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Prospect Charged With Disorderly Conduct

Joe Finley, one of the prospects I profiled during development camp last week, was arrested in North Dakota early Tuesday morning along with a teammate and charged with disorderly conduct, according to this story in the Grand Forks Herald.

From the article:

A former UND hockey player and a current one were arrested about 3 a.m. Tuesday after a campus officer saw the men throwing cups, plates, a kitchen table and a lawnmower onto a Grand Forks street, UND Police Lt. Dan Lund said.
Joe Finley, 22, and Matt Frattin, 21, are both charged with disorderly conduct. In addition, Frattin faces a fleeing charge and Finley faces a charge of giving false information to officers. All the charges are misdemeanors.

Finley, a 6-foot-7 first-round draft pick in 2005, was moved from defense to forward in development camp and could have a future as a tough winger/agitator in Washington. He's expected to spend next season in Hershey.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  July 22, 2009; 7:58 AM ET
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And not charged with stealing? Who throws their own lawnmower out into the street?!

Wacky kids.

Posted by: megatroll1 | July 22, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

sounds like a big misunderstanding. i think those guys were trying to get an early start on moving out of their place. ok, so they didnt have a truck just then but probably cause the rental place isnt open at 3 am.

at least finley didnt flee...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 22, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

What else is there to do in ND?

Posted by: NFeKPo | July 22, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Ahhh, the maturation process of a future tough winger/agitator in the NHL! It's making me all teary-eyed just typing this. Now we just need to teach the kid how to channel his enthusiam and vent all his energy on the likes of "Crosby" and "Malkin". No more "Lawnmower", please!

Posted by: JohnWWW | July 22, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

I like his fire...

I mean..who here can honestly say they didnt throw a lawnmower and plates onto the front lawn in college? I know I did...In fact..I took a bat to a microwave...

Posted by: SA-Town | July 22, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Off in the distance a whinny voice was heard saying "like it or lump it, that's what he does. Some people like it, some people don't. Personally, I don't like it."

Posted by: NFeKPo | July 22, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Is it Finely or Finley? :)

Either way, any player that chucks lawnmowers around for fun is exactly the type of player that we need.

Posted by: writered21 | July 22, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

The marketing and charity options are endless.

Joe Finleys charity can hold a plate chucking expo off the Acela Club balcony after a game...$5 a plate...

Posted by: SA-Town | July 22, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

NFeKPo- it's early, but that's gotta be the post of the day!

you can alse hear don cherry talk about how canadian kids wouldnt throw lawnmowers and back in the day players had consideration for their neighbors and wouldnt throw dishware until after noon...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 22, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how many cases of beer it takes Finley to get drunk enough to do that.

Probably zero.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 22, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

I bet you Tony Esposito will have some stories today about throwing plates and trash in the old days. He will probably tell you they did skeet shooting off the balcony of a New York City high rise..

Posted by: SA-Town | July 22, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

If he's throwing a push mower out in the street he's still a prospect. If he's pitchin a riding mower he's ready for the NHL! I wonder if it was a Deere!

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 22, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I can just hear Crosby now:

"Well, it was okay after the first wave of lawnmowers. But then it stopped for a bit and then started again, like a second wave. It's like they were going to the souvenir stands and buying MORE lawnmowers. I really wish the refs had done something about it sooner so we could've started playing hockey again."

Posted by: SmallZ827 | July 22, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Sidney Crosby has the dumbest quotes ever. Who says "like it or lump it?"

Anyway, Finley seemed really mature in his interview during development camp. This is suprising. I'm just happy it wasn't John Carlson.

Posted by: rachel216 | July 22, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Youthfull exuberance? If he wants a spot here, he'll need to tone that way down. GMGM doesn't like that kind of publicity. If you don't have him in your corner, you're not going far in the Caps org. He'd better learn that real quick!

Posted by: Greg S. | July 22, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

this is one of the funnier post i have read in awhile.

having flashbacks of college

Posted by: _stevo | July 22, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Unless it was a riding lawnmower I'm not impressed.

Posted by: NFeKPo | July 22, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

At least they didn't pee to the Mike Tyson's swimming pool.

Posted by: CodePoetry | July 22, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

I hope Finley reads this - I'm betting he would appreciate the love right about now! lol!! I wonder if the fans will do something with this when he's called up? Hmm ...

HA! Too funny. :-D

So Johnny going to the Pens suddenly means he's not a great guy? Whatever dude.

