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Open thread: Capitals at Wild

The Washington Capitals (6-3-0) look for their second straight road win as they take on the Minnesota Wild (3-3-2) at Xcel Energy Center. Chat about the game in the comments below, or join the conversation on Twitter with beat writer Katie Carrera (@kcarrera). See your tweets here by using #caps.

Faceoff: 8 p.m.; TV: CSN, NHL Network; Radio: 820, 1500 AM.


By Lindsay Applebaum  | October 28, 2010; 7:55 PM ET
Categories:  Minnesota Wild  
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Comments

Prediction: Caps 5 Wild 2

Ovi breaks out with 2 goals and 1 assist. Green adds a PP goal, with Fehr and Semin adding the others.

Posted by: ThePat | October 28, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry but the Wild look like skating Christmas trees! LOL

Posted by: nicety251 | October 28, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Great start for Neuvy. We need to play especially well tonight because McCreary's reffing. (I thought he was supposed to retire at the end of last season!)

Posted by: wocoliz | October 28, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Get rid of the tweet

and the Caps look weak so far, one post again and the Wild have all the scoring chances so far

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Caps are looking sloppy here and there. Need to find the groove.

Posted by: Justafan | October 28, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Quality shots for the Wild and junk, long range shots for the Caps. Same old story with the Caps system, all offense and soft defense. I really want to see a systemic change. The Caps trail, shocker.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

It's not so much the Caps not finding a groove, it's BB's run and gun system has been solved. Teams drop their dee back, wait for the Caps to overcommitt, and come up the ice with numbers. I am also gettting sick of watching teams parking forwards in the Caps crease.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Guys look like they are tired. Now skating lots of standing around and no getting pucks on net all trying to do fancy plays. Seems so far like they learned nothing from last night.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Out-worked and-hustled so far.

Posted by: Fletch22 | October 28, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

The Caps need to clean up the breakouts.

The forwards aren't supporting the defensemen well enough.

Watch how the Wild keep things tight and their forwards are in good positions for short passes on their breakouts.

This stretch pass, wide open stuff makes for sloppy play in the d-zone and neutral zone.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Sloan... sigh... he's always good for a sketchy play or two... or three.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Sloan should be nothing more than an 8thD/14th forward. A swingman you have on your roster who can play either up or back if needed for a game or two but should not be in many games.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The Caps cannot buy time in the Wild's zone

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Offsides Caps, offsides Caps, offside Caps, ugh

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Only 4 shots in the first. I think that shows how little we did that period.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Pretty unmotivated first period.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 28, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

What does Boudreau teach these guys as far as puck support and positioning (both on offense and defense)?

It's as if they're just free-wheeling so much of what they do out there.

Just about every team we play seems to have better structure, better positioning, better breakouts, etc...

Not all our defensemen have Green's ability to make something out of nothing. The forwards need to support the play and not look to get behind the defense and receive stretch passes so often.

In the defensive zone and on forechecks, we often have the same disorganized positioning issues.

Again, what does BB teach these guys as far as puck support and positioning? Stretch passes through sticks don't work most of the time.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

True, ice, but at least they only scored one goal on their multitude of shots.

Posted by: wocoliz | October 28, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

Your prediction is higher scoring than the game is turning out to be. 5 goals for the Caps -- what an unheard of concept.

At least they're only down by 1. Go Caps, get your act together, guys.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 28, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Simply put, I get the strong sense that Boudreau doesn't teach these guys enough of what to do off the puck, i.e., positioning, support, etc...

That, or what he is teaching them is just bad hockey.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I think that its complete BS that toothless inbred Philly fans get to watch our games on the Flyers off nights when Comcast in DC has anything but hockey on when the Caps are off. Comcast DC stinks.

Posted by: Digitalman08 | October 28, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Guess Caps have to play come from behind hockey yet again. Hope they come out strong to start the second.

Posted by: instinct227 | October 28, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

OK Caps, Let's come out strong.

Posted by: CapsFaninSC | October 28, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone catch the new show on Fox, Raising Hope? The dad in the show always wears a Caps T-Shirt. Fun to see.

Posted by: CapsFaninSC | October 28, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey digitalman, as a caps fan in PA for the time being I couldn't be more pleased that they are showing Caps games here. It is on The Comcast Network though, not CSN, so you need to relax.

