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Poti Out With 'Lower Body Injury'

Defenseman Tom Poti suffered an apparent leg injury late in the first period last night against Atlanta. The team didn't release any specific information on the severity or nature of his injury, and I did not see him in the dressing room afterward. A team official later said Poti, the team's ice time leader, is day-to-day with a "lower body injury".

Without Poti, Mike Green skated a career-high 33:07.

The Caps practice tomorrow in Sunrise, so I should know more a bout Poti status then.


By Tarik El-Bashir  |  February 13, 2008; 11:31 PM ET
 
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Crap.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 14, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

it was not a coincidence that after poti went off atlantas shooting increased three fold

Posted by: Anonymous | February 14, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Maybe they'll recall Lepisto again!

Oneal

Posted by: Oneal | February 14, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Frustrating game last night.

Gordon missed the breakaway by an inch. Pettenger had a nice chance. Semin set up Green on a beauty. Just couldnt bury it last night. Should of been our two points.

Got to have some lower line garbage goals.

Posted by: SA-Town | February 14, 2008 6:46 AM | Report abuse

I really wish we had a goaltender like Kari although I have to say that Olie did really good last night. I definately thought we outplayed the Thrashers last night..

Posted by: kcme | February 14, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

olie was really good lasy night ,,,,

Posted by: erick | February 14, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

They need Poti for this run. I'd rather go with a known quality and play Emminger if Poti can't go.

Posted by: caps423 | February 14, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I hope Poti's injury isn't too serious.

Just a reminder to everyone...

The Hershey Bears game will be on the NHL Network tonight at 7pm.

Posted by: Travis | February 14, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Kari was a beast last night.

Posted by: Steve R | February 14, 2008 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Not good news... Especially since if you asked any "team official" about Nylander's shoulder they'd say he was Day-to-Day.

Very frustrating about how close to the vest this team keeps injuries, but I understand why. If you say what it is specifically, we know other teams will tee-off on the guy.

I hope it's not serious. Poti is our best Dman and has more playoff experience of all of our blue-liners combined.

And, can someone please do something about goalies with the last name of L. They kick our asses.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

In the standings, we're currently listed at the top of the southeast and third in the conference. Does anyone know why we're ahead -- meaning, what determines the tiebreaker? Is it because we have a game in hand?

It seemed like Green was on the ice for all but 5 mins of the third and ot.

Also, is Gordon really one of our top three for SO's? What about Kozlov?

Posted by: Hook | February 14, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

so Tarik, you are going to Sunrise this time? thought you usually avoided that place like the plague.

Posted by: frank | February 14, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Sit Erksine -- that guy cannot skate and his stick work is pathetic. Let Eminger play and call-up Lepisto. Not Poti = big trouble.

The Caps should make a trade for a veteran center because the 2nd line needs help. A RW might help too. Could the Caps sign Klepis? He seemed to be a playmaking center and the Caps are thin in that department. They have some awesome grind centers who win faceoffs and create energy, but Stekel and Gordon are not exactly deft shooters or passers.

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

The Caps are in first, I think, because they have played in one less game than ATL and the Canes.

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Caps are in 1st because they have played fewer games which creates a higher point percentage.

Canes are then second because they have more wins that ATL

Posted by: MetalCap | February 14, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

I think he put Gordon in the shootout b/c he had 5 shots including that crazy save by Lehtonen.

Posted by: sad | February 14, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

"I don't think we deserved to win tonight," Hossa said. "Washington was the much better team. I think [Lehtonen] saved the game."

I hope I dont have to read a quote like that again on this road trip.

They should write that on the white board to remind themselves they cant afford to give 2 pts away.

Posted by: From Atl Journal Constitution | February 14, 2008 9:33 AM | Report abuse

JIM

Like I've said before, I think trading for a rental would be a HUGE mistake, and advocating a trade for a C and RW is clearly a rental, unless you don't believe Clark and Nylander will be with the team next year (both are under contract, so they'd have to be traded if they don't return.)

Making the playoffs this year (had we started the season better, I don't think there'd be any doubt we would make the postseason) would be nice, it is NOT worth screwing up the locker-room dynamic that is being created. Trading young talent for a vet C or RW would be a huge mistake. We got where we are right now because of our young talent, it is not time to mortgage that. Ride this wave to the top of the east over the next couple years.

