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Green: 'I really wanted to be a part of that team'

While he's disappointed to have missed the cut for Team Canada, Caps defenseman Mike Green says he won't allow the letdown to derail him.

"I always feel like when things don't go well, or people have their own opinions of you, you strive to prove them wrong," Green told reporters at HP Pavillion. "I'll probably be that much better in the second half."

Click here to read the story. Tarik will check in later with the Caps' lineup against the San Jose Sharks.

By Lindsay Applebaum  |  December 30, 2009; 5:44 PM ET
 | Tags: Mike Green, Olympics  
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Go Shark hunting tonite Greenie!!!

GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: malujoker | December 30, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Play defense - might help!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | December 30, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised he wasn't put on the team. There's no shortage of offence so they really needed some strong defensive players to shut down other teams. Green is getting better but the Capitals very rarely show that they can keep other teams off the board. He's still a bit too risky for them.

Posted by: Stu_c | December 30, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

all west-coast defense corps seems suspiciously nepotistic of the all west-coast group of coaches that picked the team. Hope Sweden beats them.

Posted by: WhyGo | December 30, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Tough one for Greenie. I think he deserves to be there. The problem is that someone had to be the odd man out. I guess Stevie Y and his team didn't think that there will be a problem with defensive scoring, particularly on the PP. I will be cheering for Team Canada as I am from Canada but will be keeping a close eye on the PP. As a huge Caps fan, I would have loved to see him on the roster. Prove them wrong Greenie!!!

Posted by: bigschu8 | December 30, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like this disappointment is going to fuel Green which shows that he is maturing. My prediction, within two years Green will seriously solidify his defensive game and win the Norris.

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Interesting point by BB that the selection committee is primarily from Western Canada and they selected Western Canadians for their d corps. Also, I agree with the point previously made that the Canadian hockey establishment is very conservative, which hurt Green's chances.

Still, the logic is puzzling. No one seems to disagree that Green is the best offensive d-man available. The argument seems to be that his defensive deficiencies are so great that they outweigh the offensive upside. If that's true, shouldn't those deficiencies show up SOMEWHERE statistically? Certainly not in +/-. An obvious place where it should show up is in giveaways, and Green is high there. But others who were selected for the team are similar in giveaways, and considering how much Green handles the puck, it's surprising he doesn't have more turnovers.

Can anyone point to anything objective to support the notion that Green is terrible defensively (not just "I know hockey and he stinks")?

Posted by: zmega | December 30, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Green took the wrong approach when trying to make the team. He admitted that he was less willing to take chances because he was trying to make the olympic team.

he should have taken the opposite approach and tried to put up Coffey-like numbers that just couldn't be ignored.

Posted by: joek443 | December 30, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Play defense - might help!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | December 30, 2009 6:00 PM

Doofus Brigade, George Company.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 30, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

@zmega

To me, +/- is the most telling stat for a defenseman. Do you allow even-strength goals, yes or no? Obviously, it's not a perfect stat, since most defensemen don't score a lot, but a combination of +/- and points gives you a pretty good picture of what's happening while that defenseman is on the ice.

@ FLDave

I take your point about Gretzky, but I think he's an exception to the rule. Most Canadians preach conservative play, and most play that way. I think Yzerman looks at Green like my grandparents looked at Elvis. "Yeah, yeah, I see he can carry a tune and play guitar, but I just don't know...."

Posted by: EricCarr | December 30, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Bobby Orr, Paul Coffey, Ray Bourque, Larry Murphy and Al MacInnis are all Canadians the last time I checked.

Posted by: joek443 | December 30, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

feel bad for Green...but honestly, it doesnt matter...russia will roll through the entire group. no chance for anyone else. Team USA is a joke. Canada will not get a medal. Its better for green to rest up and show the Canadians that they were wrong.

Go Caps!!!

Posted by: arty2000us | December 30, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

@EricCarr

I used Gretzky as an example, there are flashy rushing D men that could play D as well that were/are admired. Fact is Green is 24 and has not developed a well rounded game. Offensively he is WAY above the learning curve, but defensively he has a way to go.

I can't pin the blame entirely on Green. He plays on a high octane offensive team and BB encourages him to join the rush. As a result he gets caught up ice and out of position much too often. Team Canada has a strong forward group and I believe they were simply looking for anchor type D men to support them.

@zmega

Dang you! I was going to use the 'I know hockey and he stinks' reasoning! Thanks for ruining that for me...

