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NHL free agency begins

The doors to a decidedly shallow 2010 free agent market just opened. Nothing to report yet, obviously. But you can check out my story in today's Post here and owner Ted Leonsis's comments about his team's potentially conservative plans here.

I'll post an update on any Caps-related moves/signings as soon as I get 'em. In the meantime, feel free to chat away in the comments section below.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  July 1, 2010; 12:01 PM ET
 
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Comments

There are actually some decent defensemen to be had... would be nice

Posted by: vafan3 | July 1, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

and here we go

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Martin Biron to Rangers 2 yr deal

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Cullen for 2 years now, then Brad Richards for Flash (assuming flash goes arbitration and gets a one year deal) and a pick at the trade deadline.

Posted by: ohaque23 | July 1, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Brad Richards? We don't need another cherry-picking, "what is defense?", forward on this team.

Paille re-ups in Beantown. Good energy guy.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Gonch to Ottawa

Posted by: vafan3 | July 1, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Sergei Gonchar has signed in OTT for three years at $5.5M plus a NTC.

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

at 5.5 mil/yr. Damn...Sergei is racking it in.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

So you have listed 3 defenseman worth signing.

AV for 4 yrs at $4.5/yr
Michalek for 4 years at $3.25/yr
Mitchell for 3 to 4 years at $3.5/yr

No other UFA is worth going after accoridng to you. So those are the guys.

We can now use this as a reference point for future conversation. If AV signs a contract with another team for 4 yrs at $4.25/yr you have full reign to criticize GMGM. If another GM gives AV a contract for 5 yrs at $5.2M/yr you cannot criticize GMGM because you have stated at the start of the free agent period that that would be a bad deal.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Happy for Gonch.

Posted by: vafan3 | July 1, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Gonch just made Ottawa better.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

The Gonchar signing is surprising. I did not expect Ottawa to do that.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

This gives Ottawa a decent PP qb/offensive weapon from their blue line. Something they haven't had for a while now. Great replacement for Anton, their needs are opposite our needs.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Losing Gonchar hurts Pitt big time.

What were the Flyers thinking? Mezaros makes $4m per year, for 4 more years. Awful.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Coburn re-ups with Philly. Pronger, Carle, Coburn, Mezsaros, Timonen.

Someone from Philly has to be moved now, whether it be forward or on defense.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Lebrun just tweeted that Gonch's deal is 5.5 per yr for 3yrs and has a NTC. Sorry, I wouldn't have done that deal. I like Gonch and all but I hate NTC's for a player well into his 30's.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

@underpants2

I agree. Mezaros is very overpaid and with how close Philly is to the cap I think that is a poor move.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

So minutes into free agency the Rangers sign Biron. This was their priority? A backup goalie? Talk about a misguided GM!

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Tanguay to Calgary

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Too much for Gonchar. He looked old and tired in the playoffs last year.

Posted by: fanohock1 | July 1, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

i guess philly can't really sign a goalie now, except leighton

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Well with Gonch in OTT, volk is not going to sign there, where is he going and for how much. Maybe he will do a Hossa deal for a year to win a cup...

Posted by: RichC3 | July 1, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

He looked old and tired in the playoffs last year.

Posted by: fanohock1 |

That's an understatement. He looked flat out lazy.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Caps trade Poti, Flash & Bourque to Ottawa for Spezza & a pick

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

@pokerface

I think Biron for that price is a good deal. He is half the cost of Leighton and, IMO, Biron is just as good if not better than Leighton.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Tampa will be making a goalie move for sure, now that they have moved Mezaros. My bet is Nabakov. Tampa will be a factor in the SE if they grab a goalie.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

i guess philly can't really sign a goalie now, except leighton

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 12:30 PM |

They re-upped Leighton yesterday. They still have cap problems though, what with re-signing Coburn plus acquiring Meszaros.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

@pokerintheface:
nice one! :-|

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Yzerman is interested in Chris Mason

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

SGM3 - I'm not saying it's a good or bad deal. My point was the Rangers flat couldn't score last yr outside of Gaborik and they already have Lundy in nets, why in the world would your priority be in a backup goalie and not address scoring?

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I always felt Mike Smith wasn't that bad of a goaltender, but yeah, it would really help Tampa out to get a solid, legit #1 guy.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Tanguay is 1 yr, 1.7 mil

sortable deals:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=25880

live blog on TSN of FA:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=326225

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

@all:
for all my pro-Willie Mitchell talk, I just checked and he's only had 50-60 hits per season with about 110 blocked shots... hmmm... Thoughts?

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

he's aggressive when he needs to be. He's a guy that will be very nasty against top players from other teams, that's his speciality. No more Crosby standing around at will without getting blasted.

But then again, ShaMo sorta did the same thing for us the way he'd go hit Crosby or Jagr or Vinny.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Supposedly the Caps are "in" on trading for Ladd.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Capitals supposedly in on Ladd.

Great energy guy/PK, with offensive upside.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

AV for 4 yrs at $4.5/yr
Michalek for 4 years at $3.25/yr
Mitchell for 3 to 4 years at $3.5/yr

No other UFA is worth going after accoridng to you. So those are the guys.

We can now use this as a reference point for future conversation. If AV signs a contract with another team for 4 yrs at $4.25/yr you have full reign to criticize GMGM. If another GM gives AV a contract for 5 yrs at $5.2M/yr you cannot criticize GMGM because you have stated at the start of the free agent period that that would be a bad deal.
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now you do realize that I allowed you to paint me into a corner right? even though the parameters are a tad unfair because there are so many other variables at play here. But based on what you wrote above yes I agree that if another GM gives AV a contract at or above 5.25 that it is too much and not fair to criticize GM for this specific thing. However, I never said that NO OTHER UFAs are worth pursuing. There are a few out there that I would like to see on the Caps. But based on what this team needs, the priority of pursuing those FAs is what I outlined in my initial response to you. If I don't get those guys then there are other options out there I like. And not just for the C or D positions either. But other tweaks.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Not sure I get this but Tanguay just went back to Calgary.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I hope these Savard/Regehr talks go away. Both players have NTCs anyway.

Take Semin Calgary!

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

first good news i've heard about who the Caps are interested in in about 13 yrs. Ladd is a legitimate nhl body on the wing and he's a heckuva lot more consistent using his body to win puck battles than a Chimera. If we get Ladd, that gives us a better look on our top 2 lines if thats where they slot him in. And a better body on the wing on the PP too.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

@pokerace

The Rangers absolutely have to address all the points you mention but the Biron signing won't prevent that. He signed for $800k/yr. Every team has to have a backup goalie and you aren't going to find many much cheaper than that.

This came from Darren Dreager:

"Lots of Regehr rumours. Regehr has a no-move and hasn't yet been asked to waive."

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

question is, who do the Hawks want back, and does McPhee finally pull the trigger to get back a quality balanced player instead of the one-dimensional types?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

40 minutes in, Pens are worse, Flyers shat their pants.

Why in the world would Philadelphia acquire a defender that makes $4m for 4 more years? Plus, Mezaros has been terrible in Tampa.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

the Caps as a team on the ice are the exact opposite of the front office of the team... the team on the ice is all about taking risks and playing the high risk/high reward system while the front office is anything BUT taking risks. Unless those two units become more in sync with each other, meaning the on-ice product becomes more conservative while the front office becomes more willing to take risks, I don't see this team doing much in the playoffs.

also you don't hear the owners or GMs of the top teams in any sport say anything other than we're gonna try to win it every year. they do NOT say we're gonna try to win it but... if you hear Leonsis or GMGM talk there's always a BUT. if that's not a sign that they don't want it as badly as some of you think they do, some of you are just blind.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton:
hmmmm, no so sure anymore... I thought Mitchell was more physical (hits) AND better defensively (blocked shots, punishing players in front)...

Off to a company birthday lunch...

I'll see everyone when the dust has setteld more...

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

also you don't hear the owners or GMs of the top teams in any sport say anything other than we're gonna try to win it every year. they do NOT say we're gonna try to win it but... if you hear Leonsis or GMGM talk there's always a BUT. if that's not a sign that they don't want it as badly as some of you think they do, some of you are just blind.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 12:41 PM

No, you're just misreading things like usual, joke.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

My game was just to put you in GMGM's chair this morning, heading to free agency. So you would be in the same corner any new GM would be if they joined the Caps yesterday. This game was only meant to be done to be able to criticize free agent signings. Nothing else. Not overall performance or anything, just the free agent moves made this offseason.

Yes, trades can be made but it is too hard because so much speculation is dependent on the other team accepting trade proposals and that is hard to guess.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Joke - Ted and GMGM do nothing BUT talk about winning the Cup. Like I said dude, try and make a positive comment. Just tell your dog he's good. It'll make you feel better.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

If the Hawks are shopping Ladd I would imagine it would be for a cheap player (A.Gordon or Pizzito) and a draft pick.

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

"TSN Moderator: Hurricanes agreed to terms with Anton Babchuk on a one-year deal. The contract will pay Babchuk $1.4 million in 2010-11."

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Would LA take Green and Semin for Drew Doughty? If I am GMGM I make that trade in half a second

Posted by: mireskan | July 1, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Joke - Ted and GMGM do nothing BUT talk about winning the Cup. Like I said dude, try and make a positive comment. Just tell your dog he's good. It'll make you feel better.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:44 PM

I thought that was cstanton yesterday. Joke just needs to make some intelligent comments.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Jake, I agree they can't want much in return especially given their salary situation. I know they're better off then what they were but I bet they're still trying to shave some.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Tanguay's almost 2 mil/yr cap hit comes with a NMC?!@?!

Sutter...oh Sutter....lol

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"TSNBobMcKenzie: Deal is not done yet, stress that, but Paul Martin eager to sign in PIT and PIT eager to sign him. Working towards that. Stay tuned"

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Would LA take Green and Semin for Drew Doughty? If I am GMGM I make that trade in half a second

Posted by: mireskan | July 1, 2010 12:47 PM

Either is worth Doughty by themselves. I'm glad you're not GM.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

rumor: Martin close with Pens

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

McKenzie says the Pens are close to signing Paul Martin.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Pens and Paul Martin talking...we'll see.

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Either is worth Doughty by themselves. I'm glad you're not GM.

Posted by: timmyv38

No way is either worth Doughty alone.

To answer the original question, no way in hell LA makes that deal.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Pens may get Martin. That wouldn't be good for the Caps. Martin is good.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Doughty in on the level with Crosby and Ovechkin, untouchable.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm not as worried about Pens getting Martin as I would be if they got Atrain. The Pens in consecutive yrs have lost key Dmen now. Gonch is gonna hurt them.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Would LA take Green and Semin for Drew Doughty? If I am GMGM I make that trade in half a second

Posted by: mireskan | July 1, 2010 12:47 PM

Either is worth Doughty by themselves. I'm glad you're not GM

No way LA makes that trade for either one straight up. Losing the salary of those two will allow Caps to sign Volchenkov and get Doughty. So that trade in essence becomes Green and Semin for Doughty and Volchenkov.

Posted by: mireskan | July 1, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Doughty in on the level with Crosby and Ovechkin, untouchable.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 12:52 PM |

He'll win 5 Norris'.

I said it.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Latest from ESPN...

UPDATE: Dallas Dave reports the Washington Capitals and Carolina Hurricanes are in on Volchenkov. If you'll remember, there was a rumor the Caps would offer Volchenkov $5 million, but they denied it. Perhaps they were just posturing. Oh, and Dallas Dave appears to have broken the Gonchar news, so he might be a source worth keeping an eye on.

Posted by: eorr | July 1, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I bet Donald Sterling talks about winning a NBA championship as well... LMAO

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if carries any weight or not, never heard of Dallas Dave!

Posted by: eorr | July 1, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton:
hmmmm, no so sure anymore... I thought Mitchell was more physical (hits) AND better defensively (blocked shots, punishing players in front).

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if you haven't watched him play, then take my word for it. He gets the job done. And no defenseman we currently have can make the type of open ice hits Mitchell has made in his career. He's not the A-Train but he's capable of delivering punishing hits and his forte is to get under the skin of top line players. He's an effective presence on the ice. Sometimes you look beyond the stats. Trust me, I'd never defend Mitchell if he was a softie.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

A-train is looking for 6 million a year, Caps cant afford him.....

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Sean O'Donnell available? Very servicable lower-pairing defenseman.

Might be worth a look.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

@eorr

I actually read an article last night that was stated that Dallas Dave was a very credible source who is often the first to release news about trades and such. I found it funny because I never heard of him earlier and his name is unexpected for a hockey insider.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

And I know he's old.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Caps could sign AV for like 7 years, @30M. Cap hit would be under $5m.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

well if we get ladd i sure hope we don't have to give up our 2 best checking line prospects in Hershey in AG and SP. When we got Fedorov we gave up Ted Ruth, our only real pseudo-rugged defensive dman prospect at the time

I'd like to see AG and SP's work on the bottom 2 lines this year. We need that energy boost and good all-around play.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Never heard of this Dave from Dallas fellow. I know of a lady Debbie that does some stuff in Dallas.

