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Poti Out With Groin Pull (Updated)

Defenseman Tom Poti left tonight's game after the first period with a groin pull. GM George McPhee said it's too soon to know how much time Poti will miss, but they wanted to get him out of the game rather than have him make the injury worse.

Sergei Fedorov moved from center to defense to make up for Poti's absence.

The Caps are already without Viktor Kozlov (left knee) and Donald Brashear (hand).

Some quick notes since I've got to drive all the way home in a few minutes:

*Ovechkin and Sidney Crosby crossed paths at the end of the game and exchanged words.Ovechkin, however, didn't want to share what was said.

"Dinner? We weren't talking about dinner. Nothing. What can I say? It's just a hockey game," said Ovechkin, who didn't have a point for the second straight game.

*Eric Fehr had a pair of assists in his season debut, including one on Boyd Gordon's winner.

*If it wasn't obvious before, it should be now: there's no love lost between these teams, particularly between Ovechkin and Crosby and Evgeni Malkin. Ovechkin seemed to spend the first 40 minutes trying to line up Malkin for a big hit.

Malkin, meantime, was whistled for boarding Alexander Semin when he lowered his shoulder and drove Semin's head into the dasher in the second.

"It happens every night to somebody," Coach Bruce Boudreau said of Malkin's hit. "It's a dangerous game. It was a shift where we finally started to get a little excitement going with our team and the crowd was getting into it, so I just think Malkin got a little over excited."

*Boudreau on the third period turnaround (the Caps outshot the Pens 21-6):

"We shot the puck," he said. "We were trying to be so cute. In the first period, Sasha gets the puck. If he would have taken a one-timer he would have beat Fleury. But he lost control of it. I think Nicklas Backstrom was trying to be cute on the power play."

"All of us were trying to skate east-west against a team that loves it when you try to go east-west. They eat you up like they did to Philadelphia. If you skate east-west in the netural zone instead of north-south, they are going to hurt you. So we did it all differently at the end of the second period."

Ovechkin said the third period was their best of the season. "We just have to play the same all the time," he said.

*Tomas Fleischmann got the hardhat tonight after posting a goal and an assist.

*Boudreau on Matt Bradley coming back after getting hammered by Paul Bissonnette in a second period fight:

"When you don't get the best of a fight, and you come back and you're blocking shots and playing like nothing happened," he said. "With stitches and a cut nose, we really commended him to have the courage to come back. When guys see that, how can you not give it your all?

Ovechkin said the Bradley fight turned the momentum in the Caps' favor.

"Matt Bradley did a great job," Ovechkin said. "Our team wake up after that fight."

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  October 16, 2008; 10:31 PM ET
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impressive win. malkins a pos.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 16, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

if brashear cant go and poti cant go on sat, who do you call up?

Posted by: jay | October 16, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love Ovie telling the crybaby to shut the F up!

Posted by: eric | October 16, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

ovechkin is invisible. when is he going to show up and start playing hockey. his head is not in the game.

oh, and backstrom.... uh is he still in sweden?

Posted by: ovechkin is invisible | October 16, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I disagree: OV was not invisible. I mean, did you see him hitting out there? Just because he didn't score doesn't mean he didn't have a good game.

Backstrom is off to a slow start. He's forcing passes big time. I'm not worried though. He'll come around.

Posted by: CapsFanInHollywood | October 16, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

'Gotta love Ovie telling the crybaby to shut the F up!"

linck, pleze¿ ;\

Posted by: Kurrt | October 16, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

hey truth be told.
stop your whiiiiiiiiiiiiining.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 16, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

ovechkin is invisible? Were we watching different games? Ovi was doing Brashear's job out there! He was all over the frickin' ice. Backstrom-Ovechkin pairing has a problem - they don't seem to have the same spark they had last year. Maybe all Boudreau has to do is scramble the lines a bit. But then, Backstrom supposedly started slow last year, too. Don't sweat it - Ovi's drawing all the D, which opens up Semin/Nyls/Flash, and that's making all the difference.

Ack on Poti. Not good. Hopefully Brash can play Saturday. If not, call up Bourque and leave Feds on the blueline - he is working absolute magic out there.

Posted by: this space for rent | October 16, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Capitals rally to win + DC United rally to win = Really good night

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | October 16, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't really call Ovi invisible. He was out there hitting people and solid fore checking. He's not scoring, but he's doing the little things that make a difference.

I think Ovi will agree with me, he'll trade 65 goals for less in exchange for a wins.

Just think of when Ovi turns it on, WOW they'll turn it on.


Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 16, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who is scared to death of the goaltending being shown by Theodore? He just looks completely tentative out there. At some point it's got to start impacting the defense.

Posted by: sg62 | October 16, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I had no clue DCU came back to win, they were down 1-0 last I saw. WOW. Great day for DC sports (hey the Nats/Wiz/Skins didn't lose we'll take it).

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 16, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin wasn't doing Brashear's job, he was doing Ovechkin. Ovechkin had over 250 hits last year, he was top 10.

Posted by: JSchon | October 16, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Feds is worth more than $4 mil. He needs to ask for the raise. Ovechkin should wear C, he was a true leader tonight. I think Clark would be proud to to give C to him.

Chicken Pens are done by submission tonight.

Posted by: Dave King | October 16, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I need to stop thinking in moments. The thing about Ovi, and what makes him great, is that he's a complete player. He can do everything, and will do whatever is needed. Tonight, and for the last several games, we needed a hitter, and a hitter was what Ovi became. He was sandpaper, because sandpaper was what we needed out there. Sometimes we need a goal scorer (see: VAN) and he becomes a goal scorer. Sometimes he becomes a playmaker and sets up Backstrom. This, I think, is the key difference between him and Crosby. Crosby is an elite goal scorer. Ovechkin is EVERYTHING and ANYTHING. He knows what is needed, and he goes in and does it.

