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Capitals seek a faster start

Morning Roundup

Last season, the Capitals consistently got off to fast starts in games. They tallied more first-period goals (92) than any other club and were first to score in 52 of their regular-season contests.

In the small sample that is the first 10 games of the 2010-11 season, the Capitals have scored first just three times (against Atlanta twice and Ottawa) and recorded four first-period goals.

In Minnesota Thursday night, it wasn't simply Washington's inability to score first that was the biggest problem, but a sluggish start in all three zones. And it's a problem that's happened with more frequency than the team would like.

Coach Bruce Boudreau couldn't put a finger on why the past hallmark of fast starts to games hasn't yet been established this year.

"I haven't changed too much of my philosophies and everything as far as getting them ready for the games, so I don't know what it is," he said. "It's something that we've got to come out better."

Said Jason Chimera: "Maybe we're not ready to play off the bat and you've got to be ready in this league; you've got to dictate the pace, and when we get up it's hard to contain us, that's for sure. We've got to work on our first periods and starts."

FROM THE POST
Both the gamer and post-game blog update from the Capitals 2-1 loss to Minnesota.

Box Seats contributor Kareem El-Alaily breaks down the construction of a Stanley Cup champion.

IN THE MINORS
The Bears back up Sheldon Souray after the veteran defenseman faces criticism for the fight in which he broke his hand. (Tim Leone)

At the bottom of his notebook Leone also mentions that Semyon Varlamov made a visit to Hershey while the Capitals are on the road.

By Katie Carrera  | October 29, 2010; 8:13 AM ET
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Coach Bruce Boudreau couldn't put a finger on why the past hallmark of fast starts to games hasn't yet been established this year. "I haven't changed too much of my philosophies and everything as far as getting them ready for the games so I don't know what it is," he said.
Are we supposed to believe he has things up his sleve that he can actually change things. Dose he really thinnk we have forgotten montreal in the play offs already....... I don't know if this man has any new tricks .........

Oh well ..... its Friday right

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

The more quotes I read from this guy the more it becomes apparent that it is just time for a change.

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

As I posted on the previous. Please let me know your thoughts:

So, in reading these comments I get the feeling most everyone wants to blame BB and he should be out the door if he doesn't change. Here is my question:

Who do you bring in to replace him? A coach similar to his style, a team that has been built to play his style? Or a coach with a different style which would mean we would falter for a while because we don't have the players to play a different style (which would assumed to be a more defensive style)? I think you can see how the latter way has worked out for the Devils and Kovy.

Are we prepared to take a couple of steps backwards because that is what will happen if we change coaches at this point.

Oh, please provide AVAILABLE coaches names for someone you have in mind.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | October 29, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Now I know I will get blasted for this but here are three names I would not mind seeing as the Caps bench boss:

Larry Robinson

Paul Maclean

Ron Francis

All have won Cups either as a player or coach and all would demand respect.

Ok, blast away!

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm reserving final judgement on BB until GMGM provides him with the proper players to succeed.

Here are a couple of telling stats from last night that I'm bringing over from Japers'.

1. "And if one number could tell the story of the game for the boys from D.C., this is it: the game was 43:32 old before a Caps forward from one of the bottom three lines registered a shot on goal (and that was a weak 44-foot wrister from Mathieu Perreault)."

2. "It was an awful night for the Caps' second- and third-line centers, as Perreault and Tomas Fleischmann combined for no points, two shots on goal, and a 6-for-19 (31.6%) night in the dot. Unlike many a wine, the issue of the Caps' depth down the middle is not getting better with age."

I think both of these points speak to how much the Caps need a true second line center. The miserable experiment with Flash at center needs to end. I'll reserve final judgement on MP until he's got a few more games in, but I don't think he's an NHL center either.

Posted by: cainoo7x | October 29, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Which one of those would match up their style of play/coaching with the type of players we have locked up? Remember we have 2 players with "our style" locked up for 10 years so I would think the style won't change much.

People think they are seeing greener grass but they aren't looking at the whole lawn. Change is made to shock a team. It is easier to change a coach than all players but in this case, if we change the coach, we will have to change the majority of the players too.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | October 29, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I have a question ...........
Where are all the new posters coming from? Has Japers danashed a whole load of people:)

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Slow starts in the game is not a new issue. It was a problem all last season. This isn't a suprise, it's a continuing problem. Chimera's brief comments seemed to summarize how you have to play the Wild---yet the coach said they're unknown to us. These guys aren't going out prepared to play, it's now either a room problem, a leadership problem or a coaching problem. Unfortunately, blowing up the roster isn't an option.

Posted by: vafan3 | October 29, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

@CTCapsPhan,

Ovie and Backs are not simply run and gun style players, where in the world did you come up with that assumption?? Backs is very responsible on the defensive side and Ovie could be as well IF it was demanded of him.

To say the personnel would have to be changed is hogwash, these players play hockey.....period! They have adapted to several styles and coaches throughout their careers and would be able to adapt to a new style. A few weak links may need to be replaced in a more defensive minded system but not many.

And please do not use Hanlon as your example that they can not play defensive hockey. Hanlon had alreay lost that etam long before Ovie and Backs began to mature and Hanlon was simply a horrible coach!

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

@bqts, I have actually been on here for many years. I just don't write anymore because of all the insane personal bashing.

@PhilR, I do not mention Hanlon at all because he was just a bridge to a new regime. Yes, I do think they would have to change. I did not say it could not be done, but there would be a big set back in the growth of the team as contenders. Just look at how changing styles from defensive to offensive has set them back.

My personal opinion of the season so far is that the team is actually trying to change their play style a little bit based on the playoff failure last year. The problem is that they are still learning it and they are caught in between the old and the newer. It will take a good part of the season for them to get it down which is why I think BB needs the whole season. If nothing in the playoffs, then you look at options when you have an offseason to get used to a new coach/style.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | October 29, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I meant to say look at how much changing styles from defensive to offensive has set the Devils back.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | October 29, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

@PhilR

I agree that Semin missed his shots last night and he does that too often, but I disagree that he was any worse last night than just about every forward on the ice(I actually thought Backstrom played one of his better games). But the fact you always choose him to chastise after every loss shows a bias.

Whenever the Caps lose you invarialbly blame Semin, Flash and BB. No mater what happened in the game you do this. When you respond in such a fashion your comments lose credibility because it is apparent you are not actually evaluating the game but are just waiting for the Caps to lose so you can copy and past the exact same comments that blame Flash, Semin and BB.

