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Poll: Deadline day drama?

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  March 2, 2010; 7:39 PM ET
 
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I am resigned to the fact that we will head into the playoffs with Theo and Varly. I'm ok with that. MAF needed some playoff experience before he won a SC, albeit with pedestrian numbers.

We do need 2C more than any defensemen. If you don't win faceoffs you will have the ice tilted on you very quickly.

Plenty of time party people. There have been several deals already and I expect about 20+ deals to go down between now and tomorrow @ 3pm. Hopefully GMGM works something that will improve us. Too bad we don't have Ted Ruth to trade.

Posted by: JSchon | March 2, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

One guy we should look into is Eric Brewer. He has a year left. The Blues need to resign Eric Johnson, plus they have Jackman. Too much money tied into defense. Brewer's money is reasonable, 3.5.

I would trade a 1st. Or, a Fehr and a Morrisonn.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 2, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

underpants -

I wouldn't trade Fehr for Brewer. I would rather do a 2nd and Brouchard/Osala/Gordon.

Posted by: BACKS | March 2, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Fehr is an RFA after this year. We can't sign he and flash, and still pay Backstrom what he will require.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 2, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Tarik, you did a really poor job there :) of listing the choices. Like, you forget:

O Put Eric Fehr's number on speed-dial.
O Tell Columbus you'd like to trade for RJ Umberger today, and say you will gladly repay them on Tuesday.
O Offer Micheal Wilbon a contract to take the team photo if we win the Cup.
O Sign Gilbert Arenas to be our enforcer.

I didn't vote. My voice is on record.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 2, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

10% think we need to get a D at any cost? Has everyone forgot that we recently just won 14 in a row including 2 against the defending champs, the runners up, six playoff teams and four more within 3 points of the playoffs going into today. It is not like the entire streak was against bad teams.

Posted by: icehammer97 | March 2, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

icehammer97:
agreed


i don't say this often: go devils!

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

nobody will remember that winning streak if they get bounced off from the playoffs in the second round again...

Posted by: joek443 | March 2, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

The winning streak is over.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 2, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Dman for the right cost. No reason to break the bank or trade away Carlson, Alzner and Neuvy. I don't see a problem with a second line center really, seems there are bigger fish to fry, just my 2 pennies.....

Posted by: LloydChristmas | March 2, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Poni could be heading to Pitt.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=312141

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | March 2, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Im aware Fehr is a RFA. Regardless, I would rather give up picks and prospects instead of someone who can contribute right now. If Fehr goes, an AHLer has to be depended on for the stretch run.

Posted by: BACKS | March 2, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

hockeynightincanada:
i really need to pay attention when i read - i thought you said 'poti'

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Good point BACKS, but we can still trade for another forward. Use prospects for that.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 2, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Ponikarovsky for Luca Caputi once Pittsburgh clears cap space.

GMGM needs to do something.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Personally, Im ok with moving any of the 3 prospects Ive mentioned. I think Bruce and George know that we really dont have a pressing organizational need for wingers. Bourque too.

I would like a combination of prospects/picks/flash for Mcdonald and Brewer out of STL. I think offering up Holtby/Neuvirth would get us a lot of value out of STL where theyre dying for a goalie. Mcdonald is lightning quick with defensive awareness and stanley cup credentials...

Posted by: BACKS | March 2, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Caps make a statement before the deadline. Ponikarovsky is gonna help them.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 2, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

@BACKS

I agree that those prospects should be avaialable as should Holtby (I wouldn't trade Neuvy). I would love to get Brewer and McDonald for prospects/picks. I would rather not trade Flash and deal more prospects, but like every other trade it is dependent on how much St. Louis would be asking for. But GMGM could deal with salary cap ramifications in the summer.

Bourque is obviously available but all he might be able to get you is a bag of pucks. Remember he has been on waivers twice this season and is still in the AHL. If any team wanted him in the NHL they would have grabbed him.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

icehammer97 --- 14 game winning streak is way Kewl man, but what one does in Jan/FEB/Mar does not = in to a Eastern Conference championship or SC in May/JUNE

Posted by: hunter32 | March 2, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Ponikarovsky + Leopold puts the Pens in great position, and the Devils adding Kovalchuk will be huge.

GMGM needs to get us what we need, or we will stand pat and get passed by again. Besides Alzner, Carlson, and Neuvirth, we gotta use whatever assets we have to make a run.

Posted by: sargeantmofo | March 2, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

According to Hockey's Future (www.hockeysfuture.com), the Penguins have the 29th ranked farm system (Caps are #7) and Caputi is listed as their 5th best prospect. So, not much of a price to pay for Ponikarovsky. Ponikarovsky is a +5 on the woeful Leafs (and has typically been a plus player for them) with 19 goals. He is 6'4", 220 and only 29 years old. I hate to say it, but it is an unbelievably good trade for Pittsburgh. It's starting to be concerning. On the plus side, GMGM has scheduled a con call with the STH for Friday at 4PM. One would imagine he expects to have exciting news to discuss. He can't be planning to spend an hour defending why he made no moves, can he?

Posted by: ccCapsfan | March 2, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Poni - is a decent player who disappears for stretches.

Leopold - never has done anything of note in the NHL. Average guy.

Having said that, they are making moves with limited resources.

Posted by: JSchon | March 2, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Ponikarovsky for Luca Caputi once Pittsburgh clears cap space.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 9:00 PM

Wasn't it James Caan who played Luca Caputi in the Godfather II? "I gave him a slapshot he couldn't resist."

underpants2: Can't you get a better handle? Even "briefs" or "FOTL" would be an improvement.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 2, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

@JSchon

True, but Leopold is an improvement for the Pens D even if he is just a 3rd pairing addition, and Poni is an improvement as a winger for either Malkin or Crosby. It also then pushes one of those wingers to the 3rd or 4th line and so on.

And like you said they did that with limited resources and didn't give up much. Ottawa also didn't give up much to add Sutton.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Here are a couple of thoughts on why there is no movement from GMGM (which of course I'll retract if something happends in the next 24 hours). I wonder if all the press the Caps have gotten for how quickly they rebuilt the franchise based partly on GMGM getting ridiculous value as a seller has made other GMs a little unwilling to trade with him. To some extent, that happened to Billy Beane in baseball. The other thought is that I wonder if GMGM is unwilling to add any more Euros to a team that at least arguably gets no love from Canadian NHL officials because it is already perceived as a Euro heavy team?

Posted by: ccCapsfan | March 2, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I voted "upgrade no matter the cost", but obviously within reason. For McPhee "if the price is right" means not having to give up any more than a 5th rounder. None of the pending UFAs are going to command a huge cost besides maybe Volchenkov.

No additions will guarantee a Cup, but the Caps are in THE BEST position of any NHL team in that:
a) They are right on the cusp of being contenders and one or two players truly could make a major difference.
b) They have obvious deficiences. Get us a good stay-at-home defenseman already. We've been begging for one for YEARS.
c) Caps have as much organizational depth as any NHL team. Plenty of prospects and tradeable assets to plug the holes without sacrificing the future.
d) They have a ton of room under the salary cap for a rental player. That's an advantage they probably won't even have next year, w/ Backstrom, Semin, Flash and Fehr all up for raises.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | March 2, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

We have cap room. Probably more than most. We can trade a roster player like flash or fehr. We also have good goaltending prospects. McPhee should be getting offers.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 2, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Also, the best thing about the Chimera trade, and the nylander debacle was the cap room.

Posted by: underpants2 | March 2, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Hatfield: Well written. One sentence though I can pick at:

"For McPhee 'if the price is right' means not having to give up any more than a 5th rounder."

Two years ago, he gave up Sutherby, Ruth (a #2) and another #2 for Cooke, Feds and Huet. Propelled us into the Playoffs.

His first year, he moved Cote and picks I think for Jeff Brown, Tikkanen and Brian Bellows. We went to the Finals.

Last year he was bound and gagged. And it cost us. Really, once you get past the Jagr trade (which was Ted) and the Mironov signing, he's done pretty well. OK, Nylander and Pokoluk, but even Santa gets some of the presents mixed up each year.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 2, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

All the panic is pretty unjustified knowing the deadline isn't here yet. IF 24 hours from now our team hasn't changed then I think it can be intelligently debated if it was the right move or not.

Facts to not forget:
1. GMGM NEVER shows his hand
2. GMGM has shown he can/will make a big trade when right for the club
3. He already made a deal weeks ago that has panned out pretty well so far
4. GMGM has built this team from scratch quicker than most GM's could imagine

I personally don't see Alzner, Carlson or Neuvirth going unless it is a very strong Dman with another yr on his contract. The trend seems to be picks and an average to below average prospect for soon to be UFA's.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 2, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

And don't forget folks, we are at the top of the standings at this moment. Most teams feel they need to do something to catch us! I nkow that seems weird saying it but it's true. You don't think NJ got Kovy because they knew they'd have to score to beat us? Same with Pit, they needed a puck moving Dman and a hard forchecker who can bury the puck in order to get to us. Teams are worried about our scoring and they need to upgrade to try and stop it. We'll see who wins. The winner will not be declared tomorrow at 3pm EST.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 2, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

GMGM has to do something and he will do something... he's been in charge for 13 years and no GM in this business has lifetime job security.

unlike last year they have room under the cap so he doesn't have any excuses this year

Posted by: joek443 | March 2, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

A life time Toronto player smells like playoff DUD too me...

Posted by: BACKS | March 2, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: BACKS | March 2, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I am making tomorrow a "work period" in class so I can listen to trade deadline instead of teaching, so GMGM better do something; I'm depriving kids of education...

Posted by: Aldred15 | March 2, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Our biggest competiton in the Conference has now addressed its two biggest weaknesses: defense and a winger who can score. So if they improve and we stand pat then we've actually lost ground. Its time for GMGM to make a move or two to address our weaknesses.

Isn't that why we were so happy to see Nylander gone, the cap room? When we are going to use that cap space?

Posted by: Gould23 | March 2, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

@pokerface1208

Just because the Caps are at the top doesn't mean they should get complacent. You want to put as much room between you and the teams behind you and give them as small a chance as possible to beat us.

They should seriously consider any move that will improve the club for a cup run.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Yes winning 14 won't mean anything if we get bounced in the second round. In the same light trading for a D-man won't mean anything if we get bounced either.

One of the things the Caps have over every team in the NHL is their scoring depth. Who else can have two guys on pace for over 20 goals on their third line (Flash and Fehr)? If we trade one of those two guys then we lose that advantage we have over teams and it may not be made up by the player we acquire. With our current top lines who do guys key on with their top pair? If they have them go out against Ovechkin and Co. then Semin and Laich can score like they did before the break and Ovechkin can contribute as well. If they have their top guys try and stop Semin then Ovechkin has a field day. And even if the team we play somehow has two shut down pairs then Flash and Fehr can come out against the bottom two guys on the back end. If we lose Flash or Fehr then we lose the ability to have three good scoring lines.

In the offseason Philly added Pronger and Emery and they didn't start doing well until Emery got hurt and they are riding a guy who Carolina waived right now to a playoff spot.

Sometimes no trade is the best trade.

Posted by: icehammer97 | March 2, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

even philly looks pretty good tonight trouncing the bolts 7-2

Posted by: joek443 | March 2, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

The team could use a two-way 2C. If GMGM could get that done for one of the prospects not named Carlson or Varly, he should do it. There is a log jam of "prospects" in Hershey anyway, so he could move a few with destroying the farm team. If he can't get that done, oh well. If the Caps improve their passing...umm "poor ice" skills and some of the forwards at least introduce themselves to Theo and Varly, they could make a deep run with the current personnel.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter what GMGM does people are going to blame him for us not winning the Cup if we don't.

