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Morning Reading List: Boudreau Is 'Adorable'


(Jonathan Newton -- The Washington Post)


Capitals Coach Bruce Boudreau was a guest on TSN's Off The Record yesterday, and it's definitely worth transcribing for the can't-watch-videos-at-work folk. Here it is:

Host Michael Landsberg: Bruce Boudreau -- this is the truth. He is just so...adorable! We all know "The Great One," "The Magnificent One," the next one up, we officially crown him "The Adorable One." Bruce Boudreau, Caps coach, good to see ya.

Bruce Boudreau: [laughing] It's great to be here.

ML: Sorry for objectifying you, by the way.

BB: [still laughing] That's really, uh, it sounds like somebody wants to pet me.

ML: Well, maybe we do!

[Ed. Note: This is awkward.]

ML: Game 7, 6-2. That was 15 days ago. Are you over it?

BB: Well, I don't know if I'm going to get over that. I still haven't been able to watch Game 7 yet. And when I go back, I'm going to sit down and watch the game, but it was a tough one to take because every other game was so close.

ML: Tough to take too because you were at home, right? The crowd is so wildly into it, you must have felt like, man, we let 'em down.

BB: Well, I, in a sense we did -- we tried and it just didn't work out. But the crowd so wanted it this year. They wanted to beat Pittsburgh for the first time in so long, and the next thing you know, it's 5-0. It was such a letdown. But our crowd, when they give Varly a standing ovation after getting pulled, and then they gave us a standing ovation at the end after losing like that, I thought that it showed a lot about what they are.

ML: We'll go back through the playoffs, but before we do that, let's talk about the story that came out of Florida. And you know what I'm talking about, which was the drug dealer in Florida -- alleged drug dealer -- who said that he sold steroids to all kinds of professional athletes, including the Washington Capitals. What did you think when you heard that?

BB: I heard it [Wednesday], and I was really shocked about the whole thing, 'cause I mean, it would never cross my mind that that would happen. And I know they tested us -- the players -- three times and coaches hate it. Nobody knows when they're getting tested [so] it screws up your practice and instead of having a 10:30 practice, now you've got to go on about 11:15, the time everybody is done, and so they really scrutinize it and do it, they really go over the top doing it, and so when I heard this, I'm really shocked and I've gotta believe that there's nothing to it at all.

ML: But, and we'll talk about this with the panel, because it's a key issue, you would agree with me if I say that a hockey player has a lot to gain by being bigger, and recovering faster, just like a baseball player does.

BB: Well, I would think. You know, I mean, that's why baseball players took them and I'd have to be naive-

ML: I've got an idea -- why don't we blame it on [Sergei] Fedorov and [Viktor] Kozlov? They've gone to Russia anyway! Let's throw it all on their shoulders.

BB: You know what, I'm not blaming it on anybody. I just have a hard time believing that anybody on our team would take it. But I'm not that naive to say that it's an impossibility. I just think I know my team really well.

ML: So we'll talk about that with the panel, your buddy John Anderson will be here. I want to go back to the playoffs. Jose Theodore, not sharp in Game 1, how tough a decision was it to go with [Simeon] Varlamov?

BB: Well, we had a couple days off in between 1 and 2, and i just wrestled with my mind the whole time, and I brought [GM] George [McPhee] into it and the assistants and we talked about it, and my philosophy, the theory was that if we waited and Jose had a bad game again, and down 2-0, to throw Varly into New York, into that atmosphere, down 2-0, and he couldn't cut the mustard, so to speak, then we'd be down 3-0, we'd be well out of it. But we thought we could still recover if we experimented and tried him [in Washington] and he wasn't good, then we could come back to Jose, who's always stepped up after a bad game.

ML: So let's talk briefly about next year. The Washington Capitals, to go to the next step. I mean, you're really close, but obviously you've had changes already because you've lost Fedorov and Kozlov to Russia. What do you think you guys need to take the next step?

BB: I don't know; when you take Pittsburgh, and I know the finals aren't over yet, to Game 7, and we take off and put the puck in our own net, we could have been in the finals now. I don't think it's a heck of a lot. We've got a great core.

ML: Did you care that Fedorov and Kozlov left, or was it time for them to move on, in your mind?

BB: Well, they were free agents; they can do whatever they want. But we like both of them. You know, Fedorov, he'll always be one of my favorite players, and Kozzie, he was a good fit for that line.

[Ed. Note: Interesting that Boudreau doesn't correct Landsberg -- Fedorov hasn't "left" yet, as far as we know, and as of Wednesday evening, Kozlov had not spoken to the team about his decision to go back to Russia.]

ML: Can I ask about Mike Green? Because a lot of people are talking about Mike Green for the Olympic team, and he was a disappointment in the playoffs. How injured was he?

BB: He was- he was not feeling very well; we still think he had mono. He'd been checked out and everything for that, and he, you know, it's a long year for him. And he just ran out of gas like a lot of our players did at the end.

ML: Damn, I was hoping we'd have time to get down on the floor and have you do the Ovechkin 50th goal celebration, but we don't have time for that.

BB: That got way too much flak for the five seconds that it did, so I'm not gonna touch that.

Check out the panel discussion here. Highlight: Landsberg asks how you go about shutting down a Pittsburgh Penguins team with weapons like Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin. Boudreau: "You're askin' the wrong guy, 'cause we couldn't do it."

Boudreau also talks about Sean Avery's attitude, shares that he went golfing with Ted Leonsis at Congressional and confirms that Sidney Crosby is the second-best player in the league. (And no, I don't work for TSN, despite the heavy promotion today.)

A Few Morning Links

* In Hershey, Keith Aucoin is sidelined with a hip flexor injury, but Coach Bob Woods expects him to be on the ice for Friday's practice in Winnipeg. Game 1 against the Manitoba Moose is Saturday. (The Patriot-News)

* John Buccigross's 10 reasons the Penguins will win the Stanley Cup. (ESPN)

* The Red Wings' Nicklas Lidstrom expects to play in Game 1. (Detroit Free Press)

* The draft is coming up on June 26, and there's really no debate: John Tavares is at the head of the class, likely a soon-to-be Islander. (The Sporting News)

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Comments

Does anyone know if the Calder Cup Finals are on TV?

Posted by: bagasome | May 29, 2009 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Sadly, they won't be on TV. You can pay to watch it on theahl.com or listen to it on sportsjuice.com. Last year's Calder Cup Finals were on NHL network, so I don't get why they can't broadcast this year's there. :(

Posted by: rachel216 | May 29, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

@puckheaded1 and everyone else that keeps saying the Caps as an organization choked in 92, 95, 96, and 2009.

First of all the 1991-92 Pens had the likes of Lemieux, Jagr, Mullen, and Francis, while the Caps leading scorer was Pivonka, then Hunter, Cicarelli, and Khristich. When our Caps were up in the series it was a shock, even to me, no bigger Caps fan, you can't convince me there is a bigger one out there. After the Pens got by the Caps they went 12-2 to cruise to the Stanley Cup. Wouldn't call it a choke, just the Caps playing a gritty series and hanging in with a much more talented team.

1995- Shortened season, the Pens were the 2 seed, the Caps the 7 seed (first year there were not division playoffs) the Pens were again loaded with superstars like Jagr, Francis, Robitaille, Murphy, Cullen, the Caps had Bondra and Carey. I attended Game 6 of that series, the 7-1 needle in the eye. That was the game that Carey couldn't stop a beach ball so Kolzig replaced him, made a couple of nice saves, and then couldn't get up because he blew his knee out. Wasn't pretty. Again, we were Waaaaay over matched.

1996- Come on, anyone that thought we had a chance was not watching the Pens that year. Both Lemieux and Jagr scored more than 50 goals, and their line-up included, Francis, Nedved, Sandstrom, and Zubov. The Caps were still playing "Caps hockey", you know, defense and the hope that Bondra would score. Our 5th leading scorer that season with a measely 41 pts was Keith Jones. We didn't have a chance.

This season's playoff series wasn't a choke, as someone mentioned, the first 4 went to the home teams, then the road teams traded 5 and 6. Sure game 7 could have gone better, but did the team choke, or did Varly crap his pants. Goals 2, 3, 4, (tap, tap, tap, went the nails on the coffin) were ALL soft goals. Varly played great for his first NHL playoff run though so I'll give him a pass on the egg.

I know, excuses, excuses throught the years, but our boys on on the cusp right now, and Feds and Koz leaving so quickly in the off season may be a blessing in disguise.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Correction, in 1996, Lemieux and Jagr both scored over 60 goals, not 50.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Fanohock1 is right. The Caps have never had a team that could overwhelm the Pens. But we are moving into a new era of rivalry. The first year went to the Pens, who should been a higher seed from the start, but the lateness of the their coaching change, getting Gonchar back, the infusion of new blood and the letting go of Whitney helped them greatly.

The Caps saw what they needed in the Pens series. A tough guy defensively (John Carlson) and another smart defenseman (Karl Alzner). They need a big guy near the net (Osala). Also need another center to replace Feds. Someone quick....

Departures by next season:
Feds--age (4 mill)
Kozlov--lack of speed 2.4 mill)
Nylander (hopefully retirement)--age (5 million)
Schultz--lack of toughness (800,000)
Morrison--lack of toughness (1.2 million)
Brashear--age, speed (1 mill)

Projected lines
OV--Backstrom--Fehr
Semin--New Center--Clark
Bradley--Steckel--Laich
Flash--Gordan--Osala or Laing

Defense--
Green--New stay at home defenseman
Poti--Erskine
Pothier--Carlson
Jurcina--Alzner

Posted by: sazzwho | May 29, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

@sazzwho

If that is our lines next year, the other teams better be weaker too... ot that new center better be Steve Yzerman...

By the way, I still maintain that Clark is finished... he doesn't belong on our team anymore, or, at best, on a 4th line.

Posted by: atybat | May 29, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

If I see one more video clilp, or one more post with Feds name spelled Federov instead of FedOrov I think I'm gonna go ballistic. I mean the guy has been in the league for 18 years now. Is it really that tough?

Posted by: fedsfan91 | May 29, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I hear over 13,000 tickets sold so far for the Bears/Moose game. Should be sold out by noon. Forget watching it on TV. Take a road trip to Winnipeg for game 2.

Posted by: Stu_c | May 29, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

@FedsFan: Thanks. I was getting tired of making that point meself.
@All: See the Stanley Cup, the Selke, and the Hart trophy for the correct spelling of #91's name. Thank you.

Posted by: redlineblue | May 29, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Flash will never be a 4th line winger... He will be off of the team before that.

Ovechkin/Backstrom/Fehr
Flash/FA or Trade/Semin
Laich/Steckel/Clark or Bradley
Beagle/Aucoin/Gordon

Bourque/Osala

Posted by: JSchon | May 29, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

@ Atybat

If you see a better way for the Caps to improve with out breaking the bank or uining their chances to continue to grow let them know.

If I was in a dream world it would may be Antropov or maybe Madden or Sedin(a real reach!!!)

If Clark is done and I am not as sure as you are on that, than a new wing would be in order. Lets dream of Hossa or Havlat or maybe even Erik Cole. And defense Derek Morris.

Posted by: sazzwho | May 29, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

@sazzwho

I think that we can probably trade a few players that have some value so we can get the few role players that we need.

I would keep only Ovie, Backstrom, Green, Semin (for now), Steckel and Erskine as unavailable for trade. Everyone else could be trade bait. I am not saying trade them all, just a few for what we need. I am not sure we will get what we need through free agency, except on defense.

Posted by: atybat | May 29, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I say Clark needs a healthy season to see if he can still produce before we call him done. I can see a couple of the Bears making an impact full time, but I think it's nuts to rely on more than a couple guys who stick.