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

there's always nhl 10, mike

Posted by: gocaps01 | December 30, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I know Greenie's disappointed, but as a Caps fan, I'm selfishly glad that he'll be fresher for the playoffs and, like IRTR, that now I won't be conflicted at all about rooting against our northern neithboUrs in the Olympics.

I am SO ready for tonight's game. LET'S GO, CAPS!!!

@tominfl1 (from last thread)
mrwocoliz and I did indeed try your recipe for stolen grapefruit margaritas and found it to be quite delicious. I'll try the prickly pear variation after I get a new bottle of syrup--I'm looking forward to it--but tonight I'll defintely be rocking the white.

Posted by: wocoliz | December 30, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I have a bad feeling about tonight's game and I haven't said that all season.

I have a feeling those 4 Canadians on the Sharks roster will be playing with a lot of jump tonight.

While Green is saying the right things, I think he's devastated and I think that it will take a few games for him to deal with this, psychologically.

If anything, my concern is that he'll play over aggressively at both ends leading to more mistakes than usual.

I hope I'm wrong on both accounts. Please rub this in my face if the Caps kick some tail tonight and Green plays well over the next few games. I will be ashamed of myself and accept my crow graciously.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Green from Calgary? What's the point about the selection team being from Western Canada?

Get on the boat. The motorboat.

Posted by: CF11555 | December 30, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Another argument seems to be that Green is more likely than the selected d-men to make the big mistake that gives up the big goal. I'm not sure that argument stands up to the data, but let's assume that it is at least partly true. Isn't it also true that he is more likely than anyone else to make the great offensive play that leads to a key goal? This is where the conservatism comes into play IMO, giving greater weight to the big mistake than to the big, game winning play.

Posted by: zmega | December 30, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

That being said, if the Caps can pull this game out tonight, I will consider it the most impressive win of the season no matter how it comes about.

You can almost guarantee that Thornton, Marleau, Heatley and Boyle are going to feel like 20-year-old kids out there tonight and will be bringing their A++ games.

Again, I have a bad feeling about this game and I am hoping to be eating some crow in several hours.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao

Crow is much better than a hat with a side of ketchup...

I think the Caps will bounce back hard tonight after an embarassing loss to the Canes. My prediction... 5-3 Caps. And NO I will not agree to eating crow, hats, bugs, etc if I am wrong.

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Ahhhhh. Western Conference. Well, that's Babcock and Stevey Y. for ya.

I hate the Red Wings too. No medal for Canada.

Posted by: CF11555 | December 30, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I expect Green to be extremely disappointed. I know there were several occasions in my career when (I thought) an inferior person got picked over me for an assignment or a promotion. Looking back at one particular occasion, and it was a real joke that the person got picked and it ended up having to do with "favors." Anyway, if you feel you are entitled, and then you believe you were ripped off, you are angry as he!!. Point is, whenever this happened, I ended up leaving. And, to this day, almost 30 years later in one case, I have a list of those who can F themselves.

The good part about Green is it wasn't the Caps who did this to him. And, BB has the opportunity to say the right words to calm him down.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 30, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

This may be our toughest test of the season tonight.

The Sharks, already one of the best teams in the league, will probably play as good as, or better than, they've played all season long led by a seriously pumped up set of Canadians who just learned they made their Olympic team a few hours ago.

For those that subscribed to the theory that the trade affected the Caps adversely in the last game, the news those 4 Sharks received today will almost assuredly have the exact opposite effect on them.

Will the Caps rise up to this enormous challenge at the Shark Tank?

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

IF I WERE YOUNG, IMPETIOUS AND IN GREEN'S SKATES:

If I were him, it would go like this:

HNiC announcer: "So, Mike, I'm guessing you're very disappointed to have not made thee team."
MG: "Yes, for sure, I was very hopeful."
HNiC: "Some say you just weren't a good match. How would you respond to that?"
MG: "I was a Norris Finalist. Were there seven others from Canada?"
HNiC: "What about the possibility of being added later due to injury?"
MG: "Well, to be honest, I'm putting the Stanley Cup first and foremost at this point. I'm going to get myself rested up for the Playoffs."
HNiC: "So, you won't be in Vancouver?"
MG: "Oh, he!! no. I'm going to the Caribbean on vacation. Already got my tickets."
HNiC: "But what if Steve Yzerman comes calling at the last minute?"
MG: "I can't plan my life on 'What if?', you know?"

