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Posted at 2:16 PM ET, 02/21/2011

Injury-riddled Penguins have still managed to win

By Katie Carrera

Despite missing both Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin for all but one game since Jan. 20, the Pittsburgh Penguins are 7-5-1 in that stretch and hold a five point lead over the Capitals for fourth-place in the Eastern Conference heading into Monday's game.

The abundance of injuries to the Penguins this season has grabbed headlines, and forward Chris Kunitz is also expected to miss this final meeting against the Capitals in the regular season, but Washington Coach Bruce Boudreau isn't at all surprised that the Penguins have found ways to keep scraping points out of games.

"I think [Penguins Coach Dan Bylsma has] done a great job," Boudreau said. "They've done a great job in recruiting. The minor league guys that come up are all really great skaters and all hard workers.

"The one thing that people keep forgetting is their defense isn't hurt and their goalie's not hurt and they're in the top two or three in the league in every defensive category," Boudreau continued. "If they have to win games 2-1, 3-2 or 1-0, it's really no different than when Sid, Malkin or Kunitz or any of those guys are in the lineup. That's how they still were winning, except with Sidney you have that game-breaker."

The Penguins return home after a four-game road trip of their own, during which they went 1-2-1, their most recent outing a shootout loss to Chicago on Sunday night. Meanwhile, the Capitals want to close out their own five-game trip tonight in Pittsburgh with a victory that would not only give them a winning record on the trip but move them to within one point of Tampa Bay in the standings.

Michal Neuvirth was the first goaltender off the ice and will get the start against the Penguins. In the teams' last meeting on Feb. 6, Neuvirth made 22 saves for a 3-0 shutout win for the Capitals.

"I think both teams look at the standings and would like to get this when nobody else in our conference is really playing tonight," Boudreau said. "We're just playing to make the playoffs, whatever position -- first through eighth -- we get there, we'll be happy with. Winning that other stuff is gravy, but we have lost three Game 7s at home in the last three years."

By Katie Carrera  | February 21, 2011; 2:16 PM ET
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There goes Bruce's use the hot goalie theory. Varlamov gives up 1 goal in the win so Bruce turns to Neuvirth....just give one of the goalies a chance to play a few games in a row.

Posted by: Caps4Life1 | February 21, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of reasons behind the 7-5-1

e.g. maybe the Pens were underrated by the other teams ... and / or the other teams were a little bit overbearing, thinking they would have an easy game against the Pens without Crosby and Malkin ...

However, I hope the Caps will take this game serious ...

Go Caps!

Posted by: FCKoeln1 | February 21, 2011 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks as though GMGM is going to wait until 1 minute before the deadline to bring in "the guy we wanted all along".

Posted by: kcbrichmond | February 21, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Bob McKenzie says the Caps have not had talks with teams about Semin since he singed his new deal.

So I guess the guy I am getting information from is wrong on that. Or they just havent yet had talks about him with other teams and it doesnt mean they wont. Or he just didnt know that conversations stopped once the deal was signed.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks as though GMGM is going to wait until 1 minute before the deadline to bring in "the guy we wanted all along".

Posted by: kcbrichmond | February 21, 2011 2:53 PM

kcbr: No, it's the guy "we targeted all along."

We didn't "want" him we "targeted" him. The "all along" part though is spot on.

And you and others might note that a general manager of a team of snipers "targets" players.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

@Caps4Life1

... maybe BB plays it save.

The Pens have nothing to loose ... and there is a reason behind the high numbers of penalties ... and Varly is injury-prone (DiPietro?)... and maybe it is a good idea to play D.J. King ...

Posted by: FCKoeln1 | February 21, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"There are a lot of reasons behind the 7-5-1."

The biggest is that the Pens have played an extremely weak schedule over those thirteen games. They've played five playoff teams (the Rangers twice, LA, Carolina, and the Caps) in that stretch. And aside from the Caps, none of those playoff teams are a higher seed than 7th.

Despite yet another slurp-piece on the Penguins by this paper, the fact is they have been blessed by an easy stretch of games during this time. They are certainly still talented enough to still win the majority of those games, but they've barely been able to break even.

Posted by: jollyroger2 | February 21, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I LOLed at at work after reading:" the guy I am getting information from is wrong on that". Did your informant give you any right info?

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 21, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate

Yeah I trust him on the information he is giving me. And Bob McKenzie could also be wrong, not saying he is but its possible. There is a ton of stuff out there right now. People say we are interested in Kovalev, and the guys over at TheFourthPeriod.com dont even list us as being interested. Everyone is being fed information from different people, so who knows who is right.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The caps should be heavily favored but the Pens are handling the injury situation like men so should not be counted out.

Posted by: DavidAu | February 21, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I think there are two main reasons Varly isn't playing tonight. 1, this is the second of a back to back and often goalies are switched between the two unless one is playing out of their mind and the other is hurt or playing horrible. 2 Neuvy played great last time against these guys and they want to have him do it again.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat. Eck at hockey buzz has us talking Semin so using the rule of Eck that means we haven't.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Tominsocal:
I stand corrected. You are right on the verbage. Although the "team of snipers" motto may be a little outdated.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | February 21, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer

Yeah I know not to trust that site for specific rumors.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Dunno man, Bob McKenzie is very experienced and respected guy in NHL. The only time I believe that he was wrong when he said that Bill Guerin goes to Caps, but instead of that, Bill went to the Pens and won the Stanley cup

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 21, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

and I really hope we don't get Kovalev! Damn lazy player, and I have never heard anything about him being the leader in the lockeroom.

