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Posted at 9:48 AM ET, 11/30/2010

Alex Ovechkin fourth in All-Star fan balloting after two weeks

By Lindsay Applebaum
Morning Roundup

*All-Star voting update after two weeks: It's not lookin' good for Alex Ovechkin, who's in fourth place among forwards with 120,966 votes. Who's in first? Yep, you know it.

*The Caps visit the FBI training academy, shoot at stuff and blow things up as a teambuilding exercise. Watching at home, kids? (Puck Daddy)

*The Caps' lines change as often as the weather. (RMNB)

*Alex Ovechkin's rookie card was sold on ebay over the weekend for $9,189.00. Kinda wish I'd picked one of those up at the time. (Kukla's Korner via We Love DC)

By Lindsay Applebaum  | November 30, 2010; 9:48 AM ET
Categories:  Morning Roundup  
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Comments

I am interested in hearing some reactions to the TWO Crosby Slewfoots in last nights game. After seeing the Hi-Lights on NHL network I got a good laugh at the comments made. He is not a "dirty player", just competitive and working for his space. Just seems like we have more than one standard in the league.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | November 30, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

@Capsfanmiss

didn't you get the memo? There is the Canadian golden boy standard, the Canadian standard, The North American Standard, The Euro Standard, and the Dirty Comi Russian standard.

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I am of course not a Crosby nor Penguins fan but I watched the NHL on the Fly discussion on the two incidents. I can't remember the name of the young guy that sits the desk on some evenings said but he at the end, even though he admitted the incidents were the definition of a slew foot, he justified it by saying that Sidney is victimized by dirty plays all game every game. That is of course not a quote, but a general recap. Crosby has done this before and is famous for the spears when in close with fellow players. The next time you go to a Caps game pay close attention to the pre-game video because there is a clip of Crosby face to face with Laich I believe and the clip breaks away just as Crosby spears Laich.

Now, the league can keep Crosby from getting suspensions because they can continue to say he is not a repeat offender. To the league a repeat offender is someone who has been suspended for acts in the past. Well, what better way to keep Crosby from being a "repeat" offender? Just don't ever suspend him and he never, by definition, becomes that repeat offender.

Oh yeah, the same guy who made the comments justifying Crosby's actions called out Caps fans with a goofy grin regarding Ovi being 4th in voting.

Posted by: fanohock1 | November 30, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

LA Kings defenseman Drewiske, seems to be doing a solid job as a stay-at-home defenseman who also has puck-moving skills. He has blocked 43 blocked shots so far through 23 games which has him 43rd overall this year in the NHL though he is near the bottom in hits with only 15. He is a -2 through 23 games though the LA Kings are among the league leaders in goals against average and Drewiskie averages about 11 minutes of ice time a game.

Article on Drewiske from the Kings website:
http://kings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=543621

If Drewiske has been offered to the Caps in a trade for Flash should GMGM accept the trade?

Posted by: MReilly9 | November 30, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

So watching the FBI team building activity, I noticed that Green was swinging that heavy thing to force open doors pretty easily...his shoulder must be feeling better.

Anyone else notice Semin caressing Green in the beggining of that video?

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

No Semin at practice this morning...everyone else including Sloan is practicing.

Posted by: ThePat | November 30, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I am not in the camp that wants to trade Semin. I know that LA wouldn't do this but the ONLY player on the Kings I (little ol' me) would take in return for Semin is Doughty. PERIOD. Any other player, we lose.

Posted by: fanohock1 | November 30, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

That video reminded me of Game 7 of the playoffs against MTL. Flash was nowhere to be seen. Hmmmmmmmm

Btw, it was funny as he11 to see MaJo struggle with the door buster. Man, he is just dwarfed by the other Caps.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

@capscoach

Yes, Semin was totally all over Green. A bit creepy...I think Green just got supermanned (dat h0).

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

I think that the NHL On The Fly guy making the comments in support of Crosby was Mike Johnson.

Posted by: MReilly9 | November 30, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I am interested in hearing some reactions to the TWO Crosby Slewfoots in last nights game. After seeing the Hi-Lights on NHL network I got a good laugh at the comments made. He is not a "dirty player", just competitive and working for his space. Just seems like we have more than one standard in the league.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | November 30, 2010 10:18 AM
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"He's not a dirty player, but those we're 2 dirty plays"
lol- I saw that last night too.

Posted by: Bmorecaps | November 30, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

we're=were. Sorry, I'm new here.

Posted by: Bmorecaps | November 30, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I despise Crosby and hate the Pens, but quite frankly it'd be nice to have someone on the Caps who played w/an edge and is borderline "dirty"....I didn't see any of his slew-foot incidents, did anyone on the other team seek retribution??

Posted by: vermontcaps | November 30, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

And the guy that Crosby slewfooted got a penalty for interference...think it was Callahan?

Posted by: jeets | November 30, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

@capCoach “Anyone else notice Semin caressing Green in the beginning of that video?”

