winning team. That being said though, Buffalo BOUGHT HIM OUT! They are paying like 200k less to NOT have him play for them. They are paying him to NOT be there! Then he gets on with the Rags and they cut him? So now what?

Hey I like the guy but it doesn't look good for him at this point. My opinions aside.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 5, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Considering they had to pay a substitute at least $500k to replace Kennedy, it appears the Sabres did not want him too badly. Nor did the Rangers.

Posted by: sgm3 |


again, you're on record that Kennedy ISn'T an nhl player. Got it. I'll have to link upto this post when he finds his way back.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

They are paying him to NOT be there! Then he gets on with the Rags and they cut him? So now what?

Hey I like the guy but it doesn't look good for him at this point. My opinions aside.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208

Anaheim needed to create room on their roster and waived a player they actually thought highly of in CKunitz. Then Atlanta picked him, had no idea what they had in him, and he got waived by a horrible team. And promptly got picked back up by the Ducks. And now has two cups in 3 seasons.

good players get put on the wire for different reasons. It shouldn't devalue their potential as nhlers. SGM's snide declaration that Kennedy is not an NHL player shows very little in the way of thought processes.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

@kittypawz
>>Because MoJo was a first-round pick, the option of where to send him is the team's, not his.

I thought I've seen an item or two that MoJo's contract stipulates that he can go to Sweden rather than play in the AHL.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 5, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

If they are really going to let Flash sink or swim at 2C, my guess it that the experiment lasts less than 15 games before it's painfully apparent that he lacks roughly a zillion qualities to play that position.

I don't even care about face-offs. Can you see Flash working down low behind our net, playing with commitment and confidence in all 3 zones, battling defensively against physical opposing Cs, etc...

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 5, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse
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TMAC - I agree with you but that's what I was told.... kinda. The base of the "agreement" is there though. MJ has thoroughly surprised me and is ready for that spot NOW. My guess is that Flash will be moved eventually and we'll get some help on D. Now that help on D will depend on where we are in the season and how much leverage we have at that time.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 5, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm on the record for nothing. I agree with what pokerface just said.

"Hey I like the guy but it doesn't look good for him at this point. My opinions aside."

Judging from how teams have treated him this offseason, it is hard to say that he would absolutely help a team because, as of now, the 30 NHL teams apparently do not believe so.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 5, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

@Jaymagz: It would seem to me we have a glut of 3rd/4th line guys yet no true 2nd line center.

I think they're looking at MoJo for that. If McPhee truly thinks MoJo's ahead of where Backstrom was when he entered the NHL, then the sky's the limit on that one.

Why not trade a couple of these prospects and a draft pick for a solid second line center?

We could have all the depth in the world, but all trades require a partner. Who's selling? Second-line centers don't grow on trees, you know. Who specifically are you targeting, and what would you give in return? Is it something that team needs? Trades aren't as simple as they look. Plus, see above. I think they're looking to MoJo for that.

@cstanton1, @pokerface1208:

And you saw none of Tim Kennedy but are still qualified to dismiss him as an NHL player based on the fact he was put on waivers. Good one.

Don't make me turn this comment section around, boys. Stop attacking each other and support your own argument, please.

No, 15-second video clips are not enough to judge any player on, and if you're judging based solely on that, then your mind is already made up before you ever saw it.

That said - there are some pretty decent NHL players on the waiver wire this year. Welcome to the salary cap era - the guys in the middle are getting squeezed out by a few mammoth contracts. It's a reality.

Now ... Tim Kennedy. 2 assists and an even +/- in four games in the pre-season. He's a LW, a position at which the Caps are pretty deep. Last season he was 10/16/26, -3 in 78 games in BUF. According to last season's TOI, he doesn't PK or spend much time on the PP (averaging less than 3 seconds / game on the PK and about 38 seconds on the PP). He averages about 12 minutes a night. What in the name of God do we need a guy like that for? Is he an NHL player? Probably. On this team, with all the bottom-6 forwards, he'd be redundant.

Posted by: kittypawz | October 5, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

@RedLitYogi: I'd heard that as well, but the text of the transfer agreement gives the lie to that. Interesting. Not sure what to think. In the end, I think it's moot. The tale of the tape is really clear - MoJo won.