If the caps made any moves right now, another scoring threat would be nice, but not for the price that most of the good ones would cost (StLouis, Hossa...). This would also require giving up some good talent to get such a scorer (Flash, Laich, Fehr). I would not mind seeing us trade a draft pick or two in the 2009 draft for a good 2nd-line scorer, but it would have to be a guy we plan on keeping (and would also bump one of brads/gordo/pettinger/laing off the roster.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Man is this going to be a crazy couple weeks. Anybody know where I can get a good deal on a home defibrillator? Kari was a beast in goal... I think seeing OV on the schedule makes goalies focus and prep too much! Olie looked good too.

I can only hope some others step up and start adding to OV's goals. It's kinda scary that the next top scorer on the team is a defenseman. Kozy has been stepping it up, hope that trend continiues and some others join in. Semin has had some wicked moves lately, hopefully they will start going in and soon!

Posted by: TheCapitalist | February 14, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Dear league,

If you would like to score against me in the shootout, please go high stick side.

Best,

Olie Kolzig

Posted by: olie the shootout target | February 14, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Lehtonen played an amazing game last night. That being said, I look at some of the chance our boys had (especially Gordo)and am taken back to what my old coach told us so many times over the years. "Even when the goalie is down and you have open net to shoot at, shoot top shelf".

The way that game started, I thought it would be an easy win. Apparently the Caps did too, because they went to sleep after their first goal and let ATL skate all over them for 2 periods.

Posted by: BearsWoooo | February 14, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

@ FFS Enough

I agree - unless we can get an impact player with some time left on his contract, giving up big parts of our future are not worth it. We're not going to be getting lots of high picks moving forward. I'm not worried though, I think GMGM will stay cool and only entertain offers that help the club long-term.

Posted by: TheCapitalist | February 14, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone else concerned with when BB calls for some line changes. I have seen this team, too many times, go for a full D change or even full 5 man change without SAFELY clearing the puck into the offensive zone. This killed us last night and led to Hossa's (what I consider to be) Game-winning goal.

We need to have some contingency plan in place for when the puck does not make it into the zone, or goes to the goalie. Maybe let the players stay on the ice if they see this happen and ignore the call for change. This could cause problems, but I see way too many chances for other teams coming off of poorly timed line changes.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Sombrero Guy.

Crap indeed. I hope it's just a bruise.

Posted by: EricS | February 14, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

@ FFS Enough

Who says the Caps have to give up prospect? If that's the price, then no deal. The Caps have some awesome young talent a year or two away (Alzner, Godfrey, Puculok, Bouchard, Perreault, Neuvirth, and Varlamov) that are untouchables. But Pettinger, Eminger, and some of the other checking line guys the Caps have in droves can buy a UFA. I say a UFA because teams want to get something for a guy who isn't coming back. And I'm not even thinking about a big-name trade, but a guy who fits the Caps needs and can be signed in the summer if he works out (long term audtion, if you will). I think the Caps should plan on Clark and Nylander for next year, hence the UFA who can be let go. I'm thinking like Esa Tikkenin (spelling?) in the 97-98 Cup run -- great pick up. Hossa and Sundin are going to cost too much. Some teams have guys who are not playing as much as they'd like because they have depth where the Caps don't and the Caps may have depth where another team doesn't. Look at the Canes-Sens trade -- not really big names but addressed what both teams felt they needed.

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

@ FFS Enough (part deux)

I also wonder if the Caps would entertain bringing Klepis back as he is a play-maker with a good shot. Just a thought, but it wouldn't cost them much and he might click better with Semin and a RW to be named (Flash or Fehr).

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Klepis? Uh no.

Not sure what Hossa was talking about ... after dominating the first period, I wasn't too impressed with the Caps performance in the second and third. At least Ovechkin snagged up a point.

I hate the Thrashers. :)

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

JIM, a big problem is that you're not going to get much for a combo of Eminger/Pettinger/Laich. If the player you're bringing in isn't any better, that doesn't help at all.

Posted by: tallbear | February 14, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

@frank - it would be foolish of Tarik to skip a trip to southern Florida in February and allow his colleague to cover the games this weekend. In case you haven't noticed, it's #%&^$ cold outside!

Plus, hopefully he'll give us some scoop on the father-son activities.

Posted by: duh | February 14, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I was pulling my hair out when Kozlov wasn't put in the shootout lineup. Isn't that why we got him? And Gordo might have had a good chance, but he didn't score! Kozlov did!

