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Boudreau: 'No sense in taking any chances' with injuries in preseason

Coach Bruce Boudreau this morning provided updates regarding the status of forward Tomas Fleischmann and defenseman Mike Green, both late scratches before last night's preseason game against Boston at Verizon Center, saying they could have played but were held out for precautionary reasons.

Green skated at KCI earlier today, but Fleischmann did not take part in the 40-minute session before the team went into meetings and then departed for Boston, where the Capitals play tonight.

As for goalie Semyon Varlamov, Boudreau declined to reveal the specific nature of the injury.

"He's got a little something, and it's nothing major or serious," Boudreau said of Varlamov. "You read around how many injuries are taking place in training camp, and we still got 31 guys. There's just no sense in taking any chances. Anybody that has a little tweak, a little pain, a little ouch, we're just giving them maintenance days off."

Goalies Dany Sabourin and Braden Holtby, whom the Caps recalled from Hershey this morning, got in some work in advance of tonight's game. Sabourin is scheduled to start, with Holtby also expected to receive playing time.

In an effort to provide rest for selected players, Boudreau has been experimenting with different line combinations during the preseason, and that will continue tonight at TD Garden. Among the pairings Boudreau said he would try out include Marcus Johansson, normally a center, at left wing with Swedish countryman Nicklas Backstrom at center.

Boudreau also will move Boyd Gordon back to center for tonight's game and play David Steckel on the wing, giving Gordon needed opportunities to take faceoffs. In last night's 3-2 victory over the Bruins, Steckel played center, with Gordon on the wing.

"The major concern, when you've got six centers or seven centers still left in camp doing well, is to make sure you give every one of them a chance to play at their natural position," Boudreau said.

Katie is headed to Boston and will have updates before faceoff on the line combinations.

By Gene Wang  | September 29, 2010; 12:10 PM ET
Categories:  Boyd Gordon, David Steckel, Mike Green, Semyon Varlamov, Tomas Fleischmann  
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Comments

Varly hurt again, really? Yeah he's shown flashes but no durability. Neuvy has to have the inside edge and don't say he has no experience, look at his AHL body of work. Solid.

Posted by: flee001 | September 29, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Flash/Varly/Steckel/Chimera for Regehr/Kiprusoff

1st would you take this trade and second could it fit under the cap? Discuss.

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting when we had the recent Varly vs. Neuvy debate here, very little was said about Varlamov's health problems. It's beginning to look more and more like it will be impossible to evaluate Varlamov without factoring in that we will always be either injured or trying to play his way back into shape following an injury. How can he ever be a true #1 goalie if the team can't count on him to be healthy? And as far as the recent talk here about trading Varly, how could he have any significant trade value given his injury history?

Posted by: zmega | September 29, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Everyone hung over from last night? Man, it's quiet in here today!

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 11:53 AM

Nailed it. Apparently Im in preseason form as well. Chopp't sandwich wraps do NOTHING to absorb alcohol. Not to mention, rum n cokes, followed by 24 oz beers, followed by post game rum n cokes = bad idea.

Weird, none of these posts were here until I posted something.....and I have been hitting refresh for over an hour now. This is a strange site.

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 11:55 AM

Happens to me a lot when there is a new story being posted. Looks like that may be your culprit.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | September 29, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to get carried away with all this trade speculation vis a vis "little tweaks and minor injuries." I just can't see any rational reason for Varlamov to get traded, so I'm not buying that for the moment. As for Flash, I see lots of rational reasons. But to give this whole "suspicious injury" thing substance, I need to hear from somebody who saw Flash's last practice. Did he skate hard? Did he bump into anybody? Did his skate hit a rut? Until I hear some sort of actual evidence, I'm not going to get carried away with trade talk just because I want it so bad...