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

would've liked Sean O'Donnell about 3 yrs ago tops. He's got nothing left and with Erskine already here there's no point.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell is not an upgrade.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

anyone with a computer in his mommy's basement could start such a rumour... means absoutely NOTHING

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

debbie from dallas reports Flash, Sarge, Green, Semin, Alzner for Brown, Doughty, Greene, Stoll.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

st.louis resigned for 4 year with tampa

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

He's got nothing left and with Erskine already here there's no point.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:02 PM |

Actually, I thought he looked pretty good in the playoffs this year. I watch a lot of Kings hockey, and he has definetely lost some of his speed and skill, but he'll still block a shot or get physical when needed.

You're right though, he may be a little too old to fit in with the Caps.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

And everyone with a computer is an expert in here...

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell is not an upgrade.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:03 PM |

Neither is Mitchell.

Again, I point to the idea of fresh blood.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Pitt sign Michalek

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

and there goes the move: Michalek to the Pens. what about Volchenkov now???

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Scott Burnside: Source tells me Penguins and Kings in the hunt for Paul Martin's services. As for Minny or Toronto, no.

Thursday July 1, 2010 13:05 Scott Burnside
13:06 Real_ESPNLeBrun: Burnside reports Pitt and LA leading the charge for Martin

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

You're right though, he may be a little too old to fit in with the Caps.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

not only that, kinda like the Scott Walker deal you know the Caps really don't see an O'Donnell type as being necessary to give decent minutes too. Even if he was younger and we ended up inheriting him somehow, he'd have a hard time cracking Boudreau's top 6. The O'Donnell types fit closer to Boston's system/philosophy than they do the Caps.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

tsn reporting Michelak to Pitt... done.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

That takes Pitt out of the running for Anton and Martin, at least.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

We need to sign Volchenkov.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Michalek Headed To Pittsburgh SUCKS!

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

great pickup for Pittsburgh. Lets see what the terms were. Michalek definitely has youth and upside going for him.

luckily the Caps have "7 dmen ready to go"

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

michalek signs 5 years for $20 mil. not bad

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@underpants
We cant afford A-Train, he wants 6 mil a year

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Per TSN: Michalek is off to Pitt for five years and $20 mil.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

That's not bad at all, a great signing in fact.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I'd take Michalek over Gonch. He's younger and more physical. Letang can pick up the offensive slack.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

looks like GMGM is having a nice nap...

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

yeah, but if Michalek signs for $4 mil a year, what are Vol, Martin & Hamhuis gonna want?? not sure the Caps make that kind of move.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

looks like GMGM is having a nice nap...

Posted by: joek443

Wake him up, we need to respond! We can make all of these moves moot with the signing of AV. Get OV on the phone with him.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

The Pens signed Michalek to a much larger contract than you thought was the max.

Your max was 4 year for $3.25M/yr

Pitt signed him for 5 years for $4M/yr

In addition, the Pens have lost Gonchar and signed Michalek. Most hockey analysts consider that a minus. But they still might do more.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Hamhuis must want over 4 mil a year he would be a nice pick up for the Caps but again we need someone who will want 4 mil or less...

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Michalek to Pit.

Posted by: BACKS | July 1, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Hamhuis must want over 4 mil a year he would be a nice pick up for the Caps but again we need someone who will want 4 mil or less...

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

You really think Martin or Hamhuis deserves more than Michalek?

Michalek signing shouldn't change the price tags for the other guys because 4 mil/yr sounds right for Michalek.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Like I said yesterday if the Caps do something on D it will be for Kurtis Foster or Willie Mitchell. Only way they do something bigger is if Semin is traded to Calgary for Regehr and Langkow or something along those lines. They are focusing on the Center position. Koivu or Modano will be here in about an hour.

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

5 years, 4M per year for Michalek. He is good but I was expecting something closer to 3M per for him.

I wonder if GMGM made an offer. Guessing if he did it was in the 3 to 3.5M range.

Posted by: pkendrick | July 1, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

We can go over the cap, forget the cap for now. If we need to waive and bury guys, so be it.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

@underpants2

Exactly, teams can go 10% over the cap during the summer period.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

looks like TEB is having a nice nap too... or both he and GMGM are trying to find out where LeBron will end up...

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why so many people felt like he was going to sign for less than what he got. He's entering the prime of his career, and is now locked in Pitts. for the next 5 years; the prime years of one's career. He's a great two-way defender with a lot of heart.

It's like when people on here kept telling me Pleks would sign for way less than he did. No way, these guys are entering their prime. These are their big contracts right here.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I guess there are about 20 other GM's napping too since no news has come out in the 1st hour and a 1/2 of free agency for about 20 teams.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil - Which is why none of them are GM's...

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

martin close to signing with the wild?

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

hoover:

are you a GM?? maybe timmy is the gm. get over it man, everyone here is an armchair gm with an opinion. that is what this blog is for and why most of us donks come here.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Nope, and no claim to be. Nothing to get over. Just my fan given right to comment, like you.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

hoover:

right on

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

@jdhoover

Yeah, but I don't want it to seem like I'm trying to be an expert here. I've gotten extensions and such wrong before, I just was always baffled at why, for so long, people thought we could afford Plekanecs comfortably.

Michalek @ 4 mil/yr is a steal to me. You got a great defender with a ton of heart locked in his best years for the next 5 years. 3 mil/yr, etc is just low-balling it. He's a two-way guy as well, much more offensive upside than AV.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

I always laugh when someone suggests a player sign for less money just to win a championship... stuff like that happens ONLY when the player is just about washed up.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

The Pens signed Michalek to a much larger contract than you thought was the max.

Your max was 4 year for $3.25M/yr

Pitt signed him for 5 years for $4M/yr
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actually i don't think thats bad in hindsight considering that he has youth on his side. If he was on the other side of 30, it would a very questionable move. I'm not trying to backpedal here but 5 yrs/20 mill is not a bad contract to offer a Michalek. He's a top 4 guy and you've tied him up for 5 yrs in his prime.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Halak pushed out.... for AULD? Geesh..

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

scary, i just read richphil's post. Almost identical to mine. Hell just froze

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Habs goaltending is a headscratcher

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Halak pushed out.... for AULD? Geesh..

Posted by: jdhoover

Eh, Auld will be back-up for Price.

Sather was actually smart for once in not signing Auld and grabbing Biron for slightly cheaper. They are both serviceable backups, but I'd take Biron for my money.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Comment of the day... He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld!

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Colby Armstrong to the Leafs

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Only way they do something bigger is if Semin is traded to Calgary for Regehr and Langkow
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don't see that happening. I like both those players but neither one (esp Langkow) fits in with how the Caps think. They're not going to sign a FA center for their 2nd line unless he's highly skilled which Langkow is not. He gets the job done in other ways but he's not one of those no-look passing guys. And he suffered a bad neck injury last yr and he's already 34. Great player in his prime, loved what he brought to the table but not exactly something the Caps would covet.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Leafs got Armstrong. They will be improved, and still can move Kaberle.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I guess I am not sold on Price being able to go 60 or more. I don't think I could trust auld with more than that.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I like Armstrong, but Burke really needs to save as much money as possible for a legit #1 center. Top-3 guy at least.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Colby Armstrong just signed 3yrs a 3Mper with Toronto

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong $3 mil a year for 3 years. nice signing.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Colby Armstrong to the Leafs

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

damn do i love how brian burke can quickly transform a team. That will be one nasty team to play against. They added Mike Brown and now Colby in the last few days.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

i would've liked to see colby armstrong or eric nystrom here.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Fans of Southeast Division teams rejoice everywhere, as Nittymaki as signed in San Jose, and more importantly, in the West.

No longer the SE division killer.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

IMO, I don't think Michalek is a great defender. I think he is good, but $4M/yr for 5 years is pretty high. Maybe I will be wrong and he will improve and be great.

Also, everything I read labeled as a pure defensive defenseman with not too much offense.

I actually agreed with cstanton1's previous value of Michalek and maybe I would have stretched it to $3.5/yr for 3 or 4 year. 5 years for $4M/yr just seems high to me.

I'm not saying I'm right, we will find that out in the next 5 years. I'm just giving my opinion of the situation.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Sharks pick up Nittymaki

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

damn do i love how brian burke can quickly transform a team. That will be one nasty team to play against. They added Mike Brown and now Colby in the last few days.

Posted by: cstanton1

And Versteeg.

Come on Georgie, give us what we want. This is torture. Make everyone a Georgie fan today!

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Halak pushed out.... for AULD? Geesh..

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:30 PM


Steven Hindle has a very good breakdown of the reasoning behind Montreal's decision to keep Price and let Halak go, definitely worth a read as it bring a lot of angles of the trade into perspective and also gives info on the other players involved in the deal:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=28899&blogger_id=139

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I think that's a bit too much for Army, especially for a team like TO who really need top-6 guys.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

O'Donnell to Philly.


:)

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong is a good player but that is a lot of money for a role player.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

What the hell is Philly doing?

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

@metalCapsfan..

Read it. Just don't agree with it. I'm a "show me first" person. I think price hasn't done enough of that yet.

But, tis only an opinion.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Minor heart palpitations : Perrault ro Vancouver. 510,oo per.


JOEL Perrault...

Damn details...

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

@sgm

Michalek was a much more offensively instinctive guy before, but PHX molded him a different way. Look at his stats in the Q. Given the chance to excel in the offensive side of things, he'll do fine. Plus, him and Letang, and Goligoski to an extent, can all share the load of providing that much needed weapon from the back end.

He's not mean and nasty like Anton, but he blocks a ton of shots, while also being pretty mobile.

I personally think he's going to excel in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Also, one more comment about O'Donnell, yeah he's old and slow now, but he still gives any incoming forwards a rough ride around the crease. Something we all know the Caps need.

A younger, faster version would be more ideal, but I still think he would've been a good fit here. While Erskine may be similar, he lacks the experience, leadership of O'Donnell.

Oh well, he's a Flyer.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Not that I would really wish anything bad to happen to somebody (bad form), but I hope he sucks in Pit...

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Malhotra to VAN. Would've been an awesome 3rd line center, but maybe not at that price.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Too much for Malhotra. With the Sharks getting Nitty, they may be making a push for AV/Hamhuis.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I would think its Hamhuis. Doesn't he have a West Coast preference?

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Hamhuis is going to sign in Vancouver.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

don't hate, hoover, because gmgm & ted have decided to stick their heads in the sand

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Ellis to Tampa.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

derek morris to the Yotes

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. Hate.

Maybe. But its not about we don't have or didn't get.

Much more Geographic in nature. Kinda like how I feel about Dallas.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Ellis to Tamps? where?

Or just a feeling?

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Ellis to Tamps? where?

Or just a feeling?

Never mind.. Feeds just updated to me.

Sorry!

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

TSN says Pitt still after Martin and Hamhuis.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

So since the season has ended Phi, Bos, TB, Atl, Ott, Pitt and Tor all in the East have improved their teams. Lets go GMGM

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

it is disconcerting to consider the pieces of the Caps puzzle that could have been filled at decent value and yet the management is sitting with thumbs up you know what

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

A younger, faster version would be more ideal, but I still think he would've been a good fit here. While Erskine may be similar, he lacks the experience, leadership of O'Donnell.
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agreed with the 2nd half of that. But do you seriously think Boudreau will pencil in O'Donnell into the Caps run and gun style of hockey? Its amazing to me that Erskine is still around.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Puck Daddy is doing a live chat with all the TSN guys, rumor site bloggers, and a variety of other hockey talking heads. It's a nice consolidated spot to get all the latest happenings:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-s-2010-Free-Agent-Frenzy-Chatter-Box-?urn=nhl,252737

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

flyers pick up another goon with jody shelley

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

every yr the same teams add more of the same elements

Philly always seems to add the tougher guys like Asham, Carcillo, Lappy. Now O'Donnell. They obviously place a much higher premium on those types of intangible qualities than we do.

Wonder who lands AV.

I'll be halfway happy if we can land Ladd. I'm already a quarter happy that we're showing interest in a Ladd (assuming thats true)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Guess the FLyers fully intend to use the 10% over clause.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of, Flyers signed Shelley.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

jody shelley actually played well last year and the Rags were trying to bring him back.

Damn Flyers. Their fans are so lucky. I don't think as long as McPhee is GM that the Caps will ever bring on a 4th line tough guy type ever again. Those days are gone. We are now officially in Detroit territory. And heck even they briefly brought on Brad May last yr.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

@jdhoover, I think its funny that you don't think Price is a 60 game goalie. And you think Varlamov is?

The main reason they traded Halak is because he priced himself off the team. That plyoff run was magnificent and the Habs tried to get something for him while his stock was still high.

Plus Price is more than a year younger than Halak.

Posted by: jwash4472 | July 1, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

@Hoover

I think they have a trade or two up their sleeves.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Paul Martin to the Pens

Posted by: DaleHunter | July 1, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Our roster is obviously too deep to take on the likes of a Shelley or Boogyman. Flyers must really svck if they squeeze another one of those types onto their team.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Martin is a Pen.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Nice defensive moves by the Pens. Michalek and now Paul Martin.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | July 1, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

sign Boogaard

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

The two main competitors in the East Philly and Pittsburgh get it. To beat us they need to bolster their Defense and they have gone out and done it, yet we just sit around and think we are good enough.