Posted by: snakegriffin | May 29, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Since everyone is playing GM, I figure I'll through my head in there...

Projected lines
OV--Backstrom-New Wing (Hoping Kovalev)
Laich--New Center--Semin
Bradley--Steckel--Fehr
Laing--Gordon--Bourque

Defense--
Green--Jurcina
Poti--Erskine
Pothier--Sloan
--Alzner

Hopefully the Caps trade Flash for a bag of pucks or a 12 pack of gatorade.

Maybe the Caps will move Laich back to center on the 2nd line and bring in a guy that goes to the net like Madden or Cole.

Biggest signing this offseason will be to re-sign Backstrom.

Posted by: jake81 | May 29, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Fehr on top line? Really?

Oh well, we have all summer to debate it.

OV - Backstrom - (new RW)
Semin - (new center) - Flash
Laich - Steckel - Bradley

Outside of Gordon, not sure about the fourth line ... Fehr, Borque, Laing, Osala, Aucoin, Beagle, Giroux ... so many players in the mix.

Posted by: Cerealman | May 29, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

@atybat
No Varly on that DO NOT TRADE list?

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

as far as everyone's "New Center" goes, I think promoting from within is the best option. Going after high priced free agents rarely works out as expected, and trading for a 2nd line center would cost more than GMGM is likely willing to give up. Aucoin has proven that he can hang in the NHL, why not give him a shot? Get Giroux up next year as well, put them on the same line, and see if they can develop the chemistry in the NHL that they obviously had in the AHL.

Posted by: FOHS_Marc | May 29, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

We're in deep duke if Fehr is going to be our first line winger, guys.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I think Osala, Aucoin, Giroux, Borque could be called up next year depending on our needs.

Unless Nyles retires I dont see him being traded I just dont think there is that big of a market for him out there. If that happens I see him being our 2nd line center.

Anyone know Carlson's status? Is he ready for the NHL next season? I know King Karl is ready or nearly there.

I still think we need a Komisarek/Pronger type of D man who isnt afraid to take a penalty to send the message "our crease is no longer your territory"

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I put Fehr on the top line hoping he is either trade bait or works hard to improve. There was a brief period where he was on the top line and did well, but I don't see him staying there. Flash is on my 4th line because he belongs there or to be traded as well. I think the way Steckel played in the playoffs he is untradeable

No trades:
OV, Varly, Backstrom, Green, Alzner, Steckel, Poti

Posted by: sazzwho | May 29, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Everyone trying to throw the likes of Fehr, Bourque, Osala, Aucoin, and Giroux on the 4th line aren't making sense. You see, none of those guys will make good 4th liners because they still believe they are goal scorers. Since that will be the case they will get into trouble more often than not because they will not want to be dump and chase/cycle guys. Fehr was put there in the playoffs due to being ineffective, and then he hurt his shoulder, thus making room for players willing to play that role Clark/Beagle.

If Bourque, Osala, Aucoin, or Giroux, or Mink for that matter, make the big squad next year it will be because the Caps have given up on Flash and or Fehr and have traded them and left a hole. Osala still has time to ripen in the minors another season if he doesn't make the big squad but I see Bourque, Aucoin, Giroux, and Mink being trade assets if they don't crack the line-up. Out of those Aucoin would probably come back to bite us because he proved he sees the ice very well. He also proved his size really isn't going to a liability and not many small guys have been able to prove that.
The bad thing for those AHLers is that if the Caps package up Fehr and Flash to the same team for a player they would get something valuable in return because they combine for 30+ goals. The Caps would probably be able to get the rights of a quality net crasher or S@H defenseman with experience that we know we need.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Dear fannohock1 and sazzwho,

You say the Caps never choked against the Pens? If you don't consider blowing all those 2-0 and 3-1 leads to be choking, did you forget about 1999-2000 when the Caps were the 2 seed (102 pts), and the Pens were the 7 seed (88 pts)?

Do you not remember the Caps getting BLOWN OUT IN FIVE GAMES??

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | May 29, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

What I meant in closing for the AHLers trying to land a job in the NHL, if we get the rights of a quality net crasher, that is one less spot available for them.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

@hockeypuck1

Dont you have a Detroit board to troll?


Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Hey BB,
How about a golf tourney here too, to help DC MSA youth hockey! We have the rinks!

Posted by: Max231 | May 29, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Diz, if we don't we don't acknowledge the past we are doomed to repeat it. Like we did this year.

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | May 29, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I watched that BB interview. Michael Landsberg is an idiot. It aint about talent, people. Its who you know.

Posted by: oo7 | May 29, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

@ Dizzy - they can't troll a Detroit board, they've never beaten them.

Posted by: snakegriffin | May 29, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The past is the past yes if you don't acknowledge it you are doomed to repeat it, but on the other hand dwelling on it has no positives effect either.

This was not our year. I'm actually glad we got beat because it really showcased to management that we need better D which has been our soft underbelly for a while now.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

@hockeypuck1: In all fairness to the Pens that season, Jagr missed 14 games and still lead the league in scoring and was a +25. If he had been in for those games the Pens would have had at the very least 14 more standings points (winning only half would be underestimating) thus putting them in a dead heat with the Caps at 102 points. The first game WAS a blowout, the rest were 1 goal games, hardly a blowout series.

Choking to me is not holding a series lead with a team that you shouldn't beat and then losing the series, it is when you are by far the better team and you lose. If the Caps would have lost to the Rangers this season I would have considered that a MAJOR choke.

The last time I remember the Caps choking, and I attribute the loss of the series more to Bruce Cassidy than the players, was when they blew the 2-0 to Tampa. We came back to Verizon and Cassidy from some unexplained reason changed the lines. That was a choke. Cassidy single handedly destroyed this team. We brought high paid free agent talent in and gave the team to a snot nose coach. Not just because he was straight from the AHL, but because he was too young too.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

@snakegriffin

And I dont think that will change this year either.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Fehr never played on the 4th... EVER... not in the playoffs or regular season.

Fehr played on the 3rd line until he got hurt.

Everyone cried about Fleischmann last year, wanted him out. He had 19 goals during the season this year. Fehr will get his shot at one of the top 2 lines. Lets all hope he pans out and becomes a top 6 winger.

Posted by: JSchon | May 29, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

And I still think going 7 with the Rangers is what ultimately led to us loosing to Pitt.

Even if we would have won the series against Pitt. we wouldn't have gone very far. You cant play that many 7 game series in the playoffs and expect to win the cup.

Chalk it up as yet another learning experience.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Diz, if we don't we don't acknowledge the past we are doomed to repeat it. Like we did this year.

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | May 29, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

If you really think that a collective denial of our team's history is the reason we lost this year then you have no idea what you're talking about. Thanks Dr. Phil but this isn't a divorce, this is a hockey. You're point would be valid only if both teams were playing with the same players/coaches. Which they are not, so your comment is irrelevant.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Snake, I am "we", not "they".

I had a season ticket package during the Hanlon era.

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | May 29, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

When they asked Ovie about the Pens curse over the Caps prior to their series, he replied "I don't no nothing about history".

Now he knows.

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | May 29, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

mrszilla: Thanks. You beat me to it. In a sports it is impossible to compare one year to another, or one decade to another, because of the turnover of personnel year to year. Let's acknowledge that the Pens have had some great history and the Caps have had some lousy history, but to blame this year's loss on some bad karma from ten years ago is utter poop.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 29, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

And further, the media is largely to blame in throwing this historical crap around. They're always trying to compare apples to oranges. A good current example is the Bears Calder Cup series. I read a report that stated that the Bears have won the Cup 9 times and the Moose have never even been to the finals. Very true. But what they failed to mention is that the Bears have existed for 71 years and the Moose have only been around 8 or 9 years. Duh.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 29, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

@hockeypuck1: What is your point? If you are a Pens fan you should be on your Pens sites or Red Wings sites. The reason I feel like there is a curse on us when it comes to the Pens is because I have to keep dealing with Pens fans. You organization has arguably choked more than ours as a whole because you had star studded teams for the entire decade of the 90s and only won the back to back Stanley Cups. You guys should have been a dynasty like the Red Wings. So choke on that.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

@hockeypuck1: If you are a Caps fan as you claim to be you wouldn't keep throwing negative crap around. If you are so disgruntled with the team stop watching them. My entire family on my pop's side is from Chicago and they had stopped cheering for the Hawks. Because they stunk? No. They stopped cheering or supporting them because Daddy Wirtz wasn't televising games, or paying to keep talent in town. Did my family stop enjoying hockey? No. They filled the void will Wolves games.

Not that my family likes to celebrate the death of a man but last season when Rocky Wirtz took over the Hawks (2007-08 season) they were finally on TV for a vast major of their games and he declared they would hold on to top talent. Now they are the toast of the town again. So, if you don't like the direction the Caps are going leave real fans alone. You can complain in this forum, of course, but to always be the black cloud spreading doom and gloom gets OLD.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

they can't troll Detroit boards because those Red Wings fans would cause them to cry. (personally, I find Chief at A2Y to be one of the finer, if more caustic, hockey bloggers around and like his work) Don't mess with the Red Wings blogosphere--they're the type that eat live penguins for breakfast for fun.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 29, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

One more thing.

I mentioned Greenie's poor play vs. Pens yesterday and got blasted by some of you fans for critisizing a guy who played with a "separted shoulder". Well, take a look at BB's interview above. If Green had been that badly injured I am sure Bruce would have said so. Instead, he said Green was "tired" and MAYBE had "mono". Sounds to me like BB is as disapointed in Green as I am.

Enjoy the weekend!

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | May 29, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Tess- "utter poop" is probably the best way to describe it. And yes, I do blame the media for blowing this out of proportion. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy.

fanohock1- I skimmed thru your hawks analogy but if I got the gist right- I agree. Honestly anyone who bemoans the "direction our team is going" is an idiot. We've made the playoffs the past two years after being in the bottom of the league one and 1/2 seasons ago. The direction appears to be onward and upward so I really don't understand the gloom and doom. There are a couple tweaks we can make but hello our team has been improving, and name one team in the entire NHL that couldn't be helped by one tweak here, one tweak there. No team is 100% perfect, if you can't handle that then you really should just stop watching sports or you'll have a heart attack.

What I didn't really get from your story was that they gave up on their team. Can't relate to that, but what can you do. I've had the Caps punch, I'll be a member for life.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

@mrszilla

"No team is 100% perfect"

Of course you are correct here... but man the Wings sure are close.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Cindy finally beat out Ovie in the TSN Power Rankings. not that it means anything, but I thought it humorous that Ovie was on top even though he hadn't played in 2 weeks.

Posted by: Greg S. | May 29, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Realted to my last post...

Then again San Jose sure was close to perfect for most of the year and look what happened there.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Diz-

Totally, probably as close as you can get. And while I'll say history doesn't mean anything bc they are different players etc- I am jealous of their dynasty. Feel like their fans have it so (or too) easy.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

We should get Antropov. He'll stand in front of the net and take abuse.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

fanohock1,

Dude, I have been a Caps fan for over 30 years. I have lived through the preceived chokes of the Caps and the good times. I hate the Pens as much if not more than anyone and while many of your points are valid, you really can't put the words "choke" and "only won back to back Stanley Cups" in the same sentence. I don't care how much talent a team has for any length of time, that is a good outcome.

With that said, the Pens lovers need to find the Red Wings blog and get out of here.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | May 29, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

@mrszilla: I can relate to giving up on your team in the same way I have given up on the Orioles. I still poke my head in on the standings but the last couple of seasons I have refused to pay to go to watch a team that doesn't have a chance of competing now or in the foreseeable future so long as the owner chooses to do business the same way. The games are on TV but they continue to put an inferior team on the field. I can be more forgiving of the Nats right now because although they are not an expansion team the way MLB had to do things in regards to them, they kind of came with the talent a team with an expansion draft line-up would have. The Nats still have a few passes from me, the Orioles, unless a new owner comes, or Angelos proves he is trying to compete for a championship.