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 21, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate

Yes I know he is, thats why I assume the info on Semin I got is currently wrong. But I heard they were shopping him way back before he signed his extension. My information was that they were continuing to do it. The fact Bob basically acknowledges they were shopping him before the extension is why I assume the current information I have is wrong on that front.

But like I said conversations may not have happened. And everyone gets info from different people. Thats why I came out and posted the info so people didnt come on here and jump on me for the info I provided. Just passing along info that I get from someone inside the organization.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Dallas just traded James Neal and Matt Niskanen to Pitt for Goligoski

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

There goes Bruce's use the hot goalie theory. Varlamov gives up 1 goal in the win so Bruce turns to Neuvirth....just give one of the goalies a chance to play a few games in a row.

Posted by: Caps4Life1

lol...2 funny! It couldn't be that it is the last game of a long road trip and most teams don't play goalies on back 2 back nights unless they really have 2...it couldn't be that Varly while giving up only 1 goal gave up quite a few juicy rebounds and he needs to settle before his next game.

Oh and yeah...stating the obvious the MAF is a pretty darn good goalie is copping out...please. People like u will NEVER be satisfied...if we brought home the cup 3 yrs in a row u would find something to complain about

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

#8 has been largely excellent the last 2 games. He should play at that level in at least 4 out of every 5 games when healthy based on his salary. He still made the occasional low IQ play but hey, that's #8.

The Caps executed well last night.

And McPhee is still an impotent idiot. We go nowhere with him running the ship.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

That's the way it goes with rumors though. You can sift through some & know they're bogus etc. For example, ANY trade you heard about that involved us obtaining a goalie &/or dealing Varly or Neuvy are completely bogus. Same thing with Semin.

As fans, I think we'll be happier this trade deadline vs last.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 21, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

@thepat

wow! hockeybuzz got one right!

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

And the remaining Kool-Aid drinkin', McPhee sniffin' tools are gonna get your heads out of your asses one of these days in the near future.

McPhee is on the hot seat. Believe it.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

the only reason hockeybuzz knew the James Neal deal was coming was bc of Dregger reporting it possibly happening this morning.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Strange move by the Pens. Pens got lots of defenders, I think Lovejoy was a healthy scratch yesterday because there was no spot for him to play, but Niskanen is pretty good too.

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 21, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

As fans, I think we'll be happier this trade deadline vs last.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 21, 2011 4:00 PM

If that ends up being true, it's only cuz McPhail set the bar so freakin' low last year.

He'll still swing and miss. He actually already did this past summer and during this trade period.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Tonight's game in a "gotta win". Not a "must win", but a "gotta win". We're in our rivals barn with their top 2 players out and Staal's playin banged up. They have NOTHING up the middle! We should dominate in faceoffs tonight which should lead to better TOP, which will lead to drawing more penalties which will lead to our PP. Crap! Ok so we'll win it with TOP instead of the PP.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 21, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate

Strange deal???? The Pens just got a crap load better. They actually have a winger that can score goals now and didnt lose D depth.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

@tmac

either McPhee or BB is on the hot seat, but they can't both be! So which is it...are the Caps not living up to expectations b/c they lack the center and gritty D they need, or are they crapping out b/c BB can't play O and D at the same time? It can't be both.

Either BB has what he needs for a Cup team and the lack of winning is his fault, ir GMGM hasn't given him the tools he needs and therefore we can not blame or judge BB until he fails WITH the proper tools.

Which is it?

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

George McPhee is the Jeff Schultz of the GM world.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

@tmac

that made me laugh.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Which is it?

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:08 PM

It's you're an idiot.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2008/10/30/PH2008103004655.jpg

This is the "Are you in hockey?" face that McIdiot will show reporters after they question is impotency.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

They could both be on the hot seat and probably both should. However I think neither of them are.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Good deal for the Pens. Even if Crosby doesn't come back, this makes them better.

Will McPhee ever do anything?

Posted by: underpants2 | February 21, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

@tmac

wow! great argument...I think my 7th grade ADD students are laughing their a$$es off! Are you ready to grow up yet and talk like a grown up to those that DARE to disagree with your all knowing self.

FYI...that response was hilarious for my 7th graders, but my 8h graders are already more mature that the "you're an idiot" response. I could probably have u socially ready for 8th grade in a few weeks if you want to learn.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The lockout that wiped out the 2004-05 NHL season ultimately yielded a new business model that included a salary cap.

This is what McPhee has failed to grasp as well as the superior GMs in the league.

You can't sit on your hands if you are in contending mode (as opposed to rebuilding mode). There is to much parity. The window closes almost as fast as it opens. Our window is already closing (not closed yet) and other teams that have been rebuilding over the last few years will come out of nowhere and suddenly be in better position than us.

Book it.

McPhee sucks.

You'll all be on board soon enough...

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat. I thought it was a strange trade but from the Dallas side. Having live in Pittsburgh for college for four years before this one I have see Goligoski play a lot and he is not as good as either of the players the Pens just got let alone both. Goligoski isn't the poor man's Letang he is the broke man's Letang.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

bunch of nonsense...

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:14 PM

Tool.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer

No doubt it was a dumb trade from the Dallas side. I have no idea what they were thinking. Neal can score 30+ goals playing with Crosby. And the D offset each other imo. So Dallas basically just handed them Neal for nothing.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

They could both be on the hot seat and probably both should. However I think neither of them are.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:12 PM

If by any small chance that is true, Leonsis is a bigger idiot than both of them.

I guarantee thought that at least one is on the hot seat and most likely both to varying degrees.