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Paul Martin signs with Pens

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Martin is a Penguin. God dammit. We are no longer the favorite from the east. They added Michalek and Martin.

Get your head out of your a$$ McPhee, sign AV.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Burnside reporting that Pens signed Paul Martin.

The Caps continue to lose the cold war.

Posted by: redrocker2 | July 1, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

Rags apparently targetting Boogeyman.

RE; Martin

Before everyone starts freaking out, keep in mind Martin is mostly an offensive guy. He can play effective in his own zone, sure, but Hamhuis and AV are still out there.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

WOW, the Pens have now got to be the odds on favorites in the East. I expect our offense move will be to sign Guerin. I cannot F'ing believe the Caps management is so F'ing inept.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

great so everyone is getting better

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

It is officially time to panic.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

WOW, the Pens have now got to be the odds on favorites in the East. I expect our offense move will be to sign Guerin. I cannot F'ing believe the Caps management is so F'ing inept.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:32 PM

Which deal(s) that was made today by other teams do you think the Caps should have pulled off?

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Pens and Flyers management moves forward. Caps management, asleep at the wheel, as usual.

I hope they prove me wrong.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I would've liked the Michalek signing.

Martin, I'd pass on.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Martin, Michalek, C. Armstrong.....you know, address our shortcomings (and that would be defense and/or 2nd line center). there were plenty of possibilities

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Boogeyman to Rags is done.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

WOW, the Pens have now got to be the odds on favorites in the East. I expect our offense move will be to sign Guerin. I cannot F'ing believe the Caps management is so F'ing inept.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse


Favorites for what? Top seed in the playoffs or a trip to the SCF? Before today we weren't the favorites to go the SCF and still aren't. And who cares who the regular season favorite is. Any Caps fan who thinks that means jack didn't learn much this spring

Posted by: JS26121820 | July 1, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

boogaard to the rags

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

@jwash4472

No, I don't think he (varly) is at this time. He might be, but needs to prove it. I am on record as saying it could be disastrous to go with what we have. Again, opinion.

Whether Price is over a year(Oh my God!) younger or not, he hasn't proven to be stable. They are betting a lot on him with a skimpy track record - as are we for the record. I am of the camp that wants stability, age and experience at goalie. I just think Halak gave them more of that than Price did. Especially to bring in Auld as the next option so cheaply.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

boogey to new york

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Armstrong @ 3 mil/yr sucks, I'm sorry.

Not sure why we need Martin. Two of the three best defenders the Caps need are still on the market, plus guys like Foster and Mitchell.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Which deal(s) that was made today by other teams do you think the Caps should have pulled off?

Posted by: MetalCapsFan

this seems to be the standard response anytime a deal or trade seems to go thru. Always one person demanding to know what the Caps could possibly do amid a whirlwind of movement.

you're right, McPhee can't do anything. He's impotent.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the Wings signing anyone yet. Are Detroit fans panicking?

Posted by: larryn703 | July 1, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

why do people have to be so trival. given the moves they are making, if you don't think the Pens are positioned well to be the best in the east in the regular season, and make a deep run for the cup then i don't understand where you are coming from.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Boogey vs. Shelley fights will go down!

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the Wings signing anyone yet. Are Detroit fans panicking?

Posted by: larryn703

They are surrounded by cups. Stupid analogy.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so Martin to Pens may not be doner after all:

DarrenDreger: RT @Rossi_on_Pens: Not confirmed yet, but I'm told Pens are CLOSE on Martin

And, he hasn't shown up on TSN's UFA tracker list yet:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=25880

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

@underpants

also none of the main top competition in the West has done anything to improve. Philly, Pitt and Boston are all improved.

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Martin's deal is 5 mil/yr too!

No way!

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

boogey to new york

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awesome, he may actually have some takers this season. Poor Shelley, he can't get away from Boogey. Changes conferences and now he's in the same div.

Devils, Pens, Rangers, and Flyers all have some legit heavies now. Godard, LeBlond, Shelley, Boogey. Good stuff.

Matt Bradley better learn to score some more goals. Otherwise he's going to have to learn to be our resident enforcer

And guys like Pinizotto better keep their head on a swivel because if he throws one his AHL type hits in the NHL against some of these teams, he'll get his head taken off with no Capital players around to save him.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The Pittsburgh Penguis are the CLEAR favorite to win the East next year.

Mitchell or Foster is not enough.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

My problem with GMGM's strategy this offseason is that he's putting so much faith in these young kids playing well and playing consistently, which obviously isn't a guarantee. Windows to win championships close quickly in today's NHL, so if you the opportunity to sign proven players to create good depth down the middle and on the blue line, you have to do it, I think. And what about last season tells GMGM that he has the players to win a Stanley Cup. The playoffs are decidedly not the same as the regular season, which he must've noticed the last three years.

Posted by: CDon | July 1, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

DUDE, the Caps ARE NOT the Wings. geez, where did all of the silliness come from. Richmond, i am not sure i see the Caps making deals for those guys, either. my point was that the management has made NO move (or even rumored to) to improve the team.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Caps need grit....smallish and soft draft picks give you great regular seasons and, well, the playoffs of 2009 an 2010. Sign Volcenkov.

Posted by: mireskan | July 1, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The only rumor I've heard the Caps were in on so far today has been A. Ladd.

GMGM better be talking to Hamhuis and AV's agents.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the Wings signing anyone yet. Are Detroit fans panicking?

Posted by: larryn703 | July 1, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

they also recently won a Cup along with the ones they won in the late 90s. Their fans have a right to show more trust than Caps fans do. Next point?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, Martin signing confirmed, 5 yrs/ $25 mil. So, you can guess where the market is going for Hamhuis and Volchenkov. Someone is gonna overpay.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

RE; Boogey

Sather gave him 4 years @ 1.65 mil/yr.

Now, I like Boogey, but I think even cstanton can admit that's too much for him.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

watch, after the Caps end up not doing anything some fans will say

"well what did you expect? He said he wasn't going to make any splashes. GM is a man of his word"

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Hamhuis & Volchenkov are at least $5 mil per year. Given the comments of both Ted & GMGM, i just don't see that happening. everyone is stoked for King Karl, right????

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Flyers are gonna have to make some trades to offset all the salary they've added. They must have something going, otherwise they wouldn't have made those moves, even with the 10% exception. Anyone you guys would be willing to take on? Carter? Hartnell? Carcillo?

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Haven't posted, but have been reading all day. I'll be honest, I don't have the knowledge you guys have on the specific players and their skills because I just don't have the time to watch other teams much, so I respect y'alls knowledge and don't put forth an uninformed opinion.

However, speaking in generalities, I have to say I'm not worried. Washington sports fans of all people should know not to get excited about winning the offseason wars (see D. Snyder). Let Pitt have their fun today. Someone made a really good point yesterday that it's not necessarily a bad thing to roll with what we got for the most part until the trade deadline and then find a couple of useful rentals. What about today changed that as being a viable strategy?

Posted by: JS26121820 | July 1, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Strictly defensive players are not worth that much. Hopefully, all other Gm's are able to recognize that.

Martin at 5 mil/yr is ridiculous, but at least he provides offensive upside.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

how the hell does pit have the money for both? They are still going to be pitiful on the wings.

Posted by: BACKS | July 1, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Pens can have Martin. He's not a shutdown type.

Is that too much for Boogey? Depends on how the Rags plan to use him. I'm guessing the plan is to give him 10+ shifts per game. He's a very smart enforcer who can use his body very effectively. He changed the tones of many games for the Wild with his timely hitting and bulling. He even drew penalties from teams who were frustrated with his crushing hits. Much better option than Brashear. And with Prust AND Boogey, the Rags are able to match upto the Flyers physicality fairly evenly. Can't wait to see Prust go it with Carcillo while the two heavies tangle

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

for the right price, i would take Hartnell. add him to the 2nd line with Brooksie or Fehr.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

They had the money, but they no longer have much of any space. I think they have the least amount of space in the league right now, actually. But their roster has 21 players on it, so they could be done. Minus some tweaking.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Haven't posted, but have been reading all day. I'll be honest, I don't have the knowledge you guys have on the specific players and their skills because I just don't have the time to watch other teams much, so I respect y'alls knowledge and don't put forth an uninformed opinion.

However, speaking in generalities, I have to say I'm not worried. Washington sports fans of all people should know not to get excited about winning the offseason wars (see D. Snyder). Let Pitt have their fun today. Someone made a really good point yesterday that it's not necessarily a bad thing to roll with what we got for the most part until the trade deadline and then find a couple of useful rentals. What about today changed that as being a viable strategy?

Posted by: JS26121820

Terrible. The Penguins just passed us by a mile. The Flyers were past us, they are better. The Bruins, the Leafs, the Lightning, all better.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

RE; Boogey

Sather gave him 4 years @ 1.65 mil/yr.

Now, I like Boogey, but I think even cstanton can admit that's too much for him.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:47 PM

Makes sense as Boogey and Gaborik are former teammates, and it's in the Rags best interests to make sure there isn't a repeat of the Carcillo/Gaborik incident. And, no, not trying to get into the enforcer debate right now.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Actually, that's in reference to Philly. Pittsburgh has about 2 mil of cap space left with 20 players.

"Least cap space 1. Phi, $577,738 (21 players) 2 Pit, $2,258,333 (20) 3. Ott, $3,109,166 (21) 4. Chi, $4,093,663 (13) 5. Bos, $4,465,357 (18) "


@cstanton

Far, far, far too much for him. Really no way to spin it. They should've learned after the Brash deal.

RE; Flyers

The only one I would want is Carcillo. Hartnell is nice, but he makes wayyy to much.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

the trade deadline strategy has 2 shortcomings: 1) don't know what kind of talent is going to be available; and 2) players added have little to no time to mesh with the current team.

i just think it is silly to not make moves when plenty of needed pieces are available TODAY

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if Tarik will have the jewels to ask McPhee his opinion on how the Caps arch rivals have improved so far this offseason and how the Caps plan to keep up

McPhee: we have 7 NHL ready dmen ok! We feel Alzner and Carlson are better than Martin and Michalek.

Irony is that the Pens aren't the only teams the Caps have to worry about in the East. Now they have the Flyers, Rangers, Bruins etc to worry about not to mention the improving teams in the SE.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Flyers are up against it...

capgeek: Least cap space 1. Phi, $577,738 (21 players)

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1: You are insane. He is not typical shutdown, but better than anyone we have. Tremendous mean streak. Him and Michalek are tremendous signings. and it appears the Pens will do what we should be doing, giving some of the young guys a chance at this level. WHO CARES ABOUT CALDER CUPS, if those guys never come up!

Posted by: stop_it | July 1, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

@Metalfan and cstanton

You're telling me a guy who averages 5:09 TOI in 255 games is worth 1.65 mil/yr ?

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Are we really talking about the Bruins and Rangers being somehow vastly improved? They're good, but they don't worry me as much as Pittsburgh, which still has a shortage of talent at the wing positions, and Philly, which is still questionable in goal. I would say Philly and Pitt may've passed the Caps, but the Rangers and Bruins haven't, in my mind.

Posted by: CDon | July 1, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Leafs have really improved upfront. This is sort of a return to old time hockey. With Atlanta, Tampa and Toronto muscling up the last 2 yrs and now the Rangers and Flyers continuing their usual trends, the East should be a black n blue conference. The Bruins aren't slouchy in that dept either and the Pens can always hang in there physically with any team.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Pens are paying $9M/yr for the next 5 years for Martin and Michalek.

They had pathetic skill on the wings last year and now have lost Guerrin (assuming he does not return).

Remember they have lost Gonchar as well, who is considered better than either Martin or Michalek. They are also losing Jordan Leopold and Mark Eaton.

So from last year they lose Eaton, Leopold, Gonchar and Guerrin and gain Michalek and Martin. Their wings are even weaker and their defense in not that much than last years. Martin is good but considered worse than Gonchar. Michalek is good but how much better is he than Leopold and Eaton? Pens will have to get a cheap D man to replace one of those two players.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

i would give anything for the caps to have an enforcer like boogey, but 1.625 for 4 years is too much

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

@sgm

Pens have 6 defenders on their roster currently, if you include Lovejoy.

They have about 2 mil of space with 20 roster positions filled.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I guess GMGM wasn't bluffing about not making moves.......They lost in the 1st round. I don't care what their regular season record was, when it counted most, all but a few guys folded their hands. I don't want to see the same team again next year! And I'm not saying we need to make a bunch of moves, but I think they may be playing it a bit too conservative.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | July 1, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

You're telling me a guy who averages 5:09 TOI in 255 games is worth 1.65 mil/yr ?
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sure, if they project him to take on more of a role with their team. If you paid attention to what he did for the Wild last year, you'd see what an impact he could have. Part of it is Sather likes those guys, but part of it may be that he may get more ice time. Remember that Brash was pulling down a million, and Boogey is a much better option so another.65mil/season may not be outlandish.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Pens are paying $9M/yr for the next 5 years for Martin and Michalek.

They had pathetic skill on the wings last year and now have lost Guerrin (assuming he does not return).

Remember they have lost Gonchar as well, who is considered better than either Martin or Michalek. They are also losing Jordan Leopold and Mark Eaton.

