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Ovechkin ejected again, suffers knee injury (updated)

For the second time in three games, Alex Ovechkin has been tossed from a game. This time, he was assessed a five minute kneeing major and a game misconduct for a knee-on-knee collision with Carolina defenseman Tim Gleason in the Hurricanes' zone early in the first period.

Ovechkin also appears to have suffered a right knee injury. That -- if it's bad -- could be worse than any suspension/fine he might be facing from the NHL.

Update:A Caps spokesman just said the team will not make an announcement on Ovechkin's injury tonight.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  November 30, 2009; 7:38 PM ET
 
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Hope everything is ok w/Ovie.

Posted by: cbs75 | November 30, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I luv the guy, but he has really pissed me off! Why would a guy so talented feel the need to intentionally knee someone! I hate any player that goes out to hurt someone and I am ahshamed that AO did that.

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

let's pray its nothing serious - that was dumb and unnecessary

Posted by: VTBonovox | November 30, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

No way to defend that hit. Definitely a very dirty hit, and he'll be looking at 5 games minimum, even if he's okay. Hopefully it's not a serious injury, but it sure didn't look good...

Posted by: Aldred15 | November 30, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Just when I think Ovechkin is the dumbest guy in the NHL I see what Ballard did. What a total moron!

Posted by: icehammer97 | November 30, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

karma

Posted by: oo7 | November 30, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Charlie Horse, please!

Posted by: thomas20 | November 30, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Ovi, why are you concentrating on hits so much? We hate to see you ruin an MVP caliber career for all the time lost to suspensions and injuries to do that.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I think it's impossible to know if OV was intentionally trying to hurt that guy. Only he knows that. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. However, the book is out on him, the league will fine & suspend him and he will have to watch the way he plays in the future. He has a bad reputation now.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 30, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Well..it looks like Fehr will have a lot of ice time on line 1 and 2. Something that should have happened in years past.

Ovie couldn't put weight on the leg. I am thinking he could be out months.

Posted by: Caps4Life1 | November 30, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

OMG please no. I can't watch the game. And I am frantic trying to find a feed.

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | November 30, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

@ capscoach

I highly doubt it was intentional. Why would he knee someone on purpose when he knows that it will more than likely cause himself to have an injury. That said, Ovie has gotten a bit too careless for my taste in these recent games. I get he's a physical player and he plays the game hard, but he's just gone overboard with the aggressive play as of late.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

Sad to say, I agree with your comment. And to think Ovi is my favorite player (along with Semin)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Well..it looks like Fehr will have a lot of ice time on line 1 and 2. Something that should have happened in years past.
Ovie couldn't put weight on the leg. I am thinking he could be out months.

Posted by: Caps4Life1 | November 30, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

When are the Olympics?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

@elicea

I agree with you also. It almost seems like Ovi has become our de facto enforcer.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Crosby supporters/Ovechkin haters are going to have a field day with this one, which is even more annoying than the fact that OV decided to do a hit that stupid...

Backstrom looks very good tonight, on a side note.

Posted by: Aldred15 | November 30, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Question: If Ovi gets suspended, does the suspension kick in as soon as he's "recovered" from his injury or how does it work?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

It's getting harder and harder to defend his 'intensity.'

Posted by: 4shosho | November 30, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Sure you can defend the hit... as far as whether it was intentional or not.

It absolutley WAS NOT intentional but it will be twisted as such by all his detractors.

He may be reckless but he did not mean to hurt himself or the Carolina player. The same can be said about the Gonchar knee-on-knee but once again his detractors will refuse to believe that.

He is reckless but NOT dirty.

That was a deserved major but he it was NOT dirty, i.e., intentional.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

@Aldred15

And so does Eric Fehr who is now our best forward.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

OVIEEEE NOOOO :( :( i actually can't believe this is happening. pleaseee say he is not hurt :( i do agree the hit was unnecessary... and i am just praying he is only fined and suspended, but not hurt.


great goal by nicky..come on steck it's ur turn!

Posted by: Bondra2Ovie | November 30, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I think Semin will play in the next Caps game come hell or high water. People were already thinking he'd be back. Now here's added motivation.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Intentional goes to what's in your head. That we'll never know. Dirty play goes to style--Ovi now has a track record on that.

Posted by: hockeydad | November 30, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Nobody ever intentionally knees anyone. The risk to self injury is too high. I think we have no idea how fast plays actually develop out there. A two game suspension is automatic for having a second major penalty within 60 games. Supplemental discipline possible - but how do you improve intent vs misfortune? Caps look business like tonight on the ice - they need to play that way.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | November 30, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

as much as I like Ovie, whenever I see a knee on knee hit like that all I can remember is my favorite Caps' player Bengt Gustafsson breaking his leg on such a hit

hope he's alright but hard to defend what he just did.

Posted by: joek443 | November 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Holy! I just saw what Ballard did! What an IDIOT! What was he THINKING?

Posted by: Aldred15 | November 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Yet another dirty hit from the man who is rapidly becoming one of the dirtiest players in the NHL. Hit him hard NHL, he has definitely earned it. VTBonovox, don't waste your prayers on scum like that. He doesn't deserve it.

