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Ovechkin 'angry' about suspension

Alex Ovechkin says his two-game suspension for a knee-on-knee hit won't make him change the way he plays; rather, it's only fired up the Caps' star winger.

Here's a post-practice video:

By Lindsay Applebaum  |  December 2, 2009; 1:42 PM ET
 
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Trade the dirty bum for Avery.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Ovi has certainly taken a beating over this. A great number of bashings from north of the border. They claim that he has no respect for the game.

Wasn't Mr. Hockey reckless? What constitutes a Gordie Howe hat trick? Goal, assist and fight right? Gordie has taken a liking to Ovechkin for his style of play. Additionally to say he does not respect the game is incorrect. He stood quietly and listened while Gordie spoke.

A couple of quotes from Mr. Hockey himself.

"There's 18 guys sitting down and he's the only one who jumped up to shake my hand," Howe said. "He shows respect for the older players."

"I had some old fellas teach me the follow-through, and the follow-through means anybody coming from the front wasn't going to hurt me," Howe said. "They'd eat the paint off the blade. Wasn't dirty, it was protection. They'd duck or veer off."

Duck or veer off. Wow that sounds familiar to the last two majors received by Ovi. Kaleta ducked and Gleason veered.

The link to the Gordie Howe interview and visit with Ovi.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=501269&cmpid=rss-kimelman

Posted by: fanohock1 | December 2, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Yikes, look out rest of the NHL! Mr. Ovechkin is going to dominate like he never has before.

Hey, Tarik, when is the Post going to give you back your weekly chats?

Posted by: redrocker2 | December 2, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

Ovechkin sounded *really* bummed in this interview. One or two word answers from an extrovert like him? Wow.

I really feel bad for him. This suspension is hitting him really hard. The "Maybe it just make me more angry" quote was clearly a try at a joke, but even Ovechkin looked like he knew it was a weak try. Poor guy! :-( I hope this doesn't turn into something long term for him... :-(

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

TEB- hope you had your fight stap tied down. Looked like Ovi was about to go Rob Ray on you.

Just watched the video- so I chose Ray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh54gxBX1N8

Still one of the best out there.

Posted by: Fro_ | December 2, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I didn't see anything "fired up" about Ovechkin in this interview, Lindsay... His posture, his answers - everything was subdued. It's like he's resigned to the situation, more than fired up about it.

I really hate it when the press tries to change perceptions of a thing based on headlines and wording in an article. One comment out of context does not make the whole article, and the headline is very misleading.

I'm worried now. More so than I was before I saw this interview.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Well that certainly isn't vintage Ovie. I'm sure he's disappointed about being suspended and also has media fatigue.

I didn't think the "angry" quote was a joke at all. He seemed very matter-of-fact about that.

In other news, per Corey: With Jay Beagle gone, it certainly looks like Alexander Semin will play tomorrow (even if he tried to say he isn't for the 2nd straight day).

Posted by: CapsChick | December 2, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1 - So an Alex Ovechkin hat trick is a goal, a major penalty, and an ejection from the game?

</not funny> - sorry, had to. :-/

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@CapsChick - It was the quick flash of a grin that had me thinking he was cracking a joke. It was the only flash of typical Ovechkin I saw in the whole thing. He wouldn't grin about it if he was serious.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I am starting to believe that the NHL's reaction to OV's style of play is almost an anti-Russian thing. They don’t act this way towards Pronger, Richards, Hartnell or any of the “reckless” Canadian players; they are just hockey players, “all heart”. It’s like they are the only ones with a license to play physical hockey. Don Cherry kisses their a** but then is offended by Ovie.

Posted by: CAP-lanta | December 2, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I'd have to watch again, but I didn't see even a hint of a grin. And I was looking for one.

Posted by: CapsChick | December 2, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1 - For a Doofus Brigade Catalog of Available Uniforms, check here:

http://doncherryjacketwatch.wordpress.com/

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

irockthered: I will take that from you cuz I know you are a big fan. An Ovi hat trick is back to back MVP/Rocket Richard years, followed by the Stanley Cup/Conn Smythe.

The injuries and suspension are only making our Capitals believe in themselves more. They have big pieces missing for big chunks of time and still only lost 5 games in regulation. At the start of the season our Caps thought they were a good team. Now they KNOW they are a good team that can win with top forwards and defensemen out of the line-up. They are also starting to learn how to batton down the hatches and secure and build on a lead in the 3rd period.

Posted by: fanohock1 | December 2, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

@CapsChick - He smiled. He didn't show teeth. But it seemed more casual than matter-of-fact to me. I'm just not reading 'angry' in any of what I saw.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Shoot, I don't want to slight Knubs either. He's been a big loss too. How does he look out there? He elgible to come of the LTIR in time to play next Wednesday. Does he look like he'll be ready to go?

Posted by: fanohock1 | December 2, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

He'll be back with a chip on his shoulder. His Hart will be at stake, he'll have something to work for until the playoffs.

Don't worry too much about irtr, he'll be back soon enough.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Both suspensions are total BS. It's clear in the boarding call that Ovie hit the guy on his shoulder (and he turned into the boards to smack his face) and the countless times I've watched the knee hit I'm convinced Ovie went in wide to deliver a shoulder and Gleason moved right into that knee. Why would anyone want to go knee to knee with someone on purpose? There is just as much chance that the kneer will be injured as the person you gets hit - which was just proven.

Posted by: Moose33 | December 2, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Yikes, I didn't like that clip at all.

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1 - Exactly so, on the Caps, and completely agreed! This team is going to be SUPERB this year. They have proven they aren't a one-man show once; they can, and will, do it again.

Personally, I'm glad Ovechkin can't play against the Flyers. I firmly believe they would target that injury, and try to take him out. And they'd get away with it, too.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

They don’t act this way towards Pronger, Richards, Hartnell or any of the “reckless” Canadian players; they are just hockey players, “all heart”. It’s like they are the only ones with a license to play physical hockey. Don Cherry kisses their a** but then is offended by Ovie.

Posted by: CAP-lanta | December 2, 2009 2:01 PM |

Eh...

Pronger is definetely on the NHL short-list for suspensions.

I don't really see it as much as an anti-Russian thing, as just using Ovi to be the martyr. Some superstar had to be made an example of, to save any faith left in the NHL's fleeting credibility. They let Richards get the pass, they let Malkin get the pass. Ovi had 2 incidents in 3 games, it was perfect timing for the league to jump in and try to save what little face is left.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

@Moose33 - I think part of the problem is that the NHL, this season in particular, has gotten a reputation for letting superstars get away with things they should not. And it isn't just Ovechkin. Malkin should have been suspended during the playoffs last season for an instigator he got, and they let him off the hook, even though it's right there in the rulebook. And there have been other incidents as well.

This was as much a "you did bad, and now you have to sit," to Ovechkin as it was a, "see, we *do* suspend superstars! Really, we do!" to the fans, and the rest of the NHL.

Now we have to see if they do it to anyone else, or whether it was just Ovechkin who gets 'special love' from the League.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I specifically asked the NHLOA whether the validity of the call on the ice was taken into consideration on suspensions. Their response:

"The hockey operation department of the NHL have a list of criterias they take into consideration when they suspend a player." (Stephane Auger, NHL Linesman)

I asked where I could obtain a copy of the list... part of me thinks it probably really does look like this:

http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2009/11/nhl-suspensions.html

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

@IRTR

It just further proves that the NHL rules really don't matter, because the goons behind the offices will do whatever makes the owners happy.

Did they ever provide you with a list of where we can find these criteria? I am guessing no.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

They did prove they aren't a one man show Not sure if anyone recognized this because the SE is supposed to be weak, even though 3 SE teams occupy a top 8 spot, but the Caps rang off 2 in a row on Florida right in the middle of their hot streak. We went to Florida without Ovi and beat the Panthers, who had previously won 3 games in a row. We promptly invited into Verizon the next night and exploded with a 5 goal 3rd. After losing back to back to our Caps the Panthers then went 5-0-3 in their next 8 before running into a their most recent losing streak.

I am very interested in seeing how we do in the next 2 games without Ovi. Hopefully Semin will be back tomorrow, but it sounds like the Philly game is a guarantee. It will be nice to see how Semin does while healthy without Ovi in the line-up. Man, are we lucky to have such a dynamic team.

Posted by: fanohock1 | December 2, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Repost from a previous previous thread:

@fanohock1: First of all there is a difference in the rules between the NHL and USA hockey in regards to kneeing. In the NHL when a player has been assessed a major penalty for kneeing he shall also be assessed a game misconduct (I posted the NHL rule in a previous thread). It is automatic. In USA hockey that is not the case. A major for kneeing does not carry an automatic game misconduct.

In USA hockey a major plus a game misconduct shall be assessed whenever an opponent is injured as a result of kneeing. The USA hockey casebook states that if the knee is violently swung with the obvious intent of making a high degree of physical contact a major penalty shall be assessed (not the case in this situation). Next the unwritten rule is to use judgement. If deemed to be reckless and/or dangerous, assess a major, if not assess a minor. IMHO in this case it was borderline. So, I support either call (major or minor).

Just like a coach going off half cocked without a full understanding of the rules. :)

Seriously, I appreciate your work with grass roots hockey. That's the way to get the sport to grow in this country and as well all know it is a great game. Please be responsible and don't send the message to your players that it's okay to be reckless and/or dangerous on the ice.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | December 2, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Сердито в моем языке смогите иметь различную смысль. Эти же как большая игра больна.Я тебя люблю вентиляторы Вашингтон - Алекс

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil

Are you anti-OV for real or just messing around. Half the time I c anti OV comments, but the other half seem to support the Caps...I can't figurigure u out!

Posted by: capscoach | December 2, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil - Not yet, but I only posted the request to get it this morning. I have my doubts, though. The "Down Goes Brown" chart seems to have some validity... :-p

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

@hessone - And posting a quote in Russian on an English-speaking blog doesn't help a whole lot. Translate?

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Tarik, you questions are dangerous. Ovechkin doesnt look happy with you. The Post wont keep you around if you cant get access to the Caps best player.

Posted by: daddy_axe | December 2, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

BetteroffwithFedorov: Yes the game misconduct does come automatically with the 5 minute major in the NHL. The knee on knee does not, it could have very well been a minor.

Just like an official of youth sports coming off with typical arrogance.

You took a jab, I couldn't resist with a response in kind.

I do understand the rules you said the unwritten rule is to judge whether to assess a minor or major in US Hockey. Thus trying to assess the players intent. "The USA hockey casebook states that if the knee is violently swung with the obvious intent of making a high degree of physical contact a major penalty shall be assessed (not the case in this situation). Next the unwritten rule is to use judgement. If deemed to be reckless and/or dangerous, assess a major, if not assess a minor." My point was you represented yourself as someone who would lean towards a major earlier today. The homer rule is obvious in youth hockey too. Especially when you reach the midget level age. As a coach I witness coking and joking between an adult official, and a U18 kid that is playing but also co-officiates games with those same U18 kids in other divisions. The Montgomery County, and NOVA areas are the most obvious.

Posted by: fanohock1 | December 2, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Kneeing can also be a minor penalty.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26342

Posted by: jeadpt | December 2, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach - To the best of my knowledge, richmondphil is not particularly anti-Ovechkin. :-)

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"am starting to believe that the NHL's reaction to OV's style of play is almost an anti-Russian thing."
Posted by: CAP-lanta

I think there is some truth here. Not that this is the only reason or that there is a systematic campaign against Russians, but his being Russian adds salt to the wound for some. Ovie is so visible and bigger than life that it is tempting to detractors (I guess the ethnocentric ones) to be exasperated: "all this fanfare and he is not even Canadian or American. It's a slap in the face."

By the way the guy from Toronto Sun (I think the link was in the morning roundup) had a very interesting perspective. One of the things he said was that Ovie knows who is after him and targets them before they have the chance to attack. It is true that he is a target for every team we play against. Who knows! Maybe his tactic of scaring opponents is smarter than we think. Could it be that he would be targeted much more if players didn't think twice about messing with him?

