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Ovechkin hurt (updated)

Alex Ovechkin left today's game at 6:10 of the second period with what could be an pectoral/shoulder/left arm injury.

The two-time MVP appeared to be injured earlier in the during a scrum near the Columbus bench that began when Jason Chimera bumped Ovechkin as the two passed one another. Ovechkin responded with a two-handed shove, setting off a fracas that included Jared Boll coming over and grabbing Ovechkin.

Chimera was apparently still angry about getting trucked by Ovechkin into the side boards late in the first period.

After the fracas, Ovechkin appeared to be favoring the left side of his upper body while he sat in the penalty box (for roughing). When he came out, he finished his next shift, but skated right to bench and headed to the dressing room.

He has not played since.

I'll have an update when the team makes an announcement.

Update: The Caps just announced that Ovechkin "may return." If he does, I'll post another update here.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  November 1, 2009; 6:27 PM ET
 
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Comments

I hope it's nothing serious.

LET'S GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: wocoliz | November 1, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

is he gonna play in the 3rd?

Posted by: zyvo23 | November 1, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Zyvo, no but he'll be back for the 4th quarter.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

ah... scary...

Posted by: mrszilla | November 1, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

This is really scary. The fact that no one knows anything is even more worrying.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | November 1, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

You want bread...?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Not surprising that the don't announce anything. It is a long season. Get healed up Ovie. Heal fully.

Posted by: lornemyoung | November 1, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

You want MORE bread ...? The bakery is busy tonight!!!!

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Knuble's penalty killing definitely turned the momentum into our favor.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Nice work by Knuble on the last goal, screening Mason.

Posted by: zmega | November 1, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

guess not. doh!

Posted by: zyvo23 | November 1, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

We're the WORST at trying to hold leads.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

we SUCK in overtime.

Posted by: Unleash_The_Caps | November 1, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

This team is really underachieving.

Something is just different about this team. It's not as dominant as it was last year. Very disappointing. How many times have we had a lead this year and watched it slipped away because of penalties?

Mike Green is having an awful year so far.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

At least we got a point.... :-(

Posted by: wocoliz | November 1, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

great effort by the rest of the team except for pothier and that awful lie down by poti in OT. He decided to take a nap at the wrong time. DUMB DUMB DUMB play on his part. Hes a dumb player. Also great game for Knuble right up to the point where he gave them a penalty to tie it up and Pothier gave them one in ot. The palyers continue to play dumb hockey at the end of games. Ovie better not miss much time because we will not win many games without him in the lineup.. Need new blood on the blue line. Poti is just DUMB

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah but we had TWO 1 goal leads in the third and couldn't close it out.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

This was the biggest joke of a game yet this season... The refs completely blew the game for us, There was only 24 seconds left and the caps tried to clear the puck but the refs had to interfere and get in the way...for some reason every time we play this stupid hillbilly team we get the worse...i remember in the 07-08 season Nash scored on Kolzig after the refs kcocked Morrissonn over leaving Heart of Nasty (Nash) all alone....but then tonight the bogus calls, mike green sucked real bad, and Ovie hurt.....SUperfantastic, this is so awesome

Posted by: masterx91 | November 1, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what could be up with Mike Green? He just doesn't look like himself at all. Where is his offense? And on defense he just let Nash blow right by him.

And I don't know what Theo was doing when he threw his stick behind the net. He looked like he did that on purpose. It sucks b/c Laing could've had the game winner.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

NO ONE on this team plays defense.
Must be the way they're coached, because NONE of our defensemen can/will clear the crease, NONE of the forwards get back, and they're constantly breaking out anticipating a change of possesion.
NOBODY on the Caps screens the opposing goalie, not even Knuble. Didn't he use to do that with the Flyers? He no longer does it, so one can only assume that he's being coached not do it.
We may win some games, maybe win a lot of games, but we won't get anywhere in the playoffs until these guys (and the coach) realize the importance of defense.

Posted by: scmonty1 | November 1, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I agree, rachel216. I'm trying to be positive (and it WAS sweet seeing Brooksie and Q score tonight!) but it's hard when we keep slipping up late.