So from last year they lose Eaton, Leopold, Gonchar and Guerrin and gain Michalek and Martin. Their wings are even weaker and their defense in not that much than last years. Martin is good but considered worse than Gonchar. Michalek is good but how much better is he than Leopold and Eaton? Pens will have to get a cheap D man to replace one of those two players.

Posted by: sgm3


The Pens are MUCH better on D now then they were last year. You are rationalizing. There is no argument to be made.

McPhee is failing in grand fashion.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Lydman to Anaheim 3 years $3M per. Another D-man gone. Come on GMGM. Makes me wonder if we'll here the big news that the Caps sign...Shaone Morrisson

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Which deal(s) that was made today by other teams do you think the Caps should have pulled off?

Posted by: MetalCapsFan

this seems to be the standard response anytime a deal or trade seems to go thru. Always one person demanding to know what the Caps could possibly do amid a whirlwind of movement.

you're right, McPhee can't do anything. He's impotent.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 2:40 PM

I wasn't giving GMGM a get outta jail free card. I was asking a legitimate question, which is, of the deals completed, which ones would everyone had agreed with had McPhee been able to pull them off?

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Yea, the pens improved on the blueline, but they didnt make the type of moves that makes them seem unstopable. Everyone needs to stop suggesting that they are some juggernaut now. They atill have the same issue as last year. No finishers on the wings. I appreciate the fact that their defense just got better, but who the hell is going to play with Crosby and Malkin?

Posted by: BACKS | July 1, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@sgm

Pens have 6 defenders on their roster currently, if you include Lovejoy
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are you including Engelland in that mix too? I think he'll see some ice time this season with the Pens as their "Erskine" type. I know they recently re-signed him.
Loved what he did in Hershey and was hoping we'd give him a chance. He played briefly last yr with the Pens and looked very serviceable. Just a big hitter with a big body and incredibly strong. I have never seen Engelland get controlled physically by any player. He's got that Gary Nylund type of physique.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The Boogard signing reminds me of the Rangers Brasher signing last year. So good that they bought him out the following year. The Rangers need goal scoring, they haven't improved that at all. They do not have a #1 center and have not re-signed Staal, but they have tied up $1.65M/yr in a guy who play less than 6 minutes a game, so a guy who is worthless in the playoffs.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

the deals are being announced by people on this blog. just me talking, but many would have been decent moves for the Caps.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Flyers have $577K space and are one player short. BUT, that doesn't include VanR's bonus. Count that and the at least one more roster player they'll need and they are over.

They have good offense, great defense and highly questionable goaltending.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

With Jeff Carter repeatedly being the subject of trade rumors, would anyone here be in favor of taking on his $5 million salary in what might end up as a rental situation? We do need a 2nd line center.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

sgm3: Pens D is much much better (on paper) right now then last year. Don't know how much hockey you watch, but those two were in the top 5 d free agents. They will bring up Eric Tangradi and probably Mark Letestu and D man Ben Lovejoy. Trust me, they are going to be much tougher this year, supposing Fleury doesn't falter again.

Posted by: stop_it | July 1, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Michalek is good but how much better is he than Leopold and Eaton
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imo, a significant upgrade. You can take advantage of Eaton and Leopold (eaton especially). Michalek holds his own.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

No, I did not include Engelland in the mix. Who could very well serve as their "7th d-man."

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=26

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

@MetalCapsFan

Carter isnt getting dealt. Holmgren said he will never deal him. Gagne or Brierre would be who they trade, most likely Gagne.

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

by the way, the Pens still have Cap money, have been active so far and can still make moves. given what they have done so far, i would be calling them out just yet for not signing a wing yet.

but to say they aren't a much improved team is silly

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The Boogard signing reminds me of the Rangers Brasher signing last year. So good that they bought him out the following year.
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terrible analogy

Brash was washed up when he was here. Boogey isn't washed up in the least, in fact he improved his skating last year. More upside, better hitter, dominant fighter.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Carter will be an RFA next year.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Why did we not jump on a d-man yet? If GMGM thinks Alzner is better than the two signed, we are in trouble.

Posted by: stop_it | July 1, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

remember, Boogy was the prize tough guy of the FA class. Of course he'll command more than he may truly be worth. But so does every FA. So why not the tough guys?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Pens might sign Ray Whitney, too.

Posted by: CDon | July 1, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"so a guy who is worthless in the playoffs."

guess you didn't watch the 4th line when the Ducks won the Cup. Their 4th line of May/Thornton/'PornStache weren't useless at all

goes back to organizational philosophy. Not all teams view their 4th liners the same.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

@stop_it

Yes the Pens added two defenders. One good in Michalek and one very good in Martin, but the Pens LOST one extremely good defender in Gonchar(rated higher by every hockey analyst). So net, that means they lose out on the Martin for Gonchar trade and gain on the Michalek for Eaton and Leopold trade.

The other defenders mentioned as fillers are fill ins. They have also become worse at wing.

I'm just analyzing their situation. This is not a comparison to the Caps or anybody, just an overall analysis.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Sad to say but yes the Pens have definately upgraded their D. We're upgrading our D just by Carlson and Alzner being in the mix. It would be nice however to add 1 of the remaining big Dmen out there. Mitchell, Atrain or Hamhuis would be a nice upgrade. Then see where we're at when the deadline comes around.

They aren't signed anywhere else yet so there's still hope.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

btw the folks who claim tough guys are useless in the new nhl don't pay attention to the amount of toughness that gets signed or traded each and every year

and even if a tough doesnt play in the playoffs, he's done his job all yr long keeping the other guys healthy.

ever consider that?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

PHX got Whitney.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

ray whitney to Yotes, 2 years at $3 mil per

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Everybody needs to chill the he@@ out. We're three hours into the FA period, it's not like the season starts tomorrow.

Let's look at who "improved"

Philly? They are maxed on the cap and have punchin' Judy's in net. They need to shed salary (Carter anyone?).

Pens? Yup better D but look at the wings that two of the best centers around have to work with.

Tampa? Please. They sucked last year and will suck this year. No D, and no wings for Vinny.

Leafs? EGADS! Don't be surprised if Boston will have another lottery pick.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 1, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if it's just my bad memory, but I don't remember this place having so much irrationality in the past. We have a really good team. Sure, there are a few tweaks we could use, but there are still plenty of players out there. Plus, it's not like we really need the help until the playoffs.

Just calm down, people. Or better yet, overreact even more by jumping off a bridge, so that we don't have to deal with you anymore.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 1, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Why did we not jump on a d-man yet? If GMGM thinks Alzner is better than the two signed, we are in trouble.

Posted by: stop_it |

Actually, I think the reasoning is Alzner and Carlsson don't need to be better than any free agents. They need to be better that the two D-men they replace. Therefore, an upgrade in place. If the thinking is "we were only a little bit short" then an upgrade in place would seem to have a chance for real improvement.

Not necessarily my opinion. Just a possible explanation.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

So net, that means they lose out on the Martin for Gonchar trade and gain on the Michalek for Eaton and Leopold trade.
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you're not taking Martin's age into account either. Gonchar doesn't have a lot left in that tank. Both dmen were acquisitions that will look better in the future, not just next season.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

asked Shelley is he looks forward to fighting Boogaard 6 times this season: “I certainly am, absolutely,” Shelley replied.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

GMGM lost Whitney, a perfect 2nd line center to PHX for 2X $3M....bad move...he would have made Semin a bonafide second fiddle to OV

Posted by: mireskan | July 1, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

@Metalfan and cstanton

You're telling me a guy who averages 5:09 TOI in 255 games is worth 1.65 mil/yr ?

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 2:57 PM

If the Rags decide to throw care to the wind and allow their enforcer to actually enforce, instead of just participating in staged fights, then it'll make the contract look a lot better. But, we are talking about Sather here, not the best when it comes to making reasoned decisions on salary (see: Gomez, Scott), so it does seem he overpaid to get Boogey. Of course, we don't know who else was bidding to push it that high. There had been a rumor last year that McPhee had tried to obtain Boogey (seriously).

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Um...Whitney isn't a center, and he's 40 years old.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

mireskan:

DUDE, the Caps have Flash or Perrault. why would they ever spend money on a guy like Whitney???

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Leafs? EGADS! Don't be surprised if Boston will have another lottery pick.
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i expect the Leafs to challenge for the playoffs. They haven't just added toughness, they've added guys who can actually play. They may not be overloaded on skill but they don't need to be with the kind of team they're going for. And if that draft pick from last yr Kadri can make the team they should have a competitive roster. Last yr their maligned defense started playing a lot better towards the end of the year.

but first they gotta dump Ron Wilson.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

And remember, any acquisition MUST desire to be here. Twilight of my career, live in pheonix year round, sure I'll sign. Same money in DC? Maybe not.

Just another caveat in the Free agency market.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

1.65 for a one-dimensional enforcer is too much. You can try to spin it any way you want, unless his role is expanded and his ice-time goes up, that contract just looks absurd. Sather or not.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Lombardi apparently seeking highest-bidder. Safe to say, Caps are out on him if that's true.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

so it does seem he overpaid to get Boogey
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its called Free Agency. Everyone has to overpay a bit to get their man. Would a contract of 1.25 million make it "reasonable" ? Whats the cutoff #, because Brash was makin 1 mil/season for us and he sucked.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

@Mireskan, whitneys not a center....


One thing to take out of this: The Pens have really committed themselves financially over the next 4 years. They have little to no flexibility for the foreseeable future. They will be able to make very few if any tweaks come the trade deadline if things dont pan out like they are expecting.

Not saying I think they were bad deals, just another observation.

Posted by: BACKS | July 1, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

And Tampa won the SE last year before the season started.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 1, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

True about the future. I was just talking about next year though for the topic of this conversation.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Uh did anybody see TEB's post yesterday saying that the Caps had $4.5 million of cap space left?

So just how in the world could GMGM have signed a defensemen for $5 million Pittsburgh has?

And that doesn't even take into consideration GMGM's oft stated desire (especially after last season) not to head into the season with no cap space to work with.

That's why Alzner started the season in Hershey and Bourque ended up in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: CapsNut | July 1, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I would love a Flash/Poti/prospect for Regher trade. Calgary seems incompetent enough...

Posted by: BACKS | July 1, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

When Hamhuis signs, he'll be on his 4th team in a week.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse


Uh did anybody see TEB's post yesterday saying that the Caps had $4.5 million of cap space left?

So just how in the world could GMGM have signed a defensemen for $5 million Pittsburgh has?

And that doesn't even take into consideration GMGM's oft stated desire (especially after last season) not to head into the season with no cap space to work with.

That's why Alzner started the season in Hershey and Bourque ended up in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: CapsNut

You can go above the cap by 10% in the offseason. You can move guys after camp.

Pittsburgh knows this. That is why they have cups and we don't.

Salary Cap is a BS reason not to make moves now.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

1.65 for a one-dimensional enforcer is too much. You can try to spin it any way you want, unless his role is expanded and his ice-time goes up, that contract just looks absurd. Sather or not.

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who's spinning? I'm telling you that based on what Boogey showed last year, he already proved he was more than onedimensional. A 4th line tough who just stands around and fights someone off the faceoff is one-dimensional. Boogey played agitator, he played big hitter, he played dominant fighter, he stuck his body in front of the net on draws deep in the defensive zone for a scripted play - that to me is not one-dimensional. And based on what we paid Brash 2 yrs ago, another .65 mil per season is by no means outlandish.

if he only gets 3 shifts per game then of course its a bad move. I doubt very much though that they signed him with that intent. He proved he can skate and get in on the forecheck and punish dmen, and is his primary role. The actual fighting may not even occur that much. But his presence in the lineup is by itself a great deterrent. And he can beat up all the Philly tough guys with one hand behind his back so thats a good bonus. And he's not exactly old either. The salary is acceptable. Youre not getting a guy lke him in FA for something like 800k/yr.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Pens sign Martin and Michalek.
Philly signs O'Donnell and Shelley.

What is GMGM waiting for?

I'm gonna say this right now. If the Caps don't sign Volchenkov...

THE CAPS WILL NOT WIN THE CUP NEXT YEAR. WRITE IT IN STONE.

Posted by: mdmtnbiker | July 1, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Sorry. Not buying the Leafs as a contender this year. They're still unimpressive on the back end and in net, even with JSG.

Posted by: CDon | July 1, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

And remember, any acquisition MUST desire to be here.
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according to some here, every nhl player is dying to play with the Caps. So we can use that as "leverage" or something :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I like what Boogey brings, but NY did the same thing with Brash last year. I understand Boogey brings more talent, but NY has already showed a tendency to pay incredible amounts of money for an enforcer. The New York Rangers do not have enough talent on that roster to be spending so lavishly on a 4th line guy. Thats why they will continue to be hanging around 7th/8th place.

Posted by: BACKS | July 1, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Pens sign Martin and Michalek.
Philly signs O'Donnell and Shelley.

What is GMGM waiting for?

I'm gonna say this right now. If the Caps don't sign Volchenkov...

THE CAPS WILL NOT WIN THE CUP NEXT YEAR. WRITE IT IN STONE.

Posted by: mdmtnbiker

And I'll say that if they do it WONT GUARANTEE A WIN EITHER.