Posted by: caraveli | December 2, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Ovie is going to break someone in two with a nice clean hit. Except they all dive out of the way like Gleason and get their legs in the way.

Posted by: lavar609 | December 2, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

@irockthered:

On a side note, Sergei got a goal yesterday against his original team CSKA Red Army. Metallurg won 5-4. They're tied for second overall in the league with SKA, and just two points behind Salavat.

Posted by: tess2201 | December 2, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

My respect for Ovie as a person has grown. I think he has demonstrated an incredible amount of character for the way he explained the penalty and how he plans to continue playing. Unleash the fury, Ovie!

Posted by: gonchpup | December 2, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Ovi did bust up his stick on the goal at the end of practice today.

Posted by: Steakum | December 2, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Translation (per Google):

Angrily in my language can have different meanings. The same as a big game bolna.Ya love you fans Washington - Alex

Posted by: tess2201 | December 2, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

First time I ever watched one of these videos and it was hilarious, what a jerk.

Reading these posts, it's clear you people are struggling to make excuses for a complete jerk.

Caps coach & GM have handled this poorly, very poorly, another nail in the coffin.

I hope he demands a trade.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

@jeadpt - Yes it can, but usually, both players are not down on the ice in that sort of an instance.

@fanohock1 - I didn't get that off BetterOffWithFedorov's post.

But "Knee-on-Kneeing" is not the penalty. "Kneeing" is the penalty, and it is not strictly defined as a knee-on-knee hit. You do not have to make knee-on-knee contact to be whistled for Kneeing. And in the NHL, "intent" does not come into play until the match penalty level. And yes, I did ask the NHLOA how they determine it was deliberate.

Last I heard, the Capitals were still in the NHL, so what they do at the lower levels for a kneeing penalty, or a knee-on-kneeing, or whatever they call it, simply does not apply in a discussion of the Capitals and this particular instance.

Now, if you want to talk about kneeing in US Hockey, that's fine. But it's a different topic.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Язык в Россия имеет различное определение. Это же как больной, хорошо. Я влюбленность Вашингтон - Алекс

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Props to Irockthered for posting that flowchart, I was about to but you beat me to it.

I'm more concerned about Ovechkin having a "record"-- I don't really care if he's viewed as a nasty player like Pronger, but he does need to make sure he keeps it under control. We don't need him taking dumb penalties in the playoffs or truly hurting himself or another player. For now-- he gets the benefit of the doubt that he can continue to skate the line between intense competitor and out of control. If he gets suspended again this season, I'll be truly worried.

Posted by: TheGJ | December 2, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

@tess2201 - I saw that earlier! Too cool that Sergei's back and contributing... You did say he was hurt earlier, right?

I pulled a similarly garbled translation off Babelfish. But the word "больна" when translated separately came off as "it is sick." So no clue what the poster really means. So there are different connotations to the word "angry" in Russian. Which one did Ovechkin intend? Only he knows, and I wouldn't press.

But if what I saw in that interview is "angry Alex" in any sense of the word, the Russian language is the most convoluted thing I've ever seen in my life.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I saw RAGE in ovie's eyes. Not sure if his anger has been stirred by the decision or the questioning. I do think if no camera's were there he would have gone ape-s on TEB the way he glared at him.

Posted by: adamtomg | December 2, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

@hessone - I get the general idea...

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

irockthered:
ran it through an online trasnlator:

Angry in we wash language can have various смысль. Same as greater game is sick. I you love fans Washington - Alex

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1 - For a Doofus Brigade Catalog of Available Uniforms, check here:

http://doncherryjacketwatch.wordpress.com/


Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:05 PM

The second one down, the one that makes him look like a roan cow, would provide excellent camouflage when fighting in farm country.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Язык в Россия имеет различное определение. Как больной означать хорошее

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I have a question... If Ovie was NOT suspended, would he suit up Friday, or would the knee cause him to miss a couple of games anyway? Is he mad that being suspended is going to cause him to miss games, or is he just mad about being suspended? Ok, 2 questions...

Posted by: griz0615 | December 2, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

The last one is my masterpiece. I'll ket it go now. I think Alex is young and having fun. Sometimes even us old folks screw up.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

@irockthered:

He missed 3 or 4 games with back spasms. Thankfully he recovered a whole lot quicker than Boyd Gordon seems to be.

Posted by: tess2201 | December 2, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

TEB,

If that was you he was staring at, remind him it's him that caused this, you're just doing your job.

Ovechkin needs to drop the gloves and earn respect, otherwise he's finished 4 year into an amazing Career

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I keep responding... but LarryDavid, what's your reason for you even reading CI? If you think he's such a jerk and if you hate how BB and GMGM has handled things, tell me WHY YOU EVEN CARE about that Caps?! Some people can be soooooooo STUPID. I don't know about you, but I don't go around to other team's blogs and talk crap. I'm starting to get that feeling that you just like ticking people off and being a jerk. I think you are the real jerk

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1 - Oh, completely agreed. There are many, many more, though. My personal favorite is the purple plaid at the top of the April, 2009 page.

@tess2201 - Ugh. Glad he's back. I'm worried about Gordon... if he doesn't get that under control and healed up, his back issues could be career-ending. :-(

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

What did Tarik ask him? I can't put on sound.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

@ adamtomg

I agree...OV looked livid having to answer those questions. I think it would have been better/easier for him if he just made a statement and let that be the end of it.

I am concerned about him coming back...He is either going to struggle for quite a while (sometimes he triesto force plays to happen), or he is going to come back with a vengence and nobody will be able to stop him!!!

I hope it is the latter!

Posted by: capscoach | December 2, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1 - or this one... complete with green beret... :-p

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

rachel216: LarryDavid is a lieutenant colonel, CO of the 1st Battalion of the Doofus Brigade. His battalion includes Oscar Company, which is the Ovechkin bashers.

He is who we think he is.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

irock: That one you just picked with the beret is the parade dress.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I think we have half-jest and half-anger; a bit lethal.

Ovi knows the score and I believe even less that he'll change his style of play. If we line up all the hits that have caused problems over the last four years and 1,000+ hits, minor occurances.

He wants to play and I think he would have played tomorrow night.

See you Monday night, Alex.

Posted by: saintex | December 2, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1,

Tarik asked, after about four short answers, if we were "only getting to get two-word answers today." To which Ovi replied, "Maybe."

Posted by: saintex | December 2, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Who wants to trade Semin?

See this, which was linked on Japers':
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107104574570234177680434.html

Posted by: Steakum | December 2, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Grow up, Ovie. You can play with passion and not do cheap sh*t like knee-on-knee collisions. You had that coming, idiot.

Posted by: MACCHAMPS04 | December 2, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

No to get carried away with the anti-Russian conspiracy but let's just see what happens with the Sochi Olympics...

NHL: Cindy in Vancouver? We're all over that!
NHL: Ovie in Sochi? Forget about it!

Posted by: CAP-lanta | December 2, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I think that Ovi didn't mean to do the knee on knee. It was an accident...and he's angry that he's being suspended 2 games for an accident.

So does the same 41 game rule apply for another misconduct penalty and is a 5 minute major an automatic game misconduct?

Keep playing your game Ovi, just try to be a little more careful.

Posted by: rjma1 | December 2, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1 - The usual you'd expect. What did you feel like when you got the suspension? How is your knee?

I'm still not seeing peeved from Ovechkin... His whole body language - the slump in his shoulders, his tone of voice (quiet, subdued), and that he barely looks up, and gives 1-2 word answers, comes off as more bummed/resigned than mad, even at the line of questions. He cracks two smiles in the whole thing. The eyes, to me, looked like the angle he had to use to see Tarik to answer the questions. I saw absolutely none of the usual flash in his expression or his tone.

And yes, I realize that "angry" to a Russian may not mean the same thing as "angry" to an American...

@griz0615 - I don't think we'll see him until mid-week next week anyway, suspension or none. Maybe against the Sabres; more likely against the Hurricanes on the 11th, IMO. The knee - I didn't catch his whole answer, but it sounded like it's not 100%, and he really probably shouldn't be skating in a game at less. I can see him being irked about the constant questioning about his knee. He's said he isn't giving details, and the press keeps - well - pressing for them. They aren't gonna get 'em, and they didn't even let the guy get a shower before they started in on him today after practice... (Otherwise, we'd be treated to Ovechkin in a towel.)

This is why I'm not a journalist. You have to be a whole lot more rude than I'm comfortable with.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I just thought that some of the Ovie-haters here should see this quote from Puck Daddy's interview with Junior Seau - he's doing that show on sports jobs on Versus and he was the Caps equipment manager for an episode:

"Oh, definitely a hockey player. There's so much more going on. They wear leotards underneath those pads.

What's that one stud's name?

Ovechkin?

Yeah, Alex. Watching him, you'd think that he would be a prima donna. That guy is a jokester. He lightens it up. The reason why the Capitals are doing so well is basically because the guy puts it in perspective. He's not bigger than anybody on that team, and he cares for the players in that locker room, which I got to see firsthand. "

That's also what makes Ovie so special as a teammate!

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | December 2, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin created this, now adding fuel by being defensive will only make matters worse.

He's in control, he could of been cordial & polite with the press, yet chose to be a first class jerk.

This stuff is normal in the other three, not hockey.

Ted, McPhee & BB are all part of the problem, not the solution.

Hopefully Ted will sell soon.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1,

Tarik asked, after about four short answers, if we were "only getting to get two-word answers today." To which Ovi replied, "Maybe."

Posted by: saintex | December 2, 2009 3:01 PM

Thanks. That reminds me of all the times mrstominfl1 asks why I'm not talking to her and I don't answer.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

That's an interesting piece on Gaborik, and I'm I huge fan of his game, but it's misleading at best. We are talking about a one shift difference in goal production but Gabs problems are injuries. If I could choose between the two - one who's missed eight games in his career (soon to be ten) - or a guy who isn't on the ice, not much of a question.

Of course, I'd like to have them both.

Posted by: saintex | December 2, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

@rjma1 - It's complicated.

The 41-game rule is for another boarding major. If he gets a boarding major in those 41 games, he is automatically suspended.

I did not hear the wording of today's suspension, so I don't know what was handed down besides the two games. I do expect that the 41-game rule for getting another boarding major is still in effect.


Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

The Caps fans are 100% behind you Ovi. You are the epitome of "Unleash the Fury!" You are the heart and soul of this team. GO CAPS and GO OVI!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

@LarryDavid - Go away.

Posted by: irockthered | December 2, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I hope you fans at the game Thursday night takes turns between the "We want Ovi" and "Campbell slurps" chants.

This is a unique opportunity for the fans to let Ovi know we are 100% behind him.

Chants, placards, whatever you can do.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin must get his first fighting major in order to regain respect, as of right now he's looked upon as a coward.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

no stay larrydavid, stay. your comments just remind me how glad i am to be sane.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

larrydavid, 12/02/06 v buffalo. look it up. facts are a beautiful thing.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Hmm LarryDavid--So you want further suspensions for him. I'm thinking you are indeed a 12 year old who's skipping school to taunt your elders on this board. I will take your youth and immaturity into account the next time you post. And skip right over it as you have nothing of value to add to this conversation.

BTW Tominfl1--we will be there chanting loudly Campbell s*&%s (I may even let m son use that word for the first time) and "WE WANT OVI". It's a great time for Capsland to UNITE!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

LarryDavid- you're a coward.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I think the suspension will just confirm in the minds of Ovie-haters that he's a dirty player which is what bothers him the most. I've always loved his style of play, but was bothered when he kneed Gonchar during last year's playoffs. He's now made himself a target and I wouldn't be surprised if Carolina sent a goon out after him when they play next.

