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Ovechkin Playing Mind Games

Okay, so Alex Ovechkin just addressed the media. He spoke about handing the pressure ("I just play my game," he said) and how he planned to get his shots through the Rangers' shot-blockers. ("You're going to see," he said.)

Then things got really interesting when he was asked why he sat on the Caps' bench during the Rangers' morning skate.

"I just [wanted] Tortorella [to get ticked] off -- and he was," the reigning MVP cracked, referring to Rangers Coach John Tortorella.

Asked why he thought the Rangers asked him to leave, Ovechkin smiled again and said, "They afraid of me."

Tortorella refused to discuss the matter, saying, "Ask me about the game. Don't ask me about that [stuff]."

Update: A Rangers official just told me that Tortorella was not aware of Ovechkin sitting on the bench, which, he said, is against league rules. A team trainer actually requested that Ovechkin leave the bench.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  April 20, 2009; 12:12 PM ET
 
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Comments

An Ovie hat trick tonight would be a great way to get into their minds.

Posted by: cbs75 | April 20, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I hope Ovie can back some of these shennanigans up.

Posted by: ridgely1 | April 20, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovie watched that Flyers game yesterday, and thought it was the type of hockey needed to win when your back is up against the wall.

The Caps must want to get in a grudge match...

Posted by: SA-Town | April 20, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see Ovie full of confidence. I'm sure were gonna get a show from him tonight..

Posted by: wowkanut | April 20, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I lOVe it!

Posted by: CPortisRun | April 20, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

OV is making this personal. My money is on the Russian Machine.

Posted by: CPortisRun | April 20, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Ovie could be setting himself up for a complete disaster. If he does not pull a multi-point and winning game he will be laughed at as they were when celebrating against the Canes a month or so back. Grow up and play "PLAYOFF" hockey not little capitals mind games.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

1) Mind games and assorted crap is all fine, but ultimately its about what you do ON the ice AO!
2) Torts got it right. Concentrate about the game, not gamemenship!
http://newfaux.blogspot.com/

Posted by: fauxrumors | April 20, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I love it. I don't care who you are that there is funny!

Posted by: capsfan01 | April 20, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovie accomplished what he set out to do. It definitely got Fonzi's panties in a bunch.

Posted by: ShariLeigh131 | April 20, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Diner, couldn't disagree more. Ovie's at his best playing off his emotions and he seems to be ready to not grip the stick quit so tight and let fly. He'll back up the talk. I feel so much better about tonight after Tarik's last two posts. Why not get under their skin a little? So far this series has had anywhere near the edge that the Flyers series had last year. Maybe getting the blood a little badder is exactly what we need

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Also - Question for Tarik:

Has Fonzi ever addressed the media without using profanity? Not that I find it offensive, it just makes him seem all the more uneducated.

Posted by: ShariLeigh131 | April 20, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE IT! Caps take 2 at MSG and bring it back home Friday. Caps in 7!

Posted by: LetsGoCaps2 | April 20, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

This team needs to get in the rangers head after allowing them to get into theirs!

Posted by: Ovechwin | April 20, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

OV was on THEIR bench cause he wants to be on a winning team! The Clown is still up to his circus act, instead of playing hockey.. ME ME ME OV! Will some one tell OV that job is left to the coachs, not a player...and not your star player.. What do you now think the other guys in the dressing room are thinking ..HE IS A SHOW ON HIS OWN!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

just in case anyone cares. Watched the Varly interveiw a few times and thres no way there he actually said that his hands were shaking before the montreal game. He said he was nerveious be def not as bad as he was in Montreal. This poor translation is why Semin does not want to give interveiws, for example. Semin was asked his personal goal for goals scored he said "its bad to set personal goals for the season who knows what will happen for example when i got injured for nearly half a seson it just didnt work out of me" but this retarded translator decided to throw in "when i got injured last season where the hell where my goals then"
hes a moron!