I guess my point is, don't expect Ovi to score. Expect him to do what it takes to get the W. That might be goal scoring - or it might be hip-checking a Flyer headfirst into his own bench, or calling out Malkin for boarding his buddy. He's not a one-trick pony, and that, more than anything else, is what makes him one of if not the greatest hockey players in the league.

(Schultz needs to stop being a fairy princess and start hitting some of these clowns.)

Posted by: this space for rent | October 16, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

We showed so much more than talent on the ice tonight. Tonight, we grew up a little. Tonight, we believed we were better. Tonight, is only the beginning.

Posted by: JSchon | October 16, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Please don't mention Ovie & Brash's job in the same sentence, unless you're talking about how its Brash's job to look out for Ovie should he need it. My heart won't take it. If Brash is still out Saturday, do we see a forward pulled from Hershey and Feds on D?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 16, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Uh, hello, Tarik? You forgot to mention that this was a barn-burner game that we came from behind, yet again! And won!

And how about the awesome performance of Semin? And Nyls? And Flash's best of the season? And Gordo clinching the game winner?

What is soooooo cool, is that we can win without Ove and Backs putting up the points.

And Feds? he soooo has a new career as our number 1 (hey, that makes Greenie stay on his toes) D Man!

Posted by: Tarik? | October 16, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Nice pic of Semin (with Feds) on with the game story.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 16, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Imagine when the PP starts working.

Posted by: Chris A | October 16, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

@Caps fan in TN

Capitals rally to win + DC United rally to win + Red Sox humiliated at home to lose the ALCS = friggin' AWESOME night!

Posted by: JB | October 16, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

It was a major letdown for the Penguins, who got a goal and two assists from Malkin in his personal matchup with Russian rival Alex Ovechkin, who was scoreless, but couldn’t hold a 3-0 lead with Marc-Andre Fleury in net. The Penguins were 10-1-1 in their previous 12 against the Capitals and Fleury, who made 26 saves, had been 7-0 against them in seven starts.

Alexander Semin had a goal and an assist as Washington won its third in a row. The Penguins lost their third in four games as Crosby didn’t get a goal for the fifth consecutive game.

Posted by: AP | October 16, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

JSchon, spot on bud. Tonight we also showed no fear being down 3-0. To the Pens. In Pitt.

If we can figure out how to play in the 1st my heart would be happier...

Posted by: Steve R | October 16, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

"It was a major letdown for the Penguins, who got a goal and two assists from Malkin in his personal matchup with Russian rival Alex Ovechkin, who was scoreless, but couldn’t hold a 3-0 lead with Marc-Andre Fleury in net." Who couldn't hold the 3-0 lead with MAF in net - Ovi or the Pens?

Who is editing for the AP these days? Yogi Berra??

Posted by: Misplaced modifier, anyone? | October 16, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

What the Caps are showing is that they can win without OV scoring. Once other teams realize they need to cover these other players, it can lighten the noose they are putting on OV. That will allow him to score more. Pick your poison. We have a lot of weapons and teams can't cover them all.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | October 16, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

True that Bradley stepped in, but he's just not in Brash's class. I wouldn't mind having Grant McNeill either (that's the kid that was fighting in the pre-season with the hammer blows). I still maintain that Ovi was filling holes left with Brash being out -- when Malkin boarded Semin, you may have noticed that Ovi got in his face. Like it or not, he did. Ovi's just that kind of a guy.

Posted by: this space for rent | October 16, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

More like a major run-on sentence.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 16, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse


Congrats, you win the interwebs son.

And that DCU game was awesome, but in between that game and the updates I was getting on this one, I had 3 or 4 heart attacks that I know of. Great night.

Posted by: Section 117 | October 16, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

@CTCapsFan: Spot on, dude. You put it better than I could. Ovi may not be scoring, but he's still having an impact - he's like a giant D magnet. The difference between the playoffs last year and the regular season this year is that we've got too many weapons to make that work. Just about every forward we've got out there is quickly becoming a scoring threat with Ovi tying up the D trying to keep him covered.

@ChrisA: Agreed. When the PP starts to work, this team is going to be a monster. Seriously.

Posted by: this space for rent | October 16, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

I thought McNeill was the one that didn't do a whole lot in his fight. Wasn't J. Beags doing a better job of fighting in the preseason?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 16, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

The ice in Mellon really looked awful tonight. The puck was bouncing all over the place. I saw a lot of guys going down awkwardly along the boards. That ice looked worse than ours last year in the spring. Hope Poti's OK.

The Caps have GOT to start playing in the first period. We can't keep spotting teams 2 or 3 goals in the beginning of the game and then expect to come back time and time again.

Jose looked weak in the first, but I thought he played better later in the game, specially in the 3rd at the end. I'm firmly on the fence with him. He's earned a few more looks as far as I'm concerned. Our D is very suspect. Hopefully Fedorov can help raise the level of defensive play this year. Green sure can't do it.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 16, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

1) Our penalty kill scares me

2) The 5 on 3 goal I will excuse because the delay call on Erskine was garbage, as was the slashing call on Semin

3) Malkin should have been given five for the boarding call. It doesn't get more blatant than that

4) Ovechkin won every single battle against Malking tonight. Every. Single. One.

5) If the player Ovechkin is checking decides to drop to his knees to avoid the hit (Malkin), and if Ovechkins knees come near Malkin's head that is Malkin's fault for being a wuss.

