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Posted at 3:32 PM ET, 11/30/2010

Scott Hannan expects to 'fit in right away' with Caps

By Katie Carrera

George McPhee acknowledged that the Capitals have been looking for a veteran, stay-at-home type defenseman for "three or four years" and the initial reaction is that Scott Hannan fits Washington's need for more experience in its own end precisely.

Hannan might not be a bone-crushing presense, but he's solid and responsible in his own end and adds more experience to a Capitals defense that includes four players 25 years old or younger. He might not be the fastest skater (as the Denver Post's Adrian Dater noted earlier today), but the Capitals won't look for him to lead the rush, either.

He won't cost Washington opportunities by taking many penalties, either. Through 23 games this season Hannan has just six penalty minutes, and in 81 contests during the 2009-10 campaign with the Avalanche he only tallied 40.

He'll likely be part of the Captials' penalty kill -- Hannan led Colorado with an average of 3:21 minutes of ice time while shorthanded -- and expect to see him blocking shots frequently. Hannan blocked at least 144 shots in each of the past three seasons and he has a reputation for being durable and willing to play through a lot of pain.

While it will undoubtedly take time to see how he meshes with the rest of the Capitals, on the surface Hannan appears to be exactly the type of player Washington was looking for. And knowing that his best attributes are what the Capitals need makes it an easier transition for Hannan.

"My style of game hasn't changed too much from what it's been in San Jose or what it's been in Colorado," Hannan said. "I've been counted on to be a defensive player and to kill penalties and to play against other teams' top lines.... Washington, I'm excited about playing there, obviously, with a bunch of great talented players and I expect to fit in. I expect to be put in a defensive role there -- I don't think they'll change that up too much."

"You like being on a team where you know you can fit in right away with something the team wants," Hannan said of his skill set. "I've played that [defensive] role on many other teams, I look forward and relish the fact that I get a chance to do that on a team like Washington."

As for Hannan's reputation of being durable -- he missed just two games in his three years and change with the Avalanche -- McPhee said it was a fair assessment.

"Particularly for the amount of shots he blocks and the way he plays," McPhee said when asked whether he thought Hannan was durable. "He does a good job in front of the net, he's a physically strong guy, he doesn't run over people a lot -- he will when he has to. It's just about getting position in front of the net and not letting anybody get to the net for tips and rebounds and that sort of thing, and keeping the shots to the outside."

Hannan said during a conference call with media members that the first he heard of the trade was on Monday when Colorado approached him about waiving his no-trade clause. He also said he spoke briefly with Matt Hendricks, who played with the Avalanche last year, and already received a message from Alex Ovechkin.

By Katie Carrera  | November 30, 2010; 3:32 PM ET
Categories:  George McPhee, Scott Hannan  
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Comments

And the Caps still have the opportunity and cap room to add another defender at the trade deadline as well.

I guess Barry Melrose will be upset that Washington acquired a defenseman.

I bet he was expecting the Caps to acquire another scorer down the line instead.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | November 30, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope Bieska didnt already enroll his kids in school here. :)

I kid i kid.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

So what are all the caps fans who spent hunderds of $$$ on Fleischmann jerseys going to do now?

Posted by: LesGrossman | November 30, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

@LesGrossman: So what are all the caps fans who spent hunderds of $$$ on Fleischmann jerseys going to do now?

Toilet paper?
Confetti?

Posted by: pcalver1 | November 30, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

So what are all the caps fans who spent hunderds of $$$ on Fleischmann jerseys going to do now?

Posted by: LesGrossman | November 30, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't think there are that many of those, Les!

Posted by: jwash4472 | November 30, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

From what I see at Verizon Center, there are quite a few owners of Fleischmann jerseys.

Posted by: LesGrossman | November 30, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm interested in how Hannan compares to Willie Mitchell, who ideally would have been the shut-down D-man the Caps could have signed without losing Flash.

Posted by: SimonGuggenheim | November 30, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Simon,

You mean the Willie Mitchell who has only played in 13 of LA's 23 games so far this season....? I'd say Hannan is a little more durable, no?

Posted by: Steve_R | November 30, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

@SimonGuggenheim

Mitchell wanted, and got, a two year deal. The Caps did not want to give that sort of commitment, especially with all the pending UFAs. Since Mitchell wasn't willing to take the 1-year deal, a comparison of which would be better is irrelevant as Mitchell couldn't be had for a 1-year deal.

Posted by: sgm3 | November 30, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Flash jersey owners are ok, they won't take up seats in playoffs since they don't seem to show up.

or ...

