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The home stretch of training camp

Morning Roundup

Following a wake-up call from the Predators on Sunday, the Capitals were even more focused on getting to the regular season and moving on to games that count.

"I think as a group we just want the real stuff to start," Tom Poti said. "The preseason really doesn't mean much. You just want to try to be firing on all cylinders when the regular season starts. We want to be crisp, we want to be sharp and fine tune our system. We just have to make sure that by game one, there's no questions about the system or how we want to do things, and we have several days of practice to keep working on that."

So given that everything in the preseason is taken with a grain of salt, now that the Capitals have wrapped up a 5-1 exhibition schedule and are four days away from the regular season opener in Atlanta on Friday, what questions remain as prominent as ever?

-- Which forwards make the regular-season roster? The battle for likely two open forward positions that has been discussed since the start of training camp didn't have any obvious answers at the conclusion of the preseason.

In the competition for the third-line center spot, both Marcus Johansson and Mathieu Perreault have things they can improve upon but neither will impact team speed or play-making ability negatively. The biggest surprise here may be how well Johansson has adjusted to the North American style of game. Despite his lack of success on faceoffs, his natural defensive instincts are a definite asset should the Capitals elect to have him in the mix when the season starts.

As for the other position, and a chance to be perhaps part of a rotation on the fourth line, it's hard to say that Jay Beagle, Andrew Gordon or Matt Hendricks has really separated himself from the others.

-- Can both Semyon Varlamov and Michal Neuvirth stay healthy? This is more of a question that will need the full season to play out, but it still impacts depth now. The team has been very cautious in handling Varlamov's undisclosed injury (or any player's, for that matter), making sure he took time to rest since being ruled out of a preseason game last Tuesday. Things will certainly get interesting if they can't remain healthy throughout the course of the season.

The good news, though, is that Neuvirth has consistently improved throughout the preseason and said he was "finally feeling like myself" in a sharp performance against Nashville.

-- While the penalty kill may still be a work in progress, it certainly appears as though the players have all bought in to the more aggressive approach that the coaches wanted to instill in the unit during camp. Also, get used to seeing some more of the Caps' skilled forwards drawing shifts on the penalty kill this season.

Preseason success for the unit has created a definite sense of optimism in improving one of the Capitals' larger weaknesses from last year, but the ultimate test is how the penalty killers fare over the length of the season.

-- How will the Capitals' defensive pairings shake out? It appears as though John Erskine and Tyler Sloan will play a rotational role as the team's sixth defenseman on any given night, but it's hard to know who they will be playing with. Coach Bruce Boudreau has said he isn't afraid to put Karl Alzner and John Carlson together because of the chemistry they've demonstrated in the past, which could lead to veteran Poti playing with either Erskine or Sloan, assuming Mike Green and Jeff Schultz stay together as the top pairing.

-- Can Tomas Fleischmann stick in the second-line center role? He's been given the opportunity, but after he sat out a few preseason games and practices, it's hard to read too much into training camp.

IN THE MINORS
Hershey has made its latest round of cuts. Five players, including Anton Gustafsson, were sent to South Carolina.

After spending a chunk of his offseason rehabbing a knee injury, Zach Miskovic appears to have rebounded well.

Defenseman Josh Godfrey may have helped his cause by playing with a hard-hitting edge when the Bears defeated Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, 5-1, on Saturday night.

AROUND THE WEB
Former Capital Brendan Morrison is still looking for a new team after being released from his professional tryout contract with the Vancouver Canucks.

The latest addition to the new slate of advertisements featuring the Capitals is the NHL's new campaign for the start of the season, "Questions will become answers". Below is Alex Ovechkin's installment:

By Katie Carrera  | October 4, 2010; 9:34 AM ET
Categories:  Andrew Gordon, Jay Beagle, Jeff Schultz, John Carlson, John Erskine, Karl Alzner, Marcus Johansson, Mathieu Perreault, Matt Hendricks, Michal Neuvirth, Mike Green, Morning Roundup, Semyon Varlamov, Tom Poti, Tomas Fleischmann, Tyler Sloan  
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Comments

Go figure, the minute I post on the previous thread (while waiting for an update), the update happens. Haha...oh well.

Rosters have to be finalized by the 6th?

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

WINTER CLASSIC JERSEY QUESTION

Good Morning,

I was unable to make it to the Caps Convention this weekend for the festivities but I had a question about the jerseys and what information they might have to offer there. Does anyone know if they will have authentic winter classic jerseys available with customizations available? What options where available at the convention when it said it would be the first time you could buy the jerseys?

Any information would be helpful and thank you for your time.

Posted by: padams2 | October 4, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

hmmm...

Might finally be time for me to change my handle!

Fehr is coming along nicely now, so in an effort to save another underperforming first rounder...

I SHALL HENCEFORTH BE KNOWN AS...(Drum roll please)

wtf_a_gustafsson !!!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 4, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

padams,

For authentic you might want to try icejerseys.com, not sure if the nhl store will offer replicas only.

You could also check at Kettler.

I didn't see any WC jerseys for sale at the convention or any info on availability.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

@wtf -not that my opinion matters, but I like your new handle. It can't hurt baby gus.

Drop the puck already!!!!!

Posted by: jwash4472 | October 4, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Katie, will the post have an iphone app for hockey like they do for football? I'd be very interested if they do.

Posted by: jwash4472 | October 4, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

@ PhilR...glad you enjoyed the game Friday night, I was there as well. I must say re AGordon, he looked like a AHL player, not someone who could play on the Caps third line or even 4th line. He would have to unseat Fehr & Bradley & I don't see that happening. I would rather have B Gordon, Beagle or Hendricks because all three give versatility by playing Wing or Center. A Gordon looked a half step behind the pace, couldn't finish the chances he had, and took a couple of stupid penalties. Just my opinion, I think he is a depth player, but I would like to hear from others who saw him play Friday.

Posted by: boomer44 |


The first penalty called on him was complete BS, the ref called him for taking a dive which certainly did not look like a dive to me. The holding the stick penalty, yeah that was on him.

I think that King/Beagle/AGordon line was a very good disruptive line. They were buzzing around and did have quite a few scoring chances especially in the second period although they failed to pot any of them.

Mark my words, if they lose AGordon to waivers we as fans will be looking back on it in a couple years as a really stupid move. The guy will be a solid 3rd line player in the NHL.

Posted by: PhilR | October 4, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

@Steve_R

Thanks. I appreciate it. I have used icejerseys.com before. I just hope to get it in time for the game.

Thanks for your help.

Posted by: padams2 | October 4, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

naaaaaaah

forget it.

I have not heard nor seen anything good about young Gus, and I think he has BUST written aaaalllll over him.

hope im wrong, but my gut didnt like that pick from the beginning.

most of us were upset when the draft went:

fehr
getzlaf
...richards,perry

but fehr is gonna be ok...

BUT! what about:

baby gus
eberle
{insert late 1st rounder who turns out to be great}
...


I can hear the high pitched whinin' now!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 4, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Mark my words, if they lose AGordon to waivers we as fans will be looking back on it in a couple years as a really stupid move. The guy will be a solid 3rd line player in the NHL.

Posted by: PhilR | October 4, 2010 10:26 AM

I will be looking at it as a terrible loss as soon as it happens...so lets just hope it doesnt!!!!!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 4, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Maybe BB will get confused and waive the wrong Gordon. Hmm was it A Gordon or B Gordon...we will go with B Gordon. opps

Anyone at the games Sunday watch the mites? The one poor kid was wearing a full adult jersey and it reached the laces of his skates. He skated wearing a Caps dress. Was pretty funny to see.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I hate to sound like this but this team come april is doomed.

Again we saw yesterday afternoon, What happens when we go up a team that plays defensive against us. Trotz said it best when he said "We played our game, and not thier game"

Caps coaches dont adjust and rely and hope on talent alone to win. Well guess what? Not going to happen.

Also I hope Marcus Johannson and Jay Beagle make up our 2nd and 3rd line centers. The two knolls dressing like Flush and MP are a complete joke.

If changes arent made by the coaches the Caps arent going to go far. I hate to say it, It wont matter what players are brought in, They all have to play BB's system and come playoff time, His system sucks. Plain and simple.

Posted by: darrylrbaker | October 4, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Kind of hard to judge from that game along dont ya think?

Backs was out, which throws off the center position all the way down the line. Carlson was out and replaced by Fahey. Neuvy was swapped out midway through the game.

It was preseason, not regular season. Play is different during the regular season.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

PhilR...I agree the dive was bogus, but he wasn't as strong on the puck as advertised, & that line didn't finish any of the chances they generated...he might be able to be a good 3rd liner in the NHL, but I don't see him playing for the Caps right now, we could keep him as a spare part on the roster, but I don't see him replacing Fehr or Bradley in the lineup

Posted by: boomer44 | October 4, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

A. Gordon needs to stay, even if he has to ride the pine for a season for a spot to clear up. if Caps brass is still gonna hoard flash then keeping Gordon up likely means that Perrault will get snet down since he doesn't have to clear waivers.

Of course a more playoff roster would have less fleischmann and more Gordon and Hendricks in it.

Posted by: GFisher1 | October 4, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Also I hope Marcus Johannson and Jay Beagle make up our 2nd and 3rd line centers. The two knolls dressing like Flush and MP are a complete joke.

__________________________

how exactly is MP a joke?

Posted by: _stevo | October 4, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Don't give up on Gus, Jr. yet. Hey, it's easy to think of him as a sentimental pick for the Caps but you gotta remember, he was highly rated going into that draft. That was a solid pick. Hope he still pans out. Give him another year or so, then we'll see. (Now, Bourque Jr., sadly, that was a bust).