Posted by: jega246 | November 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

Did you even see the play?

He was clearly trying to get him with his shoulder before the player cut inside.

No player in the history of any sport has ever intentionally used his own knee to hit another player's knee. The player using his own knee is risking his entire by doing so.

You can say he's reckless and out of control but he wouldn't try to hurt his own knee.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Here is the thing. Looking at the replay it looked like he knee was out long before the hit. He wasn't sticking it out because he was missing the hit a la George Laraque against Kronwall. He only got five games for that. It looked like he was just having a wide base. Also since Gleason didn't get hurt it will be less of a sanction. It is going to be all about if he is hurt and for how long that will be the big issue.

Posted by: icehammer97 | November 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

*risking his entire career

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

That hit did not deserve a game misconduct, he didn't intend to injure the guy. It was a penalty, sure, but I don't think it was a major. Ovie was moving at Gleason with speed and Gleason got out of the way, it was just a mistimed hit, happens a lot more often and I hardly see them give misconducts to those other people. Gleason was already back out on the ice if i'm not mistaken, so its not like he's really injured. Now Ovie is likely to get suspended and fined because of two very questionable game misconducts. Anyone who says Ovie intentionally tried to injure the the guy is crazy, it was just a mistimed hit, those happen, that's why we have minor penalties. But unfortunately you guys will get what you want, because he'll get suspended and might even be seriously injured. I just hope he gets better soon.

Posted by: jonsnoek | November 30, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The knee on knee wasn't on purpose, but that is not an excuse for it either. Dumb, inexcusable and beyond reckless. I wish he is alright physically but these hits are going to ruin his reputation.

Posted by: JSchon | November 30, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Yes he is reckless and that will have to change. Jega - get lost.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 30, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao

I am really upset about this. God, Ovi why oh why are you risking your career for hits?

And Gleeson was actually back on the bench.

Alexander Mikhailovich, that is NOT, repeat NOT how to play the game. Way not to go!!!!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who thinks ovie's hit on gonch was worse? Sure his leg was out but he also was trying to lean into the guy. He is reckless for sure and let's hope this is just a scare and not something more serious.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 30, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Any intelligent person who watches Ovechkin play frequently knows he is NOT a dirty player. He is, however, very physical and at times reckless. That was a very reckless and foolish hit. He's paying the price right now and hopefully he will learn from his mistakes. And I pray he isn't out too long!!! There is just no room in the NHL for those knee on knee hits.

Posted by: dsphvywght | November 30, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

@ tmac2yao
I love AO...all I am saying is that he just got a boarding call (though questionable) and decides to play like that...I am so tired of defendng him! He needs to stop risking his health and reputation. He is making life so much harder for himself than it needs to be!

Posted by: capscoach | November 30, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

He initiated it and he ended up hurt.

GOOD for Gleason to be able to return.

This can be viewed as a Teachable Moment, hopefully a long rehab will make this guy realize how dumb his actions are.

Posted by: Cheef | November 30, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I really can't remember anyone initiating such a hit getting hurt... it's usually the other guy who gets hurt seriously

Posted by: joek443 | November 30, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao

I wouldn't think someone would risk his own knee to hurt another.

Ovi, when and if you are back, you need to be extra careful

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Not a smart play, but not intentional either. True Ovie fans will rally behind him. If you've followed him over the yrs, you would know he's a physical player, not a goon. Bad stuff happens. But that's sports. Let's hope he's ok.

Posted by: cbs75 | November 30, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I watched the hit on slow-mo, and-sad to say-from my perspective, it looked like he led with the knee.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Ovie needs to talk to Malkin on how to play soft and weak so he doesnt get hurt.

Sorry people..Ovie is a big hit hunter...did you not think a mistake would come? That was a mistake...

Posted by: SA-Town | November 30, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

@cbs75

I love Ovi and don't think he's a goon but he's now getting a reputation, whether deserved or not.

Here, he gets major penalties and the guys who he hits are not seriously injured. Kaleta was back the next game and Gleeson was back before long.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Once again, I feel like the mother of the bad kid.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Don Cherry called OV out a month ago and this blog went crazy...well who do we blame now? OV will get some games to rest and will be suspended........even if it wasnt intentional it was reckless, stupid and selfish...and he will pay the prioce as will the Caps

Posted by: wendel2 | November 30, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree with cbs75...he is aggressive, but based on the speed of the play, I can't believe that was intentional. Regardless, it is going to be very tough for the Caps to recover if AO is our for an extended period of time. Drat!

Posted by: nomarjax01 | November 30, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

He can still be aggressive but he definitely needs to lay off sometimes. Now he's starting to gain a bad reputation around the league..

Posted by: rachel216 | November 30, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

we should feel lucky if Ovie isn't out for the year.. forget about suspensions or reputations

Posted by: joek443 | November 30, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

HOLY PENALTIES! Unreal...

Posted by: Aldred15 | November 30, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

That's exaclty right, joek.

The bigger concern than any suspensions and reputation-related issues is the nature of the injury.

In a worst-case scenario, this could be season-ending or worse...