Posted by: amorris525 | October 28, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

So BB dropped MP to the 3rd line, that ought to fix everything

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFaninSC

I have watched the show and noticed. I e-mailed the Bog about it. Apparently the creator/writer is a local. Greg Garcia, I think.

Posted by: nicety251 | October 28, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Erskine has been very good this year. He still should have got his stick though :P

Without me, my hockey stick is useless, without my hockey stick I am useless.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | October 28, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

NO time in the Wild's zone, this system stinks. The forwards are not backchecking in this system, but looking for the fast break. Something has to give.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

This is yet another example of a better coached hockey team we're up against.

There just isn't enough organization in what we do.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Here comes a powerless play err I mean powerplay.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 28, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

King Neuvy

Posted by: LloydChristmas | October 28, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I know Schultz is Mr. Stats around here but the guy is so unbelievably slow.

He can have 3 strides on a guy at the blue line and still get beaten to the puck by a forechecker.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

What was the wave off for? It looked like the goalie knocked the puck into his own net.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Well at least we were crashing the net there. The second period has been much better just can't score right now. All this talk about forwards backchecking ect. We have given up only 10 shots with just 2 minutes left in the second. I'll take that every game this year.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

If the Caps were the Flyers, that goal would have been allowed. That's how the Flyers score most of their goals and they're never waived off. That was some garbage.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | October 28, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

All 4 guys just standing around on that goal

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

This team needs a giant enema

Posted by: jdove80 | October 28, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

We're lucky to be down only 2-0.

It's not just a back-to-back issue. This team is poorly coached.

The longer we wait to bring in a coach to teach these guys the finer points of the game, the longer it will take to unteach these ingrained bad habits.


Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Sloppy. What is up with the offense?

Posted by: SirPelleas | October 28, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

And on that note, goodnight all

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 28, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Yup never making a prediction again. One night after playing a good 60 minute game, we haven't played but for 10 minutes maybe of the 40 minutes played so far. Expected a better effort. How many late period goals have we given up this year? I know we've scored our share in the last two minutes as well.

Posted by: ThePat | October 28, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

After watching the Wild play the Kings, I knew the Caps were in trouble

Posted by: ebolean1 | October 28, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Where were you last night tmac? I'm not holding this one against them, they probably got to their hotel at around 3 am. Still, you'd think they'd have figured out how not to go offsides by now.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

It's not just a back-to-back issue. This team is poorly coached.

The longer we wait to bring in a coach to teach these guys the finer points of the game, the longer it will take to unteach these ingrained bad habits.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:34 PM

I have reluctantly come to the same conclusion. I think if our coaching doesn't improve, the team never will...no matter who is playing for us. And where I used to be amused by BB's commercials, I now find them exeedingly annoying!

Posted by: Thisistheyear | October 28, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

What your seeing tonight is yet another blatant example of a coach and a system that is completely picking apart another coach and another system.

You'll see this happen plenty of times even when both teams are fresh.

Their system is completely taking away are junky style of hockey and BB and the players have no idea what to do.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

What happened to Julie in the studio?

Posted by: ebolean1 | October 28, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

To go deep in the playoffs, you have to be a team that not only has talent and top end players but a team that pays attention to detail and plays a smart 3-zone brand of hockey.

The Caps will always run into a coach and team that exploit Boudreau and the things he teaches (and doesn't teach).

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Tmac, the players are playing back-to-back, in a different time zone and overnight too. I think you have to cut the team some slack here. If they play like this after they are rested (and awake) then you may have a case.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Tmac, the players are playing back-to-back, in a different time zone and overnight too. I think you have to cut the team some slack here. If they play like this after they are rested (and awake) then you may have a case.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't hiding because the Caps won, that's for sure.

I was watching a lot of basketball and baseball in addition to hockey.

Even last night, some of these same issues were present.

I've been saying this stuff for a long time, even in the midst of winning streaks.

McPhee and Boudreau are both hindrances to this organization.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Prediction...Hadeed will do time for inappropriate behavior involving the Amerital triplets. I have not seen eyes like that since Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: vawoodworker84 | October 28, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I don't know who's slower, Erskine or Schultz ... but neither of them can skate worth a darn. Carlson has been standing around most of the night & has been very slow to react to anything.

