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Posted at 3:00 PM ET, 01/25/2011

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By Washington Post editors  | January 25, 2011; 3:00 PM ET
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I'm not sure if anybody here caught it or not but last night during the game Billy Jaffe said he was talking to GMGM about the team. He talks about how the conversation was then dropped this bomb,"George said he's happy with his D as long as Poti is healthy come playoff time"!

I'm sure that made many of you very happy and you slept very well knowing that!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 25, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The real tragedy is all the other players the Caps passed on in that draft as well.

Guys picked after Fehr in the first round of '03.

Pick 19 - Ryan Getzlaf
Pick 20 - Brent Burns
Pick 23 - Ryan Kesler
Pick 24 - Mike Richards
Pick 28 - Corey Perry

Guys picked in the 2nd round of '03.

Pick 45 - Patrice Bergeron
Pick 47 - Matt Carle
Pick 49 - Shea Weber
Pick 62 - David Backes
Pick 64 - Jimmy Howard

Posted by: cainoo7x | January 25, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Looking back like that really does nothing. Once you get past the first 10 or so picks in the draft it is a guessing game. Sometimes you get lucky (see Detroit) sometimes you don't (see Flames giving up their 1st and 2 2nds for a 1st and a 2nd so they could draft Trevor Kidd who was ranked #1 while Martin Brodeur was ranked 3rd). The Caps taking Fehr wasn't even the dumbest move looking back today of that draft. How about the Oilers trading away their 1st (Zach Parise) for a first (Marc-Antoine Pouliot) and the last 2nd (Jean-Francois Jacques)? You think Oilers fans don't talk about that all the time.

Posted by: icehammer97 | January 25, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse


I'm not trying to assign blame or anything, just pointing out how much different the fortunes of the current team might be if they had "hit" in the 2003 draft, especially when you consider the Caps still don't have an NHL viable 2C.

Posted by: cainoo7x | January 25, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

agreed with icehammer. If anything, team has had great success lately, getting Carlson at 23rd (?) pick, Eakin in 3rd round, Kuznetsov at 25. Three of the top five players in the WJC were Caps property and none of them drafter higher than 25th.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | January 25, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

@cainoo7x >

If Kuznetsov is as good as he looks like he is (dominant performances at WJC against top junior talent in the world) then in two years we DO have a viable 2C: his name is Nick Backstrom.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | January 25, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

@cainoo7x I understand but at the same time if we draft Getzlaf in 2003 maybe we decide we don't need Backstrom and we have the switch at #1 center still don't have a #2 center. Going back and looking at a single pick in a vaccuum does nothing other then just create arguments. I could always say imagine we didn't take Olie in 1989 and we take Lidstrom or Adam Foote instead then in 1990 we wouldn't have thought we already had our goalie and we could have drafted Broudeur instead of John Slaney. Don't get me wrong I like Olie but we would have multiple Cups if that had happened but it means nothing now because it didn't and going back like that and looking at what could have been acomplishes nothing.

Posted by: icehammer97 | January 25, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse


Thank goodness for Carlson because you'll remember that the Caps first, first round pick in that draft has basically quit hockey.

Posted by: cainoo7x | January 25, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Also just as dumb if not dumber then us taking Ferh in 2003 was the Rangers taking the only player in the first round not to have played a game in the NHL yet at #12.

Posted by: icehammer97 | January 25, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse


I never said anyone or anything was dumb about taking Fehr in the 2003 draft. However, I will stand by my assertion that the 2003 draft class was stronger than most and that it is unfortunate that the Caps have next to nothing to show for it.

Posted by: cainoo7x | January 25, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Look guys the hardest professional sport to scout and draft in is the NHL hands down. I don't subscribe to the majority of critisizm of GMGM's drafting b/c you can say that about every single GM in the NHL. I don't have the time (as I've done it before) but trust me, every single GM makes mistakes and some find a needle in a haystack. You just flat don't know how a 17 or 18yr old KID is going to develope.

People here are just too tunnel visioned into the Caps but trust me every GM has made mistakes drafting. Anybody remember Pat Falloon being #1 overall? Any guesses who was taken after him? You just have to look at the big picture. Instead of saying, hey the Caps took player "x" at the 25th pick instead of player "y" so GMGM sucks. Well then doesn't that mean that the previous 24 GM's that didn't draft player "y" are idiots then too? That's where I'm coming from.

There's a reason why GMGM was voted (by his peers) as executive of the year. It wasn't because he's terrible at building a contending team.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 25, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't think cainoo7x was criticizing GMGM for the pick, but just stating how if the Caps selected on of the 5 or 6 players selected immeditaely after Fehr instead of selecting Fehr himself, how much different this team could be right now, and for the better.

However, as someone else pointed out. If they drafted Richards or Getzlaf in Fehr's spot, who knows where they draft in many of the future drafts.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 25, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey pokerface1208,
Wasn't Lindros first in that draft? I thought Falloon was #2... maybe I'm wrong...

Posted by: MinorTthreat | January 26, 2011 9:20 AM | Report abuse

...I think Foppa was drafted after Falloon, so I see your point though :)

Posted by: MinorTthreat | January 26, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

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