Posted by: struggler | September 29, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

why even play steck on the wing? he'll just look awful. you may as well play him on D or in goal.

stupid exercise in futility. BB is better off using another player on the wing to get a look at one of the rookies or something.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice the new caps video girl? not too shabby but not as good as Michelle was

Posted by: _stevo | September 29, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

@struggler

I didn't see Flash's last practice. But he did practice yesterday morning with Ovi and Knuble. Was scheduled to play and then all of the sudden after the skate was over they chaged it. No reporters noticed anything or if they did haven't said anything.

Posted by: ThePat | September 29, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if it is me but the way he keeps saying "he has a little something" and not "feeling 100%" makes it sound more like he is sick as opposed to hurt. Maybe that is just me wishing for the best since if he was just sick you would think they would just come out and say so.

Posted by: icehammer97 | September 29, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

dumb...just dumb.

I really hate the way everything is so secretive (every team, not just the caps).

What is wrong with these guys. You don't send a player home for "a few days" if there is nothing seriously wrong?

Varley is fighting for a spot...so is Flash...these guys need to fight through this stuff...or don't play!

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

BTW, as a non-Semin-hater, even the hate28s have to admit he was superb last night. Swear to the big spaghetti pie that kid could be the best player in the league if he had Ovechkin's metabolism/heart. I'd def rather have him that Kovy. (Maybe the Kovalchuk contract has him excited?)

Posted by: RedLitYogi | September 29, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Both Aucoin and Joudrey cleared waivers for anyone that wanted to know.

Posted by: ThePat | September 29, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Semin superb last night? a little hyperbole?

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

@PhilR

Kiprasoff is a little pricey for a goalie these days but I don't think Calgary bites on that trade. (Why would they want to take Steckel's contract??) Regerhe seems to be out of favor up there, although at his best (during their finals run) he seemed pretty good.

What do you think it would take to pry Shea Webber loose from Nashville? A pick, a goalie + Flash or Fehr and prospects?

Posted by: RedLitYogi | September 29, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

i thought line 3 skated the most consistently of all of the lines last night. also, for a small guy, MP85 plays with a lot of tenacity, even against much bigger guys. if semin played the same, he may be the best in the league. unfortunately, the guy has no heart.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Sure semin was great last night...the game didn't matter and he didn't need to backcheck, so he didn't.

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion Calgary needs to make a move. They don't have cap trouble with Langkow and Stajan heading to LTIR but they do have a problem at the Center position now. Jokinen also came out of the game last night due to a back strain.

Posted by: ThePat | September 29, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Semin is a beast and I stand by my statement. Most the haters hate him because he has a bad game from time to time and apparently thats enough to constantly call for him to be traded.

If he has a good year though, hopefully they will jump on the Semin train.

Btw, I nearly lost a mouthful of beer when Semin scored last night, with 46 seconds left in the period to grant a lucky winner free Lasik. The winner' last name...Koch. Please tell me others find the humor that Semin got Koch free eye surgery.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | September 29, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Flash/Varly/Steckel/Chimera for Regehr/Kiprusoff

1st would you take this trade and second could it fit under the cap? Discuss.

Posted by: PhilR
----
Phil, EXCELLENT attempt at a trade proposal but unfortunately this puts the Caps over by about 1.69 per year (without using the bonus cushion)

The cap hits:
Kiprusoff, 5,833,333 for 4 more years
Regehr, 4,020,000 for 3 more years
Total: 9,853,333 the next 3 years!

Flash, 2,600,000 for 1 year (likely higher next year)
Varlamov, 821,667 for 1 year (likely 1.5 mil for 2 years after)
Steckel, 1,100,000 for 3 years
Chimera, 1,875,000 for 2 years
TOTALS: 6,396,667

I also think that while Kiprusoff would be a great mentor to Neuvy, as well as his .920 save %age, he also plays on a Defense first team and his #'s are likely inflated a tad by that... His cap hit is too high for my comfort and we have a good situation with Neuvy and Varly in DC for

Regehr would be a good pickup and something like

Flash and Erskine and a pick
for
Regehr

...would be welcomed with open arms by me... Why?