Posted by: kittypawz | October 5, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

@kittypawz
>>that said - there are some pretty decent NHL players on the waiver wire this year. Welcome to the salary cap era - the guys in the middle are getting squeezed out by a few mammoth contracts. It's a reality.

exactly (said so myself, actually, in another post). Those guys ARE good enough but their contracts are squeezing them out.

Wonder who this Ritola is?

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 5, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

So yes there is a bit of a "gentlemen's agreement" at the same time GM's are paid to improve their teams.
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yep, that's the phrase i was looking for. There exists a gentleman's agreement between most GMs in this league that extends to waiver wire pickups. Before they go pick up a player, they already know if it will be frowned upon or accepted easily by the other team. And if they choose to pick up a player they think will upset another GM, they do it knowing they may pay a future cost down the road.

This goes back as far as I can remember. The Caps picked up Nick Kypreos from the Flyers after watching the way he competed in a scrimmage game against them. And Bobby Clarke wasn't too happy about it. Sometimes you go get a player and it will tick off the other GM a little. Sometimes a lot. And sometimes not at all. But before you make that pickup, you have a generally good idea of how it will affect the other team. Either via direct contact or some other means.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Ugh I hate the posting glitches on here, have to re-type...lame.

@kittypawz

I take per-season stats with a grain of salt. Line ups are tweaked, players on the line up might not be roster worthy players but more of the "one last look" types.

What I saw from Flash in the pre-season is the same typical Flash. Skates around (forward of course and appears to not have drive), plays no D, doesnt crash and dig, gets bumped off the puck easy even though he bulked up. And I def do not see this chemistry you speak of between Semin and Flash. They almost come off as awkward with each other.

MP seemed to give it his all 100% of the time, he digs for pucks, makes plays, drives to the net and skates hard. Yes he gets knocked off the puck pretty easily too, but at least he gets up and tries to rebound (Flash has almost a mopey pick myself up off the ice approach).

Given the current players available in our system, I would much rather see:

Semin-MJ-Fehr
Chimmy-MP-Laich

Fehr and Laich could be swapped, but I think with more minutes Fehr will put up greater numbers in the long run and end up gelling nicely with Semin. Especially as a knock in loose puts/take passes at the back door type.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 5, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

good players get put on the wire for different reasons. It shouldn't devalue their potential as nhlers. SGM's snide declaration that Kennedy is not an NHL player shows very little in the way of thought processes.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse
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And I think you lumped me in with his "laughter" and I wasn't laughing so to say. I wasn't on board with him from a standpoint of he isn't a NHL player, I was with him for the simple fact that he's now been walked away from and put on waivers. So it was more of a black/white thing with me. Like I said I like the guy and think players like him should have a spot in the NHL but trust me I've seen, played with and ref'd many a player who had all the tools and for whatever reason didn't stick. That's why I'm a ref! LMAO! You know what refs are don't ya? Frustrated players that can't make it! LMAO! I keep thinking of this kid from Colorado. Man you talk about having all the tools! He was HUGE for being 17, soft hands and just a bomb for a shot. He got drafted by Toronto and never got a sniff. You'll have to trust me, he had the skills but for some reason it didn't work out. I've ref'd guys at DU and seen many a player come into there from all over the nation and been like who's got him and been told he's undrafted! Unfortunatley Kennedy may be one of those guys. You'd think after being around a bit and playing a yr in the league he'd find a home but the reality is he may not.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 5, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You know what? Guerin is still available for most likely very cheap......how about waiving BGordon or Steckel and signing him? That would make me feel much better about the possible loss of AGordon.

Thoughts?

Posted by: PhilR | October 5, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm on the record for nothing.

--sgm-----

that's pretty much your entire story. You go on record for nothing. And you expect others to go on record for what they say. You're a chickens---

Btw, this is what YOU said. So as far as I'm concerned, YOU ARE ON RECORD whether you choose to shy away from your own comments or not

"Tim Kennedy was waived. Now he has been waived by two teams this off-season. I thought he was a guaranteed NHL player. Guess not."