If he makes no move he should have made one. If he gets player A he should have got player B. Even if he gets a D-man and a center and we lose people will say he got the wrong ones. He should have gone after guys earlier like Phaneuf. It is a good thing that we expect a Cup or we did something wrong but the guys running this team know more then we do and if they think making no trade is best I agree.

Posted by: icehammer97 | March 2, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

@joek443 In the third they did. It was only 2-2 after two.

Posted by: icehammer97 | March 2, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

no trade is the best trade if you have no weakness and this team does

no team can win with offense alone and no team can win with defense alone... you gotta have the right balance

even the Great One said that his Oilers of the 80's which had a lot more firepower than Ovie's Caps realized after getting swept by the Islanders in '83 Finals that they had to play better defense even with that firepower

Posted by: joek443 | March 2, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3 They should seriously consider any move that will improve the club for a cup run.

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I'm quite sure GMGM will and has done this. ANYTHING that will improve this team without mortgaging the future will be made. GMGM is pretty savvy and I trust that he will make some move to improve the team, he already did a month or so ago.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 2, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Ponikarovsky + Leopold

"puts the Pens in great position"

"Having said that, they are making moves with limited resources"

"they did that with limited resources and didn't give up much"

"Our biggest competiton in the Conference has now addressed its two biggest weaknesses: defense and a winger who can score"

i picked out a few quotes here (i'm not picking on anyone for their comments) - but i didn't hear one mention of either of these two guys before today - but it would appear that they could improve pit as a team.

what i'd like to say is - if these two can make pit better - can everyone (well a lot of you anyway) please stop asking for guys like kovi, nieds, vokoun, forsberg

if (and i mean if) GMGM can make a move - please don't complain too much that it wasn't for a big enough impact guy

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter what GMGM does people are going to blame him for us not winning the Cup if we don't.
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I am one of the bigger proponents of making a move, but won't blame him either way. We are good enought to win now, but that doesn't mean we should do nothing. I believe we have obvious weaknesses that can be addressed to give us a better chance this year, and it can be done without screwing up our chances to contend next year and beyond.

Posted by: Gould23 | March 2, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Just to let you guys know, Luca Caputi is supposed to be an NHL'r someday. Big body.

Here is a quote from a Pens friend; " Hate trading Caputi for a rental, a rental who's not very good. Would much rather have traded a second+ for Whitney. "

Poni is horribly inconsistent.

Leopold also...sucks. So it's not like adding him did anything but add depth.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 2, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk:

I'm one of those quotes and I agree with you. We don't need a "big impact" guy, but we sure could use a little fine tuning in certain spots. A couple of draft picks for a D and a 3C, that would do it. But often that fine tuning makes the difference. Look at Guerin and the D's Pitt picked up last year. Those were not big impact deals but they sure helped put them over the top.

Posted by: Gould23 | March 2, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to keep it simple..

Just get a defenseman. For those of you who think that the regular season means anything are crazy. The regular season is for trophies.

DEFENSE wins Championships..This isnt the mid 80's. As long as we have guys like Semin on the team we will always need quality d-men to kill those pealties.

Posted by: cptjack70 | March 2, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

icehammer97 - I completely agree. Also, even the greatest addition might be "off" and not deliver what was expected when needed. Look how many players over the years get branded because they cannot produce in the playoffs. On the "philosophical" side, I feel the players we have deserve the chance at the Cup as Capitals, and bringing in new faces with 20 games to go ... they just will not have EARNED their place on the team. Some fans will argue, "whatever it takes to win the Cup", but I don't see it that way. The Caps organization does not owe the fans the Cup at any expense. The players earn it, not us, and we are only there to support them and enjoy their accomplishment.

Posted by: gonchpup | March 2, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I also agree that the deal does not need to be big "big impact" deal, but I would have liked it if GMGM did the trade for Sutton that Ottawa did. I hope he does something similar to that.

@richmondphil

Poni is inconsistent but he is better than what the Pens had previously. The guy doesn't have to be great to improve a team, he just has to be better than what the team had previously.

The same goes for Leopold too. And that's why I think doing that trade for Sutton would've been good for the Caps. He would have been an improvement on defense and for not much of a cost.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer & Capt

I think GMGM has built a team good enough to make a Cup run in the salary cap era. Unfortunately, a lot of fans and some writers/bloggers will blame him and some combination of Poti/Semin/Morrisonn/Flash if the Caps don't win a Cup this year. The Caps have never won a Cup and GMGM has been here 13 years. Add to that the best player in the world has been here for 5, so people want to see results. And with Sid winning the Cup and a gold medal, the pressure is even greater to produce this year. It's not fair, but that's reality.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Well since I am a huge proponent of a trade(s) happening, I understand the desire to bring in upgrades.

But there is no need to over exaggerate what Leopold or Poni will bring.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 2, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

The guy doesn't have to be great to improve a team, he just has to be better than what the team had previously.
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@sgm3: Exactly! And there are players available that would do just that for us and the cost to acquire them would not be absurd.

Posted by: Gould23 | March 2, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70: I think the pressure is greater this year because for the first time in a very long time, perhaps ever, the Caps are good enough to win right now.

Posted by: Gould23 | March 2, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

@Gould23 it is true we have weaknesses but ever team does. Pittsburgh may be great at Center but their wings are not very good and their D is even worse then it was last season. NJ even with Kovy still has scoring issues as do the Sabers. The Sens don't have a proven goalie. The list goes on no team is perfect.

@cptjack70 cliches don't win anything. Was Pittsburgh's D really that great last year? They were 17th in GA/G last season so if Defense won the championship last year it would have gone to Boston or The Wild who were the top two in GA/G.

Even just looking at the playoffs then Boston wins the Cup because of their best GA/G. Pittsburgh was only 4th in just the playoffs.

Posted by: icehammer97 | March 2, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup

Seriously? So Guerin and Kunitz did not earn that cup last year. Do you really want to go through every team that won the cup and see who they acquired at the deadline.

Yes, the players earn it, not the fans. But the Caps organization "duty" is to entertain the fans. That is how they make their money and if they didn't entertain their fans they would no longer be in business. Since professional sports make their money from consumer interest the teams do their best to keep the consumer interest high. In sports that is to have a winning team and win championships. Us commenting is our opinion on what is the best way to win a championship. Many teams who have won titles have found the best way to achieve that was to acquire players at the deadline. Recently, it has worked for the Pens the last two years (one finals loss and one title) and they continue to do it.

Also, the players are workers, the fans are the consumers. The team has more of a duty to the fans as a whole than to any particular player.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Pittsburgh may be great at Center but their wings are not very good and their D is even worse then it was last season.
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@icehammer: we are in agreement there, which is why I'm unhappy about them getting Leopold and Poni without giving up much. Neither player is an all-star, but both are an improvement over whomever they replace. So the Pens are better tonight then they were 24 hours ago and we are status quo. That worries me.

Posted by: Gould23 | March 2, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

@ sgm3

Kunitz and Guerin did their parts for the Pens, but I think a number of things fell into place to help them win the Cup. The Pens were in the SCF the year before, so the foundation for winning was there. Also, that team went on a "miraculous" playoff push once the hated Thierren was fired and Gonchar returned after 55 games. They even won eight straight without winning streak without the Next Great One. That being said, I don't think adding Bill Geurin would have helped the Caps much last year.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 2, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

sgm3 - The Caps DO entertain the fans and most would agree that they have done well at that. I'm just of the belief that THEY earn the Cup and not for us. Maybe I come from an angle of principle. Guys some of you might consider trade potential have more right to play for the Cup than somebody just brought on board. I am NOT saying that guys like Guerin did not factor in for the Pens last year. In fact, they brought more to the games than Sid. Still, I personally don't like the idea regardless. I would love to see each team in the league be required to stay with who's on the roster in October, with brought-ups from the AHL to fill the holes. Maybe only 10% of the fans will agree with me on this one, but it's just how I feel. Call it loyalty. Also, I imagine how difficult it might be if a player such as "Avery" (perish the thought) was brought in and I had to support him. Imagine a trade that sends somebody like Brads or Laich packing - it's been done in the past and I just hate seeing things like that happen so late in the season.

Posted by: gonchpup | March 2, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

all most of us are looking for is a little tinkering, NOT a major overhaul with this team...

doing nothing will be unexcusable especially after all these moves made by their major competitors in the EC.

Posted by: joek443 | March 2, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

@Gould23 Poni is a slight improvement but he is having a career year and at best is a 25 goal getter. Leopold is not really that big of an upgrade either. He isn't really an offensive guy with only 7 goals and 11 assists. He also has a history of getting hurt with only 15 GP in 06-07 and 43 GP in 07-08. Martin Skoula who they gave up in the Poni trade is not much worse then Leopold if at all. Really the only improvement they made is getting Poni the two D is almost a wash.

Posted by: icehammer97 | March 2, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup

That is fine that you feel that way. I'm sure there are many people with different views on how certain rules of the league should set up.

But I'm just looking at the deadline with how the league is now and with how the rules of the league are set up it is often beneficial for teams very close to the Cup to make a deadline acquisition.

I'm not saying to get rid of roster players, but adding a player of Sutton's quality for a draft pick and then demoting Sloan to the minors would, IMO, been a nice addition that would've helped the Caps with their top 6 D-men and therefore their defensive depth since their #6 would drop to #7 and so on.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

sgm3 - I could live with that. One last point on keeping the roster and not just for the "chemistry" argument, but I think we have a coachable group that can modify their play and tighten up if necessary (more of a playoff D), and they are still young and improving. I don't feel that this is our only crack at the Cup. We have a great core of players that should be in contention for several years to come. It must be great to be in Bruce's shoes.

Posted by: gonchpup | March 2, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Larry Robinson was fired after leading the Devils to the Cup and a trip back to the Finals... don't think for a minute that GMGM and BB have a 4 or 5-year window to win the Cup.

if they don't produce in the next couple years, I doubt either one will be still here.

Posted by: joek443 | March 2, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup

I agree, but that raises another point. With so many good, young players on the Caps it will not be easy for young players to crack the lineup.

As someone noted earlier, with the Caps strength at winger when is Bouchard, Gordon or Osala or another prospect going to get a serious chance to have an extend stay with the Caps. A prospect starts to lose his value if he is still in the minors at age 23. That is another reason why it would be ok to deal some prospects, especially wingers.

And with Carlson and Alzner about to enter the Caps you would have to think it might be a few years before they bring up another young defenseman. I'm assuming they would like to surround Alzner, Carlson, and a still relatively young Green with a few veteran defenseman.

This is a wonderful problem to have, but I hope the Caps don't waste it to just have some valuable prospects vacate the organization without ever playing for the Caps or getting anything in return.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

gonchpup:
i'd call myself a 10%'er

i enjoy the entertainment the caps provide. that, for me, consists of their current roster + prospects. i was sad to see clark and juice go but will root for shimmy to do well. i didn't get attached to fedorov, huet or cooke (although i wanted them to keep cooke) as i thought of them as rentals. i'm glad feds stuck around for ovi and semin.

no matter what GMGM does, i'll deal with it and continue to root for the caps.
i think this is the best caps team ever and 'as is' has a better than decent chance at the cup.
please don't take that to mean that they have no faults - because they do.