-it gets Erskine.Sloan out of the top 6
-it opens up a forward roster spot for one of the cheaper younger players (MoJo, AGordon, Hendricks)
-it removes dealing with Flash as a UFA next off season (yes, I know the easy solution is to not resign him, but you could get something for him now)
-it solidifies the top 6 with no real shakey D (yes, also debateable)...

The roster would look like this:
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Mathieu Perreault ($0.716m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m)
Jason Chimera ($1.875m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m) / Eric Fehr ($2.200m)
Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / Boyd Gordon ($0.800m) / Andrew Gordon ($0.500m)
Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / D.J. King ($0.637m)

DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Jeff Schultz ($2.750m)
Tom Poti ($3.500m) / Robyn Regehr ($4.020m)
Karl Alzner ($1.675m) / John Carlson ($0.845m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Michal Neuvirth ($0.821m) /Semyon Varlamov ($0.821m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $57,218,463; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,181,537

Posted by: FrankM73 | September 29, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe detroit?

Osgood, Zetteberg and Lidstrom for Varley, Fleishman and a 7th round pick?


hahahaha...even I couldn't type that without laughing...

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

@SoaringCaps. Fighting for a spot? Varly is on the team. Period, end of sentence. Even if you think Neuvy is fighting for the number one spot with him it is not something that is going to be decided in preseason. They will take the regular season to sort that out. As for Flash he is another player who is going to be on the team, unless he is traded, because they can't send him down. If he can work as a number 2 center remains to be seen but looking at him in that position against preseason lineups is not going to prove anything. Let whatever little injuries that players normally play through go away when these games mean nothing so they are not playing at 95% at the start of the season and are at risk for bigger injuries. And you want to know the reason why the team is not saying exactally what is wrong is becasue they don't want to say Flash has a left knee injury (just an example) and then see other teams go after that knee in his first game back.

Posted by: icehammer97 | September 29, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

RedLitYogi,

I believe Calgary is hurting for the center position and that is why I threw Stecks in there.....If he is too expensive maybe they would take Gordon off our hands. I was trying to think of a trade that would clear the logjam at the forward position.

Shea Webber.......hmmmmmmm, it would take every bit of one of the goalies, Fehr as I think most teams would rather have him than Flash, MP or Beagle and a pick. I really do not see him going anywhere for much less than that. Would that trade be worth it in the long run? That is a tough one to call.

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"Semin is a beast." snickering at that one.

the "haters" as I am being described don't like him because at a minimum he is an inconsistent wuss; at worse a disinterested, overpriced wuss.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

in case it wasn't mentioned...

both cleared waivers:
WAS - Keith Aucoin
WAS - Andrew Joudrey

per:
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=335661

Posted by: FrankM73 | September 29, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

What do you think it would take to pry Shea Webber loose from Nashville? A pick, a goalie + Flash or Fehr and prospects?

Posted by: RedLitYogi | September 29, 2010 12:42 PM

Probably an act of God. I haven't been on Nashville's boards too often, but from what I have read- he's the 2nd coming down there.

Posted by: Fro_2 | September 29, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

even for you less puglistic sorts, this is a must-read. Very interesting and at times somewhat disturbing inside look at an aspect of hockey that gets discussed here once in a while..

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=goons


"Welcome to the Syracuse Crunch," Mirasty says, "where even the water boys fight."

He's joking. Sort of. The Crunch are bound for the AHL playoffs, largely thanks to playing "heavy" -- hitting hard, talking trash, turning games into pain-endurance tests. Intimidating opponents, daring them to fight back. The ice becomes a schoolyard. Mirasty is the toughest kid in class. In a recent game against Grand Rapids, teammates tell me, Crunch captain Zenon Konopka issued an in-game challenge to the Griffins' bench.

Let's have a fight. One of yours against one of ours. Fair and square. Show us what you're made of.

The Griffins declined. And the Crunch muscled their way to a 5-2 victory.

