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Posted at 3:32 PM ET, 03/ 2/2011

Nicklas Backstrom continues to play through thumb injury

By Greg Schimmel

It's been more than a week since Nicklas Backstrom fractured his thumb after getting slashed against the Penguins, and while the center hasn't missed any games, he hasn't looked 100 percent himself, either.

Asked after practice Wednesday about how the thumb has hindered him, the 23-year-old Swede didn't say much.

"It's alright, it's pretty good. I mean, I'm playing," Backstrom said. "The only thing I can't do is take faceoffs. Other than that, it's just the way it is."

Backstrom hasn't recorded a point in the three games since the injury, and his ice time was less than 18 minutes per game his last two times out.

Backstrom wore a netted splint on his thumb for practice Wednesday, but wouldn't say how much that is bothering him when he is on the ice.

"I don't want to say anything," Backstrom said. "I don't want to have any excuses."

Coach Bruce Boudreau said Backstrom hasn't complained since the injury.

"He's been dealing with it internally," Boudreau said. "He's just a tough kid. He doesn't say anything, he doesn't ask for pity, he doesn't ask for time off. He doesn't ask for anything. He just goes out and plays."

By Greg Schimmel  | March 2, 2011; 3:32 PM ET
Categories:  Injuries, Nicklas Backstrom  
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Comments

Backstrom is sexi.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | March 2, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

What Ted is confusing is that a "happy customer" doesn't equate to "highly knowledeable fan." In fact, one can argue rather that the two are mutually exclusive.

Posted by: tominsocal1 |

It follows that they are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | March 2, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

cut the thumb off and take draws with four fingers....come on Nicky...man up.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 2, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell him to quit taking penalties in the last 10 minutes of the game. A few weeks ago it was a dbl-minor vs PHX, down by 1 with 4:00 to play.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 2, 2011 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Your Girlfriend is wearing my hockey jersey.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | March 2, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Get off his back.

You know very well that if Semin had suffered the same injury he would have called it a season and left the team in the lurch for the playoffs.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | March 2, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Semin is out 3-4 weeks because of Backstrom's broken finger. He feels his pain.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 2, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

@ RoyHobbs4

Its earl yet he still has lots of time to do his usual vanishing act, injury or none

Posted by: bqts | March 2, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

On other teams, injured guys sit out until they are healed or the playoffs start. Orpik breaks a finger, he's out 2-4 weeks. It doesn't matter that the Pens lost half their lineup, Orpik sits. The Caps continue to play their guys so they can have a ready made excuse for another early round exit. Brilliant!

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Blogs are getting super deep today. Our 1st line center can't take draws with 22 back on the 1st line, now we have no one who can win a draw on that line.

Posted by: Bricucci1 | March 2, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Here's a perfect example.

I'll bet 80-90% of the "fans" in attendance Thursday night have no clue who Dmitri Orlov is.

Posted by: tominsocal1

But that is NHL player knowledge versus hockey knowledge. A lot of times on this blog hockey knowledge is largely ignored. For instance this thread is about Backstrom playing through his thumb injury and having issues with faceoffs. When it first happened there was a report that he said he could stick handle fine. From that comment I deduced it was his bottom hand and that when he turned that hand over to take faceoffs he could have issues. There was no response and I suspect that post was ignored. The next game comes and Backstrom plays, but can't take faceoffs. I'm not trying to knock people I'm just saying that's what hockey knowledge can do for you.

A long winded way of saying I think it's more important for people to know what an icing is than who Dmitri Orlov is.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | March 2, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

ablake,

You have proof that Orpik and Nick's injury are the same? Same digit, same break, same prognosis? I'd love to see that information.

Posted by: Steve_R | March 2, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

From a previous thread...(sorry just saw it)

Saltine182 ssid
@ robostop10

should have posted the entire thing, this part stood out the most,

"How well, or how poorly, the Capitals perform in the postseason will likely determine Boudreau's future with the organization - according to Tracee Hamilton of the Washington Post."

Please dont bring anything to the table that quotes freaking Tracee Hamilton. Not sure how she got her job at the Post, and you def. don't see her making posts on CI. Hoping you did that in jest.

Posted by: saltine182 | March 2, 2011 1:51 PM |

Well, since I don't pay for the crap on ESPN's rumor page I only had the one sentence. If your problem is Tracee Hamilton then fine, but take your condenscending tone elsewhere.

Posted by: robostop10 | March 2, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I might listen to a Tracee Hamilton quote if she was discussing Takeru Kobayashi vs Joey Chesnut battle. Im sure she could provide good insight on that match up.

=)

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | March 2, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

@Steve_R

He can't do his job. That's all that matters.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I might listen to a Tracee Hamilton quote if she was discussing Takeru Kobayashi vs Joey Chesnut battle. Im sure she could provide good insight on that match up.

=)

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce

That is funny. Cruel, but funny.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | March 2, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

It's not even funny. Look, Tracee's a columnist, not a beat writer. That means she's a generalist. Hockey may not be her particular area of expertise, but she writes well and does a good job of presenting Caps information to the many people who know little or nothing about hockey. As for her weight, well, that's got nothing to do with her writing.

Posted by: wocoliz | March 2, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

@dcsportsfan >

Please don't tell me, dear blog posters, that when you refer to "Goat's blood" you don't mean...

back to hockey: the team's suddenly pretty deep at D. Well, this is a good problem to have now and to honor the spirit of the smiling glass pitcher, will defer thinking about what it implies until after the playoffs end in mid April (or late June).

Posted by: RedLitYogi | March 2, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

For those who don't know, boo was kinda the peacemaker at times back in the day. We don't have one now, nobody would accept a job like that, although I've tried from time to time.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 2, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

And you do a great job, Tom, keep up the good work.