Just sayin.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Salary Cap is a BS reason not to make moves now.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 3:29 PM |

Not really. If you aren't salary cap compliant, you forfeit games.

FYI, teams hardly EVER use that 10% cushion. (It's actually 7.5%) Pittsburgh certainly did not have to invoke it to sign those players.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the Leafs need to be a contender to show significant progress from the pre-Brian Burke days.

They already showed a competitive edge last yr after their initial bumps with all their personnel changes. This year they need to be a playoff contender, nothing more. This really is the start of year 2 of their massive rebuild. And say what you will about Phaneuf and how overrated he is, he brought a real presence to that blueline after the trade.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

The New York Rangers do not have enough talent on that roster to be spending so lavishly on a 4th line guy.
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i can't disagree with that per se.
They do need to upgrade some of their skill. But I also don't know their salary situation. Maybe they can afford him, maybe they have other deals in the works.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

First, the Caps only had $4.5M of cap room so how were they going to sign Paul Martin who essentially replaced Gonchar. They also had never replaced Gil or Scuderi from the prior year which was another reason they had a lot of cap space. The Caps are more likely to make a trade for a tough stay at home defenseman than sign one via free agency. Let's be patient and see what happens over the summer before we crucify GMGM. He may very well be negotiating with other players as we blog.

Posted by: wizfan89 | July 1, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

according to some here, every nhl player is dying to play with the Caps. So we can use that as "leverage" or something :)

Posted by: cstanton1

True, His greatness, OVIE I draws all to his benevolent Hockeyness. Everyone would be stoopid to not come here, take less money, stifle their ego, and get less limelight to be in his Aura.

I know I took less money to work at MY job last go around.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

according to some here, every nhl player is dying to play with the Caps. So we can use that as "leverage" or something :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

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Just like a woman, blowing things out of proportion.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

CapsNut: See my post above. Caps actually have $13M in space if you only count the 16 NHL contracts signed for next year (AO, NB, MK, AS, BL, MB, DS, JC.......Green, Poti, Ersk, Carlson, Alzner, Sloan..... Varly & Neuvy).

They need 6 more players to have a complete roster. Fehr, Gordon, Flash and Schultz, the 4 RFAs, are expected to use up about $8.5M, so you have $4.5M available then with two open spots.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

signing AV "may" get this team past a 1st round.

He would be a nice addition to have. But a few other things need to happen besides just a big hitting defensive dman.

Lets hope we get Ladd. We haven't acquired a young physical forward via trade in as far as I can remember. Esp one who can play on a 2nd line. (and pls don't mention Chimera as an example)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Man, Tarik doesn't seem nearly as involved w/ his coverage as in years past. First he cuts out the chats, then the blog entries and tweets are few and far between.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | July 1, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Just like a woman, blowing things out of proportion.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

along with the pokeherface moniker, your entire personality just suddenly came into view you misogynistic creep.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

The other part about losing/missing out on trades is this. Say things are hot and heavy for Volchenkov. Do you make a run at Hamuis or Martin to CYA just in case? What if they say yes? Do you say hold on until Anton calls us back? Or do you say sign here and ruin it for AV (Then find out he signed for your offer somewhere else because you walked. and you get roasted as a GM in the public eye). If you're sure things will work out, you let them go. We will NEVER know what happens during negotiations.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

The Pens just got better. Bad for the Caps. The Flyers got a little better. Not good for the Caps.
Right now, the Caps are going into next season with an even less-experienced team than this year.

The Caps are falling behind, quickly.

Posted by: mdmtnbiker | July 1, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Yea, Ladd would be good to grab.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 1, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Man, Tarik doesn't seem nearly as involved w/ his coverage as in years past. First he cuts out the chats, then the blog entries and tweets are few and far between.
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covering the Caps is a boring exercise. The GM doesn't tell you squat, and he rarely does squat. If he worked in Philly, NY or Toronto he'd have a lot more to report on

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I believe there is merit to both arguments.

On the one hand, waiting until the March 2011 trade deadline could ensure that the Caps have the salary cap flexibility to make moves when needed late in the season.

On the other hand, siginificant FA signings now could be better because they give the team months--rather than days or weeks--to integrate an incoming player into the team's overall chemistry.

I'm not saying which way is right or wrong (DISCLOSUERE: I am inclined to favor the latter course).

Do I want some of the players we've talked about to join the Caps. Yes.

Am I concerned about GMGM's (apparent) lack of interest in players we seem to need, and the (apparent) improvements made by our rivals? Of course.

But...

Am I ready to give up on the Caps now...before the season has even started? No.

Am I ready to start engaging in the absolutist fallacy favored by some posters ("The Caps will NEVER win the Cup unless they do XYZ")? #311 NO!

Am I ready throw GMGM and/or BB under the bus...not just yet.

Let's wait and see...

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 1, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

If Jokinen re-signs with the Flames, I'm going to laugh my ass off.

-Trade a 1st rounder, Lombardi and Prust for Jokinen.
-Sucks in Calgary, but Sutter still re-signs him.
-Continues to suck..Sutter trades him and Prust for Higgens and Kotalik!
-Sutter buys out Kotalik, instead of not trading for him and letting Jokinen hit free agency. (Thus, preventing a buyout)

Sure, let's re-sign him and do it all again!

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

jokinen back with flames

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

according to some here, every nhl player is dying to play with the Caps. So we can use that as "leverage" or something :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse
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Cstanton - you know the funny thing about it is, you said nobody has ever taken less money to play here. You were proven wrong with 2 recent signings in Knuble and BMo so just like a little girl you go and blow it all out of proportion. Nobody ever said "every" NHL player would take less money to come here. Another thing did you watch the press conf when Backstrom signed? The very 1st question lobbed at him was "Was the fact of you being able to play with Alex for the next 10yrs the reason for the home town discount". He first declined to answer the question but when it was asked again in a different format he said that playing with OV for 10yrs was a factor.

The fact of the matter is there are a lot of players in this league where the Caps would be on the "short list" to play for. It never used to be that way so it's very new for us but it's true now.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

We will NEVER know what happens during negotiations.
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except, some teams have no issues being active, and some teams seem to have a rough go of it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

We haven't acquired a young physical forward via trade in as far as I can remember.

Dale Hunter.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

PokerFace: you said nobody has ever taken less money to play here
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lol, i never said that. In fact I said BMo claimed he did just that. But then I said, who cares since BMo wasn't exactly an attractive free agent in the market fending off offers.

so go take your pompoms and wave em somewhere else. Cheerleaders apparently can't think for themselves.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow so Whitney goes to Phoenix! I guess they can pull some talent in. I'm not coming from the perspective that we needed him or we lost in this case. I'm just glad to see them be able to pull some talent in to maybe build on the great season they had vs. just tankin it now.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 1, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Quote from Scott Burnside:

"Ah, it wouldn't be free agency if the Rangers didn't inexplicably blow their brains out and so we give you Derek Boogaard and his four-year deal worth $1.65 million annually. Ha, ha, ha. Worst contract of the day by a country mile. And the day's only half over. Take a bow Glen Sather, your reputation remains in tact. "

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

in the realm of the dumbest signings I have and probably will ever see....calgary resigning jokinen?

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

We haven't acquired a young physical forward via trade in as far as I can remember.

Dale Hunter.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse


Chris Simon :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

when did scott burnside turn into a hockey guru anyway? Stan Fischler the next one on the list to go read up on ?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

so rumor has it we are talking to mark eaton...I don't like that call

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

in the realm of the dumbest signings I have and probably will ever see....calgary resigning jokinen?

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 3:48 PM |

I really don't know what to say. Sutter has lost it.

Now trade us Gio and Regehr!

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Ovie - Backs - Knuble
Gartner - Ridley - Miller
Druce - Hunter - Ciccarelli

Langway - Stevens
Hatcher - Johansson
Green - Hamhuis

Kolzig (1998 Kolzig)
Neuwirth

Get it done, GMGM!

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | July 1, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

so rumor has it we are talking to mark eaton...I don't like that call

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 3:50 PM |

Depending on the price, I'd take him. Serviceable d-man, might be able to spot some top-4 minutes away from the kids if needed.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

eaton?? how underwhelming

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"except, some teams have no issues being active, and some teams seem to have a rough go of it."

True. But being active does not have to equal signings. Activity can be behind the scenes.

But like "it wouldn't be free agency if the Rangers didn't inexplicably blow their brains out", it may also be true that it wouldn't be free agency if the Caps didn't stay quiet.


Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

the devs signed tallinder

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Tallinder to NJ. 3.375 /yr.

I'm not a Tallinder fan, but I know some of you were gunning for him.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

tallinder signs with nj 4 years x $3.375

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

what a depressing day

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

fosters to edm 2yr 1.8m

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Foster to the Oilers..lol.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

WTF!?!?!?!

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Rangers offer Boogaard for Jokinen

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

@underpants2 True, there is the 10% off season exception, however it expires once the regular season starts.

Funny how you missed the part about Alzner and Bourque at the start of last season. Why should GMGM put himself into that bind again?

@tominsocal1 Since you come to the same conclusion that TEB and GMGM did, your point is exactly???

And let's not forget the #1 rule of all UFA's, they're rejects from other teams.

All of us Washingtonians have seen just how well a very FA strategeery has worked for the Redskins.

Posted by: CapsNut | July 1, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Tallinder just signed in New Jersey for 4 years and $13.5M.

Volchenkov, Hamuis and Mitchell are slowly running out of places to sign.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Henrik Tallinder signs in NJ. 4 years x $3.375

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Henrik Tallinder signs in NJ. 4 years x $3.375

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

@richmondPhil

We should hoist one in his honor!

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Eaton's awful. He's like Corvo.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

so rumor has it we are talking to mark eaton...I don't like that call

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

actually, with the right term (short) and cap hit, this is not a bad pickup. defensive dman w/ stanley cup experience. something the team is lacking...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 1, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Tallinder is not the droid you are looking for...

Foster is not the droid you are looking for either...

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 1, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

cstanton: that explains the Caps' interest

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

@underpants2 True, there is the 10% off season exception, however it expires once the regular season starts.

Funny how you missed the part about Alzner and Bourque at the start of last season. Why should GMGM put himself into that bind again?

@tominsocal1 Since you come to the same conclusion that TEB and GMGM did, your point is exactly???

And let's not forget the #1 rule of all UFA's, they're rejects from other teams.

All of us Washingtonians have seen just how well a very FA strategeery has worked for the Redskins.

Posted by: CapsNut

I am not gonna argue with you. You are a homer, and have no clue what you are talking about.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Hamhuis will sign in VAN shortly...watch.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

1. as long as a player produces on the ice, overpaying ain't the worst thing a GM can do. everyone overpays in FA but doesn't mean you can stay out of it and expect to compete because you don't wanna overpay.

2. after the current TV contract expires at the end of 2010-2011, the TV money will probably go up significantly jugging by the increase in the ratings so they can afford to overpay a bit.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

According to NHLnumbers, Pittsburgh is currently spending $55.9 mil for next season and needs at least one forward and one D-man, plus probably an extra of each. So, they need 4 players and can spend just under $1 mil average for them. Unless they make a trade, their cap situation is looking pretty tight.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 1, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

CapsNut: Point is they don't have to bring back all the RFAs. There's $13M and six slots. Most here favor trading Flash for instance and using that cap space for someone else.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Eaton's awful. He's like Corvo.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:03 PM |

No effin way do their playing styles even somewhat match up.

Eaton should be a 3rd or 4th option at best, but he still would help bring some experience and composure to our back end.

I'd take Eaton over Poti.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Hamhuis to the Canucks.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Canucks sign Hamhuis

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

DoubleAlex: Yes, they have $3.5M for four slots. That's what I found. So they are pretty much done with the fancy signings.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse


Hamhuis to Vancouver is done for $4.5M per year.

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

And then there was A-train.....

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

SJ will probably get Volchenkov now.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

so mitchell or V-train

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Volchenkov 6 year deal w/NJ

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Volchenkov's 6 year deal in NJ

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Morrisonn is better than Eaton.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

volchenkov to devs

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

If a Babchuk could chuck wood,
how much wood would a Babchuk chuck?

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | July 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

STL signs Steen to 4-year ext

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Volchenkov to Devils

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Devils, Penguins, Flyers ... all better than the Caps. George McPhee, you are an utter disgrace! It's a joke that we have to watch you lead this organization.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

much of the east has improved today, the Caps stand pat.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

A Babchuk could chuck all the wood he could chuck, if a Babchuk could chuck wood.

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Damn...there goes my dream for the last 2 years....

Posted by: richmondphil | July 1, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

A-Train to NJ, Kovy to NJ next, both players have same agent...I am not really surprised that the Caps have done very little..GMGM pretty much told us he wouldn't make many moves. However team in the East are doing a great job to neutralize the Caps offense..

Still a few more guys who the Caps could pick up to make the team better... Not worried at all...

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

A-Train to NJ, Kovy to NJ next, both players have same agent...I am not really surprised that the Caps have done very little..GMGM pretty much told us he wouldn't make many moves. However team in the East are doing a great job to neutralize the Caps offense..

Still a few more guys who the Caps could pick up to make the team better... Not worried at all...