The Fat Man is losing patience no matter how fat and happy he tries to come off.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach. Both can be on the hot seat at the same time see TB. The GM can not give the coach the right tools and the coach could mismanage the tools he has. Hence both fail at their jobs. Not saying that is or isn't the case with the Caps just saying that is how both could be on the hot seat.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

@thepat

I just don't get that argument...I mean I think that overall GMGM has given us a pretty talented core of players. The lack of a center is my only true issue with him...ok and the Poti signing. But every GM makes bad calls...their job is an educated guess most of the time. In my gut I feel like BB is just better suited as a AHL coach that can really develope young guys...but he is not best utilized in the NHL. Our D is solid...even if u wish they were grittier u can't really blame them for many of our losses.

GMGM isn't the best, but I don't buy that he is below average. I think he will get us our center and hopefully even trade schultz for an upgrade on D??? who knows...the guy plays his cards closer to his vest than most GMs

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

he is the broke man's Letang.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 4:16 PM

And McFool is the broke man's [fill in the blank].

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat Only thing I can think of is clearing salery out so they can afford to resign Richards. Not a cap issue but a $$ issue with their ownership being in question.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

They both can be because GMGM hired Bruce. GMGM has been here for 13 years and has had plenty of opportunities. He has done both good and bad things. So if the team is failing to get where Ted wants GMGM is on the hotseat. If Ted believes McPhee gave Bruce enough to work with and Bruce failed than he is also in trouble. It definitely doesnt have to be a one or the other is on the hotseat.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer

I get what your saying, I just think it's not a good idea in MOST circumstances to blame both at the same time...

We have a solid core of players that GMGM has managed to keep longer than I thought possible...there is no excuse for Semin, Backie, green, and Ovie to ALL be having this kind of year at the same time! Its beyond me...

Any coach should be able to take Semin, Ovie, Green, Backie, Laich, Fehr (he CAN be good with the right coach), and create a darn good team around them...add in Carlson and Alzner who have the potential to be great a solid accordingly. If the Caps don't get it together for the playoffs...I think BB's gotta take the brunt of the blame.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer

yeah i agree that played a part in it. Still then they should ask for draft picks or prospects that are a year or two away. Dont just give him away.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Pens will be w/o Goligoski now as he's been traded. New players won't be in lineup tonight so unless we just lay down.....

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 21, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

George McPhee is the Jeff Schultz of the GM world.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:09 PM

George might consider that a compliment.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

One possible explanation for the Dallas-Pitt trade - Dallas saves $2.5 million per year in salary. Maybe with Richards hurt they have thrown in the towel on this season and are in full fire sale mode.

Posted by: zmega | February 21, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

All I know is that I want the Caps to absolutely DESTROY the Pens tonight...on the scoresheet and with their fists.

Win or lose, I won't be satisfied unless we send a loud, clear message to Cooke and his mates that accident or not, NOBODY IS TO EVER DELIVER A QUESTIONABLE HIT ON OUR $100 MILLION CAPTAIN!

Kick'em when they're down, boys, and kick'em hard...GO CAPS

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 21, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, Ted's motto is "acquire talent without giving up key players or prospects and don't take on a huge contract either". So - all we have to do, is look at who's available as a rental that would only cost us a 2nd round pick - that's our 2nd line center.

It could be Kovalev. Why - well, because Ottawa wants draft picks, he's unrestricted at end of year, and of course - he's russian. It actually solves the problem of someone to play with Semin and other than cap space, doesn't cost us too much.

Now - ask yourself if Kovalev is the answer against Boston/Philly and the East - answer - no! But - it appears that we did something, it didn't cost us much and the russian players were happy - win / win / win.

Then, when we're eliminated in round 1 again...we can say "well, we never really gelled this year as a team due to the injury bug and goaltending inconsistencies. The good news is most of our "assets" are signed through next year, the young guys got a taste of the play-offs and we're in good shape going into next season.

Wash/rinse/repeat.

Posted by: Jaymagz | February 21, 2011 4:35 PM | Report abuse

And of course it can be on both McPhee and Boudreau to varying degrees.

McPhee is the root of all that is wrong though, including coaching issues. He hired and stuck with the coaches. He built the roster.

Having an elite GM is everything in this hard cap era. Without that, you could prob get the #1 overall pick year after year and never come close to a cup.

Some of you still don't get it...

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii9/mrskraus/9_insults_carlos_mencia_dee.gif

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

@thepat

plenty of opportunities?

-nothing before Ovie
-a few years to build and develop the team around ovie
-how many of our players did we draft and develop? A lOT! that takes time and thats what TED LEONSIS decided to do...

I say we had a shot as a cup team the past two seasons (maybe 3) 1 team out of 30 wins the cup...at least 5 teams every season have legit shots. I'm not a math teacher but I still don't get the lots of opprtunities.

13 seasons is a lo of course...but we never had the right team...I am too young to remember the team much before the lockout...but we I think some of your guys standards are a little high...only 1 team wins a year...that leaves 29 dissapointed teams...and probably 10 that are POed b/c they thought it was their year...hiring BB was NOT a mistake! He took this team to the next level...now it looks like we need someone else to take us to the top spot...but I will never regret the hiring of BB...He developed our young guys, Hanlon almost destroyed Green! I appreciate what he did...now if GMGM does nothing after another ealry playoff exit...then I blame him

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

George might consider that a compliment.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 4:31 PM

Exactly and unfortunately.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:38 PM | Report abuse

It also appears Pittsburgh is closing in on Kovalev

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Then, when we're eliminated in round 1 again...we can say "well, we never really gelled this year as a team due to the injury bug and goaltending inconsistencies. The good news is most of our "assets" are signed through next year, the young guys got a taste of the play-offs and we're in good shape going into next season.