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

@Jordan- Have you noticed that Kozlov hasn't scored once in a shootout this year? So yes one of the reasons we brought him over here was b/c of the shootout but as of yet he hasn't produced.

Posted by: kcme | February 14, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I hate the shootout. I also think that both teams should only get points when it goes to a shootout. If you can win it in the 4-4 OT, then you get 2 pts...the loser gets nothing.

Posted by: SA-Town | February 14, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

@kcme,

Kozlov has indeed scored in the shootout this year. I distinctly remember one against Florida, in fact.

@SA-Town,
Agreed.

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Play a full OT period of 20 minutes. Win get 2 pts, lose 0 pts, tie is 1 pt each.

Shootouts is a BS way to "declare" a winner.

Posted by: Steve R | February 14, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

@ Caps Fan in TN

Why not Klepis? His numbers in the AHL are as good as Flash's. Check out tsn on Klepis: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=3113&hubname=nhl-capitals
He may fit in pretty well in a fairly cheap two year deal without giving up any picks or players. The merry-go-round of Gordon, Laich, and Steckel has not worked and taking Kovlov off the first line breaks up the only line that can score.

@ Tallbear

The Caps don't need to get a big name, overpaid player for a few players or draft picks. Clark was had for a 4th rounder (I think), and he fit the Caps a lot better than the Flames. Sometimes players need a new environment, different coach, different lockerroom to shine. I think Pettinger and Eminger are those kind of players and maybe some other team has a player or two who aren't working out for them.

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

If McPhee were the Panther's GM, Zednik would be listed as out with an "upper body injury."

Posted by: Cpl Cespod | February 14, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Lehtinen has our number so bad, I am surprised no one has "run him" yet. It would only take once to rattle him...OLD TIME HOCKEY LOL

I wonder since Olie struggles so much in shootouts, if they ever thought about bringing in Johnson just for them, like a relief pitcher (c: Hey, if you are going to lose in the shootout anyway, it can't hurt to try it once (c:

Posted by: CantMissKid | February 14, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I dunno.. Kolzig was amazing against the Oilers a little while back.

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

@CantMissKid


If Laing were in the lineup I promise you he would have run at Kari because he's a grinder and that's what he does best.

Posted by: Mitch | February 14, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Losing Poti is going to hurt. The defense has no depth and it looks like Lepisto will get his shot at the NHL. I hope he does well but this league is not known for being nice on rookie defensemen.

Olie was awful in the shootout. As much as I hate the SO, it's a part of the game and the Caps need to prepare better for them. Olie has never been a good SO goalie as his style isn't particularly suited for it. Why wasn't Ovie the first shooter? He should always be the first shooter because as we saw last night, it was over by the second shooter. The order should be "Ovie, Kozlov, Semin". Why on earth BB put Boyd Gordon out there is beyond me. In a division where the race for the playoff spot is so close, that missed point last night could come back to haunt us.

Posted by: MadFlava | February 14, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Okay, I will play the silly game too.

I propose a trade with Buffalo...

First round this year,
Second round next year,
Ben Clymer and Steve Emminger for...

Brian Campbell,

but only if Campbell shows interest in signing a deal with the Caps of at least three years.

Posted by: Muddapucker | February 14, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Here is the issue the league faces with OT and the Shootout.

1) Sending a fan home with a tie just wasnt making the average fan happy. Something had to be done.

2)20 minute OT's, or sudden death is just too grueling on the players. Your talking about adding an enourmous amount of Ice time to the season.

I undertand the shootout is more to appease the average fan, and I understand that from a marketing perspective. I just think the point should only go to both teams after the 5 minute OT.

Posted by: SA-Town | February 14, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Why is anyone surprised at the shootout. We suck at them. Kozlov may have been good at them with other teams but not here. Ovie doesn't have good numbers on the shootout either. With this team it's a kind of a crap shoot no matter who you choose. The fact of the matter is that that is our weakest part of the game.

Posted by: fan | February 14, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Any news on a new affiliation agreement between the Caps and the Bears?

Posted by: bears fan | February 14, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I would of shot Fleischman with that new contract. He needs to see the light go on.

I also think that the first shot from Atlanta was a tough move. Joe B called it, and it was pretty sick.

Posted by: @Madflava | February 14, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

CantMissKid, I'm not entirely sure, but I think goalies aren't allowed to warmup if you switch for the shootout. I gather from Joe and Locker's banter that someone has tried that before though.