That's how I'd do it, with a chip on my shoulder, because I hold a grudge. Not everyone does. Many don't. I do. Maybe Mike doesn't. My impression though is he's hurt.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 30, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I'm with you. I don't think he's just hurt, I think he's devastated and will be playing somewhere outside of his norm for a few games.

That could be a good thing or a bad thing. Let's hope for the former.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Yzerman etc... know what they're doing and what they are looking for in putting together team Canada. While I would love to have seen Green Make the cut, I don't see it being too big of a slap in the face considering the pool of talent out there. Hey, even Jay Bouwmeester missed out, and he was practically worshipped in the off-season by many fans here. Disappointing? Yes, but Green will be fine.

Posted by: gonchpup | December 30, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

2mac2yao

YAWN seriously, you sound like Miss Cleo a two bit nobody on the psychic hotline. I'm sure the sharks Canadians are excited, I'm sure Green is disappointed - BIG WHOOP it has nothing to do with tonight's hockey game and who's going to have more jump than the other. Ovie, Backstrom, Semin, Fleishmann are Olympians, don't they get to have any jump? Why is it only the San Jose players? Crap like that is SO DUMB! It's two very good hockey teams playing one stinking game in December. Don't make it out to be more than it is.

Posted by: Terpsrule | December 30, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Caps 5-1. I've got a good feeling about this one.

Course, I had a bad feeling about the Carolina game. Maybe that was my one moment in touch with the force.

Posted by: EricCarr | December 30, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

@EricCarr

I hope your touch with the force is in effect today as well.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Are we sure the Russians can't borrow Mikhail Davidovich Zelenkov for this Olympic tournament for this year?

Yes, MG should join Team Russian and change his name to the above for this Olympic series. He fits in better with the Russian guys than the Canadians this year.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for sharing, Terpsrule.

Only Fleischmann (the correct spelling of his name) got the news today while those 4 Canadians are playing in front of their home crowd.

I respect your opinion but I disagree. I expect the Sharks to be juiced tonight led by those 4 guys. I also expect Green to be impacted signficantly by this news. It could have a positive or negative effect but it will have some kind of effect.

Going forward, my advice would be to chill with your choice of words for the betterment of this blog. It doesn't bother me much but in most cases, it leads to a bunch of childish yapping back and forth.

I've been following the Caps for nearly 30 years and like discussing the team with fellow Caps fans that don't repeatedly hurl insults around. Hopefully, you can be one of those kinds of fans.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"I have a bad feeling about tonight's game and I haven't said that all season."
Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 6:38 PM

Well, I have a particularly good feeling about tonight. My good feeling cancels your bad feeling. Now, please, cease with the negative vibes.

Posted by: Wiley_One1 | December 30, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I consider Boudreau to be a master, if not a genius, when it comes to motivating players.

I believe he will play a huge role in tonight's game, as much as he has in any game so far this young season.

If the Caps can withstand and overcome the Sharks' performance tonight, I will definitely believe that Boudreau was a big part of that achievement.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

@Terpsrule:

First of, they don't.

Second, who put the burr up your saddle, pilgrim?

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 30, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Terpsrule

Get a grip man...

No need to hurl insults at people based on their gut feelings. Also your "YAWN" is so 90's.... No offense, just saying.

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Now, please, cease with the negative vibes.


Posted by: Wiley_One1 | December 30, 2009 7:29 PM

Is this Donald Sutherland talking to Gavin MacLeod in "Kelly's Heroes?"

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 30, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

@Wiley_One1

Now, that is taking superstition a little overboard but I hear you. I don't usually say that kind of stuff. I just think tonight will be an unusually challenging game - even more challenging than it normally is to play the Sharks in the Shark Tank.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

@Wiley_One1

Yeah but if they lose will you eat a hat? The bar was raised on Monday, step up man!

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

tonight is not the right time to deliver one of those "win one for the Gipper" speeches...

BB should have those for the playoffs instead of an early regular season game against a WC team.

Posted by: joek443 | December 30, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

Gavin MacLeod the Love Boat Captain? That is a jinx for sure!

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

@tom - I would have a different response if Yzerman came calling -

"You can kiss my ____!"

Green probably is more mature than I am, however.

Posted by: zmega | December 30, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Just play your own game, Mike. Don't try to please everyone else.

If it is any consolation, Russia or Sweden will take gold. Russia has offense, Sweden has goal tending and defense. Canada will choke in front of the home crowd.

DC loves Mike Green. F*** Canada.