Gotta change my handle, too. I'm no longer in Atlanta. I'm back in Japan (where it's Monday, midnight).

Posted by: CAP-lanta | October 4, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

MJ for third line, until he is ready to take Flash, who should be traded for a gritty, skating, and passing blueliner to pair with Green. But then who do you pair with re-signed Poti? At 3rd pairing, it may be a moot point. MP could also start as 2nd line center if a Flash trade can be worked out. If you think the Caps will burn in flames without a great 2nd line center to start the year -- BMo still is not part of the NHL, at all. The Canucks said cya to him even on a try-out basis, weak.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | October 4, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

boomer,

That was the first time those three guys played together and how many scoring chances did they have? They may not have potted them but they were making life he!! on the opposition. Give that line five or six games together and they start burying those chances.

GFisher,

Absolutely agree that they need more Hendricks/AGordon/Bradley/Beagle types and less Flash/BGordon/Steckel's who won't go out and do the necessary "dirty" work.

There is plenty of scoring in those top two lines, especially if Flash is gone replaced by MaJo and Fehr is moved up where he belongs. The 3rd and 4th lines need to knock the snot out of people and create havock. Please, just say no to a finesse 3rd and 4th line!

Posted by: PhilR | October 4, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

"Hate to sound like this but this team come april is doomed.

Again we saw yesterday afternoon, What happens when we go up a team that plays defensive against us."

ROTFLMAO. Are you serious? Really serious? The team played Friday night and then was at the Convention all day Saturday. They have a noon game the next day, a pre-season game that means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...not a thing, to any of the players except don't get hurt. The goalie who let in all three goals is going to be the backup in HERSHEY for crying out loud.

People are seriously whining about this and doing the "season is doomed" thing? OMG that's hysterical.

Posted by: jollyroger2 | October 4, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

@darrylrbaker
b/c gmgm can't make a trade or aquisition between now and the deadline...I lmao at the people who throw this team under the bus before the season even starts! There is NO way to predict what will happen between now and April. People are way to doom and gloom on here sometimes. Sure we have problems that need to be adressed, but the way some people talk, you would think we were the same team before the lockout with no fans and a team that couldn't beat another team even if they booby-trapped the ice!

Posted by: capscoach | October 4, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

PhilR...I agree the dive was bogus, but he wasn't as strong on the puck as advertised, & that line didn't finish any of the chances they generated...he might be able to be a good 3rd liner in the NHL, but I don't see him playing for the Caps right now, we could keep him as a spare part on the roster, but I don't see him replacing Fehr or Bradley in the lineup

Posted by: boomer44 | October 4, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

@jollyroger2

Yeah, the overreaction by people on here is starting to get ridiculous. Especially considering many of those same people were ranting all summer how the regular season was absolutely meaningless. Yet, when the Caps lose one preseason game the season is suddenly over.

When the Caps win a bunch of games during the regular season those poster will come on and say that the regular season is meaningless. Yet, if the Caps lose a game they will say how certain plays are indicative of how the Caps have no chance in the playoffs.

Accoding to these people, any good play during the regular season is not indicative of how the team will play in the postseason. But any poor play during the regular season is indicative of how the Caps will play in the playoffs.

There seems to be something wrong with that line of reasoning.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

@CAP-lanta

Hmm, so now CAP-pan? CAP-okyo? CAP-onshu? CAP-saka? CAP-yoto?

And FYI he isnt Lil' Gus...he's Half & Half. Half the genes, half the talent. Lil' Bust works as well :)


Wonder if they make any cuts/waives today or will wait until late tomorrow to make final cuts.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

@Semin

You got your Japan geography down cold. Impressive. I would be CAP-saka (working in Osaka).

Lil' Bust (ouch!)

Posted by: CAP-lanta | October 4, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

SAOTI,

Lil' Bust is right on point I would think. That high of a draft pick and he can't even make the AHL roster??!!

I'm hoping to hear a trade announced today so maybe the "waives" will not have to happen!

Posted by: PhilR | October 4, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

good morning all:

1) Friday night's game was a good effort by the Caps. I liked that they played physical, as a team.

2) MP85, while tenacious, is just too small to be a 2nd line center in the NHL. I saw him pushed off the puck or out of the way several times on Friday & Sunday. 3rd line center? sure.

3) Given the performance yesterday by the Caps, looks like the old problem of motivation is still hanging around. Didn't hurt the Preds that Pekka Rinne was in net and playing very well.

4) Flush is just a flush.

5) PhilR, stopped by section 430 late in the 2nd intermission. Did not see kids/adoult matching your description. Will try again in the future.

6) Preds played nice D on OV. Maybe it is just me, but I think OV is going to have to add some new tools in his offensive repetoire.

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Hmm I just had a thought. Trade Flash to Dick's Sporting Goods for a tennis racket attachment for a hockey stick. We can then give said stick to Mike Green for when he is playing point on the PP? :P

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

@darrylrbaker
b/c gmgm can't make a trade or aquisition between now and the deadline...I lmao at the people who throw this team under the bus before the season even starts! There is NO way to predict what will happen between now and April.

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no way huh? i dunno, from watching the team in the early part of last season it didn't appear to me they looked like a real contender. And even though there was "plenty of time" to address their holes, they didn't do it. So why would that change THIS year? I guess it could, but is it likely?


And that was after they actually made a quality offseason addition in MK.
This yr, they didn't improve over the offseason. Whether or not Alzner > ShaMo is highly debatable esp at this point in Alzner's young career. And the effect of having MaJo/Flash in the lineup also is up in the air.

And I guess, what does "doomed" really mean? Going on past performances and trends, one can certainly make an educated judgment about this team and say they probably don't have what it takes to win the Cup this yr. But certainly after watching them for the first 25-30 games, we'll gain a better understanding. I don't need to see the entire season play itself out to reach a conclusion about this team's chances.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, the overreaction by people on here is starting to get ridiculous. Especially considering many of those same people were ranting all summer how the regular season was absolutely meaningless. Yet, when the Caps lose one preseason game the season is suddenly over.

There seems to be something wrong with that line of reasoning
---sgm--

the only thing wrong is your characterization of what the ranting consisted of. The reg season isn't completely meaningless. And no one said it was. Its meaningFUL in the sense you need to win enough games obviously, but equally so in that you get to develop your style and system (and tweak personnel) to get ready for the playoffs.

Where the entire debate came around was the perception that:

1) The Caps org fools themselves into thinking their team is a great playoff contender based on their reg season record.

and

2) some of the fan base buys into that flawed way of thinking as well.

And the problem with this line of thinking is, the "holes" aren't filled. Then you go into the playoffs with what amounts to a pretender instead of a contender and we get to watch this team exit stage early again.

That's the disagreement between the 2 sides, if you will. Don't misstate it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Wonder if the Devils will snag Morrison up if they can sign him cheap? Given their constraints that is.

I bet the phones are ringing for many GMs today. I hope one of those rings is for/from GMGM. Make it happen George.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

That nimrod darrylbaker posted the same hoo-hah on the Capitals' website. Apparently, I'm hoping with all his doom and gloom that he can't bear to watch the season and opts out of making us "listen" to him pee on himself about how horrible the team is going to be in 7 months. Sheesh. Optimistic much?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 4, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The sky is falling the sky is falling! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 4, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

6) Preds played nice D on OV. Maybe it is just me, but I think OV is going to have to add some new tools in his offensive repetoire.

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they played the body effectively. Even Ryan Parent. Which is a real shocker. He was about as physical as Schultz has been in the past.

Still, the Preds are far from being one of the NHL's physical teams. There's Weber, Bouillon, Suter (sometimes), Smithson, Colin Wilson, and Tootoo. Belak wasn't even in. And it remains to be seen if Parent will keep it up. The Caps shouldn't be losing any physical battles against a team like Nashville or the BJackets.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I don't care what the advanced stats say, Backstrom is the best and most important player on this team. I'm not saying that because of the last preseason game. I've been saying that going back a season and a half. His growth since entering the league is quietly as responsible as anything else for the Caps' becoming a good team other than perhaps Boudreau.

We've seen a lot of players miss time and the Caps continue to win games.

The one player that has never missed extended time, or even a game for that matter, is Backstrom.

He's the engine behind this team. No other forward touches the puck more than him and nobody is as complete of a player. He's highly intelligent, skilled, and makes positive plays consistently in all 3 zones.

Just watch what happens if he ever has to miss 10-15 games.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 4, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

First, I didn't misstate anything.

Second, although your post was not overly argumentative this time I think it is best for us to not respond to each other's posts. We've done a good job the past week or so. So lets try to continue with not responding to each other. It's the best for everybody.

Have a good day.

Regards,
sgm3

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

What does Lou have up his sleeve? Obviously the Devils have got to be active today and tomorrow to make it under the cap but what will they do? I hear Toronto is looking for centre's as well, maybe Burke will be fool enough to take Flasj off our hands? (wishfull thinking)

All you capologist's out there.....Are there any other teams out there that have to make moves to get under the cap??

Posted by: PhilR | October 4, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Who likes watching movies with an outspoken critic in the theatre with you, telling you what's about to happen or that the movie blows? I certainly don't. I'll reserve comments about the movie after it's over. Until then, wouldn't you rather hope that the movie is pretty good or would you rather complain about paying for a ticket for a movie you're only watching because for some inane reason you want people to know how much you dislike it, the price of popcorn or the quality of the nacho cheese and then sit and complain about the movie through its' entirety and then disapprove of the other people who went in there trying to enjoy it but can't because you decided if you weren't happy about it, no one else should be happy about the movie.

Makes you wonder why some people even bother to watch the Capitals if from the get-go, they find problems with the product and feel the need for everyone to know how much they hate them and the management and the defense and the lack of consistency. Of course, they'll say they never said they hated the Capitals, just find them imperfect and flawed and embarrassing, but really those are the words you use when you describe how much you like something. I disagree.