Posted by: vermontcaps | March 2, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

A long winded way of saying I think it's more important for people to know what an icing is than who Dmitri Orlov is.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | March 2, 2011 4:16 PM

Ah, BetterOff, but here's the point. If as a fan you don't know who Orlov is, and what his potential is, and you don't know what players other teams have, and what Orlov might have brought in trade, how can you really "vote" with knowledge as to whether or not the Caps' deadline deals were "good" or "bad?"

I'm not criticizing the fans at all. Not if they don't know who Orlov is, and not if they don't stay up till 1:00 am tonight to catch the SO in the last West Coast game.

What I criticized was Ted Leonisis' use of the WaPo poll as though it meant ANYTHING AT ALL (of relevance), and then his criticism of the flavor of the CI posts as though those people were just the "angry mob" and should therefore be ignored.

Ted got it all backwards. No different than King George III in 1776.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 2, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to be longwinded, but let me summarize Ted's logic trail.

1) He gets lots of emails, mostly negative and many very negative.
2) He reads lots of CI posts, mostly negative and some very negative.
3) The WaPo poll on do you support the trades was "very highly supportive."
4) Therefore in conclusion he can ignore anything he readsd or receives that is negative.

Are those the actions of the "wise ruler?"

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 2, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

wocoliz:
Thanks for the welcome back!

griz0615:
"I can't tell if the commenters on this blog are happier when the Caps win or happier when they lose." No doubt - lol!

tominsocal1:
I know who Orlov is - ha!

The negativity really is amusing. Cracks me up that this place was more positive when then Caps were, uh, less than optimal. But then again, there were fewer people here and they were all die-hards. I think those fans are more forgiving and patient than newer fans (who only know the glory days) and bandwagoners (who only stick around for the glory days). It's like the booing at the VC - never happened when the Caps were not the hottest ticket in town. Oh the price of fame ...

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 2, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

@wocoliz

I dont like her writing, she has no sports expertise that I can tell, so let her go generalize a column for another section of the paper.

P.S. I still think it was funny.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | March 2, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

SAOTI, fair enough.

Posted by: wocoliz | March 2, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

If Kittypawz could be persuaded to come back to CI we would have a pretty good line with Boo, Capscoach and Kittypawz. Two veterans and a rookie.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | March 2, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo poll and anything written on these message boards don't mean anything at all. It's some of the posters though, who act like this is their version of second life, where they're the gatekeeper to all things hockey. Glad Mr. Leonsis put it in perspective, the loudest critics are a small minority. Why listen to that small minority? Because they believe they have all the answers and he doesn't? I don't think he ignores that small minority. I think he just gives their opinions less weight than the majority of people who don't see a need to post line after line of negativity on these boards, who are happy, who are more logical and willing to let him and his team handle the business and the sport side of things.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | March 2, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to be longwinded, but let me summarize Ted's logic trail.

1) He gets lots of emails, mostly negative and many very negative.
2) He reads lots of CI posts, mostly negative and some very negative.
3) The WaPo poll on do you support the trades was "very highly supportive."
4) Therefore in conclusion he can ignore anything he reads or receives that is negative.

Are those the actions of the "wise ruler?"

Posted by: tominsocal1

No, but as long as there is a waiting list for season tickets, he has no reason to listen.

Hate to bring the evil overload into the conversation, but that's the Snyder mentality.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

But then again, there were fewer people here and they were all die-hards. I think those fans are more forgiving and patient than newer fans (who only know the glory days) and bandwagoners (who only stick around for the glory days).
------------------------------------
I agree with you Tom, however most of the most negative posters here purport to be long time die hard fans, and they are certainly not forgiving or patient.

Posted by: ds_kelly | March 2, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Here are your Rooting Instructions for Wednesday, March 2 2011:

PIT (65) @ TOR (70): Go Leafs...duh!
TBL (81) @ NJD (58): Barring a miracle, the Devs won't make the playoffs this season--too much salary cap drama and too few wins until (probably) too late. They might have been better off if they'd signed a pact with Miro81 (heh). Go Devils!.
MIN (72) @ NYI (55): Those poor Isles just can't get a break. It isn't their fault their record sucks. Oh wait...actually it is. Go Wild.
CGY (75) @ CHI (74): DAY-yum! Calgary started the season not-so-hot and have since come roaring back to 5th in the West culminating in a home&home sweep of STL (6-0 last night--Iggy was ON!). They may not catch Vancouver, but at this rate it looks like they're in the playoffs for sure.Go Flames.
DET (84) @ ANA (71): This one's easy: Go Ducks. Wait a minute..."Go Ducks"? What kind of Mickey Mouse organization would name their team the Ducks?

Posted by: Rhino40 | March 2, 2011 5:15 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1 - good insight as per usual, and delivered with a much cooler head than I can muster these days - damn near every time I read another of GMGM's self-aggrandizing / condescending quotes I want to scream...

On that note, my response on an earlier thread:

My response is always: compared to what? I mean yeah, of course they're good; they're in the NHL. But relative to the other teams, is Armstrong really that good...?
---------------

Very well-stated, PSD1 - as a Caps fan I'd merely sub Schultz for Armstrong, and the point's the same!

This gets to the heart of my main beef with GMGM - of course every GM will be partial to their own picks, that's natural. But if STL can cut bait with Johnson - the highly-touted, #1 overall pick just a few years back, and silver-medal winner in an hyper-competitive Olympics - shouldn't GMGM, on some level, be able to do the same with his own draftees?

I mean, noone's perfect, and the overall record [of late, I'd hasten to add] of i.e., Ovie, Backs, Carlson, Varly, Alzner, Neuvy, Orlov, Kuznetzov, etc. looks quite good - but if you're never able to admit even the little mistake [although I wouldn't call picking E Fehr ahead of Getzlaf a minor flub], that does not bode well long-term. And it maybe explains how Nylander got, well, "Nylandered;" after all, didn't GMGM bring him here in the first place?