Wash/rinse/repeat.

Posted by: Jaymagz

nah...I am considered a koolaid addict and even I will call for BB's job with another early exit.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:40 PM | Report abuse

capscoach; GM's overall drafting record going back to 98 is really bad. OK, he plucked Semin in 2002 and Green in 2004.

That's two picks in his first 8 drafts (counting 2005, a terrible draft) who outperformed their slot for the Caps (Oduya doesn't count). Since 06, he has done much better.

Overall, he didn't do well picking coaches or signing FAs. His major coup was dismantling the Jagr era team and rebuilding, but some of that (Ovechkin) was luck as well (we were 3rd worst and won lottery, otherwise we'd have Cam Barker).

The best grade he can possible get for 13 3/4 years on the job is C. And many here would claim that's very generous. He's won one playoff round excluding his first year. There have been 180 Playoff Round winners 1999-2010 and we have won ONE. 180/30 teams says you should win six on average. We have ONE.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Again, Schultz has improved noticably over the past couple of seasons. The problem is that his big weaknesses will always be his big weaknesses. He's a fringe NHL defensemen, not a Top 2 on any legit team and barely a Top 4 on most teams. If a skilled team that has plenty of balls has him as one of their last d-men, he could probably be part of a cup winnder. But on the current version of the Caps, he is miscast and there isn't enough balance to make up for his deficiencies.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice the Islanders are 4-1 since beating down the Penguins...

I'm not here to tell you they are going to make the playoffs...but imagine if they gave a good physical beatdown to someone in December? They might be fighting for home ice!

Ya, Mario, what a disgrace. Since those guys stuck together and beat down your guys (who started all of this), the Isles are a tight cohesive bunch of guys...

Isn't that what pro sports is about? Winning to attract fans and generate interest...?

Good Job ISLES! It would be awesome to see you in the playoffs...so we can constantly see highlights of what turned their season around...

Posted by: SoaringCaps | February 21, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

What the heck was Dallas thinking. Since they were giving away players why didn't they just throw in Richards and Morrow. What an awful trade!

Posted by: topshelf | February 21, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Caps have to take advantage now. Pitt will be even more shorthanded then it was before and TB has only two games left on their longest homestand in NHL history and the two teams left are the two hottest teams in the NHL right now. We have a chance to be back on top of the division by the end of the week and we need to take it.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, there was a strike in 2005, so that's 165 Playoff Round winners over 11 seasons.

He has excelled at draft selections in the bottom third of the first round.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse


You just won the most retarted post of the day award! And we are 3 hours from the puck drop

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 21, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Wind knocked out my dish for the second time in a week. Anyone know the best place to stream the game, preferably a site where one can pay for one game only.
Thanks

Posted by: BorntoHula | February 21, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

i know who gets my vote as CI's macScrooge

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 21, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Dallas is moronic

What a great great trade for the Pens. A power forward and a hardnosed capable dman.

Amazing that teams like Pittsburgh have no problems picking up quality players. And players who seem to have no issues finishing their checks. It seems to be a prerequisite. This trade just gave the Pens an extra 200 hits per season from 2 regular players.

McPhee must be dumbfounded. Or just plain dumb.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Wind knocked out my dish for the second time in a week. Anyone know the best place to stream the game, preferably a site where one can pay for one game only.
Thanks

Posted by: BorntoHula | February 21, 2011 4:50 PM

http://www6.hockeystreams.com/

^^^

This site is the bomb if you can't catch the game elsewhere for any reason. I used it yesterday and both the Silverlight and WMV feeds were excellent.

You can buy individual games for about $7. It used to be cheaper but it's very much worth it. They also archive games immediately after the broadcast.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

seriously, Dallas gave Pitt a huge gift today. That team must love their GM. He gives them a huge boost when they need it. To pick up 2 young quality players like Neal and Niskanen who compete hard on the ice and aren't easy to play against. That would be the type of trade the Caps would need to make in order to visibly boost this team. Meanwhile we'll be puttering around the scrap heap as usual looking for bargains at the deadline.

Every time a trade like this goes down, it just reinforces what a complete moron we have for a GM. He's totally impotent.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Dallas is moronic

What a great great trade for the Pens. A power forward and a hardnosed capable dman.

Amazing that teams like Pittsburgh have no problems picking up quality players. And players who seem to have no issues finishing their checks. It seems to be a prerequisite. This trade just gave the Pens an extra 200 hits per season from 2 regular players.

McPhee must be dumbfounded. Or just plain dumb.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 4:51 PM

He's sitting around his office like The Thinker. He just doesn't have the vision. You can't really teach that much like you can't teach a player to have Backstrom-like ice vision (even in a down year for him).

You either got it or ya don't.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

McPhee is a visionless buffoon. No one should have any confidence in this man.

Pittsburgh, better. Tampa, better. Boston, better. Philadelphia, better. What is missing here? We need to win our division this year, otherwise, the first round will be really tough. Of course, with us, they're all tough.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 21, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

The Pens always seem to pull off trades that are beneficial to them in the playoffs. Come on GMGM do something. Show us what great hockey minds would do!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | February 21, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao

Looks excellent, thank you.

Posted by: BorntoHula | February 21, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Every time a trade like this goes down, it just reinforces what a complete moron we have for a GM. He's totally impotent.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Could be worse we could have a GM like Dallas who gives up those two players for one that isn't as good as either of the two going away. Not saying doing nothing is a good idea but Dallas fans are probably wishing their GM did nothing today.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 21, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if we faced a Crosby-less, Malkin-less Penguins in the 1st rd and not only lost but lost handily.