*clicks mute button*

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 4, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

That nimrod darrylbaker posted the same hoo-hah on the Capitals' website. Apparently, I'm hoping with all his doom and gloom that he can't bear to watch the season and opts out of making us "listen" to him pee on himself about how horrible the team is going to be in 7 months. Sheesh. Optimistic much?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan |


oh look, another post by LeftCoast that has nothing to do with hockey specifics but yet consists of commenting on another poster. Like I just did.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Most of the time seeing ovechkin on the ice he looks kind of normal, tall and lean I guess, similiar to the other players on ice. But that commercial really makes him look like a tank when he's training.

230lbs of muscle is pretty scary hah

Posted by: breaklance | October 4, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

First, I didn't misstate anything.
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umm actually, yeah you did. When you characterize a certain viewpoint inaccurately, that means you are misstating it. And if no one else will call you out for it, I will.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

On a side note to all the really Caps issues.......... Can some please explain to me why they must play that STUPID song "rock the red". It is so so lame I want to vomit everytime they play it. There is nothing to that song that reflects the way the caps play hockey, maybe if it was a figure skating team it would work.
BAN THAT SONG NOW !!!!!!!!!!!

Shout out to section 115

Drop the Puck !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bqts | October 4, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Who likes watching movies with an outspoken critic in the theatre with you, telling you what's about to happen or that the movie blows? I certainly don't. I'll reserve comments about the movie after it's over. Until then, wouldn't you rather hope that the movie is pretty good
---LFT-

its a very weak analogy. But no, not everyone goes into a movie without some preconceived notion about it. Usually based on some type of RESEARCH. I don't blindly buy tickets for movies unless I have a pretty good idea its going to suit my style. And similarly, I don't have to wait until game 7 of the 1st round of the playoffs to make any comments about the Caps which are meaningful. Do you?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

JIM...: If the other d-man is brought in as you suggest to be paired with Green, Schultz could move to be paired with Poti.

Green/new guy down the road?
Alzner/Carlson
Poti/Schultz

Not a bad set of D-men if the new guy is a solid stay @ home defenseman.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 4, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I think cstanton1 makes a good point sgm3, but as usual, went about explaining in the wrong manner. He seems to just like to post a little more agressively towards your posts. He has often said we over value doing well in the regular season and has said that we need to use the regular season to fine tune our team to be playoff ready come April. I cannot think of a time where he has said the regular season doesnt matter.

@PhilR
There are a few teams that need cap room and roster spots filled. Toronto, Devils, Calgary, to name a few. Think my buddy said at last check there were about 4-5 teams worse off than NJ.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

230lbs of muscle is pretty scary hah

Posted by: breaklance | October 4, 2010 11:55 AM

Yes, it is.

Unfortunately, so is his decision-making and predictability at times.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 4, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

But once again, you're going into another season with a list of things you dislike about the team and justify your hautiness as superior hockey intellect. Why bother watching the season if you already know or have an idea that they're going to lose? It sounds like a waste of time for you to even bother. I'm sure you have other productive things to do with your time than watch a team of losers. Save yourself the time. And I say this with the utmost respect.

With other posters who also have similar concerns as you, they come off as somewhat hopeful, whereas your concerns are drenched in cynicism and disrespect to the players, the management, and any fan who even remotely wishes to be hopeful or excited about the season.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 4, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

I get it...you think the Caps suck! OF COURSE I am concerned about their post-season effectiveness...I just really don't see the point in stressing about it in OCTOBER! There is nothing we can do about last season right now (unless GMGM hires you as a consultant and you wave your magic wand and make everything you want to happen happen.)

I ENJOY THE CAPS! they are exciting and I know you disagree with this, but I think last season was their FIRST real playoff blunder under BB...we lost in round 2 game 7 to the eventual SC champs. Sure it REALLY sucked that it was the Pens and I almost broke my hand punching the sofa and then cried for an hour (I am allowed to cry...b/c I am a girl)

The truth is ANYTHING could happen between now and April! The Flyers only made it to the playoffs in the last game on a shootout goal and then proceeded to the finals...and then got their asses handed to them. but whatever.

Would it really kill you to just enjoy the moment every once in a while? They are a fun team...they have potential and have improved every year...only ONE team wins the cup every year...and we probably won't again this season...but that does not mean we suck!

Posted by: capscoach | October 4, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Nucks and Boston are over by a lot, but should be ok for a bit by putting people on LTIR

Posted by: Steve_R | October 4, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm anxious to see what happens with MJ. I saw him a development camp, where he did not stand out. By rookie camp, he was showing his speed and skill with the puck and looked very solid. In the preseason with the big club, he has generally been very impressive and looks like he belongs here. But what's the deal with the face-offs? People over the weekend posted here that face-offs are irrelevant, but I question that, especially for a puck-possession team like the Caps and especially for a guy who they would want to play on the PK. Remember, we're not talking about the difference between a 45% and 55% player - we're talking about a guy who is virtually incapable of winning face-off at the NHL level. I wonder whether they will want to send him to Hershey to work on that.

Posted by: zmega | October 4, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

tmac: i hear you on Backie. The guy is an underappreciated talent both in the NHL and on the Caps. That is okay with me if he is posting numbers similar to last year

cstanton likes to needle sgm3 because he is a donk!

cstanton: more and more, teams are playing OV's body and not the puck.

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Hershey's been ratcheting up their intensity in getting prepared for the reg season. 8 or 9 fights in their 1st two games. They did send one of those guys (Stevenson) to the ECHL. And another (Schrock) back to his IHL team. Looks like Bruess got into 2 scraps including a linebrawl in yesterday's game.

"The BEARS have reassigned goaltender Jared DeMichiel, right wing David de Kastrozza, center Jake Hauswirth, defenseman Dustin Stevenson and forward Anton Gustafsson to South Carolina (ECHL). Additionally, HERSHEY assigned left wing Kaleigh Schrock to Fort Wayne (IHL) and released defenseman Wes O'Neill from his player tryout contract. "
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Defenseman Josh Godfrey helped his cause to make the 2010-11 Hershey Bears Saturday night at Giant Center.

Godfrey, at the epicenter of a 5-1 exhibition win against the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins, had a goal and an assist.

But since his big-shot offensive prowess is already well-known, it was his hard-hitting, nasty-edged play that really went down as a plus on his evaluation ledger sheet.

“To see him play with a little bit of bite is adding another dimension to his game,” Bears head coach Mark French said. “You can’t be a one-trick pony. There’s got to be something else to your game. He showed a little bit more of a mean streak.

“He’ll be in the lineup [Sunday against Bridgeport]. And if he helps his cause again, then that enhances his chances of being here next Saturday [for the regular-season opener].”

nice comment by French about "one-trick" ponies. We got a few of those up here in DC.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

zmega,

Ever notice how epicly crappy Malkin is at faceoffs?

Posted by: Steve_R | October 4, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

I get it...you think the Caps suck!
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no, you don't get it at all. If you start a rebuttal with a complete exaggeration then what's the point.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Anton BUSTafsson

Posted by: chrisclarksucks | October 4, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

The truth is ANYTHING could happen between now and April!

--capscoach--

really? you think Columbus and Florida could face off in the Finals this year?

the truth is, there are certain teams who have a chance at the Cup, and certain teams who have NO chance at the Cup. That's the truth. This thing about "anything can happen" is just a pipedream. Teams don't win Cups on pipedreams. You have to have a very good understanding on what it takes to win the Cup and you have to follow thru on that with systems and personnel.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

i think some of the cstanton haters recharacterize his comments in a way that make him sound negative. sure, he points out shortcomings; big deal. however, he is coming from the same perspective as the kool-aid drinkers: as a Caps fan.

if you want yoga harmony, give Japer's Rink a go. By the way, they censor you for using the word "homer" there.

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

umm actually, yeah you did. When you characterize a certain viewpoint inaccurately, that means you are misstating it. And if no one else will call you out for it, I will.

Posted by: cstanton1

Ummm, actually no. It was characterized accurately. You disagree, fine. If anyone else cares they can read my post and determine for themselves.

Also, I do like how you gave yourself credit for saying that the Caps wouldn't win the SC last year. You do know that 29 of the 30 teams do not win the SC every year.

So I will make 30 predictions. For each individual team, I will predict that they will not win the SC this year. These are 30 independent predictions.

That means I will be correct in 29 of my 30 predictions. Pretty good.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

@leftcoastfan...I would appreciate it if you didn't use my name in vain.

Posted by: nimrodrsp | October 4, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Anton BUSTafsson

Posted by: chrisclarksucks

sure looks like it. Too bad. We could use some size at center esp on the top 2 lines. I didn't know anything about him going into the draft in 08. But his profile (top end skill with an edge and size) sure seemed attractive at the time. The word on him was, it was only his injury issues that were the question mark. But it looks like he has neither the skills nor the grit he came advertised at.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Also, I do like how you gave yourself credit for saying that the Caps wouldn't win the SC last year. You do know that 29 of the 30 teams do not win the SC every year. --sgm--

oh i'm not trying to pull credit for it at all. Just pointing out that it was possible for me to view the Caps team last yr and not consider them a real contender. Seems a couple of you apparently have no ability to view a hockey team and figure out what its chances really are. And then project that inability on the rest of us.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

1) Alzner was better than ShaMo -last- year, and there's nothing but your crystal-meth ball to suggest he backslid while anchoring Hershey to another title.
2)Every team in sports handicaps their playoff chances based on their regular season performance. That's not a 'Caps management and homers' affliction.
3) Since last spring's debacle, the Caps have added a more mature 52; a 55 who gets the puck to the net; a bigger chip on 8's shoulder; a faster Nicky; and a Real American Hero. There also are signs of a more aggressive PK; a more physical forecheck; and a decreased willingness to get pushed around.
4) The NHL trade deadline is months away, which means GMGM can address -this year's holes- down the stretch. Believe it or not, these may not be the same holes as the ones you and RJ Umberger are in love with.
Some sour cranks are incapable of change or growth, and assume the players and coaches have the same problem. Some fans think their team has an effton of talent and it'll be "fun" (look it up) to see how it all plays out.
That's the disagreement between the two sides. Don't misstate it.