6) People need to stop questioning Nylander's value

7) Flash looks like he's turning the corner, and was all over the ice tonight

8) Fehr played pretty strong for his first real action in almost 2 weeks

9) Jose played ok. Not great, Not Terrible, but he made some good saves later

10) Other teams are paying too much attention to Ovechkin, so everyone else has a little more room. That's how Gordon scored his goal. The Pen's d-man and Fleuery both had an ey on Gordo. Good for Gordo for taking the shot

11) I hope Bradley's face hurt that guy's knuckle

12) This is the kind of win that can sweep skeletons out of the closet. Caps fans are the ones used to having their hearts broken. We turned the tables tonight. This is the kind of game that can put the history in the past where it belongs.

13) Anyone who was dogging Kozlov should have noticed how much his presence was missed on that top line tonight.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 16, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse


"This, I think, is the key difference between him and Crosby. Crosby is an elite goal scorer. Ovechkin is EVERYTHING and ANYTHING."

There's so much wrong with your statement that I don't even know where to begin.

Crosby is an elite goal scorer? Are you new to hockey? Crosby is first and foremost a playmaker...probably the best playmaker in the game today...certainly better than OV. And OV is a much much better goal scorer than Crosby.

I'm so sick of hearing the two compared...they are 1 and 1A in the league. A better comparison is OV and Malkin.

I hate the Penguins more than most people...and I am not a big fan of Crosby. But there is absolutely no question to him being on of the top playmakers in the history of hockey.

Both he and OV are both unique players that play all aspects of the game. OV is a better hitter, but Crosby is better in the defensive zone (though OV is getting better).

Wow, I must be drunker than I feel because I'm babbling. Bottom line...I don't believe Crosby to be an "elite goalscorer".

Posted by: Yosh | October 16, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

First official winning streak of the season. Let's make it a looooong one.

Posted by: Jordan | October 16, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

@ Sombrero -- I agree with all your points. I'm no longer going to complain about Kozlov. I'm still not a fan, but I did notice his absence tonight.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 16, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe 5) should read "If the player Ovechkin is checking decides to drop to his knees to avoid the inevitable beat down (Malkin), and if Ovechkins knees come near Malkin's head that is Malkin's fault for trying to blow his way out of said beat down"

Posted by: Anonymous | October 16, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Aaaand the Flyers lose...again.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | October 16, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

whoops 10) should read

10) Other teams are paying too much attention to Ovechkin, so everyone else has a little more room. That's how Gordon scored his goal. The Pen's d-man and Fleuery both had an eye on Ovechkin on the left wing while Gordo skated in with the puck. Good for Gordo for taking the shot

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 16, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

nice newspaper quote:

“Ovechkin is a great player, but every time he hits me—I don’t know why,” Malkin said.

Ovechkin’s explanation?

“It’s just a hockey game. I hit hard with everybody,” Ovechkin said, although he rarely gets involved in the defensive end in most games.

Posted by: jay | October 16, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Great comeback for the CAPS tonight! There is still a long season ahead, but wins like this one build confidence in this young team. OV is a complete player who helps the team win by doing whatever it takes. Now we need JT to play to a higher level.

Posted by: Track Collector | October 16, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Whenever Brash is out we should call up Grant.

Posted by: Egon | October 16, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse


Link? They must not have noticed Ovechkin's been on the penalty kill this year.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 16, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Eric Fehr has 2 assists in 9:41 total ice time, all of which was at even strentgh

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 16, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

oh man the pens postgame interviews are classic! watch the therrien one...thats exactly what i wanted to see after this game. crosby was a fairly gracious loser, and so was orpik but man its good to see them take interviews after getting steamrolled by caps hockey

Posted by: mike d | October 16, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Since Comcast's postgame was miniscule (because I guess we had to watch more stories about the Redskins game in three days) I still do not know who won the hard hat.

Also, did everyone else notice how the announcers kept asking where Sidney was in the third? Wow, what a difference it makes to not have the game on NBC.

Posted by: Kim | October 16, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse


I agree, Crosby (218 games, 99 goals, 199 assists) is the better playmaker however he has had a better cast to work with over the last few years. Ovie (249 games, 165 goals, 147 assists)is a natural goal scorer and a more complete player. I think Ovie's defensive play was OK last year (blocked shots and saved a couple goals) but he has really started to play both ends of the ice this year.

Posted by: LFR | October 16, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

JT is preparing a place for Varmalov -- that first goal was goofy, falling all over himself. I hope JT brings his a-game soon. The Caps wanted this win so bad -- I loved how OV kept after Malkin. Semin is really looking great so far. Clark, not so much; hopefully, he starts to play up to his own standard soon. Nylander is awesome and Backs -- where are you man? The first line does miss Kozlov. Still am very wary of Erksine on the ice. He wasn't terrible tonight, but I did notice the Pens often trying to enter the zone on his side.

Most important -- BB has this team believing it can win every game, even after a weak start. Go CAPS!

Posted by: JIM | October 16, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jay | October 16, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Someone may have already said this, but I just skimmed to the bottom to comment:

Ovechkin really wanted to score tonight. You could tell that his mini-drought is affecting the way he thinks the game. Ovechkin with a normal night (points, in whatever way) doesn't go for that pot-shot at the empty net -- he skates it around for a minute and then passes to someone else and lets them have the glory. I was glad to see Backstrom wake up along with everyone else, though, and I think that will be a turning point for their line. Backstrom got a couple of really good shots when they finally started fore-checking -- I predict Ovechkin having his break-out game at home against Brodeur. You know, just because :-).

And MAN! What a win! Semin is playing like Ovechkin, minus the super-hitting! This is why we have Semin to pick up the offensive slack when Ovechkin isn't having much luck. And having Nylander and Fedorov certainly doesn't hurt, either.