"We win games before we even play," Konopka says. "People just want to get out of here with their bodies intact. With Jon, we feel physically invincible on ice. You see him fight, and it's kind of a warm feeling inside."

He pauses and notices my face is all scrunched up. "That's weird to say," he admits. "But it's true. When the team was bringing Jon in, they asked me what I thought. I said, 'Get a guy who likes fighting.' Ninety percent of fighters don't. Six percent do. Four percent love it. Jon loves it."

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

GMGM on NHLLive just said the team has no injuries. So basically those guys are sick or something is up. I'd bet they are sick.

Posted by: ThePat | September 29, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Ok...

1) Steckel will be fine.
2) Laich will be fine.

These guys have roles..and they fill them very well.

The guys that should be concerned is:

1) Fehr...he was signed to be an offensive threat, in which he isn't.

2) Fleishman...no need to say anything more

3) Gordon...a shorter less durable version of Steckel.

4) M Johannson...probably the BEST center, but a numbers game will keep Perrault here and him out.

5) Eakin...has another year of Juniors, so he will be up next year.

6) A Gordon...awesome AHL player (see Giroux and Aucoin and Bourque).

7) Sloan..because he IS really that terrible. (he still owes George a BIG thank you).

8) Erskine...there is no place for an old slow beat up defenseman. Only Chelios can survive that statement I just made and Erskine is NO Chelios.

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

And he followed that up by saying their could be some surprises as to who makes the final roster at the Forward position. Mentioned how well the 3 young Centers have played. No mention of Flash whatsoever.

Posted by: ThePat | September 29, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Thansk for breaking the cap hit down for me FrankM73......I am far from a capologist!

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

What do you think it would take to pry Shea Webber loose from Nashville? A pick, a goalie + Flash or Fehr and prospects?

Posted by: RedLitYogi


nothing would pry Shea Weber away short of something so ridiculous its probably not worth discussing imo

the guy is about as untouchable a player as there is in this league. You won't get Getzlaf from Anaheim and you won't get Weber from Nashville.

However, there is another player that I like a lot who plays the game like Shea Weber at least in the def zone. His name's Mike Weber. And he plays for Buffalo.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

the "haters" as I am being described don't like him because at a minimum he is an inconsistent wuss; at worse a disinterested, overpriced wuss.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 12:54 PM

Grain of salt my man, grain of salt.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | September 29, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

ok, for the sake of discussion. To get Shea Weber you'd have to give up John Carlson and Nicky Backstrom. That would be a trade Nashville would have to seriously consider. Forget Semin, forget the goalies, forget Fehr. Those are guys you use to pry away 2nd tier players, not obvious elite guys like Weber.

Weber is the heartnsoul of that team, one of the best captains in hockey, has many many more yrs left in him, is the best combo of toughness and skill on D in the league. And he manages to play tough without taking a lot of PIMs. Guys like him don't come around very often. I'd liken his leadership to a Scott Stevens.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

@ The Pat...

I can 100% confirm what George said about suprises...Boudreau has said (off the record) that the younger guys have looked much better than the "expected" to be on the roster guys....

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1,

What exactly did the Caps get for Scott Stevens again? Just sayin, rotten limo incident screwed us out of a couple Cups back in those days I think!

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

that's certainly part of why I don't like him.


speakin of weber, that 2003 draft was downright sick when it came to defensemen.

Suter, Seabrook, Coburn, MStuart, Phaneuf, Weber. That's just the first line of D. Then you had other guys like O'Byrne, Nickerson, Carle, Smaby, Quincey, Shane O'Brien.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

@The Pat...

God I miss being up there. Enjoy all of this rain coming your way.

MaJo needs to make this team just for some 2-way presence...he can learn from watching Backs alot more than playing in Hershey.

MP is great...alot of energy. I like Flash but too darn inconsistent.