It's not good for the sport when it's best player gets tossed 2 out of 3 games and is suspended for the next two.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 2, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm positive Ovie did something to larrydavid. lol!!

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

OV cares more about playing hockey than he does about being "cordial" to the press. God bless him for it. The fact that he has emotions proves he's passionate. don't you get tired of other athlete's cookie cutter responses to reporters? I won't mention names here, but I think we all know the perfect example of that one

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

LarryDavid- you're a coward.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 3:19 PM

No, he's a lieutenant colonel in the Doofus Brigade.

He even has a "cluster" medal but it doesn't have a gold leaf, I assure you.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

I've been reading these boards for some time now and have never previously commented. However, LarryDavid has done it -- he has caused me to chime in.
I agree with dcsportsfan1, LarryDavid should stay -- it livens things up. It's no too often that someone of his obvious gifted intellect weighs in here ;-).

Posted by: jagle | December 2, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I think even the Doofus Brigade would mutiny against the new colonel.

Unimpressed with Tarik's "2 word answers" question - seems like a good way to lose access to Ovi and possibly other players, and to get nominated to the Doofus Brigade.

Posted by: yosemite_sam | December 2, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

12/02/06

Hitting Briere from behind, then turtling to gaustad, real fight.

Yes, the box score shows it, reality is he turtled.

The preseason beating he took from Richards was a beauty, couple more like that and he'll start behaving.

I like ovechkin, just think he needs his but kicked.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Here's my question...

How does Ovie get two games for a dangerous hit (which I think was the right call) and Keith Ballard gets nothing for a malicious hit on his own teammate? I don't care that Ballard didn't mean it. Hockey players are responsible for their sticks no matter what. Failure to do so results in penalties, suspensions and fines. I don't think it should matter if if a player in an act of rage or anger accidentally hurts anyone on the ice. He needs to be reprimanded.

What if he had hit another player?

What if he had accidentally hit an official?

Vokoun is on his team, so that gets him off scott free?

Posted by: jmurray019 | December 2, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Please, Ovi, unleash your "Hell" on Crosby and Malkin! That is all I ask! Crosby beat up a defenseless guy's private jewels and did not get a suspension! Malkin instigated a fight in the last 2 minutes of the Stanley Cup and did not get suspended! All you did was "mis-timed" a hit and you get 2 GAMES!!!! This is a bunch of crock by the NHL!

Posted by: JohnWWW | December 2, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Ted, McPhee & BB are all part of the problem, not the solution.

Hopefully Ted will sell soon.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:04 PM |

Keep your troll-comments relevant.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

LarryDavid- you think anyone here believes you anymore? You don't like Ovechkin.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

12/02/06

Hitting Briere from behind, then turtling to gaustad, real fight.

Yes, the box score shows it, reality is he turtled.

The preseason beating he took from Richards was a beauty, couple more like that and he'll start behaving.

I like ovechkin, just think he needs his but kicked.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

i believe your comment was that he needs to take his first fighting major...which he did. and i wouldnt call what he did turtling. the guy jumped him (rightly so) and he didnt get a chance to drop his gloves.

why would ovie need his butt kicked? he gives as good as he takes. he's not some avery/briere-type who spears a guy and runs away. if someone wants to drop them with him, they are welcome to. fact is, everyone else on the ice will come to his defense in that case. ovie has played for over 5 years, you think if someone wanted to kick his butt, they would have tried already.

wow, i'm sure ovie's glad you like him since you called him a first class jerk.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

When are the other Caps going to stand up for OV and provide the grit and muscle this team so desperately needs. OV is taking charge because no one else wants to. Trading Brasheer and not replacing him with a banger was a big mistake. Our "defense" is already suspect at best; we have no one willing to park themselves in front of the goal on offense. Sorry Caps fans, but unless this team gets some muscle it is not going very far. Let's hope our GM wakes up and see its flaws. As for the Gordie Howe comparison, I can think of no greater player to be compared to. I hope OV realizes how much this city really loves him. Time for his teammates to step up.

Posted by: lgrimes299 | December 2, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

OV needs to focus now on his comeback! I hope he is able to use this situation as a motivator to play stronger than ever. I am a little concerned that sometimes when he is under pressure, he tries to force shots and plays.

Posted by: capscoach | December 2, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

@jmurray and JohnWWWW

Come on now...you're both stretching here for no reason.

Tt's done, lets move on.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Gleason had the puck and he beat Ovechkin, that resulted in Ovechkin sticking out his leg.

You people are out of your mind thinking anything else, Ovechkin was beat by the guy with the puck and he tried to catch him by sticking his leg out.

Absolutely stupid trying to defend his actions.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Our "defense" is already suspect at best; we have no one willing to park themselves in front of the goal on offense.
Posted by: lgrimes299
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Dude, have you watched a game this season?

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely stupid trying to defend his actions.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:40 PM |

It is.

Almost as stupid as making up broad generalizations and using this as an excuse to tear down Caps management. You know a thing or two about stupidity, I'd assume.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

sorry, but OV needs to learn how to handle the bad publicity a little better. he could do a much better job of handling the limelight when it is not MVP trophies.

Posted by: doughless | December 2, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I thought the suspension was harsh, but I wasn't thrilled by Ovechkin's comments in this. The part that bothered me was that he said Coach Boudreau talking to him about his style would only make him more angry. That sounded a little adolescent to me -- hope it was a joke.

Safety is huge, but Ovie fires that team up so much, I appreciate his volatility. They were sleep-walking through that game until Ovie got on the ice and started making things happen.

Posted by: Kalnel | December 2, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Dude, have you watched a game this season?

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 3:41 PM |

Last year's status quo complaint.

He didn't get the memo.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Dude, have you watched a game this season?

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 3:41 PM |

Last year's status quo complaint.

He didn't get the memo.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse
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Yeppers, didn't mean to sound harsh with that but the D seems to be improving quite a bit IMO and the apparent Knubs influence on Laich and Fehr has helped with screening and deflections noticeably.

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Ted, McPhee & BB are all part of the problem, not the solution.

Hopefully Ted will sell soon.

Posted by: LarryDavid

I think YOU are out of your mind. Interesting that you're saying what other people are saying is stupid and you wrote that about Ted, BB, and GMGM.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"Gleason had the puck and he beat Ovechkin, that resulted in Ovechkin sticking out his leg."

Yes, Gleason did make a quick cut to the inside to beat Ovechkin, and yes, I believe that Ovechkin should have tried (if possible) to let up at that point. However, Ovechkin absolutely did not stick his leg out at this point. His legs were already in a wide stance in preparation to hit Gleason. If anything, if you watch the slo-mo replay with an unbiased view, you will see that Ovechkin actually attempted to pull his leg in at the last moment, which as far as I can recall, is the opposite of sticking his leg out.

Posted by: jagle | December 2, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Ted, McPhee & BB are all part of the problem, not the solution.

Hopefully Ted will sell soon.

Posted by: LarryDavid

I think YOU are out of your mind. Interesting that you're saying what other people are saying is stupid and you wrote that about Ted, BB, and GMGM.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

now rachel, lets be fair. if the "problem" larry is talking about is owning, managing and coaching a team to first place in the conference despite injuries and supensions, selling out an arena and being on anyone with any hockey knowledge short list of stanley cup contenders this year and beyond, then larry is correct. ted, gm and BB are all part of the problem.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Hi - Have only posted here a couple of times but read your interesting posts often. That said, after these past couple of frustrating days as a Caps fan and as an Ovi fan, I guess I finally feel okay to weigh in here. First, not a fan at all of Tarik's work (sorry, but do not mean it to be personal at all). To me, as reflected in his product - be it the written or spoken word - I never see a hockey fan in Tarik. Just a reporter doing his job. Could be wrong.

This said, the heading for this latest entry was misleading and the interview was horrible. To me, he sounds almost like he's taunting Ovi towards the end of their time. And no, Ovi's not happy. He has a very expressive face and wears his heart there. Even though Ovi tries initially to give more and he offers a familiar but brief defiant smile, his eyes seem to almost be pleading with Tarik to give it a rest. Then, as Tarik persists, you can see him just shut the door. I know he knows it's business and that he's a public figure and that Tarik's not really his friend but that doesn't make it any less squirmable to watch. I guess Tarik sees himself as fulfulling the role of ruthless journalist. Digging deep and getting to the heart of the story/victim. Don't know.

All I know is that Ovi didn't commit any criminal acts here or before on any other occasion. He actively participated in a hockey game, which is his life's work and calling. The media has been waiting a while for this opportunity to really skewer Ovi, for whatever various and sundry reason. Some may say that he did it to himself; some may not. I do not.

Ovechkin's the best thing hockey has seen in a long while. Ironically, he's currently being tarred and feathered for the very things that people have said that they love about him (even when they say they don't, they do and wouldn't hesitate to defend him if he was on their team). Chalk it up to bright lights attracting all kinds of creatures. I can only hope that someone will be able to give him guidance on how to move on and continue to just be Ovi.

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. I know it's an internet comment site and anything goes but nothing matters but it still felt good.
GO CAPS!!! OVI! OVI! OVI!!

Posted by: nena1 | December 2, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

If it was so sensibly explained, then why the 2 games.

Bottom line, Ovechkin initiated body contact and was beat, don't grasp at anything else.

It's been 4 years coming, he now has a target on him, Mcfee had better get him some protection, otherwise he's finished.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

@Nena1.

Bingo. We have a winner.

Well said.

Posted by: saintex | December 2, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

If it was so sensibly explained, then why the 2 games.

Bottom line, Ovechkin initiated body contact and was beat, don't grasp at anything else.

It's been 4 years coming, he now has a target on him, Mcfee had better get him some protection, otherwise he's finished.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

i dont see anyone respond to your post by saying a suspension wasn't warranted. they simply objected to your assertion that he stuck his leg out. which is factually incorrect. i'm beginning to think you have reading comprehension issues, larry.

ovie has had a target on him for five years because he's a dominant player who hits. brash or not, nobody has come after him. you know why, because most players not named crosby have respect for the way he plays the game. he's crossed the line like most aggressive players have. read brad may's comments on tsn.ca for a good view of how players feel about him. or just pretend you know what NHL players think.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Tarik is kinda like Mike Green -- vastly underappreciated by the average Caps fans.

Posted by: Jumpy66 | December 2, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

addendum: I like TeB so my review is more based on what nena1 said about Ovi.

Posted by: saintex | December 2, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

" Mcfee had better get him some protection, otherwise he's finished."

Seriously dude- we got Matt Bradl... err... Ovi can take care of himself.

I kid because I love #10.

Posted by: Fro_ | December 2, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

In a perverse way, it's probably the best thing that could happen to Ovie. I thought he came back too soon from the shoulder injury, and it showed in his play -- including the reckless assaults on the other players. Hopefully, Ovie uses this time off to gather himself up and get ready to go hard for the rest of the season. LETS GO CAPS!~

Posted by: Vic1 | December 2, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Fro_ you are now responsible for my laugh out loud moment of the day.

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

@ saintex: Thanks.

Also, I simply don't like Tarik's journalistic style. I do not know the man. I apologize if my attempt at explaining this was a failure. What I do very much appreciate is the fact that he seems to be a hard worker as we fans seem to consistently get timely info.

Yes, and I also very much appreciate Greenie. Just because he sometimes acts like a dude-man-dude doesn't make any difference to me. His talent knows no bounds.

Finally, my fan-love for the Caps and hockey in general has held steady at 100 percent, 100 percent of the time for a 100 percent of as far back as I can remember. Higher than average. :)

Posted by: nena1 | December 2, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Perfect that this guy would name himself Larry David, who is one of the most obnoxious, inept, and clueless characters on TV. He certainly lives up to his namesake.

Posted by: capsfan77 | December 2, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if Green has finalized the purchase of Camelot ?

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Why are so many of you paying any attention to the d-bag Pens fan? He is clearly enjoying the attention.