Terrible 1st period, as usual unfortunately, not quite as terrible 2nd, and amazing 3rd period. But when will the full 60 come around? I imagine that's what Bruce is yelling about right now.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | October 16, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Actually Ovie and Malkin are best buds. Ovie just pounds him to make it look good.

If anyone thinks I'm serious...

Ovie's really got Malkin under his skin and he'd going everything he can to smush Malkin. Maklin's a great player, but he's let Ovie get to him, and now I think Mal's afraid of Ovie. Which is great.

Yeah, there's no love lost between those two. Maybe they're still fighting the 1917 revolution...

Posted by: Greg S. | October 16, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

"We have a lot of weapons and teams can't cover them all." Nicely said, CT :)

Posted by: Blonde Caps Fan | October 16, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

So who's the Czar and who's the Bolsheviks?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 16, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Red Sox making it interesting...

Anyone else see that a Kolzig error led to Tampa loss in OT? Playing the puck behind net in OT.

Posted by: Kim | October 16, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

I saw the replay, Kim... my mouth just hung open for a second, I still have to shake the cobwebs to recognize him in anything but a Caps uniform, but all I can say is "Wow, I'm glad that wasn't the Caps!"

Posted by: Blonde Caps Fan | October 17, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

This was the best win against the Pens since the 1994 playoffs, pulled off by the best Caps team I've ever seen. (my concerns about Jose's porn-star-esque 5-hole notwithstanding)

And a fantastic night overall. Flyers remain winless. Tampa remains winless. Florida waxed. Atlanta, pathetic.

Oh -- and here's your Stamkos update. 9:22 ice time. 9:22! 0 G, 0 A, 1 shot. Gosh I hope they keep the kid up so they can ruin his career. But he really needs to be back in juniors.


Posted by: Oneal | October 17, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

That AV feed for the NHL highlights of tonight's game was very obviously from the Pens. They sounded depressed at the end.

God, I loved that!

Posted by: Greg S. | October 17, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Wow, check out the box score from the link posted above. All of the Caps are either a 0 or a +, all of the Pens are either a 0 or a -! Crosby with a -3! Ouch... The caps are doing just fine in even strength, they need to work on special teams and/or take fewer penalties.

Posted by: Isaac | October 17, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I hope The Donald Finds Malkin next game... I'd like to see him get a taste of his own medication. @ caps fan in TN.... what part of TN you from? I'm from Chatt.

Posted by: Section 405 behind the loud guy | October 17, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Drive home tonight?

Man, the Post is cheap.

Posted by: Tarikmania | October 17, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if anyone else caught it, but during the broadcast they had a quick shot of Fedorov just pointing stuff out to the guys on the bench. Every time I see him helping out the other guys I'm like, "Holy crap we have Sergei Fedorov."

Also, on the XM Radio tonight they were talking about a horrible give-away by Olie that led to Tampa's latest loss.. I haven't seen it but oh well, that's one horrible team they've got down there. Did I mention that Stamkos belongs in juniors?


Posted by: Oneal | October 17, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Flash got the hard hat, he is playing like the #14 that was buzzing in Hershey during the Calder Cup runs and he is going to be one of the break out players this year. Makes us very potent if Fehr and Flash keep it up

Malkin's boarding "minor" would have probably had Hollweg suspended for life, no excuse for that not to be a MAJOR and a seat in the locker room.

Personally, I love all the Pens people on their boards talking about how Ovie is a gutless headhunter, it's the other Russian wearing 71 in black and gold that could be more apt for that description. Just ask the Rangers 2 years ago when winning their playoff series with Slew FOot Malkin out there.

GO CAPS, and Tarik, have a safe trip home.

Posted by: BBD36 | October 17, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

@Yosh: Correction accepted, though it does not change my point. Ovi does everything, whenever needed. Crosby does not. That is my point, pure and simple.

Posted by: this space for rent | October 17, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Great to see the "depth" players like Gordo and Fehr step right into the lineup and make key contributions to win a game against the Pens that never seems to be easy to do.

This team is probably better able to deal with injuries then any Caps team I can remember. Between a deep roster and a stacked farm team, plus many of the regulars being able to play more then one position, we won't be crippled with a few injuries.

Awsome job to come out in the third period and play with the determination needed to turn the mojo around!

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse


Fo a bit of ill humor, go to the Pens website and check out MT's postgame presser. Can you say pissed off? LOL

Posted by: Riddler | October 17, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Ovechkin vs Crosby?

How about the Semin vs Malkin battle out there tonight?

There are so many reasons to love hating the Penguins...

Posted by: Conn coll caps fan | October 17, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

if you look at to polls attached to the post game article on, ovechkin is destroying crosby as to who will score more points, and the caps are also sporting a large lead as to which team will finish the season with more points. is this the year we finally get our respect?

Posted by: Andy | October 17, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse


"Capitals rally to win + DC United rally to win + Red Sox humiliated at home to lose the ALCS = friggin' AWESOME night!"

How about 3 great rallies all around. Caps, DC United, and the Sox (down 7 runs in the 7th inning)!!
Yes, I agree. Friggin' AWESOME night.

Posted by: eagle in CT | October 17, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

@eagle in CT

Excuse me while I pick crow's feathers from between my teeth. Oy...

Posted by: JB | October 17, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Pete | October 17, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

So if Poti's out... IS to too early to call up Alzner?

Posted by: Murshawursha | October 17, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse


Watched the highlights on this morning as it was too late to stay up last night. I've perfected it so I can get the video started without knowing the score. Even at 3-0 down I thought if we could get one we had a great chance. I thought Jose was unlucky with a couple of goals, there was some garbage there.