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

looks like A train not stopping at Union station. Last year before we get a new GM

Posted by: samb99 | July 1, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Devils, Penguins, Flyers ... all better than the Caps. George McPhee, you are an utter disgrace! It's a joke that we have to watch you lead this organization.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

In what way does grossly overpaying for defenseman make you better then the capitals? We have a hell of a team as it is, just calm down. We suffered through years of the rebuild why screw ourselves now?

Posted by: dcfury | July 1, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

mason to atl

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

In what way does grossly overpaying for defenseman make you better then the capitals? We have a hell of a team as it is, just calm down. We suffered through years of the rebuild why screw ourselves now?

Posted by: dcfury

Is this a joke?

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

In what way does grossly overpaying for defenseman make you better then the capitals? We have a hell of a team as it is, just calm down. We suffered through years of the rebuild why screw ourselves now?

Posted by: dcfury

Is this a joke?

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

GMGM..if you were my friend on facebook I would remove you. Seriously dude, something today. At this point I'd be ok if the Caps signed a new stickboy. My expectations for today were so high and now I think most of us are severally disappointed.

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

What do you all expect from GMGM, most of the players who have signed we could not afford... Wait until March 2011 when the trade deadline his hear, that way be can figure out what we need... Again I think GMGM is doing what he can with the cap space we have...

Posted by: CapsBaby | July 1, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

mason gets $1.6 M next year and $2.1 M in 2011-12

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

No underpants2, you're the joke.

So want another Nylanderesque contract?

Posted by: CapsNut | July 1, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Once again the Caps will ice the biggest bunch of p**sies in the league. I guess McPhee would rather invest in needles and thread to stich up his players than protect them.

Way to sit with your thumb up your butt George! Your legacy will be your farm club winning cups while your NHL team gets bullied and chokes in April...

Posted by: FLDave | July 1, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

dcfury:

teams paid what the market demanded. if you want to call that "grossly overpaying" based on your analysis, go ahead. i am sure the teams that signed don't think they overpaid.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Mason to Atlanta is really not good for us. Don't look forward to seeing him as often as we play Atlanta.

Posted by: vafan3 | July 1, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Volchenkov cap hit is 4.25M--6 yrs 25.5

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Funny how you missed the part about Alzner and Bourque at the start of last season. Why should GMGM put himself into that bind again?

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:07 PM

@underpants2:

FWIW, the stuation is very different now than it was then.

--Jurcina and Clark were still on the roster with what some have said were over-valued contracts.
--The wretched Nylander saga was still far from being resolved.
--BMo had just been signed.
--We still had Pothier's contract on the books.
--We were entering the second half of Theo's $4.5M/yr. deal.

With the additional cap room that the resolution of the above issues brings, I see no financial reason why we could not keep both Bourque and Alzner.

I'm not saying it's a good move or a bad move...just that there is more room for it now than there was at this time last year.

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 1, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

ugh...great opportunity lost by the caps

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I can only hope this is GMGM last year with the CAPS. The rebuild is over which many of us hung around during its time to take this club to the next level. I understand about the cap and did not want to sign a d for 5+m but we do need some improvement

Posted by: callejo1 | July 1, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

GMGM reminds of of Pat Gillick when he was the GM of the Blue Jays before they won their back to back championships in the early '90's. They didn't call him Stand Pat for nothing.

Then he finally pulled the trigger on the deal that brought Robbie Alomar and Joe Carter to Toronto which help them win those championships.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

6 years for A-Train? Yeah, that's risky. He'll be 34 by the end of that, and he already misses a lot of time. With his style, who knows whether he'll be any good in 2-3 years? I'm guessing that's somewhere in the $32-34 mil range, too.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 1, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes in order to win the Cup or get close (see Flyers and Blackhawks) you have to take risks and this organization just doesn't seem to grasp that concept! Yes the defenseman signed today may have been overpaid, but atleast they were signed by teams that are trying to make an effort to win the Cup! Ted and George are always talking about being good for a long time, but being good for a long time doesn't mean that you will ever win the Cup. Take a risk for once!

Posted by: rockinthered1 | July 1, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

teams paid what the market demanded. if you want to call that "grossly overpaying" based on your analysis, go ahead. i am sure the teams that signed don't think they overpaid.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Yes so if they market demands too much it takes moderate intelligence to be able to walk away. Teams like the Rangers who "pay what the market demands" get screwed plain and simple.

Posted by: dcfury | July 1, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

capsbaby:

i think most people know where the Caps are lacking: 2nd line center & the blueline. no news there

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Good. Maybe some of the new bandwagon STH's will leave now and I can upgrade to better seats!

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

defensive dman w/ stanley cup experience. something the team is lacking...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 1, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

ROFLMAO! Mark Eaton is a "Defensive Dman"??

in whose universe?

I guess that makes Erskine an offensive dman.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

No underpants2, you're the joke.

So want another Nylanderesque contract?

Posted by: CapsNut
CapsNut, get your head out of McPhee's a$$. Can you really not see all the teams we are fighting with to win the east are getting better? Much better. The conference is passing us by.

Get a clue. You can sign guys for long term, and use the salary cap as a tool to do so.

I would rather be a joke than a brainless homer.

You know nothing.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

thrashers trading for Ladd

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Volchekov got a full NTC. WOnder if that snagged things for other teams?

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

ladd to atl too

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

and the Thrashers get Andrew Ladd...

Posted by: ThePat | July 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Andrew Ladd traded to Thrashers..."your killing me Smalls."

Posted by: jake81 | July 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Morrisonn is better than Eaton.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

by a gajillion miles and then some

Mark Eaton was a hack when he played for the Preds. He was an offensive dman who couldn't generate much offense. He can't hit, he can't clear the crease but suddenly he's a defensive dman because he failed at the offensive end of things? good lord.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Good. Maybe some of the new bandwagon STH's will leave now and I can upgrade to better seats!

Posted by: jdhoover


yeah man i love when no one else watches the caps play...that really makes the free agents want to come here

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Andrew Ladd to ATL - SE opponents getting better.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | July 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

$4.25m per year for Volchenkov. Way to go George!

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

ladd to atl too

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse


can i say it now? Mcphee sucks. Thank you.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Atlanta is shaping up to be a legit threat this coming season.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Huh, I gotta say I agree with being prudent and all, but Volchankov for 4.25 when we have 4.5 mill in hand and a million plus to be had by letting a guy like Erskin, who would be completely expendable by a volchankov deal, ride the pine in Hershey seems like it would have been the right deal. We'll just have to wait and see if McPhee has anything up his sleeve I guess....

Posted by: dcfury | July 1, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

@jake81

You said your expectations were high today. Why? The Caps said they weren't going to make any big moves.

I'm not flaming, I'm serious. There are many people here today who are mad that they didn't do anything, even though they said they wouldn't do much, if at all. I don't understand the misplaced expectations.

Posted by: EricinReston | July 1, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

$4.25m per year for Volchenkov. Way to go George!

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

george prolly offered him 3.5 and a chance to cover Greenie's butt on every shift

looks like the caps will go running back to ShaMo and beg his forgiveness.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Good. Maybe some of the new bandwagon STH's will leave now and I can upgrade to better seats!

Posted by: jdhoover


yeah man i love when no one else watches the caps play...that really makes the free agents want to come here

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse


yeah, but it makes it easier in the beer lines and lines for the pisser

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Apparently as opposed to now?

Sarcasm. Humour instead of tears.

Something.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

nabby may be headed 4 khl, thoughts

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

So the available players left who seem like they could be possible Caps are Lombardi, John Madden, and Mitchell. Unless I missed a signing somewhere.

Does anybody know how long Volchenkov signed for?

The biggest problems with a lot of these free agent contracts is the length of them. Giving Volchenkov, a guy with his style of play, a 6 year contract is dangerous. Not saying right or wrong, but it is a risk.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

No Volchenkov AND no Hamhuis?

Now I am getting upset.

FWIW, I don't think $4.25M X 6 is overpaying for the kind of D-man we need.

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 1, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

@jdhoover

fair enough

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody know how long Volchenkov signed for?

The biggest problems with a lot of these free agent contracts is the length of them. Giving Volchenkov, a guy with his style of play, a 6 year contract is dangerous. Not saying right or wrong, but it is a risk.

Posted by: sgm3

$4.25m per. But don't worry, we tendered Boyd Gordon.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

defensive dman w/ stanley cup experience. something the team is lacking...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 1, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

ROFLMAO! Mark Eaton is a "Defensive Dman"??

in whose universe?

I guess that makes Erskine an offensive dman.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

well, his 23 goals in over 500 NHL games suggests he's not a an offensive defensman now does it.

i know its tough for a hockey genius like you to mingle with us mere idiots, but try and tone it down a bit. there are others here who know a thing or two about the game.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 1, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I will Still go to every game I can.
I will Still paint my head red.
I will still stand in long lines at the "pisser".
I will still Chant "lets Go Caps".


I can handle GMGM. I can handle Ovie Suspensions. I can handle soft D-men.

But if I see ONE DAMN VUVUZELA show up I will lose it completely!

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

even better, the Caps tendered Flash AND Chris Bourque. i can't wait to see how much they overpay Flash.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

If Volchenkov would've signed with the Caps for the same price he signed with the Devils then GMGM made a mistake not signing him. That is a good value for him.

We are assuming Volchenkov wanted to sign in DC, we do not know if that was true or not.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Good. Maybe some of the new bandwagon STH's will leave now and I can upgrade to better seats!

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:35 PM

lol...maybe now I will be able to afford seats in the first place...:p

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 1, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse


Atlanta just became the newest fun team to watch in the SE. Bfuglien, Eager, Ladd, Kane. They should reinvent the old patrick division and let Atlanta play there instead of the Caps. Seems like a LOT of teams are trying to add muscle to their lineup. Devils get more physical on the back end. Toronto and Atl continue their rebuild with big aggressive players. Rags and Flyers of course.

And the Pens get better and younger on the back end. I'm not a fan of the Hamhuis contract though.

Is Mitchell still around?

and did ATl just offer a pick and a prospect for Ladd? that sounds reasonable. Did McPhee think Chi would trade Ladd for a bag of pucks?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Great job GMGM ATL gets Ladd for a prospect and pick. And they sign Mason.

Gonna be a tough division everyone has done something but us.

Posted by: digster1013 | July 1, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3

Ever notice that the Caps never show up on the list of teams free agents put out that they would waive their NTCs for?

Makes you wonder.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't why people are freaking out about not signing one of the expensive defensemen. If I have to spend $4 mil, I would rather get a legit second line center to play with Semin than anything else. I have no problem with how GMGM is showing restraint on the big names.

Posted by: Moose33 | July 1, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

sgm3:

i assume that if you meet a players number, they want to sign.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

re: Volchenkov. The $4.25M salary is very appealling, the six years is a little long, but the NMC is scary.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The biggest problems with a lot of these free agent contracts is the length of them. Giving Volchenkov, a guy with his style of play, a 6 year contract is dangerous. Not saying right or wrong, but it is a risk.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I think it's safe to say that Lou Lamoriello has proven over the years that he know's what he's doing... they didn't just put him in the HOF for nothing.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Why are people even mentioning the tenders? They are not that important. Teams do that so they can either get value in return or at least they have a negotiating strength by not making that plyaer into a UFA. Tendering those players did nothin to stop the Caps from signing people. Teams are allowed to go over the Cap by 10% in the offseason and the Caps could withdraw the tenders at any time.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Thrashers have made some good moves, good for them. They have more cup experience than we do.

Now that Jokinen is back in Calgary, Regehr has to be on the way out. Hopefully McDumbass will make something happen.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

``He just brings a different dimension,” Devils GM Lou Lamoriello told ESPN.com. ```We had Scott Stevens for years and we know what’sthat like and we like Volchenkov’s size an strength. We played enough against him over the years to know what he does.”

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Gonna be a tough division everyone has done something but us.

Posted by: digster1013

The Caps are still going to cut through the division lot a knife through hot butter.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 1, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

@rhino40 - I'm only a partial.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

well, his 23 goals in over 500 NHL games suggests he's not a an offensive defensman now does it.
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heyDCSPortsTard -- just because a guy can't provide offense at the NHL level doesn't automatically make him a defensive defenseman. Mark Eaton's profile when he came out of Notre Dame had him tagged as an "offensive dman". Do you remember that? Prolly not. The Flyers needed him to provide offense for them and he couldn't come thru so they dumped him on the Predators who used him to replace an offensive dman on their team who had suffered an injury.

By your logic, a goal scorer who can't score goals is automatically a checker and a grinder.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

re: Volchenkov. The $4.25M salary is very appealling, the six years is a little long, but the NMC is scary.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Okay if Volchenkov got a NMC then never mind. No way is it a good idea to give that style of player 6 years and not even have the option of waiving him. that one may come back to bite the Devils pretty hard.

Posted by: dcfury | July 1, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

@digster

Yes, everyone in the division has done something but us, but IIRC we had a ~40 point lead in the standings last year. They have a ways to go......

Posted by: EricinReston | July 1, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

That's pretty much it for defencemen. Hamhius looks to be signing with Vancouver. Still time to get a 2nd line centre (Lombardi).