Posted by: washingtonpost31 | December 30, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

@joek443

I think Bruce uses motivational techniques on a daily basis.

I'll respectfully disagree with you. I think tonight is absolutely one of those games where Bruce will reach into his bag of tricks.

-Bruce knows those 4 Olympians on the Sharks will be juiced up after the news this morning. Yes, more juiced than under normal cicrumstances.

-He knows Green is bummed and he's bummed, too.

-We rarely play the Sharks. We play them even more rarely in their own building where we haven't won in nearly 2 decades. Bruce will downplay the signficance of such things but he loves ending bad streaks as much as he likes extending good ones. I believe he wants this win tonight as much as any so far this season. Yes, I do believe there are games coaches want more than others even though they won't admit it.

-We underperformed against the Canes the other night. He wants us to turn it around quickly.

-He wants to get this "the team is impacted by the trade" monkey off the minds of everybody, including the media. Yes, I think he cares about the team's image in the media even that seems superficial.

-We're an elite team. The Sharks are an elite team. This is a measuring stick game.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

zmega: Mine basically says kiss my a__ but isn't as direct. Now, Yzerman, I expect, figures all the alternates will just sit by their phones and wait to be called and then say, "Yes, sir, when do I report?"

FLDave: Yes, before Love Boat, Gavin MacLeod was on the Mary Tyler Moore Show. And, just before MTM, he made Kelly's Heroes with Clint Eastwood, Donal Sutherland, Telly Savalas and Don Rickles. Also, Carroll O'Conner was the general in that movie just before he got the role of Archie Bunker (and there are similarities).

I can't believe you would not have seen Kelly Heroes. Donald Sutherland was in charge of the tanks that Clint Eastwood recruited. His character was a 60's hippie put back into WWII. He was always doing "Woof, woof." And the Gavin MacLeod character was always foretelling doom and DS would say, "Quit with the negative vibes, man."

If you like being entertained with inane comedies, KH might be for you.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Anyhow, I'm out for now.

Big game tonight.

See you good folks later.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

If Green is the player I think he is, he will come out on fire tonight.

Posted by: zmega | December 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I've seen Kelly's Heroes, just don't recall the Love Boat Captain. I remember Southerland (a 1940's hippie type which was very out of place for the time period), Eastwood, Archie Bunker and even Don Rickles. For some reason I don't recall Gavin McCleoud.

Still I think the mere mention of a Love Boat character is a jinx. I change my prediction from 5-3 Caps to 8-1 Sharks. :)

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

@FLDave

"As an old fart fan I can tell you this... You have not suffered the way we have! :)"

I hear ya'. I really do. The more I learn about Caps history the more I understand the pain and frustration of being a loyal and longterm Caps fan. Indeed I feel a great deal of empathy because I still feel the frustration of that last series against the Pens. And tho' I realize that there are no guarantees to winning I feel wistful that we had to go through the Pens so early in the playoffs.

So I have enormous respect for fans who have been through the thick and thin with the Caps. And I have no patience for fans who belittle those of us who are of a more recent Caps fandom vintage. Fans of all vintages have to start somewhere.


Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 30, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao

From an earlier thread. I got busy/distracted at work and failed to say that I am sorry to hear about the loss of your father. From what you wrote he sounds like he was a good man, devoted father and fan of the Capitals. Excellent qaulities in my book and I believe you were blessed with an awesome father.

I am trying to bring my boys (9 and 14) up as Capitals fans. So far so good, but they both seem to prefer MMA (probably because I can train them in MMA at home and ice is limited here). I'll keep working on them.

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin catches Boyle with his head down = Green on Olympic team

Posted by: sailchef1 | December 30, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns

Indeed my friend! A Caps fan is a Caps fan in my book. I think my biggest downfall as a poster is I tend to think I know more about the game because I played for several years. On that theory alone I am proven wrong because I firmly believe Howard Cossell knew more about boxing than 99% of the population (including boxers) and I don't believe he was ever involved in a fight.

Good, decent, horrible, I have remained a Caps fan. I was a big McPhee hater and I am glad I did not offer to eat a hat with ketchup during the Caps fire sale. McPhee has put togehter a great organization and positioned this team for many years of greatness. I believe we are now on the cusp of a possible dynasty.

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

sailchef1

Injuries can mount up, Green will not get the call. As I stated in earlier threads Green was never seriously considered.

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

@sailchef - I have to admit I laughed when I read your post, but I think the result would be Bouwmeester on the team.