Posted by: tallbear | February 14, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The Caps really tried to go all out to avoid it. They owned OT.

Thats all you can ask for. Screw the shooutout.

Posted by: On the Shootout | February 14, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/statistics?stat=nhlmorescoring&league=e&sort=shog&order=true&qual=true&season=2008&seasontype=2&split=null&pos=all&row1=1

Eastern shootout statistics. Statistically, Semin is our best and KOZLOV DOES HAVE ONE, HAH! 1/4 isn't bad..

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

@ Jim

Klepis went back to Europe.

I dont think he belongs to the Caps anymore anyway.

Posted by: mrv52 | February 14, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

@ muddapucker

I like that deal and I think we might be able to get Campbell for less (no 2nd rounder). Campbell wants out of Buffalo, he will not sign a deal before the trade deadline in a couple of weeks and the Sabres will not let him go for free (a la Drury and Briere). Also, the Sabres owe us one for "giving" them Zubby at last year's deadline.

Posted by: 8 is enuf | February 14, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Im my opinion, Backstrom and Green are our best stick handlers. I would think that is important coming in on the shootout. I would go with Green, Semin, Ovie, Backstrom, Kozlov. Some kind of rotation of those guys.

I would let Olie shoot before some of the rest of them.

Posted by: Shootout | February 14, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Campbell's contract going to be pretty hefty next year, though?

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Olie played very well, got beat by a great move and a great shot, but we also had chances to score and we didn't. But when you have 41 shots on goal you expect to win - Kari stuffed Gordo in regulation and again in the shootout, as well as having a puck cleared off of the goal line by his defenseman that was going in. Basically we were about 8 inches total from scoring 2 more goals in regulation. Put this one behind us and knock Florida out.

Posted by: Roose | February 14, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Bad news about Poti. In fact, it sucks.

Hopefully, the other D pick up where Poti left off. Good thing that the Caps carried 8 D. Recently, I think Eminger has looked good as a 5/6 defenseman. Doesn't look good that Pothier has yet to skate!

The second line, Semin, really misses Nylander and Clark! Flash (Slow-Poke)and Gordo are not 2nd line material. Gordo's trying but like I said, he's not a 2nd line centerman. BB & GMGM see potential in Fleishman but I can't see it from afar.

The 3rd & 4th lines need to start finding the back of the net or the "P" will not be in the future this year. Please, somebody park in front of the net - be an Espo!

The great teams always have a guy(s) that get bumped up to the top lines and picks up the slack. I haven't seen anyone do this for the Caps yet. I'm keeping my fingers crossed though.

They need to pick up 4 points over the next 2 games!

Posted by: Nils | February 14, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Glimpse into the future: Poti's out for a week, then two weeks, then three, and then comes back for one game. Aggravates the injury -- and back on IR. Sound familiar?

Posted by: jak | February 14, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

With Poti out, we definitely need some Laingination next game, amirite?

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

From the Caps website (recap of ATL game):

Undefeated in OT - With Wednesday's win over Washington, the Thrashers have matched Edmonton with 13 wins in overtime or the shootout this season, the most in the NHL. Atlanta is 13-0-4 in games requiring extra time this season.

Let me ask you this - WHO is NOT undefeated in OT? You either win, or you get one point (like a tie)... who's the adwizard that came up with that one?

Posted by: 828 | February 14, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

@mrv52

The Caps list Klepis as a prospect, so I think they own the negotiating rights to him as a RFA. Klepis needs a couple years to become an UFA, if I remember the CBA correctly.

I think Kelpis is better than what we got right now for a 2nd line center.

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I think they mean that nobody has scored an OT goal against them.

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Lepisto will be called up from Hershey - let's see what he's got.

They mentioned that Clark was skating this past week - that is a good sign. I doubt we will see Pothier again this year - all of these concussion happy people. What a shame.

Posted by: 828 | February 14, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Well, if you go to NHL stats:

http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/app?fetchKey=20082ALLAAAAll&page=Stats&service=page&sort=otWins&viewName=overtimeRecords

You will see that ATL has 13 wins and 4 losses. ATL has lost in OT before. I just thought it was stupid how they put it up there. I think I should send it to Jay Leno.

Posted by: 828 | February 14, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Campbell's at $1.75 mil this year. I could see him getting a 3yr $8 - 9 mil contract.