Carlson was bad last night. Laich has been horrible all season. Knuble cannot finish a great scoring chance for the life of him. Backstrom, while playing better last night, has not been playing up to his level, Ovie has not been very good with the puck(by his standards) the past 5 games, MP played very poorly last night(as much as it pains me to say it).

If you are going to get on here and berade Semin, Flash and BB when they make mistakes then make sure you spread the blame and actually blame the other players when the play bad.

And to BB's credit, look at the PK this year. That was a change in philosophy made by the COACH. It has been very successful so far. In addition, BB was preaching more attention to defense this year. The Caps are unquestionably more focused on playing D this year. It is apparent from watching the games and it is apparent in the amount of goals they have allowed.

Unfortunately their PP and offense have not been functioning well so far. It's been 10 games, the Caps are 6-4, they are adjusting to the new changes made by the coach to better prepare them for the playoffs. You blame BB for a guy not skating hard yet you do not credit him for moves actually made by the coach.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree w/ CTCP, his comment about adjusting the style of play is the same conclusion I have drawn from the first 10 games. I would have loved to see them come out and win their first 10 games (admit it, secretly we all did) but realisticly I would prefer them to take some lumps early in the season if it helps extend the season to next June.

Posted by: ds_kelly | October 29, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

sgm,

I would like you to look at my previous postig history and you will see that I very rarely bash Semin as I really do like the guy, is he fragile as a twig sometimes? Sure, but he is one hell of a talent. I do believe you have me mixed up with someone else on that point! Now Flush, guilty as charged, can't stand the guy at all!!

If you do not think the coach should take a good portion of the blame for his team coming into this season and playing three solid games and seven very weak games then I believe you are also in the minority here. I just have no problem with voicing that opinion and suggestin that change is needed.

And if you read yesterday's posts I was very complimentary of the entire team to include praising Flash's play.

I just want consistency, I have no problem calling out players for their poor play, ANY player. I just felt Semin and Flush were the main culprits last night, if you saw it differently then so be it.

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"Sorry, I meant to say look at how much changing styles from defensive to offensive has set the Devils back.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan "

I think it is far more difficult for a team to adjust its style from defensive to offensive than from offensive to defensive. Every nhl player should be capable of learning good positioning and competing hard. Flash may never win the Selke but he could be coached to backcheck or improve his coverage in the defensive zone.
The creativity required for an offensive style is much much harder thing to teach or implement if the players are not talented in that respect. Also you need better chemistry between the players to make it work. Defensive systems in general are more mechanical.

Posted by: BorntoHula | October 29, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

CTCapsPhan,

When BB took over the team on Thanksgiving they were in the cellar of the NHL and ended up making the playoffs that year so I don't buy that it would take that long to adjust to a new style.

Look, BB has done a good job, he really has but I just don't see him being able to adjust and get this team to play the style that it takes to win in the playoffs. At some point every coach has run his course in any sport, I just feel it is getting to be about that time for BB.

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Everyone is talking about blaming BB and blaming GMGM right now. It is 10 games in and if all Caps fans are honest with themselves they knew this team wasn't going to be as good as last year. So relax a little bit.

If anyone is to blame at this point it is the players and that starts with the Captain. Ovechkin is responsible for leading by example. On Wednesday night his line dumped, chased, cycled. Last night he'd carry it over the line all night and Burns just had his way with him. Offensively this team does go as Ovi goes, if he is playing well it is infectious, if hes not we are typically a disaster. If BB wants to send a message to these guys SCRATCH him. Let the rest of the players figure it out without him for a game. When he was out last year, the team definitely simplified their game and did the right things.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

after watching john madden play last night, i sure wouldn't have minded him on our team. I'm not too big on the flash bashing on here, but he was pretty bad last night. We kept him for his scoring, not his defense...., but if he isn't scoring

Posted by: _stevo | October 29, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else got a feeling that the Caps are going to Unleash the Fury all over Calgary?

Not only do I feel a Capslaughter coming soon...but I hope it does as we got some pretty fun home games this November. I mean really, this looks like our 2nd toughest month (Feb looks to be the roughest).

If/when we break out and start firing on all cylinders, and if we can take 10 games next month...maybe some of the negativity will ebb. I dont mind constructive criticism, but the constant "the sky is falling" (donde esta el penqueno pollo?) gets annoying.

The boys arent playing great, which means they need our support more than ever (unlike the a-holes who were throwing crap on the ice after game 7 last year at their own team...pathetic).

Praise them for what they did well...then tell them what they need to improve on/change. Like Flush stepping up and being more like Joshua Jackson and giving up his position for someone better. He can play wing, but he is NO center. Early in the season or not, we need to ship him out for one of the components we need asap. Its arguable whether we need D or 2C more...both have no depth and are lacking. Personally, with the more solid team D, I'd say a legit 2C is our most pressing issue and would help take some heat off our D and Neuvy.

LETS GO CAPS...time to whoop up on some silly hosers eh.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 29, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

@ThePat,

Don't you think it is on the coach to demand those things out of his players though? I suggested in an earlier post that BB should have shortened his bench last night and only played those players that were willing to play the right way, heck Ron Wilson did that about a week ago....I think he sat 2 guys from his first line. That sends the message that if you aren't going to play right you will sit. And I have also suggested scratchign superstars no matter who they are if they are unwilling to do what the coach is preaching, thing is it just isn't happening.

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

@PhilR

It is on the coach, Im not arguing with you on that. But you see some nights they do play the right way so they know how to play that way. Its the other nights they choose not to and that starts with Ovi. And last night if BB had shortened the bench you would have had two guys playing, Hendricks and Chimera, because the other 10 F's didnt show up. Those two were at least playing hard and hitting a little bit.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

@ Phil R

While I totally agree the bench should be shortened, I think it would do a world of good to kick a few people's ego in the nuts so to speak.
Do you really think 1. that Gm Gm would stand behind BB making those calls? and 2. BB is scared to bench his big names, can play with out stars right?

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I do think that BB has a fair bit of responsibility for his teams uneven play...but last night the players were just LAZY! If they had put forth even a third more effort they would have won that game, but we shot ourselves in the foot taking penalties and not drawing any. It is time for the team to call a meeting (privately with no coaches) and have a serious talk about what they need to do to get into this season. Locker room pep talks between periods can be good, but this kind of situation calls for an overall change in team philosophy...the players themselves need to hold each other acountable and re-dedicate themselves to the season. I also think some team bonding might help...

they just look like a bunch of guys out there on the ice that barely know each other right now.