Posted by: redlineblue | October 4, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

so, does anyone think that either MP85, MJ90 or Hendricks will crack the roster?

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I think cstanton1 makes a good point sgm3, but as usual, went about explaining in the wrong manner. He seems to just like to post a little more agressively towards your posts. He has often said we over value doing well in the regular season and has said that we need to use the regular season to fine tune our team to be playoff ready come April. I cannot think of a time where he has said the regular season doesnt matter.

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thank you SAITO. In fact, I have never interpreted anyone's comments here to mean that the reg season doesn't matter at all.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

What other possible conclusion could I draw from the past year and a half I have had to deal with you! You ignore the parts of my post you can't argue with...I ADMITTED to having concerns about the post season, but challenged instead your constant need to find flaws and NEVER mention anything good...I would have NO problem with your posts if they were actually balanced. Every fan holds their team to a higher standard...EVERY team has issues...you act as though the Caps are no better than they were before the lockout.

I am asking you...why do you chose to focus solely on the bad, can you possibly wrap your head around the idea that your opinions are not scripture for God? Can you say SOMETHING positive about this team? And do you act like this b/c you are some pimply faced social reject that gets his jollies by raising the bloodpressure of other posters? I realize that last statement/question was mean but I really just don't understand why someone would chose to act like you. You sound like the 7th graders that are about to walk into my classroom. Why don't you get some manners and social skills...and yes I realize that is hypocritical considering I called you a pimply faced reject with no social skills.

Posted by: capscoach | October 4, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

@doughless

MaJo is gonna make the team. MP to the minors. To me the last roster spot is between Hendricks and Andrew Gordon, I think in the end they keep Gordon up. Although apparently everyone is passing through waivers these days so who knows.

Posted by: ThePat | October 4, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

redlineblue:

were you on hand yesterday at the Phone Booth to view the more "mature" 52 make some of his same old mistakes (e.g., not keeping the puck in the opposing zone on PP & lazy passes while skating the puck up the ice)? another blast from the 2010 past on display yesterday: not staying motivated. i know, it was a preseason game, but these are a couple of examples of things that need to be addressed. not hating!!

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

so, does anyone think that either MP85, MJ90 or Hendricks will crack the roster?

Posted by: doughless

While part of me would like to see Hendricks stick around, I think it'll be Mackan. MP is not so hot playing D, Mackan looks more well rounded.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 4, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

DROP THE PUCK!

Posted by: LloydChristmas | October 4, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

1) Alzner was better than ShaMo -last- year, and there's nothing but your crystal-meth ball to suggest he backslid while anchoring Hershey to another title.
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Oh I don't think Alzner was better at all. I can sit here and say that Boyd Gordon is the best defensive center in hockey. It doesn't make it so. He "anchored" Hershey to another title? Ok brainiac, if you say so!


2) Caps have added a more mature 52; a 55 who gets the puck to the net; a bigger chip on 8's shoulder; a faster Nicky; and a Real American Hero. There also are signs of a more aggressive PK; a more physical forecheck; and a decreased willingness to get pushed around.

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Wow, can you spin that yarn any more in their favor? Why not just say, the Caps got better, everyone else got worse. If you were a Penguins fan you'd point to their offseason acquisitions, their recent playoff records, and laugh at what the Caps have done. A "faster" Nicky? A real american hero? A chip on #8's shoulders? Thanks for the laugh. Oh yeah, a #55 who gets the puck to the net....lol, they should just hand over the Cup now. The NHL is trembling with fear.


4) The NHL trade deadline is months away, which means GMGM can address -this year's holes- down the stretch. Believe it or not, these may not be the same holes as the ones you and RJ Umberger are in love with.

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oh right, you mean GM will address the "offensive dman who can't play D worth a sh_t" hole that he sees but no one else does? Brilliant!!!! I can't wait to see what we give up for Corvo this time around. Umberger knows more about what the Caps lack than does GM obviously.


"Some sour cranks are incapable of change or growth, and assume the players and coaches have the same problem."

no, we're just incapable of swallowing the same garbage yr in and yr out. You should give it a try mr redlineblueballz or whatever the heck your handle is.


Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

redlineblue:

were you on hand yesterday at the Phone Booth to view the more "mature" 52 make some of his same old mistakes (e.g., not keeping the puck in the opposing zone on PP & lazy passes while skating the puck up the ice)?
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he was prolly too buzy jizzin himself watching #55 get the puck to the net. The Caps media staff should put that in their newsletter under OFFSEASON IMPROVEMENTS.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"I think cstanton1 makes a good point sgm3, but as usual, went about explaining in the wrong manner. He seems to just like to post a little more agressively towards your posts. He has often said we over value doing well in the regular season and has said that we need to use the regular season to fine tune our team to be playoff ready come April. I cannot think of a time where he has said the regular season doesnt matter."

First, my post never said cstanton1. It just said "some people". So it was never directed to him. And it wasn't written because of anything he said. It was written because of a few other people's posts in the last thread. For some reason, cstanton1 thinks all posts are directed towards him.

Second, my post questioned why people were overreacting to the preseason if they have been stating for so long how the regular season doesn't matter. It was about the overreaction by some people to a preseason game.

In addition, it was about how certain people will only pick negative plays from the preseason(or regular season) and say that those particular plays show that the Caps will fail in the playoffs. However. they never pick out positive plays and say that those are indicative of success in the playoffs. When anything positive happens in the regular season it is immediately considered meaningless because it is regular season hockey.

That's the problem I have. According to these people only the negative plays are meaningful during the regular season, but all positive plays are meaningless because it is only the regular season.

If you don't see a problem with that sort of reasoning, then fine. I find that sort of reasoning to be very improper. But to each their own.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you get some manners and social skills...and yes I realize that is hypocritical considering I called you a pimply faced reject with no social skills.

Posted by: capscoach |

are you a nag and a hag on the rag?

oops, my pimples just popped you made me so mad.

but to answer your question, i have no reason to say something positive just for the sake of saying it. I say plenty of positive things about some of our players and prospects. I just don't say much positive things about our coach, our system, and our GM. That pretty much sums up my discontent. But I certainly sing the praises of certain things Caps-related.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

You also complain about Semin's grit (or lack there of) :)

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"were you on hand yesterday at the Phone Booth to view the more "mature" 52 make some of his same old mistakes (e.g., not keeping the puck in the opposing zone on PP & lazy passes while skating the puck up the ice)? another blast from the 2010 past on display yesterday: not staying motivated. i know, it was a preseason game, but these are a couple of examples of things that need to be addressed. not hating!!"

It was a Sunday afternoon preseason game. Green was just having fun in a meaningless game. Trying to do a little showmanship for the fans. Good for him. He has 82 regular season games to prepare himself for the playoffs. Expending any energy in the last preseason game would have been a waste.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that for every one post of actually hockey talk there's two of people peeing on each other's legs? It's getting harder and harder to actually find anything worth while in the comments section here. Just an opinion.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 4, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

SteveR - Yeah, Malkin is terrible at face-offs (around 40%). A guy with his size, strength, and hand-eye coordination should be able to do a lot better if he worked at it a bit. Of course, 40% would be a big improvement compared to where MJ is now, and Malkin might have a "slight" advantage at this point in his overall level of play. So I don't think the two players are comparable.

Posted by: zmega | October 4, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

zmega,

Wasn't looking to compare the two, just pointing out that a superstar in the league is near the bottom in draws. The two C Staal's really suck at face offs as well. Mackan can learn, Nicky did.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 4, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Second, my post questioned why people were overreacting to the preseason if they have been stating for so long how the regular season doesn't matter. It was about the overreaction by some people to a preseason game.
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right, there you go again. No one's saying the reg season doesn't matter. They're saying this team should'nt overvalue themselves based on their success in the reg season. Is that in plain enough english ?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

It was a Sunday afternoon preseason game. Green was just having fun in a meaningless game. Trying to do a little showmanship for the fans. Good for him. He has 82 regular season games to prepare himself for the playoffs. Expending any energy in the last preseason game would have been a waste.

Posted by: sgm3


Are you frigging kidding me? So it would have been perfectly fine if he had blown an ACL/MCL puttting him out for the season because he was trying "to do a little showmanship for the fans"?? It also teaches bad habits that carry over to the regular season.....there are a lot of young kids out there trying to make the NHL.....what kind of impression does a showboat Norris trophy candidate #1 Dman on the team have on them.

Showboating is inexcusable no matter what time of the year it is.

Posted by: PhilR | October 4, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

sgm3:

Rrright!

zmega: MJ90 definitely has to improve in the circles.

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

You also complain about Semin's grit (or lack there of) :)

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce

yep, semin's grit is an oxymoron. At times he's shown some. So I guess we're in the stage of his career currently where he's decided he wants to be a wallflower. Should be fun to watch.

Someone mentioned they watched him in a Bruins game last season where he stuck up for a teammate twice. I don't remember that. But I wonder if it was before or after the bongo incident. Because I can remember very distinctly that leading upto that incident I had been fairly satisfied with his commitment to finishing a few checks and getting into the tough areas. Immediately after that incident, I noticed a dramatic dropoff in Semin's grit level. Starting in the very next game.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the ovechkin video...