Posted by: madboost35 | April 20, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Man, this is crazy. Ovi isn't trying? He needs to do so much more? Theo's beat on a GWG in game 1 and the defense doesn't cover a 2-on-1 in game 2, and this is where the fans are? Our offense struggled in the second game against a pretty good defensive game plan but we did have some good chances that rang off the pipes. I don't like being down 2-0, at all, but I still think the Caps can win the series and I don't feel the need to sort out if Ovi is trying or not.

Posted by: saintex | April 20, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

As Cherry told him before" OV your better than than "...ACT THE PART!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I have a question for everyone. Gabby has been known for tinkering with the lines all season long looking for what works best for the team. Why is it then that I have not seen 1 single line change so far?

Also, I love what Ovi did.

Posted by: pkendrick | April 20, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

As Cherry told him before" OV your better than that "...ACT THE PART!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The only mind game OV is playing is with the press.

Hint to reporters:

"Ask me about the game. Don't ask me about that dumb [stuff]." - Torts.

Posted by: opita1 | April 20, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"They afraid of me."

The goals are one thing, but comments like these are why I love the guy, hahaha

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Pretty funny, but OV and the Caps need to worry about winning instead of clowning the other team.

Posted by: decoy13 | April 20, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Here are numbers we want answered...instead of Tarik and Wise quoting the 12.7% - unqualified - number

All is not dark for the Caps: 68 times in NHL history has the road team won the 1st two games on the road – and only 34 times (50%) has that (lesser) team gone on to win Game 3. Of course, history suggests that the Rangers still have a 76% chance (52-16) of taking the series.

By "lesser" team it means seed - it's not a moral judgement!

From http://www.whowins.com/2009series/nhl2009b.html:

Posted by: saintex | April 20, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

THIS is why you will always be the "NO CUP CAPS" by allowing this stuff to go on...

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Bruce swapped Semin from line 2 to line 1 later in both games.

Posted by: saintex | April 20, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Ovie having his fun. Big deal. Likely won't make any difference either way. He will still show up and be the hardest working player on the ice and with any reasonable luck, we will have the "W" for it. Go Ovie and Go Caps!

Posted by: _Mark | April 20, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

@ SC1907 and Cherry

I know, God forbid someone have a personality. Get a life, people.

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Stanley - Why do you have the Caps so much? Who is your team? And if you dislike them so then why are you here?

Posted by: pkendrick | April 20, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I think OV is doing everything he can to get a win tonight. Including stirring the pot a little bit. For those who think that gamesmanship isn't part of hockey. WAKE UP! Ultimately it is settled on the ice but anything you can do to get the other team off its game within limits is fine. Why do you think we always hear i.e. "Lower Body Injury" or Day to Day" It's because you don't show your hand until it is absolutely necessary. Its gamesmanship.
OV is just putting a stick in bee hive. Good for you OV - Go get them and Lets Go Caps

Posted by: psugolf | April 20, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Torts has no problem bringing up dumb [stuff], as it was so eloquently put, unprovoked (see: Wednesday's post game).

I didn't know it was possible, but my respect for the man is firmly in negative numbers.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 20, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"THIS is why you will always be the "NO CUP CAPS" by allowing this stuff to go on..."

Um, Sean Avery?

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Ya they are afraid of you O for .....19 they are shaking in their Tacks!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Piss Torts off by winning four games in a row!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | April 20, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

As usual, Torts wants to have it both ways...after winning Game 1, he whines about the two areas which the Caps won statistically in Game 1 (and who cares about statistics)--face-offs and power plays--but now won't talk about having Ovie kicked off the bench...what a tool he is...

I'd sure like to see some veteran leadership displayed on the ice...these guys don't seem to know what it takes to win in the playoffs yet, although Fedorov certainly does...you saw it with Langway, Stevens and Hunter in '90, and Hunter, Oates and Tinordi in '98...but I haven't seen much from our guys...I so well remember Game 1 of the '98 finals in Detroit...Yzerman was essentially playing on one leg...early in the game, he drives to the net, Hunter completely goons him up, no whining, no complaining, just kept playing and contributing...we need some of that...

Posted by: NorthFork1 | April 20, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

i could do without this. we are down 2-0 and OV has nothing to show for it.