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

ThePat,

Can't really argue with you there, the team as a whole was bad last night but I think sitting Ovie for the 2nd at least would have sent a strong message to the rest of the squad that they better pull their heads out and start playing.

bqts,

I would cetainly hope GMGM would back that decision, after all he hired BB!! As for your second question I say that is absolutely why he has not done it, afraid of the backlash from the fans/media/and possibly mgmt althoug I would hope that would not be the case as far as mgmt.

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I'd vote for Larry Robinson, but he will be replacing MacLean soon, i bet. But BB must go, he is a one trick pony and his trick has been solved. He cannot coach for the playoffs which is apparent.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 29, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

@PhilR

Right thats why I am all for just scratching Ovi in Calgary. If he tries to do it at a home game that would be a disaster of PR headache to deal with. But the last game on a 3 game road trip in 4 nights he can get away with it. Scratch him and play Holtby so the team knows Neuvirth isnt back there to bail the team out like he has done for 8 games. Make the team play some hockey.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

If NJD can bench Kovalchuck, we can bench Flash, Semin, or anyone...I don't think the top line has done anything worthy of getting benched though...they have gotten progressively better this past week.

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

was it just me or was that the most boring hockey game ever? Probably because the crowd sucked so horribly- geez - it sounded like an L.A. NFL game in there! We looked tired and bored like the crowd. Maybe Ted's haters will come back out today...Maybe he ought not to be so sensitive? Maybe when they win 3-0 games in the playoffs consistantly...the haters will shush for a couple days.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 29, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

@ Capscoach

You nailed it !!!!!!!!!!!!! With any luck someone shows your post to the players.

@ ThePat & PhilR

How funny would it be to see (for example) Ovie, Semin and Green not even dressed. Bet that gets the teams attention but like you said Phil the media & Fans would go off the deep end.

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I think firing BB mid season would be devestating for this team psychologically. It would not pump them up like when BB came in...they love BB and if he gets fired mid-season I think they fall into a funk and downward spiral of shame and guilt. If this season doesn't work out fire him then.

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

@capscoach

why do you think they love him so much? They know they can get away with anything they want and face no penalty. BB is a player's coach. This team has reached the point where the fact they have a player's coach is bad for their development. BB needs to change and show he is in charge or this team could be in a lot of trouble.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

@thepat

could be true, but doesn't change the fact that firing him during the season would do more harm then good. And I think that is a little bit exxagerated...yes he is a players coach, but he works his butt off for those guys and they know it. Having a coach you care about is important too..Tortorella is a jerk and his players probably hate him...BB needs to just find more balance. He doesn't need to COMPLETELY change who he is and how he coaches.

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"It is time for the team to call a meeting (privately with no coaches) and have a serious talk about what they need to do to get into this season. Locker room pep talks between periods can be good, but this kind of situation calls for an overall change in team philosophy...the players themselves need to hold each other acountable and re-dedicate themselves to the season. I also think some team bonding might help..."

I agree.

Another thing to remember is that it is an 82 game season. No team is going to give a full effort in every game throughout the season. It just doesn't happen. That's what makes the playoffs so tough is that every team gives a full effort and players can barely make it through 20 games much less 82.

It's the nature of the sport. Luckily the Caps are good enough to make the postseason without having to use all of their effort every night. By the time April comes around that might be a good thing. They are playing more responsibly defensively and on the PK. Effort is the easiest thing to change.

Now, if the question is if the players should be giving 100% effort on every night to put on a good show for the paying fans then that is different in its entirety. That could be asked of basically every professional athlete.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

@capscoach

I didnt say he needs to completely change, but look at it. Half of these guys have had BB for like 6 years almost. That is a long time for a coach to be around players. Even if he works hard and they all respect each other, at some point the message he preaches stops getting to the players. Its the nature of professional athletes. I like BB but I want this team to win more than I care if BB is the guy that gets them to that point. Im up for whatever gets us to the promised land.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

The Pat,

Couldn't agree more, these players are like those spoiled brats you see in the mall that do whatever they want because they know their parents will do nothing. BB needs to crack the whip and get this teams attention.

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

@sgm3

"Luckily the Caps are good enough to make the postseason without having to use all of their effort every night."

I completely disagree with this. If the Caps continue with the effort they have put forth for 8 out of the first 10 games this year they aren't good enough to make the playoffs. Everyone thought Philly had the talent to make the playoffs and they struggled down to the last game and the last penalty shot to do it. If the team believes what you believe then we are in an awful lot of trouble.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

And let me rephrase, half the guys havent had him for that long, but a number of them have had BB for longer than just the 3 years he's been in DC.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

And when I say "these players are like spoiled brats" I am not talking about every player on the team, but if you watch the games you can see who thinks they can get away with things and who does not. ie, free-lancing, floating, not back checking, etc.....

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

@ThePat

The effort won't be bad on every night, but there will be games in which it is poor. But the Caps will give enough effort on enough nights and will be fine.

Through 10 games, with multiple injuries and poor effort in 8 of 10 games, they are still 6-4. I'm not worried at all.

On BB, where is his credit? Look at the PK this year. That was a change in philosophy made by the COACH. It has been very successful so far.

In addition, BB was preaching more attention to defense this year. The Caps are unquestionably more focused on playing D this year. It is apparent from watching the games and it is apparent in the amount of goals they have allowed. The forwards are backchecking more, when D move into the offensive zone on a rush they are always replaced by a forward to cover for him(rarely happened last year).

Unfortunately their PP and offense have not been functioning well so far. It's been 10 games, the Caps are 6-4, they are adjusting to the new changes made by the coach to better prepare them for the playoffs. It's game 10, the Pens are 5-4-1, the Flyres are 4-4-1, and the Devils stink. Be patient, the Caps are doing okay.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Folks, I have said this before, and I will say it again.

Bruce Boudreau is an affable, nice guy, and has a great "story" to tell everyone of his rise from minor hockey. But the problem is that he had no experience and still has no experience with the dynamic of NHL level coaching.

An NHL coach must do the following things:

1) Prepare his players through effective practice, analysis, and motivation.

2) Create a system, tempo, and structure for the team to embrace.

3) KNOW HOW TO CHANGE GEARS AND ADAPT TO THE OPPOSITION ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT.

4) Continue to get the best from the stars and make role players look like stars. (i.e., 2010 Blackhawks - Ladd, Byfulglien, Madden, Eager, etc.)