The Caps fan in me would be devastated.

Then again, the Caps fan in me would also see a light at the end of the tunnel once the pain wore off cuz Fat Teddy would be absolutely forced to make change.

Change doesn't guarantee success but if we don't change, we'll just keep spinning our wheels and waste this rebuild and the Ovechkin era.

Unless some MVPs and the Pres. Trophy was all you ever wanted as a fan.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton and @underpants2

I have said we wouldnt do anything till we got back from the road trip. Its unusual that all these trades are happening right now. But it just goes to show that most GM's realize now that going after rental players rarely ever works.

If we get to Thursday afternoon and McPhee has done nothing than everyone can go right ahead and panic. Ill be right there with you. Right now its frustrating to see these other teams getting better, however I am waiting till Thursday to panic.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

seriously, Dallas gave Pitt a huge gift today. That team must love their GM. He gives them a huge boost when they need it. To pick up 2 young quality players like Neal and Niskanen who compete hard on the ice and aren't easy to play against. That would be the type of trade the Caps would need to make in order to visibly boost this team. Meanwhile we'll be puttering around the scrap heap as usual looking for bargains at the deadline.

Every time a trade like this goes down, it just reinforces what a complete moron we have for a GM. He's totally impotent.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 4:55 PM

Right on as usual. You've had him nailed since day one. It took me a while to see.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

this would be pathetic

The Washington Capitals are looking hard at Tim Connolly it's reported. The Capitals are desperate to add any kind of jump to their team and need a second line center badly. I'm hearing the Capitals are talking with the Sabres big time as the Caps are also interested in Craig Rivet. I'm hearing Alexander Semin is also on the Sabre's list and with new ownership the team is looking to make a splash. Darcy Regier has also said he's not looking for any kind of rental player but a player who would be under contract for next season and would be open to shopping potential UFA's to better his club for a playoff push and for next season. This all makes sense, and that's a move I can see both parties interested in especially if Buffalo can sweeten the deal by tweaking it a little for Washington.

Posted by: samb99 | February 21, 2011 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I have no confidence. Is there anything worse than being a Caps fan?

Posted by: underpants2 | February 21, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing is that it isn't all that hard to build a balanced team. I'm not saying it's easy to build a cup winner but it's not that hard to strike a balance between skill and grit, speed and strength, youth and vets, etc... It just takes the belief that you need some kind of balance and that it's not all about acquiring as much skill as possible at the end of the day, esp. if you don't use those supposed assets to fill needs effectively.

McPhee has oft tried to compare us to the Red Wings or justify his moves based on things the Red Wings have done.

All you can say to that is... lol.

Assuming you get past the gagging.

We are, were and never will be anything like the Wings that he was trying to use as a model.

And we really shouldn't be.

McPhee is just a backwards thinker and a poor one at that. He may be good at something but he ain't got the overall skillset to complete this process that we started years ago. That should be painfully obvious by now when you look at his entire body of work - everything he's done and everything he hasn't done.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Yep, no reason to panic.

Signed,
Joe Corvo

lol

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I have no confidence. Is there anything worse than being a Caps fan?

Posted by: underpants2 | February 21, 2011 5:05 PM

Being a Cleveland fan since 1964.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

McPhee should get about a D- for his work since the rebuild.

If we weren't in the hard cap era, he'd get about a C or C-.

But there is a hard cap. That's the reality. It changes everything.

Anybody could take, accumulate more 1st rd picks than any other team in the NHL over a 10 year period and acquire some kind of core of young talent.

Whoopdee f'n doo!

He can't do the rest, i.e., the hard part.

Having an elite GM in the hard cap era is more important than having elite players.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

They'll beat a subpar Penguins team tonight. Ted will blog, all will be right.

1 week. No Tim Connolly bulls^!t.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 21, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

oh trust me, there's no "panic" involved. Just deep deep deep rooted frustration having to endure a GM like McPhee who is so inept at being able to swing deals or read his team's psyche and figure out when it is they need some kind of boost. He doesn't really understand his team's weaknesses. And that is compounded by his inability to be a mover and shaker.

Year after year, this is one of the most boring franchises to be around. You don't get to look fwd to the offseason for free agents. And you know that we're not going to be involved in significant trade discussions that lead to anything tangible.

I really really hate our GM. More than words could possibly express. And again, its not panic. I'm sure at some point he'll make some kind of deal to "shore up the PP" . Corvo's available again I hear.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I have no confidence. Is there anything worse than being a Caps fan?

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Actually there is, top of the list: being a Caps fans who comes here for intelligent discussion/commentary and gets a bunch of whiny "fans" complaining about every move every other team makes.

Lets be honest here. There are zero moves that GMGM could make that would make any of you whiners happy. Even yesterday's win did little to calm the whiners. Maybe if we'd won 12-0 with 15 PP goals (yes 12-0 with 15 PP goals), but I doubt it. Some of you just love to complain.

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

And I will try to cite my reference to "more 1st rd picks than any other team in the NHL over a 10 year period."

I understand that the rebuild didn't start 10 years ago but as of about 2 years ago, I am almost sure that I read somewhere that the Caps had more 1st rd picks than any other team in the league.

That wasn't the result of savvy GM work. It was the result of tanking and dumping. Any fool can do that.