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

9 PP minutes for the Canes. We are asking for them to win the game! UGHHH!!

Posted by: rachel216 | November 30, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Yes he is reckless and that will have to change. Jega - get lost.
------------------------------------------
Say I am right then say get lost. Real smart...not. I'll get lost the day the Russian moron is taken off the ice on a stretcher. He is DIRTY and will pay with a healthy suspension. My only hope is that he is out hurt longer than the length of the suspension. Anyone who says it was not intentional needs to objectively look at the highlight but I realize that Capital fans can't/won't do that.

Posted by: jega246 | November 30, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

can anybody tell who the alternate captains are?

Posted by: kmr2r | November 30, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Yet another dirty hit from the man who is rapidly becoming one of the dirtiest players in the NHL. Hit him hard NHL, he has definitely earned it. VTBonovox, don't waste your prayers on scum like that. He doesn't deserve it.

Posted by: jega246 | November 30, 2009 7:57 PM

Dirtiest player??? hahahahaha You are a joke. Unfortunately for you and people who try to hit him....he hits you harder. Scum is a player who sucker punches a player on a faceoff or tried to punch him in the a$$.
You smell like a dirty penguins fan.

Posted by: Chase4 | November 30, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow carolina stinks. Not only have they played 1/3rd the game with a man advantage, we have theo in net and they still can't score.

Posted by: ejohnsto | November 30, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

@ kmr2r

B-mo and Ovie, I think.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I can already see the headline tomorrow. Something along the lines of...

"Ovechkin out for season with torn ACL"

I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

jega246: Was it a Russian, a Cap, or a Caps fan that got your mother pregnant this time?

Posted by: uncatim | November 30, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

I hope I'm wrong, but I say torn ACL out 4-6 months :( Stupid, stupid, hit.

Posted by: rarcr | November 30, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

jega246 is a troll. ignore it.

Posted by: cbs75 | November 30, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Something has happened with Ovechin's thinking this year. Instead of using his unique talent he seems to want to be the enforcer/bad boy of the league. Not only has it cost him two injuries but his reputation around the league will suffer and other headhunters will be after him from now on.

Not good.

Posted by: MKadyman | November 30, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jega you actually think that he intentionally tries to injure players? I cant believe you would even think that. Ok your not a fan of Ovechkin, but dont be so blinded by hate to actually think the man goes out there to injure other players. He needs to play smarter but he aint no dirty player.

Posted by: jediprep82 | November 30, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

What really concerns me isn't just the fact that Ovechkin couldn't put his right foot down but the way his face and body looked as he was being helped off the ice.

He was in SEVERE pain. Given the general area he was hurt, that is a horrible sign.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Caps players capable of scoring 30+ goals this year:

Ovechkin
Semin
Laich
Morrison
Knuble
Fleischmann
Fehr
Backstrom
Green

Probably a couple won't get there, but I think we'll be okay.

Posted by: butcherbaker | November 30, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

jega246 - Ya think maybe you're looking at the replay with Ovie-hate in your eyes? Perhaps it is YOU not being objective. You hope he is out hurt? I rest my case....

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

looks like ACL to me. Done for the season. long long rehab. No Gold medal for Mother Russia and No CUP run this season. Thanks, OVIE for your recklessness.

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin IS a dirty player and I see that as a plus, tends to keep everybody on edge.

Only problem is that he's so obvious, hopefully he's putting on an act, so the suspension won't be too bad.

Posted by: Cheef | November 30, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

555Mass - Are you an orthopedic doc?

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

holy crap. Just saw a video of Ballard's 'slash' on Vokoun. Ballard must be feeling like sh*t right now.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I was just about to ask the same thing, gonch.

Posted by: 106T | November 30, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Player of the game for the Caps right now is Jeff Shultz (Theo can be argued). Who would have thought that?

Posted by: Aldred15 | November 30, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

@ gonchpup

Yes, I am. Plus, I had several knee surgery myself. (ACL and meniscus)

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Say I am right then say get lost. Real smart...not. I'll get lost the day the Russian moron is taken off the ice on a stretcher. He is DIRTY and will pay with a healthy suspension. My only hope is that he is out hurt longer than the length of the suspension. Anyone who says it was not intentional needs to objectively look at the highlight but I realize that Capital fans can't/won't do that.

Posted by: jega246 | November 30, 2009 8:12 PM

Stay classy you scumbag. You mentioned karma. Those classless comments show your true self and karma will come back to bite your team in the arse.

Posted by: Chase4 | November 30, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

jega246-this is your life--coming onto a Capitals board to heckle and take pleasure in an injury to a player. What a sad sad person you are. I have nothing but contempt and pity for you. Go back to your team. You are a terrible fan.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

For people who haven't seen it (like me a minute ago):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mKYT-z5pDU

I'm not sure what to think. It looks like he was expecting to get upper body and Gleason moved too quick for him. He didn't widen the stance, but he looks like he might have had time to move his leg when Gleason turned. Altogether a pretty stupid play by Ovie whether it was intentional or not.