Posted by: zmega | December 2, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Nena1 is m new favorite person!!! GO CAPS!!! GO OVIE!!! ROCK THE RED!!!!

Posted by: capscoach | December 2, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Fro: You are talking about the BRADLEY FIGHTING VEHICLE there.

Takes a stitching and keeps on ticking.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

@irockthered: 1) The flowchart is excellent/hilarious, thanks for posting. 2) Excellent perception. I tried to present the rules in an unbiased fashion without specifying how I would have called the penalty. 3) You seem to have a good grasp at interpreting the rules. Ever thought of becoming a ref? Can you skate?

fanohock1: 1) No problem with the return jab. 2) Yes, there can be a conflict of interest when a ref calls a game which has a player who is also a ref. 3) Speaking of homer, I ref'ed a game in Frederick. At the conclusion of the game the opposing coach told me and my partner that we were the biggest homies he had ever seen. We had a bit of a laugh in the ref. locker room. Frederick is not our home rink. We had absolutely no bias whatsoever. 4) BTW, USA hockey guidance is that youth refs should ref. games below their age level. It isn't in the rule book, but it says it somewhere. So, a U18 player can ref. U16 and below (bantams etc.), but shouldn't ref. a U18 game.

@jmurray019: Because the rules state that high sticking infractions are incurred as the result of contact with an opponent. It specifically says opponent.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | December 2, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey our old pal sidney has weighed in on ovie's hit. *spoiler alert* he's not a fan.

" it was a bad hit.". Indeed it was cause ovie was facing Gleason and didn't hit him from behind.

"you can't judge a guy on one hit.". Good thing, otherwise we'd think you were just a $ack punching wuss and not a jump a guy on the faceoff tough guy AND a $ack punching wuss.

"some guys see suspensions as something to learn from. Other guys brush it off and do it again.". And some guys whine about much less.

Thanks sid

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, I see no point in trying to refute Larry. In his mind, he is always right, and he will modify his own previous words and assertions in order to make sure of his correctness. It must be nice to always be right.
Oh, and one last thing... last I checked initiating contact was a part of hockey, and I believe I did say Ovechkin was beat on the play. And yes, he did deserve a penalty on the play.
And here is my prediction as to Larry's next response...
"Face it, Ovechkin was in Raliegh that night, hence, he deserverd a game misconduct, and he needs to drop his gloves to prove his toughness."

Posted by: jagle | December 2, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Had Ovie used a hip check this all wouldn't be necessary. Brian Pothier should give him lessons.

Posted by: CapCenter105 | December 2, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

So now Ovechkin gets to join the list of guys like Denis Potvin and Glenn Anderson that took the body as well as score goals and help their teams to the postseason.

So, what?

There are far dirtier players in the NHL, guys that game in and game out are only in the league to cause injury.

And the NHL suspends them for a couple of games here and there but generally allows them to get away with a lot of cheap shots.

Just look at Sean Avery and Bertuzzi.

These guys can't make it through a 60 minute game without chopping an opponent and yet they are still in the NHL.

Posted by: leopard09 | December 2, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if Green has finalized the purchase of Camelot ?

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

have you seen him there?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

ANGRY!? What is this a tabloid newspaper?

LOL. And yes Tarik, ask questions that required only a one word reply and that is what you will get.

Posted by: hock1 | December 2, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

For what its worth, Tarik has noted that he grew up playing hockey, in the area no less. Take it for what its worth, I don't exactly have his career stats or anything in front of my face ... but from what I know, the view of him as a hockey 'outsider' is pretty off.

Second, not sure what you are really looking for ... he is a beat reporter, not blogger or color guy. If you don't see the 'fan' in him shine through, I take it he'd see it as a sign he is doing his job the right way. I for one am of the view that is doing just that.

Posted by: terrapin2930 | December 2, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is different from any other player in the league in one way.

He deliberately hunts, something no other player does as blatantly as Ovechkin.

He has skated end to end on numerous occasions just to attack one particular guy, this can't be ignored and is the root of the problem with Ovechkin.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that doesnt think they like Tarik's style, go try and get this many updates about another team.

It doesnt exists.

Posted by: SA-Town | December 2, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Tarik may be one of the hardest working guys in hockey journalism. He uses the blog format to provide some of the most substantive content updates I've been able to find anywhere. And it seems to me that he enjoys his job, which makes reading his blog all that more fun.

Posted by: Jumpy66 | December 2, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

jagle: Why bother even TRYING to refute LarryDavid, er, Lt. Col. LarryDavid?

He's just doing his job.

Let's look at his assignment - CO of the 1st Battalion, which includes:

Oscar Company (mechanized - Ovechkin bashing)
Sugar Company (infantry - Semin bashing)
George Company (Green bashing - latrine duty, which is why he mentioned Camelot)

So, he has three targets for which he must attack. Then, you'll notice, he is also striking out at GMGM and BB, which is long-range artillery that comes out of Brigade HQ.

For Lt Col LarryDavid, failure to carry forth on his mission would be dereliction of duty.

Just sit back, relax, and wait for Ovi to counterattack.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is different from any other player in the league in one way.

He deliberately hunts, something no other player does as blatantly as Ovechkin.

He has skated end to end on numerous occasions just to attack one particular guy, this can't be ignored and is the root of the problem with Ovechkin.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

name on occassion where he has "skated end to end" just to attack another player. better yet, link the youtube video.

while you are at it, name one player besides heward ovie has "hunted down" who has missed more than a few shifts during a game. if he's hunted players down numerous times, then there must be a long list of injured players he's left in his wake.

btw, hockey is still a contact sport. if ovie wants to "hunt someone down" he's free to do so, just like the blue jackets did to him. he just needs to stay within the rules, which he does most of the time. how he's managed to score 50 plus goals a season while hunting players down end to end is truely amazing.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Nena - I believe TEB is a fan and also a player in a league if I'm not mistaken.

I think the criticism of TEB is unwarranted...my reasoning is that he is at the rink daily and games nightly. This goes on for 6 plus months. He is a reporter AND he is the Blog runner so he is constantly pushing out info to us. You can nitpick all you want, its your right, but my opinion is that he does a very good job and keeps me well informed.

I wonder if you would put yorself out there daily so that hundreds if not thousands of readers could pick at you.
Scrutiny is part of the job and I don't think your being vindictive - I'm sure he doesn't need me standing up for him but I appreciate his work.

Posted by: jeets | December 2, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that doesnt think they like Tarik's style, go try and get this many updates about another team.

It doesnt exists.

Posted by: SA-Town

we can thank katie and lindsay too - lately its been just lindsay though

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

TEB does good work overall.

He failed miserably in holding Mcfee accountable for never addressing defense and for Nylander situation, otherwise the guy has done his job.

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Some of you folks are falling for Col LarryDavid's diversionary attacks. He is deliberately probing your ranks so that you come out in the open, exposed. This then merely allows him to charge out from under his bridge and strike at you like a snake.

You must understand he's on the senior staff of the Doofus Brigade and it was years of hard work that got him there.

As the Capital Defense Force, you folks should be under the following orders: Don't shoot until you can see his little, beady eyes.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey our old pal sidney has weighed in on ovie's hit. *spoiler alert* he's not a fan.

" it was a bad hit.". Indeed it was cause ovie was facing Gleason and didn't hit him from behind.

"you can't judge a guy on one hit.". Good thing, otherwise we'd think you were just a $ack punching wuss and not a jump a guy on the faceoff tough guy AND a $ack punching wuss.

"some guys see suspensions as something to learn from. Other guys brush it off and do it again.". And some guys whine about much less.

Thanks sid

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 4:43 PM

Someone should have told Sid that "I don't have all the details so I have no comment." would have been sufficient.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Ovie's acting like a spoiled little child, and someone took away or is trying to take away his shiny toy.

WAAAAAAAHHHH

what a spoiled, petulant little brat. face of the NHL my a$$

Posted by: puckheaded1 | December 2, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Ovie's acting like a spoiled little child, and someone took away or is trying to take away his shiny toy.

WAAAAAAAHHHH

what a spoiled, petulant little brat. face of the NHL my a$$

posted by: puckheaded1

All you gotta do is insert Cindy Crosby where Ovie's name is!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I just read on NHL.com that Ovi and former President George Bush (the elder) conferred this afternoon and that Ovi says Mr. Bush convinced him to be a kinder and gentler hockey player. We'll see what that means. I doubt the opposing players are convinced.

Posted by: rjma1 | December 2, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Tarik does a fine job. I have emailed him in the past and he has been very responsive. Moreover, he is a reporter, not a Caps employee. He does seem to be there every day giving us updates, sometimes hourly. I appreciate that.

Hey, I am just glad they have not given him to Thinskins coverage!

He did skate here at Fort DuPont in his youth, if I recollect correctly. It is a home rink for our sons' club with valuable programs for community youth. Check it out if you want to help youth hockey in our area.

Posted by: Steakum | December 2, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

ohh, apparently per corey, brooks orpik has some comments about ovie's hit in tomorrow's paper. i'm presuming he means the times which means there's no guaranty that the paper will even be around tomorrow.

can't wait to hear what orpik has to say. should be really relevant, insightful, and not the least bit hypocritical....

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

@Nena1 -- I also thought the interview was squirm-worthy to watch. I particularly disliked the question along the lines of "Ovi, you've said you're not changing the way you play, but your coach said he was going to talk to you" (presumably to suggest you should). I wouldn't blame Ovi for feeling like this was a double-bind, or at least an attempt ( whether intentional or not) to "lead the witness". His answers got a lot shorter after that question was posed.

Posted by: miseaujeu | December 2, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

@rachel316

well you can't take Crosby's name off the Cup and put Ovie's name there, now can you

Posted by: puckheaded1 | December 2, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

NY Times may not be around tomorrow, also LA Times has issues. so sad

Posted by: LarryDavid | December 2, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

puckheaded1 must be in ROTC shooting for a spot in Oscar company when he is finally old enough

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

larry, where's my list?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

ohh, apparently per corey, brooks orpik has some comments about ovie's hit in tomorrow's paper. i'm presuming he means the times which means there's no guaranty that the paper will even be around tomorrow.

can't wait to hear what orpik has to say. should be really relevant, insightful, and not the least bit hypocritical....

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 5:19 PM

Brooks Orpik?!!!! Maybe they'd like to have Matt Cooke weigh in too! lol!

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

No you're right. But that's not what you were talking about. Don't act like Crosby has never acted like a spoiled little brat, he acts like that A LOT more than Ovechkin.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that doesnt think they like Tarik's style, go try and get this many updates about another team.

It doesnt exists.

Posted by: SA-Town

Whether anyone likes or dislikes Tarik's as a reporter is their business, he is what he is and that is all we got here.

But I disagree with SA-Town. I think Jason Reid and Michael Lee do a better job reporting for their respective teams.

Posted by: hock1 | December 2, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Ovi's made enough $$ already to live comfortably the rest of his life - in Russia. Wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Federov and heads home. Why put up with Bettman's bs and being told how he's gonna play, not to mention the $100k fines? Not his style. The NHL has a good thing going but as usual will find a way to screw it up.

Posted by: letsgocaps1 | December 2, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Capt Kirk: I wouldn't doubt there are Don Cherry posters on puckheaded1's bedroom wall. He's obviously trying hard to impress Lt Col David and get pushed right up to a platoon command assignment.

puckheaded1 is just dreaming of the day he gets his commission and even more when he can slip into the Don Cherry sport coat and beret.

He has espoused cindy love and doubtless wears #87 deep ruby-red lipstick as part of the outfit. I also wouldn't doubt he takes the Lemieux mansion tour whenever possible and lingers as long as he can in the basement.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

When did the Geek Squad start posting about the Caps ?

Posted by: Cheef | December 2, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

letsgocaps1

Thats the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. OV is going nowhere soon. I you thin some pesky reporters and Crysby fans will deter him from the game he loves, then u obviously know nothing about him! He is in it 2 win it.