Posted by: Timbo_1 | March 2, 2011 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant, Rhino. One of the highlights of my day so far!

Posted by: wocoliz | March 2, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

@Rhino

I agree. Keep it up! I'm glad that you started doing this again. Especially on this board instead of email.

Posted by: nicety251 | March 2, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

For those who missed this post a few days ago:

As each year's trade deadline occurs and teams enter the final stretch of the season, knowing who else to root for (so as to further the objectives of our favorite team, even when they're not playing) can be confusing.

So I came up with a set of "rules"--well, guidelines, really--to help decide whom to root for...

Here they are, submitted for your approval:

1) Support Your Local Gunfighters: Always, always, ALWAYS root for the Caps to win. No exceptions.
2) The Enemy Of My Enemy...: Always root for whomever is playing against the Pengiuns. The only exception is in those rare situations where a Penguin victory would benefit the Caps' position in the standings.
3) Go West, Young Fan: If a game is between a Western Conference team and an Eastern Conference team other than the Caps, root for the Western team to win. If both are from the West, root for the one with fewer standings points unless the "better" team is a personal favorite.
4) Go, Canada!: If one of the teams playing is from Canada, root for them to win...unless that team is the Habs. Never root for the Habs to win unless they're playing against a) the Penguins or b) another team from our division. If both teams are from Canada, root for the one that's not the Habs. Beyond that, you're on your own when it comes to the Great White North.
5) Never Date Within The Division: If if the game involves the 'Canes, Lightning, Panthers, or Thrashers, root for their opponent (except where it conflicts with the other rules). If both teams are from the Southeast and neither is the Caps, root for the team that has fewer standings points.
6) A Rival And An Enemy Are Two Different Things/The Lesser Of Two Weevils: Also root for whomever is playing against the Rangers, Bruins, or Flyers--except where this conflicts with other rules. If they are playing one another, root for the team with fewer standings points.

...And, courtesy of another poster:

7) 60 Minute Men: Any win is good, but a Regulation win is better. Generally, root for the outcomes specified in rules #1 through #6 to occur in Regulation time.

Posted by: Rhino40 | March 2, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"picking E Fehr ahead of Getzlaf"

if all gm's new then what they know now - getzlaf still wouldn't have been a capital. i'm sure the nyr would have used their 12th pick to get him over jessiman.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | March 2, 2011 5:02 PM

I am going to report you as abusive, posting a rational explanation in the mental asylum is not very nice.

Posted by: hock1 | March 2, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey all,

Going to watch the bears play Norfolk tonite. I'll let you know how they look. The bears should be on their 4th goalie on the chart?

Posted by: Dizruption | March 2, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

@Capt Kirk - but it's not hindsight, it is the complete and utter inability to admit even the slightest mistake. My point was, E Fehr should never have gone nearly that high, regardless of whether Getzlaf slipped. yeah the guy's got great hands and put up big #'s in jrs, but so what - the minors are littered with guys who did exactly that. He's slow, and soft - for most GM's, either one of those - never mind both! - is an automatic disqualifier, certainly for the first round [and not late, either].

And for all those who say Caw-Caw is tough on E Fehr - what, as opposed to all those other NHL coaches who gave Fehr quality minutes?

Posted by: Timbo_1 | March 2, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

--Boo--:

there were a few that occasionally consumed kool-aid before, that have since sworn off of it and only indulge on goats blood now.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Timbo_1:
but the comment is always fehr over getzlaf - in 2003 no one knew how an 18 yr old might turn out. if your stance is he shouldn't have been drafted in the 1st round because he is slow and soft - ok. but that has nothing to do with getzlaf.
i'll bet the kings are kicking themselves for picking mike sullivan (8th/#244) over dustin byfuglien (#245).
every time i see that comparison of fehr/getz - it is hindsight to me.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I mean, noone's perfect, and the overall record [of late, I'd hasten to add] of i.e., Ovie, Backs, Carlson, Varly, Alzner, Neuvy, Orlov, Kuznetzov, etc. looks quite good - but if you're never able to admit even the little mistake [although I wouldn't call picking E Fehr ahead of Getzlaf a minor flub], that does not bode well long-term. And it maybe explains how Nylander got, well, "Nylandered;" after all, didn't GMGM bring him here in the first place?

Posted by: Timbo_1 |

You're crazy if you think GMs are going to apologize for drafting someone ahead of someone else.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | March 2, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Not apologize - just move a dude once it's clear he can't cut it, but his value's still high. And it's not just one guy, either.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | March 2, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

if your stance is he shouldn't have been drafted in the 1st round because he is slow and soft - ok.
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That is exactly my point. Would that it were just one guy to whom that applied.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | March 2, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

just move a dude once it's clear he can't cut it, but his value's still high. And it's not just one guy, either.

Posted by: Timbo_1 |

I see your point, but I don't think it necessarily applies to Fehr here, maybe in the off-season. I think we should wait and see what he does when he returns.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | March 2, 2011 5:56 PM | Report abuse

That is exactly my point. Would that it were just one guy to whom that applied.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | March 2, 2011 5:55 PM

got it. they are not all slow - but almost all are soft

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

@Timbo

The Capitals, and GMGM, actually drafts pretty good for later 1st round picks. So there was Eminger, Pokuluk, Sutherby, and Beech, but there was also Carlson, Neuvy, Varlamov, and Green.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | March 2, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, was occupied and couldn't follow up. In case you guys read this:

@tw46
@ds_kelly
@sidehillman

tw46: Kudos, you're a lucky man. My time w/the Dead was just catching shows and touring (GD and JGB) from 85-95, and I'm still trucking w/whatever incarnation the boys come around with. Of course I knew there was no way you could prove it, why do you think I typed it? Sounds like it was a special time.

