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Mike Green won't play in Nashville

Defenseman Mike Green will miss Saturday's game in Nashville with an upper-body injury, Coach Bruce Boudreau said after this morning's practice. Green left the Wednesday's game with roughly six minutes remaining with what Boudreau then called a "stinger".

"He's a lot better today than he was yesterday, so I do think it's day-to-day," Boudreau said. "I just know he's not going to be playing tomorrow."

If Tom Poti (lower-body injury) is deemed unable to play against the Predators, the Capitals will recall a defenseman from Hershey. Given that the Bears play at Binghamton tonight and then at home against Rochester Saturday, the Capitals would likely make a call-up sooner rather than later if necessary.

Boudreau said the status of Matt Bradley (lower-body injury) and Marcus Johansson (foot) will be a game-time decision.

--Veteran Mike Knuble, who was given the practice off for family reasons, was the only player other than Green to not participate in this morning's workout.


By Katie Carrera  | October 15, 2010; 12:17 PM ET
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@capscoach...I agree with you just thought it was ironic...thats all.

Posted by: nimrodrsp | October 15, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Cstanton1 wrote:

Deryk Engelland was NOT an enforcer at the AHL level. He was a defenseman who logged a lot of ice time, both with Hershey and later with the Baby Pens. Just because a guy fights here and there and is good at it doesn't mean he's an "enforcer". Unless you consider players like Sheldon Brookbank to be enforcers. Hell, even Matt Carkner now pulls down a reg shift so you can take that label off him as well.

You need to go back to hockey school and learn what an enforcer is.

response: Are you kidding me? He averaged 130 PIMs over his last 3 years in the AHL. In the NHL that would have put him in the top 25 in PIMs last season. Yeah, he gave Orr a nice right to the chops, but he's a horrible defensemen.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 15, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Can we call up Souray?

We need his rights, correct?

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | October 15, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

That's going to be a tough game! (I would not bet the mortgage on the Caps...)

The Caps are still looking for an identity; it may seem trivial to most, but I was heartened to see Flash and Semin stick up for Laich the other way - in their fashion, but still they were there.

The Caps can establish their own style - they don't have to win any "right way" but the one they stand up and define for themselves.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 15, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Everyone standby. The self proclaimed hockey expert is on line. Everything you say that is contrary to what he believes as truth makes you an idiot.

cstanton1: Typically the players with high PIMs in the "A" come over and get EVEN higher PIMs in the bigs. Engelland is not an enforcer just yet, but, that will be how he secures a job in the NHL because although he meets your tough guy criteria as a defenseman, he's just not good enough to stick. Before you ask, yes, I have watched the Pens games. Doesn't really matter how many WBS games you witnessed, his performance in the NHL, subpar.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 15, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

response: Are you kidding me? He averaged 130 PIMs over his last 3 years in the AHL. In the NHL that would have put him in the top 25 in PIMs last season. Yeah, he gave Orr a nice right to the chops, but he's a horrible defensemen.

Posted by: fanohock1 |

apparently you never watched him play at the AHL level if you think he's a goon. Going on PIMs alone would mean Steve Ott is an enforcer/goon at the NHL level. Real broad thinking there.

Why would Bruce Boudreau of all coaches give Deryk Engelland quality ice time in the Calder Cup playoffs if he was strictly an enforcer? think about it. He was also a stalwart on defense for the Penguins farm team when he signed with them. You don't give quality minutes on D to a defenseman who is what you characterized him as.


so if he had less PIMs, would that suddenly make him a good player instead of an enforcer?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

@RedLitYogi

I see where you're going with that and I agree to a small extent.

Each team has it's unique aspects and nuances that separate them but...

underneath all that still lies fundamental hockey principles that all winning teams need to subscribe to.

Forwards committed to the defensive end, working hard along the boards in all 3 zones, good work ethic, etc...

The unique stuff is just a small part of the equation. Working hard, playing responsibly and doing all the little things are stuff that every team needs to do and that's what BB and Backstrom were referring to.