Do any of you know what kind of upper body strength AND stamina it takes to get that heavy rope to move as far down the rope, as high as it did and for the duration of time that it was done?

I mean, good lord that was f-ing impressive!

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Sorry about that blow up people! Once a week it seems to happen...and no...not once a month cstanton

back to hockey...is anyone worried about the top line? They only got one game together in pre-season...and Ovie did look a bit rusty. I mean I don't think it would take more than a game or two for them to get back in stride, but I wish they had more pre-season games together...darn Backie blocking shots!

Posted by: capscoach | October 4, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

"Are you frigging kidding me? So it would have been perfectly fine if he had blown an ACL/MCL puttting him out for the season because he was trying "to do a little showmanship for the fans"?? It also teaches bad habits that carry over to the regular season.....there are a lot of young kids out there trying to make the NHL.....what kind of impression does a showboat Norris trophy candidate #1 Dman on the team have on them."

No, blowing out his knee would've been bad. If what he did substantially increased his chances of getting a knee then that would be a bad decision.

But it was a behind the back pass.

How many games has Green played in in his life? Do you really think a few plays during a one preseason game is going to "carry over". And if somehow it did, I think he would be able to correct it during the 82 game regular season. If he didn't then he was never going to correct it in the first place, regardless of what he did in the last preseason.

Again, it was inconsequential. The only goal is to avoid injury. I will again point to a recent Matthew Barnaby statement about the preseason. He said veterans who are assured of a spot do not care and do not try in the preseason, that it is meaningless. This is coming from an NHL player(a tough one too) and now NHL analyst.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if the folks on the internet could see it or not but Green had blocked a shot on the PK about 2 shifts before he was out there on the PP. He did screw up on the PP, but his blocked shot prior to that kept the puck out of the net. He did hobble off the ice after he blocked the shot. The puck that got past Green on the point was on edge and bouncing. About 15 seconds before that he caught a clearing attempt chest high, dropped the puck with a PKer in front of him, stick-handled the puck through his legs and passed it back down the boards to keep the puck in the zone. That, of course, goes unnoticed. If the game is tied, or the Caps are winning Green probably doesn't attempt to keep a bouncing puck on edge in the zone. Down 1-0 in the 3rd, you play more aggressive.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 4, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

FYI,the Flames are $2m over the cap.

Flash for Regehr fixes their cap problems, as well as their hole down the middle.

Georgie needs to make it happen. Add a prospect to sweeten the pot.

Posted by: underpants2 | October 4, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I also think this will be an important season for Ovie overall...and an individual. Teams have learned how to cover him better. This is his opportunity to show the world that he can adjust his play when things are not going his way.

Posted by: capscoach | October 4, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Anton BUSTafsson

Posted by: chrisclarksucks |


It's far too early to say he's a bust (though I get it..you're just trying to be edgy again), but it was apparent from the moment he was drafted that it would be a very, very long, uphill battle. There's really no reason why Anton should have went in the 1st that year, but he did.

What really irks me about the '08 draft (besides missing Eberle), is that we traded our 2nd rounder, who picked Patrice Cormier, to move UP just to get Anton...who wasn't even on the radar in terms of Euro prospects. Was he on other team's radars? I don't know, maybe that's the reason GMGM traded up...

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

you gotta see the vid by ex Skins player Adam Archuleta. His fitness regimen and results were insane considering he didn't really have a great genetic foundation to build off of.

He's got this one move he does where he's in a plank position (like when you're doing a pushup), and in the blink of eye like a hummingbird's wings he reverses his position 180deg without visibly using any muscles. I have never seen anything like it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

sgm3:

this relates to Mr. Green: your point would be welltaken if not for the fact that Mr. Green makes the same bonehead plays during the regular season on a fairly regular basis. that said, i would like to see 52 have a good year.

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

ok, just found ok... that rope in the Ovie commercial is between 20 and 42 pounds!!!

I think he's doing the heavy rope with at least a 40 footer... that's impressive!

1.5" x 30' - 15 lbs
1.5" x 40' - 20 lbs
1.5" x 50' - 24 lbs
2" x 30' - 28 lbs
2" x 40' - 34 lbs
2" x 50' - 42 lbs

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton:

got a vid/link to it? love this kinda stuff...

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

@wtf_e_fehr- how about wtf_j_finley?

Why is it that for every one post of actually hockey talk there's two of people peeing on each other's legs? Posted by: Steve_R lol. Shut up and pick a side!

Seriously though, anyone heard when the final roster cuts are due?

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | October 4, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

What really irks me about the '08 draft (besides missing Eberle), is that we traded our 2nd rounder, who picked Patrice Cormier, to move UP just to get Anton...who wasn't even on the radar in terms of Euro prospects. Was he on other team's radars? I don't know, maybe that's the reason GMGM traded up...

Posted by: richmondphil2

i wouldve skipped both Cormier (who I do like as a prospect) and gone for Zack Smith or Travis Hamonic. Granted, Smith is probably best suited as a 3rd line center and we were looking for top 6 talent. But I'll take a 3rd line center who should be in this league for 10 yrs with Smith's size, toughness, and ability over a longterm project like AGus.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Enjoyed the game Friday night. My impression of A. Gordon on that night was that he has a terrific shot and is quick, but has not developed a strong enough all-around game for the NHL yet. As for MP v. MJ, personally I think it goes to MP to start the season, with MJ to get some seasoning in Hershey. For whomever observed that MP gets knocked off the puck due to his size, my observation is that he is able to shiftily avoid contact when he has possession and can disrupt opponents and steal possession in either zone extraordinarily well despite his stature. His enthusiasm for the puck carries him a long way.

I was sorry to see Hendricks get knocked out early, but DJ King was fun to watch. He has some good skills and instincts, but he's a gawdawful skater.

Posted by: Justafan | October 4, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Ovi is a freak of nature. Legs should not ever look that bulbous and massive...

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I was sorry to see Hendricks get knocked out early, but DJ King was fun to watch. He has some good skills and instincts, but he's a gawdawful skater.

Posted by: Justafan


he's not a great skater no, but he's good enough for a 4th line role. Although if you listened to way some fans prattled on about him after we acquired him, they made it sound like McPhee found a real quality prospect in King which justified having to give up a decent prospect in SDR. And of course it also justified why we didn't carry an enforcer last yr and why the acquisition this yr was not a kneejerk reaction to other teams muscling up. Because apparently guys like King are so hard to come by that McPhee had to wait for the perfect opportunity to snatch him up.

:)

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

speaking of comments on DJ King and SDR; did anyone see the Tweet this weekend related to his thoughts on dealing SDR and picking up King?? one of the most ridiculous i have ever heard coming from GMGM. Lemme see if i can find it.

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

For people saying MP makes it over MaJo, I simply don't understand. Has everyone bought into the logic that no defense needs to be played down the middle of the ice?? MP and Flash as 2 and 3 mean that most of the time on the ice you have a Center that can't and one that won't play defense.

That is the main reason MaJo makes the team. That and he is already a top 3 skater on this team. He has the same vision as MP. Everyone seems like they are on his bandwagon just bc he spent time in Hershey or something. I don't have any issue with MP and if Flash weren't here I'd be all for going with the two young guys and see how it works. But you can't go with two centers that are flat out defensive liabilities. The End.

Posted by: ThePat | October 4, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

@RichmondPhil: I am also not a fan of the Gustafsson pick, either in foresight or in hindsight. Not a fan of the pick whether we originally held that pick or traded for it. It smelled bad from the start.

But, in fairness to GMGM, he was on the radar. He was the 5th ranked Euro skater. (No, I didn't remember that off the top of my head, had to google it.) I don't consider myself a GMGM apologist. Gustafsson was definitely picked too early, but we can't really judge exactly where he would have been drafted if GMGM hadn't stepped in. One pick later? 10 picks later? He was on the radar and he has NHL genes, so he wouldn't have dropped dramatically far.

Posted by: struggler | October 4, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

I think smg3 was right, although it is possible we both missed it. I was fairly certain that the breakaway that Green gave up was after a failed attempt to do a fancy behind the back pass, then tried to recover by knocking it in deep but it got blocked out of the zone and Green was then planted like a parking cone when the Pred guy flew past him.

I do remember the blocked shot, gimping off, locker room, then back out thing. But that was not what lead to the cough up. He just misplayed it, pure and simple.

Quite a few players were trying fancy passes all game and failing (Green, Semin, Laich, etc...it was getting old fast).

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1: The bongo incident happened in early 2009, right after the holidays I believe. "Bruins game last season..." was after the incident. For someone who such an expert on hundreds of players in many different leagues that is a elementary oversight. That is of course, if you watched the Capitals intently in early 2009.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 4, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

And I know DJ King can fight, but why don't we just keep Hendricks up and send King to Hershey. Recall King if we need to. Hendricks is a good fighter and fights for the right reasons. He doesn't really do any of the staged stuff. That and his game is more well rounded and he plays all 3 F positions.

Posted by: ThePat | October 4, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

@All: Apologizing in advance for a series of posts that mught seem to be off-topic. Unfortunately, My anniversary fell on Friday night and I spent virtually all weekend working on my house...anyhoo:


B) Use MODERN-looking 3rd jerseys. Casual non-fans are not interested in becoming fans of the 1970s NHL. They want to see something that catches their eyes and draw them in.

Posted by: struggler | October 3, 2010 12:17 PM


@struggler: I agree with you there on the sweaters; throwbacks is OK, but maybe not for the Winter Classic. Besides all of the teams that most refgard as "serious" have an actual crest that looks more like a logo or symbol than just a word in a strange font...e.g.