Yeah, my wife and I went to a Caps practice at the beginning of this season and while waiting for drills to begin Semin was doing the same thing to Flash and talking to his ear. We were standing right next to the glass where this was taking place, I told my wife, ‘Well, that looks a bit gay don’t you think?’ my wife rolled her eyes and told me to not be silly, he’s European, this behavior is normal over there. ... yeah right :P

Posted by: guer_j | November 30, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, is anything less important than how many votes OV has? The ASG is just meaningless fluff anyway. Fun to watch, maybe, but wholly unimportant. While it's fun to have a rivalry, the media's insistence at making everything an OV vs Sid controversy is just tiresome. In the past, I always placed a lot of weight on individual accomplishments in order to have "bragging rights" - but after MTL eliminated us last year, I could not care less anymore. All I care about is the Cup. If OV finishes 100th in scoring and never wins another individual trophy of any kind, I won't care if we win the Cup.

Posted by: alpca3877 | November 30, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I hate to say it because these are my BOYS, but that was one of the gayest-looking pat-downs I've ever witnessed (not that there's anything wrong with that). Kinda makes you wonder. Greenie actually seemed to enjoy the frisking. Yikes. So effing hilarious!

Posted by: sca187 | November 30, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure Green reads the comements here... he must be fuming ha ha!

Posted by: guer_j | November 30, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Hey...I don't give a rats you know what about our (or any) players sexual orientation...it just took me by surprise!

Maybe Green is just doing his part to convince Semin to stay :)

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

i'm freaking out hearing that semin isn't at practice with all the trade rumors buzzing....the only person I would want from the kings in return would be doughty

Posted by: _stevo | November 30, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Ha, one for the team, I approve :)

Posted by: guer_j | November 30, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh you mean someone who would be considered on the edge, or reckless, like say, Ovi? Sorry, the phrase reckless was used to characterize Ovi when he slew-footed Peverly last year. Crosby is far from an on the edge player. Crosby's dirty plays are subtle, when the puck is no where around. He is less likely to get caught if he pulls this crap away from the play. Ovi started getting suspended when he was labled reckless last year (anyone that wants to argue that point, take note, Ovi was called reckless when he hit Kaleta, and then got suspended shortly thereafter when he hit Gleason). Colin Campbell used BB's statement regarding Ovi being reckless out of context when he levied the first suspension. BB said what he meant was Ovi would get hurt playing reckless, not hurt some else. Instead, from the point forward Ovi has been deemed reckless and the league has been slowly castrating him since last November.

Posted by: fanohock1 | November 30, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

@_stevo - me too, yikes, if they trade Semin they better get Stamkos in return, anything less would be foolish.

If Semin goes, that'll be the day I'll have a second favorite team, probl get centerIce just to not miss any of his games.

Posted by: guer_j | November 30, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Here's a link to TSN where the reckless label took its own life for Ovechkin. Look how many times that word is used both in the story, and the other threads on that same page. Sorry, two slewfoots in the same game, caught by an official or not on video deserves a reaction from the league. There are players in the NFL fined every weekend that don't get flagged during the games. I'm not saying the NFL is perfect, but the players knowing they could be fined or suspended for flagrant penalties even if not flagged during the game itself has been keeping them in check much more over the last few weeks.

Posted by: fanohock1 | November 30, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: fanohock1 | November 30, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

So if the Caps trade Semin for Dought, it MIGHT not be the worst move ever. He has a cap hit of 3.475 which gives us another 2.5ish mil of cap space on top of what we already have...we then have more than enough to get a very good center who (will have to have some scoring ability to make up for the loss of Semin).

I just don't like trading away our current best player when we want to make a cup run...I do think Ovie will pick up his game soon, but it is one heck of a risk! You are also messing with A LOT of top two line chemistry!

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

If Semin goes, that'll be the day I'll have a second favorite team, probl get centerIce just to not miss any of his games.

Posted by: guer_j | November 30, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I strongly suggest you have a "second" favorite team and get CenterIce...it helps put the Caps play into perspective (I've been a Caps fan since their inception, but became a Bruins fan due to location and television; I've had no problem with divided loyalties)

Posted by: vermontcaps | November 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Relax, the Caps aren't going to trade their leading scorer. Not now, not at the deadline. He is a key piece of this team if its gong to make a cup run.

Posted by: griz0615 | November 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious how some people like to scare themselves.
shhh. I heard something … Nah, just a crazy monkey coming out of the closet.

Posted by: hock1 | November 30, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Write in Semin and Carlson and vote often!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | November 30, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Scott Hannan has been traded to the Caps...details to follow

Posted by: ThePat | November 30, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Hannan?

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | November 30, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Yep we just got Hannan! Couldn't be happier! Not sure what we gave up yet but Hannan is a very very nice upgrade. Very defensive minded, very hard hitting but can move the puck very well also.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | November 30, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Never play poker with George McPhee. Hannan came out of nowhere!

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | November 30, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I told you the deal would happen this morning...well I guess technically it happened in the afternoon here, but in the morning in Colorado. But no one took me up on it yesterday.

Posted by: ThePat | November 30, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

What team is he on?

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Colorado papers report Flash has gone the other way....Early Xmas Present woohoo woohoo wooohoo

Posted by: ThePat | November 30, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Ok...I looked him up. He is older, on the last year of his contract and has a 4.5mil cap hit...Please tell me he is really good and worth the money.