5) Know the game. Where it has been, where it is now, and anticipate where it is going.

6) Take the blame. Get little/no praise.


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Now....every night the opposing coach is setting his guys up to play the Caps. They are matching lines, dropping an additional winger in support of the neutral zone transition, jumping the blue line on the attack to give the skill forwards less room to operate, and skating harder to win puck battles.

Does Boudreau change up to match? NOPE. Does he effectively use personnel? NOPE. Does he adapt? Nope. The only change has been that the PK is better, but it couldn't have been worse last season.

Bottom line is that the guys are either not motivated, banged up, lazy, or ill-prepared by the coach. If Neuvie had not been playing his ass off, the Caps would have only 2 wins (vs. a completely lost NJ Devils team, and a tired Carolina team).

The Caps "escaped" both the Senators and Islanders games with wins after a lackluster performances. Eeked out of Nashville when they deserved to lose, and barely beat Atlanta after getting outplayed for most of the game.

All this said, I don't think firing Bruce now is the answer. Get the personnel thing right...use some of that salary cap to get the defense better. Dump Sloan, demote Fahey, maybe even cut bait with Green and Flash (save that for another rant). And someone teach Semin to hit the net during a game.

This is frustrating to watch night in and night out...and I have been watching for 30+ years...so much talent now...so few results.


It is gut-check time for the coaching staff and entire roster. 10 games in, and hardly a decent performance yet...keep it up and there will not be talk of playoffs in Washington this year.

Posted by: netminder71 | October 29, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

netminder71,

Careful, you are going to get accused of drinking goats blood!:)

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

@sgm3

you point out those 3 teams are playing similar to worse than us. But you fail to point out teams like Toronto, NYI, TB, Montreal, Atlanta and Boston are all playing better hockey with a better effort than us. So my point being is that the East is a hell of a lot better than it was last year and we cant just take for granted that we get into the playoffs on talent alone.

On BB, I have given him credit for making adjustments on the PK. BB is trying to maximize what he has here. At some point though the message begins to go in one ear and out the other when you have heard it from the same person to often.

I said it before over the summer, we aren't even close to being as good of a team as we were last year. C issues and D issues still remain. I think the only thing that wakes the team up is seeing their friends traded. Last year when Clark and Juice got traded they were playing ok, but then they took off on the long win streak not too long after that.

Posted by: ThePat | October 29, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"It is gut-check time for the coaching staff and entire roster. 10 games in, and hardly a decent performance yet...keep it up and there will not be talk of playoffs in Washington this year."

And yet they have the 3rd most points in the Eastern Conference. Yawn.....

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I really do not care what anyone else wants to say about me.

I love the Caps. I attend or watch every game. I make yearly road trips to visiting arenas. I haven't missed a home playoff game since my teens.

Anyone who reads these updates, posts comments or advice, and/or flames those who do is allowed their opinion...

We all (most of us) just want to see a winner on the ice. Some of us have different designs on how we as a team and fan base get there...

Regardless, I love the Caps. Anyone who loves the Caps like I do, whether right or wrong is our brother/sister...

Except for FrankM73, nobody likes him ;-)

Posted by: netminder71 | October 29, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"It is gut-check time for the coaching staff and entire roster. 10 games in, and hardly a decent performance yet...keep it up and there will not be talk of playoffs in Washington this year."

And yet they have the 3rd most points in the Eastern Conference. Yawn.....

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 11:33 AM
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Take a look up and down those standings and tell me where the Caps would be without a couple cheap wins and Neuvie...?? The bottom, that's where.

Once we hit 20, 30, 40 games in do you want the team playing like this? NO...I don't.

Carolina had a terrible start out of the gate last year, injuries, coaching turnover, etc...but they were the hottest team from Jan 1 to end of the season...they missed the playoffs because of their start.

The Caps should be 2-8 and right there with the Devils...

Luck can only get the team so far. Hard work needs to start now...

Posted by: netminder71 | October 29, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

It's early in the season, but certainly need to get the offense going. The 2nd line center is a definite need as all the experiments to date have generated minimal or brief success.

I think Ted should look at all his "assets" and depth and make a tough trade to land a talented pivot here in DC.

btw - where is DJ King - you know - one of the few guys in the league who can both fight and play - a "rarity"...yet the guy sits all season long.

Posted by: Jaymagz | October 29, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

@ThePat

I agree that some changes need to and will be made at some point during the season. IMO, this is not the time to do it. Let the current players play and see how they do over 41 games. Then you start looking to make adjustments based on how the players are playing and injuries. Waiting that long also gives the Caps the ability to acquire players with larger salaries as the $4M(approcimately) of cap space really becomes about $8M in terms of annual salary.

I just think the Caps, unless something horrible happens, need to just play the next 30 games or so where they concentrate buying into the PK system and the more defensive minded system(which they have done so far).

Then after game 41 evaluate which players are playing the system the best, which players are expungable(that depends on who you can acquire), and which players are available on the trading block.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Just playing devil's advocate here...

"but doesn't change the fact that firing him during the season would do more harm then good. " - capscoach

Not fact, merely your opinion. Along with your statements about the players loving him, him working his butt off for them, and players caring about him being so important...all opinions.

The fact is....none of us know, and can only make guesses from small clips or interviews of players. And if a player comes out and gives an honest feedback about a coach or GM...there are never reprecussions right? Come on.

Personally, I still hold the players accountable for their actions more than anyone else. After that I would have to say GMGM next for not getting those couple of highly needed pieces to complete the team. Finally BB for his reluctance to hold certain players accountable and his inability to change on the fly. I say the fly because I do agree there is more of a better PK and defensive approach being taken.

@sgm3
I totally agree with your point on where the Caps are, where other teams are, and not worrying about hitting that panic button just quite yet.

As for Semin, not his best game and I think the only reason PhilR mentioned him this time was because Semin has been our best forward in these first 10 games. So his bad games will be more noticable. And for the record, PhilR doesnt typically call Semin out negatively and praises him alot. But like me, he has openly declared himself a full member of the AFC (Anti-Flash Crew). throws up the AFC gang sign

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 29, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@sgm3

yeah third in the east and only on track for 48 wins this year, haha, simply terrible

Posted by: _stevo | October 29, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Here's some positive energy to offset the negative...