I'm not sure how you get that Jerry, Bobby, Brent, or Phil couldn't sing. (OK, I'll give you Phil but it sure was great when he did). Personally, I've never seen a more soulful, emotional white singer than Jerry (maybe his bandmate Brent). Geddy Lee, Roger Waters/David Gilmour, Warren Haynes, Greg Allman, Eric Clapton (rockers who play an instrument and aren't just vocalists), they've got nothing on JG/BW when it comes to singing. In the name of civility, to each their own I suppose.

But I guess in a way, tw46, you helped make my point about Johnny Rock Star. Jerry's brilliance was dismissed by mainstream music fans like yourself, much like Erskine's attributes are dismissed by novice fans sold on the idea of "The New Post-Lockout Era" approach to constructing lineups in DC.

ds_kelly: your articulation of the Caps/Dead comparison was a beautiful post.

sidehillman: thanks for noticing, and I don't know about the whole band but I could certainly hang with Rasputin

Posted by: vermontcaps | March 2, 2011 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I see your point, but I don't think it necessarily applies to Fehr here, maybe in the off-season. I think we should wait and see what he does when he returns.
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You sir have a deal - but something tells me this will be a recurring theme with this player.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | March 2, 2011 6:04 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil2 - I believe I acknowledged every one of those guys [sans Green] earlier, and GMGM's improved drafting of late - but spending precious firsts on the likes of "Eminger, Pokuluk, Sutherby, and Beech," [whom you point out, to your credit] very few GMs around the league would get a chance to then get...
but there was also Carlson, Neuvy, Varlamov, and Green."

Like I said above, it's not really the drafting for me - which I admitted has vastly improved lately - it is the self-aggrandizing tone, and, even more than that, the utter unwillingess to acknowledge [not publicly, but through action] a mistake, even a minor one.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | March 2, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

@Rhino40

Very good rules on who to root for!

Some fans might substitute Flyers for Penguins on who to always root against but in my case, it's the Penguins.

Rule #4 on rooting for Canadian teams only applies this year since Montreal is the only Eastern team who's a possible threat to the Caps position in the standings. The Western Division Canadian teams fall into the West category and I'm essentially disinterested in them unless they play Eastern teams (or Western teams I like).

As for the rules on rooting for Western teams against Western teams, I'm essentially disinterested except for matchups involving teams I like in the Weat. (Blues are my 2nd favorite team, for the record.)

Rule 5 on never dating within division should rank ahead of the other rules except #1 and #2.

On the Rival and Enemy thing in Rule #6, it would be modified if the standings were different.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | March 2, 2011 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I'll preface this by saying I've been an hourly reader of this blog for so long that I'm now to the point that I know who's posting before I see the name. I'm soaking up as much as I can from all of you, and I appreciate it all--even the hissy fits (for the most part). I usually say nothing--listen and learn. But as someone who's owned a record store for 25-odd years, I'm not sure I can handle the concept of hockey and jam bands having some sort of equivalence in the larger scheme of things. There's just something wrong with that. Especially the Dead. And as someone who now finally gets to say something on this blog with a shred of confidence, let me just say that out of your list, Greg Allman is by far the most soulful singer listed. Hands down, end of debate--and I'm not even a huge fan. Jerry isn't even close. Sorry--now go on with today's hockey lesson, folks.

Posted by: maalesh | March 2, 2011 6:37 PM | Report abuse

For all the people complaining that Semin would sit out if he had Backstrom's identical injury.

While we don't know the exact answer, Semin was playing through various conditions that have been documented beginning on Nov 30/Dec 1. He sat out for a week in mid-December, came back (way too soon, IMHO), only to get injured again (or was it reinjuring the same part) and then sit out for a month. Note: that's when his productivity went downhill -- when playing hurt and ill.

We're seeing that with Nicky B as well. Playing with a broken thumb and not playing particularly effective. (I had heard rumors that NB had a sprained ankle during but was playing through it in Dec/Jan)

On finger injuries of our guys, we had Knuble out last year 3-4 weeks, Schultz for about 3 weeks this year (and didn't he have a broken thumb or finger two years ago, as well.) Not to mention Bradley. My gut feeling is that Nicky's thumb is not as seriously injured as the other guys I listed but bad enough to not be effective.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | March 2, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

By no means should anyone consider this an endorsement of the nu-metal shite that the VC music programmer tends to favor at the games either. But one has to draw the line somewhere, and the Dead probably is it for me.

Posted by: maalesh | March 2, 2011 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom is a tough player. I'm glad to see the Backstrom bashing has stopped, for now.
I for one am pleased that the Caps gave up very little & improved the team. Do you think Wideman can learn to play left-handed by the time Green gets back?

Posted by: chriscaps | March 2, 2011 6:41 PM | Report abuse

He's not having the best year like the prior ones but I would rather he's on the ice than someone scrub of Hershey.

85% of Backs is better than 100% Matthieu Perrault (no disrespect!)

Posted by: Rocc00 | March 2, 2011 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Rocc00, that leads me to a question I've been meaning to ask for a long time: should Perreault even be trying to play center in the NHL? When he first came up, I was hoping he might become our version of Marty St. Louis--quick, agile, and with great hands. Instead, they had him playing 2C or 3C, which makes no sense as small as he is. Can someone with more knowledge explain this to me? Thanks!

Posted by: wocoliz | March 2, 2011 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Greg Allman is by far the most soulful singer listed. Hands down, end of debate--and I'm not even a huge fan. Jerry isn't even close. Sorry--now go on with today's hockey lesson, folks.

Posted by: maalesh | March 2, 2011 6:37 PM

+1

Best guitarist ever not named Jimi Hendrix = Duane Allman. Best southern rock/blues singer ever = Gregg Allman. Best rock band in the history of mankind = The Allman Brothers Band.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 2, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Just checked in. I love reading Arnott's comments from last night. Hey GMGM: fire BB and make Arnott player coach. Maybe the young guns will listen to him.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | March 2, 2011 7:21 PM | Report abuse

"@ BobLHead (if that is your real name)"
Posted by: yesisaiditfirst

Now that ^^^ is funny!