I stick with the Caps because I love hockey, but I was also given a warning that the team would be dismantled and rebuilt. Ted stayed true to his words.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

@thiazzi

Even though I hate him I would totally take Hartnell in an instant for that same reason.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

The O's

Man talk about choke :-P

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Hartnell has Flyer taint, though.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

We need Antropov and Mikael Samuelsson this offseason. And some D man.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Id still take him. I think he is one of those players you hate unless he is playing on your team.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Hey, speaking of the Os, Orange Jesus (aka Matt Weiters) makes his debut tonight.

hockeypuck1, apparently you either don't remember, or your reading comprehension skills are shockingly poor, but it was reported here, in the print edition, and in numerous other outlets that Green had a seperated shoulder. A mild case of mono, however, may explain the illness he fought through in the first round.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 29, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

The thing is.. it isn't gonna happen. we have a better chance of landing Komisarek He is a UFA in July and the Habs have a streak of letting All star Blueliners go.

Here is to hoping he is wearing a Caps Jersey next year.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Hartnell's not for sale, but if he was, he'd be a great addition for the Caps. Certainly, he could fill the gritty, go-to-the-net Forward void that the team has. Add a guy like that, and a top flight defense-first D man, and the Caps are as good as anyone in the east.

Posted by: PensFan98 | May 29, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

CTCapsPhan: Not sure why I cannot put that they only won two Stanley Cups and choked when the had the talent in the 1990s in the same sentence. Every other organization that retained that kind of talent won multiple Cups in a row. Just in the last 30 years the Canadiens did it in the late 70's, the Islanders in the early 80's, and then Oilers in the mid-80's. The Pens were able to keep all of there players together in Pittsburgh but never managed to put together the streak the previous 3 star studded teams had. Free agency didn't hurt the Pens like it did other team because they were the team players wanted to play for because, well, they should have been winning championships. Their problem was they really never landed that stud goaltender. Tom Barasso's numbers are horrible. Career regular season GAA of 3.24 and Sve pct of 89.2, playoffs 3.01 90.2. If you look back at the regular season stats for the two years they won the Cup his GAA was over 3.5 and save pct below 90. Playoff stats were a little better but not the reason they won.

The Red Wings are impressive because they have been able to win their Cups with different coaches and different key players. The only players that have been there through most of them are their role players like Malty, Holmstrom, and Draper. Oh, and let's not forget their "weakest link" Osgood who was their starter for two of their championships 10 years apart.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

btw thanks CI for the transcript, much appreciated! and you might think Michael Landsberg is an idiot but he is totally correct about Bruce being adorable. He is like a teddy bear. Seeing him jumping up and down in excitement is really more satisfying than Ovie's celebrations bc Bruce saves it for the big moments. Hopefully we'll see a lot of that next year.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

No chance the Habs give up Komisarek. He was on the bench as an assistant coach for them when he was injured. They really like the kid.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

@thiazzi

Yeah yeah... people thought the same thing about Mark Streit and Sheldon Souray

They have a habit of doing this lately.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I predict the Wings in 6 again. Fleury will prove to be the reason they can't win a championship too. The other thing that will happen is Bylsma will finally have to make adjustments and will fail.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

P.S. Hey ... it's been nearly 20 hours since the last steroid update. Surely there's some news to report .... perhaps on how well Richard Thomas slept in prison last night, or maybe an expose' on "The Lost Childhood of Richard Thomas". Or something.

Posted by: PensFan98 | May 29, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

JSchon will need a change of undies if we land Komisarek, but I just don't see it happening.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

How many times do you think Datsyuk goes five hole on MAF before the TV announcers decry foul and accuse Pavel of cheating?

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

@thiazzi

Its totally possible IMO if they make the right offer.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Komisarek will demand the same money as a proven hard hitting defenseman with experience, and he has none. He brings nothing to our team but more PK attempts. He averages over 100 PIMs a year and he's not a fighter, too many minors in my book. I would like the see Stefan Kronwall develop into the hard hitting guy we need. He likes to freight train players just like his brother. There was a clip on youtube after we sent him down where he exploded on someone. He looks very similar to Niklas when he plays. We might have a diamond in the rough. It's just hard to sort through that during camp though because you never want players getting injured in camp and physical aspect of the game is where Kronwall may prove his worth. I believe he is still out but it was a scratch to his cornea or something because of a high stick, not a joint injury, or concussion. He unusually durable in that respect just like his brother too.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Dizzy, just once. After all, why don't those pesky Red Wings understand that Sid is supposed to win?!

I'm tempted to ask Lidstrom "How do you say 'bling bling!' in Swedish?" He's going for ring #5.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 29, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Dizzy1205: Hopefully Datsyuk and Lidstrom are back tomorrow. Even without them the Wings are going to score on him as easily as we did. Holmstrom won't let him see a thing on the PP either. The difference between the Caps and the Red Wings right now is the Caps think they are good enough to win a championship, the Red Wings know they are. That is the mental edge the Red Wings bring into the game. The Caps will begin to think that way too. They did against the Rangers, and went into the Pens series with that swagger too. As the injuries piled up I believe their confidence wavered.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Can we all agree to just ignore the self-righteous Penguin trolls? This is a group that associates the teams' success with some sort of personal self-satisfaction/self-worth. It's fairly obvious they have some immature need for attention and their accomplishments have not warranted such from people who know them. Thus, they come in here espounding some extremes they know will intentionally rile us up thereby causing a reaction/giving them attention. That their identity is so tied to the accomplishment of a hockey team that has no concern for them and attention comes from animosity is, when you think about it, incredibly sad. Perhaps, if they focused some of their attention on correcting their deficiencies that prevent them from becoming functional members of society, they would put themselves in a position to succeed and, thereby, gain the love of friends and family they so desperately crave. When we break it down, the root of any troll is anger and such anger springs from an awful homelife. Perhaps they blame themselves when their parents scream at each other or separate; perhaps they blame their inability to comprehend basic calculus on being distracted by Penguin successes when, deep down inside they know they don't get it because they just aren't as intelligent as they think. Sure, they can wrap themselves in some modicum of success by declaring themselves "the best" or "the most successful" at their jobs, but deep down, do the successful or best have to tell everyone they are the best or most successful? Yes, and then the success of that which they most strongly identify is revealed to be a fraud -- the result of a desperate league afraid to suffer the loss or movement of a franchise after the most protracted strike in sports' history; their owner was given the franchise where every other owner had to buy their's; their superstar was not won in a draft of chance but in a draft rigged so he would go to Pittsburgh thereby making Pittsburgh and Crosby the savior's of a league desperate for a hero and good publicity. That's right -- the LEAGUE built the Penguins and gave them Crosby. The League intervened, the Penguins are nothing more than built through the hands of Bettman and Bettman was able to shift and adjust rules to ensure the Penguins won. Mario and company were nothing more than puppets. When these trolls tell Cap fans and the fans of other teams of the Penguin's greatness, they are trying to convince themselves the Penguins' got to where they are fair and square, like every other team. But, deep down, they know the Penguins, like them, are frauds.

Posted by: Matt23185 | May 29, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Lidstrom will be playing tomorrow. Not sure about Pasha. reportedly, he's been seen in one of those walking cast boots. It may be precautionary, who knows. Ericisson, however, is out out, as he had emergency surgery (appendix) on Wednesday morning.

The thing with the Wings is even when the lose people, they have players waiting in the wings to plug those holes who are just as good.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 29, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1:
"Not sure why I cannot put that they only won two Stanley Cups and choked when the had the talent in the 1990s in the same sentence. Every other organization that retained that kind of talent won multiple Cups in a row. Just in the last 30 years the Canadiens did it in the late 70's, the Islanders in the early 80's, and then Oilers in the mid-80's. The Pens were able to keep all of there players together in Pittsburgh but never managed to put together the streak the previous 3 star studded teams had. Free agency didn't hurt the Pens like it did other team because they were the team players wanted to play for because, well, they should have been winning championships. Their problem was they really never landed that stud goaltender. Tom Barasso's numbers are horrible. Career regular season GAA of 3.24 and Sve pct of 89.2, playoffs 3.01 90.2. If you look back at the regular season stats for the two years they won the Cup his GAA was over 3.5 and save pct below 90. Playoff stats were a little better but not the reason they won."

Not really a valid rebuttal or comparison- unless those teams' best player dealt with cancer; back surgery; a self imposed sabbatical to recover from both of the above after coming back too soon from both- and ultimately an early (initial) retirement.

Can't really be objective- or well informed- and call that a choke job


Posted by: jp426 | May 29, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

The thing is.. Komisarek IS the type of player we need yes he gets called for beating on people in the crease. Those are the types of PIM's I can live with. Those are pretty good penalties to take because the opposition will get tired of getting beat on. Believe me I know from personal experience.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I won't deny that Mario went through he11 and all, but one player does not make a hockey team. This isn't basketball. The loss of Mario should not doom an entire fanchise. Particualrly not when that franchise has a wealth of highly talented players.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 29, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Diz,

I agree, I would rather get called for something like that vs. the stupid penalties our guys have been taking (I'm not a Semin-hater but he comes to mind as someone who keeps taking a ton of stupid penalties). We need to be more disciplined as a team and dole out punishment when it's actually useful to the team's goal.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Adding on to that- I think a lot of that comes from experience and being able to channel your frustration into useful ways. Reminds of me of Laich's (if I recall correctly) punishment of Cindy when he was in our crease. It was stupid to do that then because we were already down a man and that made it 5-3 (which we killed) but that kind of message sending is necessary. We just have to be smarter about when/how we implement it. I think they'll get there with more years under their belts.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

@mrszilla

Anyone who gets a delay of game penalty should be fined by the orginization next year. I just cant live with those.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

RedBirdie-

To play devil's advocate here for a moment one could argue that if you took Ovie out the heart of our team wouldn't be the same. To an extent I think if (Gd forbid) we were ever to lose him it would be a huge hurdle for our team to get over. I believe we have an extremely talented group of individuals, but even if you take away Ovie's goals he is still just an energy source to the whole Caps organization. The kind of heart he plays with can't be taught, and I think he pushes the Caps to play better. "Doom" is probably too strong a word, but I think the team would certainly suffer greatly.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

jp426: For a big man Mario was not durable at all. Yes, he did beat cancer and a I genuinely say congrats on that, I understand the fear that comes with that, I have CML. In the championship years he only played 26 games (91) and 64 games (92)and didn't even play in all of the the playoff games in 92. Even in years he played full seasons in 95-96 and 96-97, for Mario they were full seasons (70+ games), they didn't win a Cup. They were still littered with talent even when he was out of the line-up. They were a very potent team that became impotent come the championship rounds. They were undoubtedly underachievers. Mario was extremel talented but he was softer than Crosby.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Losses of Kozlov and Feds may be a blessing in disguise. They both would have looked for salaries equal to last year and simply weren't worth $6M+ at this point in their careers. An upgrade over Kozlov is needed on the 1st line and a 2nd line center as well. We now may have the cap space to at least fill one of those two gaps with a top FA. Andropov (if he's a FA) would be a nice compliment to Ovie and Backstrom (plus he's only 29).

On defense, it's unrealistic to expect the Caps to break in more than one (Alzner) rookie defensemen and contend. More likely they let Morrisson walk if he asks for a significant raise and sign a tough stay at home defenseman.

Posted by: wizfan89 | May 29, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Yes, more Antropov support!

Ovie/Backstrom/Semin
Laich/Antropov/Samuelsson

Do it!