Posted by: wocoliz | November 1, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Knuble screened all night.the most notable was on Laich's second goal..Pay attention..screening the goalie is not the problem

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

shh don't you realize, defense doesn't win championships, offense does. Or at least I've been told..

yeah, poti does suck and has for a while now. Another stellar FA signing. Other teams go get guys like Rivet. We get stuck with great veteran leaders like Poti.

Posted by: cstanton1 | November 1, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Bad calls, bad bounces &gr8 8 gets hurt; that was a hard game to take, & watch. Our defensemen do a lot of watching skaters go by.

Posted by: Max231 | November 1, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and we definitely can't say "well we got a point" when it's the playoffs. We need to learn to play smarter in OT, especially since this year we keep going into OT.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

if we can get some uneducated european team to take some of Nylanders salary we can free up some cap space and then make a trade. I think thats what GMGM is waiting on. Right now they cant afford to bring up Alzner or Carlson. Part of this problem is that bad cap move of signing Nylander...

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

OK now I've had enough of this BS. These Caps can't win a game for stepping on their own cranks. I don't know what Knuble's numbers are but doesn't he have a penchant for taking ill-timed penalties late in games? His last one was egregious, slashing a guy who was not a threat to score at the time. They tied the game on that one with about 24 seconds left. Then in OT Pothier cleans out a guy when the play was going up ice. STOP TAKING STUPID PENALTIES YOU STUPID BONEHEADS! Your stupidity has left another point off our plate and rewarded the nasty play of the other team. I can't emphazize it enough, SMARTEN UP!

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 1, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Max231- exactly. I'm SICK of watching guys blow by our defensemen, while they're just standing and watching.

Poti should just never play in OT. Ever.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

POSTGAME THOUGHTS:
Well wasn't that a downer. First off Jason Chimera: That is a marked man for the next meeting. If his sorry ass can't take a hit then he shouldn't be in this league. Whatever he did to Ovie hopefully gets looked at by the league. He's cheap SOB who can't take a hit. It's too bad someone didn't break his jaw.

Mike Knuble: What a screen job he did on Laich's second goal. That's the way this team should be playing but even more so if Ovie is out. They have to keep getting in front of the net. On the down side: he was the one preaching about stop taking dumb penalties and then he goes out and does it himself. That's inexcusable to take one that late.

Tom Poti: I'm finished with him. No one will defend him. In OT you DO NOT commit like that so early. THe player hadn't even maneuvered to shoot and once Poti went down he immediately dropped down and got the pass through before Poti could get up and set again. It's like a goalie committing when a shooter is at a blueline still deciding whether he wants to shoot or pass. Piss poor job of defense. He's out there almost EVERYTIME a goal is scored.

@Rachel216 - just helping you out - Theo didn't throw his stick behind the net. As he came off the post Knuble was close enough to the net that his stick got caught in him and he had to let it go. Unfortunate but it happened.

Still a gritty effort by this team when Ovie went down. I'm not worried about how they'll play if he's out for a little while. However, THIS TEAM NEEDS TO FIND A WAY TO PLAY SOME DEFENSE. This is getting old and inexcusable. If I'm GMGM I don't know how much longer I'd continue to sit and watch this piss poor defensive effort. I'm not panicking at all but I'd like to see some guys like Alzner and Carlson come up. IF YOU LOOK BACK TO LAST YEAR when this team was banged up in Nov. and Dec. they had Alzner and Sloan and guys like that on defense and they were tearing it up winning games with SOUND defense with those other D-men out. This is not all on the D-men either - the forwards have to COMMIT to playing 5-on-5 in BOTH ENDS. I still see that not happening. This is inexcusable and this team needs to start fixing the damn problem. I'm sick of this crap. I love the points of course but again - it's another game where guys have to sit in the lockerroom and scratch their heads. Ashame.

Up to Jersey to see the Devils on Wednesday. Ice Breakers Goal Shakers

Posted by: Jonathan6 | November 1, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Definitely the worst team in the league. What a bunch of losers. This team sucks so much. Smitty is the worst trainer in the league. i hate Jurcina's haircut.