Posted by: sgm3 | October 5, 2010 1:46 PM

I guess we'll have to wait and see how wrong you are.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

And I think you lumped me in with his "laughter" and I wasn't laughing so to say. I wasn't on board with him from a standpoint of he isn't a NHL player,

----poker--

you did issue quite a guffaw though! LMAO usually implies laughter. But ok, I'll separate you out from SGM then. He's the one on record as saying Tim Kennedy is not an nhl player.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Guerin makes no sense. Maybe if Knuble wasn't here but as is, where would he play?

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 5, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Sorry kittypawz I'll go back to being sick now and lay down! :(

BTW, your team sucks! Just kiddin! Mine actually is the worst I've ever drafted! LOL! I think for the 1st time in my life Captain Morgans lead me astray! Oh well it was fun! It's difficult running that thing when you've got people calling picks in and texting em all the while trying to draft my own team, eat wings I just made and keep a fresh glass of Capt & Coke full. So stressful! LMAO

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 5, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Yes, a guaranteed NHL player does not get bought out and waived in the same offseason.

Just because he isn't a guaranteed NHL player doesn't mean he won't become an NHL player. But it is also possible that he may not become much of a player at all.

All I said was that Tim Kennedy is not a guaranteed NHL player. From what happened to him this offseason, it is hard to argue with that.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 5, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

@Phil

Guerin's on his last legs. I've seen too many of those kinds pass thru here. I love what he's brought to the nhl over the yrs but I think we can do better than Guerin if we're just looking for that strong veteran presence. May as well just get Gary Roberts out of retirement :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

All I said was that Tim Kennedy is not a guaranteed NHL player. From what happened to him this offseason, it is hard to argue with that.

Posted by: sgm3

answer honestly. Have you watched him play at all ? And don't tell me you watched him in 73 different games either.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Guerin makes no sense. Maybe if Knuble wasn't here but as is, where would he play?

Posted by: tmac2yao


To me it makes as much sense as carrying two 4th line centers! He could play 3rd line minutes just like AGordon could have. Flash is just in the way to me........lines could be Semin/MaJo/Fehr and Chimera/Laich/Guerin with 4th line of King/steckel or Gordon/Brads.

Posted by: PhilR | October 5, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

@Phil

Guerin's on his last legs. I've seen too many of those kinds pass thru here. I love what he's brought to the nhl over the yrs but I think we can do better than Guerin if we're just looking for that strong veteran presence. May as well just get Gary Roberts out of retirement :)

Posted by: cstanton1


I think he has enough gas in the tank to play 3rd line minutes for one year. And with the glut of 3rd/4th liners he could take quite a few nights off.

Posted by: PhilR | October 5, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

My statement is simple. It is just "that Tim Kennedy is not a guaranteed NHL player. From what happened to him this offseason, it is hard to argue with that."

That's it. That was the only point I was making. Very simple. If you disagree with it or whatever, then fine. I just made a simple comment. Quit turning everything into a big deal.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 5, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

What I saw from Flash in the pre-season is the same typical Flash. Skates around (forward of course and appears to not have drive), plays no D, doesnt crash and dig, gets bumped off the puck easy even though he bulked up. And I def do not see this chemistry you speak of between Semin and Flash. They almost come off as awkward with each other.

Hm. I thought they did just fine together. In last Sunday's game they were the only line that had anything going at all and just couldn't get it to go in.

Thing is, Matty P has many of the same problems - despite bulking up, he still gets bumped off the puck easy and doesn't play in his own end worth a darn. That he had the puck was because he was shifty enough to get it back, not that he never lost it (he did, a lot). Please understand, I like the guy a lot. I really do. But he didn't earn a roster spot and bringing him up will give this team less experience at that position, not more as so many have been clamoring for. I pulled the pre-season stat lines in a previous post for review, plus they're up at NHL.com.

If Flash is traded, then yes, I can see him replacing Flash as 2C. Do I think that it's a good idea to trade Flash just to bring him up? No. I think a lot of that is based in the fans' hatred of Flash and love for matty P. It's a purely emotional and illogical reaction.

As for Kennedy and last season's stats - why doesn't TOI tell you anything? He didn't PK last season and he didn't PK in the pre-season. The two stat lines looked consistent to me. That given, explain to me why you think Kennedy is an upgrade.

Don't change just to change - look for upgrades, and a change is not necessarily an upgrade. This one would be a pure waste of time.