There are clearly areas where the Caps are lacking that they need to address to take the next step.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 15, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

they should call up souray

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 15, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I watched about 20 min on and off that Preds vs. Blues game last night.

This is yet another game where I fear that we'll get outworked and outexecuted in certain areas.

Hopefully the team that showed up against Ottawa shows up tomorrow. That was our only 60 min effort this season, even ahead of the NJ game despite the score in that one.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 15, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Everyone standby. The self proclaimed hockey expert is on line. Everything you say that is contrary to what he believes as truth makes you an idiot.

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well, if you're being idiotic because you don't know any better, how is that my fault?

David Backes had more PIMs in the NHL than Engelland had in the AHL. Is Backes a goon too?

don't make stupid arguments and maybe I won't treat you like an ____

" Before you ask, yes, I have watched the Pens games. Doesn't really matter how many WBS games you witnessed, his performance in the NHL, subpar.

Posted by: fanohock1 "

iirc, you've shared the same sentiment re: Erskine.

Did I say Engelland was a top 4 guy? No, I said he'd be a nice asset to have INSTEAD OF TYLER SLOAN.

Get it now einstein?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Individual skill needs to be stuff that is just icing on the cake when a team is doing all the little things right and working hard.

The fundamental stuff needs to be executed by the skill players on down to the last man on the ice.

When you are a team that always works hard and plays responsibly together in all 3 zones, then the skill can be the separator.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 15, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1: You haven't watched him at the AHL level either. To claim you have watched all these players at the AHL level, which has to be in person because they are rarely if ever on TV,is an outright lie. You claim to have seen a litany of players in the Juniors, AHL, and NHL. Well, it is humanely impossible to watch all that hockey, period. Between going to the Caps games as a season ticket holder, watching DVR'd NHL games, and NHL games live on Caps off days I have basically zero time to even watch NCAA hockey which is on television. Just admit you google for your data and you covet physical players.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 15, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

They can't call up Souray. He's Oilers property.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | October 15, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1: Typically the players with high PIMs in the "A" come over and get EVEN higher PIMs in the bigs.
--fanock--

i suggest you quit while you're behind.

Off the top of my head, over the past several yrs the top enforcers at the AHL level who graduated to the NHL level are

1) Derek Boogaard
2) Colton Orr
3) Brian McGrattan
4) Matt Carkner

Everyone of them put up higher #s in the AHL level. Somewhere between 250 and 350 PIMs is the norm for top enforcers at the AHL level.
McGrattan put up 550 PIMs in one season. And he missed 10 games.


seriously, whatever it is you're an expert on you should continue to talk about. Enforcers ain't it buddy.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

This is where adding a legit defenseman in the offseason (or even keeping Morrisonn or Jurcina) would have come in handy. Not only is the D weak/inexperienced...there's no depth anymore.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | October 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

For those talking about Souray...he is just a loaner, we cant call him up (think Nylander). In order to call him up, we would have to trade for him/claim him off waivers. Which I am pretty sure we wont do while he is a $5.4 mil a year cap hit currently.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Nashville should be a great early test for the Caps. They will need to work really hard and get ready for some hitting. If I were BB, I'd be telling the guys to bring playoff intensity. This could be the best D in the league.

Posted by: McLobo | October 15, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I do get it cstanton1, and IMO you're wrong. Just like Sloan, the only reason Engelland is in the line-up is due to Orpik's injury. Get it?

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 15, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Off the top of your head. You never put anything on here off the top of your head. You probably have 10 explorer windows running google searches as I type. Gotta run. Lack of response is because I will be logged off not scared to chat with you.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 15, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1: You haven't watched him at the AHL level either. To claim you have watched all these players at the AHL level, which has to be in person because they are rarely if ever on TV,is an outright lie

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i've seen Engelland play 30-40 games at the AHL level easy. Every shift? no, because I may have a couple of vid streams going. But I've seen enough of him in each of those games to formulate my opinion of him. And to categorize him as an enforcer based on his PIM total in the AHL is just frankly, highly stupid. There's a guy named Zack Fitzgerald who I think put up over 300 PIMs last season. ANd I wouldn't even reduce him to an enforcer. He's a tough defensive dman who gets into a lot of altercations. But he gets a regular shift with his team and plays against many of the top lines in the AHL.

your argument on this topic is so myopic it leaves me gasping. You're basically equating Deryk Engelland's role with his AHL teams to guys like McGrattan and Orr.

i cringe for you.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Nashville was going to be a tough game anyway, but without Green and Poti it will really be a challenge. The Caps defense will include both Erskine and Sloane, two (essentially) rookies, and a guy from Hershey. If Varlamov is in goal, some rust is likely.