Great that players like Flash, Fehr and Gordo stepped up. The GWG was a fantastic shot. Sombrero is right, they focused on OV and didn't even expect Gordo to shoot. How the refs didn't pick up it was a goal straight away I don't know.

I'd have given the Hard Hat to Bradders. Someone needed to wake the bench up and he did it. The fact he had his arse handed to him on a plate then came back says a lot.

Now off to watch the post game stuff on the pens site haha!

Oh and I guess Malkin is the Czar and we know what happened to him!

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | October 17, 2008 4:12 AM | Report abuse

Wow! NHL on the Fly RIPPED Crosby - totally blamed the loss on him! I never thought I would hear anyone (outside of this board) say a bad thing about him! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 6:22 AM | Report abuse

this space for rent:
I agree with your assessment of Ovie, but not Crosby - Crosby is an elite play maker more than "an elite goal scorer".

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Oops! Should have read your post before adding mine! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | October 17, 2008 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Man, what a game last night!! Ovie and Green took it to Malkin and watching Ovie dish it out with Crosby at the end was awesome!! This team is a force to be reckon with! What a 3rd period comeback as well. Although I must say that I'm not overly impressed with Theodore just yet. He made some quality saves last night, but also gave up some questionable goals to put the Caps in the 3-0 whole. Hopefully his game will start to turn around in the coming weeks. Overall, I give the Caps an A+ for work ethic and their never say die attitude. They are living proof that you are not out of anything until the final buzzer goes off and last night was a true example!!

Posted by: Mitch | October 17, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

Good morning to all Penguins fans...I hope you stopped by to whine about Malkin getting run at all night. love it!

Posted by: Little Malkin doesnt know why | October 17, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

I was really hoping that when that sissy Malkin tried to duck Ovie's check, Ovie's knee would've taken his helmet off and knocked that big pansy's lights out! Hey Maklin you're ugly AND you suck!

Posted by: Geno=Sissy | October 17, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

What a great game! Being a caps fan I cheer for every player on our team. But I do have to say I do respect players like Sidney Crosby and Malkin. They HELP make what the game is today. Thats what makes these games so good. Pittsburgh played a great game as well. Better in the first and second period. But then the Third period was all caps!! Can't wait for Saturday Night!

Posted by: Chris | October 17, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Some sleep deprived thoughts this morning:

For what it's worth, of the 13 GA, 6 have been on the Power Play. From there, the following skaters have been on the ice for more than one of them, if I did my counting right:

Schultz, Steckel (4)
OV, Poti (3)
Flash (2)

I'm going to assume some PK work today is in order, but past that, is it too early to pull the plug on the "OV on the PK" decision?

Posted by: Section 117 | October 17, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Does anybody have any idea why we were doing a line changes with 6 seconds left in the first period that led to the too many men on the ice penalty?

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Well, now (that you posted rest of your writeup) my comments above look dumb. But you posted 3 paragraphs early before posting the rest. And sorry to say, but they looked lame without the rest.:-)

Tarik: a few questions:
1) Do you think BB will rotate Theo and Johny until one is clearly better?
2) I see Semin/Nyls combo staying together, but will Laich stay with them?
3) Who do you see going with Ovy/Backs: still Clark?
4) What is definition of long term (off the cap $) vs short term inury: how mnay weeks? So cna we get help from the Kozlov or Poti injuries or not?

Posted by: Tarik? | October 17, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse


I was kindly asking my TV in the nicest of ways the same thing after it happened.

Posted by: Fro | October 17, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

I can't say that I feel sorry for Malkin. In the Flyers game, he was mowing over every Flyer he could find, so his "poor me" about OV kabonging him is a bit nonsensical. I also love how Crysbaby started yapping for a fight and Hal Gil has to rescue him -- all the way to the box. The Pens whine like the kid who threatens to take his ball home if the game isn't go his way. If they'd won, they'd been cocky, but when they lose, they point fingers and whine. I love how their coach blamed a let-up in the 3rd for the loss, giving no credit to the Caps. Cysbaby seemed to echo those sentiments. Just keeping being so arrogant to fill the Caps message board with no respect quotes.

Posted by: JIM | October 17, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

After a night of celebration and reflection... Some coherent thoughts by JSchon...

1. For those that tried to make a case for Kozlov being missed on the 1st line, where was he against ATL, CHI, VAN? Kozlov's lone assist was on the PP and Green was the goal scorer. Ovechkin's 2 goals in the CHI game, Kozlov wasn't even on the ice. There is problem with the 1st line, its in the heads of Backstrom and OV. They'll figure it out.

2. Introducing your future 2 line LW, Tomas Fleischmann. He's only 24 people.

3. Introducing your future 1st or 2nd line RW, Eric Fehr. (OK, maybe a little premature, but I liked what I saw in his less than 10 minutes of ice time).

4. Hopefully, Introducing your full time blueliner, Sergei Fedorov. His stats when playing defense? 0G 5A +8, more importantly, 3 wins versus 0 losses.

To add to this, Erskine does as bad things as good. We are a better team with Gordon or Fehr on the ice and Feds playing D than Erskine in and both Gordon and Fehr twiddling their talented thumbs in the press box.

5. We have to stay out of the penalty box. Had we lost, I wouldn't have been blaming Theo. We put him on the spot with stupid penalties. The boards giving crazy rebounds had something to do with it.

6. Man I'm stoked

7. This team hits like a North American team but plays offense like a European team. We need to remember that as we often steamroll over people on D, we can steamroll over people on O. 3rd period, 21 to 6 SOG.

8. For people who dont know. The Penguins got every single goal on the PP, so they dont get any +'s for that and we dont lose any either, all of our goals came 5 on 5, so any Penguin on the ice at the time receives a -1. I still can't believe some hockey fans still dont understand this.