Posted by: doughless | April 20, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

saintex - I saw that but that was at the end of the game with only a couple of minutes left. That's not really a change but more of an overload on 1 line to try and get a goal.

The NFL line did a great job in those few games they played together. Why not go back to that?

Posted by: pkendrick | April 20, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

The Caps are at their best when they are emotionally involved in the game. I say pick a fight with any and everyone in the NYR organization.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 20, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he could have used that time to fire a few pucks at a goal in the zamboni room

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

stenlycup is a keyboard warrior, its a fact, leave this guy alone and dont let him get in your head. All he can do is type away but when the actual time comes to face facts he runs away and hides exactly what he will do if the caps win tonight.

Posted by: madboost35 | April 20, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

"Think about the game not on silly mind stuff"

Of course...the game isn't until tonight so not much you can do about it yet, no?

Do whatever you need to Ovie to get in their heads and pump yourself up.

5-2 win, calling it.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 20, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"Ya they are afraid of you O for .....19 they are shaking in their Tacks!"

Do they even make Tacks anymore?

Posted by: pkendrick | April 20, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Question for Tarik:

I guess I can kind of understand not having a real practice yesterday, but why not have the players watch film? Would they do that on game day?

Posted by: jhamond1 | April 20, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

at least his team mates would have thought omg OV is getting into this series ! If his team mates think this was a good move they are bigger idiots than he is !

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"keyboard warrior"

Awesome.

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Brilliance on the part of Ovechkin. Giving the Rangers something else to think about.

Watch, tonight he goes bonkers and gets 4 or 5 points and they chase Lundqvist...

Posted by: MikeL-Caps91 | April 20, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Goals set the standard for wins just like ovie says. Right now he has none. The team does not effectively crash the net and that cost them game 2. The same thing is occuring with the sharks. Thornton and Marleau are playoff soft and Boyle and Green are similar type players and they are being stymied. Crash the net tonight and you can get a win. Play regular season hockey and you will be one step closer to summer vacation.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Sorry but this is classless and will put a price on Ovie's head. You don't walk up to a team that's up 2-0 on you and say they're afraid of you. Not that Ovie cares, and that's why we love him...I'm just saying, don't be surprised when he's a target tonight. Nice media-influenced drama here but there are better ways to do this...

Posted by: fronesis1016 | April 20, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"Play regular season hockey and you will be one step closer to summer vacation."

diner's got it

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I'd sure like to see some veteran leadership displayed on the ice...these guys don't seem to know what it takes to win in the playoffs yet, although Fedorov certainly does...you saw it with Langway, Stevens and Hunter in '90, and Hunter, Oates and Tinordi in '98...but I haven't seen much from our guys...I so well remember Game 1 of the '98 finals in Detroit...Yzerman was essentially playing on one leg...early in the game, he drives to the net, Hunter completely goons him up, no whining, no complaining, just kept playing and contributing...we need some of that...

Posted by: NorthFork1 | April 20, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY someone that knows hockey enters the room..I was getting lonely in here!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

how about you win a game or score a goal first. then do dumb stuff like this...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Let it be noted that the "expert" hockey analysts here, cstanton and stanleycup1907 and cheef, ALL said that the Sharks were going all the way without any trouble this year.

carry on...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh Stanley you are good you! "No Cup Caps", that some funny stuff; you are a funny person with the funny stuff. First off its 2 vs. 0 and not 4 vs. 0 so anything can happen. Did you actually quote something that came out of Don Cherry's mouth. Talk about a me kind of person with all those stupid outfits. From what you have wrote so far it makes sense that you take advice from a jackass.

Posted by: Caps73 | April 20, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I too have wondered if stanleycup was, in fact, Sean Avery. Some of the things that have come from him have been Avery like. Has he posted during a game?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 20, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

A price on Ovie's head? Like they weren't trying to try to hit him anyway? Good grief. If this makes the Rangers play any differently, then good for Ovie. Especially if they go after him and put themselves at a disadvantage.

Posted by: _Mark | April 20, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

so are we talking about the capitals from a wile back that got bounced by Pitt time and time again? Up 3-0 and blow the series? Yes you guys are right it probably better be up 3-0 and loose then be 0-2 or 3-1 and make a series out of it.

