TV: NBC Extension, Post-Olympic Plans Shelved?

Wait wait...they were going to try to play outdoors on the Mall in March?

So I suppose the Olympic Stadium venue is official? Or not?

Still not official.

Its tough to tell whether I hate the Pens or NBC Hockey Coverage more...

Still talking about the RFAs and QOs...

From Ted's bog today;
"We believe - over time - that he, Karl Alzner, Mike Green and Jeff Schultz are forming a very good core of young D men."

Schultz gets the nod..

Can we quit with this "Stanley Cup Final" nonsense? Regardless of what Bettman says, the proper name has been "Stanley Cup Finals" for decades. There's no need for the media to kowtow to Bettman's improper version.

First NBC picks Flyers over Caps for the Winter Classic, then kills this idea as well?

For a network that pays zero rights to broadcast the NHL, NBC seems to have an unusual amount of power over Bettman & Co.

Its tough to tell whether I hate the Pens or NBC Hockey Coverage more...

Posted by: jdhoover | July 15, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

No need to pick. The Pens, Bettman & Company and NBC hockey = the axis of evil.

Schultz needs to play next year in Hershey if he's back with the team.

Yeah, I wish I knew why everyone in the organization is thrilled about Schultz. I mean.. he's okay I guess, but nothing special. It's like they talk him up hoping that he'll have an awakening ala Mike Green.

He's got 15 minutes to take his QO.

I think that Schultz is looking around and sees Carlson, who hasn't played a single NHL game, is making over $100K more than he is. He also sees Sexy with 1.25M, ShaMo at 1.9M and sez, "Hmmm. Everyone that counts says I'm good and getting better and will be the core of the D-men. I should be doing better."

His minimum QO is around $765,000

If he doesn't take it, he's UFA. Did Fehr and Helmer take theirs? I can't remember...

Fehr hasn't, that I know of. Helmer signed a long time ago.

good call by nbc. wouldnt want to interrupt their typicall post nfl weekend slate of bull riding and infomercials for a game on the national freaking mall featuring two of the top players in the league. they could do a sunday afternoon game...meet the press w/ ted leonsis and mario lemieux. get ov to cross check chris matthews into the boards. then roll into the game. wonder why they are last in ratings?

Thanks.

Time's almost up...

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

5 PM and Schultz is UFA.

Wooooowwwww ... that would have been cool!

I'm pretty surprised no one is talking about the scrimmage down at Kettler

Bye bye Schultz and Fehr, unless for some weird reason we sign them as UFAs even though they did not file arbitration.

That clears around 1.6 I guess off the "reserved for RFAs" list. Does that fit BMo, ShaMo, and everyone else comfortably? tom? greg?

Super, Get on TEB twitter. He had sent out 5 or 6 updates.

Last update I got to my cell was that Della Rovere hurt his should and hasn't returned.

Super, Just got another, Carlson scores on Rebound. Team A holding on 3-2.

comfortably? not by my reckoning. If Carlson plays for the Caps this season (and it's sounding that way), he'll hit us for $845K which is more than Schultz's WITH the 110% increase minimum.

Here's my guess with help from capgeek.com:

Alexander Ovechkin — $9,538,461
Michael Nylander — $4,875,000
Alexander Semin — $4,600,000
Mike Knuble — $2,800,000
Chris Clark — $2,633,333
Nicklas Backstrom ($1,650,000) $2,400,000
Brooks Laich — $2,066,666
Brendan Morrison — $1,500,000
Matt Bradley — $1,000,000
Jay Beagle ($187,500) $875,000
Boyd Gordon — $761,250
Dave Steckel — $725,000
Tomas Fleischmann — $725,000
* Chris Bourque — $633,000
Keith Aucoin — $487,500
DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green — $5,250,000
Tom Poti — $3,500,000
Brian Pothier — $2,500,000
* Shaone Morrisonn — $1,975,000
Karl Alzner ($800,000) $1,675,000
John Erskine — $1,250,000
John Carlson — $845,833
Sean Collins — $650,000
Tyler Sloan — $640,000
GOALTENDERS
Jose Theodore — $4,500,000
Simeon Varlamov — $821,666
BUYOUTS
Ben Clymer — $366,667
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE 26
SALARY CAP $56,800,000
PAYROLL $59,594,376
BONUSES $2,637,500
CAP SPACE $-156,876

Yeah, but that is with us carrying 15 forwards and 9 d men. Some of those contracts will not hit against the Cap.

Super, Team A wins 5-2 with Dubuc getting a empty netter for the Hat Trick.

True enough. That's what training camp will decide.

Of course, for all we know they signed. It'd be nice if our Caps beat reporter would let us know what the #$%T&&Y@#*($U@*$_(% was going on!!! :)

Are we sure that they are UFA now?

They don't become UFA if they don't accept their qualifying offers. They can negotiate with other clubs as well as the Caps, but they still remain RFA.