Ovie will find a way to overcome he is a machine.
Backstrom is such a gifted passer he even confounds his linemates sometimes.
Knuble may not have a goal yet, but he still goes to trouble zones few Caps go to.
Semin has great hands...bad aim...great hands.
Perreault is a worker...old school Caps team had a lot of workers
Laich...he just needs one bounce to go his way to get into a groove. He may cares.
Chimera...speed demon.
Fehr...streaky as he is, with more work he could be a modern day Kelly Miller.
Flash...he has red hair.
Steckel...he is a really nice guy off the ice.
Gordon...he wins faceoffs.
Bradley...grit, guts, desire.
DJ King...man that dude is ugly.
MarJo...his father operates a herring farm. Jury still out.
Green...he has finally learned how to drive the Lambo. Good work.
Schultz...has persevered my heckling to become a decent top 4 d-man.
Poti...is one more injury from a Guiness Record.
Erskine...is a damned tree trunk.
Carlson...will win a Norris Trophy before mike green.
Alzner...karl is a cool name.
Sloan...makes a mean PB&J.
Neuvie...is a great technical goalie, who is learning to adapt and anticipate.
Varly...is one wonky groin away from being an incredible athlete.
Holtby...will probably be better than both given time.

Bruce Boudreau...needs to get acting lessons, but when hockey is over for him, he could be the next great pitchman.

The Ameritel Triplets...nevermind...I'll let Frank go there.

Posted by: netminder71 | October 29, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Question: Can we admit that the Caps D has been playing better?(I mean we are allowing less SOG and goals than last season)

So this obviously shows BB has slightly changed his coaching and systems...it would seem natural to me that then the Offense struggles to adjust for a while.

Also...we have two young defensemen who naturally need a month or two to adjust to full time NHL work

Also...we have a new and young center who is adjusting very quickly but still struggles at times.

Also...we have been injury plagued recently and been forced to rely on Sloan and even Fahey at times (NOT BB's fault).

Despite this we have a winning record and MAYBE things are not QUITE as horrible as they seem? Don't get me wrong...I am NOT happy with their play of late...esp. last night! But I don't see the point in throwing in the towel yet and giving up./

Lastly...I GET the anti-BB thing, but do you think that firing him during the season would actually HELP the team be bette THIS SEASON? I still say wait until the end of the season to let him go if things don't improve.

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm one of the biggest BB critics, but I'm not going to blame him for last night. It was the 2nd of back-to-back away games in October. Every team has games like this and I expect a few more from this team before the season is over.

nfb987- I agree that Bruce references the AHL way too much. Just my opinion, he seems bitter about his playing career and is not truly comfortable at the NHL level.

Also, I have a bad feeling that the Caps are in rebuilding mode. I remember Leonsis saying he doesn't believe in spending money on free agents. Instead, he prefers to build through the draft. Could explain why GMGM didn't get a 2C or a few defensemen during the summer.

Posted by: ablake70 | October 29, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

So far we can see that Bruce has gotten the defense and PK to get better.

He probably told them to get a Mercedes from American Service Center, their carpets cleaned by Joe Hadeed, their insurance needs from Geico, their copiers fixed by Ameritel, and to eat a garden salad...

Mike Green looks solid in the Geico commercials, and Ovie is spot-on hocking CCM CrazyLite U+ skates...

...those are the performances of the season so far...

Posted by: netminder71 | October 29, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

@SeminAllOverTheIce

"BB does't hold players accountable"...and you KNOW this how? At least when I said players like him I have the video/audio proof of Laich, Ovie, Green, and many others SINGING his praises...sure there might be repurcussions if they said they hated him, but they are not forced to go out of their way to defend him.

and if u paid attention u would have seen I did not say that about BB as a fact....Doesn't change the fact...that phrase in normal english vernacular refers more to a personal belief.

The truth is no one on here knows ANYTHING about BB behind the bench...we draw conclusions from what we see on the ice, but we really don't know. Your statement to me is kind of the pot calling the kettle black

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Need Cody Eakin to get back in action this weekend for the Broncos after missing last Sunday's game with a hip pointer. He leads the offensivly challenged Caps organization with 8 goals. The Bears Andrew Gordon is second with 6 goals. Both scored 50 goals last season season combining the regular and post seasons.

Posted by: dull | October 29, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

To be honest, the Caps at times look as if they just don't care.

This team can go through a period of 8-10 minutes now where there is no energy, no hitting, no battling.

Simply throwing the puck into the corners or into the neutral zone and playing positional hockey.

It seems that if you have a talented hockey team and they simply don't get up for some games as much as others that eventually it comes back on the coach.

When Boudreau first took this job, he had a relationship with a number of the players going to back to their Hershey days and he was effective in getting the team to excel to make a run to the postseason in 2008.

I don't see that same kind of push or effort out of this team in 2010.

Maybe it is a layover from the shockingly poor finish in 2009-2010.

But maybe it is something more fundamental.

Solid NFL coaches like Shanahan, Gruden, Holmgren, etc. get fired.

And it's not because they lose the ability to chalk up the X's and O's.

It's because after awhile the team starts tuning out the same voice. A coach's ability to use the same motivational tactics on the same locker room erode over time.

That may be happening to Boudreau now.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | October 29, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

@RoyHobbs4

that is well said! I think BB may or may not need to be fired at the end of the season...but if he does, it is not b/c he is a really bad coach...heck he took this team in 3 seasons (less really) from last in the league to a top contender. Look at the NHL coaching as a whole...very few coaches last more that a few years. If he does get fired I hope people will at least respect the good he did for this team.

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe this really is an average team with a couple super stars? Last season may have been window dressing and they finally got exposed in the playoffs for who they really are? Not panicking in October, but still have that gut feeling that we suck like we have for the past couple years...need a legit 2nd line Canadian-leader center, and a legit skilled SAH defenseman. Same old story for many years now.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 29, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

@ lylewimbledon

Money, Money and more Money .......... we all agree with you on the center and SAH D guy but when you sit back and look at the numbers at the end of the day we don't have the budget

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

@lylewimbledon

Why only Canadian? So you wouldn't accept Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Malkin, M Koivu, H Sedin, Anze Kopitar, Joe Pavelski, Ryan Kesler or Paul Stastny? Interesting. Glad you're not GM.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

oh, boo, hoo, hoo! The Caps lose a game and the season is over. Fire the coach. fire the GM. Get rid of Fleischmen. Semin sucks. Get a real D-men (Green sucks, Schultz sucks, Altzner sucks, Carlston sucks). Oh, the humanity. The season is over. This is not the real season. Oh, boo, whah, whah …

Jesus. Get a life people, have the doctor prescribe you a bottle of prozac a day. Believe it, you don’t know as much as the GM or the coaches, the team is what it is - root for them. The team will never go undefeated, they will never have the best player at every position, they will be outplayed at times but it does not mean they suck or that the coaches are bad. GET OVER IT.