Posted by: Iceman27 | September 29, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

didn't the Caps take Fehr over Getlaf

Posted by: pkme | September 29, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

not backstrom and carlson for weber...i bet it would just take backstrom

Posted by: _stevo | September 29, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@SoaringCaps

1) Not so sure Stecks is "fine."
2) Agreed.
1) Totally disagreed. Fehr was great last year, showing consistent improvement. BB has given him no significant audition on 2nd line.
2) Agreed.
3) Gordon: better than Stecks when healthy, but never healthy.
4) Despite the numbers game, I think management envision him as their eventual #2 and are secretly rooting for him to play as well as MP this preseason so that they can get him started. Toss up. #2 Center position could go either way.
5) Eakin: agreed, but only to the extent that he'll split time between Wash and Hersh.
6) Can't comment because haven't seen enough from him.
7) Terrible is a strong word. Agreed in the general sense that I am not a fan at all.
8) For all his faults, he is our only physical Dman. That makes him valuable as our 6th until GMGM makes a move that makes him expendable.

Posted by: struggler | September 29, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1,

What exactly did the Caps get for Scott Stevens again?

------

Witt and Gonchar.

Not enough my friend, not enough. IIRC it was Courtnall, Dino, Stevens, and Sheehy in the limo. 3 of those 4 guys were the bread and butter on our team along with Hunter. The only poser in the bunch was Sheehy. But yeah, we lost Courts, Dino, and Stevens after that incident. Tried to make it up a bit later by signing Dave Manson to an offer sheet but that didn't materialize. Some say by design, it was a PR move more than anything that ended up costing the Oilers more than they could afford to pay Manson and led to them breaking up a lot of their team who they jettisoned off to the Rangers.

So in retrospect - the limo incident contributed to the Rangers winning their Cup!

and ironically, the guy we tried to sign - Manson- to replace Stevens was also the guy who accused Stevens of gouging his eye in a fight that led to Stevens' only NHL suspension of his career. Those guys really hated each other. IIRC, Everett Sanipass speared Bengt Gustafsson at the end of a game and then Stevens got attacked by Troy Murray and Dave Manson. Manson later claimed Stevens gouged his eyes. Stevens denied this but got suspended anyway. I think around the same time Rick Tocchet got suspended for a clear eye-gouging incident where he got blown up in the neutral zone on a huge hit by young Isles dman Dean Chynoweth. Tocchet responded by sitting on Chynoweth and gouging the living daylights out of his eyes. Poor guy's legs were writhing around on the ice.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

@Struggler...

Good points...and well received.

Eakin will go back to Juniors. I do think he will start the year with the Caps...play 9 games and get sent back (unless he lights it up).

Erskine is not a very good #6...but I guess he's an All Star vs Sloan.

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

not backstrom and carlson for weber...i bet it would just take backstrom

Posted by: _stevo | September 29, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

i bet you're wrong.

Weber brings more to his team than Backstrom would. If Nashville had quality depth on defense and quality leadership, then I'd be inclined to think it would take just Backstrom to get Weber. But given their situation, losing Weber would be an enormous blow to that team. And you don't trade a #1 dman for a #1 center especially when you take into acct all the other intangibles that Weber brings. I doubt they would trade Weber 1 for 1 with Ana for Getzlaf. And he's got both the toughness and the talent of a #1 center although he's not quite as skilled as Backs is.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

That was exactly my point, the Caps got no where near fair market value for Steven's. I know the chances of history repeating itself are slim but let a poor man dream of Shea Weber in a Caps jersey for somewhat of a steal!

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

didn't the Caps take Fehr over Getlaf

Posted by: pkme

even worse, they took Fehr over Weber :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Fehr needs to stay healthy and be more a of a physical force to be a great thing for the caps.

honestly, I don't see him doing either..

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

I'm starting to think that it might mean that Steckel and/or BGordon may not make the team. They may be competing for a spot yesterday and this evening. Dropping one or both of them opens up 1 to 2 roster spaces. Just a guess.

Unless Flash is traded, he will be on the roster. His contract size basically dictates that.