They can hang out with all the Varly 40 jersey owners.

Posted by: flee001 | November 30, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

How many stanley cups did that guy win? We need a guy with experience, but not with -21 +/- rating two years ago. Okay move, but hard to believe that this defense can win us Stanley Cup
Green-Shultz
Poti-Alzner
Carlson-Hannan

#4 is our 7th d

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | November 30, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope Bieska didnt already enroll his kids in school here. :)

I kid i kid.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse
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LMFAO!!!!!!! Funniest f'in post of the day!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | November 30, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it but the Caps didn't lose too much in Flash. He wasn't too much of an offensive presence, hell he could barely stay on his skates. Not sure if anyone has noticed but as soon as someone would come near Flash, he would either cough up the puck or fall down. I think the more Flash played the more BB saw that he didn't fit in. Sounds to me like this trade will better prepare the team for the physical style play in the playoffs.

Posted by: capsfanNtheATL | November 30, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate

Gotta win that first cup, not every name on the Cup is a repeat. Lets see what happens with this guy.

Posted by: flee001 | November 30, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

How many stanley cups did that guy win? We need a guy with experience, but not with -21 +/- rating two years ago. Okay move, but hard to believe that this defense can win us Stanley Cup
Green-Shultz
Poti-Alzner
Carlson-Hannan

#4 is our 7th d

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | November 30, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse
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Hannan is not a 5-6 Dman. He is a 2-3Dman.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | November 30, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

@before - I share your overall skepticism. But, just curious - it looks like you have Carlson on your 3rd-pairing, but on many nights he's led the team in TOI, sometimes even when Green's been healthy. I'd also say he's our most responsible d-man as of now, given his #'s and his defensive assignments most nights. Just not sure how that translates to a 3rd-pairing, unless I'm reading something wrong.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | November 30, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate

the -21 from 2 years ago can be explained by the dreadul team they had 2 years ago. They had the third pick in the draft that years so they were pretty bad.

Also, what about the line combos? without flash on the third line I think we need to spread the scoring around. Although he was not very good, and he overachieved, he provided better offense than boyd gordon will.

I'm hoping the lines will be:

8-19-22
21-90-28
25-15-16
26-39-10

This of course is with the forwards we have know. I think for the time being we should call up perreault for the 3C and rotate gordon/steckel/peerault as our 3rd and 4th line centers with gordon and steckel being scratched more than Peerault. I think we will need to trade for a 2nd/3rd line center at the deadline though.

Hannan will probably be paired with Poti which will give us 2 solid second caliber pairings and of course the number 1 pairing of green and schultz. Overall I think its a great move for both teams and IMO he sounds like a Rob Scuderi type player who was awesome in the playoffs for Pitt in 09 and was sorely missed last year.

Posted by: rockthered90 | November 30, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate

the -21 from 2 years ago can be explained by the dreadul team they had 2 years ago. They had the third pick in the draft that years so they were pretty bad.

Also, what about the line combos? without flash on the third line I think we need to spread the scoring around. Although he was not very good, and he overachieved, he provided better offense than boyd gordon will.

I'm hoping the lines will be:

8-19-22
21-90-28
25-15-16
26-39-10

This of course is with the forwards we have know. I think for the time being we should call up perreault for the 3C and rotate gordon/steckel/peerault as our 3rd and 4th line centers with gordon and steckel being scratched more than Peerault. I think we will need to trade for a 2nd/3rd line center at the deadline though.

Hannan will probably be paired with Poti which will give us 2 solid second caliber pairings and of course the number 1 pairing of green and schultz. Overall I think its a great move for both teams and IMO he sounds like a Rob Scuderi type player who was awesome in the playoffs for Pitt in 09 and was sorely missed last year.

Posted by: rockthered90 | November 30, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This is extremely good news.

Best of luck, Tomas. I know there are Flush haters, and I've taken my shots at him too, but I hope he finds a steady spot out there and does well. He's capable - we certainly saw "flashes" of brilliance (sorry!).

Welcome to town, Scott Hannan!

Posted by: EricinReston | November 30, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate

Also, from what I was reading, he steps it up big time in the playoffs. Which would be the opposite of your typical Caps player right? Caps play well in the season and then disappear come playoffs, isnt that the stereotype? So if this guy is eh to meh during the season, but brings his A game to the playoffs...wouldnt that be a positive change?

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

even with that -21 two years ago he is still a career plus 22. And that minus season was for an bad and mostly untalented team. He is also a career + in the playoffs so lets dwell on one season when the rest of the picture shows who he really is.