Posted by: 8 is enuf | February 14, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Some of you guys blow me away with your lack of knowledge. First Jim, Klepis is history. He couldn't cut it, nobody else wanted him, becuse he stinks. He is gone, forget him! Second Nils, Flash is a slow poke? Do you even watch the games?? I know you don't watch any practices! There is a reason his nickname is Flash. I agree with the assessment of the experts GMGM and BB. Flash is going to break out soon and be a strong player for us. Semin and Flash paly well together. In fact, I have much more problems with Semin than I do anyone else on the team. There is nothing worse than exraordinary talent that you see in spurts between episodes of laziness. Sound like anyone familiar?? I call him a 'Jagr in Training'. The only thing that keeps him in line is OV and Kozlov.

You are right about one thing: without a second line center this team will go no where in the playoffs this year and may not even make it. I don't have the answer on what the right thing to do is, but I think no second line center equals no playoffs.

Posted by: kenwood | February 14, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering why Erskin was out there in OT and the Third with Green. I was like WTF? I didnt realize Poti was hurt, I had the game muted.

I really hate the shootout, why cant they do 10 minutes of 4 on 4. I have no doubts most games would end in the OT. All it takes is one player to get caught and you got an 4 on 3 rush.

Semin should have one it in OT he had a glorious shot in the slot. His radar ws off last night.

Posted by: TJ | February 14, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

@ kenwood

Totally agree on Semin. Lazy and does not fit with the work ethic of this team. Too often waits for the puck to come to him rather than work for it and when he doesn't make the perfect play, he gets even lazier than usual or takes a stupid penalty. I'd deal him in a second if the right offer came along.

Posted by: 8 is enuf | February 14, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

@8 is enuf.

Yeah, I would too. I think we need young guys like getzlaf and penner, not Semin.

Posted by: kenwood | February 14, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

@828

"who are the ad wizards that came up with this one"

fantastic SNL reference my friend.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 14, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

When Clark comes back - I am sure Kozlov will move to 2nd line Center and Clark will go to 1st line RW. We have players that are injured and yet we found a way to get into the playoff hunt.

As for Semin - do you all remember them talking about Backstom and how they said most Forwards mature when they are 26-27... Semin is 23. All penalties are most likely the result of being lazy... so, we could say Erskine gets lazy or Mo. Was Kolzig being lazy on the shootout attempts? Why wasn't he standing on his head like Kari? That's beside the point... In the past few games, I have seen Semin block shots, hustle back on the forecheck, and making less mistakes. Jagr had size on Semin - he wasn't pushed around so he could be lazy... I would take Semin over Jagr any day. I just think you are getting sneak peaks of what's to come in the future. Everyone needs to be patient.

The Caps are in playoff contention and now we have more experts that come to the blogs.

Posted by: 828 | February 14, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

@ Kenwood

Kelpis almost made the team this summer at tryouts when the Caps had Nylander and Backstrom. The hold up was over a two-way or one-way contract. Kelpis even skated without a contract showing heart and played well. The Caps would not have invited him to camp if he wasn't on the bubble. I think GMGM didn't sign him to a one-way was because Klepis was not garunteed a spot with two better offensive centers in Backstorm and Nylander. Now the equation has changed and Klepis played very well in BB's system.

Here are his numbers from last year in Hershey:
GP: 31 G: 6 A: 26 Pts: 32 +/-: +22
Gordon, Steckel, and Laich did not nearly do as well because they are checking line material.
Oh, and TSN rates Klepis highly, and they know a lot more about hockey than you. Snocthin'

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

If I were to fix overtime, here's what I'd do.

5 min 5 on 5 period. Give the teams that ARE better 5-on-5 a chance to prove that. Afterall, 60 min of the game is 5 on 5, shouldn't some of OT be. After this, give each team a point.

5 min of 4 on 4 after that. Then to the shootout.

The reason the shootout exists is to keep the game interesting and not drag it out into the wee-hours of the night like a playoff game. This isn't soccer. We don't want or need every game ending in a tie.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Semin's radar was off last night??? Is it too much to ask him to at least put the puck on net when he's in the shootout? Jeez!!!

Posted by: 8 is enuf | February 14, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

@828

Well said. I remember them discussing those age numbers last night during the game. Granted Semin has taken some poor penalties in the past month or so, but what player doesn't have a stretch like that? It's like you said, you have to be patient, which about 80% of the people posting on here are not. They are all too quick to judge after something happens.