Posted by: goforit4 | October 28, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't know who's slower, Erskine or Schultz ... but neither of them can skate worth a darn. Carlson has been standing around most of the night & has been very slow to react to anything.

Posted by: goforit4 | October 28, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

"What your seeing tonight is yet another blatant example of a coach and a system that is completely picking apart another coach and another system."

Todd Richards is very familiar with BB and his 'system'. Richards coached in the AHL in Milwaukee and WilkesBarre during the years that BB was in Hershey.

Posted by: tess2201 | October 28, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

The things I'm talking about having nothing to do with fatigue. They are ever-present issues with the style of play and the roster makeup.

The positioning of our forwards in all zones, the way we break out of the defensive zone, the way we handle opposing forechecks, the way we apply (or don't apply) our own forecheck, backchecking, the way players use their sticks in front of the net, the style of passing game, puck support by the forwards, defensive awareness by the forwards, etc...

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Another missed opportunity

Posted by: SirPelleas | October 28, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

will the elbow that Green received to the head be reviewed by the league even though there was no call?

Posted by: ebolean1 | October 28, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

@ebolean. Every play is reviewed but other then a 2 minute call there was nothing there. Nothing the league can/will do after the game.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

When you are fatigued your body and mind do not function as you would like, period. Make your case at another time!

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Too fancy need to shoot the bleeping puck.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Okay - thanks. I thought maybe with all of the attention on shots to the head that something more serious could happen.

Posted by: ebolean1 | October 28, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

shimmy - tryin ta stir things up

Posted by: ebolean1 | October 28, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Look, we just ran into a hot goalie tonight.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

@ebolean1 they are looking at the blindside ones. That clearly was not one of those.

Chimmy going to the net which is good but with not control at all which is bad. Stupid play there.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I've made my case tons of other times, after wins and losses.

It may be more pronounced tonight but the bad habits and lack of good habits are ever present.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

we all see what we want to see - whether it is there or not. hence the kool-aid drinkers and the dark siders

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 28, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I feel bad for Neuvy. They don't seem like they want anything to do with a win...

Posted by: sca187 | October 28, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy Locker's idea that you can only balance line ice time when you are winning. The big advantage the Caps were supposed to have is their scoring depth (with 2 20+ goal players on the 3rd line). I think the problem is when we are down we go too much to the top line and they get tired and aren't as effective.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

we're just repeating ourselves. i don't care if it's back to back games, these are professional athletes.

we're just gonna have to get used to this. changing your line combinations isn't an in game adjustment.

is this "hot goalie" or is this something else? just want to see what excuse we're using tonight.

Posted by: natresgroup | October 28, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

BTW, the 'hot goalie' comment was sarcasm.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Ok one down can we get another?

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

way to go OVI

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Joe B for jinxing Backstrom's shutout!

Posted by: ablake70 | October 28, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

ELEVATE the puck Nicky!

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

We were lucky to be down only 2 for most of the game as severely outexecuted as we were by yet another better coached team. If the Wild had a little more talent to capitalize on their superior execution and dominance of the neutral zone, it was probably 4 or 5-0 after 2 pds.

The effort was good late in the game but effort is only part of the equation.

You also need to play smart and do the little things and that starts with coaches teaching those things.

The Caps have talent but they don't consistently work hard and they rarely play smart.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

So, we have dark-siders for pessimists and we have kool-aid drinkers for optimists. What do we have for realists?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

If I were the coach I would play Holtby against the Flames. Not because this loss is on him but to try and get the guys to not rely on great goaltending as much. Also the team needs to start shooting more. Key example was the 2 on 1 with Ovechkin and Backstrom where Backstrom gave Ovechkin a great pass and he forced it back to Backstrom and he cannot get a shot off. Would Ovechkin have scored? Maybe but it would have been a better chance the forcing it where there was no way Backstrom can get a shot off. There were many other times but that one just stuck out the most to me. 17 shots against is a good number now the Caps have to work on lowering the quality of those shots.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Tmac, shutup! (tonight).

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Well, on to the next game of the GMGM/BB era...

That means more broken up stretch passes, poor puck support, inconsistent backchecking, bad positioning and play off the puck, etc...