Posted by: Wiley_One1 | March 2, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

On other teams, injured guys sit out until they are healed or the playoffs start. Orpik breaks a finger, he's out 2-4 weeks. It doesn't matter that the Pens lost half their lineup, Orpik sits. The Caps continue to play their guys so they can have a ready made excuse for another early round exit. Brilliant!

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@ ablake70

Someone posted this the other day, and I think it's fitting here:

http://d0inw0rk.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/randy-quaid-major-league.jpg?w=464&h=251

Posted by: catamounts_hockey | March 2, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Semin misses 10-20 games every year while Backs hasn't missed a single game in his career. Being expensive and fragile might work for Paris Hilton but not for any professional athlete.

Posted by: joek443 | March 2, 2011 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Hershey's playing Norfolk tonight. 1-1 at the end of the first period, and John Walton just tweeted:
"The more I see Dmitri Orlov, the more I think we better enjoy this kid while he's here. Another solid period here for him here in Norfolk."

I don't know any specifics--I forgot about the game and just now started streaming the audio.

Posted by: wocoliz | March 2, 2011 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised that any self respecting Caps fan or hockey fan would rag on Backstrom's toughness. He has never missed a game. You all are becoming too much. One of the best players to ever wear a Capital jersey and you all degrade him. Amazing. We could have Gretzky on this team and you all would say trade him because he does not hit enough. Backstrom is in the top 10 centeman in the whole league. Maybe we should send him to Hershey. Oh the one penalty Backstrom took was a horrible call by the ref and the other one was smart.

Posted by: pkme | March 2, 2011 8:30 PM | Report abuse

pkme: I'm a Backstrom fan. I'm the one who put about the penalties. If you go back and check, Backstrom has a propensity to get penalties in the last 5-7 minutes of the game. The first penalty, the holding, was just a bad play by him. I'm not ragging on him, but he needs to have a little more situational awareness.

Vs PHX 4 mins left caps down by 1 4-min dbl minor high-sticking

Vs Isles last 7 mins TWO minor holding penalties

Be honest, if Semin had drawn those two penalties he would have been tossed under the bus by BB and then villified on the blog here.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/teams/was/stats

Backstrom has the same PIM as Ovi less Ovi's 5-min fighting major. And Ovi is way more aggressive, although Backie is moderately aggressive.

I don't mind PIM except last few minutes when you are losing, there is never a good PIM.

Respectfully yours, tominsocal1

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 2, 2011 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Heck yeah! Kovalchuk just put the Devils up 2-1 against Tampa with just under 10 mins left.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 2, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Tom,

Career wise he looks pretty good to me in reference to PM. In the playoffs he looks fantastic in that regard. Towes who I would regard is one of the most disciplined players in the whole NHL has about the same penalty minutes. I think Backs is one of the most disciplined players on the whole team. This has been a strange year for the team. We can all admit that. Look at the numbers.

2007–08 Washington Capitals NHL 82 14 55 69 +13 24 7 4 2 6 +3 2
2008–09 Washington Capitals NHL 82 22 66 88 +16 46 14 3 12 15 +3 8
2009–10 Washington Capitals NHL 82 33 68 101 +37 50 7 5 4 9 +7 4

Posted by: pkme | March 2, 2011 9:14 PM | Report abuse

BTW Stecks is getting a respectable amount of icetime centering Pelley (Buckeye team mate of Stecks) and Clarkson. He's still getting ice time late in this tight game. Good for him.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 2, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Tom,

Backs has only 34 minutes of penalties in 64 games this season. He is probably in my opinion the smartest player in the whole team and among the smartest players in the whole NHL. Can I take four more just like him?

Posted by: pkme | March 2, 2011 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Devils won. The Lightning only have 1 game in hand against the Caps now and that game is tomorrow against Boston.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 2, 2011 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I miss Green in the line-up. I know some on here do not like him. In a strange way I wish Green would step up a little more and revert to his old explosive way. The risks versus rewards argument. He is like a Paul Coffey style D and The Caps should let him play his game but with a little more awareness. He seems hesitant with the puck these days. Tell you what he can enter the zone better than Crosby at times. I mean do you drive a Porshe at 30 mph. They need to let him open it up a little.

Posted by: pkme | March 2, 2011 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the Devils/Bolts info, fanohock1. I don't have Center Ice and I'm too cheap to pay for a decent stream, so I'm stuck watching the Pens/Leafs (which is going to OT right now). Go Leafs!

Posted by: wocoliz | March 2, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Hope Green is back by the playoffs. I hope this injury is not more serious. I know some will say how dreadful he was against The Habs. Remember he is still a pretty young guy.

Posted by: pkme | March 2, 2011 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I agree pkme the Caps are a better team with Green in the line-up.

wocoliz: Yeah, my wife is a pretty cool lady. I have season tix, centerice, and NHL online for me to keep up while on the road for business.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 2, 2011 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I have followed caps well over 20 yrs,I have never heard them booed by their own fans so much.hey real Caps fans next time your at a game and a so called fan starts booing polietly reach over and punch them!

Posted by: 23rough | March 2, 2011 9:39 PM | Report abuse

You can't let McPhee off the hook in 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NHL_Entry_Draft

There were a number of All-Stars selected right after Fehr (they are in yellow) plus several in the 2nd Round. Compared to who was picked in the slots a few picks ahead of and behind him, we can call 2003 (like 2005) a bad draft.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 2, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Tom,

He missed on that draft on Fehr. Perry, Getzlaf, Richards, Kesler being the best. But then you realize that 28 teams passed on Perry. Who I would love to have on this team. Then again having any of the above last year The Caps would have won the Cup in my opinion. There are times where Mcphee does well. He did well on Green and Carlson. Lots of teams passed on them.