Posted by: sgm3 | September 29, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Phil

Poile admitted it was the biggest mistake of his career. So at least he didn't try to justify it. Doubt if McPhee was in that situation he'd ever own up to the mistake.

all the newer caps fans here who never went thru that would have an aneursym if some team managed to sign Ovy to a contract and the Caps decided not to match.
That was fairly similar to the stress and tension I experienced when the Caps let Stevens walk.

in fact i'm still in recovery, and why I supported the Devils as my 2nd team for about 10 yrs.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Anyone doing fantasy hockey and need another person?

Posted by: Iceman27 | September 29, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

What do you think it would take to pry Shea Webber loose from Nashville?

Ovechkin

I don't think Flash would fetch a big named player. Maybe a guy like Chara if the Bs are out of the playoffs and they think he won't re-sign. Even then, the Caps would have to add. As mentioned on this board before, I would like Douglas Murray from San Jose. He's the nasty, physical Dman this team desperately needs. Too bad he's the nasty, physical Dman San Jose needs.

Posted by: ablake70 | September 29, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Lines:

Ovie/Backs/Knuble
Laich/Fleishman/Semin
Fehr/MPerrault/??
King/Steckel/Bradley


Who is competing for the third line? I know I'm forgetting someone.

Gordon, Hendricks, A Gordon

I just get the feeling Johannson will start in Hershey. I also get the feeling (like I have already said), Eakin will get sent back to Juniors (because he can)..but will start with the Caps.

This allows the caps to NOT make any "difficult" decisions an cut anyone.

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

dont forget they took fehr over mike richards, kesler, and corey perry too

Posted by: _stevo | September 29, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Fehr can't take the heat in the crease. he is going to have to strengthen and man up if he is going to have any long-term value for the Caps.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse


Who is competing for the third line? I know I'm forgetting someone
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he goes by the name of cha-cha chimmy choo choo

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dont forget they took fehr over mike richards, kesler, and corey perry too

Posted by: _stevo
------------------------

in hindsight, the two players I wanted us to take at that spot in the draft were Mark Stuart and Getzlaf. I didn't know about the other guys we missed out on.

The reason the Caps probably stayed away from Getzlaf is he played center and we already had Sutherby in the system who McPhee had projected as a 1st or 2nd line center. I wasn't surprised we stayed away from Mark Stuart since McPhee traditionally stays away from rugged defensive dmen who don't offer much in the way of offense.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

We are not getting Weber. So forget it. They just named him Captain and he is a perrenial all-star.

I would trade Green for him in a second. But serious offers only, that would be it.

Regarding Stevens...I think the NHL screwed the caps on that one...because when Stevens went to the Devils he was awarded to them by the NHL.

We didn't get crap from the NHL...wouldn't have Shannahan looked nice in a Caps uni?

But Stevens was caught in the Limo...he wanted out (as did Courtnall and Dino)...that Limo incident is what was the downfall of the Caps. What a rough years those were...glad I'm through that!

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Fehr can't take the heat in the crease. he is going to have to strengthen and man up if he is going to have any long-term value for the Caps.

Posted by: doughless

i think fehr can take the heat if he's not going against a tough defensive group. Like the Habs. I'd like to see how he fares against teams who don't tolerate his presence in the crease.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

my point is that i don't see a Knuble-like game coming from Fehr. And if that is the case, kiss that aspect of the Caps offense goodbye once Knubes hangs up the mitts. Brooksie can't fill Knubes skates, either.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

But Stevens was caught in the Limo...he wanted out (as did Courtnall and Dino)...that Limo incident is what was the downfall of the Caps. What a rough years those were...glad I'm through that!