On the other hand, if the forwards (especially the top 2 lines) take this as a challenge, it could be a very interesting game. It is an opportunity for the team to show what it is made of.

Posted by: zmega | October 15, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

i heard about this guy named finley - maybe BB should give him a shot at replacing greenie

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 15, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think Tampa is gonna be a top 5 team in the East at the end of the year?

Their offense is as scary as ours.

Posted by: underpants2 | October 15, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Lack of response is because I will be logged off not scared to chat with you.

Posted by: fanohock1 |


i think is lack of response is your best bet right now. Because everything out of your mouth on this topic has been mindnumbingly dumb.

You reduced Engelland's role in the AHL to be that of strictly an enforcer. Wrong! AHL enforcers better be puttin up more than a measly 120 PIMs per season. And they don't get quality ice time in the playoffs. Certainly not by Bruce Boudreau.

You claimed AHL enforcers typically pick up MORE PIMs once they graduate to the NHL. Wrong again! You simply cannot afford to have NHL enforcers routinely rack up over 300 PIMs anymore. Those days are long gone. Guess you've been asleep under a rock for a while not to know that. But at the AHL level, these same guys can hit the 300 PIM level without much of an issue.

so come back and finish this if you will. I suggest you talk about something else though. Unless you can specifically dispute anything I've said.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Tampa may not only be a top 5 team in the East but might win the south east.

Posted by: Searchingforstanley | October 15, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

i heard about this guy named finley - maybe BB should give him a shot at replacing greenie

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

i heard he's an enforcer at the AHL level. No need for him here.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

@tmacyao

agreed about principles, actually. I guess what I mean is if they care about winning and about each other, they can play a style that irritates Brian Burke and still win. But if the players lose faith and quit trying or try to hard to be individualists, the team will play poorly.

The NHL tunes the game by using discipline and the refs - right now, the games are being called in a way that still discourages holding and obstruction (good) but doesn't discourage what I think of as cheap shots (cross checks, elbows and forearms to the head, etc). That is a problem for us; our players for the most part don't thrive in that environment. I think we can define a way of playing that still succeeds without changing the basic, creative approach to this game that our best players excel at.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 15, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I may have a couple of vid streams going.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 12:54 PM

i'm envisioning you in a NORAD like control room, deep underground in a remote mountain completely fortified, with video screens everywhere - monitoring the nhl, ahl, khl, sel, echl, whl, qmjhl, ohl, ncaa and even a few mighty mite leagues :D

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 15, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Finley is not ready

Collins would probably be the call-up. He is a veteran with some NHL experience.

Fahey is another option, he was the last defensemen cut from the preseason.

Posted by: Wemiss21 | October 15, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think Tampa is gonna be a top 5 team in the East at the end of the year?
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its still very early and anything can change esp with a new regime. But even at early glance, i think they do a lot of things that may be conducive to winning reg season games but they lack some other components. They don't play the high energy style that Toronto does which I think will be their eventual downfall. I have respect for Yzerman though so I'm not ready to dismiss them as a strong playoff team just yet.

i did like their acquisition of Dominic Moore though. Very solid player. And Hedman is great too.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

For those talking about Souray...he is just a loaner, we cant call him up (think Nylander). In order to call him up, we would have to trade for him/claim him off waivers. Which I am pretty sure we wont do while he is a $5.4 mil a year cap hit currently.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 15, 2010 12:50 PM
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I think Edmonton can't trade him without putting him on re-entry waivers first. Caps probably would not get a chance to get him because another team would claim him first. (His salary and cap hit would be reduced by half for whichever team claims him)

So either way it's not happening - esp by Saturday.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | October 15, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

i'd like to nominate the Capn as being quietly, the biggest instigator on this blog!