Posted by: JSchon | October 17, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

IIRC LTIR is a minimum of 24 days and ten games.

Posted by: tallbear | October 17, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I had to watch the Pens feed since I live in Philly. They were so ticked it was hilarious. The commentators were calling every check Ovechkin through dirty. But then they said it was Semin's fault for getting cross checked in the head by Malkin. Sure enough they were dead silent by the end.

Posted by: Capies | October 17, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

caps should send the tape to NHL Malkin should be suspended on the hit from behind/cross check to the head

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Gotta weigh in that I hope they keep Feds on the blue line.

Oh, and I LOVE that 2nd line of Semin, Nylander, and Laich.

Posted by: CBT | October 17, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

"Elite Goal Scorer"?
Why, that would be Mr. Alexander Semin...

Posted by: Rob Iola | October 17, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

The only thing that game was missing was Joe B on the call. I like Al Koken and everything, but he's no Joe.

Posted by: Jordan | October 17, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

@sombrero said:

11) I hope Bradley's face hurt that guy's knuckle

LOL! That is a totally priceless comment!

Go Caps!!!!! Hope this is one of many more demoralizing losses for the Penguins this year and many years to come. What comes around goes around! But lets not forget they are the runner-up Stanley Cup participants, but who ever really remembers the runner-up anymore? I think Sid the "Brat" just needed Ovechkin's broad shoulders to cry on at the end of the game.

Posted by: pensSucks | October 17, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

What is really interesting is that Gill thought he had to rescue Sid from a fight with Semin.

How sweet would it be if come February the Pens are in such a state that none of the local Pens fans want to spend the money to come see them? I know it is early in the season, but a girl can dream can't she??

Posted by: Kim | October 17, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

I had to watch the game on a french-canadian feed on my laptop. Well worth the lag. AO is a machine.

Posted by: Moose33 | October 17, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

McNeill being called up won't happen. Number 1 he is on an AHL only deal not a two way. The Caps are at 48 contract now and they are not about to make it 49 with Grant.

The 3rd goal was not on Jose at all. If you saw the replay, it bounced off a D-Mans skate.

Posted by: PaCapsFan | October 17, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

It's early and there are ALOT of games to be played yet, but this is the type of win that you build great things on and bookmark your year. This will be remembered as a key game when we are reflecting back on this season...Mark my words.

We are getting KEY contributions from secondary players. We are winning without OV figuring into the goal scoring.

I am glad to see Flash finally getting some love from some of our fans. I for one have ALWAYS stood behind him (because I know Bruce likes Flash).

Hope the CAPS have a 2 hour rule. You have 2 hours to reflect on the last game played, then you focus on the next.


Posted by: Capsfannmiss | October 17, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

2 things:
1) I'd love it if the Malkin got suspended for that hit. It was flat out dirty. Imagine if Ovi or Crosby were on the receiving end of that hit. 5 minute major and probably a game misconduct. BS to only give 2 minutes for that. I want GMGM to send that to the league, it was bush league. The league will probably say it should have warranted a 5 minute and leave it alone. That's why Ovi was going after Malkin - for that pu$$y hit, he had a target on his back.

2) "It's just a hockey game. I hit hard with everybody," Ovechkin said, although he rarely gets involved in the defensive end in most games.

WTF is up with this writing by the Canadian press. Seriously that's a backhanded compliment like I've ever seen one. 2 years ago, I'd agree. Last year he was playing a bit of D; this year he is playing a lot of D. WE'RE 4 GAMES IN. Stupid Canadian reporters.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 17, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

@ Section 405

I live near Chattanooga ... Collegedale, actually. When did you live in Chattanooga?

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | October 17, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Just a random thought. We have a Capologist for our salary cap problem,structuring,issues. Do we need to get a groinologist to start dealing with our "groins"?

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | October 17, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I thought it was hilarious during the game when Craig gave updates on the scores of the Southeast teams ... I thought, good grief, do we have to scoreboard watch ALREADY?

I'm not blaming JT for the goals ... being in the penalty box put the Caps behind, even though a couple calls were ticky-tack.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | October 17, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Would that be a male or female groinologist? Because they specialize in very different therapies.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | October 17, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

@JSchon/SombreroGuy/DaveKing - Points of the game you offered were right on!
Love what you guys have to say always and mostly like to keep my thoughts to myself!
Gotta jump in this morning!
1)Jose- Just Awful so far!
2)Backstrom and Ovie will be fine!
3)Malkin is just as big a crybaby as is Crosby!
4)Feds is under paid (just awesome) - JSchon you know I love that guy!!! He is worth every penny! And he makes hockey worth watching - not many guys can play offense and defense in the NHL if asked, the way this guys does - not even Gretzky!
5)Flash- still too soon for me! - Good game last night!
6)Nylander is steady and fun to watch! The man has "Skills"!!!
7)Kozie has not impressed me and has not dominated the way I anticipated, but it is early - I still think we missed him last night! He is so big and still commands respect when skating!
8)Must become more disciplined - our only excuse is maturity and the fact that these youngsters know when they put their mind to it, no one in the league can stop their offense so they feel like they can take stupid penalties!!! They must grow up quickly!!!
9)They are the most exciting team to watch and have more weapons than most!
10)"D" is inconsistent !!!!!!!!!
11)Brooks Laich gets pounded every game and still goes to the net - he is a "Beast"!
12)Fehr and Gordo were on Fire last night!
Wow - Our Caps are impressive!!!

Posted by: Greenie | October 17, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

With Kozlov and Poti out...



Right now Flash, Nylander and Semin are our best forwards.