Posted by: G-Rub | February 14, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

You know, Joe B. last night pretty much predicted *exactly* the move that Eric Perrin would make on the SO.

What I am wondering is how come Olie was totally and completely fooled by that move. I would have thought that Olie would have reviewed films of all the Thrashers' likely shooters, and then quickly gotten some oral reminders again from the coaches just before the SO got underway.

I don't think there is a great excuse for Joe B up in the booth knowing what Perrin is going to pull but Olie being clueless.

Posted by: Drew | February 14, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

While we are on the 'I hate the shootout' kick...

Id like to propose a few other rule changes..

1 - Be done with the shootout. Hold one 10 minute 4 on 4 OT period. Winner gets 2 pts..loser gets none, tie both get one. Chances are the game is over within the 1st 6 mins anyway.

2 - For short handed situations. If you score shorthanded (major penalties excluded), the penalty is over, your team is now back to 5 on 5.

3 - Get rid of the instigator rule.

4 - Fighting strap not being buckled should merely be an extra 10 minutes. Put a stipulation that a certain amount of those penalties per game/season carry extra penalties for the team.

5 - Goalie playing the puck beyond the hash marks...if a goalie comes out of the crease and handles the puck beyond the hash marks, he can be checked. This just takes the concept of the trapezoid rule a few steps further.

Thats just my two cents.

Posted by: Tommmy | February 14, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

@ 8 is enuf,

When you're shooting for the corners of the net, the puck can go wide. Why do you think Ovechkin fires so many "just wide?"

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps talking about Klepis. He is no longer in Hershey. He left the team early in the season to play in Europe. At this point he is not an option. Read for yourself:

http://www.hersheypa.com/events/hershey_bears/news/detail.php?bp=index.php&id=2242

Posted by: BearsWoooo | February 14, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Tarik-
Are you have a 2pm online chat tomorrow?

Posted by: K | February 14, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Drew, I was wondering that even before Joe B said something. Do hockey players watch a ton of film like football players and baseball players? I doubt basketball players do.

Film is key in sports, especially professional sports.

Posted by: 828 | February 14, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

The Patriots LOOOOOOOOVE to watch game films!

Posted by: Tom Brady | February 14, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

guys....check out this steeltown idiot... i already made a comment on how part of ovechkins celebration is a tribute to his dead brother....just thought I would use that to make this kid feel like crap.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaIaybZyXFQ&eurl=http://deadspin.com/356404/the-only-dude-in-the-world-who-thinks-ovechkin-sucks

Posted by: SHWEDY | February 14, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Tom Brady - and that is why they are soo good.

Posted by: 828 | February 14, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

That was interesting that Joe B mentioned the exact move that Perrin ended up pulling.

But even as a card-carrying Olie-basher, let me say this -- that's one heck of a friggin' move.

Semin should have taken notes. Did you see the SPEED Perrin came with? Most guys kind of amble up to the goalie and either try a move or just shoot like Semin did. I think Semin was actully doing something slower than ambling. I think he was meandering.

Anyway, I thought Perrin has caught on to something.. bring speed to the shootout and you might have an advantage.

Oneal

Posted by: Oneal | February 14, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

OT should be a single 20 minute period of 5 on 5, no shootout. If it ends tied, so be it, but NO loser points!
I'd prefer continuous OT but that's just not realistic, especially with back-to-back games seemingly every weekend.

Posted by: :-/ | February 14, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Drew, 828, obviously Olie doesn't go to NHL.com for in-depth scouting reports. :)

Posted by: tallbear | February 14, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@Oneal

yeah that's a monster move. Since he's being consistent with it, I'd say it's the best move I'd ever seen on a SO.

Posted by: mauree | February 14, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

828

If by "good" you mean classless, CHEATERS then yes, I suppose they are "good".

Anyway, I guess they are good enough to be the second best team in league.

Posted by: Tom Brady | February 14, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

About "loser points..."

There's a couple problems with reverting back to the previous overtime style.

The primary reason they changed to what it is now is that teams were "playing for the point..." As soon as games got into overtime, it would be a passing clinic without any flare for 20 min. Partially cause guys were tired and also because nobody wanted to do anything "daring" and risk losing the 1 point they might get. Giving teams 1 point at the start of OT is great cause then it let's them fight it out for an extra point.

Other issues were the length of games and how much more ice-time was placed on the season, guys getting tired, etc. This also affects fans. It's a late night already. We don't need to stretch it.