Posted by: madboost35 | April 20, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry but this is classless and will put a price on Ovie's head. You don't walk up to a team that's up 2-0 on you and say they're afraid of you

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

@stanleycup

The way the Rangers have played, they are very afraid of the Caps offense.

They want to win this thing, by making less mistakes...and clogging the middle.

Hey...whatever you have to do to win...but the Rangers are playing like a team on it's heels.

Posted by: SA-Town | April 20, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I think some of you guys are missing the point. Ovie's personality is what it is. This kind of stuff is what makes him tick. He NEEDS to do this stuff to get himself in the right frame of mind. I haven't seen happy, loose Ovie this series until today. It's not the way I would handle myself, and most players aren't into talking, but don't try and take the personality away from him. Let it go. We're 6 hours away from the best playoff game of his career so far, I can feel it.

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Greg S:

I completely agree: "I don't get where Lundqvist is suddenly unbeatable. We hit him for 3 in game 1. Our problem was no D and no goalie."

The buzz around him is feeding off on itself and before long Lundqvist will be depicted as a threat to entire nations, not just a team.

I love Ovie's attitude and the fact that he absolutely thrives on challenge and competition.

Did someone seriously suggest that Ovie is in danger of being "ridiculed" if he does not perform tonight? The guy has nothing to prove at this point. He has already been established as one of the greatest athletes in history.

Posted by: caraveli | April 20, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

SC1907. There is a reason that you feel lonely in here. It is the same reason that you are lonely everywhere else. A worrisome troll that doles out and feeds on negativity is usually pretty lonely.

Posted by: _Mark | April 20, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Stanley unlike you OV is pretty freaking funny and to be objective here; again unlike you I am pretty sure the Rangers are smart enough to decifer smack talking from humor!

Posted by: Caps73 | April 20, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

caps have rangers on their heels no doubt, shots on goal, time of possesion and so forth usually with stats like that you win not loose, its going to go in just hopfully sooner then later.

Posted by: madboost35 | April 20, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"joke" - something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act

"keyboard warrior" - StanleyCup1907

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

A price on Ovie's head? Like they weren't trying to try to hit him anyway? Good grief. If this makes the Rangers play any differently, then good for Ovie. Especially if they go after him and put themselves at a disadvantage.

Posted by: _Mark | April 20, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I know, like the Rangers just figured out today that they should be stopping Ovie? I think everyone in the NHL figured out they should be stopping him the day he stepped out on the ice.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 20, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"The guy has nothing to prove at this point. He has already been established as one of the greatest athletes in history."

Until the Caps get some series wins under their belts, be has plenty left to prove.

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

fronesis - To follow up on Mark's point, if they go after him even more then they already are then that means that someone else will be even more open. And do you remember the next game against the Lightning after the "Hot Stick" game? They were targeting Ovi more and he drew more penalties.

I say bring it on and I know Ovi does as well.

Posted by: pkendrick | April 20, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Alex could be setting himself up as the sole Ranger target tonight. This could work to the Caps advantage IF his linemates and teammates make the Rangers pay for their possible obsession with #8. However, it also could just make the Rangers all the more eager to put this series away. I think Alex is the best player in the world, but maybe staying quiet and showing them up on the ice tonight would have been the better way to go... But whats done is done. Go Alex! GO CAPS!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 20, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Update: A Rangers official just told me that Tortorella was not aware of Ovechkin sitting on the bench, which, he said, is against league rules. A team trainer actually requested that Ovechkin leave the bench.

----

Hmmm, the league has rules about morning skate/practice? I would be interested in being pointed to the NHL Rule that was violated.

Posted by: CapsChick | April 20, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

this is what we need, our guys know all about scoring on henrik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL9Y9yxC7qI&feature=related

Posted by: madboost35 | April 20, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

caraveli - I have to agree with wesvenis on this one. Ovi does have to prove he can win in the playoffs before he becomes "No Show Joe"

Posted by: pkendrick | April 20, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Until the Caps get some series wins under their belts, be has plenty left to prove."