The 3rd line could also be Laich/Gordon/Fehr.

Laich has been killing it on faceoffs.

Posted by: JSchon | October 17, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

@Jschon - This is becoming a beaten horse (its not dead yet) but I have to respectfully disagree about Kozlov. Backstrom doesn't seem like himself, that's why Kozlov's ability to control and feed the puck was sorely missing. Clark is much better in front of the net but Kozlov draws a defender or two when he gets the puck along the boards.

Kozlov has not produced much on the score sheet, but that line generated more chances with him than without him through the early going this season.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

What I saw from OV, was him focusing too much on Malkin. I saw a lot of over eager puck handling. I saw too many whiffs. That said, I'm not worried.

Posted by: JSchon | October 17, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Why did Comcast go straight to their normal broadcasting the minute the game ended? Don't they have a post-game show or at show the highlights? Pretty bad.

Posted by: JT | October 17, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I dont know if this has been said or not but Chris Clark doesnt fit on a line with Ovie and Backstrom. While Kozlov is out, Fehr should be up on that line. Hes got the big body and can control the puck. Clark should stay on that 3rd line and just check and grind.

Posted by: Pat | October 17, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Good stuff on Hershey Bears goalies:

And I agree with JT on comcast postgame, but I will forgive them if I win the season tickets from them.

Posted by: uncatim | October 17, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

@Pat - I agree but I think its a little too early to put Fehr up there just yet. If he continues to impress he'll get his shot.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | October 17, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Not only did DCU and the Caps come back to win, but the Caps 3rd goal to tie the game and Francis Doe's second to give DCU the lead came almost simultaneously.

Posted by: prophet | October 17, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

After listening to Orpik's and Crosby's post-game comments, it seems apparent that this win shouldn't count in the standings. They both said the Capitals did nothing different in the third and that the Penguins gave the game away; the Caps didn't earn it.

Wow. In the third period, the Capitals had 21 shots on goal, more determination and hustle, better fore-checking and they stayed out of the penalty box.

Hmmm. Nothing different, I guess. :D

As Therrien alluded to post-game, the Capitals dominated the Penguins last night at even strength.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | October 17, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

1) First goal analysis. JT on his knees to cover the flurry in front. Flurry calms down. Goalie HAS to stand up or he's a duck in the crease. Shot comes just as he's standing up and goes by the crook in his leg. He looked to be floundering on the ice because in his mind, the best way to try to keep the puck out of the net at that point was to sit down.
2) Other two goals: Both PP. First deflection off Juice's knee (not screening JT by the way) and through JT's 5-hole. While open like a porn star, you can't blame that on anybody. Third goal, kick on by Shamoo on 5-on-3. Had that puck missed Shamoo's skate JT had it covered for the whistle.

3) My dog-house is empty right now, but about to be revisited by an old friend. Last year, Flash was in mine (and just about everyone else's) dog house. Schultz is slowly making his way back there. He's not playing horrible, but he's not making that step, either.

4) YES it's too early for Alzner. We still can't afford him unless Poti or Kozzy go on IR. As long as they are day-to-day, we get no money back for them, and can't replace their salary. We have just under 700k room right now. Look for either Lepisto to be called or Bourque with Feds on D.

5) As much as I was defending Kozy yesterday (and still would), you are 100% right, JSchon. The problem is elsewhere on the top line. If I had to locate it, it would be Backstrom. Teams got a good look from the Flyers of how to get him off his game and sofar, 2 of the 3 games he's been manhandled and the top line is invisible offensively. Do we wait till December when 19 woke up last year, or do we have a quick trigger and stick 91/92 up there for a few weeks to see what happens.

6) I can guarantee you that if Ovie was asked about his "scoring slump" his response would mirror: "Why does it matter. We're winning and I can relax a bit and watch my teammates have success."

7) Anyone think JT AND BJ are letting softies in early cause they know this team plays better from behind?

Posted by: FFS Enough | October 17, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I hope the donald was taking thorough notes for the next time we play the pens. Apparently Malkin has graduated from the crosby school of crying and trying to act tough when you clearly are not. I think he graduated with a BS.

Posted by: stevo | October 17, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm pleased to see we won, but I missed watching the last third due to transportation issues, so. That said:

@JSchon - I like your lineup. :)

@Everyone who said to keep Fedorov on offense: HA! He kicks BUTT on the blue line!

@Everyone who's worried about Ovechkin not scoring: what FFS Enough said about it. 6) I can guarantee you that if Ovie was asked about his "scoring slump" his response would mirror: "Why does it matter. We're winning and I can relax a bit and watch my teammates have success."

Posted by: i rock the red | October 17, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"Ovechkin is a great player, but every time he hits me - I don't know why," Malkin said.
Ovechkin's explanation?
"It's just a hockey game. I hit hard with everybody," Ovechkin said,
although he rarely gets involved in the defensive end in most games.

You have to feel bad for Malkin after reading this. Seems like Malkin has never done anything to Ovechkin, yet AO wants to murder him. Even in Malkin's quote he shows respect to AO.

One or both of these have to be true:

- AO wants to be the best Russian player, and he knows Malkin is right there beside him

- AO doesn't like Malkin's agent (after the altercation in Russia), thus he is taking it out on Geno.

Posted by: Omar | October 17, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

It is also good to read the board and no one has anything bad to say about the lumberjack, on the other hand can Schultz even make it look like he is attempting to hit somebody. Matt Bradley should have gotten the hard hat, that fight did not look fun to be in at all

Posted by: stevo | October 17, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Why do the Pens cry about Ovie? He is a 4th line checker and a 1st line scorer. He is every teams dream..

What a bunch of babies.