Posted by: hock1 | October 29, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

the Caps didn't just lose one game, they have lost 3 outta the last 4 playoff series.

this is a team with major flaws no matter what their regular season records indicate.

Posted by: joek443 | October 29, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"the Caps didn't just lose one game, they have lost 3 outta the last 4 playoff series."

Posted by: joek443

The Caps have a lot of different players on their team now than they had in the series against Philly. The ones they still have are much older now and have much more experience. I don't think that has much relevance anymore.

"this is a team with major flaws no matter what their regular season records indicate.
"
Posted by: joek443

Then why are you(and others) making broad conclusions based on one(or a few) regular season games this season?

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Jesus. Get a life people, have the doctor prescribe you a bottle of prozac a day. Believe it, you don’t know as much as the GM or the coaches, the team is what it is - root for them. The team will never go undefeated, they will never have the best player at every position, they will be outplayed at times but it does not mean they suck or that the coaches are bad. GET OVER IT.

Posted by: hock1

Very well said!!!

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Blaming the coach is a cop out. I don't understand why so many Caps fans refuse to hold the players accountable for what they are doing. These are grown men, they know how to play to win.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 29, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

You all make me laugh. This is not an attack, but look where we are 10 games in:

* 3rd highest points in the East
* Played no where near our potential
* Trying to switch to a more defensive style of game that should answer last year's critics
* Much better on the PK
* Fewer goals against

In other words, we are turning more defensive which will affect our scoring. Try learning a new style and it takes time so 10 games in, I am personally not worried.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | October 29, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Blaming the coach is a cop out. I don't understand why so many Caps fans refuse to hold the players accountable for what they are doing. These are grown men, they know how to play to win.

Posted by: richmondphil2

I agree completely.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Blaming the coach is a cop out. I don't understand why so many Caps fans refuse to hold the players accountable for what they are doing. These are grown men, they know how to play to win.

Posted by: richmondphil2

I agree completely.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 1:30 PM

Because don't you know you can't fire 23 players but you can fire 1 coach.

I say this sarcastically.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | October 29, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Open your eyes people, OV is not the same player he once was.

1) His conditioning is poor, probably from all the partying he does in the off season rather than taking care of himself and training hard.

2) He can't overcome the opposition's defensive schemes.

3) He's unwilling to be as physically dominant as he once was, afraid of being suspended and being called out by the media for his borderline hits.

4) He's peaked and everyone has him figured out. No creativity left.

5) Heartless captain. Rely on skill only, no mental toughness or ability to change his game be better overall. Some people just fail to be a winner and he's one of them.

Deal with it.

Posted by: BigGameSid | October 29, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

First I want to call out CTCapsPhan who says he doesn't post because of all the name calling. Really, name calling, here?

I grew up, like most of you, going to elementary school in the US, Detroit to be exact, and there was more name-calling at recess in 4th Grade than on this blog (especially now that sgm and cstanton aren't fighting. CTCapsPhan, please, just post.

Now, the Caps are 6-4 and have played an easy schedule to date. Two games against upper tier teams (Boston twice) and the Emperor was Naked!

Each day that goes by is one day closer to BB getting canned. (Because all coaches are fired eventually.) But, when is his canning?

Semin looked completely disinterested last night, especially on one particular offsides. Unless he was expecting the puck to be dumped. Whatever, it was an awful effort.

6-4 after 10 games is on pace for 98 pts. That's a 20% drop from last year? Panic? Not yet. Concern? For sure.

Yes, the defense has been better. And, yes, goaltending has been good enough to be 9-1.

No name calling. Excellent, just how we like it (Kool Aid drinkers and Dark Siders doesn't count as name calling). And, in the spirit of Halloweee, the Kool Aiders are spraying kool-aid and the Dark Siders are spewing goat's blood! A nicve spitited debate!

Do I think they should fire BB? Uncertain, but seriously think GM and Ted are worried.
Has BB's message worn off? I don't think, because, as pointed out, the D has picked up. I hoenestly don't know the answer, but sure hope the person whose job it is (GM) has it figured out. So, far McPhee has pretty much let me down on my expectations since about last March 1st (some contract extensions the exception). The team has played an easy schedule so far and they aren't playing well. As we've pointed out forever, no one can dispute, Boudreau is slow to adapt (if he does) and it seems more and more he gets outcoached and a game by game basis.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 29, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Caps problem...TOO MANY players from over the big pond....

4 of 6 top forwards are from over the pond.

Both goalies (prior to Styrofoam man getting hurt) are from over the pond...

Captain= from over the pond.

Rid some of the finesse and get some heart, grit and soul into this team and we will succeed....

Look at last year...

Flyers- Lead by Canadians and Americans.
Hawks- Lead by Canadians and Americans...


Canadians and Americans would DIE to win the cup.... players from over the big pond only want the paycheck and the glamour...and MORE OPTIONAL SKATES!

Posted by: SoaringCaps | October 29, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Caps problem...TOO MANY players from over the big pond....

4 of 6 top forwards are from over the pond.

Both goalies (prior to Styrofoam man getting hurt) are from over the pond...

Captain= from over the pond.

Rid some of the finesse and get some heart, grit and soul into this team and we will succeed....

Look at last year...

Flyers- Lead by Canadians and Americans.
Hawks- Lead by Canadians and Americans...


Canadians and Americans would DIE to win the cup.... players from over the big pond only want the paycheck and the glamour...and MORE OPTIONAL SKATES!

Posted by: SoaringCaps | October 29, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

It's pretty obvious you are a BB advocate and take it personally when people argue against him.

I also find it humorously ironic when you act like you hate the personal attacks, the way people are treated on here, are quick to call people out when they attack you, yet you have NO problem acting condescending to others and treating them as if they are less educated than you.

If you really want to throw around the re-reading one's post and tossing around grammar lessons and what not...perhaps you should notice in my post, I used the word "Personally"...meaning an opinion. So my statement about BB is my own interpretation. However if you re-look at your post, you used words such as "could" for the oppositions comments and then "fact" and "would" for yours...showing that your answer is not opinion but rather the correct answer. You were being absolute or unconditional, where as I was merely expressing a personal view/interpretation. Actually, your first post was opinionated, but then when someone disagreed, the ensuing post was a nonnegotiable one.