Bruins
Sens
Habs
Wings
Hawks
Flames
Canucks
Sharks
Satan's Team (Penguins)
Satan's Other Team (Phlyers)

...and the list goes on.

To that end, a third sweater would be nice, though--I'm thinking a blue or red sweater with an enormous weagel on the fromt and the Capitals wordmark on the shoulders...sort of like this:

http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/07/30/if-the-caps-were-to-pursue-a-third-sweater.html


Cheer up...it could be worse. They could be wearing those hideous "prison jams" that the Habs brought out a year or two ago.

Posted by: Rhino40 | October 4, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I think the SDR for King trade doesn't need to be justified. SDR is still a year away, moreso like 2, and we needed someone ready now. Obviously, I would have preferred a different prospect to go other than SDR (Krygushev), but the trade itself doesn't really bother me, as much as the second part you talk about. Out of the many different enforcers throughout the league, King would be in the top-tier for me to want to have on the team. He can enforce, while providing some other tangible traits as well. Which is my big thing about enforcers; if they can't/aren't willing to contribute anything outside fighting, then they shouldn't be playing professional hockey. (Which reminds me of our argument over Colton Orr we had like 3-4 years ago.)

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton:

got a vid/link to it? love this kinda stuff...

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 1:23 PM

i'm sure its out there somewhere. I think he did it before a MNF game too. Basically he's in the plank position and somehow launches himself into the air and perfectly reverses his head/toe position without bending or twisting his body visibly. His workout video may have it too - "Freak of Training". Its plyometrics to an extent. No vanity exercises. Everyweight that he moves is basically an impact exercise. So when he's doing a bench, he throws the weight into the air and catches it. All about explosion I guess. His results are amazing though given his body weight. I think he's about 200 lbs and does a 510lb bench. Multiple single sets within 90 mins. i.e. he benched 30 single reps within 90 minutes.

Too bad he can't cover anyone :) But seriously, he wouldnt even be playing in the NFL if he didn't work out the way he did. His natural ability is very limited.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

here is the retweet from steven hindle:

@russianmachine: GMGM on Della Rovre trade: "I will never give up a player I think will be an elite player. SDR is a few years away, DJ King is ready now."

Question: DJ Kind and elite player?

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Green's behind the back pass was when he was on the left point, the puck that got past him that ended up being a breakaway goal was on the right point. He was right next to the Preds bench.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 4, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

on the logo discussion: maybe it is just me, but the weagle is kinda weak. i liked the eagle on the 90's blue sweater more than the weagle.

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

But, in fairness to GMGM, he was on the radar. He was the 5th ranked Euro skater. (No, I didn't remember that off the top of my head, had to google it.) I don't consider myself a GMGM apologist. Gustafsson was definitely picked too early, but we can't really judge exactly where he would have been drafted if GMGM hadn't stepped in. One pick later? 10 picks later? He was on the radar and he has NHL genes, so he wouldn't have dropped dramatically far.

Posted by: struggler |

Yeah, I saw that too when I googled up the 08 draft. For some reason, I don't remember him being talked about. In fact, I specifically remember guys like Petrov, Markstrom, etc being talked about among prospect circles, but Anton? His name hardly ever came up. An aside here, I frequently discuss Euro prospects online and with international friends, so I sort of consider it to be my "niche" when it comes to prospects.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I get the steckel hate, but when healthy B-Gordon is pretty steady..and cheap. He was also one of our better players in the playoffs (sad I know). I have no problem keeping him...unless the back goes out for an extended trip again.

Posted by: capscoach | October 4, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

@CAP-lanta

Hmm, so now CAP-pan? CAP-okyo? CAP-onshu? CAP-saka? CAP-yoto?

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce

Wouldn't Japitals be the obvious choice here?

Posted by: j3rockstar | October 4, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

Personally, I'd much prefer it if Hendricks and King can dress regularly. It's not like our bottom six is anything special anyway.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

Personally, I'd much prefer it if Hendricks and King can dress regularly. It's not like our bottom six is anything special anyway.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Which is my big thing about enforcers; if they can't/aren't willing to contribute anything outside fighting, then they shouldn't be playing professional hockey. (Which reminds me of our argument over Colton Orr we had like 3-4 years ago.)

Posted by: richmondphil2

you don't think Orr is a heavy hitting forechecker? He is very much like how Todd Fedoruk was back before he got hurt. 225/230lb of beast bearing down you. Orr probably had 4 or 5 big open ice hits last season which is very hard to do at the speed of the nhl unless you can catch up to the play. I think its very doubtful that King is a better 4th line player than is Colton Orr.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Seeing Ovie the other night charging towards the Blue Jackets reminded me of this great line. Not sure how it would sound with Ovie doing it but it would sure be funny to see the yellow scarf and air cav ."Do you smell that? It's napalm, son. Nothing else on the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Y'know, once we had a hail bomb....12 hours....and when it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of them, not one stinking dink body. The smell, y'know that gasoline smell, that whole hell. Smells like........ Victory. Some day this war's gonna end."

Posted by: bqts | October 4, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

don't think its a matter of IF BGordo's back goes out again, its a matter of WHEN.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

All,

Im not saying that the regular season is going to be a bust. But I ask every single one of you to look at the system that we play and how it works against a team like the Preds, BB's system does not work since he wont make adjustments. It wont matter what kind of players we bring in.

Posted by: darrylrbaker | October 4, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

The discussion should really be about; his role on the Rangers vs. his role with Burke and the Leafs. And I will concede, Orr's role grew and changed with Burke and Wilson. I don't know if the same thing can be said about Boogard, but we will see. (I only bring Boogard up because we talked about him in the same light, and if his role can be shifted to justify his hefty contract.)

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

@russianmachine: GMGM on Della Rovre trade: "I will never give up a player I think will be an elite player. SDR is a few years away, DJ King is ready now."

Question: DJ Kind and elite player?

Posted by: doughless | October 4, 2010 1:43 PM

"I will never give up a player I think will be an elite player."

- since he traded sdr - i don't believe gmgm thinks sdr is elite. therefore getting king would mean dj king is not elite either - but he is nhl ready.

just my take on gmgm's statement

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 4, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

And to add. If some here want to make excuses b/c they played on Fri, Did a convention on Sat that ended at 7pm and couldnt get focused for an afternoon game go right ahead, Im sure all of you that want to believe that are the same ones that believe the fog had something to do with thier lack of playing in game 5.

This organization at times makes excuses for this team like they are 5 yr olds. I'm not buying into what they say all the time.

Posted by: darrylrbaker | October 4, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'd much prefer it if Hendricks and King can dress regularly. It's not like our bottom six is anything special anyway.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 1:47 PM

I'd have to agree with this, and am actually surprised someone hasn't brought this up earlier.

Posted by: Fro_2 | October 4, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

FYI,the Flames are $2m over the cap.

Flash for Regehr fixes their cap problems, as well as their hole down the middle.

Georgie needs to make it happen. Add a prospect to sweeten the pot.

Posted by: underpants2 | October 4, 2010 1:13 PM


@underpants: While you and I haven't always seen eye-to-eye, I have to agree with you there: I like this trade.

Not so much because of any distate for Fleischmann, but because I have always thought Regehr would be a great addition for the Caps.

At the very least, he'd have to be miles better than the (abysmally failed) Corvo Experiment.

Posted by: Rhino40 | October 4, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

What puzzles me about Little Gus is his apparent determination to play in North America but (based on the 3-4 times I've seen him play, anyway) his lack of energy on the ice. From what I saw, he has skill and is not afraid to hit. He just doesn't bring it very often. Kinda the anti-Bruess.

Posted by: zmega | October 4, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

He had a few behind the backers and all but 1 got stuffed back at him. And he def had one while on the right point near the Preds bench. He tried to behind the back it to the left and it got stuffed back to him, by then Ward had closed in tighter and Green tried to bounce it off the boards past him and into the corner, cept Ward blocked it and out of the zone...leading to his breakaway.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Orr never had a chance with the Rangers after they got Tortorella. His ice time immediately decreased. But the yr before when he and Hollweg played on the 4th line that was a very effective forechecking line for NY.

Re: Torts, this is why Brashear was also a bad fit. One, Torts doesn't really like the traditional enforcer type. (evidenced by the way he used Andre Roy in Tampa). And two, Brashear svcked the last 2 seasons and was clearly on the downswing.

FTR, Ron Wilson doesn't utilize enforcers well either but Burke has the clear final say. If Burke wasn't the GM in Toronto, no way does Colton Orr get any time under Wilson.

I'm not down on Boogaard because I think he's a very smart player who doesn't go crazy on the ice. He has a lot of restraint and ends up taking a lot of abuse without retaliation. He's also a heavy hitter. Obviously for a guy his size skating is an issue but he's effective without having to drop the gloves very often (mostly because no one wants to dance with him). If he was strictly a fighter I'd never take him on my team. But he definitely had a positive effect in some Wild games by drawing penalties and laying some really big hits on the opposition. He had two games v Edmonton where even Edm acknowledged how well he played his role. And he never had to drop the gloves to do it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

From what I saw, he has skill and is not afraid to hit. He just doesn't bring it very often. Kinda the anti-Bruess.

Posted by: zmega |

remember McPhee's comments after we draftd him? He said, the Caps want AGus to focus less on his hitting and more on his scoring. I don't know if he said it tongue-in-cheek to imply that AGus played with an edge, but I wasn't about to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one considering his affection for skilled/nongritty prospects.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Wow, from my vantage point, from behind the play, it looked like Green had the puck passed to him and it on edge and bouncing by the time it got to him. Totally agree that he attempted a few failed behind the back passes, just don't recall one of those resulting in the breakaway goal. No big deal, you could be right.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 4, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Cannot wait til Friday...Though the 8-hour drive to Atlanta isn't a fun one.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Rich

Here's a clip of Boogaard against the Oilers from 2 or 3 yrs ago. The hit he puts on was one of many hits he had put on the Oilers in the prev game and he got into the heads of the Oilers. He would lay huge hits on them and then smile at their bench. All it took was one more hit before the Oilers lost their heads.