Posted by: pkme | March 2, 2011 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Devils won. The Lightning only have 1 game in hand against the Caps now and that game is tomorrow against Boston.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 2, 2011 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Boston won all 6 games of their road trip and now go home to face TB with the Lightning on a back to back situation...

The Caps now have a real opportunity to get first in the division as early as this weekend. Fortunes can change quickly in the NHL.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | March 2, 2011 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The booing of your own team at home is in really bad taste. I know people spend their hard earned money but sports is like life manic depression. Sometimes it is good however The Caps lately at home have been a disaster.

Posted by: pkme | March 2, 2011 10:01 PM | Report abuse

tom:
i won't try and defend gmgm for the 2003 draft - he obviously didn't do that well. i checked pit (MAF #1 overall - no brainer) and they selected ryan stone (#32) just before one of the 'all-stars', loui eriksson, in that list. so it'd be easy for me to claim pit had a poor draft.
the isles took dmitri chernykh just before shea weber (#'s 48 & 49) - even there 1st round, #15, robert nilsson wouldn't appear that good. they also picked 58th, 4 spots before david backes. i'd say the did worse than gmgm.
i don't have any issues that gmgm did a poor job that year - but comparing players just before or after those picks is hindsight. judging him on his picks and coming up with a conclusion that he had a bad draft is ok. most use the 'he coulda had...' as justification that he s*cks. i say let him s*ck on his on merits, not what could have been.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2011 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Cmon, Nicks injury hasnt made him any worse than he's been all year. Really pressing, its just not going his way at all.

Posted by: joeshred | March 2, 2011 10:35 PM | Report abuse

BTW Stecks is getting a respectable amount of icetime centering Pelley (Buckeye team mate of Stecks) and Clarkson. He's still getting ice time late in this tight game. Good for him.

Posted by: fanohock1 |

His play on the PK cost them the goal against that they had.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | March 2, 2011 10:57 PM | Report abuse

@maleesh

Welcome to the party! I hope business is good, and no complaints w/Greg Allman. Before a show at Merriweather once he rode up on a Harley, stopped and hung out w/a bunch of us in the lot, then on he went...one cool mf-er!. (Haven't heard much on his health, I hope he's doing well.)

And to the poster who championed Phish today, I met Trey a few years ago at Great Escape in Lake George...he, too, is awesome.

All of em are good, as is/was/and forever Jerry G, which was my point. The man could sing his ass off, he just did it so often that sometimes his voice couldn't keep up. Unquestionably, he was THE BIGGEST AND GREATEST ROAD WARRIOR OF THEM ALL!!

Now for hockey and the latest talk here, I'm not sure what to make of Backstrom. Is he tough? No doubt. Is he having an off year? No question. Should he be playing w/his injury? No way.

To risk losing Backstrom indefinitely this late in the season, when games get more physical and intense as the push to the playoffs magnifies, just seems stupid. Better to err on the side of caution, as the Pens are w/Orpik's similar injury, than to throw an 85% Backy at guys going 110%. Get Beagle in there, and give DJK a game to be all-inclusive and promote TEAM SPIRIT!

BB MUST GO!!! (three)

Posted by: vermontcaps | March 2, 2011 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Back from the bears game. First period was pretty even, then the bears were severely outworked the rest of the game. Lost 6-1. Orlov looks really good for his age. He's got good speed and looked good with the puck.

Posted by: Dizruption | March 2, 2011 11:22 PM | Report abuse

@catamounts_hockey

I guess you never heard that injury excuse for the Montreal series. According to the team, Green injured his wrist and Ovi injured his groin some time before the end of the regular season. Of course, both played big minutes down the stretch chasing stats.

@Joek

It's better that a players misses 10-20 games than risk further damage trying to play through an injury. Whether Backstrom is ineffective for 10 games or in the press box, he's still worth the same money.

I'm not a fan of the Iron Man streak. If a guy is injured in the regular season, he needs to sit. It's better that a player rests during the regular season than be forced to rest when he is really needed in the playoffs.

And let's face it, everyone praises guys for toughing it out like a warrior, but what happens when the injuries start to mount and play is affected? The player becomes persona non grata. And don't think anyone will remember Backstrom's dedication and give him a pass. All they will see is the numbers, the salary and demand that he be traded or "Nylandered". It happens everyday in every sport. It is important that players take care of themselves for their team and their career.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2011 11:34 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1
@Deadheads

This one was fun. First one to guess the song wins a bozo prize:

I woke today
Turned on my computer
The words were still fresh
Where he had posted them….

He was gone
My heart was filled with dread.
Cstanton might not be posting
Here again….

But that’s all right
‘Cuz we love him
That’s not gonna change
Run me ‘round, make me hurt
Again and again and again….

But we’ll still post him longings
Written in the letters of his name
And praying for the storm to come
For it surely looks like rain…..

Did you ever wake up to the words
Of cstanton going off?
You'd guess from his tone
You were listening to spite

Well you know, oh
Peace is the last thing he's thinking of
He's only trying to make it
Through the season, through the season...

Posted by: vermontcaps | March 2, 2011 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh gawd, vermon posting a love ode to cstant.

It's almost more than I can (urp . . . no, wait, I'll . . . URP . . . hold o' . . . RETCH!!)

Uck. Sorry, guys.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | March 3, 2011 12:05 AM | Report abuse

You know I just had to finish the song, and I'm gonna keep it and post it whenever theres a prolonged cstanton absence. Here it is in its entirety:

I woke today
Turned on my computer
The words were still fresh
Where he had posted them….

He was gone
My heart was filled with dread.
Cstanton might not be posting
Here again….

But that’s all right
‘Cuz we love him
That’s not gonna change
Run us ‘round, make some hurt
Again and again and again….