GMGM: do your thing

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

As someone noted earlier, with the Caps strength at winger when is Bouchard, Gordon or Osala or another prospect going to get a serious chance to have an extend stay with the Caps. A prospect starts to lose his value if he is still in the minors at age 23. That is another reason why it would be ok to deal some prospects, especially wingers.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 11:42 PM

i see the value in keeping these assests as they will be needed on the 'big' club when players like flash, fehr, semin, varly or neuvy, etc can not be retained due to salary caps. there will come a time, possibly this summer, when GMGM really lowballs someone on an offer and they will walk. these prospects with entry level contracts and knowledge of the 'system' are, IMO, part of Ted and GMGM's long ranges plans.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 2, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Gordon is 24, Osala is 22, and Bouchard is about 22. I do agree that it is a great way to run a team to replace some of your players who start to become expensive with quality prospects brought up in the system.

But there is no way Gordon, Osala, and Bouchard will all get a shot with the Caps. My guess would be that one will. Now, it is up to GMGM and the scouts to determine which one is worth keeping and what others are tradeable.

Again, this is not to say trade them away for anything. But with how close the Caps are to winning the Stanley Cup, I think it would be prudent to trade one or two of them for a player or players that would increase the Caps chances of winning the Cup this yearby minimizing their defeciencies.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

The only move I see the Caps needing to make is a physical, stay-at-home defenseman - one who can clear people like Crosby out of the crease. We're fine on forwards - we have 3 centers who can do their jobs quite well, and 2 wingers in Flash and Laich who can play center and have done so quite well in the past. But I would be very disappointed if we were to trade Fehr or Flash. Fehr is rapidly turning into a Knuble-type, the kind of player who can get his big body in front of the goalie and cause problems there. And while Flash can be inconsistent, he is fast, has great moves, and has a good defensive game. We have plenty of picks and prospects we can trade, or we have defensemen in Morrisonn and Pothier who can be traded.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

sgm3:
i'm not opposed to upgrading deficiencies, i just don't want to see a decent prospect moved to pick up, say, a #5 or 6 d man that would bump sloan and technically 'improve' the team. i just don't see this type of move as widening the gap with the competition.
i also don't want to see a roster player/prospect/pick traded for a rental or high priced cap strapping contract - that often seems to not work out as hoped.

GMGM: try to keep it simple and keep the core intact

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 3, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

People are a little edgy. Thankfully, only about 9 hours of this waiting left.

Looking forward to getting some news and to seeing the Caps play Miller tonight.

Posted by: Sonyask | March 3, 2010 5:55 AM | Report abuse

I would be curious to find out how many SC teams did not make at least one trade at the deadline...i mean it pains me to note that the Pens have been to the finals 2 years in a row now after makeing some relatively big trades at the deadline! And now they have done it again...well the trade I mean

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

I see that Buffalo sat Miller and lost with Lalime to the Pens, and now we get Miller tonight.

I think Caps recalled Varly, Sloan and Laing to have extra players in case of deal. So, wouldn't be surprising if someone off the roster got moved.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Happy 26th birthday to Alex Semin. How about a game winning goal to celebrate.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | March 3, 2010 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Question for the folks to take their minds off the cliffhanger that is trade day with GMGM at the helm (remember we got word on one trade in the last year over an hour after the deadline had passed). Was the Pronger deal last year a 'Snyder deal?' With a 'Snyder deal' meaning paying somebody paying top dollars in a long term deal after the player has peaked. This doesn't mean they've dropped off horribly, just not performing at the elite level reflected in their deal. Discuss.

Posted by: TheCapitalist1 | March 3, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm a bit bummed that the Caps have not upgraded their blueline yet or moved Morrison for a better center or picked up a pk specialist (their weakest area, frankly). Here's to hoping that GMGM will be able to make a smart move to improve the team without it costing a potentially good player for years (Flash and Fehr) or a solid prospect who will be a consistent NHL'er in a year or two (e.g. Alzner, Carlson, Osala, Bouchard, or Bourke)

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | March 3, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Some of th people on here are absolutely hilarious typing entries as if GMGM is sitting in his office reviewing what they are saying. A move will be made if he does not have to mortgage the farm, and please do not argue about the D that have already moved for draft picks....he obviously felt they did not fit our system and I would think he would be able to judge this much more than any of us can. I think a move will be made and it will be a rather major one either with Anaheim, St Louis, or Ottowa but the bigger moves take longer to complete and negotiate. Please people, just take a valium and relax....I swear, some of you are going to have a heart attack!

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

JIMALLCAPS1, you say you are dissapointed that no moves have been made and yet then you say you are not willing to give anything up?! Don't you have to give something to get something? Who would you suggest they part with if you don't want to give up any of the players you mentioned...doesn't leave a whole lot of chess pieces.

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

It would be sweet if the Caps are on the verge of landing Volchenkov as long as GMGM doesn't have to give up too much to get him. It would make sense that it would be a deadline deal if Volchenkov is moved because Murray does have an offer for him and he has probably given Volchenkov a time he needs to respond by today. If we do land him he might not be a rental either because he could be an important piece to have in place for a while. If he is to be had for 3.5 to 4 a year we could afford him if Pothier and some others are moved.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Tarik, totally off the topic, but would you please get Wilbon some tickets to a Caps game. That nonsense he wrote today was his first column about the Caps since October. He may be absolutely right about Ovie (I don't happen to agree with him, but in the area of opinion we are all equal.) But, his knowledge of the game, his knowledge of the Caps, and his obvious disinterest in anything to do with hockey, judging from his lack of writing anything about it, makes his credibility a farce. So as a colleague of his, chew his a** out!

Posted by: RogerNoVa | March 3, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Happy 26th birthday to Alex Semin. How about a game winning goal to celebrate.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | March 3, 2010 7:01 AM |

If ShaMo could do it on his 26th (in amazing OT fashion) I'd like to think Semin could follow suit.

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

@PhilR

First, we are all just discussing what we think should happen even though it will have no effect on what does happen. Just like discussing how the team performs after a game or people talking about politics, movies, tv shows, and other various things. It is done for entertainment.

It is true that GMGM may have not made any of the previous deals because he didn't feel the player fit the Caps system. It is all possible he didn't make a deal because he didn't have the guts to pull the trigger or is overconfident in some of the players' abilities.

Yes, GMGM clearly knows a lot more of what he is doing than anyone here, but general managers, even good ones, make mistakes.

Even Milbury was a general manager for a few year and I bet after a few of those deals some fans were saying "he is the GM, he knows more than we do".

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

sgm3, There is a huge difference between simply discussing what you would like to see happen and absolutely over reacting to the point that you sound like a raving lunatic like some have been in this forum in the last 24 hours. I enjoy a good dicussion as much as the rest but the "GMGM sucks", "he doesn't have the guts it takes", doom and gloom stuff is just way over the top IMHO.

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Alzner for trade bait? Better be more than a one and gone player. Flash, Fehr, one of our goalies would work.

Posted by: coastallp74 | March 3, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

It's painful to wait, perhaps even moreso to read the comments. GM's not sitting around doing nothing, but is busy. I'm tempted just to refrain from CI for a while and wait. As a STH I'll get an announcement from the org when and if it happens. Fortunately the deadline is mid-afternoon, so should find out not long after.

Otherwise, it's time to start a new streak.

Posted by: Sonyask | March 3, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

All we need at the deadline is $2 beers....Im sticking with my story

Posted by: SA-Town | March 3, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I have a quick question- based on all we've seen of the 3, who would you prefer to keep the most at this trade deadline (least expendable)?

Carlson
Neuvirth
Alzner

I'm basing this solely on each of their games played in NHL. I know Carlson has only played a couple. And Alzner started out hot. But based on recent play, more upside, type of player, needs in the future etc.- this is how I rank them.

Feel free to shred me.

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Other teams improve themselves and this team without changes is not ready for playoff hockey. SA-Town enjoy your $2.00 beers.

Wilborn stopped teabagging Michael Jordan long enough to expoand a 30-second PTI sound bite into a hacket job that shows he remains ignorant about hockeyt and doesn't care about the sport. I wonder if he knows the name of the player who scored the WJC OT winning goal without prompting? Untill he does, his claims to liking hockey is BS.

Posted by: rbluesw | March 3, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I only got through a little over half of the comments. But for those of you saying we shouldnt mortgage the future, that is absurd. The fact GMGM and Ted say it is absurd. You don't get this close to the Cup every year. We have a chance to do it this year. Every single prospect other than Carlson and one goalie should be in play. Roster players such as Flash/Fehr, Pothier, Morissonn should be in play as well.

Posted by: ThePat | March 3, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Brooks to Florida??

Posted by: ridgely1 | March 3, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

The old adage of if you are standing still you are getting behind. The regular season the Caps have the best team, but other teams have or will get better with trades. The Caps will not be facing the same teams in April/May than they played in January, they will be better than they were. The reason you have assets is to trade 2, 3 or 4 to get one player or two to get you over the top when you get close. Players are moving got get on the train before it leaves the station.

Posted by: RichC3 | March 3, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

@PhilR

By saying "he doesn't have the guts to go through" is a short way of saying it is an occassion when two GMs agree on a trade but right before they finalize it, one GM gets tentative and starts to second guess himself and therefore doesn't go through with the deal. This then happens on multiple occassions and no trade is consumated by the deadline.

While I hope that isn't what's happening and that GMGM has a great deal lined up that he is ready to complete, it is important to consider all possible scenarios and mention them as possible reasons for the actions that took place.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I also think GMGM is a great general manager, but IMO it is important for him to make a deal at this year's deadline.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

I also think GMGM is a great general manager, but IMO it is important for him to make a deal at this year's deadline.

sgm3, if you read my posts above I also feel that a deal needs to be made and that it will....a rather large deal with one of the three teams I mentioned in that earlier post. Larger deals take more time and negotiation....throwing a hissy fit on the CI blog will not make those negotiations move any faster....not saying that you are throwing that fit but many on here are!!

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Come on GMGM!!!!

On another note, I am subbing for a teacher and I have just notices he AO bobble head! I like this teacher!

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

ICEHAMMER----the final two games of the cup finals last year were 2-1. So yes defense wins when it really counts....With that said maybe the word "defense" is the wrong one to use. What the caps lack(ed) is the ability or experience to turn it up a notch in the playoffs. The question is do the caps have it now, that understanding of playoff hockey??Will the caps sacrifice it all to win??

Posted by: cptjack70 | March 3, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Interesting...Nobody on TSN has Washington as the top pick for the Cup...Prove em wrong Caps!!!

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

6 hours. Plenty of players to help push us over the top. Come on McPhee.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I am worthless at work today lol> looking at blogs and stuff. This is exciting!
We need to make atleast one move. Staying put will def hurt our chances. We have cap space and we cant resign the likes of Flash and Fehr, while signing Backstrom to a 6-8 mil deal. Make some moves!

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | March 3, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

I am not in a panic, but I am concerned that the Pens and Sens are making subtle changes to make their team better. I would like to see the Caps make some changes to improve too. It doesn't have to be a big splash, just something to upgrade the d a little would be nice.

@Fro - Going into this year I would have said that Alzner was untouchable. However after watching him play this year I would have to say he's the odd man out. Carlson is the keeper. He looks like he's going to be the real deal. I like the way Neuvy improved with each game played, but at this point I think I would still go with Varly.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | March 3, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

This is from speculation back on the 12th from website http://www.insidehockey.com/columns/5915:

There is a big section entitled "Anton Volchenkov update" you can read if you go to the above URL. The part I found interesting was...