Posted by: zmega | December 30, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Gavin McLeod was the mechanic on the tank. He kept giving the "Bad Vibes" all the time.

Posted by: nimrodrsp | December 30, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

@FLDave

I agree--we ARE on the cusp of greatness. My hockey knowledge is growing but I have never been shy with my opinions even as I absorb analysis by others. IMO this is a key year for the Caps but by no means do I feel that it is the only season that we can contend for the Cup. The team so far has been improving their game on all fronts, including Green's defensive side of his game (ironic tone in my "voice" given the thread). I am definitely lucky to be a fan in this post lockout era.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I was just reading attendance figures for this season and noticed that the Caps rank 25th for road game attendance. I would have thought that they would draw well on the road. They haven't played a ton of games against southeast division teams. Any guesses as to why they are ranked so low on the road?

Posted by: capsfan5 | December 30, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I've got no burr in my saddle, it's just silly reading about all these "bad feelings." It's one stinking game in December, it means nothing in the grand scheme of things. People make way too much out of inconsequential things.

I am sorry for Green, but I'm happy he's not going to play in the Olympics, it will put a chip on his shoulder and keep him rested for the playoffs. He's only 24 he'll have plenty of other chances

Posted by: Terpsrule | December 30, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

@FLDave & TominFla

That's a jinx I never knew about -- mentioning "Love Boat" characters. Never knew there was a correlation between mentioning LB characters and the Caps' performance.

Of course, there's one jinx I know pretty well. I have never seen the Caps win when they played "The Hockey Song" at the game.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm hoping green comes out and releases all his aggression on the ice. Hopefully BB will be able to focus their energy.

Tom- I'm rocking a Flying Dog IPA, really good beer brewed in MD.

Posted by: mrszilla | December 30, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Yzerman was brutally honest in evaluating Green.

"We recognize a great talent, but we just feel that he's not quite complete yet in the defensive part of his game," Yzerman said. "Last year's playoffs left an impression upon us. He's a tremendous player and he's going to be great for years to come, but we felt we need to see him play in a lot of playoff games and play well, excel in pressure situations and be responsible in both ends of the rink to put him on the team. With the group we have, they can provide offense and they're good in both ends of the rink. We needed to see more of that from Mike."

Posted by: keeef | December 30, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Yzerman was brutally honest in evaluating Green.

"We recognize a great talent, but we just feel that he's not quite complete yet in the defensive part of his game," Yzerman said. "Last year's playoffs left an impression upon us. He's a tremendous player and he's going to be great for years to come, but we felt we need to see him play in a lot of playoff games and play well, excel in pressure situations and be responsible in both ends of the rink to put him on the team. With the group we have, they can provide offense and they're good in both ends of the rink. We needed to see more of that from Mike."

I appreciate Yzerman's perspective, but to use last year's playoffs against Green is completely unfair. He was sick (had mono, dangerously low iron and a separated shoulder) If they want to question the fact that he was on the ice at all, they can take that up with the coaches, why isolate Green's performance to just the playoffs? What about what he did all year, what about what he did against the Flyers in the playoffs? What about what he's done this year. It's just short sighted and disingenuous when it's clear Yzerman wanted players from the West that he was familiar with.

Posted by: Terpsrule | December 30, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

Is that The Good Old Hockey Game song? If so that's a double jinx just by merely mentioning that horrible song!!!

The Gary Glitter (child molester) song could possibly be worse. Possibly.

The Caps are doomed tonight thanks to CapsFan75!!!

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Total BS Stevie Y. There are several guys on your team who are not proven in playoff situations.

Posted by: zmega | December 30, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

@FLDave

Mentioning the song doesn't count as a jinx. Playing it at Verizon Center does. Since we're not at VC, no jinx there.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

@Capsfan5

Road games in Atlanta, Tampa, etc. hurt. So do games in Newark and Long Island, where they don't sell out.

I think that stat is a product of their division, mostly.

Posted by: EricCarr | December 30, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

A Sharks fan mentioned on Japers that they were not happy with the Chimera deal as Chimera is known to be a Sharks' killer.

May that trend continue tonight.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Terpsrule

The playoff are a high pressure environment. That is the best place to evaluate talent and how they respond to pressure. Mono, stalker girl friend, bruised shoulder, etc does not count when performance and reliablity are key.

Bottom line. I love Green but to become a complete player he has a ways to go. He will get there in style!