So looks like we've got another situation like last year, either way. Not a lot of space to work with, but a much better team. We gained everything we lost, and then some.

The caps have matching rights I believe and/or compensatory picks.

That's what I thought. So would we still get compensation if they sign somewhere else or do we just get the right to match the deal?

We get compensation if they sign somewhere else.

I hope Della Rovere will be alright for tomorrow. He certainly takes his knocks.

That's what I thought. So would we still get compensation if they sign somewhere else or do we just get the right to match the deal?

Posted by: pkendrick

We would get compensation, but what depends on how much the offer sheet is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnE_cBLPYJI

LOL.

Am I missing something. I made a spreadsheet and this is what it gave me for our roster based on who is signed right now.

Ovi 9,538,462
Nyls 4,875,000
Semin 5,000,000
BMo 1,500,000
Clark 2,633,333
Knuble 2,800,000
Nicky 2,400,000
Laich 2,066,667
Bradley 1,000,000
Flash 725,000
Gordon 761,250
Steckel 725,000
Clymer 366,667

Green 5,250,000
Poti 3,500,000
Pothier 2,500,000
Alzner 1,675,000
SMo 1,975,000
Erskine 1,250,000

Theo 4,500,000
Varly 821,667

Total Cap Hit 55,863,046
Cap Space3 936,954

I guess you add Bourque or Aucoin to that list and that eats up the rest of the cap right?

No need to pick. The Pens, Bettman & Company and NBC hockey = the axis of evil.

Posted by: mrszilla | July 15, 2009 4:39 PM

@mrszilla:

Well Said!

I do not believe that the Caps would receive compensatory picks for Fehr or Schultz if they signed elsewhere. I don't see where they are RFA's after 5 pm on 7/15 per the CBA.

pkendrick

This is what I used (FWIW).

http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator.php?Team=30

Ok but looking at Capgeek it does not take into account the bonuses paid which do count against the cap right? I know they can be pushed back until next year but do we really want them doing that?

I do not believe that the Caps would receive compensatory picks for Fehr or Schultz if they signed elsewhere. I don't see where they are RFA's after 5 pm on 7/15 per the CBA.

Posted by: Greg S

The whole reason behind giving them qualifying offers was to keep their rights and be able to receive compensation should they be signed to offer sheets. If the Caps really didn't want those two players they wouldn't have extended the QOs in the first place. Let me look up the CBA and find the relevant passage

Are we sure that they are UFA now?

Posted by: pkendrick | July 15, 2009 5:18 PM

Here's an explanation regarding the status of RFAs who don't accept the qualifying offers ( http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=518123 ):

Once a team makes an RFA a Qualifying Offer (whether it is accepted or not), the team keeps the players rights until he either signs with the team, signs an Offer Sheet with some other team (and his original team declines to match), qualifies as a Group III or Group VI UFA, or his team renounces its rights and removes him from its Reserve List.

The relevant part of the CBA is Section 10.2 and basically it says that QOs expire on July 15. But it doesn't say anything about those players becoming UFAs. The club that owns the RFA's rights has to tender him a QO before June 30 OR he becomes a UFA, maybe that's what you're thinking of. In order for a player to become a UFA he'd have to fall into one of the UFA categories: Group 3 (older than 31), Group 5 (completed more than 10 professional seasons) or Group 6 (older than 25 and 3 pro seasons)

I didn't really get anything out of that thread (nothing showed up about the RFA and lapsed QO's. It seems to defeat the purpose of having a deadline, however. What meaning does the 5pm 7/15 timeline have if after it lapses the team would still get the draft picks, and would be able to match an offer sheet? that's the same conditions they had before the deadline.

Via Twitter:

TarikElBashir: Schultz did not accept his qualifying offer. Fehr did

Well, moot point

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=284769

According to TSN, TEB's wrong. Schultz and the Caps signed.

You had to figure they would all be back.

Just posted from TEB Twitter:

Schultz remains a RFA, but the Q.O. is off the table. Fehr will earn $771,750.

Well either Tarik is wrong or TSN is wrong about Schultz. I mean if it were ESPN reporting that Schultz re-signed then we all know they would be wrong but I figured TSN would be more on the ball.

@GregS:

The point of the deadline, as I see it, is that now the team and player have to negotiate a new contract. The QO is the first offer made by the team. On July 15 that offer expires. Now they can offer him a lower, or higher deal. I think that happened a few years ago when an arbitrator gave Witt less than his QO. Basically it's just better to have firm deadlines to deal with

Also, this was just posted on the caps website. It does not mention Schultz

http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=442811

clearly TSN did not get it right - they spelled 'defenceman' wrong :)
GMGM better have something up his sleeve in the way of a trade - too many people too much money committed. as long as he has two contracts and about 3M to work with at the deadline - i'll be happy

its a problem that we take our second biggest cap hit on someone who played in only three playoff games...