Shut up people. This is absurd. The whining that always goes on in here is foolish. The team is 6-0-2 in their last 8. Theodore didn't throw his stick; the idea that he did is absurd and also is a penalty shot. Morissonn knocked it out of his hands. And stop complaining about the refs. They did a fine job tonight aside from the Steckel penalty. Pothier leans into Voracek in overtime and it was certainly a penalty. Can anybody (aside from a handful of you) just assess a game without going heavy on the whining.

The irony, of course, is that I am whining about people whining, but a bunch of you sound hilariously ridiculous every single time Tarik posts something.

Posted by: Aldred15 | November 1, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

jonathan6... unfortunately because of the cap your not going to see Alzner or Carlson unless someone is traded..thats McPhee's job and this year he aint earning his salary. Case in point, we lost Bourque because he had to be put on waivers hoping no one would claim him>>>>>

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Since there's a new thread copying my last 2 comments (post game) from the game thread:

I was about to write that this was a really great team win... how we really put a great effort together after Ovie went down.

Schucks. This just wasn't our night. Even our own boards were against us.

Hope Ovie is OK.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 8:05 PM

Gotta love those Green bashers. The dude plays 30 min a game and makes 30 sick plays (that almost no other D in the world can make) for every screw up, but some people only see the negatives.

BTW, Greenie wasn't even supposed to play tonight and still logged a ton of ice time. Yeah, he got burned fair and square by Nash, but Nash is a superstar for a reason. Also, I though Mo could've maybe come across behind Green to prevent Nash from skating across Theo.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 8:12 PM

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Aldred15- I think everyone (including me) is freaking out because the defense is horrendous and has not improved, and if that play by Poti happened in OT in the playoffs, we'd be done.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 1, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Aldred15,

Surely it's not too much to expect smart play is it? And I'm not whining, I'm frustrated by others stupidity.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 1, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I agree. You can point to individual mistakes by the d-men, but there needs to be a greater commitment to team defense when holding a lead late in games.

Posted by: zmega | November 1, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

@ irish15

How should McPhee "earn his salary"? Who should he trade to free up cap space to bring up Alzner and / or Carlson?

You should've watched the first installment of that new video show the Caps started. There was an extensive interview with McPhee in which he explained just how complex the job of an NHL GM is today. Perhaps you would have actually learned something. It's easy to run your yap when you don't know didly about what McPhee has to deal with. The guy barely ever gets a day off because he has to constantly monitor the cap. He's done great as our GM. His hard work and very intelligent management is one of the main reasons we have a very good team. I guarantee you that if he somehow became available tomorrow his phone would be ringing off the hook with offers from other teams.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Some of you will agree and some of you will stand in protest for sure: I think we put Varly in and leave him in. Theo should be used for back/back games and in case of injury only. I've been saying for a year that what is happening is he's sitting down too often, leaving net too often, and losing a little reaction speed gradually to the point now where it's a problem. No, I won't blame this game on Theo (although, technically, if he hadn't left the net, we would have won in regularion) but we don't have a team that will work past the 2nd period. While they are figuring out why, we need a goalie that does work past the 2nd period. He's undefeated this year. He had the most wins of any goalie when he was with Hershey--put him in, leave him in.

Posted by: wutzthedeal | November 1, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

I believe Knuble cost us a point and I believe he should be disciplined. Yes he played great in other parts of this game but that's no reason to be stupid at the end of his shift.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 1, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

@ Aldred15

Here ye, here ye. Every time we lose it's whine city on here. Actually even when we manage to hold on and win after sloppy 3rd periods it's whine city on here. All we need is some cheese now.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

This post by Tarik is wrong, I think. Ovie wasn't injured in the scrum. He was clearly injured when he collided with I think Torres (#14) right at the whistle later on. It was an awkward collision. They both went down and Ovie immediately grimaced and skated to the locker room.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Ranndino I agree about the whining, yet, just thinking about it tonight, what would be the point of always coming on here talking about how great everything went? I mean, whiners, to a degree, do help illustrate problem areas. Can you imagine if the last 50 posts would have been about how great Greenie's few checks were, or how badass that 5-pass sequence-score was? Then we'd read everything, be all happy, and look at the score again and say, "wait..." So, I guess I'm saying I'm glad people whine. I don't like habitual whiners, ESPECIALLY those that don't know our team very well, but the experienced fan who has some decent insight--I want to hear your whining.