Plus, it's also nice to be able to differentiate even more between good/bad teams. I'll take it to an extreme to prove the point. Which team should be ranked higher, a team that loses all it's games, or one that loses all it's games in OT?

Under the previous system, there was no way to differentiate this.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

@jordon

Understood but that shot seemed a little bit more than "just wide".

Posted by: 8 is enuf | February 14, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

How about the Goalies have to play OT with a regular stick?

Posted by: Overtime Rule | February 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

@ 8 is enuf,

Might have been, maybe you had a better look at it than me.

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I personally like having both teams earn a point after a game is tied at the end of regulation. It makes OT fun to watch whereas before it was boring actionless hockey. It was RARE when a team actually generated quality scoring chances, let alone score in OT.

There is NO way you can have a 20 minute OT.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, you think Semin is the problem? I don't see it. He has played exceptionally well over his last few games, particularly in third periods. If he had half-decent linemates maybe he wouldn't be forced to skate through four defenders on every shift.

All the Semin hate is just covering up the real problems - the loss of Nylander and Clark.

Posted by: Ben | February 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Overtime rule:

How about both dressed goalies go at it in an old-fasioned slug-fest...? tagteam even.

First goalie to push the other team's goalie out of the neutral zone wins.

OVERTIME SUMO!

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

The league needs to change the point system. The easiest would be to go to a three point must system. Win in regulation earn three points. Win in OT or shootout and the winner gets 2 and the loser gets 1. But as it stands now some games are worth more than others and it would value regulation wins more than OT or shootout wins.

Posted by: freakinandpeakin | February 14, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

@freakin,

A lot of people have proposed this to Bettman on his XM radio show, and he always shoots it down. Makes sense to me, though.

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Ben-

Add Pothier to taht list. Aside from Mike Green, who would be our #1 blue-line point producer?

I do think the loss of Clarkie and Nyls has taken a major toll on Semin's POINT production but what concerns me is the same thing that I have been bothered by the last few seasons. Semin has a nasty habit of getting lazy. I don't mind if he mishandles the puck, or if it gets taken from him on the backcheck. That kind of stuff will happen. It's what he does AFTER that which drives me up the wall. His "desire" to regain possession is not as high as I'd like.

As a footnote, Semin has played well lately... Well, I didn't see last night's game, but the last few I have been finding myself complaining less about Semin's "laziness," and when someone needs to take control of the game, it is Semin/Koz who I look for to make things happen. Ovie's just there to reap the rewards.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

@Jim, Kenwood

Klepis is another example of what I would call a "fungible player". He might be better than Petter on the checking line, he might not. But its pretty clear that he wouldn't be a vast improvement.

Posted by: old time hockey | February 14, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

@ FFS Enough

Agreed, that is why they give away points to the losing team. Otherwise, it would be a boring OT like it used to be.

What if they did something radical, like give an extra 2 points to the winner so that the loser gets 1 and the winner gets 3?

@ JIM

Klepis was awful as a Cap. The other players you mention are at least better than Klepis as a Cap, who cares about the AHL success. Let it go.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | February 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

The one defense that appears to be out there with a longer term contract and young enough to help long term is Wade Reddon from the Senators. At least on Yahoo he appears to be on the block. The Sens are close or will be over the salary cap next year and need to move his salary. Any thoughts? Not sure what the Sens want but not going to be cheap, but he is a longer term keeper and not just a rental.

Posted by: Rich C | February 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I noticed Poti winch behind the Caps net in the first period and head to the bench. Did not see him out there in the second or third. I kept waiting for Joe B and Locker to make that observation but they didn't. It was pretty obvious not only that Poti wasn't out there but BB was mixing up the defense pairings afterwards. I like Joe B and Locker as announcers but one thing they consistently fail to do is notice when a player is no longer taking shifts usually do an injury. The Caps defense dropped a notch after Poti left and Locker as the color man should have been more observant.

Posted by: Monty | February 14, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Ct.

I'd have a hard time with giving the winning team in OT 3 points. Unless you made regulation wins 3.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I found this poem on the internert. I convinced my wife i wrote it for her, she belived me and it got me out of buying her pricy roses. So I will share it with my fellow caps fans.

May your sig. other be a gullible as mine.....

When we first met, my dear, you gave me that look,
And from that first moment, my poor heart was hooked,
I thought it would pass, but that wasn't the case,
You cut into my heart with a high-stick to its face.