But we’ll still post him longings
Written in the letters of his name
And praying for the storm to come
For it surely looks like rain…..

Did you ever wake up to the words
Of cstanton going off?
You'd guess from his tone
You were listening to spite

Well you know, oh
Peace is the last thing he's thinking of
He's only trying to make it
Through the season, through the season...

Some only tried to scold him
Tried to hold him down
And fence him within the lines
They had drawn

It’s just that we, we
We gotten used to having him around
Our landscape is barren empty
Now that you're gone

But it’s all right
‘Cuz we love him
That’s not gonna change
Run us ‘round, make some hurt
Again and again and again….

And we’ll still post him longings
Written in the letters of his name
And praying for the storm to come
For it surely looks like rain…..


Posted by: vermontcaps | March 3, 2011 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | March 3, 2011 12:05 AM | Report abuse

The entire song was for you, Stevie boy, and I'll be sure to address it to you if ever posted again...I know how much you'd miss him, as you're one of the posters he hurts again and again :)

Additionally, I can't believe you, of all people, have a problem with one man expressing a collective group's fondness for another man....WHAT A HYPOCRITE!

Posted by: vermontcaps | March 3, 2011 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Backstrom has a broken thumb, but there are a wide variety of those type of injuries. If Backstrom's injury is of the type that is not susceptible to re-injury due to movement of the thumb(i.e. it's a small stress fracture in a a certain area) then there is no extra risk of Backstrom playing through it. The risk of Backstrom getting injured would be equal to the risk of Backstrom getting injured while completely healthy.

All injuries are not the same people. There are so many varieties of a broken thumb because of differences of severity and location that it isn't wise to group them all together in how they should be rehabbed.

I will trust the doctors who specialize in this field, have actually evaluated Backstrom personally, and have determined his course of treatment based on their medical knowledge and their evaluation of the symptoms that Backstrom has displayed than a random poster basing his treatment recommendations purely off of the knowledge that Backstrom has a broken thumb.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2011 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Ha! " . . . collective group's fondness . . ." I like that one, vermon.

Please do - I'll look forward to it, every time.

And if he ever does a "vote for/against me," pity-party, martyr-complex, I'm-taking-my-puck-and-going-home maneuver again, I will miss him.

I appreciate his (and your, periodic) insight and more often than not (like, 90%) agree with his assessments of the team, the coach, and the GM.

It's his tone that's all wrong.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | March 3, 2011 12:33 AM | Report abuse

pkme: I love Backie. Great player. I posted about 1,000,000 times how he should get exactly 6.5-6.7 for the contract (I predicted 11 yrs 71.5 rather than 10 yrs 67.0).

It's just about 4 times this year he has goofed up with penalties in the last 5 minutes.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 3, 2011 12:41 AM | Report abuse

-sgm3

He can't take F/Os and is wearing a splint in practice, but he's fine? Right!

If a broken finger is not set properly, there will be a loss of mobility.

I will trust the doctors who specialize in this field, have actually evaluated Backstrom personally, and have determined his course of treatment based on their medical knowledge and their evaluation of the symptoms that Backstrom has displayed than a random poster basing his treatment recommendations purely off of the knowledge that Backstrom has a broken thumb.

Really? Team doctors always have the players' best interests at heart? So I guess the Pens doctors thought it was best for Crosby to finish the WC and play another game after Steckel knocked him out? And the Caps' doctors thought the best course of treatment for Backstrom's and Green's bum shoulders was to keep playing. This sort of thinking is naive.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 3, 2011 12:52 AM | Report abuse

sgm: You have a good point. It's one ting to be Capt Obvious and say how McPhee should have taken Getzlaf. It's another thing entirely fpr a person presume to be a doctor and prescribe what Backie should or shouldn't do.

That said, the Caps are GUILTY as charged of stat padding at times. Look at the way BB puts one of his lesser effective forwards (Ovi) EVERY TIME there's an empty net.

Since we don't have Kono, Dahlen, Bobby Gould or Kelly Miller, Laich is probably our best bet. Backie is too if healthy. Knuble, Bradley, even Semin actually does very good PK so should do well at 5-on-6. But Ovi...he never plays on PK.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 3, 2011 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Lesser effective defensive forwards...

Posted by: tominsocal1 | March 3, 2011 12:54 AM | Report abuse

@leftcoast
@hock1

Man, you guys can't be serious. Do you have any friends that you went to college or grad school with that are fans of other NHL teams ? Any colleges in other hockey towns ?

Probably not. Because we're considered a joke franchise by most hockey fans outside this city. Ted is Georgetown nerd who got "baited and switched" by the ultimate con man: Uncle Abe. He knows nothing about play off hockey. If he did, he would not have said "Cups, in due time". That's serious hockey ignorance. Man's never seen a real play off blood bath. I guess that's why he's OK with GMGM constructing a team that is considered a joke in most hockey towns.

Lefty, time to go back to that "hacky sack" game in Bejerkly. Same hacky sack game you were playing when the true bad asses (Flyers and Hawks) were playing smash mouth hockey. We know you missed the finals, because your takes are so "non play" WIMPY.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | March 3, 2011 1:06 AM | Report abuse

@timbo

Your take on Fehr is dead on. There a million guys in the juniors who could do what Fehr did. A totally blown pick by GMGM. "Soft and Slow" removes you from being picked by the real beastly NHL teams that are serious about hoisting.

Fehr never gets picked by Flyers, Pens, Wings, Bolts (with Yzerman), Ducks, Habs,Canucks and more. Crap pick ! Dump him ! Will be a "no show" in the play offs AGAIN !

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | March 3, 2011 1:14 AM | Report abuse

@timbo

Your take on Fehr is dead on. There a million guys in the juniors who could do what Fehr did. A totally blown pick by GMGM. "Soft and Slow" removes you from being picked by the real beastly NHL teams that are serious about hoisting.