Posted by: Stop Crying Yellow and Black | October 17, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I think Malkin is still gun shy after getting clobbered by Richards in the playoffs. He looks over his shoulder when ever he is near the boards. And when he sees Ovie coming he tries to get the #$%& out of the way! HA HA HA!!!!

Posted by: BearsWoooo | October 17, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

i wasn't the biggest fan of flash (didnt hate him though), but he's looking good. his best play last night was diving for the puck and almost scoring, and thats when i became a fan of flash... thats whats up

im the biggest fan of feds and would love to see him up front, but he needs to play D cuz no matter who he plays wit they look good in the back, erskine, jurcina dont matter.

Posted by: vik | October 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

“Ovechkin is a great player, but every time he hits me—I don’t know why,” E-Malkin


Can we make some poster when the yellow birds come to our house?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse


I agree about Flash. He looked good last night and that diving shot would have been so sweet if he would have connected. He is starting to look like the Flash we all knew and loved back in Hershey. I also agree about Feds, he is such a smooth skater and so versatile. He’s good everyone the ice, and is a great role model for the youngins’.

Posted by: BearsWoooo | October 17, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I think the biggest joke I have seen the pens do is give the "A" to Malkin. He can't speak English!!!

Posted by: stevo | October 17, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse


"Why do the Pens cry about Ovie? He is a 4th line checker and a 1st line scorer. He is every teams dream.."

Classic, and the way I will for now on characterize the best player in the world--4th line checker, 1st line scorer.

It's like combining Roni Lott and Jerry Rice into one person...scary.

Posted by: Pete | October 17, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I work with a big Pens fan. First thing he said to me this morning was "well, we handed you that win." I said no, we beat you because we woke up and decided to stay out of the box and play some hockey. Then he said "why does Ovechkin hate Malkin?" I said I don't know, but I love it!

Posted by: tess | October 17, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Caps fan in TN

Would that be SAU? I worked with them on their financial system implementation a few years ago...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

From all the Pens fans...
"we gave you guys the game."

How about we gave you guys the first two periods and we took the third.

wah wah.

Posted by: MNMNT | October 17, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

anyone fill me in on why Ovie wants to take Malkins head off? I haerd something before about this but forgot the reason. Hope he does and Malkin better be ready.
Theodore still looks rusty

Posted by: Paul | October 17, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

theodore looks beyond rusty. he needs to find his game, we can't be depending on the offence to win us every game. i don't have faith in either goalie being able to steal a game for us.

so tarik, who do you think will be in goal at home tomorrow? give theo another shot, and give johnny a start in calgary?

Posted by: IAMOK | October 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Okay... I will enter the fray. Crosby and Ovechkin are two different type players. Its pointless to compare them to each other, so lets compare them to someone else.

I agree Crosby is a playmaker, so lets compare him to Adam Oates.

Ovie is more of an all around hitter/scorer type. Not many of those rigs around. Compare him to Gordie Howe?

I think thats about right.

Posted by: Muddapucker | October 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

ovechkin is invisible. when is he going to show up and start playing hockey. his head is not in the game.

oh, and backstrom.... uh is he still in sweden?

Posted by: ovechkin is invisible | October 16, 2008 10:41 PM

What f@#$%&* game were you watching??????????????

Posted by: virtueandvice | October 17, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Last night in my opinion Theodore played fine. He got caught in between on the first goal and a freak bounce off the side of the net resulted in the goal. He made two great saves right at the beginning on Crosby. The 2nd and 3rd goal what are you going to do.

Bottom line is we stay out of the box, Pittsburgh wouldnt have generated much offense. The only problem I have with Theodore so far is he seems to press because he wants to help the team out so much.

When a goalie presses his natual inclination is to anticipate the play too often and that has gotten him caught in between a couple of times or sliding across the crease too far. He should start 2 out of every 3 games. Play him tomorrow night. Then let him pick the game he to sit out on the west coast swing.

Posted by: Pat | October 17, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

So, on the matter of Schultz again...
He had 20 minutes on the ice. I still think that is too much. First period. Two PPG against us. Who is on the ice WATCHING the play? Jeff Schultz. Outcome? 2-0 lead. Yet some how, this "powerhouse" of a defensemen manages an even rating? I also loved watching him on defense in the third period get taken out of the play by his skating, and then knocking over two of our own players taking them out of the play as well, right infront of Theodore. ALZNER PLEASE

Posted by: Anonymous | October 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse


I would compare Crosby to maybe a Stevie Y type of player. Good vision, and play making ability. Of course, Yzerman isn't as whiny. I would compare Ovechkin to.....hmmm....tough one. He has the skill of Bure and the grit of Phaneuf. Lindros was a physical, skilled guy, but too delicate for his size and nowhere as fast or as skilled as Alex.

Posted by: BearsWoooo | October 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

New Thread

Posted by: New Thread | October 17, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse


Report: Ovechkin Punches Malkin's Agent

According to Sport-Express:

Washington Capitals star Alexander Ovechkin broke the jaw of Evgeniy Malkin's agent Gennady Ushakov.

Once well-known keeper Gennady Ushakov came out to take part in a pre-season match the other day with his jaw injured.

It has become known that a conflict flared up between Alexander Ovechkin and Gennady Ushakov during a night club party.

Ushakov is said to have insulted Ovechkin which led to a fight in which Malkin's agent had his jaw broken.

I talked to a Russian reporter who would know about this. He said details about the incident are sketchy, but he's pretty confident that it did happen. He also said it was a "damaged" jaw, not a broken one.

One thing is for sure: Ushakov won't be Ovechkin's new agent.

Posted by: Omar | October 17, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

HA! Groin!

Posted by: Krazijoe | October 17, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

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