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:59 AM

i'll second this nomination

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 15, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

If Poti cant play, Fahey is the most likely call up.

Secondly, just because Varly is dressing doesnt mean he is starting for us. In fact, due to recent D injuries, I wouldnt be totally surprised if BB keeps the recently groin injured goalie out of this game, being that with our depleted D our goalie will be seeing lots and lots of work.

But who knows. One thing I have learned about BB is that what he tells the media, usually ends up being the opposite.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 15, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The Caps are still looking for an identity; it may seem trivial to most, but I was heartened to see Flash and Semin stick up for Laich the other way - in their fashion, but still they were there.
--redlit--

that's not trivial. And I didn't see Flash do anything except skate in half-heartedly. But Semin did get in there so that was mentioned in the game thread.


and lmao at Kirk. That was brilliant man. And I can totally see where you would get that....you forgot the blow-up doll slumped over in the corner.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

and seriously, you really think i'd waste good wallspace on the SEL and KHL

haha

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

While it weakens our D even more I am glad I won't have to watch Mike Green tea bag the blue line all night tomorrow night. If it had not been for Sarge on Wednesday that D line would have killed us.

@ Searchingforstanley

totally agree with you this one, while it appears everyone in so concerned with what is happening here and what our team will look like tomorrow night, no one seems to be talking about the south east. I think we are in trouble this year. EVER other team got better but not us.

Posted by: bqts | October 15, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

The Caps could play Nashville with one 2nd pair D (Schultz), a 3rd pair D (Erskine), two rookies who let's call 3rd pair (Alz & Carlson), a 4th pair D (Sloan) and a 5th pair D from Hershey.

This makes GM decision to not acquire a top pair D over the summer highly questionable.

So is it time to pull the trigger on a deal, maybe coughing up next year's #1 and a prospect?

Maybe not. The Devils and Canucks will have D available when their LTIR guys come back. Can we wait? How long will Green be out? Last time I saw him with his arm like that (when Pronger pitchforked him into the boards) it was a two-week issue. Then we have Poti and his oft-injured groin.

You can't seriously think to challenge for the Cup with this D (not without your veins full of red Kool-Aid), so the question isn't if to make a deal but when.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 15, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

@tmacyao

agreed about principles, actually. I guess what I mean is if they care about winning and about each other, they can play a style that irritates Brian Burke and still win. But if the players lose faith and quit trying or try to hard to be individualists, the team will play poorly.

The NHL tunes the game by using discipline and the refs - right now, the games are being called in a way that still discourages holding and obstruction (good) but doesn't discourage what I think of as cheap shots (cross checks, elbows and forearms to the head, etc). That is a problem for us; our players for the most part don't thrive in that environment. I think we can define a way of playing that still succeeds without changing the basic, creative approach to this game that our best players excel at.

Posted by: RedLitYogi

ding ding

that's exactly right. We're never going to be a Toronto type of team because philosophically that kind of rough n tumble hockey will never be played here. But hopefully as these guys grow together for a while and go thru some playoff failures, they develop a more competitive nature on the ice. And then its upto GM to add a piece here and there to support that team grit like he did with King and Hendricks this yr.

I hope to see improved play out of DJ. If he's going to get 10 shifts in a game, he better find a way to finish more than one check. So far, his performance has been very average. Hopefully that's just him shaking off the rust and getting reacclimated. If he doesn't improve, I don't see him sticking in this lineup at all.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

you forgot the blow-up doll slumped over in the corner.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:13 PM

tmi, dude, tmi
i can't stop laughing
you don't wear a bow tie and pocket protector - do you?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 15, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

may have a couple of vid streams going.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 12:54 PM

i'm envisioning you in a NORAD like control room, deep underground in a remote mountain completely fortified, with video screens everywhere - monitoring the nhl, ahl, khl, sel, echl, whl, qmjhl, ohl, ncaa and even a few mighty mite leagues :D

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 15, 2010 1:07 PM

I actually envision more of the Kevin Smith type from Live Free or Die Hard.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 15, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

you don't wear a bow tie and pocket protector - do you?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

if i did, i'd be borrowing that from wtf_fehr

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

i'd like to nominate the Capn as being quietly, the biggest instigator on this blog!