Bravo to everyone who gave Johnny a little TLC yesterday - he deserves a respectful send-off.

Posted by: Boo- | July 22, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

After a long night of cow tipping, what are you supposed to do? Takes a while to unwind and tossing a few things seemed like the right thing to do.

Posted by: _Mark | July 22, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

New Nicknames 'lawnboy', 'greenskeeper', 'Happy', 'El Toro', 'lawndart',

I do smell a promotion(lawn mower tossing, like midget tossing but more human) and give away (rock the red toro shirts)
or silent auction item 'have big Joe mow your lawn'.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | July 22, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Is it wrong that I spent the time laughing as I was reading the article in the Grand Forks Herald.

Truth is always stranger than fiction. How the heck can you make up this stuff? They "routinely destroy each others things"????

Posted by: MikeL-Caps91 | July 22, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

And FTR, I don't care that they were throwing lawnmowers and stuff around. I could see that as a "Hammer Throw" type of event in the pastures of ND. Just don't get arrested for it.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 22, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Emailed my bro the article- below is his reply:

His new nickname is definitely going to be "The Lawnmower Man".
I've been waiting for 15 years to use that as a sports nickname - thank you Joey Finley!!!

Posted by: Fro_ | July 22, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I wish it was October.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 22, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm wondering if he turned the mower on and threw it over the balcony to see if it could fly. Like a physics or engineering experiment. Does the blade create enough lift to hover in the air. If not, I'm disappointed. Anyone can chuck a mower over a balcony.

Posted by: puckman | July 22, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I don't give TLC to hockey players. You must be a female.

Posted by: tmac2yao | July 22, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

smallZ827 - hilarious.

I can't saw that I am not encouraged by this type of behavior. This guy is supposed to have a "mean streak". I hope he fights well. We can always use a good replacement for Brash.

Posted by: MeatSweats | July 22, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

The lawnmower man sounds like a great nickname to me.

Posted by: caps512 | July 22, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I hope he makes better decisions on the ice than he does off of it.

Posted by: hockeyweasel | July 22, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: doughless | July 22, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I think he's just following a tradition started by the American hockey team in the Olympics a few years ago.

Actually, the way the piece is written, it comes across like the opening scene from "Cool Hand Luke," where Luke had to practice good behavior after getting drunk and chopping the heads off parking meters.

I hope there aren't any characters in Finley's future named "Boss" or "Captain."

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 22, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Does this mean he's now on 'Double Secret probation'? ; )

Posted by: fauxrumors | July 22, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

“It was their own property, so there was nobody’s property that was damaged other than their own,” Police Lt. Dan Lund said. “They said they just kind of routinely destroy each other’s stuff.”

Don't ya know...........

Posted by: WhyGo | July 22, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

BTW, I think giving false information to law enforcement is a felony. Any lawyers out there?

You have to give them your name, birthdate and address. You don't have to answer any questions. Anything you say "Can and will be used against you." Evidently he said something false. I learned about this when one of my daughter's acquaintences hit a parked car after drinking and then lied and said it wasn't him driving because his car had been stolen. Apparently, his picture was on video at the scene of the accident. So they slapped about six charges on him. Don't know what was the outcome, maybe he gets to wear an striped, orange jacket and work on the side of the road now.

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 22, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Everyone bring your lawnmowers for Finley's first game as a Cap. If he scores, you know what to do...

Posted by: Moose33 | July 22, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Channeling Austin Powers: Who throws a lawnmower, seriously?

Posted by: oldtimehockey | July 22, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I see a TORO commercial in his future!

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | July 22, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I hope they do move him to forward...can't wait for his first Hat Trick. Calling Crate & Barrel now to order more plates.

Gotta love all the Caps fans here today. We can laugh together and we can cry together. Right now, I'm doing both.

Posted by: Caps16Fan | July 22, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

How many of you out there can pick up and throw a lawnmower? It's hard as he!! to fold it up and then lift it enough to get it in the back of the mini-wagon. Course, it doesn't say if it was an overhead toss of just a lift up and flip.

Maybe in the story above it was "filing a false police report" that was a felony. Maybe as Tarik says the giving false info is a misdemeanor.

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 22, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

A-HA! His friend is from Canada furthering proving that the Canadians are a bunch of trouble-makers devoted to the Capitals' downfall. *snicker* There's no excusing his behavior but you gotta' admit, it's a little funny. Oh, to be young and foolish again!