It's not just him on the team.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 20, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Let it be noted that the "expert" hockey analysts here, cstanton and stanleycup1907 and cheef, ALL said that the Sharks were going all the way without any trouble this year.

carry on...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:51 PM |

Could they be the same person?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Ovie wanted to watch a team practice that knows how to win in the playoffs?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | April 20, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

This is all you have to give us? How about some locker room Q & A, Boudreau, Tortorella, players... Alex sitting on the bench during Ranger practice is interesting but we have the most important game of the year to date and that's what you give us?

Posted by: chasedano@gmail.com | April 20, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Lyle.... bah hahahahahaha.... nice

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

*note* I'm a Caps fan...but one that can laugh a little

Posted by: wesvenis | April 20, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Sorry but this is classless and will put a price on Ovie's head. You don't walk up to a team that's up 2-0 on you and say they're afraid of you

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:53 PM


I'm sorry, I meant to say that I'm a huge loser who spends all day in my Mama's basement trolling the message boards of the actually good teams in the NHL. I personally am afraid of my own shadow.

Posted by: StanleyCup19O7 | April 20, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

now you cant even quote, please go back your mamas basement and continue watching kitty porn.

Posted by: madboost35 | April 20, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

interesting sub-plot: Fedorov and Avery were both on the Red Wings 2001-2002 Cup winning team. Avery, however, wasn't deemed eligible for a ring or getting his named engraved on the Cup.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 20, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Once again we have haters among us. Just ignore them. Its lunch/free time at the mental hospital and they come here to play.

Posted by: RedRocker | April 20, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY someone that knows hockey enters the room..I was getting lonely in here!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 20, 2009 12:50 PM |



Bu then again, I've been lonely my entire life. Both of my friends are imaginary.

Posted by: StanleyCup19O7 | April 20, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have a tampon I can borrow?

Posted by: StanleyCup19O7 | April 20, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@madboost35

kitty porn? As in non-pedophilic, but involving cats? where did that come from? lol.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Probably not the smartest move on Ovi's part.

Posted by: superpaqman | April 20, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

A sense of humor is a little light in the darkness.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | April 20, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Avery, however, wasn't deemed eligible for a ring or getting his named engraved on the Cup.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 20, 2009 1:10 PM

Why ineligible, not enough playing time?

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, he didn't play enough games to qualify.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

From gonchpup in the previous thread: Focusing on the Caps here-
2 years ago, on the last day of the season, which is fan-appreciation day, we were outdone by busloads from Buffalo. It was embarassing. Each time OV touched the puck he was booed as if the game was being played up north. Finally, we are filling the seats with Caps fans, but this new generation knows little and wants to do more complaining than applauding. Support your team. Have faith in coaching decisions. Trust that these guys know a hell of a lot more than we do. I guarantee they ARE working their asses off because I am pretty sure they would like to hoist the cup...you think?


@gonchpup: I could not have said that better myself, THANK YOU. I was at that game I remember the piercing chant the F'in Sabres fan were saying as the clock ran out. Do you remember what it was? I do, and it was all I could do not to flip out because Briere speared OV yet again that game. The chant was...Season's over.
I don't know about the rest of you fans but I am not ready for THIS season to be over and I doubt the any one of the Caps want to pack up their crap and go home this week. They've dreamed of raising the Cup more times than we've dreamed of watching them do it.

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 20, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I actually thought that I had made a decent point or two before StanleyCup1907 complimented me, but now I need to rethink that...yikes...complimented by a troll...

I think what Ovie did was way cool, and if it distracts the Rags great, if not, so what...Ovie is what he is...however, he needs to stop trying to do too much and let the game come to him...I'd hate like heck to seem him turn out to be another Jagr...other than numbers, what did Jagr accomplish after the core of veteran leadership--Trottier, Francis, Ulf, Murph and probably some other guys I'm forgetting--left the Pens or got too old--NADA--

If Ovie's trying to stir up some stuff, and take some of the pressure off of the rest of the guys, good for him

Posted by: NorthFork1 | April 20, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Laich and Flash need to stand in front of King Hank and not to the side of him. They need to be a real DB and irritate him like Avery or Stanley1907.