Posted by: capscoach | December 2, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

you know i apreciate what tarik does and all but sometimes he doesnt know when to stop.I know its his job to ask questions but cant he tell when someone has had enough of an interview.Its not just this time,it seems he does it all the time.all others ask there quetions and go while its one after another of the same kind of questions with Tar. and then even more of the same.Dont get me wrong,i like the posts and the blogs and enjoy writing on these threads but the dude just doesnt seem to know when to stop it kinda seems like it pisses BB,OVI,or whoever off.maybe im wrong but i just wanted to see point that out.GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 2, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Ovi has always gone way out of his way to be accommodating to the media, way out of his way. He also says he's an emotional guy and he's not gonna pretend to be something he's not. If he's mad, he's gonna show it

Posted by: dfe1 | December 2, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Although,thanks for the videos and updates tarik! Glad to hear ovi will still be ovi and all this is doin is pissin him off.Dont change a thing OVI!Keep on keepin on!GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 2, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I heard the knee is in fact damaged and that he is skating with a brace.

TEB could confirm this if he wanted to.

May explain the look on his face, possibly only way he gets to play in Pics

Posted by: Cheef | December 2, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Cheef - And you heard this where?

Posted by: gonchpup | December 2, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

Re: Ovie Hat Trick

Ovechkin did an interview (I think PuckDaddy posted it) this summer about sex before the game. To make a long story short, an Ovie hat trick is when he scores before the game, during the game, and after the game...

Posted by: RedLitYogi | December 2, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

And I'd also like to add that Ovi isn't going to say, well, I'm going to play more cautious now. Part of what makes Ovi, Ovi is that other players are scared of him. If they think he's going to play differently, then they're gonna try to take advantage.

Posted by: dfe1 | December 2, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I heard the knee is in fact damaged and that he is skating with a brace.

TEB could confirm this if he wanted to.

May explain the look on his face, possibly only way he gets to play in Pics

Posted by: Cheef | December 2, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

makes total sense...you sure wouldn't be able to tell he's wearing a brace at practice. And putting youself out on the ice with a bum knee is a great way to prep for the olympics. I'm pretty sure the team would permit him to skate if the knee was damaged considering it's only December and not April. Totally logical statement cheef. Welcome back. How many wins in a row till you disappear again?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

If Doc tells him the damage is done, Ovechkin can decide if he wants to try it with a brace, would explain the look he's giving TEB, since he probably knows exactly what's going on.

One of the peasants told me last night

Posted by: Cheef | December 2, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Doofus Brigade is certainly represented tonight.

We have:

Cheef, full bird, colonel, CO of the brigade; Lt Col LarryDavid, CO of the 1st Battalion; and Lt puckheaded1, platoon leader.

Cheef: So where's Major Windjammer? You got him assigned deep undercover?

All it takes is one piece of road kill to get all the vultures circling.

Speaking of circling, a Nylander update would be appreciated.

Members of the Capital Defense Force: we have spotted Col Cheef. Snipers to position.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

You sound stupid when you say that. He has a week off anyway with the suspension...he wouldn't be on the ice if it weren't good for him.

Posted by: capscoach | December 2, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

You will see, he takes days off all the time when he's healthy, now with 2 games off and a "sore" knee he's on the ice.

You sound real smart.

Posted by: Cheef | December 2, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

After watching the interview and reading through some of the posts I most agree with, "Chalk it up to bright lights attracting all kinds of creatures." I really like that reader's comments.

Ovechkin does seem to be wearing his emotions on his sleeve during the interview. His obvious emotions also really caused me to find the heading completely misleading. He didn't seem angry. He seemed weary and making a consistent effort to uphold his own sense of confidence despite the media glare. His eyes, at one point seem near fearful, then it's as if he catches himself, and turns his gaze to outward weary as if to say, "I know what you are trying to do." I thought the final question to be condescending. There is only so much for him to say and he's only allowed to say so much.

Also, one thing I've noticed before any of this is that the kid has a really likeable personality. At least I find his personality to not only be likeable, but also a powerful one. He is always himself.

One thing that is of worry, is how politically innocent he seems. I don't believe he realized what it means to be the best. It is lonely and the waters will be soon to fill with sharks waiting for blood. People are going to be overcritical of him from this point on. He has so many gifts at the age of twenty four that other people will live their lives without ever obtaining.

Posted by: anon94 | December 2, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I heard the knee is in fact damaged and that he is skating with a brace.

TEB could confirm this if he wanted to.If Doc tells him the damage is done, Ovechkin can decide if he wants to try it with a brace, would explain the look he's giving TEB, since he probably knows exactly what's going on.

One of the peasants told me last night

Posted by: Cheef | December 2, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

if the doc says his knee is "damaged" then he doesn't get on the ice. The doc may suggest he wears abrace to help the healing process, which is possible. Sure didn't look like it from the pics a saw. Tarik would have no reasonto not report on that if he saw it. Nice try cheef.

May explain the look on his face, possibly only way he gets to play in Pics

Posted by: Cheef | December 2, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

makes total sense...you sure wouldn't be able to tell he's wearing a brace at practice. And putting youself out on the ice with a bum knee is a great way to prep for the olympics. I'm pretty sure the team would permit him to skate if the knee was damaged considering it's only December and not April. Totally logical statement cheef. Welcome back. How many wins in a row till you disappear again?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 2, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1:
i think windjammer only qualifies as a company clerk

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Be careful with LarryDavid. It is clear to me now that he is a teenager or younger. Yes he is obnoxious (why else would he pick a name from an obnoxious, self-centered, adolescent-minded character from an HBO series?) But he is a kid and you don't want to be too harsh on him or his self-steem may suffer. In time, he will grow out of this awkward phase. Remember that you are the adults here and have some compassion, okay?

Posted by: caraveli | December 2, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

sounds like an adult to me, which makes it even worse, that an adult would act that way...

Posted by: rachel216 | December 2, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

caraveli:
LarryDavid is a lifer in the Doofus Brigade. the only difference with this outfit is that when someone goes AWOL - nobody looks for them

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

We all know that the best way to deal with the"LarryDavid" types is to not offer any response. Just let it go and they will follow... (probably a bit pissed off, too)!

Posted by: gonchpup | December 2, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Treat it like the annoying guy at work... pretend to do something else until he goes away?

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I chose venture on to this board and so will finish what I started. While the efforts above are valiant and certainly valid, nothing has changed or likely will change my opinion about Tarik. I've already said that I do think that he's hardworking and timely. I'm glad that he has a lot of hockey cred - as I'm sure a lot of you do. We all have something in common. Nice! I'm glad he's a nice person, too. Excellent! I'm really not trying to be unfair to Tarik but I can have an opinion - and do. Doesn't mean that I have to go elsewhere for my hockey news. I probably don't need to nor do I want to bring it up here again, though.

For what it's worth, he was just on Wash Po Live and rolled out the now overly-familiar commentary on the now overly-familiar variety of snapshot views of the collision, stating unequivocally that Ovi did indeed stick his leg out (in the naughty way, not in the accidental way), as seen from the overhead shot. Case closed - and BB needs to address it with him too. It would seem to me that, as a skater at the very least, Tarik would understand the mechanics of turning. It would also seem to me that, as one who has seen Ovi's skating stance probably in his sleep, he would recognize the familiar, dynamic crouching position of #8. (off topic but it's almost eery seeing Perreault skate in this fashion as well - MicrOvechkin!)

That, though, really wasn't the only or even main reason for me posting originally. Just am confused about the vitriolic and somewhat malicious nature of people's comments about Ovi. It's almost like people snarl his name now. Ovi's not getting a lot of support (except from some teammates - old man Brooksie in particular and Brad May). It would help if the people around Ovi would at least show some discretion: Ovi's "reckless" - Boudreau; Ovi's "angry" - Tarik. I'm just astounded, though shouldn't be, at the quick-fire way that these little soundbites can become a person's instant indictment. Very disturbing.

Anyway, I so very much hope, as most of you all do too, that his knee's going to really and truly feel better by next week (I also hope that Gleason's knee/leg is not an issue for him). It certainly sucks when a body hurts anywhere where it bends -and you also have to play hockey! 'Nuff said. Thanks everyone and take good care!

GO CAPS!! OVI! OVI! OVI!! (-you'll be okay)

Posted by: nena1 | December 2, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I saw Ovi at practice today and the right knee did not appear any bulkier than the left knee. There was no outside brace. He could have been wearing a compression type wrap under his shin pad, but there was nothing structural to be observed.

Posted by: Steakum | December 2, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

in the words of the great jerry garcia "We used to play for silver
Now we play for life
One's for sport and one's for blood
At the point of a knife
Now the die is shaken
Now the die must fall
There ain't a winner in this game
Who don't go home with all
Not with all... jack straw from wichita..." miss you jerry.go caps!!!


Posted by: gratefuldid | December 2, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

nena1 - Very well put. I agree with 99%. The only difference is I don't think Bruce meant any harm in his "reckless" comment. I think it was his way of saying Ovie goes hard all the time and was trying to find a word to displace those using the word "dirty" to describe his play.

Posted by: gonchpup | December 2, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

@Nena1.

Bingo. We have a winner.

Well said.

Posted by: saintex

AGREED! Well said indeed. Please comment more. Now I'll finish reading as I see you have indeed commented more.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1--ha ha ha--keep diverting us with LarryDavid's many duties in the brigade. And BTW LarryDAvid I am still skipping over your nonsensical posts but I sure enjoy Caps fans snarky rejoinders. I'm thinking you must be younger than 12 at this point.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Steakum: Excellent reconnaisance.

Let us step back for a moment and dissect this worthy adversary, Col Cheef, and note the forces at his disposal and the tactics he employs:

Brigade HQ includes undercover operations (the Doofy Dozen), special artillery (the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz) and the demolition experts that want to blow up the whole team.

1st Battalion under Lt Col LarryDavid has the Ovi, Green and Semin bashers.
2nd Battalion is composed of trolls.
3rd Battalion is composed of medium range artillery.

The concept, developed by Cheef, is quite profound. First he uses the flying monkeys (special ops) who can actually bombard GMGM in the past. Yes, they can do that. You will know when they are doing this when they site events such as the Cassidy hiring, the failure of the 2005 draft and the signing of Nylander to a NMC.

With Caps fans softened up, Cheef will send LarryDavid and the basher battalion to strike at our favorite players. Notice how many devout fans such as Rachel216 come charging out in dfense of the players. Ahhh, but you are playing into Cheef's nimble hands. Notice next, with the devout fans exposed on the battlefield, Col Cheef will unleash 2nd Battalion, the trolls, and have them attack from under the bridge. Then, with the devout fans in retreat, the esteemed colonel will deploy 3rd Battalion to strike with medium range mortars and guns. The good fans can often be left scrambling for cover.

But just as Lenin proclaimed the Communist Party to be the Vanguard of the Proletariat, let tominfl1 proclaim that the stalward Caps fans of this blog are the Vanguard of Cap Nation.

Fear not and rejoice - Ovi, our El Cid, will rise and destroy the enemy.

Meanwhile, I just lost the Sunshine Ch feed of Tampa-Boston. I hope that doesn't mean those tornado warnings are for real.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

@nena1

I wrote my rantings about TEB before i even read any of this thread so i'm just glad to hear other people notice and feel the same as me.And i totally agree with everything you said also about ovi.He is who he is and thats brilliant and people should rally and support him.Hes not the greatest for being a wimp!GO OVI,GO CAPS!

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 2, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

This is offtopic but I rushed home to watch the game only to find my Direct TV feed of CSNDC saying I don't have the channel purchased. Lucky for me the game is tomorrow, but I was hoping someone else out there could check their Direct TV box and see if they're getting the same thing. I'm just curious if the Wizards game is blacked out for some reason

Posted by: Disagreer | December 2, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

@ anon94, gonchpup and capsyoungguns - Hi and also, thanks!