Fehr never gets picked by Flyers, Pens, Wings, Bolts (with Yzerman), Ducks, Habs,Canucks and more. Crap pick ! Dump him ! Will be a "no show" in the play offs AGAIN !

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | March 3, 2011 1:15 AM | Report abuse

i thought e fehr did just fine in last years playoffs - 7gm, 3g & 1a

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 3, 2011 1:22 AM | Report abuse

@sgm3
@tomin faultline cali

If I just went 7 weeks with out scoring after having a guy like Ovi on my wing, I would be playing with a broken thumb too.

With the kind of attention Ovi draws, how do go 7 with out a goal ? Guys talented, but he's not the "play off beast center" we need to hoist. Hope I'm wrong !

Backy can't hold Toew's used stick tape, after what I saw last year.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | March 3, 2011 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Capt, Rewatch the series. Fehr got thrown around by Gill.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | March 3, 2011 1:29 AM | Report abuse

"Fehr got thrown around by Gill."

Hunterforcoach:
that is much different than a "no show"

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 3, 2011 1:33 AM | Report abuse

@Capt

Fehr needed to chuck his body into that "slot clog" the Habs were pulling. We needed a puck or two to bounce into the net off the rear ends of guys like Laich, Fehr, Stecks, and Knuble. The Flyers just kept going to the net against the "sickly looking Slovak net minder" and pucks bounced off guys "weenies" and in. Isn't rocket science. It's ugly play off hockey. The kind we don't know how to play.

We did not pay the price as usual, the Flyers did and made their 6th visit (yea, 6th sgm3) to the Finals, since we came into the league. We attempted 100 shots in game 6. Pretty piss poor effort in the slot on our part. Same old Caps play off disappointment (effort wise). New GM will help change the play off "wimp outs". I hope !

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | March 3, 2011 2:25 AM | Report abuse

BTW Stecks is getting a respectable amount of icetime centering Pelley (Buckeye team mate of Stecks) and Clarkson. He's still getting ice time late in this tight game. Good for him.

Posted by: fanohock1 |

His play on the PK cost them the goal against that they had.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | March 2, 2011 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Steckel was on the ice for Tampa's PP goal. How in the heck was it Steckel's fault? Kubina literally threw it toward the net, along the ice, and it bounced off of Dominic Moore's skate into the net. It was a fortuitous bounce.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2011 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Really? Team doctors always have the players' best interests at heart? So I guess the Pens doctors thought it was best for Crosby to finish the WC and play another game after Steckel knocked him out? And the Caps' doctors thought the best course of treatment for Backstrom's and Green's bum shoulders was to keep playing. This sort of thinking is naive.

Posted by: ablake70

If you think the docs did that to crosby on purpose your deluding yourself...of course you want a great player to play, but a team isn't going to purposefully risk firther injury to a great player (even a lesser one)! It's not good in the long run...I bet players "play down" injuries a lot b/c they don't want to miss time. If the docs say backs can play safely then I am going to believe them...b/c no sane team (and we are) is going to risk taking a simple broken thumb on a 6+mil player and turning it into a long term injury...thats ridiculous and just isn't done.

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2011 7:43 AM | Report abuse

With Malkin out for the year, and perhaps the same for Crosby, the Caps better take advantage of this situation.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 3, 2011 7:51 AM | Report abuse


With Malkin out for the year, and perhaps the same for Crosby, the Caps better take advantage of this situation.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 3, 2011 7:51 AM |

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why would you say that ?

the caps own the season series 3-1

bring on cry-baby

Posted by: hessone | March 3, 2011 8:08 AM | Report abuse


new thread folks

Posted by: hessone | March 3, 2011 8:10 AM | Report abuse

@Timbo_1
@Hunterforcoach

RE: Fehr:

Mike Bossy, one of the greatest snipers in NHL history, was almost not picked by the Isles because he was considered timid and didn't check. They were trying to decide whether to pick him or a checking forward that they were also considering. They went with Bossy figuring it would be easier to teach a scorer how to check. Just sayin'.

I'm not defending the pick. It's hard to give up on first rounders. Fehr has been given opportunities. I don't know what the future holds, but I didn't have a problem with him being a Cap on Jan. 1 of this year.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | March 3, 2011 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Is there anyone more pretentious than vermontcaps around here? Well, maybe but I don't know where. First he's Mr. Deadhead and now Allman brothers groupie. He knows how to pick 'em all right: Greg Allman shot himself in the foot to avoid the draft in the '60's - now there's a gutsy guy for ya. So y'all listen to Mr. vermontcaps when he talks hockey because he knows exactly where it's at. And it's very, very important - to him - that he prove that to us ... over and over and over and ... .

Posted by: tw46 | March 3, 2011 9:32 AM | Report abuse

If you think the docs did that to crosby on purpose your deluding yourself...of course you want a great player to play, but a team isn't going to purposefully risk firther injury to a great player (even a lesser one)! It's not good in the long run...I bet players "play down" injuries a lot b/c they don't want to miss time. If the docs say backs can play safely then I am going to believe them...b/c no sane team (and we are) is going to risk taking a simple broken thumb on a 6+mil player and turning it into a long term injury...thats ridiculous and just isn't done.

Posted by: capscoach

Let me share a story.

The first week of the 2010 NFL season, the Eagles Middle Linebacker got hit hard. He got up to walk off the field, fell down like a drunk, then finally made it back to the sideline. All of this in view of television cameras. He was back on the field at the start of the 2nd half. Of course his return didn't last long, but it should have been obvious to everyone the guy had a concussion.

It the nature of sports from pee-wee to the pros. If you're not being taken off on a stretcher, you're healthy enough to play.

@sgm3

You are naive if you believe team doctors don't clear injured guys to play.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 3, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse

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