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

My recommendation for realist is "Ice Tea, unsweetened".

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh God.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

So, we have dark-siders for pessimists and we have kool-aid drinkers for optimists. What do we have for realists?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:34 PM

credit goes to tominsocal1 (from about a week ago) - here is your answer:

"During the summer, sentiment here was pretty evenly split three ways between Dark Siders, middle-of-the-roaders and then the Kool-Aid drinkers."

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 22, 2010 3:16 PM

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 28, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Thank you cap'n. I think I fall into the middle-of-the roader category (Tmac probably thinks he does too).

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

So, we have dark-siders for pessimists and we have kool-aid drinkers for optimists. What do we have for realists?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Dark kool-aid?

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 28, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

You have zero control, FloridaCapsFan.

Your one little powerless username like the rest of us.

Accept it or don't read my posts or continue to read them and hopelessly try to stop people that you don't know from posting on the internet in an open forum that you have no control over.

Your choice.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

So, I made the 'running into a hot goalie' comment right after Chimmy got a 2 minute minor for running into Backstrom, get it?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

If anything, your attempts to control what you can't control will lead me to post more.

I think that's just human nature. At least that's how I react to those useless attempts.

If that's what you want, keep trying and you'll get even more from me.

Again, your choice.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

koolside-darkaiders

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 28, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Tmac, you are correct, I have zero control and you have zero control. The one with the control is Ted Leonsis. Maybe if the fans at the game started voicing their opposition .... who knows?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

So, I made the 'running into a hot goalie' comment right after Chimmy got a 2 minute minor for running into Backstrom, get it?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:51 PM

i didn't tie those together the first time - clever - next time i'll pay more attention

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 28, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Tmac, I'm not trying to control you. I just think your timing is off. Have a good night.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Some players come into the league with a package of skills and the hockey IQ to be less affected by the weaknesses in BB's coaching.

Other players need more guidance and continued development to become a complete player.

As great of a talent and an athlete as Ovechkin is, he falls into the second category. He will not take the next step in his mental development under this coach who doesn't know how to get him to believe in and work on certain things that it takes to truly be successful as an individual and a team.

He's not alone but as our highest paid player representing roughly a 6th of the cap and that much ice time, he absolutely needs to take that next step.

He needs to become a better player on and off the puck, offensively and defensively, and that won't happen for him or a lot of other players under this coach.

And the added issue is that the longer we stick with BB, the harder it will be for the next coach to clean up these bad habits and develop the right habits.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Watchin' you too Cap'n.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 28, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

You have a good night, too.

I understand where your coming from the timing thing but I've said the same things when they were fresh, when they were winning, when they were losing, during the season, during the playoffs, during the offseason, during preseason, etc...

I hadn't posted in a few days mostly because of the start of basketball season.

I was not ignoring their fatigue at all. Surely they were more tired than the Wild tonight.

But the issues I'm talking about have nothing to do with the fact that they were tired. They are ever present issues is my argument.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 28, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

POSTGAME THOUGHTS:
An APB has been put out for the Caps offense which was last seen in Carolina. Just an ugly flat performance tonight but yes the team did have their chances. Kudos to Minny's Backstrom who locked it down when he had to tonight.

Too little too late on Ovi's goal. They had their chances and it's ashame another solid effort by Neuvirth went to waste tonight. Oh well. Onto Calgary.

Ice Breakers Goal Shakers

Posted by: Jonathan6 | October 28, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Tmac,I have come to the conclusion that you have a pretty sharp hockey mind. Any chance of you getting an audience with BB. I would like to put his feet to the fire. You seem to be the one to do it.

And...............whatever happened to RichmondPhil? Miss him.

Posted by: analyzerman | October 28, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

we all see what we want to see - whether it is there or not. hence the kool-aid drinkers and the dark siders

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

Amen Brother! Every fan of the teams we beat are saying the same thing, although we did look like crap tonight

Posted by: ksaul79 | October 28, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

"If anything, your attempts to control what you can't control will lead me to post more."

@tmac2yao

Seriously? Are you four? What's the point?

@Jonathan6

I think the APB for the Caps offense stretches to the Devils game at the beginning of the season. I also think Laich's face will soon be appearing on a milk carton. As much grief as others on the team get Laich has been awful and was pretty much invisible again tonight as he has been all season(except when he is set up on a great scoring chance and shoots the puck into the goalie's stomach).