@ anon94 - Very good comments. I agree with you about Ovi's likeable and powerful personality as well as his bit of innocence when it comes to certain things. It's like, in this day and age, people just shrug and say: 'Oh well, too bad. He asked for it by being so good. That's what he gets.' I still feel like it's kind of more than okay to show people of all walks and abilities consideration and respect. Ovi's included here.

@ gonchpup - I absolutely agree with you. No harm meant by Coach BB but other people certainly ran with it and not in a good way. Have to be mindful not to give the whipped-up, irrational hoards too much- if any! - ammunition. ;)

Posted by: nena1 | December 2, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

And @ gratefuldid - Right with you on everything you said!

Posted by: nena1 | December 2, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

If Doc tells him the damage is done, Ovechkin can decide if he wants to try it with a brace, would explain the look he's giving TEB, since he probably knows exactly what's going on.

One of the peasants told me last night

Posted by: Cheef

You are like that old gossipy neighbor that no one likes and no one talks to. Love how the vultures pretend to know information. You are hereby as tominfl1 has noted part of the Doofus Brigade. Latrine duty for lying!!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Овечкин - великий 8

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

nena1 - I can't help but wonder if Ovie feels like he was kind of abandoned by some of his fans on this one. He loves this town and the way he has been embraced (so far), and hopefully, he hasn't read or heard too much in the way of the criticism directed his way.

Posted by: gonchpup | December 2, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

if Tarik said OV stuck his leg out he's wrong-- an overhead vantage point wouldn't show anything different from YouTube...

its clear OV came in ready for a legal hit-- which he makes some 800 times a year-- with his skates solid beneath him, slightly wider than his shoulders, and came in with that position from 15-20 feet out. Gleason tried to go around him, and OV leaned towards him with his shoulders-- he led with his shoulders... he did not stick his leg out at any point from where it had been coming in. look at Laraque's hit, its the opposite, totally obvious that he stuck his leg out from his stride intentionally, to get him with the leg.

exact same situation with Gonchar last year. its all on YouTube, clear for all to see.

OV is definitely not dirty, never has that intent, he's got 2-4 headhunters coming after him very game (ask Hitchcock), and he's the league's most effective and most prolific hitter, a basic component of the game.

the suspension is PR, and not based on video evidence

Posted by: capsfan7 | December 2, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Nena1: I agree about BB's ill-timed pronouncement about Ovie being "reckless." I know he didn't mean to do anything harmful. He was his usual blunt self when he doesn't mince words to criticize players. However, in this politically charged and highly public situation, such comments can be taken out of context and used by the Ovie bashers and others with vested interests. What I found particularly unfortunate was the term "reckless." I think he used it to imply that Ovie is a player who throws himself into a game without regard for his personal safety, but the term implies irresponsibility, being a diva and all those bad things Ovie is accused of, completely unfairly. He should never ever use that term to describe Ovie. It has been co-opted and flashed across media publications as if it were Ovie's nickname--which it might become.

Hopefully, Ovie will just continue to make his case through his talent, as he always has.

Posted by: caraveli | December 2, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1
You crack me up! It's sounding more and more like a Monty Python movie.

I respect that people can have strong opinions about all sorts of things and people -- Ovi's hit, Tarik, Semin, GMGM, BB, etc. However, I am so TIRED of the complaining! And now I'm complaining about complaining!

Do people remember a few years ago around here? We have a grand team to root for! If I would be a better coach, GM, or player than what we have, maybe I WOULD be. I'm not. Are any of you?

This often appears to be a classic case of "you don't know what you don't know."

Posted by: Steakum | December 2, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Овечкин - великий 8

Posted by: hessone

Овечкин - великий 8 = Ovechkin - the great 8

спасибо - Мне нравятся эти

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Also, one thing I've noticed before any of this is that the kid has a really likeable personality. At least I find his personality to not only be likeable, but also a powerful one. He is always himself.

One thing that is of worry, is how politically innocent he seems. I don't believe he realized what it means to be the best. It is lonely and the waters will be soon to fill with sharks waiting for blood. People are going to be overcritical of him from this point on. He has so many gifts at the age of twenty four that other people will live their lives without ever obtaining.

Posted by: anon94

You have put into words beautifully what I feel about Ovi. i have always enjoyed Ovi's interactions with the press. He's so funny, droll, and refreshingly honest in interviews interspersed with a sharp and lively wit. So few athletes are as brilliant as he is, both physically and intellectually.

I personally found this video disturbing. It showed our Ovi weary and frustrated. How can he change the very essence of his being, to play all out with pure passion for the game of hockey. To demonstrate the joy he has in playing this simple game.

He knows that the reporters even Tarik are out for blood (that is after all a reporters job), and he knows that he has to respond but not give them more fuel to the fire.

The flash of the old Ovi--the fleeting smile when he said angry--is still evident . Yet our Tarik uses the word angry in a misleading context as the header for his article. I have liked Tarik's and Lindsay et al providing us with so much Caps coverage, but I was very disappointed in how he covered Ovi today. Very disappointed indeed.

I am proud of Ovi. He has courage and honesty both on ice and off--especially now to speak with the reporters when his emotions are raw and still remain in control. He is the epitome of a sublime athlete and an honorable person. He is the kind of athlete I want my son to admire and emulate.

I am proud to call Ovi a Washington Capital. I am proud that he is the very heart of this team. I am proud to call him our own.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Овечкин - великий 8

Posted by: hessone

Овечкин - великий 8 = Ovechkin - the great 8

спасибо - Мне нравятся эти = Thank you - I like these.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

Вы можете мой друг.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

steakum: For once, I am serious. Do you ever read the diatribe on the political blogs.

Someone posts: "The sky is blue."

Then the zealots on either end of the political spectrum begin accusing each other over what shade of blue, and who caused that shade, and what shade it would be otherwise, and whether or not we have global shading, etc. Amazing. The vast majority of Americans, meanwhile, just want to go to work and do their jobs and somehow navigate traffic to get home before some God-awful hour and relax for 60 secs or maybe 90 before they fall asleep in some half-prone position with some activity partially completed.

Meanwhile here we are fully engaged in the Caps with 90% supporting the team and at least 90% of that figure objective in their opinion. OK, so maybe with Ovi suspension, maybe not 90% objective.

Honestly, compared to the normal amount of complaining in regular life, the complaining here is negligible. You must remember that in a free and democratic state it is the gripers who will mostly express their opinion. Why should a happy and satisfied person speak out?

I have just drained the last glass of the Anakena (Chile) 2008 sauvignon blanc that I opened with the broiled cod. Having used the sharp edge from my political philosophy degree and the empirical knowledge from my 30 years in Aerospace, to help thwart the enemies of the Cap Nation, I can rest easy and pour a shot of tequila perhaps in order that I might wind down from a day of billion-dollar finance and Caps blog combativeness to relax easy in my ample bedroom and prepare for battle anew on the morrow.

Enemies at work and the blog take note: I fight hard and die even harder. Just like my hero, Alexander Ovechkin.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

gonchpup - Was thinking about that earlier today as well. Just speculative, subjective wondering really. Even the closest person to Ovi might not know how he feels about this. But, I know that I feel like some fans abandoned him on. this..

capsfan7 - He did say it and Ivan agreed but said that it was okay; that's hockey type of thing. Ovi shouldn't change and so on. Tarik didn't want Ovi to change either except he did in a way. He had a hard time verbalizing what he meant because it's a concept that's naturally kind of at odds with itself. 'Ovi, change a little but not too much.'

Sorry no link but the videos on the website seem to have stopped being posted during the summer (unless I'm not looking in the right spot). The show reruns again at 11:30, I think. Agree with you on all points.

caraveli - Coach B did just speak off the cuff, I think (and hope) too. It's his style, as you noted, and one that is usually kind of admirable. This time, it royally backfired. He may not have been the first one to use it in relation to Ovi's play here but his use of it solidified and legitimized it to others who are desperately lacking in any definable knowledge of, well, seemingly a lot of things. Sad to say.

Must sign off for now. Really good talking with you all.

GO CAPS!! OVI! OVI! OVI!!

Posted by: nena1 | December 2, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

hessone:
Еще раз спасибо. это занимает больше так писать - но гораздо больше удовольствия

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1:
after the first three paragraphs - i had no clue as to who was posting. but the first line of the fourth gave you away :)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

BB called Ovie reckless because he IS reckless - he could have easily caused a major knee injury to Gonchar in the playoffs last year and the same to Gleason the other night.

There's a fine line between being a physical aggressive player and a reckless player who goes after the knees.

he has to tone it down because they're not gonna just take hits like that from him forever without responding.

Posted by: joek443 | December 2, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1--I disagree on one point-100% of Caps nation support the team and Ovi. The other posters are irrelevant trolls.

Now as to your final statement: "Enemies at work and the blog take note: I fight hard and die even harder. Just like my hero, Alexander Ovechkin."

Well said sir, well said!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Бойкот Снайдер - Релиз Серрато - Релиз Донован!

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

To be fair, TEB does come off as a jerk sometimes when interviewing.

During a post game session in the locker room, Semin has just played a hell of a game and is being questioned about the on ice happenings. TEB rolls in and asks what amounts to "You played a good game but do you think you have made up for all the bad you have done the past few games?". Semin's face says the rest. It's on NHL.com if anybody wants to see.

Posted by: trunkenmath | December 2, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

hessone:
Вы думаете, вентиляторы могут положить, что сообщения на футболке, а не получить выбрасывается Снайдера?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Did I forget to press "1" for English?

Posted by: Chad8 | December 2, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Capsyoungguns: I read your post of 8:10 with both pride and elation much the same as Jefferson doubtless read the letters of Madison.

It is a welcome respite to the incongruities of everyday boredom when one can encapsulate the excitement of Ovi's performance into a few clear paragraphs.

I myself have no son; with three daughters, the youngest of whom is but mere days older than Ovi, I can view #8 in some ways as the son I never had.

And to think that MY BOY is being criticized so by such evil creatures as Colin Campbell, Cindy Crosby and 7 "unnamed survey respondents."

I understand Campbell (he's an empty suit) and Crosby (a lipstick wearer) but what gets me is the 7 NHL'ers who answered the survey w/o exposing their names.

Show yourselves, you Dishonerable 7, on the battlefield. We the members of Caps Nation will oppose you; nay, ridicule you; and although you'd leave me looking like Matt Bradley at the end, even worse, perhaps toothless and bloody, I will defend my hero, my #8.

Can I sell that speech for money?

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Capt_Kirk_in_AZ:

Хорошая идея. Возможно, плакат будет делать.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Ward was one of em, tom.

Go get him.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1
I stay far away from political blogs or I would go crazy. Getting into this is bad enough. I worked on the Hill and was a lobbyist, and some types I have absolutely no patience for. Right now my main battle is cancer treatment. This is a diversion -- a welcome one. It's terrific to have a winning team to focus on.

Posted by: Steakum | December 2, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Did I forget to press "1" for English?

Chad8:
that made me laugh - my family looks at me funny when i chuckle at my computer - i think my wife is wondering if i 'like' my computer too much

hessone:
Может быть, Снайдер может нанять Овечкин в эти выходные - Ovi мог читать все плакаты для него
Ovi не будет занят в то время приостановлена, и могут использовать несколько дополнительных долларов

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

@joek

I don't understand how Ovi is supposed to dial it back. Is he supposed to stop hitting for fear that someone might get injured? He's not that type of player. Hockey is dangerous and injuries happen all the time. Look at the Corvo injury

It's not like Ovi is taking cheap shots and then running to the refs when an opponent responds. He willingly accepts that aspect of the game. I know you are concerned with the length of his career, but no one can tell a warrior to go hide.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree with you guys about Tarik at times.. he needs cut the overdramatizing and the condescending tone.. its hockey not next top model. I thought Ovi was gonna make him eat that microphone.