Posted by: Raber | November 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to say it but I hope this is the incident that really teaches Ovechkin a lesson. As exciting a player as he is, Ovie has made a lot of questionable runs at people and, as Don Cherry said, "someone's gonna get him, and someone's gonna get him good." That someone, of course, ended up being himself on the second dumb, dirty knee-on-knee hit of his career. I know the injury may keep him out longer, but I hope the NHL comes down hard on him in the way of fines and at least 2-3 game suspension.

Although I don't like the jingoistic undertones of Cherry's critiques of Ovechkin's style, this much is true: there is a way to play the game that is gritty and stylish that respects the safety of other players. Ovechkin makes good hard clean checks, but at crucial times he does not seem to understand the difference between a good open-ice hit and charging, which is disrespectful and dangerous. Now Ballard, his teammates and his family have to deal with the effects of this, just like Gonchar did in the playoffs. Cherry's old-school mentality is valuable in that sense - play the game tough, but play it clean and dont run at guys and hit them when they don't have adequate time or space to react to you.

Ovechkin is the best player in the world, but he needs to tone down the charging (I don't call that hitting because it's not legal). This is Don Cherry's told-ya-so moment, and I really hope Colin Campbell does not back down over this and that Boudreau/McPhee have the balls to get in his face about it. After all - look at what it cost them. As much as this hurts the Caps, it really should serve as a turning point for ovechkin.

Posted by: fronesis1016 | November 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

555 are u currently at rbc center evaluating ovies knee?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom again... good timing for a streak

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Nice move by Backs!

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom!!!

Posted by: cbs75 | November 30, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

He saw his buddy Backstrom get wiped out along the far boards and then decided to charge the closest person he could. They have a close-up picture of it on Ovechkin's fan site (of course have to defend yourself quickly). The Caps should just suspend Ovechkin as an organization. I know it sounds crazy, but send him a message that he needs to tone it down and not overreact.

Posted by: kmr2r | November 30, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

What a goal! Leighton played it horribly, but still, SWEET GOAL!

Posted by: Aldred15 | November 30, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Jega, why are you here?

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad our team can play without our star though. I would've expected most of them to be shell shocked after watching Ovie in that much pain...

Posted by: Raber | November 30, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Teachable moment

Hope Gleason is ok.

Posted by: Cheef | November 30, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

You'll see tomorrow's headlines...Torn ACL. He'll never be the same.

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

who are our alternate captains now? seems that all of our alternates are hurt. I see BrandoMo is wearing one of the "A's"

Posted by: kmr2r | November 30, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Dammit!
I missed the second Backs goal!
Dammit!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | November 30, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Theodore has been rock solid. Nice to see him back on top of his game.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Where in the H is Chicken Little now?

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

555Mass, go take a hike you moron.

Posted by: MarylanDChris | November 30, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

From Tarik's twitter:

Since kneeing and boarding are in different categories, it APPEARS that Alex Ovechkin will escape an AUTOMATIC suspension.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

555Mass - I can't imagine a "real" doc offering a diagnosis so blindly. I think you're full of crap, or at least an ass for opening your mouth with a lack of sensitivity. Go play with your stethoscope!

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure I'll hear it for this one, but Shultz seems to be effective as well.

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

this game feels weird now. even the players feel it. nobody really celebrated much for backs' goal

Posted by: ejohnsto | November 30, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't know 555Mass' agenda but I have to agree this is very possibly a ligament issue.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

@ Chad8

I actually agree with you.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Washington's hockey coverage continues to leave something to be desired. If this had been a football injury, we would have had all sorts of inside news on the injury and the timeframe. We need to have better "sources" on the inside of Caps hockey in this town. The Washington media needs to start making more "friends" on the inside. Another perfect example: in another city we would have inside reports on Nylander or maybe even a sit-down interview with Nylander to see what is going on with his side of the story.

Posted by: kmr2r | November 30, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Let's play the game of idiotic internet diagnosis!!

Posted by: MarylanDChris | November 30, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Imagine the cap room if he's placed on LTIR, there's always a bright side

Posted by: Cheef | November 30, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Semin has to be back next game. Even if he is not 100% the Caps will need him back with Ov out (no matter what he is going to be out at least the next game) along with all of the other injuries we have as a team. It is a good thing we are playing the worst team in the NHL and can still beat them as long as we keep playing in the third without a third of our team including three of our top six forwards.

Posted by: icehammer97 | November 30, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Semin has to be back next game. Even if he is not 100% the Caps will need him back with Ov out (no matter what he is going to be out at least the next game) along with all of the other injuries we have as a team. It is a good thing we are playing the worst team in the NHL and can still beat them as long as we keep playing in the third without a third of our team including three of our top six forwards.

Posted by: icehammer97 | November 30, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

don't know if this is a good sign or a bad one but versus just reported that Ovie is still at the arena and hasn't left for the hospital

Posted by: joek443 | November 30, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

555Mass, sounds like a Boston fan. We've pawned you the last couple of seasons.

Posted by: cbs75 | November 30, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

No agenda. Just an anger fan. Look at the knee to knee hit very closely. Ovie's took a straight shoot to the knee, which will create his lower leg to move backwards. Plus, CSN just reported, Ovie can not put any pressure on his injuried knee..torn ligament..