Posted by: wutzthedeal | November 1, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Ranndino I think you're right again; my assesment was that he got a low=-body stinger... watch the spine during impact; it whips really fast back and forth at the lower lumbar area, yet he doesn't fall (lose sensation) or grimace (herniate disc) so I'm thinking leg stinger (where the leg feels like it's being electrocuted due to a short term pinched nerve in the low spine...) but we'll see...

Posted by: wutzthedeal | November 1, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Whine or not to whine that is the question. LOL. Sorry I couldn't resist. There are always pros and cons to wins and losses. However, the glaring deficiency of a D that lets opponents come free wheeling into the zone gets to be scary.

YET - there are times this team can look like world beaters. It's just a matter of patience and time to see how things play out.

GO CAPS :)

Posted by: Jonathan6 | November 1, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I mean he does fall, of course, but it's not the type of legs-gone fall that you see (as in knockout punch falls, where legs just immediately disappear) when somebody has lost control of their leg muscles. He never lost control--bounced up like a spring

Posted by: wutzthedeal | November 1, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

jonathan6... unfortunately because of the cap your not going to see Alzner or Carlson unless someone is traded..thats McPhee's job and this year he aint earning his salary. Case in point, we lost Bourque because he had to be put on waivers hoping no one would claim him>>>>>

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

the same chris bourque who has 0 goals and 1 point and has played in only 6 games this year? that guy? yeah, what a loss. q laing now has more goals than he does. mcphee's got a tough gig. you'll be thanking him when he resigns backs and semin to long term deals because he's managed to keep enough cap space available next year to fit those guys, alzner, carlson and varly under the cap...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

believe Knuble cost us a point and I believe he should be disciplined. Yes he played great in other parts of this game but that's no reason to be stupid at the end of his shift.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | November 1, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

first of all he didn't cost YOU anything...

were you saying OV should have been disciplined as well for aimless skating around in his own zone and didn't cover his man against the isles when they scored in the OT???

Posted by: joek443 | November 1, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

@ ranndino Wake up! This team was built on draft picks it acquired by trading away overpriced players. Remember how bad they were until basically Boudreau took over. I know I should give so much credit to McPhee for selecting, Ovechkin! Tough decision! Backstrom... probably kept him up the night before that selection huh! We had so many draft picks because the team was gutted under the leadership of Leonsis. Mcphee was so brilliant he decided to bring back Nylander, why? Because he had a bunch of assists while playing with one of the overpriced palyers we traded away! Signed to a contract that was laughed at at the GM meetings! Thats right laughed at. Now you know why. The only reason he is still GM is because he didnt screw up and pick hmmmm lets see yup Malkin with the pick who went second the same year. Go back and learn so things on your own so you can educate yourself and actually know what your talking about!! Maybe you work for him... In which case you may want to get your resume together!!

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

i believe the dasher boards behind theo in the second period should be disciplined...cost us a goal and the game..

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I haven't heard of too many pec injuries. Whatever it is will probably take a while to fully heal. Not sure how tight the upcoming schedule is. We may have to miss him for few games. The important thing is that he heals completely. Semin, that means you're the one now.

Actually I'm sort of relieved. I thought it was a foot, ankle during that incident just before he left for good. Looked like what happened to Cooley last week. Are we allowed to bring them up?

Posted by: rjma1 | November 1, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

LMAO @ dcsportsfan1

that's a good one :)

Posted by: joek443 | November 1, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Not really feeling the love between Caps fans here lately... think I'll go back to just reading news...

Posted by: wutzthedeal | November 1, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan1 you are really disillusioned if you think hes getting Backstrom and Semin under the cap. Did you take math ...ever... add the numbers. Semin is getting traded take it to the bank...
It's a forgone conclusion. Man you guys really don't know anything about this thing to you...I'll let you guys live in your little world...But when it happens you will know where you heard it from first.


Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

This team was built on draft picks it acquired by trading away overpriced players. Remember how bad they were until basically Boudreau took over. I know I should give so much credit to McPhee for selecting, Ovechkin! Tough decision! Backstrom... probably kept him up the night before that selection huh! We had so many draft picks because the team was gutted under the leadership of Leonsis.
+++
he genius, who do you think made those trades? charley casserly? who traded bondra for laich, lang for flash and green, witt for varly etc. you think ted pulled the trigger on those deal??? do you? go ahead and focus on nylander, please. i'm sure you were in the room at the GM meeting when they all laughed at mcphee. perhaps you are the one in need of some education. go take a chill and check back in in april.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

LOL. 99% of the post on here are whining(giving any sort of negative critique apparently) about the way the team is playing, or whining about the whiners( like blowing sunshine up everyone's arse is the only correct way to be a fan).

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | November 1, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

hey irish, they got about 22M in cap space for next year, maybe more depending upon nyls. you think they can fit those guys under there??? you got some super secret numbers from the gm meeting you want to share with the rest of us. there are lot of folks here who know more than enough about how this team works. we dont really need you to educate us.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

wutzthedeal:
there is a huge leap between whinning and analytical criticism. my vote is for NO whinning. it's amazing how a winning team can bring out the worst in some fans when the team doesn't 'live' up to expectations

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 1, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan1 you are really disillusioned if you think hes getting Backstrom and Semin under the cap. Did you take math ...ever... add the numbers. Semin is getting traded take it to the bank...
It's a forgone conclusion. Man you guys really don't know anything about this thing to you...I'll let you guys live in your little world...But when it happens you will know where you heard it from first.


Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse


yawn... just a typical rant by a guy who thinks he knows it all

Posted by: joek443 | November 1, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

22 million under a cap that hasn't been announced yet is awesome dcsportsfan1!! i'm impressed. Maybe go look up there current status and and see how they plan on signing...oh forget it it's not worth it. Suffice it to say, You are stuck with the D you got unless Nyls gets traded AND the team takes his salary... Keep reaching though your learning!!1

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

@irish15-you've got to be kidding. Cool down buddy. @rachel216-Theo didn't drop his sick-it got caught in the netting and a player. I unfortunately had to watch the game tonight on television but had the benefit of replay. As for Green, it's clear his knee or something hurts. And Poti at the end was unfortunate though he played well earlier in the game. But in general though the game was frustrating and I think the guys were angry and undisciplined and made some plays I'm sure they wish they could have back, they didn't let up. Posters here have been complaining about how they get complacent. They didn't play that way today. And geez the calls were bad--that one on Steckel for goalie interference when he was the one slashed in the midsection was just bad. REALLY BAD.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | November 1, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I've never understood the fascination of worrying about the salary cap... they have a GM and other people who get paid to worry about that stuff.

I'd rather just watch the games, enjoy the moment and let THEM worry about all that stuff.

Posted by: joek443 | November 1, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

22 million under a cap that hasn't been announced yet is awesome dcsportsfan1!! i'm impressed. Maybe go look up there current status and and see how they plan on signing...oh forget it it's not worth it. Suffice it to say, You are stuck with the D you got unless Nyls gets traded AND the team takes his salary... Keep reaching though your learning!!1

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

yeah, your're probably right. The cap will drop significAntly next year. Probably by $10 m or so...so silly of me to assume that. Unless the NHL has already said they don't expect it to drop much if at all next year..which they have. Education is a wonderful thing...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

@joe443--I'm with you. Let's just watch the game--even the frustrating ones. I don't understand why some posters have even brought the salary cap up now in the aftermath of a game one month into the season. I do hope the Russian Machine is okay.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | November 1, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 1, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

see it only took you 16 minutes to do some research!! good for you dcsports! I proud of you. Semin will be traded!!!

Posted by: irish15 | November 1, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

@ irish15

Gutting the team was a conscious decision on the part of the Caps management. That's the only way you can rebuild in today's NHL. McPhee discussed that, as well, in his interview. He is responsible for rebuilding the team from scratch and has done a great job of it.