Love you Ovi, but take care of yourself too.. and Semin, can't wait to see you tomorrow (maybe)!

For those of you going to chalk talk tomorrow you are banned from asking the following questions since someone asks the same dumb questions every time (if you have been there you know what I mean):
1. Dont ask about Ovi's knee
2. Dont ask about the ice being bad
3. Dont ask about the winter classic- google if if you want to know if the caps are playing or not
4. Don't ask about Nyls (if he signed else we would already know)
5. Don't ask about contracts for B and S (if he has signed, we would know)
6. Don't get the players names wrong
7. Don't ask if they are getting a free big ole defenseman to be an enforcer (they already aaid no, even they are planning to do it)
8.Don't ask if they will play the "let go the fury" song (hmm, at least get the slogan right if you want to hear it)
9. Other dumb questions that you can just google the answers to. Such as "What is high sticking" (really?)
clearly its too late for me to be posting and the angst is kicking in.
Ask a question that you might get an answer to!

Posted by: kmr2r | December 2, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1:
you can't blame those 7 for not wanting to be exposed. i don't think any of them would want to be on the ice the same time as ovi if he knew who they were

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

A few minutes after noon, my phone rang.
"Hello."
"tominfl1?" the voice said.
"Speaking."
"Hold for the President."
"Okay."
A pause, then: "Hey."
Me: "Dude."
"Did you get my speech last night? What did you think?"
"Well, really, it kinda dragged some, like watching the Devils play the trap."
"Hmmm," he said. "Understood." Another pause. "Can you help?"
"Well, sir, I can offer the Doofus Brigade."
"Can they fight?"
"About as well as Cindy," I said. "But they can keep the latrines clean for the real troops."
"Good. Excellent. We'll deploy them. How are you doing?"
"Not happy."
"What?"
"Campbell, sir, he's an empty suit."
"Understood. We'll fix that."
"Great."
"We'll do lunch," he said.
"I'm always hungry," I told him, and the line clicked dead.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

here's something unrelated to anything discussed so far

i have never liked the way the standings are listed - due the differences in games played between the teams (most 29, least 24) - they are not always accurate in my mind.
i prefer points earned per game

looking at the standings (prior to todays games) the caps are 1st in the EC and 2nd overall.

points earned per game would have the overall standings as:
1.45 - nj
1.44 - sj
1.42 - chi
1.42 - cal
1.40 - was
1.35 - pit
1.33 - buf

i think this is a better representation of who the top teams are. 2nd in the EC and 5th overall good


Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand how Ovi is supposed to dial it back. Is he supposed to stop hitting for fear that someone might get injured? He's not that type of player. Hockey is dangerous and injuries happen all the time. Look at the Corvo injury

It's not like Ovi is taking cheap shots and then running to the refs when an opponent responds. He willingly accepts that aspect of the game. I know you are concerned with the length of his career, but no one can tell a warrior to go hide.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 9:34 PM |

He just needs to make better decisions. I understand hockey is played in the split second, but Ovi could have made a smarter play there.

I would still like him to get 250-300+ hits.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I guess that along with Cindy and Aaron Ward, Danny Briere, Tim Gleason, Derrick Morris, Mike Richards and the honorable Brooks Orpik make up the silent seven. They should warrant a special designation in the Doofus Brigade.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@Kirk

In a sort of related tid bit, Varlamov has the best points possible per games played ratio out of any goalie in the league!

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

Enjoyed your posts of today. And the comments on Ovi.

I can certainly relate to them. In many ways, I regard Ovi as the son I never had. Maybe since I have a daughter who's about the same age but a few months older. If I had had a son born in early to mid September, I would have named him Alexander. This was even before Ovi was born. (So Mikhail and Tatiana had the son I would have liked.) Okay, I've been like the angry parent as of late. Okay, Ovi did wrong but I also felt like he was being unfairly targeted by the officials as well, in both the Buffalo and the Carolina game. (And I'm still gravely worried that the officials will still target him.)

I also regard Semin as the son I never had, as well. He was the first Cap of my daughter's generation to show up. He's nearly a year older and, like her, is a Pisces with Moon in Pisces. Both have been accused of not being focused at times. (I'm sure if I had compared notes with Semin's mother, we would have found many similarities between our kids.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

I am part of Semin's and Ovi's generation. I sometimes have been accused of not being focused. What'd you guys feed us? :)

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I guess that along with Cindy and Aaron Ward, Danny Briere, Tim Gleason, Derrick Morris, Mike Richards and the honorable Brooks Orpik make up the silent seven. They should warrant a special designation in the Doofus Brigade.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 9:55 PM

Add Avery, Pronger, Matt Cooke, Scott Hartnall and Ken Hitchcock and you have the Doofy Dozen.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Little drama always good during boring regular season

Posted by: Tabarnak | December 2, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Phil: I just gave my 29-year-old daughter some Partida tequila.

CapsFan75: I hope can hook up with T. Ovechkina. I'm sure you two will have much in common.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

The panthers just blew a huge lead and COL just scored 3 in the 3rd, 2 in the last minute to tie it up.

LOL..thanks Colorado.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil:
my kids got tater tots and mac & cheese

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Did I forget to press "1" for English?

Chad8:
that made me laugh - my family looks at me funny when i chuckle at my computer - i think my wife is wondering if i 'like' my computer too much

hessone:
Может быть, Снайдер может нанять Овечкин в эти выходные - Ovi мог читать все плакаты для него
Ovi не будет занят в то время приостановлена, и могут использовать несколько дополнительных долларов

Chad8:
Too funny. I get a kick out of this stuff.

Capt_Kirk_in_AZ:
Или, может быть бутылка водки. Рединг все плакаты он напивается, чтобы забыть о кошмаре. Серрато забрать его домой и на кровати. Спокойной ночи мастер.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1:
boy - seems like you're doing everything i've done two years earlier - born, marriage, kids
i've pieced together: 52, 31? & 29 (just now) - i'm at 50, 29, 27

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Well, that's it for me.

I have fought the fair fight; waged the good war; stood sturdy in the great struggle.

Even made illiterations that would make your English professor proud.

And now I will lay my head upon the pillow and pray that young Alex, #8, can do the same.

And, in keeping with the illiterative theme, I wouldn't be at all displeased if Colin Campbell corners constipation.

Because we all know he's full of $h!+.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1: Excellent posts. You wax philosophical and poetic, plus you know how to enjoy good food and fine wine. My kind of person. Let me guess: English professor, just back from a Sabbatical in France? Gentleman landowner who spends evenings penning sonnets, after long days of hunting in the countryside? Am I getting close?

I wish my husband and I had neighbors like you. We could visit with you and Mrs. Tomi and watch hockey while sipping wine, reading literature, and having noble sword fights.

Yes, things are getting more interesting in this blog. I noticed that Captain Kirk now converses only in Russian.

Posted by: caraveli | December 2, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

My biggest problem is that this "reckless" argument didn't surface until after Ovi was injured. Sure, we were all scared that he was lost for the season, but why let our fears fuel the "Ovi is dirty" crowd? He made a mistake, but he's not trying to injure himself or anyone else. He's just playing the game.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Now that November is over, I hearby designate November 2009 as "Bad Sasha Month". Here's the tally in that department.

Nov 1: "Sasha" O. gets hurt vs Columbus

Nov 4: "Sasha" S. has three minor penalties in game vs NJ. "Sasha" S is essentially abandoned by Caps fans.

Nov 6: "Sasha" S. hurts wrist trying to shoot puck against Florida.

Nov 7: "Sasha" S. gets in penalty box. Penalties are, luckily, not costly. Boudreau rearranges lines because top line hasn't produced. Semin's old linemates come to life. Blogosphere is really critical of Semin and saying he's liability.

Nov 9: It turns out "Sasha" S. has bad wrist.

Nov 10: "Sasha" S. come to practice with wrist brace.

Nov 11: "Sasha" S. is best player for us against NY Islanders. We win. Semin is shootout hero. Of course, his one turnover is criticized big time in the blogosphere.

Nov 13: Caps beat Wild.

Nov 14: NY Devils game. Caps lose. Semin is blamed for that one.

Nov 17: "Sasha" O finally plays again against the NY Rangers, scores goal, and Caps win. "Sasha" S was sent home from NY to see doctor about bad wrist.

Nov 18: "Sasha" S. shows up with a new wrist brace, with velcro fastenings. While MRI showed no damage, that brace is one similar to one people with broken wrists and badly sprained wrists wear.

Nov 20: The Montreal game the Caps lose. "Sasha" O has off day.

Nov 21: The Toronto game the Caps lose. "Sasha" O is our entire offense that day.

Nov 23: The Ottawa game the Caps lost.

Nov 25: The Buffalo Sabres game. "Sasha" O scored goal in 1st period and earns major boarding penalty (and ejection) in 3rd period.

Nov 28: The Montreal game the Caps won. "Sasha" O scored goal and Caps won in shootout

Nov 30: Carolina game. "Sasha" O earns assist on Backstrom goal and earns major penalty (and ejection and suspension) for kneeing Gleason.

So here's the tale of the tape for our "wayward" sons.


Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Kirk:

I'm 52; married 31 yrs; three daughters are 29, 26 and 24.

There are no grandchildren.

I would like to have a grandson one day; not that I feel I missed out by not having a son, but I always enjoyed so much the time my grandfather spent with me.

I will take this grandson to the top of Mt. Whitney and the bottom of the Grand Canyon and I will cart him off to a Caps game. And then God willing I can die happy.

Yours, tominfl1

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I noticed that Captain Kirk now converses only in Russian.

Posted by: caraveli | December 2, 2009 10:21 PM |

I thought Pavel Chekov was the Russian!


(no good?)

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
"Bad Sasha Month"
when you put it that way - i'll stick with calling them alex :)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70

So you figure that Brooks Orpik and Gleason are two of the guys who call Ovi dirty and reckless. These are two of the same guys that also gave Semin grief last year as well. Orpik (who I call Orprick and who my husband calls Oprick and another fan calls Ordick) had done the following to Semin in Game #1 of the playoffs: slash in face resulting in stitches, slash to wrist, slash to thumb causing him to not shoot well.

I recall Gleason giving Semin grief in the last Carolina game. (They got offsetting minor penalties.)

I'm surprised you didn't name Marc Staal, who's had a hitting battle with Ovi over the years (and is the guy Semin fought last year).

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Shoot! Is there a chalk talk tomorrow? Agghhhh! Did we have to RSVP for this one?

Posted by: DisgustedinArlington | December 2, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

FYI, for those of you asking for a Q&A with TEB, there is now one scheduled for 2pm on Thursday.

Ask him all your questions as to how he does his reporting.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | December 2, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

Semin will probably play tomorrow. He was practicing the last two days (today and yesterday) on lines. The only "spare" forward is Beagle who's already been sent to Hershey. Even Sloan was practicing at forward.

I assume if the "Seminator" is not ready, they would not have sent down Beagle, unless he or someone else is called up tomorrow.

Looking forward to seeing "Sasha" Semin again. And it would be nice to see him healthy. (Reports are, that the wrist was not the only thing wrong with him earlier this month. By mid-month, it was his only problem.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, Tom, I feel like I'm in one of Captain Kirk's time warps -- I am a year older than you, but my 3 sons are 18, 16, and 11. Some days I'd certainly rather be you on the beach!

Posted by: Steakum | December 2, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I noticed that Captain Kirk now converses only in Russian.

Posted by: caraveli

was just having some fun with hessone about the redskins, snyder and cerrato. fans could make signs in russian that they couldn't read and snyder would have to hire ovi to read them - ovi doesn't have to go back to work until next tuesday and probably could use a part time job this sunday. i know if i had to fork over almost a $100K - i'd work for the danny for a day :)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

caraveli: So close, yet so far.

Pen a sonnet? Isn't that something a lady wears? Oh, but that's abonnet.

No, not English professor, but political theory major working as cost estimator (a man has to know his limitations).