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Put it this way: The chances of it being a minor injury are very, very, very slim.

Whether it's a bone bruise (essentially a broken bone) or a torn ligament or something with his knee cap, it's likely going to be very serious.

If you look at Ovechkin's physical reaction combined with the general area where the injury occurred and the history of such injuries, there isn't much room for optimism.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

kmr2r, NHL front offices could give the CIA lessons on keeping secrets. GMGM is one of the most secretive of them all. Even the full resources of Hockey Night in Canada couldn't get much out of him or the Capitals except what the club decides to officially announce when it's officially announced.

Posted by: greggwiggins | November 30, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

fronesis1016 - Screw Cherry. He's one opinion. True, I think Ovie's luck has been put to the test, but you say, "...look what it cost them". Several game suspension? The injury? Unless you know as much as 555Mass, why not hold out hope it looked worse than it is.

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't disagreeing with you 555Mass. I just figured the other poster may have known you to be anti-Caps or something. I see nothing wrong with your assessment. I came to the same conclusion.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Does the fact he has not been taken to the hospital yet have any bearing on the severity of the injury??????.

Posted by: ruskyfan | November 30, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

There is no advantage for the Caps to tell anyone whether OV is injured until they get confirmation of a suspension. Need to make sure a suspension will be concurrent with an injury.

As for the comments about Semin needing to come back - actually everyone gets more ice time without OV. There is no "game film" on the Caps without OV - we have an opportunity to surprise teams and get lots of extra efforts from pretty good players on the roster.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | November 30, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Kmr2r, should Tarik storm the locker room ??? What do you expect him or any other reporter to do? Just like In the NFL, you only know what the team tells you.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 30, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

@Cheef -- ha! hadn't though of that

555, etc. -- no way you can tell anything just from watching the video. It very well may be a ligament but only a MRI will prove that

Posted by: butcherbaker | November 30, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

@JoeK443; I agree, it makes me cringe too...but when Bengt's injury happened, it was that jerk Dennis Potvin who broke his leg....But Bengt came back to a re-do version of a song...think they called it "back in the highligts again"...thats what will happen with ovie. But my point is, Bengt was not the agressor, it was that dirty mo-fo Potvin

Posted by: GaryJ06 | November 30, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I hear you GreggWiggins...GMGM does seem to be very hush...but someone back there knows...someone else in that locker room, a trainer's assistant, a janitor, someone...

Posted by: kmr2r | November 30, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

No need to go to the hospital now, he'll have too much swelling in his knee to even get him an MRI tonight.

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

There is no advantage for the Caps to tell anyone whether OV is injured until they get confirmation of a suspension. Need to make sure a suspension will be concurrent with an injury.

As for the comments about Semin needing to come back - actually everyone gets more ice time without OV. There is no "game film" on the Caps without OV - we have an opportunity to surprise teams and get lots of extra efforts from pretty good players on the roster.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | November 30, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

@joek443 - that could be a good sign. I'd imagine they would have an MRI done. I figure the team is smart to await word until tomorrow to see. Maybe they want to have an MRI done and see what it shows. You never know. I'd imagine had it been serious he would've already been taken to the hospital but you never know. Let's hope he's ok.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | November 30, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer97

I agree. I believe Semin will be back next game. We really need him now.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Nylander will be out for the third

Posted by: Cheef | November 30, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Cheef/Bill! How the heck are ya pal!

Posted by: Leeguru | November 30, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

@butcherbaker

acl, pcl and mcl are all ligaments....torn/tear/sprain etc.

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

No comment until tomorrow? Ovie must have hired Tiger's lawyer.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | November 30, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

@ tmac2yao

Yes, Ovi is risking his entire career to be the league enforcer. This does not look good.

It makes me upset. Big time.

Alexander Mikhailovich, when and if you ever come back, please stop the knee on knee hits.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Come on Caps fans - Be optimistic. I'm not saying all is well in the locker room, but until he is checked out through and through by a REAL doc, we just don't know. As for the game, how about Theo, Backstrom, and Fehr, eh?

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Hospital visit makes no difference, many times the swelling is so severe they need to wait, major or minor injuries.

Posted by: Cheef | November 30, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

And 555 a reputable doctor wouldn't make a diagnos from one video angle no matter how slowly you replay it. So I don't give your opinion much value.
And this is hockey. Not football. No team especially this one gives out much injury information.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Those of us who watch Ovie know he's not a dirty player a la Avery or pronger. However it's pretty understandable why others feel that way after seeing just highlights. He will be suspendedfor sure, for no other reason than folks think guys like he, crosby and Malkin get special treatment. Ovie will no doubt miss some games due to this injury, convenient for the NHL cause they ca n suspend h concurrently without forcing him to miss games.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 30, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Fast forward 10 years or more.

Newbie hockey fan notices a rather large forward on the fourth line who's the team's enforcer.