I still wasn't prepared for how smitten I'd be,
When you crippled my heart with a good knee-to-knee,
And I couldn't have known it was true love I'd find,
But you boarded my heart with a hit from behind.


So now my poor heart sits on Injured Reserve,
With concussions and injuries it hardly deserves,
Its career might be over, but I still have to mention,
I'll love you, my dear, for your entire suspension

Posted by: Genotype55 | February 14, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Nice. Last stanza is a little awkward, though.

Posted by: Jordan | February 14, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Klepis, better yet a trade:

My concern is that next to Semin, no one can score on our second line, so teams key on the first line. If the Caps play Kovlov on the second line, then the Caps limit themselves even more because Kovlov is a bette RW than Center. With Nylander, the Caps would be MUCH improved. With Clark the Caps would be MUCH improved (but not as much because the 2nd line needs a pivot who can handle the puck and dish the puck to Semin and Clark). My first choice is a trade for a veteran center in the twilight of his career looking for one last rush to the Cup. Some centers as such are also UFA's who teams will probably deal more easily than someone tied up in a contract for next year. So the Caps can jettison Eminger, Pettinger, and Erksine (please) and a pick for a veteran who may not be happy in a town, with a coach, in a slump, whatever. My second choice is to call a center from Hershey, but their centers are no better than Gordon, Steckel, and Laich -- all good grinders who can't find the twine at the back of the net and don't have great vision/soft hands. Kelpis at least has good vision and good hands. I know he is playing in Europe, but the Caps own his rights.

The Caps have the worst goal differential between their first scorer (OV @ 48) and their second goal scorer (Green @ 15 and on D). If the Caps want to win the SE, they have to have another line to support OV-Backstrom-Kovlov, oh, and score on the PP

Posted by: JIM | February 14, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

JIM

So, from the following list, who do you want?

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/freeagents.php?team=none&pos=C&status=ufa&type=capnumber

I don't see anyone on there that wouldn't cost us an arm/leg to get, want to leave their successful team or would actually improve our team. Prospal from TB could be an option. TB needs to get cheap and young fast.

Speaking of names on the list. Is it just me or is Bobby Holik the ugliest active NHLer? He reminds me of Sloth from the Goonies.

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

New Blog Post!

Posted by: FFS Enough | February 14, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Holy crap Jim (or should I say, Jakub's dad?), let it go. Klepis SUCKED here. If we are going to replace one suck forward (Pettinger, Fleischmann despite what they think), then don't bring in another suck forward. Try out some of the kids - Bourque, Andrew Gordon. Who was the guy at training camp - French-Canadian name, looked great - name started with a "B" I think? He's not on the Bear's roster...

Posted by: alpca3877 | February 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

How are you a cheater if you watch film? Illegal film - okay, you cheat... but watching film is all part of the game - Manning is a freak at watching film - is he a cheater?

All I am asking is if the Caps (or hockey teams) watch as much film as other sports.

Posted by: 828 | February 14, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I know that Locker has said that they watched a lot more film under Hanlon than under BB. Mike Green has said he feels better when he doesnt watch too much because then he is overthinking instead of just playing.

In hockey, you should be prepared but since it is such a fast-paced game you can definately get into a position where you are overthinking or overanalyzing if you go too much into the details.

Posted by: cs | February 14, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Alpca - You're likely thinking of Francois Bouchard?

Posted by: Whiter Mage | February 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

@Whiter Mage

Thank you!! That was driving me crazy all evening - I don't have my training camp roster anymore.

Posted by: alpca3877 | February 15, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

re film:

It strikes that film could be useful in looking at set plays and common practices. I've never played at the pro level, but in my various youth/high school days we would watch a little film from time to time and the coach would say "Watch how #68 likes to slip behind the D", or "12 and 15 like to do low crossing passes here," etc. Kind of minimal usefulness on given play, since the play was fluid, but as a D, I might keep my eye out for a known cherry picker or watch for the pass between two guys that always like to pass at certain spot.

For shootouts, however, you would think watching some film of shootout moves would be really helpful for goalies, especially, since guys seem to have favorite moves. Similarly, watching some film of goalies who have weak sides (Olie, I'm looking at your blocker...) might also be helful for shooters.

We only played teams once or twice a season, so you didn't really get to know certain teams. But in the NHL, you would think that by now the Caps know what kind of aftershave every guy in the SE division wears, let alone what moves they make.

Posted by: old time hockey | February 15, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

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