Posted by: SoaringCaps

i used to go to that bar in GTown all the time too. It was called the 3rd Edition. We used to go see concerts at that one place, damn i can't remember the name now. But a real popular place to see shows. And then walk up to the 3rd Edition and get past the front door somehow and go all the way to the 2nd fl bar. Once you got past the front doorman (who was barely around), the bartender on the 2nd fl would always serve you without checking IDs. And that was the bar that the Caps partied in where they met those puckbunnies, one of em who was underage with a fake ID.

still thought it was bogus.

the one part of the incident i don't remember being covered very closely was what the roommate of the girl alleged that Neil Sheehy did to her. That he went back to their place and she woke up to find him standing over in the bed. I don't know if he raped her but i know that channel 4 ran that story the morning of.

Dino had a thigh high cast. So I doubt he did anything. Stevens was just in the limo, he had nothing to do with any of it but got dragged down.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

knowing what you know now - how would you rank the players from the 2003 draft?
gmgm wasn't the only one that 'passed' up on some of these guys - and there were a few gm's that did squat with the first round

1 Pittsburgh Marc-Andre Fleury G
2 Carolina Eric Staal C
3 Florida Nathan Horton C
4 Columbus Nikolai Zherdev R
5 Buffalo Thomas Vanek W
6 San Jose Milan Michalek L
7 Nashville Ryan Suter D
8 Atlanta Braydon Coburn D
9 Calgary Dion Phaneuf D
10 Mtl. Canadiens Andrei Kostitsyn R
11 Philadelphia Jeff Carter C
12 NY Rangers Hugh Jessiman R
13 Los Angeles Dustin Brown R
14 Chicago Brent Seabrook D
15 NY Islanders Robert Nilsson C
16 San Jose Steve Bernier R
17 New Jersey Zach Parise C
18 Washington Eric Fehr R
19 Anaheim Ryan Getzlaf C
20 Minnesota Brent Burns D
21 Boston Mark Stuart D
22 Edmonton Marc-Antoine Pouliot C
23 Vancouver Ryan Kesler C
24 Philadelphia Mike Richards C
25 Florida Anthony Stewart R
26 Los Angeles Brian Boyle C
27 Los Angeles Jeff Tambellini L
28 Anaheim Corey Perry R
29 Ottawa Patrick Eaves R
30 St. Louis Shawn Belle D

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | September 29, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

We are not getting Weber. So forget it. They just named him Captain and he is a perrenial all-star.

I would trade Green for him in a second. But serious offers only, that would be it.

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the sad part is, even if the Preds were dumb enough to do a Weber for Green swap, the Caps would probably hold out for more.
Another reason they may have a hard time dealing Flash. They'll hold out for too much.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

i played fantasy hockey last year in a CBS sports league. pretty good time. someone here should start a Caps fan league there. Leagues are 12 teams.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Cpat_Kirk_In_AZ

Hugh Jessiman is clearly the best player on that list.

Posted by: sgm3 | September 29, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

more from the 2003 draft that were passed over a couple of times

49 Nashville Shea Weber D
73 Pittsburgh Daniel Carcillo L
271 Mtl. Canadiens Jaroslav Halak G

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | September 29, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for breaking the cap hit down for me FrankM73......I am far from a capologist!

Posted by: PhilR
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no problem!
capgeek.com is everyone's friend... it's all there to add and remove players from other teams roster to the caps and see what fits...

Posted by: FrankM73 | September 29, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

cstanton...you and I are on the same page...and probably the same age...

The whole limo thing...those guys might not have done much...but they wanted out of washington to escape any further connection to the incident.

Posted by: SoaringCaps | September 29, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

knowing what you know now - how would you rank the players from the 2003 draft?
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i think we were looking to construct a 1st line and we went with a winger over all others. So, if anything I blame McPhee for the fact he didn't think to build his new team from the D on out. He chose to go for offense from the wing instead. We had a real dearth of defensive dmen and he ignored that position for a very long time.