Notice, he lays a big hit (which requires good anticipation and speed), and then allows himself to get hit in the face without retaliating. Leads to some PP time.

That's part of what a good enforcer needs to be able to do. Do I like the contract the Rags gave him? At first glance, no. It seems too much for that role. And I like some of the guys they've had in the AHL who can play a similar role at a much cheaper rate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfFChWqWzrs

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Hurrincanes lost to SKA btw. Haha 3-0. Ouch.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1:
his stuff sounds like plyometrics combined with Cross fit of some sort, giving the intensity in short bursts. Thank you sir, I will look into it... :-)

@rhino and underpants:
I've been saying a trade with Flash (and whatever) to Calgary for Regehr for a bit now... highly doubt that that would get him... because if it could have, one would think he'd be here already given that a forward was being shopped for the Belanger incident.

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Regehr has a NMC as well.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I know all summer I harped about GMGM getting a veteran Center and D-man. However it just hit me with how vulnerable the team is at Center. If Backstrom (who has been dependable as heck) were to go down with injury, the Caps would be hurting bad for a solid Center. This is actually a bigger issue than Defense.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | October 4, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

another hit by Boogaard which draws a penalty. This time v Seabrook/Hawks. Point being, he skates well enough given his size to throw these types of hits. And he's not a liability in terms of having a temperament which is highly volatile (ala Avery or Ott). And in fact he provides a big umbrella of protection and draws some penalties once in a while. I think he gets tagged as a big lumbering oaf unfairly. There are other huge hockey players out there who never made it who fit that bill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRJJjv37XPU&feature=related

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Was there practice today? Why no updates? Has Flash been traded yet or has he been upgraded to 1st line center over Nicky? Did MP grow three inches and put on 40 lbs over night? Did Steckel voluntarily give back 500k of his contract so the team would be paying him what he is worth as 4C? Come on, inquiry minds want to know!

Posted by: PhilR | October 4, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

All what you say about Boogard is true, and he does contribute more than just fighting. But you sum it up here; "Do I like the contract the Rags gave him? At first glance, no. It seems too much for that role. And I like some of the guys they've had in the AHL who can play a similar role at a much cheaper rate." My issue with Boogard was really about whether he could live up to his price, and contribute under Torts something other than fighting.

Boogard was also brought in to backup his good friend Gaborik, which is a combo I am looking forward to see out here in the East. I like Gaborik, but obviously I haven't watched too many Wild games in the past, but it'll be fun to see how Boogard in the East changes things in the conference and for Gaborik. Maybe he'll gain some confidence, Gaborik is undeniably one of the most offensively-gifted players and obviously one of the downright fastests, I think he can pop 60 goals given the right circumstances.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1:
his stuff sounds like plyometrics combined with Cross fit of some sort, giving the intensity in short bursts. Thank you sir, I will look into it... :-)

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yep, pretty much all functional strength training. Archuleta's trainer developed his concepts from Eastern European training in the 70s.

The thing is, there is a very structured tiered approach to this workout. You have to get your body conditioned very slowly otherwise you'll end up wrecking ligaments and tendons with all the jump squats, etc. The trainer has his guys jumping from 4ft boxes onto the floor right into a squat, sometimes with dumbells. But its supposed to eventually protect you from injuries by conditioning your body to absorb big impacts. The big injuries that Archuleta has had involve his lower back. Compression injury. Which given the workout is pretty easy to see why. He probably needs an inversion table to balance out the impact to his spine.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

giroux got cut by the oilers

Posted by: _stevo | October 4, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Also, cstanton, I posted this when it happened, but I don't know if you saw it, but Shane O'Brien ( I said SOB) was waived and cleared. We discussed him earlier this year.

All I'm saying is that if SOB was waived a month, 2 months ago, etc and cleared waivers, I'd be made at GMGM for not picking him up. I understand not picking someone up so close to the start of the season and all though.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

@PhilR

Pretty sure the article above or the one previous said that the boys had off today and then on until Friday. So I wouldnt expect a lot of Caps related updates today.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The Flyers released Bill Guerin today from his professional tryout. Maybe the Caps should think about signing him as he is good for about 20 goals and some grit.

Posted by: MReilly9 | October 4, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

know all summer I harped about GMGM getting a veteran Center and D-man. However it just hit me with how vulnerable the team is at Center. If Backstrom (who has been dependable as heck) were to go down with injury, the Caps would be hurting bad for a solid Center. This is actually a bigger issue than Defense.

Posted by: kcbrichmond
I agree. Like many, I have stated before that we need to get a gritty SAH D-man but I think our 2C/3C is a more pressing need than our D at this point. We didn't lose to the Habs because we couldn't stop them from scoring, we lost because they(the team, not Halak)stopped us from scoring.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | October 4, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but we don't need another winger and we have Knuble.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | October 4, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

The Flyers released Bill Guerin today from his professional tryout. Maybe the Caps should think about signing him as he is good for about 20 goals and some grit.

Posted by: MReilly9
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at the expensive of which youngster?

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

but it'll be fun to see how Boogard in the East changes things in the conference and for Gaborik.
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there was clearly an "arms race" in the Eastern Conf this past offseason. Flyers got Shelley, Walker, O'Donnell. Rangers add Boogaard to their crop that already included Prust. They also have 2 very hardnosed rookies on D (McDonagh and Valatenko) who could see some ice time. The additions allowed them to put Byers on waivers.

Of course Atlanta got much bigger very quickly. The Senators have been adding some quality gritty forwards (Winchester, Foligno, ZSmith, O'Brien, Bass) to their lineup lately. Buffalo's been drafting quality power forwards (Kassian, Foligno) and should have a very different look in the next 2 yrs. The Leafs under Burke added yet another tough kid - Mike Brown.

The East is definitely changing. And why I didn't for a second think that McPhee's acquisition of DJK was an isolated coincidence. He had no choice but to respond in some manner. My point has always been, if the Caps did a better job of drafting these types in the mid to later rounds, we wouldn't be caught with our pants down when we needed to add a guy to our lineup quickly. We could've had one last yr if we'd wanted.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

giroux got cut by the oilers

Posted by: _stevo
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you know your career is in jeopardy when a last place team that needs bodies waives you for assignment to the AHL! OUCH!

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Also, cstanton, I posted this when it happened, but I don't know if you saw it, but Shane O'Brien ( I said SOB) was waived and cleared. We discussed him earlier this year.
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really? wow. I didn't see that. He's not a top 4 guy, well he's not a top 4 guy on most nights but he has been a top 4 guy for a very good team on some nights. But he is a good 3rd pairing dman and he has some offensive abilities. I knew Hordichuk would be placed on waivers but didn't anticipate O'Brien. I wonder what happened there. Was it strictly cap-related? Was it because of Andrew Alberts outplaying him?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton01 - does anyone have luck drafting those enforcer types?

@everyone - predictions on who makes the cut? My prediction is that Hendricks, Perrault, and Johannson are IN. A. Gordon, Beagle are out (for now).

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 4, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

no surprise on Giroux. The Oilers revamped their roster. Giroux wouldve had to beat out Dustin Penner or Taylor Hall on the top 2 lines. That's not happening. And Ryan Jones or Steve MacIntyre on the 4th line. Not happening either. Came down to the 3rd line LW spot. Giroux isn't a checking defensive player so that was a bad fit anyway but they'll end up giving the spot to their top draft pick from last yr - a Sweeeede

Really, Giroux had no chance. But he'll be a depth call up maybe.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

@RedLitYogi

Only 2 spots available unless someone else is waived/traded...so you named 3, who is out?

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton01 - does anyone have luck drafting those enforcer types?

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of course!
you can get enforcer types via draft or FA and develop them. Every nhl tough guy is either a draftee or a FA signee. And every yr a lot of teams go out and get some more. Some teams have 4 or 5 players waiting to make the jump. They have an obvious commitment to that type of role.

Now if you're referring to enforcers who have been signed/drafted/developed by the same team who currently employs them in the nhl, the # is lower because teams move these guys around as they see fit. For ex, the Sharks were able to let Shelley go and trade Staubitz because they had Frazer McLaren (7th rounder) coming thru their system. The Oilers have Stortini (3rd rounder). The Sabres used Andrew Peters for 5 nhl seasons. He was a 2nd rounder. Too high for that type of player but at least he turned into an enforcer if he couldn't crack a higher line. Matt Kassian (2nd rounder) is the defacto replacement for Derek Boogaard in MN. Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond is the current enforcer for the Devils (as a 7th round pick). Before that it was Cam Jansen (4th rounder).

and on and on.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

We didn't lose to the Habs because we couldn't stop them from scoring, we lost because they(the team, not Halak)stopped us from scoring.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash

and the reasons we would've lost to another team had we faced them in the 1st round or the 2nd round would've been more of a defensive reason imo. From the GM to the coach to certain fans, they want to focus on the fact we didn't score a lot of goals in the Habs series. So fine, we'll try and fix that this yr somehow. And score even more goals. And then we'll run into a team that exposes us for being soft defensively and it'll leave us scratching our heads the next offseason and wonder what the heck happened. The worth of a good GM is proven BEFORE you end up losing a series, not after. McPhee's got to be able to look at his defensive corps and see some significant issues before actually paying a playoff price.