Posted by: Stu_c | July 1, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Or a hot knife through butter. I can't remember hot it goes. But you get my drift.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 1, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Moose33:

there were 2nd line centers available TODAY!! the point is, the Caps didn't do ANYTHING! but as others have pointed out (like I did 2 weeks ago), the Caps basically said they weren't making any moves. Ted & GMGM really believe they have everyting they need. by the way, just because you think teams overpaid doesn't make that the case. as i pointed out earlier, teams paid what the market dictated.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

for Richphil:

Larry Brooks just tweeted that Ryan Callahan isn’t being traded by the Rangers.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I'd just like to point out that the Thrashers new GM, Dale Tallon familiar to anyone, just helped the Blackhawks win their first cup in over 30 years and now he's TAKING RISKS with all of the moves he's made this offseason.

Granted, he's got more money to play around with as the Kovy contract is long gone. But C'mon GMGM, get with it.

Posted by: jwash4472 | July 1, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

``He just brings a different dimension,” Devils GM Lou Lamoriello told ESPN.com. ```We had Scott Stevens for years and we know what’sthat like and we like Volchenkov’s size an strength. We played enough against him over the years to know what he does.”

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse


we only imitate certain teams and GMs when its convenient. For all of McPhee's ramblings about how he respected Lou L so much blah blah blah, the only component he's really taken from Lou is to try and build the team via the draft (like that's some highly original idea). In every other way, McPhee is diametrically opposite to Lou right down to the offense v defense philosophy.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

After the Jagr and Nylander nightmares, it's pretty clear gmgm is never going to sign anybody he didn't draft to crazy long-term deals like Volchenkov's.

What I don't understand is the Devils scored 0, 1, 2, 5 and 1 goals against Philly in the playoffs. So they spend $24+M for a shot-blocking defenseman who's essentially useless in the offense department? I guess they think A-train's going to somehow cancel out Chris Pronger next year. :D

Posted by: blackjack65 | July 1, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I thought Tallon went to Fla? Am I having a brainfart or is jwash?

Posted by: Steve_R | July 1, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

How do you think Flames fans feel so far today with Sutter brining back re-treads in Tanguay and Jokinen? It's like a hockey version of the Blues Brothers, "We're gettin' the band back together!" sheesh

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3

Ever notice that the Caps never show up on the list of teams free agents put out that they would waive their NTCs for?
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yeah, but apparently according to PokerFace, this is one of the more attractive places to come to. Yeah, if you're an offensive dman who knows he'll strike it rich in this system without having to play any defense.


Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

how did hamuis get more money than V-train for the same years?

Posted by: _stevo | July 1, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Come on McDumbass, sign Lombardi.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

@jwash

Remember, Chicago fired Tallon when they realized he had no idea how the salary cap worked. See how Chicago is unloading their team right now? Watch for Atlanta to do that in a year or two.

Posted by: EricinReston | July 1, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

McPhee's strategy is simple and smart. First let people overpay for what's out there and then there's a squeeze and some people have to unload salary. That puts the bargaining power on his side. Not to mention that it's smart to let the dust settle now, play most of the season and then see who's left standing. That's when you know exactly what you need for the POs and bargains are available. Better a rental Dman in March than spending a ton and getting hooked into a longer term deal now.

Posted by: bundy44 | July 1, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

TSN reported Hamhuis turned down bigger offers to sign in Vancouver

Posted by: pebowers | July 1, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

TSN reports that Hamhuis was offered more money from other teams, but decided to take less to play in Vancouver

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Tallon did go to Fl after having a falling out with Chi. But he had a big part in putting together that Chi team as well. Which is why the Hawks being the classy org they finally turned into, is sending Tallon a Stanley Cup ring.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

paying what the market dictates is not always prudent. anyone out there that overpaid for a house a few years ago?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | July 1, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

TSN reported Hamhuis turned down bigger offers to sign in Vancouver

Posted by: pebowers | July 1, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

uh oh, that's gonna wreck Poker's world right there...

Got a new name for McPhee. The Dumpster Diver. Can't wait to see what scraps he unearths from the FA pile that's left.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

i am a little confused as to why there are donks here talking negatively about "long term" deals. didnt't the Caps just sign Backstrom to a 10 year deal?? is that bad?? how about Ovie's contract??

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

I don't know what you are standing by for. Go on vacation GMGM and ted aren't going to do a thing. I guess they consider Alzner the big rugged defenseman and Perrault the 2nd line center. See you in September Tarik!

Posted by: Gambrills4 | July 1, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

paying what the market dictates is not always prudent. anyone out there that overpaid for a house a few years ago?

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so when another team who overpaid slightly wins a Cup or has a long postseason run, do we just point at them and laugh and say their season didn't count because they bought their way into success? The Yankess overpaid a lot of folks, you think their fans feel bad about it?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

yeah, it is not Capt kirk, but that is the game we all play. who's to say all of the deals today will not pan out?? there is always hindsight, but as the old saying goes, "nothing risked, nothing gained."

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

George McPhee were a general, he'd be George McClellan

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

i am a little confused as to why there are donks here talking negatively about "long term" deals. didnt't the Caps just sign Backstrom to a 10 year deal?? is that bad?? how about Ovie's contract??

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:03 PM

Umm, Ovie is a generational player and Backstrom is quickly developing into one as well. Not sure any of the guys who got long term deals today are in the same class.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

@doughless

Backstrom is 21 and a cornerstone of the franchise. Ovie is the franchise and signed his when he was 21 or 22.

These free agents range from 27 to 35. A little different.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

IF I were the GM and inclined to go for a blockbuster deal, here's what I'd do, based on what's out there as of 5:00 PM EDT:

--Semin and B. Gordon and Giroux to CGY for Regehr and Iginla...

--Fleischmann + picks to VAN for Bieksa...

--Sign Lombardi and Mitchell from Free Agency. 4-year deal for Mombardi, 2 or 3 years for Mitchell.

Tom, how do the numbers look?

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 1, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I am a little confused as to why there are donks here talking negatively about "long term" deals. didnt't the Caps just sign Backstrom to a 10 year deal?? is that bad?? how about Ovie's contract??
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yah i'm confused too. Can someone explain? Why would giving a player in his prime a semi-long term contract be a bad thing?

I wonder how the Caps players feel knowing their GM doesn't do jack squat to bring in any outside help. They see other teams doing what it takes, being creative etc. And then the Caps squash all hopes every year heading into the offseason or any trading deadline by not being a major player for any big names (and i don't mean kovalchuk either).

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 1, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

re: Volchenkov. The $4.25M salary is very appealling, the six years is a little long, but the NMC is scary.
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To clarify, I've read that it's actually a NTC (No Trade Clause). They can't trade him but hypothetically they can always bury him in the minors if he starts sucking.

The NMC (No Move Clause) is the scary one. That's what Nylander had. That means you can't send him to the AHL unless he agrees to it.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | July 1, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

So there was basically a three way trade;

Pens got Martin;
Devils got Volchenkov;
Senators got Gonchar;

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

la kings are going to announce some big news about a poss big trade

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

why is a 5 or 6 year deal for some of the best defensemen available in the nhl a bad deal?? many of the guys available today are coming into their prime.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

leopold to Buf.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Pitsburgh has picked up talks with Billy Guerin along with one other contending Eastern Conference club. Could sign tonight "
-Andy Strickland

Hmmmm....

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Vinny Prospal to Rangers

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I figure the Kings and Canucks trade - LA
gets a DMan and I dont know what goes to Van.

Posted by: jdhoover | July 1, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

that's hilarious that Dregger is calling Eklund a "Chicken" for not citing a source...

http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

some of you defeatists should really give up on the caps. i don't see ted and gmgm straying from their plan anytime soon.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | July 1, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3: Pens also signed Michalek.

Posted by: Dalliquippa | July 1, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

la kings are going to announce some big news about a poss big trade

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 5:11 PM

Maybe they'll do a deal with the Flyers. There's a connection there with Hextall/John Stevens being ex-Flyers, and Philly def needs to move out some salary.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Ovie, Backs - offensive players

Volchenkov - a defensive player

this team is NEVER gonna commit to a defense first player like him long term... it's not about the age, it's just not what they believe in

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

that's hilarious that Dregger is calling Eklund a "Chicken" for not citing a source...

http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

TarikElBashir: I'm told there's a good chance the Caps remain quiet on Day 1. GMGM and Co. still working phones, tho.


There ya go...

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

It's a fine line between prudent and stupid, but I think GMGM has crossed it this year.

More like tripped and fell over it.

Posted by: jwash4472 | July 1, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Tarik just just sent one of the most ridiculous tweets of the day. tell us something we don't know, Tarik!!!

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Rhino: Think you have spent way too much there with Iginla.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

some of you defeatists should really give up on the caps. i don't see ted and gmgm straying from their plan anytime soon.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | July 1, 2010 5:20 PM

Some of us have been fans for dozens of years. Some of us had high hopes when a new owner came in promising a Stanley Cup. Some of us are simply baffled that over the last several years McPhee has passed on UFA's that could have helped the team. He has passed on trades that could have helped the team. If Leonsis is serious about delivering on his promise he'd better put McPhee on notice.

BTW... I coined McPhee as a 'dumpster diver' YEARS ago. More so for his deadline deals picking up has beens. Brian Bellows ring a bell to anyone?

Posted by: FLDave | July 1, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I kinda feel like it's almost time to go to bed on Christmas night and I still haven't been given any presents.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

This is the same bunch of knuckleheads that screamed the sky was falling when Chicago "stole" Huet from us... how'd that work out? Amazing how all these hockey savants have managed to avoid employment in the hockey business. Or in the case of more than a few have avoided employment all together.

GMGM and Ted know very well what they're doing.

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka -- "Lighten up Francis"

Posted by: Dave_in_Alexandria | July 1, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Brian Bellows is actually a bad example for you to use. I seem to recall he did well for the Caps.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 1, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Though not the bruiser some here would prefer, Kaberle is still available if GMGM can swing a deal with Burkie. His $4.25 mil salary is in the ballpark of the guys who signed as UFAs, but this is the last year of the deal, so no long term commitment.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Leonsis is on the news today saying "building with NO FAs" in the NBA... now there you have it

good luck winning with that philosophy in the NBA.. the Caps and the Wiz won't be having a parade in DC anytime soon

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Brian Bellows is actually a bad example for you to use. I seem to recall he did well for the Caps.

Posted by: tominsocal1

Even when he shot/kicked a puck into his own net in the playoffs?

Posted by: FLDave | July 1, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"GMGM and Ted know very well what they're doing."

2009-2010 - lose 1st round playoffs (1st seed, Prez Trophy winner lose to 8th seed)
2008-2009 - lose 2nd round playoffs
2007-2008 - lose 1st round playoffs

come to think of it Dave, they very well know what they are doing.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

George McPhee were a general, he'd be George McClellan

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 5:08 PM
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bahahahahahaaa. nice Civil War buff inside joke. I actually get it.

so, are we heading to our Antietam? another stalemate season where we don't beat our arch-rivals?

no upgrades while the conference passes us by.....I don't like it.

Posted by: drewsie | July 1, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry everyone. I was having a brainfart. Tallon is in Florida.

But what about what the Thrash is doing this offseason?

Posted by: jwash4472 | July 1, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

saku just signed in anahiem 2.5 million/year for 2 years

caps should have signed him...

Posted by: gocaps01 | July 1, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Goodbye Koivu - Anaheim.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | July 1, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

2009-2010 - lose 1st round playoffs (1st seed, Prez Trophy winner lose to 8th seed)
2008-2009 - lose 2nd round playoffs
2007-2008 - lose 1st round playoffs

come to think of it Dave, they very well know what they are doing.

Posted by: doughless | July 1, 2010 5:40 PM

Actually, they do. Seeing how mid-2007 they were last in their division, and have won the last 3 division titles.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

There is still Mitchell and Kubina out there. I've never been the biggest Kubina fan but he is tall and weighs about 250lbs. for those out there who like big defenseman.

I don't really like Sutton either but he's still out there too.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Goodbye Koivu - Anaheim.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | July 1, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

no upgrades while the conference passes us by.....I don't like it.

Posted by: drewsie | July 1, 2010 5:45 PM

Conference isn't passing us by.... they're trying to catch up. Caps are still going to be the team to beat.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Koivu wanted to leave Anaheim.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it odd that Kovalchuk hasn't been signed? He was touted as the biggest name in FA and yet, 6 hours later, not... a... peep!

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

If the Caps could have acquired Volchenkov for the same price the Devils gave then I will be disappointed that GMGM didn't step up and make that move. Even though it was 6 years, IMO, that was a risk worth taking.

I think Gonchar and Martin were overpaid a decent amount.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 1, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Conference isn't passing us by.... they're trying to catch up. Caps are still going to be the team to beat.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Yes, another Prez trophy followed by an early April exit... who cares about Lord Stanley's Cup when you can win the Prez trophy, right??

a team to beat? seriously, are you on drugs??

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Rangers are going pure goon. They signed Boogard and their first round draft pick was the top fighter in this year's draft.