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I still think we should take a chance on a one or two year deal with a player like Afineganov. He's fast as heck (which Ovi needs on his line) and has great hands. He has been in Lindy Ruff's dog house for years and is a UFA this season. He could be a steal right now because his numbers (because he was scratched or on the 4th line) wouldn't support a lucrative deal for him right now. We could probably get him for $2mil or less a season, any more, we pass.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

@thiszzi: Yeah, I like Samuelsson too, he could demand more money though. He plays the PP point on Detroit's 2nd unit, that's impressive.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

Yeah, I figure we could get both with the Fedorov-Kozzy money, though. Afinogenov wouldn't be bad either.. if he doesn't flee to Russia.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

please god no afinogenov. I think possibly a guy like chris neil (i think a FA) would do wonders for our team. Antropov would work out well i believe

Posted by: _stevo | May 29, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Still sad to see Kozzie and Feds go. Like BB said on TSN, I don't think our team needs that much adjustment. I'm sure some here will disagree.

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 29, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

antropov to the caps????omg no way
he stunk in to and played well since he didnt have a contract for next year. Sign him and we will have another Nylander clone........stop listing all the Euros that we need to sign unless they can play for a whole year.....ps good riddance to federorov koslov and brashearov all old and gone great news!!!!

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

Posted by: thiazzi | May 29, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

oh look, wendel is back....as worthless as a pens fans, but without a whole CrosbyLove

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 29, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

hey redbirdie...cram it up your nest hole

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

and nice to see you, too. Where have you been hiding all these months?

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 29, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

been following the Bears and enjoying the success that comes when an entire team gives 100% UNLIKE our caps who choked

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

How in the heck would Antropov be a Nylander clone. He's a friggin' giant and plays nothing like Nylander. Nylander's problem is BB doesn't like him. Tell me how the heck Nylander is supposed to put his typical numbers up playing with 3rd and 4th line guys? His best chance was when he played with Flash and Fehr and now most of us are ready to give up on those two due to their lack of production from January on. BB is a good coach, no doubt about it, but when you have a guy like Nylander that is a proven producer, and staying around because of his salary, you HAVE to find a line that works. He's been productive up to this season so it needs to be fixed. He was second on the team in scoring when he went down for surgery in 2007-08.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

a clone because like nylander he would be useless to the caps due to his lack of effort and grit on a regular basis

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

@wendel2: You know, you're a jerk. The Caps didn't friggin' choke. The damn Pens are headed to the SC finals and favored. Having a 2-0 lead in a series and heading on the road only to lose those 2 games is not a choke. Of course if the Bears don't win the Calder you will say it is because they don't give 100% and they choked too. I would love to see some of tough guys on the net in public. Yeah, I am one of those fans that fly off the handle when another "fan" trashes my team. Probably because I don't consider you a "fan" or anyone that really knows hockey if you can't accept that the Caps were eliminated by a better team (this season) which would not qualify as a choke.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

@fanhock
nylander doesnt deserve to play he had to earn his ice time and he didnt. That is bb's decision and the fact that u have a man crush on nylslander is your issue

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Andropov is 6 6" and has spent his career scoring goals within 10 feet of the goal. He's only 29 and clearly was unhappy in Toronto which showed after he was traded. I see no comparison with Nylander who is a smaller, craftier player who relies on his puckhandling and passing. I see no comparison and Andropov would probably cost the same as Kozzie who is 5 years older. I see Andropov as the final piece on the Ovie-Backstrom line.

Semin needs to play on the 2nd line with a topflight passing center. I don't see one on the current roster as Nylander is not the answer. Not sure who we could bring in to fill this void, but Feds simply is too old even if he re-signed to continue as 2nd line center.

Posted by: wizfan89 | May 29, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Nyles is either still healing or has lost a step. With his age I believe its the latter. I like the guy, and I think he can still play but on this team? I dont know.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

hey fanhock
i dont agree with u so that makes u a fan and me not??? lol get off your high horse and take your head out of its arse man. What makes me a tough guy? The bears are in the final win or lose they performed....the caps underachieved ----choked. U argure that u r the real fan well your post makes u look like an idiot

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes I wish there was a test about the Caps that you had to answer in order to be in here... that said-

Fanohock1- keep your cool, we all know you are a good fan/know what you're talking about. I might not agree with everything people say in here but I know whose comments to consider and whose not to. Don't let the latter rile you.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow, talk about a good conversation that has gone terribly, terribly wrong.

Posted by: superpaqman | May 29, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

lol,just notice the post's author first; it'll save you from wasting time on childish, antaqonistic bs.

Posted by: Max231 | May 29, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I must have missed the big negative thing that happened today or yesterday with the Caps. That normally be the only thing that would draw Wendel out.

Kudos to both the Bears and Stingrays.

Posted by: _Mark | May 29, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm just going to ignore this entire last exchange.

I don't think we need any huge tweaks to the lineup, either. I think BB's right on that. I think what we need is one, maybe two, more pieces, and that at least one of those pieces is going to come out of Hershey.

I'd like to see a big, bruising defenseman who can clean creases and clocks and dirty glass and ice if necessary. A little message-sending is good now and then. I'd also like to see another forward who's willing to crash the net - Fehr's got the physical tooks to do that, and if he can get the willingness, he'll do nicely in that role. When Fehr went to the net this season, red lights turned on and opposing goalies looked annoyed. Both good things in my book.

A big thing to keep in mind, though, regarding who comes back and who doesn't. We've got eight new contracts that kick in this year, and we're at the 50-contract limit. This means that some folks are going to get let go. I like Koz and Fedorov, but their departure would give us some cap headroom to play with, so it's both a blessing and a curse. We've got forwards in Hershey (boy do we) and we've got some needs that are most likely to be settled from outside.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 29, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't know that we will have any choice but to work through the season with Nylander. I liked his play before the injury and I hope that he can find his way back to at least being our #2 next year.

Posted by: _Mark | May 29, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Kittypawz,
I am with you and BB about the tweaks. Fehr showed on occasion that he could do the job. I would love to see him break thru with a better, more consistent year next year.

Posted by: _Mark | May 29, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

yea it got a little dark in here...sorry guys.

aaaaaanywho, I think we all have no other choice except to be (or at least try to be) optimistic about Nylander. Next year is his chance to shut up the critics or retire, so here's hoping he takes the opportunity to step up and remind us how good he used to be. I'm going to use the same cheery optimist attitude with jose, because he'll probably still here here too.

But all in all our core is excellent, I don't think we have much to worry/complain about.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 29, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

hey mark
u must be related to fanhock....u both say incredibly silly things that must trace back to your early days in the trailer park

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

wendel2: There you go, that's what I mean, if you were standing in front of me you wouldn't have the guts to say most of what you said. You are really enjoying the computer age. Many people around the NHL would totally disagree with our statement that the Caps underachieved. They went 7 games with the defending EC champions that have now returned to the Cup Finals. I guess Chicago underachieved too. The Blackhawks advanced to the 3rd round sure, but they got knocked out by the team going to the Cup finals, just like the Caps.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Osala is one of the players in the system who likes to play in front of the net. When he was brought up, he was used on the fourth line because of his size. It would be nice to see him on 2nd or 3rd line and see what he could do in front of the net. Don't know about his speed but he could definitely be a good screen .

Posted by: komapuk_vb | May 29, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

hey fan hock give me your number so the next time I'm in dc u can get out of the sanitarium for the afternoon we can meet face to face and I can tell u the caps choked. Are u as tough as u r stupid? dah if we disagree i beat u up... what a neandrantal u r

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Somewhat related to the FA/Nyles talk, my big worry about plugging the holes we have right now with just FA's is that we risk alienating the guys down on the farm, especially the Borque's, Beagle's and such who've been arround for a couple years and are looking for a long term look up with the big club, and might opt to leave and play somewhere they think they'll have a better shot.

That being said I don't think we can reasonably say we can fill the deficiencies on this roster with more youth (we have pleanty there already)

Posted by: superpaqman | May 29, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Brash for the fourth line. We need some one making big hits on the checking line. Besides we need someone w experience now that Feds and Kozzie are gone. And we can afford him w/o them as well.

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 29, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

wendel2: Again, I didn't say I'd beat you up I just said that you wouldn't have the guts to say what you say on hear to my face. Just because you make people mad with your arrogant attitude it doesn't mean we're crazy, or trailer dwellers. You probably rub people wrong every where you go because I don't have this much conflict in an entire week at work.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

By the way I noticed I used the wrong "here" I have the phone on ear right now. Contrary to what you believe wendel2 I am a relatively calm person, you just hide behind email, boards, and blogs and treat people in a completely different way than you would treat them in person. That is what's irritating. I'm done now, sorry everyone else.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

fanohock be assured i would have the same comments to u anywhere...but is that really the issue? People have differnet views on this blog..why so paranoid? You may not mean what u say but i do and am not afraid to voice them........scroll back and check who started the name calling.....it was u so rethink your diatribe about gutless bloggers

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

No, actually you made a rude remark to Redbirdie having something to do with a nest. Yes your arrogance behind a keyboard is exactly the issue. Get lost and have fun playing your video games tonight. I'm headed out with friends.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I need to change my underwear?

Posted by: JSchon | May 29, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

whatever fanhock maybe yap off at the bar tonight when it isnt your business and see what happens to u

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

wendel2: Redbirdie is a woman so your remark was inappropriate. If an arrogant man makes an appropriate woman, anywhere, I do will intervene. You obviously don't read many posts. I have CML so I don't drink or hang out at bars because I would end up spending my night with people like you. Log in with your x-box like my son does and meet up with your buddies and play war games now. Some of us did that for a living and have since retired.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I want to take a second to apologize to everyone else on here. I usually don't let people like wendel2 spin me up too much but he just got to me today. Someone break the ice and get the conversation back to hockey. Let's go Caps.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 29, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1 & all
for those that love to do 'what if's' with the roster and salary cap - here it is made easy: http://capgeek.com/ or http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator.php?Team=30 if you want to go straight to the caps
i wonder if players agents use this site to see what they can get for their clients?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | May 29, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

JSchon: I'm assuming, most here do I would imagine, that you change your underwear on a regular basis, "regular" being however you define it.

Florida weather being what it is, I don't wear that particular garment except on work days.

Back to your question - someone earlier today posted that if the Caps were to sign Komisarek, you'd instantly need to change your underwear. I guess that was a joke on their part. I've been following your year-long quest to get him in a Caps uniform; but, having read most of your posts, and realizing you are as ardent a Caps follower as they come, I doubt seriously your zeal for the club extends that far.

BTW, Ross sells 3-packs of briefs for like ten bucks, just in case. And Discover Card this month is running a 5% cashback on dept store charges. Just in case.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 29, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

fanohock redbird managed to speak her mind but you have to come to her defense like a white knight,,,lol she is a big girl so why are u so chauvinist to assume she needs your back up? Women dont need big boys like u helping they are equal after all...agin get of your high horse

Posted by: wendel2 | May 29, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

*shakes head* Ooooh boy, and the offseason has just started. Anywho, I'm going to the game next Saturday in Hershey. Anyone else?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 29, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

wendel2: My one daughter is a doctoral candidate in clinical psychology. If you pass along your email, I can get her in touch with you and maybe we can get you the help you so obviously need.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 29, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

@jmu
You know I'll be there...that's a given. So I guess you didn't get the job with Herco, eh?

Posted by: tess2201 | May 29, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

tess, of course! No, I'm working at JMU for now. Eventually I'm going to try and get a transfer to the DC area or back home to Canada, but until then, I'm getting industry experience and I've got a job, which is more than a lot of the kids I graduated with can say.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 29, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1: No need to apologize. It's not your fault they dropped wendel2 on his head and subsequently disowned him because he was a sad waste of space. Sadly, his sad life continued and he was subsequently by any woman that got near him. Apparently, his inability to realize that talking AT a woman doesn't exactly endear him to them.