Posted by: Caps73 | April 20, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I haven't been able to find the NHL rule on practice skates, etc. but I'd guess it's something similar to the NFL. I think the violation by the Patriots back in 2001 was not because someone - anyone - was at the morning Rams practice but the fact that it was taped. In this situation, clearly Ovi can be there they just don't want him on the bench, being as they offered him in a seat in the stands. I would have just walked over about thirty feet and stood right on the glass and watching.

Posted by: saintex | April 20, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

BTW, here's the hit on Timonen that I mentioned above in case you haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhrdc_yC_g

To immediately get up from that... that's tough! You can be a tough hockey player without being a fighter. In my book getting up and finishing the game after sustaining a crushing blow like that is very tough. I've always respected Kimo, but he has grown even more in my eyes. Would love to have him on the Caps. Brilliant d-man.

Posted by: ranndino | April 20, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

me me me me ovie, not a team leader, cant play defense, will never win cup in d.c.

Posted by: ASHLAS1 | April 20, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Ranndino...absolutely, 100% right on...at 5' 10", 194 lbs, Kimo is one of the toughest guys in the game...would love to have him on the Caps...Yzerman was as tough as they come as well, and no fighter either...

Posted by: NorthFork1 | April 20, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I saw that hit live. Ouch. Timmonen is probably one of the top 3 defenders against Ovie.

I love playoff hockey.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Northfork1 hate to tell you that jagr was a better player than ovie is. look at the numbers, ovie wont touch him. And one more thing jagr has 2 cups ovie wont get one where he is playing now. Plus jagr played in the clutching and holding days. ovie's crap celebrations would of never happened back then.

Posted by: ASHLAS1 | April 20, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I love when people say OV is selfish when over half his points are assists and he always finishes in the top 10 or 15 each season in assists but yet he is selfish or a me player. He has a plus raiting and he does play defense but the Caps really don't pay him for that. They do pay him the put the puck in the net and bring energy to the team which he does. ASHLA1, think before you speak!

Posted by: Caps73 | April 20, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

@fronesis1016 and the rest of you boneheads that think what OV did today makes him a target. HE'S BEEN A TARGET SINCE THE 10th GAME OF HIS ROOKIE SEASON. He was on the Caps bench, not the Rangers, and he was watching a team practice on game day. Not unusual, just not supposed to be done from the bench. Did OV know that? Maybe, maybe not. This is his 4th road playoff game of his career and the Caps gave the Rangers Verizon Center to skate in while that were at KCI. I would encourage my players to watch the opposing team practice. It gets them thinking about hockey earlier.

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 20, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

ASHLA1 you cannot be serious to compare that DB Jagr to OV. Place that *ussy Lemieux on a team with OV and he probably would have scored 70 plus goals. OV is bigger, stronger, faster, and he has heart; something Jagr lacked! GTF outa here with that nonsense!

Posted by: Caps73 | April 20, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin should have asked Fonzie to do a TSN Quiz. Fonzie would have truly soiled his spiderman underoos.

The only good thing about that dufus coaching again is he's not throwing out verbal bon mots on TSN. When you make one long for the intellectual giant of Mike Milbury...you're saying something.

Don't worry...Fonzie will flip his wig at some point and start throwing his players under the bus (esp. his goalies).

Posted by: jcurrin | April 20, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I REFUSE to call Lundqvist anything other than by his name, or his position. He's not King of anything. We've hit him for 3 goals in game one, 13 throughout the season. When a team scores that much, you're a pawn, not a king.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 20, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

ASHLAS1

Sounds like SC changed it's nickname to ASHLAS1 .

Posted by: Greg S. | April 20, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin and Jagr aren't really comparable.

Bure is probably a better comparison for Ovechkin.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

ASHLAS1: If the "clutch and grab" era was so bad why were there more goals being scored? Players like Lemieux and Jagr were also hooking specialists who created scoring chances. In today's game Semin is sent to the box for the same infractions.