Also, Knuble has to start lifting the puck more on his shots.

I want to move Fehr to line 1, Knuble to drop to line 2 and Laich to move to line 3.

Also, BB gave up on MP too quickly. MP did not have a great beginning of the game but I think BB should've given him the chance to play himself out of it instead of demoting him so early.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 28, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Some may disagree, but guys like Cullen and Madden are the meat and potatoes kind of guys that the Caps could have used.

At one point JoeB mentioned that a Caps shot would probably be reviewed that either hit the crossbar or the upper part of the goal net, however after commercial break I don't think it was mentioned again.

Sometimes it seems as BB's only strategy is to double shift Ovechkin and hope for the best.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | October 28, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Bad day for the Caps. Again.

After Minnesota scored their 2nd goal at the end of the 2nd period, I decided that doing an on-line Cognos class would be a better use of my time (and I was right, unfortunately).

This year's Caps. Getting goals is like pulling teeth.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 28, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Every time the team loses it seems like it's BB's fault and every time the team wins it is the player's who get the credit.

The player's play the game, the player's are always the most at fault for losing any hockey game, not the coach. People blaming the coach are the same people who always look to blame anybody else except the person who messed up.

If a person commits a crime, they would be blaming it on the criminal's parents, friends, surroundings, bad influences, etc, instead of putting the blame on the person who actually did the deed committed the illegal act.

If a player makes a bad play, that player is the most at fault. If a player does not hustle, that player is the most at fault. Blame the person who is committing the bad act and stop blaming people who are off to the side with minor influence.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 28, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

At one point JoeB mentioned that a Caps shot would probably be reviewed that either hit the crossbar or the upper part of the goal net, however after commercial break I don't think it was mentioned again.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | October 28, 2010 11:24 PM

i had to watch the game on nhl network (minn feed) - and when they came back from the break - they showed a replay (from the side of the goal) and the puck when over the crossbar, landed on the net/back support bar and then came back out over the crossbar. it was not a goal - but the path the puck took was very odd.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 28, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

a couple of interesting stats from the game
toi - green 30:41, carlson 21:32 - for the forwards - ovi 20:43, semin 20:32 and laich 20:21 - no one else had over 20
flash, hendricks, laich, mp and steckel were a combined 14 of 41 - backs was 17 of 24
schultz - 5 block shots and 4 hits - thats a monster night for him
caps had more hits than shots on goal - 29/22 - i don't think that happens very often
they were out hustled all night - but at least they played D. i'm wondering if this additional concentration on their D is having a negative effect on other aspects of their game. if they have been tasked with playing better D (and get even a little better at it) and then get some of their O back - they could cause some trouble come the real season.
they only have 72 games left to figure it out.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 29, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

Even though the Caps are giving up less goals, they don't exactly have depth in the D-Corps, which is the sad part.

There is speculation that Sloan got hurt since he only played about 7 minutes or so. (Yes, Sloan made mistakes but were any of them so egregious that he deserved to be benched for the rest of the game?)

We know Green is recovering from an injury. And Carlson isn't exactly healthy either. (And Poti is out.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 29, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Same sh-- different story. What a yawner. They were lucky to win off the backs of a hot goalie last game, and now tonight they get stifled by one of the worse teams in the West.

Disgraceful coach, disgraceful "stars", a bunch of worthless grunts and back-end.

I think it's proof that this team is probably the dumbest and worse conditioned team in the NHL. Can't adapt to what the opposition throws at them, can't step up when the going gets rough. Chokers.

No-show OV should just go back home to mother russia and live his party life, what an embaressment to the game. He's a superstar alright... in the choking and waste of talent category.

Posted by: BigGameSid | October 29, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

i'm sure no one thought it was going to be our lack of offense that would hold us back.

i truly wonder what can be done for our power play. maybe simplify? knuble and laich just aren't putting home the rebounds and the garbage like they did last year.

i truly hope they find their rhythm soon.

Posted by: natresgroup | October 29, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

BigGameSid:
are you SC1907 from last year and just couldn't remember your id and created a new one? Sid get into his new place yet?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 29, 2010 2:34 AM | Report abuse

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