Given that glut of 1st rd picks, he really ain't done all that great to put it mildly. And as of the time of that article I read, we were near the bottom, if not at the bottom, when it came to our success in the 2nd rd and beyond based on the metrics used in that study.

Toss in the lousy trades and the piss poor contracts and you start to see the reality that McPhee truly does suck the big one.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Edit: I understand that the rebuild didn't start 10 years ago but as of about 2 years ago, I am almost sure that I read somewhere that the Caps had more 1st rd picks than any other team in the league over the 10 years prior to that article.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm hearing the Capitals are talking with the Sabres big time as the Caps are also interested in Craig Rivet.
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perfect. I've been a Craig Rivet fan for about 90% of his career. He's been one of the most underrated unsung players in the league for a long time. But now, he's done. He's DONE! He can't play at the level he used to. He's still hardnosed, he still tries, but his body just can't cut it anymore.

So it makes perfect fu**ng sense that we're looking at him NOW rather than 5 or 10 yrs ago.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Actually there is, top of the list: being a Caps fans who comes here for intelligent discussion/commentary and gets a bunch of whiny "fans" complaining about every move every other team makes.

Lets be honest here. There are zero moves that GMGM could make that would make any of you whiners happy. Even yesterday's win did little to calm the whiners. Maybe if we'd won 12-0 with 15 PP goals (yes 12-0 with 15 PP goals), but I doubt it. Some of you just love to complain.

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 5:20 PM

You're a blind fool.

And you'll be whining too sooner or later whether it's on this site or elsewhere, including in you own little pint-sized head.

Book it, fool!

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I have no confidence. Is there anything worse than being a Caps fan?

Posted by: underpants2


And I got taqgged as the dumbest comment(some people hate can't handle a different opinion)

really though...at least we have an entertaining team. there are sooo many teams in every sport worse off than us! Kings, NYI, Wizards, Redskins, Orioles...just to name the few that I know of.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Being a Cleveland fan since 1964.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 5:14 PM

Try since the 50s.

My father's side of the family is all from Ohio and were Indians and Browns fans since birth.

I'm an Indians fan and a Browns fan to a lesser extent but talk about having it tough as a sports fan.

I grew up in D.C. and lived through the Skins golden years.

D.C. hasn't had much success outside of that and the Bullets back in that day but it can be worse.

Any Clevelander will tell you.

My aunt from Cleveland is actually in town right now. She sends me lots of newspaper clippings from their local sports media.

If any of you think Caps fans are discouraged and cynical, you ain't see nothin'.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

And you'll be whining too sooner or later whether it's on this site or elsewhere, including in you own little pint-sized head.

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I don't think so. You see, when a team makes me as miserable as you are with the Caps, I just drop them. Love the 49ers, haven't supported them for years as the owner is as bad as Snyder, likewise the O's.

Being a fan should be at least a little fun, otherwise, what's the point?

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

@CapsIn4

I already offered tmac the desk in my 2nd period 7th grade world studies class so he could work on his social skills...but he disrespectfully refused...apparently I am a "tool"

Anyone with a positive thought he doesn't agree with is an idiot...so arguing with him is like...arguing with one of my 7th graders...not worth your time and will eventually drive u mad.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Year after year, this is one of the most boring franchises to be around. You don't get to look fwd to the offseason for free agents. And you know that we're not going to be involved in significant trade discussions that lead to anything tangible.

-CStanton

Careful there, buddy, you are getting dangerously close to Dan Snyder, "win-the-offseason-at-any-cost" territory.

Posted by: zmega | February 21, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

don't think so. You see, when a team makes me as miserable as you are with the Caps, I just drop them. Love the 49ers, haven't supported them for years as the owner is as bad as Snyder, likewise the O's.

Being a fan should be at least a little fun, otherwise, what's the point?

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 5:36 PM

The point is that if you didn't have your head up your bunghole, you'd know that the vast majority of sports fans, regardless of age or creed, are wild, passionate, irrational and extreme in nature. It's human nature and fan nature.

If you are one of those truly easygoing, happy-go-lucky types, good for you. Just now that you are in the minority and you aren't likely as diehard of a fan as the rest.

Sports bring out the competitive, barbaric, wild nature of us all. It makes grown man act like kids, cheering, yelling and ranting.

You are a role model fan, apparently.

I don't wanna be like you.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse

apparently I am a "tool"

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 5:37 PM |

It's not just apparent. It's clear.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

@tmac

u don't have to be an a$$ to be a good fan. and people don't have to agree with you to have a valid point...thats why there is chocolate and vanilla.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse


go away extra kool-aid drinker, with fans like you, who always think that things will get better, Caps are loosing to Montreal and Pittsburgh. There is no perfect team, NEVER, even Red Wings will do some right moves, my bet will be getting Nabokov for 1001th round pick from the Islanders.

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 21, 2011 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I know tmac...I disagreed with you and didn't submit to your all knowing self...if that makes me a tool just tell me where I can buy the shed.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

CapsIn4:
this isn't so much a forum for getting info on/discussing the caps - it is a forum for venting frustrations, agenda's of how to fix the caps and tirades of front office ineptness

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 21, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

Agree with you. I read CI on a pretty regular basis, so I see the folks to like to minimize those with another view.

Sad thing is, I remember when the only trolls on Caps boards were Flyer/Penguin fans. We don't even get those trolls anymore, only "Caps fans".

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

apparently I am a "tool"

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 5:37 PM |

It's not just apparent. It's clear.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 21, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

DITTO!

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 21, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

there are sooo many teams in every sport worse off than us! Kings, NYI, Wizards, Redskins, Orioles...just to name the few that I know of.
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All those teams except the Kings have won championship in my lifetime.