My guess? He will test the free agent market this summer. After the Sens game against the Capitals last night, Alex Semin and Alex Ovechkin spent 10 minutes waiting in the hallway to talk to Volchenkov. And then they spent another 20 minutes chatting. Now the three will be spending the next two weeks in Vancouver for the Olympic games and after Anton blocked 11 shots, do you think they might bring up the fact that Washington would be a good fit for him? Guarantee it.

And add to the fact I spoke with a Capital player who said they could use a player like him, I get the feeling he might be a good fit for the Caps. Which isn't a good sign for Ottawa.

This is the 3rd different rumor I have found in the last couple of implying Volchekov could be headed to DC. Even though it seems like a long time ago, it really isn't because nobody could be moved during the Olympics. Now Murray is a good GM so the Caps WILL give up someone the Sens can use (top 6 forward) and a 1st or 2nd round pick. Volchenkov might just be worth it because IMO the Caps would not only rent this guy, they'd look to lock him up. He's a solid stay at home guy. richmondphil has been eyeing him since last summer.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I am new lover of hockey but I am born and grown in DC. I am a huge homer and always will be. Nothing makes me happier than when a home team is a winner.

Now that the CAPS are one of the premier teams and most likely will be that for the next 4 years.....I see one glaring problem.

They give up to many goals. Could this bite them this year- next year- the years after? Who know's-- but I do know that to withstand the Pens or San Jose - they better figure a way of stopping the goals.

You can't always depend on outscoring other teams.

My thoughts would be to attain a defenseman by 3 pm today. I don't know enough about the sport to tell you who---but I do know we need someone that will help stop the blood flow.

My 2 cents.

Posted by: pstate11 | March 3, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Puck Daddy has hourly trade updates complete with a Milbury scale... pretty funny.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-s-2010-NHL-Trade-Deadline-Live-Blog-?urn=nhl,225432

Posted by: griz0615 | March 3, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Jose + top prospect, and draft pick for Vokoun and we become instant Favorites for Stanley Cup...Everyone is so big on Varly, but he is a young guy without a whole lot of experience.(Bashers notice I say lot of experience). I would love to see caps get Vokoun..If not we need a rugged Defensemen. Everyone says look how we are in first place but tell me how that matters come playoff time..Ask the Bruins last year.. We need a D-man and possible goalie... Other teams are getting better we need to do something.. I have faith GMGM know this could be our year and it would be worth overpaying to bring a cup to DC

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

@CapsBaby

The large hangup to that would be that Vokoun has a $5.7M cap hit next year. However, that could be alleviated if the Caps trade him in the offseason, also acquiring similar assets that they lost in the acquiring Vokoun. This would rest on Vokoun giving up his no trade clause for the rest of his contract. I have no idea if he would be willing to do this or not.

@PhilR

I am not making any conclusions on the deadline until after it passes, but it is fun to speculate.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Brooks to Florida??

Posted by: ridgely1 | March 3, 2010 8:43 AM

Herb?

The deal with Ottawa could be thusly - Caps give up a certain amount now, and then, if they agree with Volchenkov on contract extention, Ottawa also then gets 1st and 4th picks.

Like, Caps trade Flash for Volchenkov. In June, we sign him to 5 yrs/$22.5-25M. Sens then get those picks. If we don't extend him, they throw back a 2nd pick for getting to keep Flash.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Poni could be heading to Pitt.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=312141


Here we go again... :S FTR, I am not a person advocating that the team be blown up nor that GMGM stand pat...particularly not when a) specific needs have been identified and b) there is room available under the salary cap.

That said, I do generally trust his judgement, and I have hope and faith that whatever move(s) he makes will be the best possible move(s) for the club given the available resources.

Having a better understanding of the trade process (and the importance/fragility of team chemistry) now than I did years ago, I also know that to get back someone who meets the aforementioned needs, we may have to give up somebody that I will miss seeing in a Caps sweater.


Happy 26th birthday to Alex Semin. How about a game winning goal to celebrate.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | March 3, 2010 7:01 AM |


GWG, nothing!...How about a Hat Trick "Capped" by a GWG? As with so many problems whose complexity we bemoan, the solution is really quite simple:

"...Score more goals..."

--The Red Jesus

Posted by: Rhino40 | March 3, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Nancy Reagan says,

"Just say No to Vokoun."

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

fwiw, this Edmonton paper is reporting the Caps are interested in D Steve Staios, and speculates GMGM may be offering a pick and Erskine in return:
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Washington+Capitals+eyeing+Oilers+Staios/2633272/story.html
"The Capitals would be pitching a draft pick for the 36-year-old assistant captain -- the going rate seems to be second-rounders, but you can bet they are also telling the Oilers they have to take back somebody with salary they don't want on their books. That could be a defenceman like John Erskine ($1.25 million next season), so that Staios's hit next season isn't so steep."

Posted by: blackjack65 | March 3, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I agree with everyone that Vokoun is a good goaltender, but is he a regular season goaltender? He has NEVER made it out of the 1st round. He hasn't been on great teams but Theodore really hasn't either and Theodore has NEVER failed to get out of the 1st round. If we were shooting for a goaltender with playoff success I'd say let's go for it, but one that has experienced less playoff success than Theo or Varly, I say no.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I just don't see Ottawa agreeing to that.

I think they are trying to set themselves up for at least one playoff round victory and they need Volchenkov to do that. Without Volchenkov their D along with their goalie makes their defensie play too big of a liability.

On the other hand, maybe Bryan Murray has a Milbury Moment and does that deal. I hope so. (Also, I like Flash and would hate to see him go, but that deal would make too much sense for the Caps not to complete).

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Brooks to Florida??

Posted by: ridgely1 | March 3, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

What!?

Posted by: zyvo23 | March 3, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

@fanhock1

Every goalie at some point in their career had never advanced past the 1st round. Vokoun hasn't had enough playoff time to be able to tell what he would do.

But he did play very well in the Olympics so he has handled pressure situations pretty well even though that was only a few games. (yes, the Czechs lost to Finland but it was 1-0 with an empty netter added at the end).

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

How do you guys feel about Canes DMan Joe Corvo? He has been linked to us. Had 14 goals and 24 assists last year and only 4 and 8 this year but playing for a mediocre team.

Posted by: capsfan5252 | March 3, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Vokoun makes no sense because of next year's cap. It makes a million times more sense to try and sign Volchenkov, move Flash and Poti for next year and go with the two cheap goalies. Add back a cheap forward like Bouchard and you are cap neutral all around (actually a bit ahead). Put Vokoun and you are five million in the hole. Much more sense is to use my scenario and then acquire a vet goalie at the next year's deadline if needed for 2011 Cup run. Volchenkov, Green, Schultz, Carlson and Alzner anchor defense for next five years. Varly or Neuvy and then Holtby in goal. Forwards a'plenty we have.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I wish NHL films and Steve Sabol would team up to give a behind the scenes look at "Trade Deadline Day" like they do with random NFL games. I'd love to know what is said in the 36 hours leading up to the deadline.

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

is there any way we could pry tim gleason away from carolina?

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Joe Corvo a possibility? What do people think?

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | March 3, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

sgm3: That's why I wanted Sutton. I thought he'd be the rental and then we could sign Volchenkov as a UFA and pay nothing in comp, but we'd have to move off Flash and Poti to make the cap work.

That's why the Staios thing is confusing, because he's signed through next year at cap 2.7 (salary 2.2). Even moving Ersk for Staios puts you 1.5 behind next year.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

How do you guys feel about Canes DMan Joe Corvo? He has been linked to us. Had 14 goals and 24 assists last year and only 4 and 8 this year but playing for a mediocre team.

Posted by: capsfan5252 | March 3, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Corvo was always a Cap killer. Kind of like Jon Sim.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Pittsburg is loading up- we better do something today!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

When the Sens traded for Sutton that told me that they are buyers not sellers. That means Volchenkov is not going anywhere. Common sense.

Posted by: RichC3 | March 3, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I agree 100% about Sutton and have felt that way since Sutton got traded.

I heard on the trade deadline show this morning that Barnaby was calling Corvo soft (in a comparison to Souray).

I have no idea if this is true, but that would worry me some. But he still would be an improvement over what the Caps have.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Someone in an earlier post asked if the Pronger deal was a Snyder deal? Well, I hope so!!!

On a related note: One thing that irks me is the Flyers load up every off-season and then at the trade deadline their name is attached to every single top player available as well. I see they're in the running for Hamhhuis, Vokoun, Torres, etc... Before Phaneuf was dealt to the Leafs, Philly was supposedly his next destination, too. No way can they have the cap room for all that. Don't the rules apply to them? How the hell can they be in the running for everybody? Some speculate they do it just to drive the price up for the other teams. The league should look into that.

Posted by: CAP-lanta | March 3, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

What should the Caps do before the trade deadline, trade Mike Wilbon.

Posted by: mfogleman | March 3, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Check out this report from ESPN:

We thought the Washington Capitals weren't going to trade for a goalie, but the New York Post has an "inside source" who says they're looking to deal Jose Theodore and a forward to Boston for Tim Thomas.

We know Thomas is potentially on the block, and we know the Caps have been sniffing around goalies.

Last month, Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli was quietly trying to talk with teams about trading Thomas, but word got out. Thomas, however, may not want to waive his no-trade clause, and he is irked by this trade talk. However, since it looks like the B's have already given Tuukka Rask the keys to the crease, Thomas may OK a deal.

Posted by: mjwies11 | March 3, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

On a game note, tonight might be the only night where the team who is playing in the 2nd night of back-to-back games has the advantage.

My thinking is that the players who had the 17 days off will be a little rusty early and may take a few periods to get back into it. Buffalo went through that last night. With Miller not playing last night (it would've been nice if he did so the Caps wouldn't have to face him) he won't be effected by it and I think playing last night will actually help most of the Sabres skaters.

Not a big deal or anything, just sort of an interesting anomaly.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

rubbish report on thomas

Posted by: samb99 | March 3, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Caps may be in the Whitney discussion

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Thomas' long term deal is nothing the Caps want to touch. Unless, like Vokoun, they were able to turn around and trade him in the off-season to another team.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Why would they want Thomas instead of Theo?

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

derek morris is going back to phoenix allegedly

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Thomas has three more years cap hit $5M per. Why in God's name with three young goalies all almost NHL-ready would we do that?

That wouldn't just be insane, it would be Crazy Eddie insane.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I would love Vokoun, but I am not sure how I feel about Thomas!

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I love it! Trade deadline, draft day, and first day of the free agent season is when we're all just as good as the experts. By that, I mean that we all suck with our predictions. How many of these rumors ever come true? 100+ comments and one person will probably guess it right. Even still, I gladly waste my time reading all the speculation, rumors and opinions. Hopefully we all agree that we love our Caps as much at 3:01 PM as we do at 2:59 PM, regardless of what GMGM does or does not do.

Posted by: hockeyweasel | March 3, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

If the Caps acquire Whitney that would have to mean they have a seperate deal lined up to trade a winger (probably Flash) for another player since they would have too many wingers. Unless Chimera got knocked to the 4th line to play with Stecks and Brads.