The other problem I had with the Fehr pick was even though he had size, he wasn't your typical bruising top line power forward prospect.

either way, of all the criticism heaped GM's way for the Fehr v Getzlaf argument, I have been a silent bystander. I can think of much more ridiculous draft decisions than picking up an Eric Fehr. And I got to watch Fehr in Hershey and wasn't as down on him as were some other fans. I saw that he played with an edge and wasn't afraid to get involved. It was just a matter of improving his skating and getting much stronger and leaving his back/hip issues behind him.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

let's just make it easy for everyone to see:

viola, the 2003 draft!
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html

Posted by: FrankM73 | September 29, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@iceman27: We might have a spot opening up. $75 entry fee. Head-to-head w/ three playoff rounds. Live draft THIS friday at 8pm eastern.

I just sent an email to league commissioner to find out if the spot is still open. Stay posted for my update, or post your email now so that I can contact you later if I don't hear from commish for a while.

Posted by: struggler | September 29, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Quick question - I probably overlooked the answer, but where was Backs last night?

Hub-unit and I enjoyed being back at the Phone Booth last night. Great to see one and all... GO CAPS!!!!!

Posted by: Section416akatheAlps | September 29, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

new post......Nylander loaned to an AHL club, HUGE surprise!

Posted by: PhilR | September 29, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

@iceman27 and anyone else who's interested: yes my fantasy league has one spot open. $75, live draft THIS friday at 8:00pm eastern.

First come, first served! You are welcome to email me at m_j_parker@yahoo.com for details.

Posted by: struggler | September 29, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Semin is a beast." snickering at that one.

the "haters" as I am being described don't like him because at a minimum he is an inconsistent wuss; at worse a disinterested, overpriced wuss.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 12:54 PM

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LOL. And of course you would say that to his face instead of hiding behind a keyboard. I wouldn't suggest it, that boy can kick your butt with one hand behind your back, trust me, I know him.

Posted by: hock1 | September 29, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

From the limo night, it wasn't Sheehy with the girl's roomate, it was Alam May, and he roomed with Sheehy at the time...Stevens wasn't in th elimo, he was standing outside, the girl claimed he was supposedly as a lookout, Kypreos was also standing outside eating a bucket of KFC according to the girl,

agree with cstanton on Stevens, Scotty was my favorite Cap, and losing him changed the team dramatically

Posted by: boomer44 | September 29, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

alan may huh..yeah maybe i didn't remember that right. But that story got the local buzz going the same way the Len Bias deal went down. People were just glued to their sets. And I remember an outpouring of Cap fans who apparently claimed that unless every player from the limo night was cut from the team they wouldn't renew their season tix. I was like whaaat! ? you aholes!

anyway, david poile made Dino Ciccarelli personally get on the phone and call all these fans up one by one and apologize to them. And how did Dino even commit sexual assault with the cast he had on. The cast went halfway up his thigh courtesy of the hit put on him by Kris King in the Rags series. Dino could barely get around.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

check this out....this article came out BEFORE any of Dino's real troubles began which included getting suspended for pushign an official, getting arrested for assaulting Luke Richardson with his stick, and then of course the limo incident.

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-02-28/sports/sp-6480_1_dino-ciccarelli

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 29, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Cstanton, you talking about The Bayou down on K st? Used to be a great club.

Posted by: ds_kelly | September 29, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

hock1:

tell your (bongo)boy to sack up out there on the ice. as best i can tell, MP85 would wear his candy butt out.

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

hock1 = wet blanket

Posted by: doughless | September 29, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

On the topic at hand,this is just another reason to add to my arsenal on the fact of why neuvy will be our #1 goalie.How much have you heard of neuvy being injured?how much HAS varly been injured?Its just preseason and already hearing problems of varly and injury.It goes hand in hand.I trully feel the caps should,as much as i like varly,trade him while he still has some upside to him.If he gets hurt again this year no team is gonna want to go after an injury plagued goalie.(if hes not allready considered one).Anyway,just more into why i think or know that neuvy is our goalie of the future,along with holtby.love varly but... GO CAPS!!!

although i wouldnt be sad at all if varly proves me or anyone else wrong and has a stellar,injury free year.
A man can dream cant he!!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | September 29, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

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