And the Kings had Gretzky for a few years.

Posted by: joek443 | February 21, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

dwelling on the past has done so many so much good...If this team finally manages to win something you tools won't know what to do with all your free time.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

There are zero moves that GMGM could make that would make any of you whiners happy. Even yesterday's win did little to calm the whiners.
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wrong.

Had he picked up Niskanen and Neal for Schultz, we'd be ecstatic

as for the Sabres win? I don't think the Sabres are a great team by any stretch and the way we played them is not the way you win playoff hockey games.

The most impressive part of the win and for many wins this year is holding onto a 1 goal lead.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

So I should just come here to vent...got it! :-)

tmac2yao
I get pretty wild and excitable at home and at games. I was crushed, just crushed by the last 3 game 7 losses. But, the Caps have been a lot more entertaining the last three years than they have ever been. While I HAVE to see the Caps win the Cup, I'll be happy tomorrow either way. You might want to try it.

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 5:58 PM | Report abuse

There are zero moves that GMGM could make that would make any of you whiners happy. Even yesterday's win did little to calm the whiners.
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If he trades Semin for Bogosian, I won't say a bad word about GMGM ever again.

Posted by: joek443 | February 21, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Had he picked up Niskanen and Neal for Schultz, we'd be ecstatic

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Wow, now that is just too bad for GMGM. If only he'd known it would be that easy to please everybody...Maybe Katie can set up a poll and present the results to GMGM..?

Totally blows that we couldn't make that deal, but was it even available to us? I don't think Goligoski & Schultz are at all comparable, except that Dallas would get worse with the trade.

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Careful there, buddy, you are getting dangerously close to Dan Snyder, "win-the-offseason-at-any-cost" territory.

Posted by: zmega

come on z

you don't think there's a happy medium between Snyder and the Caps?

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

If this team finally manages to win something you tools won't know what to do with all your free time.

Posted by: capscoach

I know what I would do. I'd take our babysitter to hawaii.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Can people please talk about hockey???

Reading about people being called tools and people's happiness being questioned is some of the most pointless crap ever.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 6:08 PM | Report abuse

come on pat! tmac started it!

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Wow, now that is just too bad for GMGM. If only he'd known it would be that easy to please everybody...Maybe Katie can set up a poll and present the results to GMGM..?

Totally blows that we couldn't make that deal, but was it even available to us?
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my point is, there ARE deals out there that would make us "whiners" very happy.

It doesn't HAVE to be Neal and Niskanen. Its more about the TYPE of players those 2 are rather than them specifically. Corvo, Chimmy, and Belanger are a DIFFERENT type of player.

Our GM just goes after the wrong guys for the most part. And he's just inept in general at pulling the trigger on deals.

I've said it before but it bears repeating. I've been privy to exact terms of some deals in the past that have fallen thru. And its been because we haven't offered enough. Straight up god's honest truth. If I posted what we actually offered up and expected back in return, it would be mindnumbingly obvious to most of you why McPhee is unable to complete trades.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

ThePat,

I have inside knowledge that this is what goes on here...we vent, call names, and then go to bed proud of ourselves. Did you miss the memo? ;-)

FWIW, I agree with you. It would be nice to come here for good hockey talk, but apparently the whiners have taken over...and now I'm whining about the whiners!

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 6:15 PM | Report abuse

This site used to be capable of polite disagreements...I learned a lot from people like the pat and tominsocal who challenged my beliefs...but apparently now people just name call if someone says something they don't like...i realize I name called tmac (shame on me) but I don't know what else to do when I am called an idiot/moron/tool for simply stating that I disagreed with his opinion and gave a different argument in return...he could have just defended his point.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

he could have just defended his point.

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 6:21 PM

most people don't feel the need to defend facts - don't you now you only get facts here :)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 21, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I've said it before but it bears repeating. I've been privy to exact terms of some deals in the past that have fallen thru.
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you and pokerface have been talking to GMGM's cleaning lady and going thru his garbage again??

Posted by: joek443 | February 21, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1,

I agree. Totally hated the Corvo deal, wasn't sure about Belanger, and Chimmy would be great if only...

The problem though, is that GMGM isn't gonna take our advice, so all the whining that get done here is useless.

You, when you get to it, offer some great analysis and commentary. When you get into ripping other posters and GMGM, you don't offer much.

I think we're all pretty aware that the Caps have won squat. The constant reminders of that fact offer nothing.

Kind of like ThePat just mentioned, it would be nice have good hockey discussions, instead of the whining.

Posted by: CapsIn4 | February 21, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

Is it safe to assume I lost the title of being the poster whom you least respect here?

MAY THE PENS BLEED-OUT TONITE!!

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 21, 2011 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Vengeance, destruction, taking names and kicking ass.......anything less tonite will be a big disappiontment!!

LEAD BY EXAMPLE, #4, AND SHOW NO MERCY WHEN YOUR VICTIM BEGS AT YOUR KNEES TO STOP THE POUNDING

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 21, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

you and pokerface have been talking to GMGM's cleaning lady and going thru his garbage again??

Posted by: joek443 |

even better. I've had quality pillow talk with GM's oldest daughter. (she's legal).

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:42 PM | Report abuse

capscoach: Mostly it is polite here. I think tmac's had a bad couple of days though. If you can forgive him, you'll be the better person.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 21, 2011 6:43 PM | Report abuse

The problem though, is that GMGM isn't gonna take our advice, so all the whining that get done here is useless.

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all that is true of course. we know this.