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:59 AM

i'll second this nomination

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 15, 2010 1:12 PM

You can't second a nomination for yourself.

New nickname for cstanton is "Dr. No," with his control room there and his obvious desire :) at world domination.

I also think Collins could be called up if no Green and Poti as he has a style similar to Green. Also he's making 600K+ anyway so we might as well use him. What an idiotic signing that was. Two year deal NHL money $650K/yr and they leave him in Hershey. Isn't he at least as good as Sloan?

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 15, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

what's wrong with this D ?

Carlson-Erskine
Sloan-Schultz (Tyler's so good he can play either side)
Fahey-Alzner


maybe we need to switch to a 3-4 D. Albert!

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

@ tominsocal1

Good & Sloan should NEVER be put in the same line

Posted by: bqts | October 15, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Collins....Hendricks....in the same line up????? Come on, they'd have to pass out the sour's mix free samples at that game. Right? Or at least a Caps shaker.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 15, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Fat Albert could play 3rd pairing D all by himself and just roll from board to board along the blueline! It would be unbeatable!!

Posted by: PhilR | October 15, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

i heard about this guy named finley - maybe BB should give him a shot at replacing greenie

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

I wish they would call up Finley, because if they do and people see him play, unless he's improved dramatically, they'll quit with the "let's call up Finley" thing.

Yeah, his physical play will be liked by some, but getting beat like a rented mule by speedy NHL wingers won't endear him to most people including me - I saw enough of that when he played with ND.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | October 15, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I also think Collins could be called up if no Green and Poti as he has a style similar to Green.
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Collins actually has a more stay at home style. I'd consider him a defensive dman first.

What he has going for him is he's very strong on his skates. In that case, not unlike Green.

I first watched him in that rookies game v the Flyers 2 yrs ago i think (whichever game that was where Osala got jumped by either Klotz or Clackson at the end). Anyway, Collins caught my eye in that game because he was awesome on D. Every single time he was on the ice he was making a perfectly simple defensive play by separating his man from the puck. I was hoping he'd find his way onto our depth chart but his play fell off. And when he got recalled, he didn't really play that kind of game. I think potentially, he can be a serviceable defenseman dman on the bottom pairing. He has good instincts and he's strong along the boards. And I've seen him more than once lift a forward off the ice with a big hit. He's got that type of xplosiveness in his lower body.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"i've seen Engelland play 30-40 games at the AHL level easy. Every shift? no, because I may have a couple of vid streams going. But I've seen enough of him in each of those games to formulate my opinion of him. And to categorize him as an enforcer based on his PIM total in the AHL is just frankly, highly stupid."

Ok, I'm coming into this "discussion" a little late, but as a Bears season ticket holder I have watched Engelland play IN PERSON when he was a Bear. No, no, no. The Caps do not need him. He's not that great as a defenseman and frankly, not that great of a fighter. To say he'd be an upgrade over Sloan is a stretch.

Posted by: tess2201 | October 15, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, his physical play will be liked by some, but getting beat like a rented mule by speedy NHL wingers won't endear him to most people including me - I saw enough of that when he played with ND.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov

i hear you. I have very little hope that Finley will be anything but a marginal AHL player. But I hope I'm wrong. I'd be happy as heck if he turned into an Engelland, haha

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"i've seen Engelland play 30-40 games at the AHL level easy. Every shift? no, because I may have a couple of vid streams going."

That seems to have as much credibility as my 73 games quote.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 15, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

The Caps do not need him. He's not that great as a defenseman and frankly, not that great of a fighter. To say he'd be an upgrade over Sloan is a stretch.

Posted by: tess2201

he's not a great fighter because that's not his primary game. But he's a very good character player. Anytime the Bears players got into any altercation, Engelland would step up. Do you remember that playoff series with WBS where he went after JF Jacques because of repeated cheap shots by Jacques against the Bears smaller forwards? I think Tenute and Wilson.