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat - I'm with ya. Not sure if you know but I'm in Colorado. I ran into a ... friend/slash acquaintance last night at a rink here and was told that the Avs were talking to the Caps. So after all that happened yesterday I asked if it was regarding a Dman coming to DC and I was just "smiled/smirked" at! Obviously I was stoked but to be honest I hear this all the time and nothing materializes. I did have a feeling though that there was a lot of smoke around this one. Didn't know it was Hannan but off all the D here in the Mile High City he's the one I wanted the most.

Nice work GMGM.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | November 30, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, I am happy to see Flash go...but from what I hear, Flash for Hannan straight up isnt the best of deals. I assume we have something else (picks/prospects) headed our way?

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I do not know much about Scott Hannan. Does anyone here have any info about him as a player and what he is viewed as(2nd pairing D-man?).

Posted by: sgm3 | November 30, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

@SAOTI

It is a fine deal. He's the rugged Dman that will throw his weight around. Only this season left on his contract. Its a win win. Great deal by GMGM in my opinion.

Posted by: ThePat | November 30, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Well if he is good, Im not worried. But I heard 5/6th Dman...and at 4.5 a year...seemed high.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

Is Hannan considered a top 4 D-man? Is he left handed or right handed?

Just curious, I really know nothing about this guy.

Posted by: sgm3 | November 30, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Faints. We got a tough, defensive-oriented defenseman w/ limited offensive skills? *faints* :)

From SB Nation: http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/players/55482/scott-hannan

Posted by: blackjack65 | November 30, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

In case the SB link is down later, on Hannan:
* Has good size at 6-1, 225 pounds and uses it effectively to play a tight defensive game. Is able to combine a physical defensive game with discipline. Can log a ton of minutes and is a leader.

Flaws
* Won't put up big offensive numbers, which is partly due to the fact he doesn't take a lot of shots from the point. Is somewhat limited in terms of natural ability.

Career Potential
* Veteran defensive defenseman.

Posted by: blackjack65 | November 30, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Doughty is a great player. Make no mistake about it though, he would proably be a rental and he will be making much much more next year. We probably could not retain his services beyond this season only. Again, a great player, but I have a feeling a veteran blue-liner would be more to the Caps liking. Someone that can be retained for 3-4 mil next season. Doughty would certainly look good in RED this season. However, I have been a Semin fan since my sons and I nicknamed him crazy legs back in the 2003-04 season.

Posted by: fanohock1 | November 30, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3

He is about 6'2, 230. Throws his weight around, he's a left handed shot. But doesnt really put up offensive numbers. He was getting top 4 minutes in Colorado, so you can really put him anywhere. My guess is you'll see him with Poti. or youll see him with Carlson and Alzner and Erskine splitting time with Poti. Either way Id guess Sloan is about to hit waivers in about a week. No poitn in carrying 8 D.

Posted by: ThePat | November 30, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"I despise Crosby and hate the Pens, but quite frankly it'd be nice to have someone on the Caps who played w/an edge and is borderline "dirty"...."
====================================
The Capitals did have a player like this. His name was Alexander Ovechkin and he was a beast of a man feared by his oppositions before the League clamped down on his style, so now he is known as Alex "Goalless"-kin. A very sad story to a very prideful man who refuses to cry or complain like that kid in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 30, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm one of Crosby's biggest fans, and I'll open by saying it was a dirty play, no question.

But seriously, if you don't think hockey players break rules continually throughout every game, and get away with it, you simply aren't watching close enough.

Superstars are clutched, grabbed, infracted, and interfered with constantly. Every now and again, I'm sure it is beyond frustrating, and they can and have retaliated.

Last night, Sid lashed out. He is a hockey player, and human. But to say this makes him a dirty player is blatantly off base. He is a highly skilled player, and seldom commits penalties, let alone blatantly playing dirty.

But don't imagine he is without fault. He has lashed out. He has gotten away with it at times, and he's gotten called on it at times. Not much different than any other player, except the microscope is focused on him 24/7, and when he sneezes we get 15 articles on it.

Posted by: spynnal | November 30, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I agree about Ovechkin. since his suspensions last year he has not been the same. Very sad that the Canadian officials have taken away this great players game.Crosby can slewfoot twice in one game and all the Canadian announcers excuse their Golden Boy. Its a good thing Gordie Howe doesn't play in this age cause Ovechkin plays just like Howe did.But the Canadian Officials won't let Ovechkin play that way. Only Canadians can play and get away with dirty play after dirty play. Crosby anybody whine whine whine.

Posted by: duckyjimpond | December 1, 2010 1:21 AM | Report abuse

I agree about Ovechkin. since his suspensions last year he has not been the same. Very sad that the Canadian officials have taken away this great players game.Crosby can slewfoot twice in one game and all the Canadian announcers excuse their Golden Boy. Its a good thing Gordie Howe doesn't play in this age cause Ovechkin plays just like Howe did.But the Canadian Officials won't let Ovechkin play that way. Only Canadians can play and get away with dirty play after dirty play. Crosby anybody whine whine whine.

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