But when he continually disappoints by either acquiring the wrong players or not doing anything at all, it invariably WILL lead to ranting and raving and some name-calling. We're immature! I admit it.

but i also take offence at Kirk's remark that hockey discussion doesn't occur here. I don't frequent other boards but I've heard some horror stories about censorship in places like the Caps home board or Japers. So for my money, THIS is the best board for caps hockey talk. You get to say what you want. Most of it is hockey related and some of it isn't. But I ain't goin anywhere else and I hope most of you don't either.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I agree with @tominsocal. Most of the time it is civil in here. And tmac has had a bad couple of days. But Im used to him going overboard so i just read and dont respond.

@capscoach
haha, yeah he did, but you continued it :)

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 6:47 PM | Report abuse

This site used to be capable of polite disagreements
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BOOOOOOORING!

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:48 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

Japers rink is very boring. There are some people on there that talk hockey and have good knowledge. But the censorship is crazy. And they are very arrogant over there. Every now and then people over there try to make a joke about people that post on here at Caps Insider. Of course they still come here and read it but they feel that they are above people here so once they are done reading they go there and talk negatively about discussions here.

Posted by: ThePat | February 21, 2011 6:52 PM | Report abuse

tmac has had a bad couple of days
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Kinda like the Caps had a few bad days last April?

hehe

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I am too young to remember the team much before the lockout...but we I think some of your guys standards are a little high...only 1 team wins a year...
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It has nothing to do with any "standards".

It has everything to do with following this team for a quarter century and experiencing the most disappointing/excruciating/heart-breaking losses imaginable.

Give it 20 more years and you'll get there too :)

Posted by: joek443 | February 21, 2011 6:54 PM | Report abuse

So for my money, THIS is the best board for caps hockey talk. You get to say what you want. Most of it is hockey related and some of it isn't. But I ain't goin anywhere else and I hope most of you don't either.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I swear, you read my mind. On another note, Costa Rica was awesome...stayed in Guanacaste

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 21, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal

okay! I'll let it go...happy dad?

Posted by: capscoach | February 21, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Of course they still come here and read it but they feel that they are above people here so once they are done reading they go there and talk negatively about discussions here.

Posted by: ThePat |

that's funny.

From my experiences, 99% of the fans I've met in my life and some of the people employed by NHL teams really don't know hockey that well. They know their little piece of it but they lack indepth specific knowledge of prospects (outside the top 5 or 10 players in any given league), they don't seem to be able to know when a trade looks good even on paper. That's why you had a plethora of "McPhee is a genius" comments when he pulled trades for Belanger and Corvo.

On paper, those trades looked bad to me. Belanger was a non-impact 'tweener acquisition. And Corvo was exactly what this team didn't need. And yet so many people immediately jumped the gun and went out of their way to praise the deal. I doubt very much the Flyers or Pens GMs were threatened in any way by those deals.

I think you have certain GMs who have a very strong grasp on most of the active NHL players on every roster. And then you have guys like McPhee who rely heavily on pro scouts to tell him about players on other teams. I have very very little respect for him as a personnel guy. He sinks or swims on the power of his scouts. He just overly relies on them.

Does anyone remember when Phaneuf got drafted? Right before the draft, even casual observers understood that Phaneuf could be a real impact dman because he was an offensive guy with Scott Stevens-like hitting ability in the def zone. Now that time has passed, some of the luster has worn off but I'd say a lot of teams would still take Phaneuf into their top 4 rotation if they could. Definitely on the 2nd pairing.

Well on the day before that draft in 2003, lets just say I got lucky enough to see an email from McPhee regarding Phaneuf. And frankly, he didn't know SH_T about the guy. He dismissed him as a middling prospect. But he also said something very interesting in the email. He said that IF the Caps did take Phaneuf, he was going to bill him as the next great dman. That really sat wrong with me. He came across as a con man.

now you can take that email or my interpretation of it however you want to. But the way I took it was, McPhee quite simply isn't "up" on things he should be well versed in. And he's willing to spin an acquisition to make himself look better.

Sound familiar?

Any GM first and foremost needs to be extremely wired into players and their worth. McPhee seems more like a businessman and less like a hockey guy. The fact that he wasn't on the same page with an overwhelming majority of scouts and other GMs regarding Phaneuf as at least a strong defensive prospect was shocking to me. And I don't think he really knew Phaneuf that well as a player. I don't think it was a case of McPhee studying Phaneuf and THEN dimissing him. I don't think he really knew much about him.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I would not have traded Gologiski. I disagree. It was a bad trade for the Pens.

Posted by: pkme | February 21, 2011 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I swear, you read my mind. On another note, Costa Rica was awesome...stayed in Guanacaste

Posted by: vermontcaps |

sweet! I'm 3 weeks away. Did you dive? I'm going way south of Guanacaste. To Drake Bay. You kinda have to hop a puddle jumper plane to Sierpe and then take a boat from there. Swing down the river and up around the southern portion and come up the coast to the Osa peninsula.

I had this impression that Guanacaste was more commercialized and the water clarity wasn't as good. I hear the diving is just amazing further south on the Pacific. The diving on the Caribbean is supposedly the best but the culture on that side is sketchy. And bad roads to boot.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I would not have traded Gologiski. I disagree. It was a bad trade for the Pens.

Posted by: pkme

Well, you have to look at how the penguins are built.

They're built on the strength of defensive dmen and power forwards.

The Caps otoh are built more around the concept of offensive dmen and skilled forwards.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 21, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse

crosby and malkin may be some of the top players but the penguins record wont change, they will still keep winning.

Posted by: hdutille11 | February 22, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

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