If no winger was traded and the Caps got Whitney that would make the top 3 lines so good and all very dangerous to score. It wouldn't do anything to solve the Caps defensive deficiencies, but it is interesting to think about.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Tim Thomas. Ok, well, he's 35 years old and still has 3 years left on a 4 year $12 mil dollar deal. I don't know how it is structured as far as year to year but let's just say he is still owed $3 mil per year. He's 13-15-7 with a save percentage of 91. The Bruins provide no goal support this season though. They are dead last in the league in scoring with 150, but have only given up 158 which is the 7th lowest in the league.

Last year's second round exit, as far as stats are concerned, cannot be blamed on Thomas. He had a 93.5 save percentage and a 1.85 GAA. Great numbers.

Now, with 3 years left on his deal, do the Caps want him? Does that mean Varly and/or Neuvy and/or Holtby are going to be given an opportunity to take the crease, or will they stay with the older salary guy. Another question would be is Tim Thomas worth $3 mil a year if relagated to a back-up role? Questions I'm glad I don't have to answer. Oh yeah, which forward would the Caps send Boston's way is another question.

Glad I am just a fan.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

@mfogleman

Great post!

I hope every Cap fan here has sent a blistering email to that moron Wilbon.

Posted by: CAP-lanta | March 3, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

McPhee has cap space, more than any other team in the hunt. He has assets. If he makes no moves, and this team loses in round 1 or 2, he should lose his job.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Belay my last regarding Thomas' contract. Refer to tominfl. His hit is $5 a year. NO WAY!

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Word has it the Thrashers have petitioned the league to see if Chelios can play in a wheelchair.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I agree completely. But I do want to through in the possible idea of trading the acquired goaltender (Thomas or Vokoun) in the summer to another team so it would not effect the cap space and would be like a pending UFA except the Caps would actually get a return in the off-season.

Now this would be contingent on either of them relinquishing their NMCs.

This is a highly unlikely scenario, but it would be a possible solution to the cap problem you mentioned.

But, like you, I don't think the Caps should or will do either deal.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Thomas signed a new 4-yr $20M that started this year. And, I think it has the dreaded "no trade."

Wouldn't touch that contract with Zdeno Chara's hockey stick.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

sgm3: The problem with Volkoun or Thomas, as we came to understand with Nylander, is that "waiving" of the no-trade is an individual event for each occurrence of movement. Suppose a player waives to be traded today, you have no way to know if that player will waive again come summer. The risk with being stuck with either contract is too high, especially w/Thomas.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Fun news: "Tampa Bay players have been told their flight has been pushed back to 3:30 ET and not to be surprised if there are moves made." This news is from TSN BobMcKenzie on Twitter.

The Tampa Bay flight in question is to DC as they play the Caps tomorrow night at the Verizon Center. Who will, or will not be on the flight?

Posted by: MReilly9 | March 3, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

the bruins move to dump derek morris was just a salary dump, which my guess would be that they pick up kaberle

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Ponikarovsky for Luca Caputi once Pittsburgh clears cap space.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 2, 2010 9:00 PM

As a Caps fan living in Pittsburgh, I can tell you these fans and the fawning media believe they have another Cup locked up. But seeing these two trades (Leopold and Ponikarovsky) and realizing that the Pens gave up literally nothing makes me think the Panthers and Leafs are part of the Pens' conspiracy: Make sure Crosby wins the Cup. Ridiculous.

GO CAPS!

Posted by: redrocker2 | March 3, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

How is it that the Pens are always able to have the space to make big trades at the deadline? And when is it going to finally bite them in the butt!

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I was suggesting the possibility that either Vokoun or Thomas would waive their NMC completely, for the remainder of the contract, before a trade was completed.

I'm not sure if this could be done or not, so the idea may be moot. Also, either player may refuse to do so. But if it was possible it could be a possible resolution.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Wilbon writing about hockey is like Ovechkin playing golf.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | March 3, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

You don't need much space to make deadline deals. The season is 80% complete. Therefore, if you underran the cap by $1M all year todate, you can fit a $5M salary for the last 20% of the season and end the year using every dollar. I could write out a long equation, showing the formula, but you're probably not interested.

The Caps last year had absolutely no wiggle room to do that.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Ovechkin played golf once and got a hole-in-one. Wilbon writes about hockey once and lands out-of-bounds.

sgm3: I'm not sure you can "obliterate" the no-trade since a contract in the NHL once signed can't be modified.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

martin skoula to the devils

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I would only accept the Tim Thomas trade if we can get Avery too. They're great friends and their chemistry would really boost the morale of this team.

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

This is absolutely awful.

I have to go to lunch.

Posted by: tominfl1 | March 3, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Tarik we need a morning round up please

Posted by: redmatt | March 3, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Hell no Tim Thomas, I would not be happy with that trade..however it is an upgrade of Theo, but Thomas has a contract we would be stuck with...

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

I agree, I have work to do but it is very hard to focus. I just want the Caps to complete their deals now so I can get back to focusing on work.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Washington's work productivity has been shut down to a degree that even Jim Bunning could not accomplish.

Posted by: zmega | March 3, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Fro_ Joking, right?

Posted by: gonchpup | March 3, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

is it too much to ask that McPhee actually complete a trade like I dunno, maybe a freaking day BEFORE the deadline ? is that possible? when you wait till the last minute every year sometimes you don't leave yourself any time when a trade falls thru.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The heck with work, this could possibly be the biggest day in Caps history, we could get that last piece that brings us the Stanley Cup.. I am at work and all I am doing is going site to site looking to see what Caps are doing....I still say rugged D-Man and a goalie would be great.However I would be happy if we just get a D-Man...

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

@gonchpup

Ya I'm joking. But as much as everyone hates Avery, the Thomas incident was hilarious.

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

frankly, there's no point ever tracking trades for the Caps until like 2 pm of the day of. And pls, no more useless McPhee interviews. I can predict everything he will say before or after a deal gets done or falls thru. There's no surprises here. I can flowchart this process like a mofo

pre-trade:

"Well you know, we're playing really well and we see no real urgent need to do anything. Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make"

post-trade:

"Well our scouts really liked him and we thought you know, we'd make a deal to bolster our team in that respect. A lot of teams were pursuing him but we were fortunate enough to land him"

post-trade fallthru:

"Nothing out there really piqued our interest. We had a couple of talks but nothing really serious. We weren't willing to mortgage our future for a rental player. We're very comfortable with our current lineup heading into the postseason"

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

But seeing these two trades (Leopold and Ponikarovsky) and realizing that the Pens gave up literally nothing makes me think the Panthers and Leafs are part of the Pens' conspiracy: Make sure Crosby wins the Cup. Ridiculous.

GO CAPS!

Posted by: redrocker2 | March 3, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Poni's a good strong power forward player and I think the Pens made a dynamite move to get him. But at least they gave up Caputi who is like a young more aggressive version of Poni.

For us it would've taken Fehr and a Poti type (assuming any team really wants him)

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

No morning update - hopefully they are working on getting the scoop on huge trades...come on GMGM...this team will not beat the Pens- let's go!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

If GMGM thinks our current team can win a Cup he is crazy!! Pens just got Poni, not a great player but has size and in the playoffs rugged players over a 7 game series and wear a defense down.. We need a trade bottom line...

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

players still left who have some sex appeal

Jackman
McDonald
Hamhuis
Arnott
Souray
Moreau

anyone think of any others who are like black lace sexy ?

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Fro- That one went totally over my head. I didn't tie the 2 together to that incident a few years back. It was pretty funny, but I guess that any mention of Avery heading this way (joking or not) has a bit of an effect on me.

Posted by: gonchpup | March 3, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Eric Brewer..

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Volchenkov. He still hasn't signed the deal offered to him by the Sens.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

actually if it wasn't for other teams making trades, McPhee would never pick up that phone. The only thing (hopefully) motivating him is other teams getting better.

This postseason can go one of two ways - McPhee actually helps his team at the deadline and propels them past the 2nd round. Or he fails, and they get bounced early as underachievers and McPhee's lustre wears off and his job is in everyone's crosshairs.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

anyone think of any others who are like black lace sexy ?

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:23 AM |

Does Backstrom's flowing Swedish hair count?

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

are we the only ones working on trades today?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

@ fanohock1

I would love Volchenkov but I don't see the Sens trading him to us since we might end up playing them at some point in the playoffs. Would be a great move for Caps but don't see the Sens trading him..He is like a rental to them now.. A chance to win cup....

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Actually I'd take Volchenkov before anyone else on that list. He's a good defenseman and a monster prolific hitter.

Brewer I'd pass on. He's too passive for his size. And very inconsistent. One game he'll use his size, and then go 4 or 5 games where he's timid or lazy. Thats why the Blues are willing to deal him. No team ever really wants to give up a player with his size and skillset.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

are we the only ones working on trades today?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

yes thats correct Lyle. Actually we've been working on trades for the entire year. Luckily we have Chimera to show for it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I have to imagine trades will start coming in soon, I just hope the Caps are involved in at least one of them.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

The sens are in the market for a top six forward. Whenever a trade is made, unless it's a salary dump, both teams think they are getting what they need out of the deal. If they feel their need for a top 6 forward is greater than their need for a player that will walk at the end of the year for nothing, they'll pull the trigger.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Seidenberg to the Bruins

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Seidenberg to the Bruins

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

i have a feeling that about an hr after the deadline the Caps will release some trade info. Its actually a great marketing move. They get the fans all frustrated and then they pull something off last minute that takes the fans from the depths of despair to a euphoric high

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the Bruins have picked up D-man Dennis Seidenberg from Florida (per source of Pierre Lebrun).

Posted by: MReilly9 | March 3, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

jinx 1-2-3

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

seidenberg to bruins

all impact guys still available. plus, that may put boston out of hamhuis sweepstakes.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

anyone think of any others who are like black lace sexy ?

Niedermeyer

Koivu

Would love to see Koivu in a Caps uni before days end.

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Boston gets Seidenberg and Bartowski from Fla for Craig Weller, Byron Bitz and a 2nd round pick

Per Bob McKenzie

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Everyone is getting defensemen but us- WTF?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

@ fanohock1

I don't see the Caps trading a top six forward for Volchenkov, do you? I could see us maybe package some prospects/picks and maybe Fehr for him...No sure the Sens would bit on that..

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

funny ain't it - the Bruins already boast one of the toughest most defensive minded rosters in the NHL with Chara, Stuart, Boychuck etc, and they go out and get more defensive toughness with Seidenberg. Altho I'm surprised they dealt Byron Bitz. He's a good young player. Good trade for Florida. They picked up Seidenberg for free as a free agent and then flip him over for a high pick and Byron Bitz.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse


Just got this off of the ESPN live chat session...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4961260

Pierre LeBrun: FYI on the Ray Whitney front: hearing Washington and LA are the main two suitors

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Defense- 2nd line center- goalie- GMGM get on the phones!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

LeBrun said Whitney is likely either going to the Kings or the Caps, if he goes. (I paraphrased)

I find a possible Whitney acquisition intriguing and unexpected. If that happened I would assume another trade would be in the works, but who knows.

Does anyone know if Whitney plays on the PK?

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

The Bruins are obviously committed to going into the playoffs with a roster that will try to win low scoring games.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Pierre LeBrun: FYI on the Ray Whitney front: hearing Washington and LA are the main two suitors

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse


rofl! how perfect. Ray Whitney - yay. The answer to our prayers. How perfect that an old finesse forward would be what McPhee is targeting. Even if its just a rumor, makes perfect sense.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Less than 3 1/2 hours. I want to throw up.