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 22, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Why is the lawnmower and plates getting all the love? The guy threw a kitchen table as well which might be the most impressive depending on the size of said table.

My theory is that Finley and the other guy just lost a game of beer pong so he threw the cups and table off the balcony. The lawnmower was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Posted by: Moose33 | July 22, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Tominfl1, I believe you have the right to remain silent, you don't have to speak at all! That in mind, not a good Idea to not give your name to the police. If you take that route, be prepared to spend time in jail as you will most definitely get arrested.

The absolute worst thing you can do is try and talk you way out of something, hence the right to remain silent.

No, I am not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.... ;)

Posted by: hbcapsfan | July 22, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

It's July, gives people something to talk about and as someone said, Finley may = Brash next year, but with some upside, but he has to go to MMA reform school first.

Posted by: RichC3 | July 22, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA this is amazing. Seriously, thank you Finley!!! After all this Johnson gloom and doom (I get he had to find a good deal for himself.. but THERE? ugh), this is exactly what we needed. Great comments guys... happy this board is back to being a place i like to visit :)

Anyone else love the fact that we have a lumberjack and a groundskeeper?

Posted by: mrszilla | July 22, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

tominfl1: giving a credit card to an investigating officer is not official Id and you are not being officially questioned yet. So it is easy to say I was just messing around, etc. and get the charge dropped. (not so easy in a hit and run while dui)

if he would have presented an officail Id like another's license or other state/fed ID then there would be more to hold him to. 1) Easier to justify the charge of bearing false witness and 2) possession of false ID

Once mirandized and officially being questioned if he continued his bs story then he would/could be slapped with a higher charge.

It could also be a carry over law where the initial offense is a misd so the carry over lying is a misd.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | July 22, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Zamboni is next- watch out lower bowl and club level...

Posted by: Fro_ | July 22, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse


also, in the case you cited the evidence may have seemed a bit weak on the major offense of hit and run while dui so to get a plea, the d.a. will add a bunch of charges to get a guilty plea and the state will drop all but the hit and run with 1year all but 12 days suspended 3 years proby and 1 year of weekly/biweekly AA and 12 weeks counseling.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | July 22, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

'Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.'

'Can't I have two out of three?'

Posted by: Lukashenko | July 22, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

He's not a college student any more so he shouldn't be hanging around campus. He obviously had a less than stellar camp since the big news on him was that he was moved to forward. He better figure out pretty quick if he wants to play in the NHL because there are too many prospects, especially guys that will only make it to the show as an enforcer, to deal with a college graduate that is doing stupid stuff around campus at 3am when he's not even a student anymore.

If this was a story on Carlson, I would be fine with that because he's only 19. Finley is 22, time to grow up. Like it or not, pro hockey players are on the clock 24hrs a day.

Posted by: fanohock1 | July 22, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse


i love the fact that we have a lumberjack and groundskeeper on the team

Posted by: _stevo | July 22, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

It's North Dakota. Not much else happens in them rectangular states.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 22, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Joe Finley: 6'7", 245lbs. (give or take a few), 22 yrs. old, mean, aggressive, sticks up for teammates. He can't get to Washington fast enough. Me thinks we found a decent replacement for Brashear. Getting excited.

Posted by: capsfan01 | July 22, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Tell you why I love hockey... because the kid's misconduct rap involves throwing housewares out his window. Inebriated rural exuberance is his problem.

He is not a pimp. He is not running a dog killing ring. He didn't shoot anybody at "The Club." He is not selling crack.


Anybody with even a hint of moral indignance over this kid's rap can cram it. The only kind of person who would moralize over this would probably also a big fan of nfl football and a conspicuous churchgoer.

This is not news.

Posted by: large23220 | July 22, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I am, but there is nothing wrong with giving players a little TLC, regardless. Haven't you ever heard of a mancrush? There are plenty of those on this blog.

Posted by: Boo- | July 22, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

large23220 just explained pretty much why I love hockey and don't really care about any other sports.

I have the biggest mancrush on Nicky, btw.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 22, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Also making the news in North Dakota that same evening:

14 mailboxes sustained damage overnight.

several bags of dried corn cobs were stolen from the back of a pickup truck.

a missing hunting dog turned up safe and sound at the home of the owners ex-girlfriend.

crop circles were discovered in a rural section of the county, they appeared to form a large phallus-like image.