@wendel2: It's been pointed out to you repeatedly. The Capitals didn't choke. They stayed in the game for as long as they could, even beating back to tying up the series with the Penguins. For you to even breathe the same air as anyone on here and believe for a second that you have the b@11s to say what you say to people online in person? You're sadly overexaggerating your manliness. Go back to playing your World of Warcraft. Sick sack.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | May 29, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

@tominfla

I don't shop at Ross, Uptons, Kohls, KMart, Bradlees, Sears, JCPenny, Trak Auto, TJ Maxx or Walmart for underwear.

All I know is that Wendels underwear is too tight.

Posted by: JSchon | May 29, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Tom, I (and probably others) did not need to know your commando schedule. :)

How about the Stingrays winning 5-0 tonight to go up 3-1 for the Kelly Cup?

Posted by: _Mark | May 29, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

_Mark, I didn't realize they played tonight. I thought it was tomorrow! Whatever case, go 'Rays!!!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 29, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

whos going to be that new asst coach?

Posted by: sporttraveler | May 29, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Caps better have Nikita Kashirsky on their starting roster next season! Go Rays Go! One more win!

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | May 29, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

I definitely don't think we choked, the team just ran out of gas, and the problems we had been able to win in spite of came back to bite us in the butt in Game 7.

I do agree that it seems less and less of a possibility that Nylander will ever be worthy of playing time again. At least to the point that we'd be counting on him to be our 2nd line center.

Osala is a guy I want to see more of, if he develops into what I'm hoping he will, he might be a great fit on one of the top 2 lines as a net presence and someone who will bang a little and win battles on the boards.

There's definitely some fat we can start thinking about cutting. We'll see how it all shakes out come training camp.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | May 29, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Nylander did not have much of a year... we can all agree on that, and HE probably does as well. Right him off, though? I say keep all options open. He does have talent, and just "willing" the boys in Hershey to be ready to replace him won't happen. They have to take it from him by proving they are capable for more than just a couple of adrenaline rush days in the NHL. Can they handle the mental grind? Clark is taking some hits, too, and I think unfairly. He has had two injury-plagued seasons in a row, and many are basing opinions on his recent stats only. He is not that old and not that far removed from a 30 goal season alongside OV. Remember? Again, keep all options open - see what he brings to camp. A healthy "Chris Clark type" is what many are calling for - grit and a crease pest on the 2nd or 3rd line. If he is healthy, GMGM need look no further to fill this void in the team.

Posted by: gonchpup | May 29, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl: Saturday, June 6th? I'll be there with bells on :)

And ... how did this get to an underwear discussion? Man, that is really more than I need to know about people's unmentionables.

We didn't underachieve this year, I don't think. I do think the cards were kind of stacked against us in the Pens series - nobody likes to talk about officiating calls, but it was pretty one-sided a lot of the time. Of course, Game 3 may have had more to do with Kelly Sutherland being a boob on skates, but I digress. And it is sort of nice to expose our weaknesses so that they can be addressed.

I also can't help but think there's something to the comment about the League constructing the Penguins. It sure seems like it, as conspiracy-theorist as it sounds ... sometimes what you see really is what you get. But not always.

@superpaqman: Bourque is still an RFA, which means that the club still has final say in where he goes until he goes UFA. But you're right - I wouldn't fault him for going somewhere that'll give him a longer look with the big club. I also think he's worth a long look up top, especially with Kozlov gone. (Ovechkin/Backstrom/Bourque? Hm.) Bourque's a very enthusiastic forechecker, which is something we don't have enough of.

@komapuk_vb: Agreed, although I'd like to see Osala get a little more defensive responsibility too.

@whoever said we need to keep Brash: Nah. His stat line for the regular season was 1-3-4,-6, and 0-0-0, +0 in the playoffs. He also took a lot of penalties. I think we can do better - hell, bring up Quintin Laing :) I'd rather have the big, bruiser D-man, honestly. Don't get me wrong, I love Brash, I really do. But ... I don't think we have room for him, here, not with what we've got down on the farm.

I don't advocate pulling too many guys from free agency. I think ShaMo walks, Juice stays, and we get a bruiser D-man for the top line. McPhee is not going to make too many big purchases, not right now, not with Semin and Backstrom and a possible cap drop looming on the horizon. Kozlov's cap hit is replaced by a full season of Pothier, so cancel-out there. I wouldn't be surprised to see McPhee throw Aucoin into the fire on the second or third line and see how he does, then pick up a rent-a-center at the trade deadline if need be.

In goal ... I think we go Varly/Theo because Theo can play enough games to offset any lingering injury/stamina issues Varly might have. Johnson seems likely to go, but I can see a scenario where he wouldn't. Machesney is almost certainly gone (he's UFA at the end of this year). Neuvirth is likely tops in Hershey, but I don't know who his backup is yet. That's going to depend on how Dan Dunn and Braden Holtby do in development camp and training camp.

Mind you, I'm just musing and probably talking out my ass a little. We'll see what happens. I do know for sure that we have to dump a minimum of eight contracts by July 1.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 29, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Caps don't just rely on the Bears to fill the vacancies created by Kozlov & Fedorov. While the Hershey bunch is great, their AHL success does not immediately translate into the equivalent NHL success. It takes time to grow into a new role.

Do you think they will go after a veteran defender and a gritty forward now that Feds and Kozie are leaving? Guerin & Kunitz made a HUGE difference to the Pens making and then succeeding in the playoffs. I worry about the Caps not going after similar acquisitions.

Posted by: caraveli | May 29, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli: I don't think we've got the room under the cap to do both, honestly, not with Nylander still under contract. If I have to pick one, I'd rather have the D-man.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 29, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

If Erskine decides to play next season as he did in the playoffs, I'm feeling much better about our defensive corps as it stands. He really stepped it up and established his roll. Even the one-most-picked-on (Schultz, for you non-bloggers here) has more potential than most admit. Many simply pick on the guy without acknowledging his strong points. The coaching staff obviously sees something in him, and feel they can polish out the mistakes. He is not a bone-crushing defender, but he does think, stays on his feet (except that memorable gaff against the Rangers... you got me on that one) and is pretty good finding his outlets. Keep Jurcina, hope it's Alzner's year to come up, and with Pothier and Poti, you know you've got capable D. Oh... and that guy named Green!!!!

Posted by: gonchpup | May 29, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup: I agree with most of that, though I'd like to have someone who can clear the crease. I think having a different asst defensive coach will do a lot, though.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 29, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Erskine! I think he could be that goal-clearing defenseman. I only saw glimpses of it during the regular season, but saw a bit more in the playoffs. This new defense coach they'll be looking for, might add something different to the mix... different pairs, different priorities, different responsibilities, etc...

Posted by: gonchpup | May 29, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

@hockeynightincanada

Nikita K. is hot for the Rays this series. Can he step up to the Caps immediately or should he go to Hershey next year?

In any case, he'll add to the total of Russians for the Caps (even though he left Russia at Age 17, attended Georgetown Prep HS (just outside DC), played Division III College hockey, and signed with the Rays with his college season was done.)

His life's a great story (and he's less than a month older than my first born).

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me or has anyone noticed they moved up the Stanley Cup playing schedule as soon as the Wings finished off their series? Even non-Wings fans have been commenting on Yahoo, wondering if this schedule is fair, given the injury situation with the Wings. I think that if Crosby and/or Malkin were injured, I don't think Bettman would have had the schedule changed.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Short of jumping on the Penguin's/Bettman conspiracy theory, one can't help but be amazed how nicely everything has fallen in place for the Pens. And the assist goes to.....

Posted by: gonchpup | May 30, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

@gonchpup

It's amazing how things have fallen in place for the Pens. (I see you still have Gonchar's name as part of your handle even though he left the Caps.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

The "Gonchar" thing began with my habit of naming my dogs after hockey players, beginning years ago with a pup I named Gretzky. Dual reason with the current name, Gonchar - the second being the Russian meaning and the fact that I taught ceramics for a number of years. One of my students was a foreign-exchange from Siberia, and she filled me in on the coincidence. The tie to the Pens is a bit awkward, but I'm sticking with the name because Gonch the dog was an awesome beast!

Posted by: gonchpup | May 30, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

kittypawz, Excellent! I'm excited, even if Section 211 is pretty much the only seats left.
And while you're right essentially about CBo's status, if we don't extend a qualifying offer* to him or any of our RFAs by 5pm on June 29th, they immediately become unrestricted free agents and can talk to whomever they want. I think we'll see a lot of draft day chatting between McPhee and the other GMs. We're not going to be able to retain them all and we might as well try and get some value in return for their rights.
*A QO to CBo would be $696,667/year for 1 year, if my understanding of the math is right. (CBo, Joudrey, Morin, Cheez and possibly Kronwall have to be offered a 10% raise, the rest except ShaMo only 5%. We don't have to offer ShaMo anything more than he's getting now, but I'm not sure we can offer him less) A QO doesn't have to be any more than a year.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 30, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and capgeek.com. Its like Christmas every day if you like the front office/contract stuff.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 30, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl - I will be at the Bears game next Saturday! We'll have to meet up somewhere. :-)

Posted by: irockthered | May 30, 2009 2:26 AM | Report abuse

LET'S GO RED WINGS!!! =)

Posted by: rachel216 | May 30, 2009 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

The headline from the Winnipeg Free Press article linked by Tess is one of the worst headlines ever.

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I see my comment on Fedorov and the KHL has been deleted. Does someone want to explain to me why that has been done?

Posted by: dwollkind | May 30, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: rachel216 | May 30, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

@gonchpup: Personally, I think that if you look at them since the lockout and look at all three of their series this year, anyone who doesn't see that pretty much all the cards have dropped their way in the last four years has their head stuck in the sand. Read that as you will, and whether you call it phenomenal luck, fate, or tinkering depends on your disposition.

You know what they say - once is chance, twice is coincidence, but three times is a conspiracy. Just sayin'.

@jmucapsgirl: I see what you mean. There is a lot of talent in Hershey that could be on the table at draft day, and if the Bears can take the Calder this year, that just makes their value go up.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 30, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

@gonchpup: Hmm. You could be right about Erskine, or JUrcina might be able to do the same thing. Those are the two that I think have the physical tools, if they could just get the attitude. Who knows? I'm not paid to coach the Capitals, nor do I run their front office :)

And yes, I do think having a new defensive coach might help.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 30, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

@rachel:
Did you talk you folks into a trip to Hershey for the finals next weekend? Last chance to see Neuvy before summer! :)

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

kittypawz, And not just in Hershey, but here too. If the big, bruising d-man isn't UFA, why not trade a couple of young d-men, say Schultz & Lepisto for him? Or if somebody you like looks to go early in the 2nd round, why not see if the Lightning remember that you're allowed to have dmen on your roster?
Personally, I think most if not all our forwards in Hershey & SC will get offers. Morin has been an absolute beast for SC during their run and could crack the lineup in Hershey next season. I think they let Pokulok walk for sure, unless they can trade him for something.
Excited for both games tonight! Stingrays game starts at 7:05, then Bears at 8:30. For those who are interested, there is a audio feed for the Rays game @ stingrayshockey.com. And the Bears, as always, are on sportsjuice.com

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 30, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

And there's a Koharski reffing the Bears series. Crap.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 30, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl: I think I'm going to go ahead and pick up video of the bears on ahllive.com.

LOL on the Bolts comment. :) Very true. I think several of the guys could be trade bait.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 30, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

kittypawz, I thought about getting the video, but I forgot I've got a bachelorette party to go to, so I'll be checking the scores on my phone all night.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 30, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl: Awwww crap :( That sucks.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 30, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

@jmu:
Have fun. And be sure to have all the girls at the party yell GO BEARS right at 8:30!