I wonder what the price is for Ray Whitney? Carolina has climbed back into this thing.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Bruins have a horrible offense so low scoring games is the only way they can win....

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

@Capsbaby: Absolutely. With the season Flash has put together he is potentially a $3 mil a year guy next contract. If the Caps know this and he is considered a loss soon, we have enough scoring to fill the void made by the departure of Flash. Additionally, the plan is to make our goals against goal down by getting a D-man like Volchenkov so the loss of some goal scoring should be felt even less.

Basic answer to your question. Yes I would be willing to give up a top 6 forward, specifically Flash, for Volchenkov.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Ray Whitney is 38 yrs old folks. We just go get Nylander and Chelios while we're at it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"Nightmare situation becomes harsh reality - the Senators won't "rule out" trading their blueliner at the deadline. Don't see it happening unless the deal is jaw-dropping, but take it for what it's worth."

Per Travis Yost at hockeybuzz.

As he says- FWIW

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

there are reports that ottawa won't rule out trading volchenkov

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

cstanton1,

Bill Guerin was an old winger that the Pens picked up last year and it seemed to work out pretty well. I would take Ray Whitney!
Are you the type of person that would complain if we didn't make any trades but still complains when we make a trade for a guy like Whitney. He is a solid Vet.

Posted by: capsfan5252 | March 3, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

aaron ward to the ducks for pogge

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Aaron Ward to the Ducks for picks and Pogge

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Aaron Ward a Duck. That may mean some of their D may go. Niedermayer, Whitney, Wisneiwski?

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

TSN we lost out on Ray Whitney. This might mean that the follow up deal to trade a winger is also not in play

Posted by: samb99 | March 3, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I love Eklund - he prints whatever Mackenzie has already reported - what a DB!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

We just go get Nylander and Chelios while we're at it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:44 AM |

I heard that the judge ordered that Chelios must blow into the breathalyzer before every shift.

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

@ fanohock1

I totally agree with you about Flash, however I am not sure Flash alone would get this trade done. I am also not sure if Flash in considred a true top 6 forward. The Caps tried him a center and he has shown he can be a top 6 guy and play center...I agree with you I would love to see Volchenkov in a Caps uniform. I think we could package a deal for him, and I am all about trading prospect as well as draft picks for a cup...

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

cstanton1,

Bill Guerin was an old winger that the Pens picked up last year and it seemed to work out pretty well. I would take Ray Whitney!
Are you the type of person that would complain if we didn't make any trades but still complains when we make a trade for a guy like Whitney. He is a solid Vet.

Posted by: capsfan5252 | March 3, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

please, no comparison to picking up a Bill Guerin v a Ray Whitney. One's a warrior, one's a specific offensive role player who plays a finesse style.

Guerin offers so much more than the sum of his stats. Whitney offers some potential offense. Not exactly the kind of player who inspires his teammates to follow him into battle ala Guerin

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Seidenberg gone?

meh....

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Trade Nylander for Lebron James.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 3, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

Whitney is 37 and is still a very good player. Knuble is also 37 and he seems to be playing pretty well.

Whitney is a very good player and would improve the team, no doubt, even though it might not be in the desired area.

In addition, it is very possible he would be acquired to replace a winger who would be part of another trade (maybe Flash or Fehr) for a defenseman or center.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

We don't need Whitney anyway. Why the hell would we need scoring wingers?

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Also, Tim Thomas sucks. And he isn't a pending free agent.

I love the guy, but no...just no.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

do we know for a fact we lost out on Whitney ? it bothers me that we were even interested in him. I have to question the "vision" of the front office sometimes. its all bifocaled up

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

We don't need Whitney anyway. Why the hell would we need scoring wingers?

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 11:51 AM |

Now Ryan Whitney on the other hand. Except he's locked in for another 3 years at $4 mil per, I think. He's still young though too.

Posted by: Fro_ | March 3, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

In regards to the game, tonight. Theo will be in net. Varly will get the nod tomorrow.

Per Tarik, on twitter

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Aaron Ward to the Ducks....could my Neidermeyer dream come true? My dream package all along was Neidermeyer and Koivu....hope this is the beginnings of that!!

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

cstanton1

keep in mind whitney could be a placeholder for flash who gets traded for a top 4 D

Posted by: samb99 | March 3, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't think we need Ryan Whitney either. Although it's more in an area in which we need the upgrade, he's an offensive-minded d-man.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

i mean, if i had to pick the one position we absolutely don't need to bolster is a finesse scoring forward. Thats the one thing we have plenty of.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

My dream package all along was Neidermeyer and Koivu....hope this is the beginnings of that!!

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 11:55 AM

I'd be perfectly fine if these two were the only acquisitions made.

I have other choices as my #1 before both of them, but they would both be great pick-ups.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

frankly I'd like to dump BMo AND Flash and then play Laich at center along with a trade acquisition (at center) and Ethan Moreau as another wing.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand why Volchenkov is even being mentioned as trade material. The Sens are almost definitely headed to the playoffs this year, and Vochenkov is one of the best shot blackers around. I can't see them trading him, even if he leaves after this season.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

@Phil

What do you think the caps will be giving up to get Neidermeyer and Koivu? Cause Flash and some picks just ain't going to cut it. Probably need another roster player in there.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'd like more than just Niedermayer. I like what he brings with his great 2 way play but he still doesn't fulfill a general need for a more punishing defenseman. Even if that guy ends up being a lower tier player like an Andrew Alberts.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I thought Neids and Koivu weren't going anywhere? 3 hours left lets go caps!

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | March 3, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I thought Neids and Koivu weren't going anywhere? 3 hours left lets go caps!

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | March 3, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

@timmy

Well, Volchenkov is being reported as being on the block. So why not treat it as such?

@patrone

Nieds is the expensive one, but Koivu should be able to be had for a 2010 2nd + a 2011 pick.

Flash, prospect, pick for Nieds?

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

timmyv38: It all depends what Ottawa is looking for. If they can get a couple of players that are an upgrade in another position as well as a 1st or 2nd round pick for Volchenkov (IMO he'd worth a 1st with us picking so late next year) they might do it. As I said earlier I think Volchenkov would be a guy we'd lock up if we could this summer, he probably would not be a rental and he's only 28. The Sens on the other hand could lose him for absolutely nothing this summer.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 3, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I thought Neids and Koivu weren't going anywhere? 3 hours left lets go caps!

Posted by: Capsnskins1 | March 3, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

McPhee's just getting out of bed. He has plenty of time to get out his rolodex or call 411 for information on other GMs phone numbers. Plenty of time!

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

The question to ask after every trade is "Are the Caps better than before the trade?"

If the Caps acquired Whitney for draft picks and prospects and added Whitney to the roster then the 3rd line would be Whitney/(Flash or Morrison)/Fehr, with Chimera moving to the 4th line with Stecks and Brads with Gordon being scratched. The team defense and goaltending would remain the same. Therefore, IMO, that would be an overall plus.

The Stecks line would be the energy line, but that would mean teams in the playoffs would have to line up their 4th line against the Whitney line. I think that would definitely make the Caps better. That line would be another huge scoring threat.

Now I agree completely with all here that it would be more prudent to add a defenseman and/or a center. But that does not necessarily mean that adding a winger such as Whitney doesn't improve the team.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I'd like more than just Niedermayer. I like what he brings with his great 2 way play but he still doesn't fulfill a general need for a more punishing defenseman. Even if that guy ends up being a lower tier player like an Andrew Alberts.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:02 PM |

Nieds will clear the crease at least.

I'd like to gain a punishing bruiser back there as well, but Nieds would fill a lot of the voids, if not all.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

prepare to be disappointed, Caps fans. Pens get Ponikarovsky, Caps get squat. honestly, i expect no less from dumba** GMGM.

Posted by: doughless | March 3, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

patrone, They traded a goalie back to Carolina so I would assume they would be looking for one coming back...maybe Flash, Holtby, (input propect or two, maybe Alzner, and a pick)....not sure if that would get it done but it wouldn't be selling the farm and would give us the two pieces we need. OK, start berating and telling me that is way too much!!

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

there's still time to a combo of Flash, Alzner, BGordon, draft pick for Souray and Moreau. I just don't want the Flyers to get either of those 2. Hopefully they're just focused on their goalie situation, and they can have Hamhuis

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Now I agree completely with all here that it would be more prudent to add a defenseman and/or a center. But that does not necessarily mean that adding a winger such as Whitney doesn't improve the team.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse


the way i look at it, McPhee is more likely to rest on his laurels and not make any add'l moves if he gets Whitney. If we swapped out Flash for Whitney I would be happy with that. But it just seems like McPhee has a limited # of moves he likes to make and if we got Whitney that would reduce our chances of McPhee making any other add'l significant moves.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Anaheim is not going to trade Niedermayer.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

This feels like some sort of bizarro version of Christmas, where Santa might give you what you desperately want...but will take a couple of toys from your room in payment while he's at it. Then again, he may give you last season's toy and take your favorite stuffed animal, leaving you heartbrokenly reaching for the absent Binky every night.

All I have to say is, I hope Santa (er...GMGM) comes through.

Posted by: SuzieInMD | March 3, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

That alot of Souray and Mareau..GMGM wouldnt do it...


thoughts on Wisniewski to Caps....

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

by the way, did anyone ever read anywhere that Barrett Jackman was actually available? I just kinda got on that bandwagon when I saw his name get thrown out there along w/the fact the Blues will miss the playoffs. But has he actually been on the trade bubble ?

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Cstanton, I know that salary cap/roster stuff isn't your cup of tea, but I will advise you that acquiring Souray would absolutely cripple the salary situation for the next few years.

And with that said, there is no way in hell the Flyers acquire him unless they move significant salary back.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

You guys are missing my point with Volchenkov. Why would the Sens trade him, when they are in position for a great playoff run and he is on their top defensive pair, a pairing which is an effective shutdown pair? It would pretty much be giving up any chance at a playoff run for them. They might give him up for the right price, but I don't think it's a price that it would benefit the Caps to pay.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

by the way, did anyone ever read anywhere that Barrett Jackman was actually available? I just kinda got on that bandwagon when I saw his name get thrown out there along w/the fact the Blues will miss the playoffs. But has he actually been on the trade bubble ?

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:11 PM |

He was discussed a little bit like a month ago. Haven't really seen his name again except in ESPNinsider...which is just bs.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Darren Dreger:

"Canes are working on moving at least one more player. With Ward deal and another salary expected to go, it's likely Ray Whitney stays in Car"

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

You guys are missing my point with Volchenkov. Why would the Sens trade him, when they are in position for a great playoff run and he is on their top defensive pair, a pairing which is an effective shutdown pair? It would pretty much be giving up any chance at a playoff run for them. They might give him up for the right price, but I don't think it's a price that it would benefit the Caps to pay.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:11 PM |


Well that's up to BMurray then. If he wants to hold onto him and get nothing after the season because he thinks he will help with a Cup, then he can do that.

If he feels like Anton is not going to re-sign anyway, BMurray might just have to show his hand so he at least gets something back.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Caps may be able to get Mike Dunmire for cheap...he is a solid second line center...

Posted by: SoaringCaps | March 3, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

That alot of Souray and Mareau..GMGM wouldnt do it...

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i don't think thats a lot for those 2. Souray is one of the more attractive prizes out there so his trade value is probably high enough to get back 2 young players (i.e. Alzner/pick or Alzner/Flash). BGordo and a pick may be enough to get Moreau.