Your reply to me confirms you as a complete idiot. We have nothing more to discuss as it would be a complete waste of my time. You are the one who doesn't know what you're talking about and it's extremely obvious to everyone who does. Not to mention your rambling delivery and nonsensical garbage about me working for McPhee. Yeah, just because I actually understand all the complexities of what he has to do and appreciate his work I must work for him. Quite a leap in logic there, pea brain.

You're one of those typical morons who think they can do everyone's job better and yet have no capacity to even begin to understand what that job actually requires. I'm sure that whatever you do for a living doesn't require much mental prowess.

@ wutzthedeal

There's a difference between retarded whining of people who have the mental capacity of an amoeba and pick on every little mistake made by our best players, yet constantly praise our grinders and analytical analysis by someone who is actually knowledgeable and intelligent. Like I said, Green was not even supposed to play tonight and logged a ton of ice time. You also have to be completely blind not to see all the good things he does in every game. Boudreau is not an idiot and knows hockey through and through. He wouldn't play Greenie 30 minutes in every game if he was as bad as some of our "experts" would have us believe. Like I said, the dude makes 30 great plays for every bad mistake. There isn't one player in the NHL that doesn't make mistakes. Some people have unrealistic expectations. If any of you got on the ice during an NHL game it would be a complete blur to you. You have to make split second decisions all the time and there are many variables. It's impossible to never make any mistakes. You see Green make more mistakes than say, Laing, simply because he's on the ice 3 times as much.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@newbiecapsfan07

You're right. Green is hurt. He admitted to a fan at the Collectors Show that his knee was hurt. And, Corey in his blog for the Washington TImes, said the Backstrom and Green were both questionable.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 1, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

@ irish15

2 more things.

1. I'm fully awake, but thanks for checking.

2. Speaking of educating yourself I suggest taking English 101 again. Reading your incoherent babbling is made even more annoying by your broken English.

BTW, how typical of a pea brain idiot to still stick to your talking point after dcsportsfan1 stuffed you with indisputable facts.

Tool.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

@ wutzthedeal

If you've been on here for a while you know I'm far from being a Theo fan, but blaming him for that freak bounce off the boards goal is insane. Every goalie in the NHL would've left the net to get that puck coming around. It was just a very bad break. Nothing he could do about it.

I agree with the rest of your analysis. Even though he's been much better so far this year than he was last year he's a goalie on the decline and isn't very good anymore. As I've said many times before Varlamov is far superior in every facet of the game. Had Boudreau not finally "listened to me" and replaced Theo with Varly in last year's playoffs we would have been knocked out in the first round.

Posted by: ranndino | November 1, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I'm seeing a lot of loyalist Theo fans basically wanting to give him an emotional "gift," because he WAS good but ESPECIALLY because of what he has been through. Think about this for a second. Awarding a position to somebody because of what they have been through? (Sorry, John McCain--not how we do biz.) You put your most skilled guy in, everytime. I KNOW Theo has more experience; I KNOW Varly is a little weak on the glove side and has less experience, but I also KNOW that Varly finished first in wins with Hershey, I think he's undefeated this year, and if you've even seen two or three games of his, you know he has lightning fast reaction time and the sharpest focus I've EVER seen (for example, tonight, when the bj deked across the blue and beat theo's left leg, theo was playing the GUY, Varly always locks onto the PUCK, and I think that's the difference--when you see the puck move, you see Varly move--it's like they're connected... with Theo, it's almost like he's try to fool the skater as to which position he might be in at shot time--bad strategy. Bad.)

Posted by: wutzthedeal | November 1, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

And I fully disagree about any goalie in the league coming out of net for that puck; first of all, I didn't blame him for our loss. I only said that technically, if he had not come out of net, he would have been in position and not left a gaping, wide-open net. Every goalie knows that can happen, and I am absolutely, 100% certain that most goalies who see offensive players past the blue line will NOT come out of net, ESPECIALLY on a V shot/rebound off the boards (which are HIGHLY unpredictible). That was a dumb move--I didn't want to take it this far, but to hear you say any goalie would have done that--sorry, not buying that brand.

Posted by: wutzthedeal | November 1, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

My favorite part of this string is the part where the Caps made an apologist video where, apparently, McPhee gets to explain how hard his job is.

Posted by: Jumpy66 | November 1, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

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