So no, I disagree with the whole pot kettle stab. :)

I also disagree that firing a coach mid season is the wrong thing to do and would be devastating to the team. It happens in the NHL a lot. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t pan out. Kind of like trades. Come to think of it, didn’t BB take over for a coach that was terminated in late Nov? Hmmmm. Sometimes a new coach inspires a team to play better. It really could go either way really.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 29, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

@tom

You forgot to call out the Captain, he's playing like garbage for his standards and for all the sh-- he's gone through last year, you'd expect him to come out with even more fire than in any other season.. but instead it's the exact opposite. Arguably the worst start of his career, and the Caps' play as a team is following his lead.

Posted by: BigGameSid | October 29, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Go get him SAOTI !!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ SoaringCaps

You really think that Brooks wants to win the cup more tahn Ovie ? Are you serious

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

you fire the coach when he has "lost" the team. doesn't matter when it is...

Both the Pens and Devils have done it VERY late in the season and went on to get to the Cup...

Posted by: SoaringCaps | October 29, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Where were all of these "Can BB" comments after the Carolina game? Geezus people, it is the same effing team. Everything could not have turned this bad over night. If you want to see bad go watch the Wizards.

Posted by: nimrodrsp | October 29, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal

excellent post.

I'd like to make the following comments:
-The improved PK is more than offset by poor PP.

'09-10: PP = 25.2%, PK = 78.8%, total = 104% (net positive)
'10-11: PP = 10.5%, PK = 88.6%, total = 99.1% (net negative, though only slightly).

-At what point does BB think the PP needs a strategic change? Is it possible that the PP strategy (one-timers and backdoor passes to Ovi) is too obvious to defenders?

-next few games will be interesting. Kipper has had some solid games (2? shutouts). Also, the Leafs are a great example of the type of team the Caps should - and will have to - beat consistently.

Posted by: PSD1 | October 29, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Sid,

Get to your room right now young man...and pick up those clothes off of the floor.

Love, Mario

Posted by: boomer44 | October 29, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Just curious...
Why is Pittsburgh ahead of us in the standings when we have more wins and points, and we've played the same number of games?

Posted by: jallem | October 29, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

@SoaringCaps

Who were the players who won the Conn Smythe in 2008 and 2009 from?

Hmmmm.... I think they must have wanted to win the SC some.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

SAOTI, bqts, netminder and tominsocal1,

The meeting for the weekly goat sacrifice is tonight at midnight. We will have your black hooded robes ready for you and you will be given the official oath to join the "haters society" as well. The final part of the initiation will be the drinking of the goat blood followed by a spirited discussion of who the gritiest players of all time are.

Please don't be late!!

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

@ jallem

Goal +/- I guess with out even looking

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Fix the PP -- It's really stale, move Ovie off the point, try something different, everyone knows what to do since Montreal shut it down. BB needs to change it up and get creative.... And Flash looks like he's skating in mud, man he needs to get the lead out.

Posted by: topshelf | October 29, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

@ Phil R

Will you be the witness for our membership forms or as the chair person are you allowed to witness them ???????????

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else find it funny that BigGameSid feels the need to try and talk up his team and player. Hmm, did you annoy too many people on your own Pens blog and come here to try and redeem yourself in their eyes? Because here we just laugh at you and get a good chuckle from your asinine postings.

Hope to see you at the WC this year rocking your baby powder blues and that AMAZING sad and dejected look on the Pens fans faces after Ovie and Caps whoop that trick. (do I get bonus points for splicing in a Hustle n Flow quote?)

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 29, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Arguably the worst start of his career, and the Caps' play as a team is following his lead.

Posted by: BigGameSid

And yet Crosby only has one more goal than Ovie and the Caps have a better record than the Pens. Imagine what will happen when Ovie actually starts playing good.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

@ SAOTI

ROTILMAO

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about Sid you guys, it's about the almighty Caps and their almighty offense that has been reduced to a pile of mush.

Seriously, at least one would expect this type of offense to show up more during the reg season. It's not even the playoffs yet and OV & Co. have already gone into hiding!

Well at least your hopes and expectations should fall down by quite a bit once the playoffs start.. makes the disappointment of never winning a Cup with this bunch of mental softies not as bad I guess.

By the way, I'm surprised I have barely seen anyone defend OV on here... what's going on? Maybe you all finally realize that he has major problems with his game and isn't as great as you all think he is? Great talent and skill, but nothing inside that thick skull of his. Too bad.

Posted by: BigGameSid | October 29, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

bqts,

Oh yeah, I am a card carrying member according to most on this blog so I will certainly be there to oversee the taking of the oath!

Posted by: PhilR | October 29, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

This isn't about Sid, the Pens or anybody else, we can play the comparison game when you actually win a Cup for once...

It's about why the Caps are so bad right now, and why they consistently fail to show up, and fail the same way over and over when the going gets tough especially with all that talent in their lineup.

Posted by: BigGameSid | October 29, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

@BigGameSid

out of curiosity, how would you assess the Pens' start and the performance of Crosby so far? Would you say that Crosby's 6G, 6A, 0GW are a better start than - in your words - Ovi's worst start of his career (5G, 5A, 2GW)?

Posted by: PSD1 | October 29, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey Cry Baby Fan

Get off your knees and walk away, go clean Marios house or something we are not listening to you unless you goat for tonight, in that case stick around .......

Mid night you said Phil right ????

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"It's about why the Caps are so bad right now, and why they consistently fail to show up, and fail the same way over and over when the going gets tough especially with all that talent in their lineup."

And yet they still have a better record than the Penguins.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 29, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

BigGameSid=IDIOT

Posted by: nimrodrsp | October 29, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

@ nimrodrsp

Careful he might come up behind you as you are bent over and punch you in the ........

Posted by: bqts | October 29, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

@SeminAllOverTheIce

I am a Caps TEAM supporter...and I said BB may need to be fired (maybe not though) I surely don't hate the guy, but he def. has areas to improve on. We disagree about the consequences of firing BB mid season...I think it would just hurt the team more...you were the one to pick apart my comments, so yes when you said something that you had nothing to back it up with I pulled the pot and kettle quote...I really don't consider that a personal jab or even a jab at all...I also don't think I am rude (mostly) when I argue with someone here. Not sure why when I dissagree with you it is suddenly an attack and you get huffy? You only look at the parts of my commens that support your theory that I am a koolaid drinker or BB lover...Most of the time I recognize the bad parts of the game (please see earlier posts) and then try to look at some positives...I also refuse to panick after a mere 10 games...lots of teams are struggling right now and we are included. You may be right that BB is hopeless and the sytstem we play won't fly, but I refuse to stress about that when I still have 6-8 months left in the season.