At the risk of being booed out of here too, the softest superstar the league ever had was it's greatest player. Wayne Gretzky was not a big man, and always had someone on the ice that had his back. He was a phenomenal player but if we're going to call superstars soft, you have to call out the Great One. In this era where players like OV, Malkin, and even Crosby, are willing to throw a check, I don't know if Gretzky would be that same superstar, no one will ever know. One thing I do know is that his records will never be touched because our greatest players, and they are great players, can only muster between 110-120 points a season now. They will never catch the Great Ones stats at that rate.

By the way I am a huge Gretzky fan, I was lucky enough to experience his entire career.

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 20, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

lylewimbledon: I see you jumped off the bandwagon.

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 20, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Caps 73, you must know to much about hockey if you call LEMIEUX, one of the greatest hockey players ever a pussy. When your ovie wins a playoff series then you can start running your mouth. You wish you had LEMIEUX OR JAGR in d.c. you guys would have won a cup by now.So dont call ovie great until he actually does something in the playoffs.Which he never will playing in d.c .

Posted by: ASHLAS1 | April 20, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

pens troll?

we aren't even playing you guys, go to a philly blog.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

@ASHLAS1: How old are you Pens troll. We did have Jagr and he didn't help us get anywhere. He had an all-star cast around him to boot.

Posted by: fanohock1 | April 20, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

cheef will have any many pseudo aliases as he has different browsers, IE, Mozilla, Safari. He's still bitter about his uncle and living in his mom's basement.

Posted by: MNMNT | April 20, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

NO RICHMONDPHIL, JUST SOMEONE WHO CANT STAND YOU WHINY CAPS FANS EVERY YEAR YOU DONT WIN,

Posted by: ASHLAS1 | April 20, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

ASHLA1,
I do know about hockey and I have been playing since I was kid through my freshmen year in college. So thanks for the compliment. Well OV is the MVP and will be again and I believe it is safe to assume that he will be great when he retires. Although I technically didn't use that adjective in my last post. You might want to read gooder. I would have taken Lemieux on my team, you are right about that. Lemieux is a *ussy; there were a bunch of big boys on the ice to fight and Lemieux at 6'5" 220lbs, picks Bobby Gould at 5'8" and 180lbs and gets a concussion and a broken jaw and cheek bone. That is a big *ussy!

Posted by: Caps73 | April 20, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

CapsChick and Saintex,

The closest rule is 5.4, it is vague in that it does not explicitly states that it only applies during the game so a good lawyer could argue that it applies all the time.

Posted by: opita1 | April 20, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1 and Cap73,

Agree with you completely about Gretzky and Lemieux...loved them both, but neither one was tough...Gretzky had Semenko, Krushelnyski and McSorley riding shotgun for him when he was with the Oilers...the only thing I ever saw him do that even vaguely resembled a fight was when he took a double minor for roughing against Neil Sheehy when Sheehy was here and Gretzky was with L.A. The only time I saw Lemieux do anything "tough" was when Todd Krygier goaded him into a fight in the playoffs and Lemieux got kicked out (miracle of miracles, a ref with stones when dealing with Prince Mario)

@ASHLAS1,

Like Caps73, I've played the game and I've coached it, so I do know a bit about it. If I thought you were anywhere near as prescient as you think you are, I'd offer to take you to the track. But I suspect that you're like many of the Pens/Flyers/Rangers trolls who post on this board: your willingness to express your speculative opinions is inversely proportional to your room temperature IQs. I can also speak and write coherent english sentences and paragraphs, something that apparently you can't.

Posted by: NorthFork1 | April 20, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

@Stanley
Maybe he could have used that time to fire a few pucks at a goal in the zamboni room. - Stanley Cup 1907
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Yeah, OV needs to work on scoring goals like a dog needs to work on peeing on fire hydrants. Who else scored 50+ goals this year? Oh yeah that's right, NOBODY.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 20, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

ASHLAS1 - Time to go...your mommy wants to use the computer.

Posted by: gonchpup | April 20, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

any1 who quote's Don Cherry is a flaming cherry himself.
Give it a break.

115 goals in 2 years & u noobies want him to carry the team even more?

please, player 2-20 have got to step up.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 20, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

ashlas rhymes more with asshead.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 20, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

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