Posted by: mmclaughlin2 | November 30, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Hannan is not a 5-6 Dman. He is a 2-3Dman.
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While that may possibly have been true with SJ and in the era of clutch-and-grab, in a speed game I doubt that's true. As do Avs' followers who have studied him over the years, both before and after his arrival there.

The only way he's in the top-4 mix is if he's paired with Green or Carlson. Which, come to think of it, is a possibility. So maybe he's like a 4-5, how about that.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | November 30, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Most of the Flush haters/dislikers (myself and others) are not saying his is a bad player...just that he is a horrendous center but makes a decent wing. Only problem was, we didnt need him here for wing. And GMGM & BB tried to force him down our throats as being a good option for our 2C. Ergo the hate. I myself, and I am sure others like me, wish him well in Colo.

Moving him eliminates a bottleneck we had and I think will improve our overall lines greatly. Perhaps give Fehr his earned 2nd line minutes. Personally, Id like to see:

Ovie/Back/Seminator
Fehr/MaJo/Knubs
ChimChim/Laich/Hendricks
BFV/Stecks/Gordo/King

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | November 30, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone ask if Semin took a maintainence day re: his absence at this morning's practice or did I miss something among the trade talks?

Posted by: nicety251 | November 30, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

when i think of a #1 pair d (as far as defense is concerned) - i don't think of green/schultz, carlson/alzner or poti/erskine - i think of langway/engblom.

erskine & sloan/fahey would make a #4 - maybe

if they end up playing as 3 solid #2 pairings on d - i'll be happy

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 30, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

@SAOTI - well that makes sense, I for one could never understand the Flash hate while others who similarly underperformed in the playoffs got off scot-free [Schultz, Knuble, Laich] so thanks for the explanation.

While I am not quite as optimistic on Hannan as some others seem to be here ["he's a 2-3" someone said above - really? At barely 18 mins per game, on a non-playoff team?] I do hope Hannan will have a positive impact, especially if paired with the right guy.

And I join you in wishing Flash well, I wish it had gone better here but I think on the right team he could put up very good numbers.

I join you

Posted by: Timbo_1 | November 30, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

@SAOTI

Aside from my passion for smash-mouth hockey (I'd rather watch roller derby than figure skating), I have much respect for your opinions and I don't think we're all that different. That said, I haven't seen seen the same from Fehr this year("his earned 2nd line minutes), can you enlighten me as I think of Fehr in the same light as Flash?

Posted by: vermontcaps | November 30, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Timbo_1

Didn't really mean to put Carlson on 3rd line, just was putting lines together, BB will keep Shultz on first line no matter what :) imho ofcourse

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | November 30, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

even with that -21 two years ago he is still a career plus 22. And that minus season was for an bad and mostly untalented team. He is also a career + in the playoffs so lets dwell on one season when the rest of the picture shows who he really is.

Posted by: mmclaughlin2 | November 30, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

hmm, hello, he was in choking SJ for years, so it doesn't mean anything. Lets just all hope that we won't see Tyler Sloan in caps jersey this year anymore :)

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | November 30, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

@before - ah, now I see, just was wondering given how Carlson's been around 26 mins per game the last handful. But you're definitely right about BB and Schultz!

Posted by: Timbo_1 | November 30, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to Flash. If he's ever going to finally hit his stride and live up to the hype, I'd much rather it be out west. On the other hand, I wonder if he'll continue to be a "25 goal scorer" without one of the best offenses in the NHL setting him up.

Good move overall by GMGM. Hannan is no Lidstrom, but a reliable SAHD with veteran status, low PIMs, enough size to clear traffic and block shots when the postseason rolls around, and plenty of playoff experience is definitely something this team could use. Being stuck with a bottom-feeder team can kill just about anyone's stats. It'll be interesting to see if he gets his spark back. I don't think we really lost anything in Fleischmann that can't be compensated for with what we already have, so even if he sucks the Caps will be pretty much the same team they were yesterday - and still with plenty of cap room to shore things up at the deadline.

Posted by: ModestProposal | November 30, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Great move! At his best Hannan is a 3-4 D-man and at his worst is a 5-6, IMO. For our needs this is a solid trade and anyone stating otherwise, should probably watch more hockey(not just Caps games). I can't believe how many posters here don't know much about Hannan. That's not meant to be an insult to those of you who are new to the game and are trying to learn , but when I see a tool like joek say he doesn't know much about Hannan, with all the sh*t he talks about being a fan since whenever, all I can do is shake my head.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | November 30, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

To all the GMGM haters-would you like ice cream with your humble pie?