They are surprised to learn that he used to be the best player in the league who held goal scoring titles and two (or more) MVP awards.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

gonchpup: good point, but it's not just cherry: i grew up in hockey and shown a certain way to play that's respectful of other players, and anyone outside of the dc area would express at least a little concern about ovechkin's hitting. My point is: Ovechkin has not been shown any limits yet - the league took a pass on a couple really questionable hits (youtube "Ovechkin knee on knee" "Ovechkin dirty"- it's amazing how many videos pop up) and the coach doesn't get in his face about it. I'm saying - if he's out 10-15 games, hopefully that gets him to think about his style of play a little bit. All around great player and great hitter - most of the time. he needs to learn what the limits are and hopefully he'll stop running at people. If he doesn't now, i'm sure the players will start showing him on the ice - which could get even uglier for him and the caps.

Posted by: fronesis1016 | November 30, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Agree with you gonchpup. I'll wait until he gets thoroughly looked over and have proper tests done.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I can tell you the injury report:

"Ovie has a lower body injury and will be week-to-week"

There you go. Lets focus on the game.

Posted by: NFeKPo | November 30, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

555mass is playing a regular message board gambit. Making a controversial statement that could be true. if he is wrong, he just fades away or creates another sockpuppet to keep here. If he is right, he will post a bunch of "I told you so" and hope people accept him as being "in the know"

Posted by: trunkenmath | November 30, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

@dcsportsfan1

Or would it be the Caps' luck that they would time the suspension to take place as soon as Ovi's been cleared to play? (But then again, if they did that, the Caps could report that Ovi is "ready" before he really is "ready".

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I see the trolls like Cheef are back.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75 - League enforcer? Give me a break. The guy may be one of the league-leaders in hits, something most fans appreciate, but every now and then this crap happens. Enforcer? No. Dirty? No. Until he swings a stick at somebody's head or sucker-punches someone, dirty is not the right adjective. Try reckless, maybe. And passionate, physical, aggressive, etc...

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I am beyond concerned now.

Watch this video and check out the view from behind at about 35 seconds in. Look at the way his knee bends.

http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=52944

I'm sorry for the cynicism but this looks bad, folks. Really bad.

The fact that he didn't go to the hospital is not a reason to think it's less serious. They won't probably do the MRI for a day or two anyways.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75, I think you're being silly.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 30, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I still cant believe this. This hit was less severe than the one against Gonchar. For all you pens fans here that call ovie a dirty player...Dennis Potvin deliberately broke a player's leg and still made the HOF. Apparently if you aren't washington and not in the NHL doghouse or Bettmans pal in P-Town you get called dirty..but look at Cookie..worse hit and suspension well deserved. Besides, Bobby Gould still beat Mario's ass

Posted by: GaryJ06 | November 30, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Remember how quickly Gonchar came back from his knee injury? One never knows.

GaryJ06: Thanks for reminding everyone to keep cursing potvin.

Posted by: uncatim | November 30, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

McPhee just said Ovechkin has a "lower body" injury.

Posted by: SA-Town | November 30, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

will he be suspended?

Posted by: gocaps01 | November 30, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

The only problem I have with the call on Ovi for THIS hit is that Gleason changed lanes (skating off the wall directly across the ice, which is VERY dangerous and something not at all smart) putting himself on Ovi's right at the last instant. Ovi was already skating to the left and therefore is highly unlikely to have intentionally put his knee out there.

Posted by: Kdarienzo | November 30, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

so far so good for the return of theo

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | November 30, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure suspensions are handed out regardless of whether a player is injured. I.e. It runs concurrent.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 30, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

@ tmactoyao

I've been saying the samething...

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I can't imagine anyone seriously thinking he intended to injure someone with a knee on knee collision.

As I understand it he gets a mandatory one game suspension for the second misconduct. He had to go 41 more games before he was in the clear. He almost made it. Only 39 left.

As far as speculation as to the injury. Seems more like a broken or bruised patella rather than a acl. We'll know in the morrow.

Posted by: rjma1 | November 30, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

@Uncatim
Any time, I have that Irish Alzheimers (an Irishman, like myself forgets anything but a grudge)
..We're playing well tonight though, I like the kill so far this evening. Yet another 5 min kill. Nobody has scored on a major against us this year.

Oh yeah...@ Uncatim...Billy "hack-em" Smith was pretty bad too

Posted by: GaryJ06 | November 30, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"@butcherbaker

acl, pcl and mcl are all ligaments....torn/tear/sprain etc.

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse"

Umm, yeah, I KNOW.

Posted by: butcherbaker | November 30, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

@ tmactoyao

@ 555MAss I've been saying the samething...

I watched the nhl video and it does look bad. You could see the lower leg buckle. I am worried!!!

Posted by: Satts | November 30, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

The caps d is doing okay and so is theo but man Carolina is just not very creative nor very aggressive in the offensive zone.

Posted by: NFeKPo | November 30, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

capsfan75--not funny. I remember you writing this once before and really didn't like the image. Just don't go there. Think positive. Be positive.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Also, for those who think you'll see an update on ovie in tomorrows paper, be prepared to wait a few days. I'm guessing we won't hear anything from the caps until Thursday maybe...just a guess so settle in and think good thoughts.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 30, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

This hit isn't nearly as bad as the Gonchar hit, ovie lead with the shoulder and Gleason clearly changed lanes. Blame must be asserted to both sides. However there is no way that ovie is going to escape with only his mandatory 1 game suspension.