Engelland is like Gary Nylund if anyone remembers him. Big thick frame, very strong. And he's beaten the odds for a long time. He was tagged as an ECHL player with barely marginal AHL skills. He battled his way into the AHL and stuck around for more than just his "enforcing" skills. Which he's certainly anywhere near a heavweight in.

I liked him in Hershey because he gave that team a nice presence on D and he knew when to step up physically for his teammates. If he was strictly a goon, he certainly didn't rack up enough PIMs nor was he a top heavyweight.

But he has been improving his fighting ability as well. Nothing wrong with that either. Every yr he wins more and more of his fights. He's a much better fighter NOW than he was a few yrs ago. And considering all our issues with Sloan here, I'd trade Engelland out for his spot.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

OMG sgm3 stole my joke I was mid typing...cept I was going to word it more like, cstanton1 watched The Engelland 30-40 Collection only because the 73 Game Bears DVD collection was still checked out.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 15, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

That seems to have as much credibility as my 73 games quote.

Posted by: sgm3

why? because you're a liar, that makes everyone a liar?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

tampa bay is not a top 5 team in the east and will not come within 10 points of the SE title. improved yes, but not that improved

Posted by: _stevo | October 15, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Uh-oh, sgm commented on cstanton's post. Let the blog version of WWIII begin!

Posted by: PhilR | October 15, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"The Caps could play Nashville with one 2nd pair D (Schultz), a 3rd pair D (Erskine), two rookies who let's call 3rd pair (Alz & Carlson), a 4th pair D (Sloan) and a 5th pair D from Hershey.

This makes GM decision to not acquire a top pair D over the summer highly questionable."

I disagree with this. This only points to lack of defensive depth for a few games during the regular season. Not that big of a deal for the Caps in the long run as they are still good enough to win a decent amount of regular season games with this lineup. The true consequences of not acquiring a top defenseman would only. if at all, be seen in the playoffs.

A poor regular season game here or there, eh.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 15, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1 watched The Engelland 30-40 Collection only because the 73 Game Bears DVD collection was still checked out.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce

touche

i knew i was setting myself up for that. But hey, if its the truth, its the truth. That's how many games I've watched of his in the minors. What can i tell ya.

I've also watched my share of Stingray games. Mostly to watch Dovgan, Morin, and Pokulok. Feel free to call me out for that as well.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

@ _stevo

Are you watching the same south east we are watching? I'll agree on the top 5 in the east but you could be eating your words on the SE

Posted by: bqts | October 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, cstanton, nobody in Hershey cried whenever Engelland was a healthy scratch. And nobody cried when he left and went to WBS.

Posted by: tess2201 | October 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

OMG sgm3 stole my joke I was mid typing...cept I was going to word it more like, cstanton1 watched The Engelland 30-40 Collection only because the 73 Game Bears DVD collection was still checked out.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce

That would have been very well played. I wish I was a few minutes later and was able to see that. It would've worked so much better.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 15, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

A poor regular season game here or there, eh.

Posted by: sgm3

Bruce, is that you?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, cstanton, nobody in Hershey cried whenever Engelland was a healthy scratch. And nobody cried when he left and went to WBS.

Posted by: tess2201

i remember seeing quite a few comments on the pennlive/hershey site to the contrary. Seems like most of the Bear fans on there liked Engelland and didn't care for Sloan. A lot of "i hope sloan stays up with the Caps and doesn't come back" stuff. And a few comments about Engelland that I could relate to.

I'm not disputing your own experience as a Bears fan. But your opinion doesn't change mine any more than SGM3's love for Semin would change my opinion of him. I liked what DE brought to the Bears and I was bummed when he left.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Looks like teams have stopped going after Ovi and are now targeting the other guys >.>

Islanders were doing a bit more than just rubbing out Green perhaps it is a good thing we have DJ King around.

Posted by: breaklance | October 15, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

A poor regular season game here or there, eh.