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

The good news... the Pens lost 2 - 0 to the Devils. The bad news... the Flyers won 6 - 0 over the Rangers. Glad to see the Rags and Avery lose, but also like seeing the Flyers fans squirm. I think this might be 5 in a row for them.

Posted by: gonchpup | December 30, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Which of the Olympic D men would you take in a straight up trade for Green? Only Niedermayer - if he were 10 years younger.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | December 30, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

Pulling the venue card huh? Clever! Ok... Jinx is off.

Posted by: FLDave | December 30, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

@EricCarr

Your analysis of the road attendance sounds logical. The Caps were going against teams with poor road attendance in general.

I don't understand why the Devils don't draw well -- their team is awesome and is almost always in contention.

Congrats to the Devils for winning tonight (2-0). Yes, you wonder if I lost my mind, as a Caps fan. Well, they were playing the Pens and I root for ANY other team against the Pens.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

being that they allready have enough offense in all 4 lines,i dont see the logic in having a offensive d-man.they were probably looking for the best defensive d-man and that is not what mike green is so i see the logic in not having him on the team.though i will bet that next olympics greenie will be on the team and contender for norris trophy.given another year or two tightening up his defense skills.good luck green maybe next time.GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 30, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I should also say, Dan Boyle? give me a break.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | December 30, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup

Agree with you about the results of the Pens-NJ contest and Flyers-NYR contest.

You're like me, a dyed in the wool Pens hater, obviously and will root for anyone against them. (Rooting for NJ at the present time is proof of that.)

On the Flyers, I guess by the law of averages, they were due to play well. They have too much talent to be a bottom feeder. I'm still no fan of them or of the Rangers.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

@FLDave

Thanks for calling off the jinx. Venue does matter.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 30, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

AN OPEN LETTER TO STEVE YZERMAN:

Mr. Yzerman:

I respect your opinion. Surely you've forgotten far more hockey than I'll ever know. But, what have Keith and Seabrook ever done in the playoffs?

Nothing, according to the record, more than Mike Green.

None of the three has ever won the Cup; nor the Conn Smythe; nor played in the Finals.

If you're going to judge someone based on a two-week period when that individual was sick and injured, and still giving it his best, well, good luck in your Olympics.

Until Canadian Olympic Committee leadership becomes more objective in its explanations for player selection, I myself will refrain from watching any international games in which Canada participates.

Yours,
tominfl1

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 30, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Love Mike during the regular season but he hasn't shown that he perform under real pressure. He was a huge liability during the playoffs last year. That probably sunk his chances no matter what he did this year.

Posted by: navboss | December 30, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Love Mike during the regular season but he hasn't shown that he perform under real pressure. He was a huge liability during the playoffs last year. That probably sunk his chances no matter what he did this year.

Posted by: navboss | December 30, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Terpsrule

The playoff are a high pressure environment. That is the best place to evaluate talent and how they respond to pressure. Mono, stalker girl friend, bruised shoulder, etc does not count when performance and reliablity are key.

Bottom line. I love Green but to become a complete player he has a ways to go. He will get there in style!

Posted by: FLDave |

I agree overall, but it's disingenous of Yzerman to use that as a knock against Green when the other defensemen haven't shown anything in playoffs either. The players were clearly chosen because of their affiliations with Western League teams, using a 2 week period against a sick and injured player when he A) was a beast in the playoffs against the Flyers the year previous as well as an integral player in Hershey's Calder Cup win in 06 is disingenuous. They're just using it as an excuse, and a pretty thin one at that.

Posted by: Terpsrule | December 30, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Was that my man Tom P. out of position, forcing Laing to take the hooking penalty and then twice failing to clear the zone on the PK?

Posted by: zmega | December 30, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who watched the San Jose game knows full well that Green didn't deserve to be on Team Canada -- he had a stupid breakdown that led to the first goal, and then the dumb, lazy penalty that led to the penalty shot. Dan Boyle played much more solid defense than Mike Green has ever shown. He should pay attention.

Posted by: Exile_in_Philly | December 31, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Green is asked to play an offensive role by the coach, which in the end kills his chances because team Cananda doesn't need additional offense... they are already stacked. Beyond that Green isn't defensively sound. It's cut and dry people. I'll give him this, Green has one of the best snap-shots from the point of anyone in the league.

Posted by: bonzaidrew | December 31, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Can any of us forget Greenie's playoffs of last year. HORRIBLE to say the least. dont want to hear about his mono and shoulder. all BS. He cost the Caps and it hurt him.

Posted by: phrdlick | December 31, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

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