Frankly, that still may not be enough.

I'll definitely be happy if we get Wisniewski. I thought Chicago was crazy to trade him. He's a tough two way player who competes his tail off. Can play the PP, is a big open ice hitter, will fight. Whats not to like about that kid.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

cstanton, I think Jackman has been mentioned a lot because teams are looking for defensemen. The Blues are in a position right now where it might be difficult for them to make the playoffs, so they might make a move for the right price. However, Jackman would have to waive his NTC first.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

First off - let's keep our fingers crossed, these trades are always a crapshoot. The trade for Federov, Huet was brilliant - got us into one incredible playoff series, and won another.

Second - I think people very much missing Wilbon's point - he's trying to prevent catastrophe, not bash Ovie. (The whole "if he was black" thing was an internal digression he probably could've skipped to keep his readers on point. I think, in that sense, a mistake.)

These journalists know things we don't - they have sources most of us (but sonyask) do not have. No human being is immune to human frailty - and one thing all of us have needed is someone to say, basically, "bad dog, no!". The impression I'm getting is that no such person is there for Ovie.

At least some people in the press knew about the "shoe incident" with Arenas - that info might never have come out before his catastrophically stupid action. If a similar dynamic is showing up with #8, he does need someone to be a good guide. The article seems directed at the Caps, or at Ovie's peeps, not at us.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | March 3, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Also Moreay is a -13 on season to go with is 13 pts....Souray for his career is a -52

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

McPhee better be talking with Anaheim. Whitney hurts them resigning Bobby Ryan. Maybe you can get him for Poti and a pick. Poti only has one more year, Whitney has 3.

You may be able to get Whitney and Koivu, and not have to trade Flash to do it.

Whitney and Koivu for Poti, Holtby, Morrison and a 2nd.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

good to know about the salary implications RPhil. I don't want Souray going to the Rangers, Penguins or Flyers. I'll throw up in my mouth if that happens.


hey maybe we'll trade Semin in a blockbuster! lol

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure the source of the Jackman rumors came from ESPNinsider.

Which is worse than Eklund.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Veteran blueliners are moving, just none to DC, hmm....

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | March 3, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Whitney and Koivu for Poti, Holtby, Morrison and a 2nd.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:16 PM |

Need more salary going out if we want Whitney. Doesn't he make 4 mil-ish?

Poti going out is definetely a plus, but it is kinda moot if Whitney comes in. Though, Whitney > Poti, no doubt.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

Wisniewski would be perfect fit for the Caps, and ANA needs to clear space, they Bobby Ryan to sign...I would be more happy with Wisniewski than Souray... He is young and good skilled player and probably could be had a good price since ANA needs to move some money..

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

And honestly, I'd take Wishneivski(sp?) before Whitney.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Also Moreay is a -13 on season to go with is 13 pts....Souray for his career is a -52

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse


i wouldnt pay that any attention. Moreau over his career has been a really strong defensive grinding winger who still has some offensive ability (the same way you see guys like Steckel and Brads crash the offensive zone and do their thing).

Souray for sure isn't the Nicklas Listrom type. He's there for his leadership, his booming shot from the point, his toughness on D. But he's not a Norris Trophy defensive defenseman type. But he's also not a liability and pair him with the right type of player and he can be very effective. Its funny though, he started his career off as a tough guy defensive defenseman and then suddenly got tagged as an offensive defenseman because he discovered his shot from the point. Labels, tags man

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

If Anton Volchenkov were to be moved at the deadline, the only realistic home for him would be Washington. The Capitals have pieces that the Senators would want in return, and Washington desperately needs a stay-at-home defenseman. Volchenkov still could resign at the end of all this, but a Capitals/Senators swap isn't completely out of the question.
Source: Travis Yost

Take it for what it is...a rumor.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

hockeybuzz has the only place that ottawa would trade volchenkov would be washington

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Latest update from ESPN:

The Anaheim Ducks aren't sellers, TSN's Bob McKenzie tweets, and they backed up their words by refusing to trade Scott Niedermayer even though teams showed interest.

This also means Saku Koivu and Teemu Selanne are likely staying put.

Posted by: JDintheSD | March 3, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Everything I read about Souray now indicates he has lost his touch. Doesn't really hit like he used to, gets out of position more than usual.

Maybe he needs to get out of Siberia though.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I've only seen 6 or 7 veteran dmen move so far. It's between 12 and 3 that a lot of the deals always get done though. I trust McPhee, he has made a number of good deals in the last few years, and I think he will do so again - if he can find a deal worth making.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

sorry, but trading Holtby is a VERY bad idea.

Posted by: doughless | March 3, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

frankly, there's no point ever tracking trades for the Caps until like 2 pm of the day of. And pls, no more useless McPhee interviews. I can predict everything he will say before or after a deal gets done or falls thru. There's no surprises here. I can flowchart this process like a mofo

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 11:17 AM |

@cstanton1:


Good post, I must admit

Posted by: Rhino40 | March 3, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

TFP says OTT-Volchenkov contract talks are going in the "right direction"

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

the main reason I like Moreau/Souray is it adds an element to our team that is sorely lacking and can't be quantified via stats easily. Both players bring that playoff type grit you need and a locker room presence. That can't be overstated enough. You need as many guys like that as you can get. It makes the entire team play better, play bigger. And hopefully it will minimize those infamous Caps "lapses" that we've seen too often. Can't afford those in a playoff gm

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

We have Scott Walker

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I'd take Wisniewski over Souray too.

IMO, Alzner and Flash is way too much to give up for Souray. Souray's contract would create large problems for the Caps in the upcoming years. He is a good player but I don't think he is worth how much he is making and he has a few years left on his contract.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

TFP says OTT-Volchenkov contract talks are going in the "right direction"

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:24 PM |

The right direction for Washington!

*crosses fingers

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Bob McKenzie tweets "Hearing Washington is closing in on Scott Walker. Details to follow."

Posted by: larryn703 | March 3, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Following article just went up on website


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/

Only Viable Landing Spot for Volchenkov is Washington
If Anton Volchenkov were to be moved at the deadline, the only realistic home for him would be Washington. The Capitals have pieces that the Senators would want in return, and Washington desperately needs a stay-at-home defenseman. Volchenkov still could resign at the end of all this, but a Capitals/Senators swap isn't completely out of the question.
Source: Travis Yost

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker!?!?

Posted by: docjohnson | March 3, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Walker is officially a Capital

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

We just got Scott Walker

Posted by: JDintheSD | March 3, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse


http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4961260

Pierre LeBrun: Scott Walker has been dealt to the Washington Capitals, a team source just told me

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

scott walker?

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker? Probably for a pick.

Good depth move, but I'm not seeing the upgrade?

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Pierre LeBrun: Scott Walker has been dealt to the Washington Capitals, a team source just told me

This from espn blog.

Posted by: redrocker2 | March 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

didn't see that one coming

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker?????? WTF???????????????? GMGM is a bonehead.

Posted by: doughless | March 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

GMGM only gave up a 7th round draft pick, according to ESPN

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

http://twitter.com/TSNBobmckenzie

He says Walker to us is done, but no details.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

caps get scott walker from carolina!

Posted by: SkinsFanInNYC | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Caps get Scott Walker from Carolina

Posted by: cptjack70 | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm telling you, Scott Walker is gonna put the Caps over the top!! End sarcasm...

Posted by: JDintheSD | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

AMAZING
Scott Walker for a 7th round pick!! That is great value!!

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Walker is great in the playoffs at least.

Good depth move..but I want to see more.

(I'd prefer Cullen, who was dealt to the Sens, honestly)

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

MORONIC

Posted by: doughless | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

for a 7th round pick.

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

uh...scott walker isn't very good.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Walker is for a 7th round draft pick...hmmm the beginnings of something bigger I hope...

Posted by: JDintheSD | March 3, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

why the hell would we want scott walker?

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Really? for a 7th rounder?

Wow...a great depth move by GMGM..if not the move we all want to see.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Has to be another winger on his way out the door in another deal--like BGordon

Posted by: docjohnson | March 3, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Could be that they are moving another forward or two to get a d-man?

Posted by: digital_will | March 3, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The got Walker for a 7th round pick.

I'm fine with adding a depth guy in case there are injuries especially since the rosters can be expanded now. It basically cost the Caps nothing.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Guys from TSN.CA/NHL NETWORK like the pick-up.

Posted by: cptjack70 | March 3, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm seeing info saying Wlker was acquired for a 7th round pick. I can live with that, even if he doesn't play much for us.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Caps acquired Scott Walker

Posted by: topshelf | March 3, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

GMGM must have felt left out...Scott Walker belongs in our AHL system at best.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

It's just a depth move, guys. Walker is also great to have in the playoffs.

No use in getting sarcastic or anything. I would hope 1 or 2 more moves to come.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Guys from TSN.CA/NHL NETWORK like the pick-up.

Posted by: cptjack70 | March 3, 2010 12:30 PM |

Guys from TSN.CA/NHL Network are smarter than the people who post here. :)

It's a great depth move. Anyone who tries to look more into it, will be sorely disappointed.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse


Why Caps picked up Walker

Pierre LeBrun: Mike, veteran leadership, gutsy player. Caps have lots of skill but continue to look for more moxy. Knuble was a good addition last year. So is this
Wednesday March 3, 2010 12:29 Pierre LeBrun

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker?

Posted by: eorr53 | March 3, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Just saw on the Buzz
Walker to Caps - ??? back to Carolina

Posted by: Iceman10 | March 3, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Where does walker even play in our top 4 lines? Does this mean Gordon is out? Didn't give up much, but I do not get this move.

Arguably, he makes our team worse.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I can see the value in Walker - experienced grit player. And for a 7th round pick - that's a steal.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

I agree, it is a great depth move. Just because it is a minor deal doesn't mean it isn't good. The Caps added some veteran forward depth for a 7th round pick. There is no reason not to do that.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Walker helps ease the veteran leadersh8ip gap that has existed since Clark was traded.

Posted by: kolbkl | March 3, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

rumor:

Peter Mueller and Kevin Porter to Colorado for Wojtek Wolski

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Where does walker even play in our top 4 lines? Does this mean Gordon is out? Didn't give up much, but I do not get this move.

Arguably, he makes our team worse.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:32 PM

Just curious, how could trading a 7th round pick for a player possibly make a team worse? Walker has playoff experience, and I could see him being a 4th liner with Steckel and Bradley.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

2009-10 CAR 33 3 2 5 -4 23 1 0 0 0 0 50 .060 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: kkd76 | March 3, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

yeah, we need more guys that sucker punch the players on the opposing teams.

Posted by: doughless | March 3, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Where does walker even play in our top 4 lines? Does this mean Gordon is out? Didn't give up much, but I do not get this move.

Arguably, he makes our team worse.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:32 PM |

Do you really not understand the concept of having depth/options in the playoffs?

Seriously people..quit over-analyzing the trade. It was for a freakin 7th rounder.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Boston gets Seidenberg and Bartowski from Fla for Craig Weller, Byron Bitz and a 2nd round pick

Per Bob McKenzie

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 11:36 AM

So much for us acquiring Bitz...would have been cool for us to be able to ice a "Knubles 'n' Bitz" line...

4thelulz

Posted by: Rhino40 | March 3, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

@ RedLitYogi

I don't think Wilbon is trying to save Ovi. He's just trying to get the same exposure as Mike Wise. Saying that Ovi is so far behind Sid he could see him with a telescope is baiting. So Caps fans, stop feeding that troll Wilbon.