The Caps D is every bit a problem as is our depth at center. Unfortunately for us, the Habs didn't put enough pressure to expose it as a real issue in the playoffs.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

@everyone - predictions on who makes the cut? My prediction is that Hendricks, Perrault, and Johannson are IN. A. Gordon, Beagle are out (for now).

Posted by: RedLitYogi
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IN: MP85 (has put in his time) and AGordon (would be lost to waivers)
OUT: MoJo, Hendricks (was passed on as a UFA), Beagle (been passed on before)

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Looking at this interview with Wade Belak and his take on how certain coaches are better in developing 4th line tough guys than other coaches, where do you think Bruce stacks up?

Q: Leaving the Leafs was probably one the hardest adjustments you had to make in your career. When you look at it now and where you ended up, was it, overall, beneficial to you as a player?

A: It was one of the hardest adjustments career-wise. It was something I didn’t want to do. My contract was up at end of the year. The coach wasn’t playing me. Maybe I could have signed for less money. Instead, I asked to trade. I wanted to go somewhere where I could play. It worked out. I was traded to Florida. I played the last 17 games of the season. I was rewarded with a 2- year deal with more money. That’s the way the business is. From day 1, Florida wasn’t a good fit for me. My playing time was slowly dwindling. This goes back to those types of coaches who only use role players specifically. You’re pegged as a certain kind of player, and you’re not getting any more ice time than any other 4th line guy. I was pegged as a tough guy, and I was limited. I wasn’t being used at the right times on the game. We would be getting kicked around the ice and we needed a momentum change. I would never get thrown out there against the teams opposite tough guy to try to get things going. They were unhappy because I wasn’t doing my job and I wasn’t happy because I was out there to do my job. I was traded to Nashville where I was used and played. When I dressed, I played.

Q: Name a few Coaches who were major influences to regards to personal and professional aspects of your career?

A: Pat Quinn was the best coach I had during my career. He’s a great man, and he’s a very knowledgeable and a fair coach. Many coaches had a strict system in place where role players were specifically used. Pat just let you play and gave everyone a chance. He rewarded players with ice time. Regardless of you were 3rd or 4th line, you were playing a lot if you were playing well. If you were a first line guy who played on the power play in the minors, you were playing on the power play when you were called up to play in Toronto. He gave guys chances to play. Many coaches are scared to play guys who are labeled, like a 4th line grinder. Most of those guys are played with limited ice time. Pat wasn’t like that. A perfect example is Tie Domi. Tie went from playing on the 4th line to virtually all lines. It all depended upon how well he was playing. Tie was used a lot on the first line in the playoffs against Ottawa. Pat did the same thing with me one year. I played on the first line against Philadelphia. Pat was great when it came to that aspect. He was a great person. When you’re a good person, you become a good coach. Missing the playoffs by 1 point got Pat fired. That was very unfortunate. I’m glad to see him get hired in Edmonton.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure I missed this somewhere, but a quick Google search yielded nothing......what happened to Quintin Laing?

Posted by: mjw4m | October 4, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton- no doubt our lack of a overall tougher D really didn't get a chance to get exposed against a team like Montreal but I think many fans tend to overlook the deficiency at C when assessing the loss to the Habs.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | October 4, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm looking forward to when the Caps announce their roster.

While I would prefer AGordon to make the roster so he would not be available on waivers, part of me wants him to be cut just to see the overreaction by some people on this board. Especially since they will likely react in same manner as they would if the Caps traded away Backstrom, Ovie and Carlson for a bag of pucks.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

fair comment Funky.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

@mjw4m

He was either a RFA or UFA and the Caps opted to not re-sign him. Dont think he got picked up anywhere, but could be wrong. All I know is, he isnt with the Caps orgaization anymore.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | October 4, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure I missed this somewhere, but a quick Google search yielded nothing......what happened to Quintin Laing?

Posted by: mjw4m
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Q was never resigned and is still a UFA!

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton- no doubt our lack of a overall tougher D really didn't get a chance to get exposed against a team like Montreal but I think many fans tend to overlook the deficiency at C when assessing the loss to the Habs.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash
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I'm actually going to agree with funky on this and the same will be said for this year until one or both of our 2nd and 3rd line centers prove themselves over the long-haul of the season AND the playoffs...

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Waiver players are usually respected by other teams. The only times a player usually gets picked up on waivers is

A) if the team putting him on waivers doesn't mind losing him
B) if a team is ticked off at another team for a past transgression
C) if the player is decent enough to take a chance on, therefore risking ticking off the other team (i.e. chris thorburn getting picked up by the Pens really ticked off the Sabres at the time and they vowed to get em back which prevented the Penguins from trying to sneak thru a couple of their players)

lotta politics involved in waivers. I can't see McPhee for ex ever ticking off another GM by plucking a player he knows is 'off-limits'. I wouldn't risk passing AGordo thru waivers. Not until I had a chance to see him in about 10 or so NHL games first. If he doesn't show something in that timeframe then its a good bet he's not cut out for the nhl. At least not as a 3rd liner. I still think based on watching him in Hershey, he's a good enough prospect to hold onto.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

BMo just found a home in Calgary.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | October 4, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

BMo just found a home in Calgary.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208

i guess they liked him at center more than Flash..

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Now Calgary is almost $3m over the cap, but they got a center.

Good news for them, Flash can play wing!
Flash and a 3rd for Regehr.

Posted by: underpants2 | October 4, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

don't tell tominsocal1... buuuuttttt... mr 5'11" 213lb Clutterbuck is the man... hattie!

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=336349

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B) if a team is ticked off at another team for a past transgression

Posted by: cstanton1
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what about the Penguins?

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@pokerfaceI208:

1 year, 725k
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=336360

doesn't that put them further over the cap?

*cough* Flash + picks/prospects for Regehr *cough* :-D

Posted by: FrankM73 | October 4, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Flash will be an all-star center this year.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 4, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Flash will be an all-star center this year.

Posted by: sgm3

Now your gonna get it!

Posted by: underpants2 | October 4, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Flash will be an all-star center this year.

Posted by: sgm3 |


yeah, in the ice capades maybe.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

@bqts: like the Apocalypse Now reference--that line is among my favorites from the whole film, along with:

"Never get out of the boat"

Absolutely G**-D***** right...

...umless you were going all the way. Kurtz got off the boat: he split from the whole f****** program. He could have gone for General, but he went for himself instead"

or this one:


"Charging someone with murder in this godforsaken h3!!hole was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500"

Posted by: Rhino40 | October 4, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree with cstanton and sgm3. Is that possible? I must be screwed up in the head. Don't count flash out for the all star game(see ridiculous canadiens picks that made it 2 seasons ago). All we need is a good computer script for the voting.

Posted by: Dizruption | October 4, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

gotta love a young "larry fishburne" on that PT boat.

Dennis Hopper once had a great story he related about filming that movie and a run-in he had with Brando.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

All we need is a good computer script for the voting.

Posted by: Dizruption |


right on. Maybe we can generate a computerized 'heart' also that we can instil in Flash?

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 4, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"I'm anxious to see what happens with MJ...But what's the deal with the face-offs? People over the weekend posted here that face-offs are irrelevant, but I question that, especially for a puck-possession team like the Caps and especially for a guy who they would want to play on the PK. Remember, we're not talking about the difference between a 45% and 55% player - we're talking about a guy who is virtually incapable of winning face-off at the NHL level. I wonder whether they will want to send him to Hershey to work on that."

Posted by: zmega

I saw MJ for the first time Friday night. My impression was WOW is this kid going to be a player or what? Is he ready now? That's actually a tough call. It might be best for his development to spend a year at the AHL or Swedish Elite League. I think winning face-offs will come around to an acceptable level. I don't think that will be the deciding factor on sending him down though. The Caps will get guys to help him with that (face-offs) like they did with Nicky and Flash. Neither of those set the world on fire but they did improve to a (mostly) acceptable level.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | October 4, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

great interview with Belak - although when TO stuck Tie Domi on the 1st line that sort of signaled they weren't a serious contender, whatever else Domi was, he was by no stretch of the imagination a first-line NHLer. Great fighter, good guy to have on your team - but not a 1st-liner.

Also, BB is nuts if he even thinks about not continuing the Poti-Carlson pairing, that was hands-down the Caps' best defensive duo last spring - and the #2 pairing wasn't even close. I like Alzner, but the A just ain't the NHL, much as we might wish it to be. Big jump.

That said, when it comes to the Schultz-Green pairing - tweak away BB.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | October 4, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

sgm- I doubt Flash being an all-star center this year or any other but I will predict he scores 25 or more goals this season regardless of where he plays.

- I will also predict that OV gets 60/or more goals this season.
- Carlson gets the Calder(almost sure he still qualifies).
- Caps advance to at least the Conference Finals.
- Crosby continues to be a punk a*s bit#h.
- Many fans will question before eating or discarding their hot dogs at Verizon if the dark specks are in fact rat turds or some other unknown substance.

That's right fools, Funky's calling these things now, before the season starts!

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | October 4, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

All we need is a good computer script for the voting.

Posted by: Dizruption |

don't forget erskine and sloan

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 4, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

@Funky - I like those predictions, I think they're all pretty good, esp. the Carlson and Ovie ones, and Flash could hit 75-80 pts. But that Crosby one in particular is right-on.

O-T [well not really, you brought up the food at VC] - Legal Seafood's across the street has great seafood and a good bar.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | October 4, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

@SAOTI - right you are, someone else would have to get cut...hmmm. (I just am not crazy about Steckel because a tad slowish...) A. Gordon and waivers - yes, another good point.

@FGIF - yes Flash can score 25. I think one thing he's got to learn on the half boards is to keep moving. Small guys that are good on the boards (Gretzky was) dip in and out and keep their skates moving. Flash tends to plant into a tripod and people come along and crush him.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | October 4, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

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