Posted by: zmega | July 1, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I swear i love the caps,BUT I sooooo DO NOT like GMGM.Here it is 6 o'clock and all the guys that the caps could have got are all gone and still not even one move done by the caps.If you want to be a stanley cup contender you ot to get the pieces to make it work and i dont care what gmgm says,with what we got now is not whats gonna get us a cup.you need winners to win and gmgm has proven hes not a winner.now watch the pens or any other team that did make good moves go and win the cup.I dont know what its gonna take to get gmgm to open his eyes and see the caps dont have a cup team,i mean losing in the first round wasnt enough,this team can make me so mad sometimes.Why does it have to be so hard to be a caps fan???!!! GO CAPS (w/o gmgm)!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | July 1, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Twitter
tpanotch:
Judging from forums, not a happy Flyer fan base rigth now

This guy should take a look over here.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 1, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Yes, another Prez trophy followed by an early April exit... who cares about Lord Stanley's Cup when you can win the Prez trophy, right??

a team to beat? seriously, are you on drugs??

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:00 PM

joke, it's called facts. I know you don't know much about them, so let me point a few out - the Caps have finished 1st and 2nd in the East the last 2 seasons, and there is no reason to think that will change.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Seeing how mid-2007 they were last in their division, and have won the last 3 division titles...

...they're trying to catch up

Posted by: timmyv38
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passing us by free agent-wise...

Question: Division titles = ?
Answer: Nothing

are they trying to catch up to our 16th ranked defense?

Posted by: drewsie | July 1, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I swear i love the caps,BUT I sooooo DO NOT like GMGM.Here it is 6 o'clock and all the guys that the caps could have got are all gone and still not even one move done by the caps.If you want to be a stanley cup contender you ot to get the pieces to make it work and i dont care what gmgm says,with what we got now is not whats gonna get us a cup.you need winners to win and gmgm has proven hes not a winner.now watch the pens or any other team that did make good moves go and win the cup.I dont know what its gonna take to get gmgm to open his eyes and see the caps dont have a cup team,i mean losing in the first round wasnt enough,this team can make me so mad sometimes.Why does it have to be so hard to be a caps fan???!!! GO CAPS (w/o gmgm)!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | July 1, 2010 6:04 PM |

The Caps only majorly need 1 piece, and that is 2nd line center. 2 possible candidates for that are gone - Koivu and Jokinen. The Caps could even be fine with the lineup they have, although I do think they will need a couple changes before the postseason. People here seem to be forgetting that players can be acquired during the season, so there's plenty of time to change up before the playoffs.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

saying we can win without FAs is like going to a gun fight with a sword...

maybe GMGM and Ted were in favor of nuclear freeze during the Cold War too...

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

hey timmyboy... nobody, I mean NOBODY outside your little world cares about the regular season.

by definition the team to beat in the EC is the FLYERS because guess what? they are the EC champions.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I kinda feel like it's almost time to go to bed on Christmas night and I still haven't been given any presents.

Posted by: tominsocal1 |


So tru,So so true! If the caps(gmgm) were santa,there would be ALOT of unhappy kids out there.And not just this time but most the time he is a scrooge! thats why you should never believe in santa (or gmgm)!

Posted by: gratefuldid | July 1, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

hey timmyboy... nobody, I mean NOBODY outside your little world cares about the regular season.

by definition the team to beat in the EC is the FLYERS because guess what? they are the EC champions.

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:13 PM

joke, let me clue you in: every player in the NHL cares about the regular season. If you do poorly in it, THERE'S NO POSTSEASON. It's how hockey works.

And Flyers are not the team to beat - they were fluke winners.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Nice work guys!

Way to watch the Pens load up!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | July 1, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Leonsis says on his blog that the Caps already signed their "free agent" by signing Backstrom. Now that is brilliant. It prevents the team from deteriorating but does nothing to fill a need and improve. Sometimes Phat Ted's stupid spin is incredibly annoying..............

Posted by: poguesmahone | July 1, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Nice work guys!

Way to watch the Pens load up!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | July 1, 2010 6:19 PM

lyle, one big difference - Pens needed more players, Caps didn't. Would have been nice to get Michalek, but not necessary.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Conference isn't passing us by.... they're trying to catch up. Caps are still going to be the team to beat.

Posted by: timmyv38

IF and this is debatable, the SE is catching up come playoff time all of that will be for not. Look at all the upgrades made by the North East. The same division that has been eating our lunch in the playoffs for years. You don't just plan for your division, you plan for the playoffs.

I am seriously considering passing on the NHL Center Ice Package for the 1st time since it was made available (15 yrs ago?). The Caps get pushed around and beaten up while winning in the regular season. Then choke like, well, I can't think of anything that chokes as bad, in the playoffs.

Sorry for all the negative vibes. I am just fed up with GMGM. This team needed toughness and it was readily available. I was certain GMGM would go after Boogard after watching his players get pounded like tough meat needing tenderizing. They had the cap space and did nothing. If I were Matt Bradley I would seriously consider retiring before Shelley, Boogard, ends his career and alters his health status.

I think ESPN does a post FA grading by teams. Is Washington going to get an F- or a not present?

Posted by: FLDave | July 1, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

And Flyers are not the team to beat - they were fluke winners.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

LMAO who says you're biased?? it's so flukey and easy to win in the playoffs but somehow the Caps can't get it done... they must be cursed

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Cullen to Wild.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | July 1, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

matt cullen 2 minny

Posted by: brittanyb_sm | July 1, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Just a question to the general en mass, freaking out people? did Free Agency end at 6PM EST today?

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

happy canada day

Posted by: wendel2 | July 1, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

FLDave, Boogaard got so ridiculously overpaid that I doubt anyone competed. $1.65M/yr for a goon who hasn't scored in 4 seasons? He has gone over 200 games without a goal. Getting a player who can fight is one thing - wasting that much money on a goon like Boogaard is another.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

lyle, one big difference - Pens needed more players, Caps didn't. Would have been nice to get Michalek, but not necessary.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse


right the team that won the Cup just last year and made the Finals two straight years isn't standing pat and is doing everything it can do improve so they can win another Cup.

but your PERFECT Caps that have NO room for improvement according to you are just standing pat... the goal of the regular season is to make the playoffs which EVERYONE knows is when the real season starts.

but this team and people like you have the idiotic notion that the regular season is the more important of the two.. no wonder you love this team so much

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it odd that Kovalchuk hasn't been signed? He was touted as the biggest name in FA and yet, 6 hours later, not... a... peep!

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 1, 2010 5:56 PM

Well, if he's still looking for $s in the range that Atlanta was rumored to offer him, then many of his suitors may have to make trades to move out salary. So, it's more than likely that teams are in the process of orchestrating trades to create the necessary cap space.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

LMAO who says you're biased?? it's so flukey and easy to win in the playoffs but somehow the Caps can't get it done... they must be cursed

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:25 PM

When you only have to play one of the top 4 seeds in your conference, it's a lot easier. Facts, joke... facts. They're not hard to find out.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Twitter
TSNBobMcKenzie:
Cullen got 3 years at $3.5M from Minny.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 1, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

right the team that won the Cup just last year and made the Finals two straight years isn't standing pat and is doing everything it can do improve so they can win another Cup.

but your PERFECT Caps that have NO room for improvement according to you are just standing pat... the goal of the regular season is to make the playoffs which EVERYONE knows is when the real season starts.

but this team and people like you have the idiotic notion that the regular season is the more important of the two.. no wonder you love this team so much

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:31 PM

joke, you should really try reading posts. First, I don't think the Caps can't improve - I said they don't need to get more players right now. In fact, I have suggested many ways they can improve. Second, the Pens needed to improve because they have lost a few of their players - I'm not shocked they went after defensemen, seeing how short they were there. Third, I have never said and do not believe the regular season is more important - but I'm not a moron like you who blows it off. I love the Caps because they are the team I have loved ever since I started watching hockey, and I have supported them through good times and bad. Maybe you should try supporting them for once.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

watch the caps finish in 9th next year...

Posted by: gocaps01 | July 1, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

When you only have to play one of the top 4 seeds in your conference, it's a lot easier. Facts, joke... facts. They're not hard to find out.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

you know you should really make up your mind and take one side of the argument intead of taking both sides.

one hand you say it's hard to win in the playoffs but you say the flyers winning 3 playoffs series in one year which the Caps haven't been able to do in more than a dozen years is a total fluke...

well which is it???

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

watch the caps finish in 9th next year...

Posted by: gocaps01 | July 1, 2010 6:40 PM

They'll be division winners again. The only teams in the East that have a shot at finishing ahead of them are the Pens and Devils - and I don't think the Devils will have what it takes.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

actually timmyboy, say no more... you make NO sense as it is, I don't need a headache

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

MaJo FOR 2C!!!!

THE AMERICAN HERO IS OUR TOP D!!!!

GO CAPS!


...dammit, cheer up people

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 1, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

you know you should really make up your mind and take one side of the argument intead of taking both sides.

one hand you say it's hard to win in the playoffs but you say the flyers winning 3 playoffs series in one year which the Caps haven't been able to do in more than a dozen years is a total fluke...

well which is it???

Posted by: joek443 | July 1, 2010 6:43 PM

You should try reading posts instead of twisting them, joke. The Flyers winning the East was a fluke due to what happened in earlier rounds. It's pretty funny watching you try to attack the Caps.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Quick question for all the doom sayers accusing the team of not doing anything today: have any of you been in contact with McPhee, or sat in the Caps trade "warroom" and listened into trade/UFA discussions, or received texts from agents/players/other GMs?

What's that you say? "No"? Ahh, ok, just wanted to make sure, 'cause it sure seems like a lotta assumptions are being thrown around about what the Caps intended to do vs. what we end up seeing as the final result when something comes across the wire on TSN. For every guy that got signed today, you can bet your bippie that many teams were in on it before player/agent/player's wife said yay or nay to the proposed deals.

Yeah, it'd be nice to have that new used car, er, player in the driveway (sorry, not used, it's "pre-owned" these days), so I share in the disappointment. But, it'd be very interesting to hear after the fact how close the Caps did/didn't come to getting any of the various pieces on everyone's wish list. I know, we live in a results oriented world, but without knowing the actual effort involved in McPhee's perceived failures today, it's very hard to make an unbiased judgement about today's happenings.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, was on the phone with Cullen, so haven't tweeted yet -- 3 years, $3.5 million per with modified no-trade


Teams are handing out no-trade clauses like candy. How does this guy warrant one?

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 1, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

MaJo FOR 2C!!!!

THE AMERICAN HERO IS OUR TOP D!!!!

GO CAPS!


...dammit, cheer up people

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 1, 2010 6:46 PM

I could see MaJo working as #2C. He should at least get a shot. After all, just a few years ago, people were saying Backstrom wasn't ready. Now, he's one of the top centers in the NHL.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

$4.25m for Volchenkov was reasonable. The Caps management flat out blew it. I am disgusted.

They collapse every April, and continue to learn nothing for it. Ted and GMGM are clearly in over their heads.

You would have thought after the 3-1 lead we blew in the series against Montreal, management would get serious.

I hope that hang that President's trophy banner right next to the Mystics attendence banners. B

Posted by: underpants2 | July 1, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

You can kiss Lombardi goodbye too, they are tweeting that his demands are "off the charts".

Like I said, if the money and/or length dont make sense, GMGM will prolly stand pat, playing the youngins and see how things go entering into the trade deadline.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 1, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

con't...

It's likely the Capitals would have liked to (or be required to) move some salary to attempt to pull off signing most of the guys who we wish they would have brought in. Of course, it takes two teams to tango, and who says anyone either a) wants anyone the Caps were willing to part with, or b) wants to assist the Caps by allowing them to free up space? While it seems the hierarchy is siting on their hands, who's to say they haven't been making attempts only to be spurned or find out they are unable to pull the trigger anyway as the cost of bringing guys in went higher? Do we know that they weren't among the suitors for Hamhuis? There were apparently a lot of teams still trying to snag him even after the deal was first reported as done. Same for anyone else who landed elsewhere.

This is the same scenario that many teams are going through now/went through in the past/will go through in the future. It's actually a blessing that McPhee has over $4 million to work with now as opposed to being up against the cap like the team has been of late. Maneuvering room is valuable in the event having to fill a roster spot due to a mid-season injury. Guess many here have forgotten the albatross of Nylander's contract already.

Certainly not an apologist for the regime, just poiting out that while it's easy to criticize lack of deals, unless you have been privy to the negotiations and attempts, then the anger is a little misplaced. Too many details are unknown and will likely never be known.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 1, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Volchenkov is very good, but does have serious weaknesses that tend to get overlooked. He quite often goes out of the position he should be in so he can block a shot. Without being paired with a solid dman (like Phillips or Redden), he wouldn't look nearly as good. The only dman the Caps would really have to pair with him would be Schultz. It would have been nice to get Volchenkov, but maybe some of you should consider what is the obvious truth - GMGM and BB have built a strong team from a consistent loser. They do, in fact, know what they are doing.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 1, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

new thread

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 1, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Will someone wake GMGM up? I think he's snoozing with his feet up on the desk..........

Posted by: poguesmahone | July 1, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I think Volchenkov would've solved a lot of problems. And I strongly disagree about who he could be paired with - I think playing with any one of Poti, Carlson, or maybe even Alzner [Orlov?!] he'd do great and you'd have a very solid d-pairing.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | July 1, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

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