Posted by: ablake70 | March 3, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Walkers page on TSN:

Current Status: Shoulder surgery, Sidelined indefinitely (IR)

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?hubname=nhl&id=740

Anyone know anything about this?

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | March 3, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if Walker plays on the PK and if so, how good is he on the PK?

Even if he is the 13th forward, this is a good move. Remember, injuries often occur in the playoffs and having depth is important.

Posted by: sgm3 | March 3, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

One career playoff goal?

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

We traded a freakin 7th ROUNDER! A 7th ROUNDER!

Who the hell cares who we got back. It's just a depth move. You guys are beyond ridiculous.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Vancouver gets Yan Statsny

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

F Scott walker from the Hurricanes for a Washington 7th pick.

Posted by: FusilliJerry1 | March 3, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I am surprised not too many people are alluding to the fact that Walker can fight

Posted by: Gr8_8 | March 3, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

@wtf

Welp..I didn't know he was injured. That sucks.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Walker will be a nice intimidating scratch on a nightly basis.

solid move

Posted by: SkinsFanInNYC | March 3, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Blues get Cedric Labrie

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

2009-10 CAR 33 3 2 5 -4 23 1 0 0 0 0 50 .060 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: kkd76 | March 3, 2010 12:35 PM |

Only -4 on Carolina?

Not bad at all, I'd say.

If you are expecting Walker to score goals...welll, funny.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

new post...

Posted by: PhilR | March 3, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The concern is that this is all we'll see. A guy who isn't part of the puzzle.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

a 7th round for a guy who can play on the third line. I like it. A 7th round is worth about as much as a roll of toilet paper.

Posted by: caps512 | March 3, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

You have to be kidding me a washed up forward. Scott Walker? I think he needs a walker on the ice. We need D so we add a never has been RF. I hope this isn't GMGMs only move.

Posted by: capsfan05 | March 3, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

wtf_e_fehr, that is out of date - he played last night.

rhino 40, that "Knuble'n'Bitz" line was great... thanks for the laugh.

When it comes to Walker, here's the deal - we traded a useless pick for a player who, at worst, will be a backup in case anyone gets injured. What's to complain about?

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Walker was injured but is available to play after March 3rd....People looking too much into this trade...Would you rather have a 7th round draft pick going into playoffs this year or Scott Walker...95% would pick Scott Walker and the other 5% should stand up and punch themselves in the nuts...

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

@wtf & @richmondphil

Please see the injury you're eluding too happened in 2001. I'm sure he's over it by now!

Posted by: jarresm | March 3, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/


Fehr on the move?
The addition of Scott Walker may very likely spell the end of Eric Fehr's time in Washington as George McPhee now has a surplus of RW's.

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

jarresm, Walker was injured in January - you must not be looking at the right thing.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker to Caps

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we just picked up Scott Walker from Carolina for a 7th round pick. Adding a little grit never hurt!

Posted by: sca187 | March 3, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I was just looking at Walker's NHL page, and his current health isn't an issue - he was +1, 12:46 TOI. That is the most he had since the end of October.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad the Caps picked up someone with an easily pronounced name.

Posted by: uncatim | March 3, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Surprised the Doofus Brigade hasn't shown up..

"I wish they had traded {insert bashed player here) for Walker!"

Geez...

Posted by: jdhoover | March 3, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Fehr on the move?
The addition of Scott Walker may very likely spell the end of Eric Fehr's time in Washington as George McPhee now has a surplus of RW's.


Posted by: CapsBaby

Yes, this would make sense. Anton V. really can be had.

Fehr, Pothier and a 2nd. Throw in a prospect if you need to.

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Everything I read about Souray now indicates he has lost his touch. Doesn't really hit like he used to, gets out of position more than usual.

Maybe he needs to get out of Siberia though.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

There's probably some truth to that but he's still more of a presence on D than this team has seen since Tinordi. And I bet he's got enough left in his tank to get really excited about being back in the playoffs.

And he's also one of the better brawlers. When he gets ticked off, he's a monster. I don't think he's lost a fight in 10 years. Even though fighting per se isn't part of the playoffs as much as it used to be Souray has a real reputation for not being messed with. That kind of rep comes into play in numerous ways - forwards are less apt to try and take an extra shot at a rebound because they know they'll get crushed, many forwards don't forecheck him as hard as they'd do like a Schultz type because Souray has a tendency to snap a little. Etc

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

It's like getting a pair of socks for X-mas when you were hoping for a new bike...

Posted by: kkd76 | March 3, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I like it...Walker for nothing. Grinder with WINNING/STANLEY CUP EXPERIENCE..

Posted by: cptjack70 | March 3, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

The trade is fine for a 7th pick however I want D. Not a F.

Posted by: capsfan05 | March 3, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Walker has 22 seconds of PK time on the entire season so no he does not kill penalities. This move makes no sense to me right now.

Posted by: icehammer97 | March 3, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I think bringing in Scott Walker why not a flashy player is great for this team. He wont get us the goal or pts but he will mix it up come playoff time...Great 3rd line or 4th line guy...We have plenty of scoring, and he will fit in nice with this team..LEADERSHIP!!!

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

i love scott walker and have been watching him since he started his career as a 4th line center in Vanc

don't know what he has left to give but I did secretly hope that he was on GM's radar. He's a great character player and pound for pound as tough as they come.

like i said, don't know what he has left in the tank. I just hope Boudreau doesn't scratch him for more offense in the playoffs. His game is simple, he plays a chippy style of hockey and is always around that net. He's also a real locker room presence. I'd say he's a tougher version of Chris Clark. Hopefully he pots a timely goal here and there to keep his spot in the lineup b/c I know Bruce is always looking for more offense. I'll take him in lieu of Moreau.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

WOW you people need to think ouside of the box with this Scott Walker trade.... Its just one piece, it was for a 7th round pick....Wow some of you people have no clue...

Posted by: CapsBaby | March 3, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I like the Walker move because it adds depth without giving up anything. Brads will now have some help in the grit area as well. I think GMGM is only warming up. It's early. I cannot criticize this trade and can't think of why anyone would.

Posted by: sca187 | March 3, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Blues get Cedric Labrie

Posted by: elicea | March 3, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

no way, that kid is the knockout king in the minors right now. He's just a fearsome fighter. I wonder why the Blues need more toughness with already having DJ King and Cam

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

nothing wrong with the Walker trade. Good move.

And he's one of those intangible pieces to any successful team because he motivates others to play hard. And he's a leader. So when you go into a hostile arena, the young guys look to the Scott Walker types to lead them. I hope he's healthy.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

does getting Walker now push Laing out of the lineup even though he plays a different wing position? I can't imagine Gordo getting scratched.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Who is Walker? Is he any good...cause we just got him

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Laing is already pretty much out of the lineup, unless there are injuries. Personally, I'd rather see him playing than Gordon.

With Walker, it might be the case that a simple veteran presence in the locker room could be the main thing he contributes. Think about how having Federov helped so much - the Caps are a very young team, and having a tough veteran like Walker could help, even if he doesn't really play.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker 70 hits this year low PIM's I'll take him for a 7th rounder!

Posted by: jmcale57 | March 3, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Who is Walker? Is he any good...cause we just got him

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

well he's had more career fights than the entire caps roster put together and he's also been a 20 goal scorer three times. Unfortunately I'm sure he's just a rental. I'm guessing he'll be UFA after this year.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Just curious... why would the Canes give someone up for a 7th round pick anyways? I assume with Walker, it's not a cap room issue. Just trying to figure out the Canes' logic.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

its pretty dumb to pencil in Laing at the start of the year, have him gain some chemistry again with Steckel and Brads, and then reinsert Gordon. Gordon just vanishes in tough playoff games, he's utterly useless. Just skates around from end to end without accomplishing much.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

sorry...that post came in late.

Posted by: capscoach | March 3, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Just curious... why would the Canes give someone up for a 7th round pick anyways? I assume with Walker, it's not a cap room issue. Just trying to figure out the Canes' logic.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

they gave him a chance to win the Cup. Thats why they dealt him and why they have so much respect for him to take a 7th rounder in return which they know is a fairly useless pick. Scott Walker is one of the most respected veteran players in the game and he's high on the Canes chart for respect.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

LeBrun reporting Canes getting traction on Corvo--hope from the Caps!

Posted by: docjohnson | March 3, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Here's Walker beating the snot out of a much bigger Andrew Alberts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjHKZgfy9sY&feature=player_embedded

at least we're not at the bottom of the league in toughness now, maybe we're like 3rd from the bottom now.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

cstanton, thank you - that actually makes sense. Looking at his past stats, from the last couple years, I could see him getting a few goals, and I think he would be an upgrade to the 4th line, if put in place of Gordon. Steckel, Brads, and Walker - that could be tough to face.

Just an interesting side note with Walker - he actually started as a Dman. Could maybe fill in there if there was injuries, although I wouldn't expect it.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

If a #2 center doesn't work out, I am hoping that the Olympic break re-charges BMo. I suspect he was getting a bit worn down, explaining the decline in his production. If he can play like he did earlier, then the need for a #2 center is greatly diminished. Of course, the need for someone who is great at the PK would remain.

Posted by: zmega | March 3, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

LeBrun reporting Canes getting traction on Corvo--hope from the Caps!

Posted by: docjohnson | March 3, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse


pleas...im getting sick

Joe Corvo SUCKS

He's an offensive defenseman who struggles in his own end. Don't we have enuff of that?

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Just an interesting side note with Walker - he actually started as a Dman. Could maybe fill in there if there was injuries, although I wouldn't expect it.

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i can honestly say, I have never seen Scott Walker ever play a shift on defense. From what I recall, he started as a 4th line center on Vancouver's team and got into a ton of fights along with his linemates. A lotta line brawls involving Walker back in the day when Van would play Cgy or Edm

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 3, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

cstanton, it could be the article I read was mistaken - it said prior to the 1996-97 season he played defense. If so, it means he would only have played one NHL season at that position - and it only would have been 11 games.

Posted by: timmyv38 | March 3, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

While I like the nature of the move, as it adds a needed dimension, it seems like a lot of salary to pickup without making more moves.

Posted by: jdhoover | March 3, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

he did play defense. he was asked on tsn if Mcphee had anything to do with him moving to forward back in his assistant gm days in Vancouver.

Posted by: shawnshupe | March 3, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Eric Belanger?

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

For a second? Fail!

Posted by: barney56 | March 3, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

With all of the calls for a "stay at home" defenseman, isn't that at least partly a function of the coach's system versus the player's skills?

Posted by: tim-n-VA | March 3, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Defense.... Period. Not at all cost, but certainly as a priority. I don't care what we did thus far this season. There have been far too many games in which we've given up 3 or more goals. The Caps have the premier scoring team in the NHL. Imagine what they could do if they didn't give up so many goals. And by the way, winning face-offs isn't the loan task of a Centermen. Every player on the ice, including defensemen, need to be in the right place acquire the puck and be able to do the right thing with it - especially in the defensive zone. During the Canada-USA gold medal game. The US won a defensive zone face off in the first period and turned it into a goal for Canada by mishandling the puck. Instead of keep the puck along the boards, an attempt was made to clear it to a defensive partner out in front of the crease. One mistake by a defensemen, and even a face-off win becomes meaningless.

Posted by: hsparks3 | March 3, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

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