@kittypawz: I'll be watching on ahllive too. There was a rumor that one of the local (Harrisburg) tv stations would show the game but I guess that didn't pan out.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

tess, I might. Most of them are from south of Hershey anyways. Might be a few Bears fans in the group.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 30, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"fanohock redbird managed to speak her mind but you have to come to her defense like a white knight,,,lol she is a big girl so why are u so chauvinist to assume she needs your back up? Women dont need big boys like u helping they are equal after all...agin get of your high horse"

Because my awesome birdie self was at baseball last night and fanhock got a little sick of you disparaging me when I'm not around to defend myself.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 30, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

So I'm gonna take some flak for this, but I think GM needs to evaluate trading away one of our two young goalies for some young offensive talent. It doesn't need to happen during the offseason, but it needs to happen sometime while they're still young and can pull a pretty penny. GMGM has a tendency to wait a bit too long to trade his stars, unless he's liquidating the team (and I like what he's done for the most part with the new one).

Also, I still think Varly is too aggressive. The Pens figured that out in game 2 and that's why Sid was crashing the net and scoring open net goals. They came up short in 2 but they'd figured it out at that point. Hopefully he can work on his English and Prior can show him when to be aggressive and when not to be.

Posted by: Raber | May 30, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup

On naming dogs for hockey players,my brother in law named a dog he used to have, Jagr. (He's a Pens fan since he lived in P'burg for his HS years.) He named his cat, Lemieux. (She was a rather mean cat.)

On Gonchar, we used to have a family in our neighborhood with that last name (at the same time that Sergei played with the Caps). The father was named Allen (not typical Russian name) but I figure they must have come over from Russia a few generations ago. So, I have figured out that the Russian form of "Harry Potter" would be Genrikh Gonchar. (Hey, that name has a better ring in Russian.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I think the reason everyone messes up the spelling of Fedorov is the fact that in this country, the first thing we think of when we type "Fed" is "federal" and, given that the 5th character of the name is an "r", no wonder we make that error. I've done it myself, unless I catch myself in time. Although, in reality, Fedorov, essentially means "son of Theodore", with Fedor being the Russian equivalent of Theodore. (The "e" would be umlauted so the name Fedor could also be transcribed as Feodor.) (So, Josip Fedorov would be the Russian equivalent of Jose Theodore.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

anyone watching the game? GO WINGS GO!!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

orpik is such a cheap punk. nice call bettman

Posted by: _stevo | May 30, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Nice hooking on Hossa no call - Go Wings baby

@steveo - totally agree...orpik is an a**

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

LOL at least Orpik doesn't wear visors like Stuart who is a PUNK. If you're gonna play like that, at least take the visor off and be a MAN.

Posted by: joek443 | May 30, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Yeah baby!!!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

hahahaha Hossa. there's your visor right there orpik

Posted by: _stevo | May 30, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

What a wacky goal! I almost feel sorry for MAF!

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

LMAO @ Hossa

If the Pens win the Cup this time as I believe they will, will he come back to the Pens next year?

what a turncoat.

Posted by: joek443 | May 30, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Shocker...a Pens fan on the Caps blog. I am floored!

Loved Bettman stating that the back to back games were envisioned a year ago...really...is that why the previously released the 5 June game 1 date. What a joker.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

just because I don't agree with petty fans like you, doesn't mean I'm a Pens fan. I was right there at section 201 of the Ole Caps Center when Hunter beat Hextall to win the most dramatic/important game of the Caps history.

As I said the other day, I'm pulling for the Pens because they beat us fair and square. It always feels better to lose to the eventual Cup Champs than some team that goes to lose in the next round. Then you'll know for sure that you're very close to winning yourself again judging by how close that series was.

Posted by: joek443 | May 30, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame Hossa - he wanted to play for a team that he thought could win the Cup ... he wanted to be a Wing. I actually admire him for taking less money to pursue his dream. He didn't break any commitments to the Pens *cough*Huet*cough*, he just followed his heart. Good for him. Hopefully it pays off!

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

--Boo-- ,

Hossa only signed for one year. I bet you he'll go where the money is next year. He's an opportunist, plain and simple. It wasn't like the Pens were far off from winning, they made the finals last year.

You don't bolt your team for the team that just beat you in the finals. That's the definition of a turncoat.

Posted by: joek443 | May 30, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

@joek443

Apologize...I can see your logic.

BTW...I don't consider myself petty...I was at the same game brother. Been a fan since Yvon.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see that cross check by Crosby to Zetterburg's side of the head in front of Osgood in the first period? It was on the same shift that Crosby laid a nice check on Zetterburg, but finished the shift with a very dirty play. Zetterburg was leaning over, so his head was lower than Crosby's shoulders, and Crosby diliberatly aimed for his head...

I can't believe that was no penalty. Oh wait, I can beleive it. I forgot its Crosby, the clean quite Canadian saint boy.

That son-of-a-bit**. I give credit where credit is due. But that was another sucker punch type play, even worse cause it was with the stick.

Posted by: floms | May 30, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Thats two dumb penalties by the wings. Pens have too much talent for that.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

joek443:
Then why didn't he stay with the Pens for the $$? I suppose we'll see soon what he does in the off-season but, FWIW, I don't think the fact that he left makes him a turncoat. He was free to go.

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

No offsides there...only about 5 feet.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

is tyler kennedy the "pigman" that kramer saw in the hospital on that seinfeld episode?

Posted by: _stevo | May 30, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

@_stevo

Agree with you about Orpik being a punk. he did all kinds of stuff to Semin in the series where the Caps played them. Slash in the face that required stitched in Game 1, trips, etc. Don't know if Orpik (or Orprick, as I call him) was responsible for the sprained thumb or not.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

That play from Malkin to Satan should have been a goal...that was really close. Satan botched it...

Posted by: floms | May 30, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Wings are missing Datsuk this game...

Posted by: floms | May 30, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

No penalty on Cook? I'm starting to beleive the conspiracy now..

Posted by: floms | May 30, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

cooke seems to be taking lessons from orpik on high/cheap hits.....how was that not a penalty?

Posted by: _stevo | May 30, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Nice noncall on Cooke. Why have a whistle?

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

This officiating looks like the Caps Pens series. BS.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | May 30, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

I think the fact that they moved up the Stanley Cup Finals by a week when Detroit has so many guys out is evidence of a conspiracy. (If the situation were reversed, like if Crosby and Malkin were both out with injuries in Round 3 and advancing, they would not move up the series. They would keep the original date and let them heal up first.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Well, at least they didn't call that trip on Crsoby behind the net. Just saw the replay and that was a trip. Maybe they let it go as a make up.

Posted by: floms | May 30, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

stevo:
I've always thought that he looks like Chaka in the postseason.

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Yeah BABY!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!!!!! -1 for Crosby!! Haha

Posted by: floms | May 30, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

HUGE goal. Franzen is a MONSTER. Does anyone know what round he was drafted? Is he one of those no name guys?

Posted by: floms | May 30, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Detroit!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

@boo

haha i didnt think of that. i was just always set as him looking like numerous farm animals

Posted by: _stevo | May 30, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

3rd I think

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know how the Hershey Bears are doing? Seems a lot of our posters have gone up to Hershey.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

stevo:
Ya, a playoff beard does not work for him - he looks WAY better during the regular season. I thought about the Chaka thing during the playoffs last year (didn't even recognize him at first!); now with the movie coming out, it is all the more fitting! :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Moose 3 - Bears 1
Late in the second period.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
They are away this weekend.

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Here is a real time scoreboard on the Calder Cup FYI

http://stats.theahl.com/stats/schedule.php

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Sounded like several of them talked about going up to Hershey although JMU is at a bachelorette party tonight. (My own kid is at a HS graduation party.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

@tess2201

Thanks for the updates.

@ralCapsFan

Thanks for the real time scoreboard.

I had checked out the Caps message board and it seems that our Bears are taking lessons from our big boys -- getting penalized. (Okay, Bruce, next time our boys start taking stupid penalties, they need to work on how to accomplish their objective in a legal fashion -- like in "using their legs" to catch up to the guy they're trying to take the puck away from, to use an example.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
Ya, I'm going too, but not til next weekend. :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Bears have taken way too many penalties tonight although most have been legit. Except the bench minor for too many men was totally bogus. Also Neuvy stopped a panalty shot. Bears only goal was a shorty by Giroux from Aucoin.

FYI, I'm watching the game on ahllive.com (it's PPV)

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Nope, not going to Hershey myself. Will still be involved with summer swim team. (It's my younger daughter's absolute last year of doing it. After that, it's off to college.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Yeah BABY!!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
Not to worry - I've got a feelin that Caps hockey will be back before we know it!

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Also, Stingrays and Alaska tied 2-2 in OT

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Never heard of J. Abdelkader until now but great he scored a goal for Detroit.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Goonitz at it again

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

@ralCapsFan,

Love your term for Kunitz. (Meanwhile, Red Birdie and I had independently coined the term Orprick for Orpik. My husband likes the term Oprick.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

aces beat Stingrays 3-2 in OT

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I hear that the literal translation for Kunitz is 'weasel'. He certainly is one.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

Cant take credit for it. Buddy coined during the series when we saw his 'style' of play

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

@uncatim

Sorry to hear that news.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Tim:
I trust you are cheering for the Wings?!? :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Cheering for the Wings & Oskar Osala!

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

My husband is convinced we need to pick up a goon or two in time for next year's playoffs. A goon to counteract the Orpricks and Goonitzes on Pittsburgh or any other physical team we encounter. Seems that playoff hockey is different than regular season hockey. Not as many penalties are called. So the skilled goons can get away with more.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Goal Osala!

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Osala makes it 3-2 in the 3rd

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Tim:
LOL!!! Was trying to figure out what Osala had to do with the Wings until I read Tess's post. Go Bears!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
He's not a fighter, but Staffan Kronwall plays a very physical game for the Bears just like his big brother Nik does for the Wings.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Boo!: I took so much garbage from friends & family in Pgh that I am rooting for the unnatural flightless fowl to be utterly humiliated.

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Nice job, Oscar! Will he be the physical winger we need?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Sid Crosby is part of the genus Eudyptula which means "good little diver" which is part of the family "Spheniscidae", which is the scientific name for Penguins.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Giroux!

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Aucoin!

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Tim:
I got your back - GO WINGS GO!!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Awright Giroux! Hershey had tied it up! The comeback kids strike again!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Go Bears!!!!!!!!!!!!
Giroux!!!!!!!!!
3-3

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Now it is goes back to Giroux.

"Good little diver"!! That is hilarious!

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Giroux!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Crosby is SUCH a pri##. Nice sportsmanship. Bettman must be so proud.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

@uncatim

"Good little Diver" -- that really and truly is the translation for the scientific name for a genus of Penguins. I got a great kick out of that.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Nice love tap by Crosby after the horn. He's such a baby.

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Redwings. One down three to get.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Eudyptulae have officially lost Game 1 of the SC finals. Great job, Wings!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh Osala!

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Osala again!!!!!!!
4:26 left, BEars lead 4-3

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Osala AGAIN!!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Thanks CapsFan75. That scientific info will cetainly find its way back to my people in pgh.

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Bears on PK for the rest of regulation.

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Now 5 on 3 for remainder, goalie can still be pulled. Cross your fingers, Bears fans!

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Bugger! What's the audio link for the Bears?

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Moose just tied it up with 2 to go

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Tied 4-4. Bears still on 5 on 3. Sloan still on 1st leg of double minor.

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Moose tied it up.

www.sportsjuice.com

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Still so sad that the Houston Aeros couldn't beat Manitoba, so the away Bears games would be where I live! The local hockey bar was showing all of the away playoff games (showing the internet feed on a projection screeen) Oh well, maybe next year!