I have never been on sabbatical to France nor I have I been in France or on sabbatical. I have had plenty of drinks though on the sabbath and Black Sabbath is one of my favorite bands.

I consider myself a gentleman with several properties in FL and a nice plot of land in AZ overlooking the Colorado River. That said, I've only hunted clay pigeons and never bagged more than the allowable limit.

We would happily entertain you and your gallant husband (presuming he's not a Pens fan) with wine, cheese, beer and my favorite, potato sticks, and even engage in sword fights, assuming these are the little plastic swords you get with cheap cocktails.

I remain, my lady,
Yours,
tominfl1
at your service

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 2, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

I think November was "Sasha is Russian for Hero" month.

Sasha S. silently bore the brunt of the blame so that Caps fans wouldn't notice the half-hearted efforts from our team.

Sasha O. sacrificed his body and reputation so that Nicky B. would not end up on LTIR.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

@DisgustedinArlington and others

While I'm a season ticket holder, I won't be able to make it to the Chalk talk with Ted. It's enough just to try to get to the game in time after work, much less anything earlier.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1:
50, 29 and girls 27, 25 and son 22 w/ no grandkids

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tominfl1

Kirk:
I'm 52; married 31 yrs; three daughters are 29, 26 and 24.

Guy's,
I'm pulling up the rear. I'm 50 and I have a son 12 and daughter 10. Life is wonderful if you vision it that way. They're what keeps ol' hessone straight up and out of the sin bin.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Tell me about it Caps75. I've missed the first two and meant to do everything I could to hit this one. Completely forgot - didn't RSVP until 5 minutes ago - past yesterday's deadline. Hope they still let me in!

Posted by: DisgustedinArlington | December 2, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

"Bad Sasha" Month has a little better ring than "Bad Alex" Month. I figured I'd go with their Russian nickname with the suspected anti-Russian bias by certain officials.

I guess Pavel Chekov finally convinced you that Russian is the best language on Earth.

"Ahead Kyptin, Varp factor four"

BTW, Ovi's accent is a lot like Pavel Chekov's.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Kirk:

Спокойной ночи Кирк и хорошо спать моим другом.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I thought Pavel Chekov was the Russian!
(no good?)
Posted by: richmondphil

"Ahead Kyptin, Varp factor four"
BTW, Ovi's accent is a lot like Pavel Chekov's.
Posted by: CapsFan75

richmondphil's reference went right over my head the first time - the 'pavel' through me off

i like kyptin

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

@hessone

Yes, you got me beat for starting the kids late. In my case, I am 56 and the kids are 24 and 18. My first child is the same age as Ovi and Fehr (and 3 other Caps are within a year of her and one other is a year younger plus change). My second child is the age of this year's draft picks. No grandkids yet. My first is busy traveling so is in no position to have kids. And the second just started college.

While Kirk and Tom are younger than me and started the kid thing sooner. (Gee, is it any wonder we feel like the current Caps are kids?)

I know CapsYoungGuys also started having kids late in life.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

Of course Gleason and Orpik think Ovi is dirty. Didn't you notice that Gleason was suffering from that Ovi hit as he was dragging Sloan across the ice (I'm still mad about that!) And I'm shocked that Orpik didn't suffer a career-ending injury after he was forced to repeatedly slash Semin in the hand. A thumb shouldn't take that long to break! Sid intercepted the call for Marc Staal as he was camped out in the Rangers crease.

Posted by: ablake70 | December 2, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

I guess I need to give you more Star Trek lessons. I'm a big Star Trek fan who's favorite character is Pavel Chekov. (The actor playing Chekov is also a Virgo, like Ovi.)

Also, Captain Kirk had ancestors who lived in Tombstone, Arizona. Episode: "Spector of the Gun".

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

hessone:
Спокойной ночи - надежда поговорить с вами снова скоро

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70

Gleason and Orpik are certainly dirtier players than Ovi, to say the least.

(There seems to be a correlation somewhere between the players that Ovi and Semin have trouble with.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
i watched, and liked, star trek when i was a kid. i am impressed that you can cite details and episode names of the show

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

So you're of Ovi and Semin's generation, not to mention my first born daughter's?

Were you familiar with Ryan Jasinsky, the fellow from Richmond who was at the Caps Development camp (even though he didn't make the team or Hershey)?

I thought it would have been great if he ended up with the SC Stingrays and we could have seen the Jasinsky/Kashirsky line.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

Star Trek is probably my main hobby, outside of sports.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75,
It worked out better for the kids this way and not so much the other way around. I had to get my ya-yas out and I was extremely fortunate too have the children later in life. I took a friend to a game and as the Caps were warming up she remarked "my god, their only kids". I was a bit speechless at that point. Then as our eye's met we had a good laugh as we drank beer and quickly changed the subject.

Funny how we age physically and we don't feel as if we're getting older. Then a photo or some other humbling experience brings us back down to earth.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

Enjoy your posts also. Maybe you should go visit Tom in Florida before he moves.

We're going down to Florida this January. To soak up some sun AND rock the red for the Caps vs Tampa Bay and the Florida Panthers.

Will we see the Disney attractions? Still, to be determined. During our "Three Little Frenchmen" dialog which morphed into the "Three Little Pigs" or Trois Petits Cachons", Disney's song about the "Three Little Pigs" kept running through my head.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

@hessone

I know it worked out better for us. It's mind boggling to me that my mom has me at age 22 1/2 and my sister a year later.

I didn't get married until age 23 but had no kids until 31 (pushing 32). I don't think either my husband or I would have been mature enough to have done it "right" much sooner.

By the time we had kids, at least we had a house and some money saved up. But bought a new and bigger house soon after kid #1 was born. And it was just as well they were spaced out 6 years.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
Oh well,the sand man cometh. Nice time chatting on the board tonight with you as well with you Captain Kirk. And as our beloved young gun Alex Ovechkin would say in his native language, "Не принимайте деревянных пятак". Спи хорошо мои друзья.

Posted by: hessone | December 2, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Were you familiar with Ryan Jasinsky, the fellow from Richmond who was at the Caps Development camp (even though he didn't make the team or Hershey)?

I thought it would have been great if he ended up with the SC Stingrays and we could have seen the Jasinsky/Kashirsky line.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 11:05 PM |

No, I think he might be too young for me to know. Plus, I was raised in Northern Virginia. I only moved to Richmond recently.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 2, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1--thank you for your kind remarks. I spoke from the heart. The video made me feel very sad for our Ovi and yet all the news links made it sound as though he was defiant and angry. So much is said with his eyes alone. So little understanding of his essential nature was evident in print today.

I understand the idea behind BB's statements, picking his battles better, playing the edge with more control, to not hurt himself. But I felt as though the lion had been caged and was not sure how to break free.

I have truly enjoyed your posts today.

@capsfan75 and hesone--I have you both beat in the "kids late in life department." Just turned 50 and I have a 9 year old. He keeps me busy, both on the ice and off. Discovering hockey, the Caps, and especially Ovi has been one of our best family activities. Both of them, my husband and my son, are still not quite sure what to do with my quite rabid devotion to the Caps and desire to learn all things hockey, when just a few years ago I was not that sure of "team" sports. I just hadn't discovered the right one--hockey.Thank goodness the two of them convinced me to go to a game.

Lastly I do thank the WP staff who figured out how to merge my schizophrenic online self--newbiecapfan07 has mind-melded online with capsyoungguns (to keep the Star Trek relevancy intact).

GO CAPS and GO OVI!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 2, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

@hessone & @CaptainKirkinAZ

Just for fun, I ran the Russian quotes on today's blog posts through an on-line translation site.

It didn't know what to do with the Cyrillic for "Kirk". It actually knew what to do with the Cyrillic for "Snyder" and for "Donovan" but not what to do with "Cerrato".

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 2, 2009 11:55 PM | Report abuse

And as our beloved young gun Alex Ovechkin would say in his native language,
"Не принимайте деревянных пятак". Спи хорошо мои друзья. =
"Do not take wooden nickle. Sleep well my friends.

thanks hessone

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 2, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Illya [sic] Kuryakin first, then Pavel Chekov! I was really disappointed I had to wait until college to take a Russian class; my high school offered only German, French, Spanish, and Latin. Bleah.

I only hope the Bright Center to my Hockey Universe channels his frustration into goals. Kick their miserable asses, Ovi, right into the crease! (and I'll see you at Staples in a month!!)

Posted by: OvechkinFan92801 | December 3, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns & @tominfl1

Agree that Ovi seemed more resigned than anything. But the news links really made it sound like he was angry.

He will need to pick his battles more carefully and adjust his game to some degree since the officials are really out to get him. I'm more than a little worried. I don't think he's a bad guy but ....

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 3, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

@OvechkinFan92801

Are you as old as I am if you remember Kuryakin? I wasn't as big of a "Man from Uncle" fan as ST fan but did like old Illya. I was more hooked on Chekov on Star Trek.

I had wanted to take German in HS but my HS did not have German so I took it in college. (I had gotten interested in German being a big Mozart fan.) I never did have formal training in Russian but had bought myself a Russian dictionary (when I was a teenager who was into Chekov). So, I can mentally transcribe the Cyrillic. The Russian word for "sport" is actuall sport (but, of course, the Cyrillic version of the word).

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 3, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Always wanted to take Russian, but never did.

I took French, Latin, and some Biblical Hebrew. I don't remember much of any of it.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 3, 2009 12:59 AM | Report abuse

hey dcsportsfan, here's another cheapshot to the back of someone's head that never even got a suspension. Best part of this is al koken expressing disbelief that McSorley could ever be capable of a cheap shot. Good one Al!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPDSqg2iJNE&feature=related

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 3, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Well I guess OV won't be winning the Lady Byng this year.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | December 3, 2009 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Well gang,

There's now an open thread on the Alex Ovetjkin blog for fans to write their support for Ovi.

Here's the link:


http://alexovetjkin.blogspot.com/2009/12/lets-support-ovi-open-thread.html

Or you can get to it through the "Washington Hockey Daily" page or the Capitals Friendly Blog page.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 3, 2009 6:43 AM | Report abuse

capsfan75-But what....! Of course he's not a bad man. The problem with selected quotes in the print media is that it doesn't capture the tone or expression of the speaker. And words taken out of context--the question to which it was answering--in the print media can be twisted as it has been in this case. There is nothing defiant in Ovi in this video--there is resignation in his facial expressions, in his voice, in the slump of his shoulders, in how quickly he shut down. This is a guy who thrives on his public interactions. This was hard for him, very hard.

As a researcher/writer by trade I read everything with a critical eye--was the quote taken out of context, did it actually reflect what the speaker was trying to say, and so on. I always go back to the original interview be it video or print and draw my own conclusions. And any cut-and-paste video or interview I regard as dubious.

Sorry but I think the media has got this interpretation wrong. Ovi is a very complex athlete and individual but the media likes one word quips and soundbites. No one of us would care to be summed up in a soundbite.

Of course we all understand what BB has to do--how to help Ovi play that edge with more maturity. To protect himself and have a long and valuable career as a Caps and as an once-in-a-generation athlete in hockey. We want to win many Stanley Cups with Ovi as the heartbeat of this team.

But I despise how he has become the scapegoat for so called "dirty" which is an entirely different word from "reckless" aggressive play on ice. I know that it was the timing, that the calls came too closely together, that the NHL was under pressure to start suspending "stars". But why were the refs assuming the borderline incidents were suddenly game misconduct worthy. It also began on the ice with the refs.

I have no doubt that Ovi and the Caps will come through this. This team is strong and skilled and supportive. There is more than good chemistry among them. There are real friendship. This will make the Caps battle hardened. We are tough warriors who WILL be the only ones standing at the end. Of this I have no doubt.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 3, 2009 7:15 AM | Report abuse

CapsFan75,

Доброе утро мое солнце. Прекрасный день вперед.

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Posted by: hessone | December 3, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

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