Posted by: AADCDERM | November 30, 2010 1:01 PM


@AADCDERM:

As anyone who has been here for a while will attest, I am far from being a hater of GMGM--indeed, I have often posted in his defense, if for no other reason than the fact that he is the Caps' General Manager, not I (nor any of us here at CI, for that matter).

That said, I think it may be premature to praise GMGM for the acquisition of a player who has yet to actually play for the Caps. Yes, I knew Fleischmann had to go, and wish him well in all his future efforts (except if he's playing againt the Caps, of course...heh-heh).

But I have to confess that--before today--I knew absolutely nothing about this Hannan guy, and I am (at this juncture) very disappointed that we didn't get BXӘ from Vancouver instead. I mean, Flash-for-BXӘ would have made sense for both teams in so many ways.

But with months to go before the trade deadline, the timing--if nothing else--was very good: If Hannan is good for us, he'll have ample time to acclimate to BB's systems and the overall team chemistry--if not, we won't be finding it out for the first time mere weeks before the playoffs start.

So, I am willing to wait and see...I guess we'll find out soon enough if this was the right move or not.

Posted by: Rhino40 | November 30, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

@funkyglovefacewash: "I can't believe how many posters here don't know much about Hannan."...........i, too, am amazed at how many posters here don't know who Hannan is. But in their defense, there's not a whole lot to know about Hannan. He's an upgrade over Sloan and Fahey for sure, but other than that he's yet another invisible, nice and responsible player to play on our backline

Posted by: vermontcaps | November 30, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Fleischmann is 26 and will be a free agent. He has benefited from playing with Semin, Laich and at times the guys on the top line for Washington.

I see Tomas as someone who is close to his ceiling in the NHL at the 20-25 goal level and Washington has several players with those numbers or better offensively.

If he had not been traded for Hannan, he would have been dealt before the deadline specifically because Washington didn't need his offense and didn't intend on resigning him in the offseason.

This was a pretty fair deal for a team that needed a veteran defenseman to advance in the postseason.

And with Marcus Johansson, Kuznetsov, Eakin, Galiev, etc. looking to become contributors in the next couple of years signing Fleischmann would have been a mistake.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | November 30, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

52-55
74-27
4-23
BB will not break up Green/Schultz and why should he? Carlzner need experience so, they should stay on the 2nd. Poti's groin is made of glass and Hannan needs to learn the system, they should be 3rd. 3 lines, each having an offensive and defensive member. 1 & 2 have L/R shot, 3 is L/L.

Posted by: chriscaps | November 30, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Rhino40, understand the sentiments but for a bunch of purported puckheads who even quote the Hershey Bears injury reports in their sleep, I am quite surprised peeps haven't heard about this guy.

I mean SJ & the Avs in the wild west on yoour resume as a top 4 d-man is nothing to sneeze at.

We could have gotten a lot less for Flash.
Great move IMO.

Posted by: Rocc00 | November 30, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

@vermontcaps - I'd say Hannan is more than just an upgrade over Sloan and Fahey LOL, even at this stage of his career, but I get your point about him being the type of player that can go unnoticed. He isn't quite as gritty as he once was but is still a very durable, positionally sound d-man who takes few penalties and is a solid PK'er.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | December 1, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

A few details on Hannan:

-He was good enough to be on the 2004 World Cup team (the one that won gold) and represented Canada in the 2005 World Championships (again, when you had full compliments of rosters to choose from and not the shamble that this year's WC was).
-He was on the orientation squad for the 2006 Olympic team.

The +/- doesn't tell the true story; while Hannan is a +1 this year, his goal differential is -19 which means he's getting used on their PK (COL's PK is under 80% and currently ranks 26th); they've given up more PP goals than any team other than EDM and are getting killed at home which shouldn't be happening. Budaj and Anderson have brutal special teams SPCT (.810 and .750).

His Corsi and QTeam numbers indicate he's not playing sheltered minutes.

Put Hannan in front of compentent goaltending and his differentials go up.

As was noted, the 2008-09 COL team was six shades of brutal which got them 3rd overall in the draft (Matt Duchene).

Posted by: jcurrin | December 1, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

"@LesGrossman: So what are all the caps fans who spent hunderds of $$$ on Fleischmann jerseys going to do now?"
Posted by: pcalver1 | November 30, 2010 3:48 PM

Odd, but I haven't seen many of those around VC. This is a player that won't be remembered for long.

Posted by: Wiley_One1 | December 1, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

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