Posted by: kittypawz | October 5, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I didn't see any preseason, so I'm assuming Johannson was the better player or has more upside but I'm anxious to get a look. It would seem to me we have a glut of 3rd/4th line guys yet no true 2nd line center. Why not trade a couple of these prospects and a draft pick for a solid second line center? I mean - afterall - we have tonnes of depth right?

Posted by: Jaymagz

I saw some of the preseason and my reaction to seeing Marcus Johansson was "this kid is going to be a player". I can't say that he played better than MP, but he was 3rd man high a lot and apparently this defensive awareness was the difference. IMHO he will be the 2nd line center at some point. I think he'll be comparable to Backstrom.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | October 5, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

My statement is simple. It is just "that Tim Kennedy is not a guaranteed NHL player. From what happened to him this offseason, it is hard to argue with that."

That's it. That was the only point I was making. Very simple. If you disagree with it or whatever, then fine. I just made a simple comment. Quit turning everything into a big deal.

Posted by: sgm3


i asked you a simple yes or no question, have you ever watched him play?

you chose not to answer. So you're obviously passing what amounts to a career judgment on a player you've never watched play hockey.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 5, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I have seen Tim Kennedy play, but that is inconsequential to the very simple point I made. That, From what happened to him this offseason, Tim Kennedy is not a guaranteed NHL player.

That's it. It's not a judgment on him as a player or whatever else is going on in your head.

It's a simple comment that if during an offseason, one team pays a player $333,333k to not play for them(instead of a salary of only $1M) and another team waives that same player, that the said player is not guaranteed to be an NHL player or guaranteed to help out an NHL team.

That's it. Quit making mountains out of molehills.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 5, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I have got it figured out...maybe...the two people who raise the blood pressure level of cstanton the most have one thing in common...sgm & gmgm...not sure if his favaorite dog was run over by a GM vehicle and that has left a horible imprint in the dark reaches of his brain...an extreme hate for anything to do with gm:)

Posted by: boomer44 | October 5, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

@kittypawz

I assume the Kennedy talk was for someone else as I wasnt discussing him. :)

As for MP, I dont love him...was just saying I would rather use him than Flash. And I saw your pre-season stats postings and already commented on them. Pre-season stats are pre-season stats (take em lightly).

The reason their line looked good out there was because of the play making abilities and skills of one of the guys and some help from another one of the guys...so bascially the work of 2 made all 3 look good. You're to guess who the odd man out was in my mind. ;)

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 5, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I cant agree at all with the decision not to keep Perreault with the big boys. Perreault does play decent defense. He aggressively goes and gets the loose puck all the time. He definitely provides more offense. Johansson just doesnt have the USA hockey game down yet. Will he in a season? Probably. I think Perreault is further along at this point.

Honestly they should find a way for both to be centers. Gordon or Steckle should scratch for one of them in the #3 or #4.

Posted by: theAnswerIs42 | October 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

i am shocked to see that BB used the word defense.

Posted by: doughless | October 5, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

@doughless - yeah I had to re-read that one myself.

Btw MJ and MP, MJ simply has much more upside, plus he's already defensively stronger - and it's not like we've had a glut of defensively responsible forwards the last couple years. I like MP but I think he gets knocked off the puck too easily, especially on a line charged with stopping the other team's best offensive line.

But I agree it didn't have to be between those two, they could both be here. I thus far have failed to envision the budding superstar in Mr. Steckel that BB somehow sees. Ditto B Gordon. Manchester does not = the big leagues, much as we might wish that were the case.

Posted by: govtimbo | October 5, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

@ BetterOffWithFedorov

I saw all the per season, went to the skates at kettler too. While I agree that MJ will be a player I don't think the right call was made, I with SeminAllOverTheIce on his 2nd and 3rd line combos.
"Semin-MJ-Fehr
Chimmy-MP-Laich
Fehr and Laich could be swapped...."
Someone please slap GMGM & BB and find a trade or something and get rid of FLUSH !!!!!!!!!

Shout out to Section 115

DROP THE PUCK !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bqts | October 6, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

@bqts - I like those 2nd and 3rd line combos; I haven't seen Laich on the off-wing much but I'm sure he could adjust, and I think he's a better 3L than 2L. And Fehr's lack of speed would be offset skating with MJ and Semin, plus he could finish all the chances those other two would be sure to create.

Posted by: govtimbo | October 6, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

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