Posted by: sgm3

Bruce, is that you?

Posted by: cstanton1

Not sure, maybe you should stop by the Mercedes Benz of Alexandria and take a look at some of the vehicles there then I will confirm or deny your allegation.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 15, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

That would have been very well played. I wish I was a few minutes later and was able to see that. It would've worked so much better.

Posted by: sgm3

i agree. SAOTI is funnier than you are. I recommend you hold off on your attempted jokes until others have had their shot at it first. Otherwise you'll just be a jokeblocker.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

@bqts

yep I'm watching the same southeast...I don't think any of the teams improved enough to challenge the caps. Good starts for some of the teams, but that's like predicting the cup will now be between the predators and leafs this year

Posted by: _stevo | October 15, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

@bqts

So you think TB will take the SE, but arent a top 5 team in the East. How does that work? Especially being division leaders get automatic 1-3 placement. It can also be inferred from your statements combined, that you think the Caps wont make the playoffs or squeak in if they do. Sorry, just dont see that happening. I am going to lean towards _stevo's comments...circle gets the square.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 15, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The people on PennLive (which is a site I never bother with any more because some of the stuff on there is even more asinine that on CapsInsider) loved Engelland because they thought he was a fighter. These are the same people who worshipped Bonvie and Robataille.

Posted by: tess2201 | October 15, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

sometimes this blog seems more and more like Romper Room.

Posted by: nimrodrsp | October 15, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3, @saoti, @cstanton01, @capn_kirk

you all really should do MST3K for hockey - that would be funny as hell to watch...

yes, scary thought that Tyler's as "good" on the right side as he is on the left...(but not hard to believe.)

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 15, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

That would have been very well played. I wish I was a few minutes later and was able to see that. It would've worked so much better.

Posted by: sgm3

i agree. SAOTI is funnier than you are. I recommend you hold off on your attempted jokes until others have had their shot at it first. Otherwise you'll just be a jokeblocker.

Posted by: cstanton1

You are correct, SAOTI is much funnier than me.

However, you have SAOTI trumped in the humor department as you are the biggest joke on this blog. ;)

(followed by someone else stating the My Name Is Earl quote of "Oh Snap!")

Posted by: sgm3 | October 15, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

@ SeminAllOverTheIce

Not saying they won't make the play offs and I understand the seedings for the playoffs however I don't think it will be such a walk in the park as steveo said. I really think that it will be alot closer this year and not just with the frightening either.

Posted by: bqts | October 15, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

the people on PennLive (which is a site I never bother with any more because some of the stuff on there is even more asinine that on CapsInsider) loved Engelland because they thought he was a fighter. These are the same people who worshipped Bonvie and Robataille.

Posted by: tess2201

i dunno about that. I've heard plenty of negative comments about Louie on that site. Like any site, you'll get differing opinions. I didn't form my opinion of Engelland thru anything else besides watching him. And he's the type who can potentially be a #6/#7 dman in this league and improve a team's character and toughness.

now if you or anyone else doesn't find that trait to be valuable, it doesn't surprise me if you weren't a fan of his. I remember hearing a huuge reaction from the Hershey crowd and from John Walton when Engelland took on Jacques in that playoff game.

It was like when Darren McCarty blew up Lemieux. It wasn't just a fight, it meant way more than that. It was a long time coming and Hershey and WBS are extremely heated rivals so it made it even sweeter.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 15, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

well now... reading these comments was like 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back! :-( dangit!

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 15, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to see the original MST3K guys at Lisner in D.C. tonight.

That's a innocuous opinion/statement.

Posted by: saintex | October 15, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

CS -
seriously, whatever it is you're an expert on you should continue to talk about.

If you believe this it would render you silent. You have opinions on every subject and occasionally they are even well considered, but you are not an expert.

Posted by: ds_kelly | October 15, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

@saintex

man, I wish I could go - my favorite waste of time, that show was, once...

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 15, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

i see that everything is back to normal here. Negative comments, chastising and berating of fellow cap fans. You guys should get a life. GO CAPS!

Posted by: lost_confused_idelaist | October 15, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

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