Posted by: suzannepdc | May 30, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

OT

Posted by: uncatim | May 30, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

And we're going to OT...

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Tess!

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

@Tess

Ditto...thanks!...listening to the feed now.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

what are they laying a new sheet of ice?!? come on, already!!

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

gotta love laing - no spleen fear there!

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

ooo-sa-la? i thought it was ah-sa-la?!?

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

or aahs-a-la? anyone?!? :-) regardless, osala's the madhatter - come on, oskar!

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Bears won.

Posted by: fnralch | May 30, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

i mean, giroux is the madhatter!! ;-) YAY BEARS!!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Giroux: hat trick, Osala: two. Unbelievable comeback.

Posted by: fnralch | May 30, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Giroux baby...just scared my neighbors with the whoop on the goal!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Boo:
It's OOO sa la

Go Bears! Go Giroux!

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

tess:
not sure if i spelled that phonetically correctly - radio dude said ooo-sa-la as in moose (guess that is more ewww-sa-la?). i thought it was more of a proper O or ah sound. make sense?

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Any news on when the Hershey game will restart. The ahl feed has not updated since the end of regulation.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Giroux and Osala had a great day

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

Listening now...feed has been going off and on for me.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Boo: I'm pretty sure it's OH sa la (sounds like the OH in OMG!)

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Bears win in OT!!!

B-E-A-R-S
Bears
Bears
Bears

Will anyone else be at game 3 in Hershey?

Posted by: NatyBG | May 30, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Ooh la la. Osala! Okay, it was Giroux with the winning goal. But still Osala had a good day. Oo la la, Osala!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

When they do the play calls on the replays, the voice does not come through on the feed. We just have to listen to John breath until he talks again.

Posted by: _Mark | May 30, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Sportsjuice is like that. When JW goes to commercials or does audio replay soundbites, sportsjuice goes silent.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Antropov will not come to DC. Not that he wil reject us. We will reject him. He's the type of player Gabby and GMGM hate and we're not gonna pay whatever ridiculous amount of money he wants for a big guy with a decent wrist shot and ZERO skating ability. Samuelsson is a possibility, but he'll probably command too much money for what he is and will probably go back to Detroit anyway. I've heard an almost positively flase rumor that we are looking into the possibility of a trade for Kovalchuk as well as the fan-constructed rumor of a Pronger trade. I think that by now we all know to trust GMGM and his infinite wisdom and I find it hard to believe that he would go through a trade deadline and 2 summers with only one FA signing.

Posted by: wis193 | May 30, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

@--Boo--

Funny the announcer would say OO-sala. We can say Oo-la-la, Osala cause he did good.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

ralCapsFan:
Game over - Bears win!

Tess:
Makes sense - thanks! :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

That is why it sounds like the feed cuts on and off.

Posted by: _Mark | May 30, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

@ Everyone

I am a novice on Bears (although did take one game there this year) and know some players:

Q: Bob Woods in post game conference just referred to Osala part of the 4th line? Is that true? Thought he was more of a 1st or 2nd line guy who is big and goes to the net a bit?

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 30, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
It was odd, unless I misheard him? Anyway, ooh-la-la is right! :-) Great hockey day, eh?

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

BTW, some people in Hershey are of the opinion that Bob Woods is the frontrunner for the asst coach position with the Caps. He and Bruce have a pretty long history. And Woodie was a defenseman when he played so he knows the position well.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Only thing that didn't go right was the fact that the Rays lost.

But great day otherwise. The Bears won and the Detroit Red Wings beat the Pens.

Can we now start an Ooh-la-la cheer for Osala when he becomes a Cap permenently?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 30, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

ralCapsFan
Bears #1 line is Giroux-Mink-Aucoin. For most of the season Osala was on the "rookie line" with Perreault and Bouchard and they were usually the #3 line.
In the postseason Woodie has switched up the lines a bit and Osala has played with a variety of linemates. But yea, he does go to the net alot.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 30, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
I dunno - gives me flashbacks of the Rangers Sasson commercial ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjntNHHUs0
;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 30, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Pens got outplayed.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 31, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

@--Boo--

I do remember the ads for Sasson jeans (not necessarily the one with the Rangers). (Gee, I'm realy that old!)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

The thing is.. it isn't gonna happen. we have a better chance of landing Komisarek He is a UFA in July and the Habs have a streak of letting All star Blueliners go.

Here is to hoping he is wearing a Caps Jersey next year.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | May 29, 2009 11:43 AM |

get out of here.

he wants 6 mil. are we going to pull what CHI did with campbell?

Posted by: richmondphil | May 31, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

Couldn't happen to a more deserving team!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

@tess

Thanks...solid as usual.

Wish I could be there Sat. for game 3 but will be on travel...my buddies will be though. Go Bears!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 31, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

What? To our team or to Chicago?

Komi ain't an All Star blueliner, and i'll take him if he wants his price, but if these rumors are correct, he wants 6 mil/yr+ which is crazy.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 31, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Oh, you must be referring to the Pens.

I called the Wings at the start, and I stick with them.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 31, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

Totally agree...although Komisarek may be the type of player we need on D...when I saw his asking price (or rumored) of 5-6 mil per...figured he is out of our picture for a number of reasons.

Having said that...am counting down til when GMGM makes a splash with a trade in the next 5 weeks or so.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 31, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

And when I say his price, I mean what he is worth, not the price he wants.

hah.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 31, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

Understood...will be curious if the economy has any affect on salary negotiations this summer

Posted by: ralCapsFan | May 31, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

In all the talk on personnel changes, everyone wants to move Aucoin, Bourque, and Giroux onto the Caps and trade off Fleischmann, Fehr, Schultz and Semin.

Aucoin and Giroux are older than the guys we want to get rid of. Bourque is barely younger than most of that group and is a month older than Schultz and is not quite two years younger than Semin and Fleischmann. Is there any reason why our older Hershey guys show more promise than the Caps' young guys that people want to get rid of?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

NatyBG: I will also be at the Giant Center on Saturday to root for the Bears.

Posted by: uncatim | May 31, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

I'll be there Saturday as well, section 211.

Tess, would French take over Woody's job as head coach of Hershey if he came up here?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 2:44 AM | Report abuse

I always get sucked into reading these comments for 5 minutes or so before snapping out of it....then I laugh then the laughter turns to genuine confusion....then the question "why does anyone think that their opinion matters?" comes up.
Can anyone tell me why they say things like "this is who will be leaving", or "here are the projected lines"? I mean we're all JUST FANS.
NOBODY is an authority here(and if you think you are then show me some validation)Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but would it kill you to say "in my opinion"? Instead of acting a fool please... thank you

Posted by: broud0 | May 31, 2009 3:57 AM | Report abuse

GO RED WINGS TONIGHT!! 2-0 lead!! Stupid Pens!!! ;)

Posted by: rachel216 | May 31, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know why Hershey gets game 3, 4, and 5 at home? Doesn't Manitoba have home ice advantage?

Posted by: rachel216 | May 31, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

@rachel216

The arrangement is like they've done in the Baseball World Series for years. The team with the Home field advantage plays games 1 & 2 at home. The other team plays 3, 4, and 5. The first team ends up with games 6 & 7 at home.

Seems the AHL is consistent with baseball but the NHL isn't.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

So, here is something I noticed in the game last night. There seemed to be quite a few Pens fans at the Joe last night based on the volume of the cheers on the one Pens goal.

If Detroit is such a "HockeyTown" why were there so many none Wings fans in attendance? I would think a Hockey Town would be able to keep them out.

No denying Wings are a good team, but I get tired of the self indulgent titles given to fans such as Hockey Town and America's Team with the 'Boys.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | May 31, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

@rachel216

Agree with you. Go Wings. Get a 2 game cushion. (And please do better in the Igloo than the Caps did.)

Our household is rooting for the Wings. My husband also dislikes the Pens more than he did. Thinks Crosby is a douchbag.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

If Brashear was suspended a game for his pre-game love tap, surely crosby will sit for his post-game antics vs. Maltby!? Naaah...

Posted by: uncatim | May 31, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

The reason the bears get games 3,4,5 is to cut down on the travel.Most AHL trips are by bus with the exception of the finals. Osala is 3 or 4th liner with the bears he is still learning and alot of times he forgets to go in front of net.

Posted by: cocorules | May 31, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Tess, would French take over Woody's job as head coach of Hershey if he came up here?
Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 2:44 AM
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JMU-- Since you posted that in the wee hours of the morning I'm assuming the party was a success. :)

As for Mark French, I don't really know too much about him. When Bruce was moved up to the Caps and Woodie became the Bears head coach, that left us without an assistant for a couple weeks. They hired Frenchie after he was let go from a CHL team (Wichita, maybe?). From what I hear, he's a good x's and o's guy and very big on video and stuff, and the guys all love him. I assume he would move up if Woodie left, but I guess that's a joint decision between GMGM and Doug Yingst.

As for Bob Woods, he played in Hershey back when we won the Cup in 97 under Bob Hartley. He moved around a bit and ended up as a player/assistant in Mississippi (echl) when Bruce was head coach there. After BB went to coach Manchester, Woodie was head coach in Miss. From what I heard, when BB was hired for the Hershey job, he called Woodie right away and asked him to come back here as assistant. So obviously BB thinks the world of Woodie and it wouldn't surprise any of us if Woodie follows Bruce to the Caps.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 31, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

In all the talk on personnel changes, everyone wants to move Aucoin, Bourque, and Giroux onto the Caps and trade off Fleischmann, Fehr, Schultz and Semin.

Aucoin and Giroux are older than the guys we want to get rid of. Bourque is barely younger than most of that group and is a month older than Schultz and is not quite two years younger than Semin and Fleischmann. Is there any reason why our older Hershey guys show more promise than the Caps' young guys that people want to get rid of?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 12:34 AM

I think the biggest reason is that the Hershey guys are playing minor leaguers and the Caps guys are playing against players above minor league level. The step from the AHL to the NHL is hugh.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | May 31, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Below is a link to John Walton's blog entry about last night's game. Lots more stuff in the Winipeg papers that I didn't bother to link to. Also, for those who missed the broadcast last night, JW had Eric Fehr, who lives in Manitoba, as an intemission guest on the radio. Eric had surgery on BOTH shoulders after the Caps were eliminated from the playoffs.

http://johnwaltonhockey.blogspot.com/2009/05/three-wins-away-from-greatness.html

Posted by: tess2201 | May 31, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

tess, thanks for the info. It does seem like the guys like Frenchie. It will be interesting to see what happens.
"Success" is a relative term. It was fun for most of the night, but the bridesmaids and maid of honor got the bride good and drunk and then left her with me. Lets just say I'm going to be thoroughly cleaning my car today. When I woke up this morning, she was still asleep on our bathroom floor. Its a darn good thing the wedding wasn't today.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I agree w you Capsfannmiss. That is why it is good to keep what we have and stop trying to pull everyone from Hershey. The Caps have the youngest team in the NHL. We need some maturity on the team. It's gonna be tough wo Feds and Kozzie. Who is going to teach the kids? Are the Kids going to teach the kids? This is another reason we should bring back Brashear and just make minor adjustments.

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 31, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

capsfan01, The Caps are by far *not* the youngest team in the NHL. In October of last season, the Caps were 15th youngest. I can't seem to find a list for this year, but I'm just looking quickly. I'm looking now at a few teams I figured were younger than us. But I do know the average age of the Hawks is 3 years less than the Caps, who sit at just short of 29 years. We've got more "vets" than most people think (10 guys over 30). Even if you take out Brash, Nyls, and Feds, we're still 2 years "older" than the Hawks.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: uncatim | May 31, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I only have the stats for the "elite 8" teams handy (the second round teams) but you can see it here: http://www.fromtherink.com/2009/5/12/873429/ranking-the-round-2-teams-age-and

The Caps were the second youngest team, but Chicago was significantly younger.