Posted by: gringo184 | November 30, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

People, your speculation is folly, the rest of YOUR team is still playing.

PAY ATTENTION TO WHATS REAL!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | November 30, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

GM George McPhee said Alex Ovechkin won't have an MRI or an x-ray on his knee until tomorrow, and only if the team doctor deems it needed

Posted by: GaryJ06 | November 30, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

And Gleason gets the boarding....

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

There's been ALOT of penalties tonight.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

fronesis1016 - So, I'm a Caps fan and therefore not as schooled in hockey etiquette? Right. And you're with Cherry... great. I agree Ovie plays with reckless abandon, but to insinuate that he is not respectful of other players is unfair, and how do you know Bruce does not get in his face when he goes too hard and takes a major? He's a tough, hard-hitting power forward. I am glad Gleason returned, and hope Ovie does soon. You said it yourself about the other hits as being "questionable". Most have been.

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

what wtf_e_fehr said.

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

turning off the boards with the puck is not a particularly dangerous decision in hockey unless someone is charging you. No player should ever have to fear for his life by making a turn off the boards from his own zone to avoid a forecheck. Of course, a forecheck is normally a spatial strategy intended to cut off the defender's options, not a six-step reckless freight train like it is in Ovechkin's book. Playing the body on a forecheck is also a really bad idea because it could lead to an odd-man rush the other way.

Posted by: fronesis1016 | November 30, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

@kmr2r - Glad to see there is someone else out there who wants to hold the local hockey press accountable. SA-Town and NFekPo are exactly right - tomorrow the Caps press release will say "lower body injury, week-to-week" ("day-to-day" if we are very lucky, but I'm not counting on that). The local press will roll over, paws up, and dutifully report that. After that, they will ask GMGM every few days/weeks if there is any news. That will be the extent of the reporting on the injury.

Posted by: zmega | November 30, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

fronesis1016 - You obviously think you know more than you do.

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

omg..flash has had 2 glorious chances

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | November 30, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Well, McPhee's statements reflect exactly what 555Mass was saying earlier.

He said the MRI will not likely be performed tonight while they ice his knee for swelling.

The fact that it is swelling alone is very bad news.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 30, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

No need to go to the hospital now, he'll have too much swelling in his knee to even get him an MRI tonight.

Posted by: 555Mass | November 30, 2009 8:47 PM

Which is exactly what they said on the broadcast not too long ago....

Posted by: Chase4 | November 30, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

@ JEGA: is ur team really that god awful that you come here and feel the need to embaress yourself? get lost.

and if there is one thing you learn about CAPS fans..we stick together and support our boys on and off the ice.

Posted by: Bondra2Ovie | November 30, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

gonchpup: i've only played and followed hockey my whole life. Appreciate your running commentary there. Check's in the mail.

Posted by: fronesis1016 | November 30, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Is Giroux still here? Holy crap, he's soft

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

more penalties...

Posted by: elicea | November 30, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

and im very glad Gleason is okay and praying for Ovie

Posted by: Bondra2Ovie | November 30, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

fronesis1016 - And I haven't? Give me a break. For all we know, you might be a middle school girl that plays kickball.

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, what a blessing Gleason's okay. Otherwise he couldn't have come back and blatantly boarded Perreault. Lucky he's not hurt

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

OOO my first Capitals Insider childish debate! I can't believe it's been this long - what an initiation. Better go get all that pent up anger I've been saving up so I can anonymously bodyslam some nerds. Thanks gonchpup, ya really *ZINGED* me there - and, yes, I am a middle school girl that plays kickball! I'm also a troll, a Penguins fan, a Sean Avery-lover, and I cheer for the Yankees! Yes!

:: punches Semyon Varlamov on the way to the bench::

Posted by: fronesis1016 | November 30, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Holy crap, Juice put one ON GOAL!! Woo Hoo

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Theo looks like a GD superstar tonight. Incredible

Posted by: Chad8 | November 30, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

things would be sooo much worse for our ovie if GLeason was hurt...

Posted by: Bondra2Ovie | November 30, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Great game by Theo, IMHO he's the reason we won tonight. Of course, Nicky chipped in too. In fact, the whole team stepped it up after the first ten minutes or so.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 30, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns

I'll admit I'm paranoid about Ovi. It also seems that he has become the team's enforcer -- by default. Most of the guys he's done his worst hits to (Briere, Kaleta, Gleeson) are not exactly the best citizens int hockey).

Maybe we need to bring up a real enforcer so Ovi doesn't have to be the enforcer for our team. While I don't generally like the idea of enforcers who are pure enforcers, maybe we need one after all. Or at least a forward with some grit to be the enforcer on occasions when one is needed.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 30, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

@Bondra2Ovie--You are right. We Caps fans stick together and support our boys on ice. i do hope Ovi's injury isn't too damaging. I for one am not going to assume the worst. I will wait until we have some actual information--even if it's GMGM's famous "lower body injury." Good win. The rest of the team pulled it together.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75, You're being silly again.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 30, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

J Gill, is that you?