Posted by: WhyGo | July 22, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse


If he comes to the DC area, it might be a bit harder to poo-poo antics of this sort.

Better live and learn, pardner. Emphasis on the LEARN.

Posted by: WhyGo | July 22, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse


The crop circle in ND (phallus-like) were noted to be pointing the business end towards Pittsburgh. No further explanation is forthcoming.

Posted by: WhyGo | July 22, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

To borrow a line from Ron White...He had the right to remain silent, but he didn't have the ability...

Posted by: nimrodrsp | July 22, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

This is just too funny...I bet his are so proud! I miss those days, while I didn't throw lawnmowers, I did blow up cans I need a new mower Joe...any chance you can throw me one?

Posted by: NatyBG | July 22, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

@ WhyGo.

From a moral perspective, I don't see any difference at all between doing the late-night lawnmower toss in your front yard, whether your front yard is in the suburbs of Minot or the suburbs of DC. Neither one is news.

From a safety perspective, however, I hope young Mr. Finley does refrain from country antics in the future. Because, he's on his way to the big club, and if he tries to steal a bag of corncobs from a DC resident's truck, they will shoot him in the face 17 times and dump him in the Anacostia.

Posted by: large23220 | July 22, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Joe Finley: 6'7", 245lbs. (give or take a few), 22 yrs. old, mean, aggressive, sticks up for teammates. He can't get to Washington fast enough. Me thinks we found a decent replacement for Brashear. Getting excited.

Posted by: capsfan01 | July 22, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I don't think he'll ever be a "tough" guy by nhl standards. I think he'll be a more physical version of Hal Gill at best. He's a big guy and he likes to mix it up but he's just not a fighter-type and he doesn't have a history or much experience dropping the gloves. Anyone who saw him try to go with Paul Bissonette last year could see how green and inexperienced he was, he had no idea how to grab another fighter's jersey and hold him off or even hold his balance on his skates while throwing a punch. Bissonette who gives up 4 or 5 inches to Finley had an easy time pulling the jersey over Joe's head and controling him.
Methinks even a player like Bradley would have a field day with big Joe. And since the Caps don't really encourage their prospects to develop their pugilistic skills, Joe's going to want to play that role in the nhl and do it on his own. If he'd come up thru the junior ranks then he'd be better equipped to handle himself on the ice.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 22, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

1) I am a Caps fan

2) I also enjoy watching the Penguins... Watching them LOSE, that is.

I root for:
1) The Caps
2) The Caps
3) The Caps
4) The Flames (except when they play the Caps)
5) The Leafs (again, except when they play the Caps), and
6) Whomever's playing the Penguins.

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 22, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Finley's a goon-in-training.

Posted by: C-way | July 22, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Whenever I hear the phrase "fleeing from the cops", I am always reminded of the great Reno 911 clip.

"I am wearing Boots of Escaping!"

Posted by: FusilliJerry1 | July 22, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

CStanton; thanks for the reply. Maybe Finley won't be an outright enforcer or maybe he will step up to the plate and the Caps' organization will allow it bec we don't have a replacement for the Donald yet. Either way he is tough and I'm glad to see us get another guy who isn't going to be pushed around. If we add a little more of that to the roster we'll be just fine.

Posted by: capsfan01 | July 22, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Finley also tipped over my Volvo :(


Posted by: fridgey | July 22, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Any time you run from cops, it looks bad and irritates the cops. Any time you make any type of misrepresentation to cops, like giving them someone else's credit card when they ask for ID, it looks bad and irritates the cops (besides being possibly a crime in itself). The guy just made himself look like an idiot.

Posted by: KWall1 | July 22, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Agee with KWall1. It is the running from the police and then giving false ID that was a really dumb move.

Posted by: NovaCath | July 22, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

hahahahahahaha I can't freakin wait for this kid he's CRAZY! And anyone giving him crap for this should seriously think back to their college summers because I for one can't say I made too many smart decisions when I was 22.

Posted by: dcfury | July 22, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious to me what really happened. They got high and got into an argument over whether a lawn mower can fly.

Posted by: ranndino | July 23, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Whoever said above that Finley doesn't know how to fight... He doesn't have to. He'll just throw a kitchen table at the opponent. If that doesn't work a lawn mower is next.

Posted by: ranndino | July 23, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

This dude rocks.

Posted by: bobbyp0923 | July 27, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

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