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

@PhilR

I do not think I am allowed to join being that I am an adament Semin supporter. I also still have faith in the Caps for taking the conference still. I just noticed some short comings (cough cough Flush).

I also still do Goat Blood Bombs...which are half a glass of the goats blood, and you drop a shot of the kool-aid in there...then chug. mmmm tasty, tastes similar to the 5-Hour Energy drink pomegranate flavor.

@boomer
Lol, those are my favorite posts against PenTrolls. It's just funny. Wonder if he has a bed time?

Mario: Right now Cind....or'll you'll be grounded for the game tomorrow

Cindy: But Mr. Lemieux, the west coast game isnt over...it's not fair, it's not fair...i'll hold my breath til I turn blue

Mario: Well that would be stupid, because then you would look just as ugly as our throwback jerseys. NOW BED MISTER or no more sleep overs with Geno.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 29, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

@PSD1

that was a good one! but you really shouldn't encourage the child...

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@PSD1

that was a good one! but you really shouldn't encourage the child...

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Regardless, I love the Caps. Anyone who loves the Caps like I do, whether right or wrong is our brother/sister...

Except for FrankM73, nobody likes him ;-)

Posted by: netminder71
AND
---
...The Ameritel Triplets... nevermind... I'll let Frank go there.

Posted by: netminder71
--------
Gone for a 3 hour meeting and ripped twice by netminder71... unprovoked too! Hardly unexpected and undeserved though! lol

Still can't believe the Triplets have their own Facebook page... Lamesauce!

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 29, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

This is my last response in relation to this garble. As mentioned in my original post, I was merely playing devil's advocate with your absolute as opposed to opinion statement. The personal attack was not calling me a pot kettle kettle pot, it was the obvious way you were attempting to talk down to me as if far superior in intelligence. Probably not the best idea to do when you don’t know the person you are treating like that as it is often perceived as very rude. I also nowhere stipulated that I was in panic mode, quite the contrary. Perhaps you are confusing my posts with others?

And not that it’s worth anything, nor is it relevant or important to anyone…but my opinion is you are team fan and according with the laws within CI, I would classify you as a kool-aid drinker. And yes, I have read many of your posts and even with some of your opposing views would still classify you as one…just not as hard core as some. In fact smg3 actually records himself on dvd reciting them and then lets me borrow them so I can catch up on the ones I missed while laying in bed…73 so far (ZING, sorry sgm3, had to toss in a little side humor at your expense).

Bygones be bygones?

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 29, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

@seminallovertheice
sorry if u thought I was talking down to you as that was not how I was trying to come across...I work in a school and maybe my kids speech/tone sometimes transfers over?

and fyi...half the time I defend BB it is b/c I feel like playing devil's advocate...though I have NO problem admitting to being a koolaid drinker (in the way it is defined on CI)

didn't get the whole 73 zing thing, but thats ok

Go Caps! Shout out to all my fellow optimistic the caps are not doomed yet koolaid drinkers :)

Posted by: capscoach | October 29, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1,

Tom, that is so not like you to be so condescending. What has happened to you?

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | October 29, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

As much as I hate to say it, Danny Carcillo would've looked good in white last night....a fight late in the first/early in the second period could've provided the spark we needed. Unfortunately, when it comes to fighting we're always reacting to a situation and never initiating one. Personally, I think Ron Wilson would be the best coach for this team. Gotta love how he dresses and rolls Colton Orr every night. So we've got DJK and only dress him against teams we think might take liberties with us. Why do we always try to "match-up" with other teams instead of forcing them to match-up against us?

Posted by: vermontcaps | October 29, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Dear Rod Langway:

Will you please come home? We miss the real Secretary of Defense.

Signed,

Your Favorite Organist

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | October 29, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I remember through the summer there was a lot of talk here that this season the regular season didn't really matter as long as the Caps make the playoffs. It was suggested they would be better off not winning the PT or even finishing #1 in the East. Now, here they are following that script exactly and suddenly the regular season (and only 10 games) is the most important thing in the world ("they could be 2 - 8.") I don't remember who was posting on this and frankly I don't care enough to even consider looking it up, so would you please stand up and admit your hypocrisy?

Also, I disagree that the schedule has been a very soft one. They have played very good teams in Boston & Nashville, Carolina who always gives us a battle. Also they have had the "privilige" of playing home openers for 3 teams, including the one in Atlanta that also had the Pavlec factor (I believe they rallied around him). NYI are a team the Caps should beat easily but somehow never do. The biggest disappoinments have been the Ottawa game (almost a dysfunctional as NJ) and last night, even though the game started less than 24 hrs after the Car. game in another time zone and Minn is a very disciplined team if not all that talented.

Bottom line, if the Caps are still playing erratically by Christmas I might put down the Kool-aid and try a sip of goat's blood.

Posted by: ds_kelly | October 29, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

jallem,

that's because the Pens are leading the Atlantic while the Caps are in 2nd in the SE. places 1-3 in the conf are held by the division leaders, 4-15 are in order of points.

CT Caps fan,

Blog has changed since we were regulars, no?

Big Sid,

You still haven't convinced me to sell my season tickets and join the dark side. And for the record, Ov's worst start was the year his grand dad was sick.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 29, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

CTCapsPhan: Sorry, should have put a smiley face on that. Was said half in jest, half in frustration because several former regulars here drop by sometimes just to complain about "name calling" when there is, in fact, very little of that (compared to ther blogs I've read). My bad if you took it like that.

You'll note that I suggested to basically ignore any of that and "please post."

I will stand by what I said, though, and that is that there's more name-calling at 4th grade recess than here. I think we've got it pretty good here and that most of the banter is done within the bounds of civility.

Again, sorry for the confusion, please ignore whatever name calling you see and post. I believe we also have a few trolls around, which again is bothersome to a few. The best advise really is don't answer them and they will go away.

PhilR: I must decline your kind invitation. I need to stay in the middle of the road. I might watch though if it's also OK if I attend a pep rally being sponsored by the Kool Aid drinkers.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 29, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

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