Posted by: lingering_lead | November 30, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Good discussion of the hit in the post-game show - a thoughtful and detailed discussion. Some interesting points - e.g., Ovi needs to go in with his stick down when he is hitting someone. Allan May is better than I thought he would be.

Posted by: zmega | November 30, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75 - We have Knuble, Clark, Bradley, and others up front -
plenty of grit. Ovie will be Ovie regardless. I still don't think he is trying to assume the enforcer role. He plays hard and on the edge. Every time he goes in on somebody we cringe, and the odds are that sooner or later the odds would get the best of him. Let's keep our fingers crossed, eh?

Posted by: gonchpup | November 30, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Ward apparently said in the Canes post game show that there is no place in hockey for Ovechkin's style of play. Allan May had previously mentioned that Ward speared Ovi in the stomach just prior to the big hit/injury. Big brass ones, Aaron.

Posted by: zmega | November 30, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I hear you capsfan75 but Ovi is into hits. That's part of his game. When he is "sleepy" as he calls it he's not being that physical in his game. When he is physical he is on his game. And goals happen. What he needs to develop is a better ability to pull back back from the gray area of his physical play, to be not as reckless. But he has to keep the physical part of the game. That is who he is. He is the heart and soul of this team. And he is with this team for a long time. But we are a very skilled team with a lot of depth. I'm really hoping that players like Knuble can show him how he can be tough and physical and gritty but control the edge with which he plays and not let it control him.

As for the injury itself, I think it's pointless to speculate--too many would be doctors online tonight. Of course he's injured--anyone can tell that. Ovi is so in tune with his body and has such a high pain threshold, we could tell it was bad from his reaction alone. I'm not going any farther with speculation than that. Get the MRI then we will get news--to a degree. it does come out eventually. How long did it take us to find out that it was Knuble's pinkie jammed on the goalie post and was sticking out sideways, pins etc.? Only now when he has started skating again.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree that I thought the whole team pulled it together really well. You could tell that they were worried, couldn't take pleasure in their goals, but that they were not going to lose. Backs and Theo were awesome and I use that word sparingly as I have a nine year old who uses it a lot. But they were. We are a good team.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

i hope 8 is severely hurt and is never the same. He has had this coming his way for a long long time. Its not intentional...right. Gonchar....Gleason...who is the common denominator here?

Posted by: laker23132 | November 30, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

@laker23132--what kind of despicable person would come onto the message board of an opposing team and wish this kind of harm onto a player. Go back to your team. Be a better fan. Be a better person. I have nothing but contempt for you and anyone of your ilk.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 30, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Well seeing as Gleason got a 10min game misconduct later in the same game, I'd be so bold as to say he caused the knee to knee hit...

Just like both coaches said ovi put his shoulder down and gleason made a move...they collided at the knee. Sounds like exactly what happened to Gonchar, take the hint, take the hit. You'll get up and keep going.

common denominator here is that players see Ovi and b!tch out, thats where injuries come from. You see guys get rocked, head over heels, breaking glass, landing awkwardly...all fine because it was a square hit. You move away from that and somethings going to happen.

Posted by: breaklance | November 30, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

i hope 8 is severely hurt and is never the same. He has had this coming his way for a long long time. Its not intentional...right. Gonchar....Gleason...who is the common denominator here?

Posted by: laker23132 | November 30, 2009 10:16 PM

The common denominator? BOTH players came back to play the same, you idiot. Gleason returned in the SAME GAME. How did that career ending injury to Goocher turn out? If anything I'd say the common denominator is both were embellishing the severity of their injuries.

Jealousy will get you nowhere.

Posted by: Chase4 | November 30, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

@Laker23132.

common denominator?? let me guess..you also think that our man Green is next on the list to be hurt by Ovie because his name starts with a "G" too? whatever team you come from clearly has no players of any high quality..so go ahead talk about our boys..we're loaded with talent.

Posted by: Bondra2Ovie | November 30, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I think it's just stupid that with all his talent Ovie has to play like a dirt bag. It's one thing to play with high intensity, he does that well, but it's another thing to play with intent to hurt another player's career. He has turned into a scumbag. Yes he is a great goal scorer but he is out to hurt people in a malicious way. He got what he deserved.

Posted by: notindc1 | December 1, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

It's bad enough some of you nutjobs try coaching and managing the Capitals from your friggin' armchairs and sofas and now, some of you are playing doctor from that as well. What are you people smoking/drinking, that you're pasting your faces to the screen testing the limits of your stupid dvr and rewind and slow-mo buttons?!! Ovi isn't known to be a dirty player. Agressive, maybe, and because of it, wankers like any Pens fan or the morons of the day, fronesis1016 and jega246, decide to show their inner pansy and express shock and horror and judgment. The other guy turned wrong and I'll give credit to Ovi to know better than to risk an injury to his knee on a dirty move like an intentional knee-on-knee hit. So...quit making it bigger than it really is. Sh*t happens in a fast-paced game and what happened last night, is just an example of it. Take a chill pill.

Hope you're well, Ovi. Get well soon, if not.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | December 1, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

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