The link also has height and weight rankings. The Caps are huuuuuuuuge. They also are tops for the entire NHL.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 31, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

also, John Walton noted that Fehr was in attendance last night to cheer on the Bears :)

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 31, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected by your superior knowledge jmugirl

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 31, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

RedBirdie, I just went through all the teams current rosters. The Caps are 7th oldest at 28.750. Teams older: Devils, Wings, Sharks, Leafs, Habs, Bruins. Devils are high at 31.12, Kings are the youngins at 25.769.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

As Redbirdie points out they are still one of the youngest teams. And keeping a goon, who has some skill, is a good idea as others have suggested. But that is just my humble opinion.

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 31, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Okay, okay you win JMU_Girl. Happy?

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 31, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm curious as to what will happen to the Caps average age if Feds doesn't return, and I assume Kozlov and Brashear won't be back. And if Nylander were to go away.....

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 31, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

capsfan01, I wasn't trying to "win". I apologize if I came across as a "know-it-all". If I ever do, it is never my intention. I'm a bit of a numbers geek and trust me, I'm trying to keep my "nerd point" total down, but old habits die hard.
My opinion, for all the used stick tape it might get me, is that we need to stop thinking about our Caps as this young team that has all the time in the world to learn what they need to. Granted, removing some of our older guys will drop the average down, but our "core" is eventually going to have to start becoming the "veteran leaders" we all recognize we need. What better way for our guys to grow up than to mentor a rookie or two? I'm not saying get rid of everyone over 30 and start again, just that maybe a kid or two from Hershey, along with a few older guys, might be a good mix for us.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

RedBirdie, Losing Nyls, Feds, Brash, & Koz drops our forwards to 26.3 from 29 and the team to just over 27, which would put us down into the bottom 1/3 of the league.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

My family and I decided to take a weekend get away to Hershey next weekend. Booked the hotel and have 4 seats in section 114 both Saturday and Sunday. I've only been to one game at Giant center but I remember it being a very nice stadium. Minor league in size but not in appearance. We're really looking forward to it. Question for you Bears games frequenters, is it OK for us to wear our Caps jerseys?

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 31, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

jmu_capsgirl: I think your well put points about age & leadership are worth a few rolls of brand new stick tape.

fanohock1: While I can't say I frequent Bears games (though I been enough that I can get there w/o gps or mapquest), I guess Caps jerseys are better than canucks gear. Of course, one can usually pick up some cool Bears apparel just outside the main entrance...

Posted by: uncatim | May 31, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I stand by original guess that the Red Wings will win in 6. I also want to state again the Fleury will be the reason the Pens won't win. He was clearly the weak link last night. He can stop everything at times but too often he gets rattled when it really matters.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 31, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Having bounced around during my time in the military I have had the pleasure of being is towns of farm teams in the past. I am a Bears fan now but only because they are the Caps farm team. I know the contract just got extended but it's reasonable to assume that the Bears will eventually not be affiliated with the Caps. For that reason I'm not too keen on loading up on Bears gear. I have some old Pirates stuff that won't see the light of day because they are now the farm team for the Sabres. I just want to make sure I don't offend Bears fans by wearing our Caps jerseys. So the Bears have a chocolate of white out for their games?

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 31, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1:
They wear white at home (their road color is really more of a burgundy). Do you have any white Caps gear? I've seen everything there - white Bears, burgundy bears, white Caps, red Caps. You'll be fine regardless. BTW, how did you get lower level seats? Did you get them awhile ago? Seems like downstairs sold out straight away.

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 31, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

uncatim, thanks! That's like 5 bucks! ;-D
fanohock1, There are always a bunch of Caps jerseys in the crowd at GC. I noticed even more now that the Caps are done and our fans are making trips up to see our young guys. A few Avs jerseys are still around too.
AHL home teams wear white, but from the last round, I didn't really notice a white out. Most folks seem to have the chocolate away jersey or a black player tee. I personally will be wearing a dark grey 2009 Calder Cup playoffs tee with the Bears logo on it that I bought at the shop just inside the main entrance last time. I entertained wearing my Caps jersey, but felt it would make more sense if it was either blank or of a former Bear, not the generic Ovechkin. Personally hoping the Bears & Caps stay affiliated for a long time. Both teams seem to benefit from the geographical and stylistic proximity.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

jmu_capsgirl: Thanks! I hope the Caps and Bears stay together too. The only way I'd like to see a change is if for some reason Baltimore would surface again as an AHL town. It would be cool to bring the old Skipjacks jerseys back. Our Caps jerseys don't have names or numbers on them, just autographs, including Alzner's.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 31, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl: Agreed. I think that both clubs benefit from the affiliation and I'd like to see it continue.

I'm debating what to wear Saturday (and managed to get lower level seats!) - I have a Hershey Bears hoodie, but it's too warm to wear this time of year, I'm using it for skating lessons this time of year. I wanted a black Neuvirth T-shirt, but they sold out of those. I do have a Capitals Alzner/27 T-shirt that might work.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 31, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

It's all good Jmu_capsgirl. I like your breakdown of numbers as I have a degree in Lit and was never big on numbers. I'm still pulling for Brashear back on the roster, though :-). It's good to keep an enforcer, good for leadership, good for team chemistry, and good for the regular season. Don't think too many changes need to be made to the team, but I guess we'll see what GMGM does...

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 31, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1 and all:
By all means, wear your Caps jersey if you want. Lots of fans wear Caps gear. I have a Fedorov jersey that I wear pretty often but I find it's too warm this late in the year. You'll see a little be of everything... maroon, black, white, red. And you'll even see Pens jerseys (this is Pennsylvania, after all, and some misguided souls actually cheer for the Pens or Flyers!). I have a black tee with the retro "skating bear" logo that has had a lucky streak so that'll be my choice on Saturday. I'm in section 119, about eight rows back from the Bears bench.

Posted by: tess2201 | May 31, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

@Capsfannmiss

You said it -- the jump from the AHL to the NHL is steep. So it's questionable as to whether the best guys that Hershey has to offer will be better than the ones on the Caps that everyone wants to dump.

Yes, with the likely departures of Kozlov, Fedorov, and Brash, the logical people to consider for the vacacies are Giroux, Osala, Bourque, AuCoin, etc. Still, I would not give up on Flash, Fehr, Semin, and for that matter, Schultz, just yet.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Agreed CapsFan75.

Posted by: capsfan01 | May 31, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl and others,

Maybe all the things going on (Clark and Nylander injured and ineffective, Feds, Kozlov, and Brash probably leaving, and Theodore ineffective) are giving the Caps a message -- time to turn the reins to the kids (Ovi, Semin, Green and company). Time to make Ovi Captain (unless you'd prefer Laich in that role).

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

At least you got your family into hockey, unlike me. Now my kids are about grown, so I'm only now getting back into it. (I was immersed in their activities, primarily swim team.) But now I've gotten so interested in the current group of Caps since most of them are so close in age to my first child (with one Cap even reminding me of her).

Enjoy your trip to Hershey.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl

Sounds like that bachelorette party was as bad as some of the bachelor parties I've heard about. Too much drinking.

Glad you broke down the numbers. What did you major in, by the way? While I was a math major, I guess I've had too many things on my mind (and too many statistics to worry about) to do a good breakdown of financial data and age of the players. (It appears you're probably younger than all the Caps except Varlamov and Backstrom and we're not even counting Neuwirth.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75
I agree that either Ovie or Laich should be the captain of this team as they are now the leaders, much more so than Clark.

Chris Bourque should be on the team next year. He had a tremendous regular season and is on fire in this years playoffs. I could see him on either the Caps first or second line as he goes hard to the net. If Giroux can learn to score at the NHL level he could join the team as well, Osala is probably one year away from the show.

Posted by: MReilly9 | May 31, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75, It is possible, although I'm not sure we want to completely turn it over to them. They are the ones who nearly decapitated themselves on a golfcart. :-P I know folks will disagree with me, but I would prefer the captaincy not go to Ovi. He seems fine with his A and has enough of the "publicity burden" being the superstar. Let Clark finish his tour here, then give it to somebody like Laich, Steckel, or (someday) Backs.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

@Red Birdie (from previous threads)

Do you have Orioles season tickets? Or do you buy tickets for whenever?

I was at the O's game today. (We have Sunday only season tickets.) Too bad their offense was anemic. (I hear the Yankees actually lost today.)

I hope that Detroit's hockey team has as good of luck as their baseball team did today (since they're the ones who beat the O's). Go Red Wings! Still no Pavel for today.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

@ jmu_capsgirl,

I thought it was Ovi and Green who did the infamous golf cart ride, not Ovi and Laich. (No, don't think Green should be captain.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

New post on Washington Insider -- on the steroid investigation.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 31, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Tess:
I was surprised by all of the Crosby jerseys when I went to a Bears game. Sure, it is PA, but it's also the home of the Caps feeder team. Hello?!? Someone needs to smack those people!! ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | May 31, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75, Oy, yes. I went through a bottle of Clorox spray and a can of Neutra-air today. I've decided I'm just going to get a suite for a Caps game for my bachelorette.
My major was Hospitality, but that gets you a business degree from JMU, so I got all the CIS, accounting, etc. I've got an Excel doc full of contract info, waivers, physical stats, ages, etc. I'm a nerd, what can I say? And yes, I'm a year older than Backstrom.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75, Oh, it was. I'm just saying our young guys still have some hijinks in them and may need a steadying presence or two, even if its just BPoths.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 31, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75: We will have a great time in Hershey, thanks! The entire family is deep into hockey. I played until I was 20, then realized it wasn't going to happen, but I still coach. My boys both play travel AA hockey and High School hockey right here in MD. They made it to the MD State Semis two years in a row. My wife is a master with the clock at the rink in town and helps out on a regular basis. We are pretty much emersed in hockey from August to March, actively, and then of course watch it through June. It's a great sport and we get a lot of quality hang out time with the boys on the way to road games every weekend.

We never got into the Tier I (AAA). My oldest played in AAA tournaments and could have probably made Team MD but it is a HUGE financial commitment. Talking about 8-10K a year including fees and travel.

Gotta go. The 3rd period is starting. By the way I am not so sure we don't have defensemen that can clear the slot I am beginning to believe more and more that the jersey you wear in the NHL gives you a ton of wiggle room. Gil interferes EVERY time the puck is dumped past him because he's so darn slow. Orpik has take runs at players which should have been interference (yesterday's hit on Hossa is one example) and doesn't get called. I believe you put those two in Caps jerseys and calls start coming. Interesting that the NBC crew used the Staal/Kronwall incident as an example of interference when we've counted 3 occasion between Orpick and Gil where interference should have been called. Gotta go, the game is on pause.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 31, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Everybody has their role on the team, and I am somewhat surprised by how many people are asking for a change of Captaincy. Ovy fills his role well and has even verbalized his lack of interest in wearing the "C". Let him do what he does best. Clark deserves to keep it. Injury has kept him off the ice, and until his game falls way off, I bet the boys would just as soon keep looking up to him for leadership. Sure, his point production has dropped off, but when he netted 30, he was paired up with Ovy. As a 2nd or 3rd line player, the role is changed significantly, so measure his merits as a Captain based on his role. He has never worn the "C" because of his scoring prowess.

Posted by: gonchpup | May 31, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I think that Mattias Ohlund would be a perfect fit for the Caps. UFA with an outgoing 3,5 mill contract with the Canucks. He's a big, hard hiting D-man, with a "defence-first" mind but he's also good with puck and got a really good shot. He also claimed that he wants to try something new after 11 seasons playing for the same franchise.

Posted by: Walle | June 1, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

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