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Scouting The Rangers

You think the Caps have trouble scoring? Then you haven't been watching the Rangers.

The Blueshirts, despite have having Jaromir Jagr, Chris Drury, Brendan Shanahan, Scott Gomez, etc., rank dead last in the NHL with a mere 64 goals. That's exactly 10 fewer than the 23rd-ranked Caps.

But they're significantly ahead of the Caps where it matters most: They're one point behind the Devils for first place in the Atlantic Division, and with a win tonight at VC can return to the top spot.

How is that possible, you ask? Goaltender Henrik "Hank" Lundqvist. That's how.

In my opinion, the 25-year-old Swede has been the league MVP so far this season (with plenty of consideration going to Tampa Bay's Vincent Lecavalier.) Hank ranks second in the NHL with a 1.94 goals against average, second in wins with 15, sixth in save percentage (.924) and second in shutouts with 5 (which is four more than Washington).

He's played in 27 of the Rangers' 30 games, so I'm guessing he'll be between the pipes against the last-place-but-rapidly-improving-Caps, who are 5-3-1 under interim Coach Bruce Boudreau.

This is and that:

*If you read my notebook in today's Post, then you already know that Chris Clark (strained groin muscle) has been downgraded to week-to-week and that Michael Nylander (undisclosed) is aiming to return this weekend. Defenseman Brian Pothier, after being scratched the past two games, also figures to get back into the lineup.

As for the Rangers, Sean Avery skated for the first time yesterday since having arthroscopic surgery on his left wrist late last month, according to this report in the NY Daily News. He's not playing obviously, but here's an interesting stat: the Rangers are 26-10-7 with him and 7-8-1 without him. Here's another interesting number from the Daily News article: The Rangers have scored only five goals the past four games, with Jagr failing to register a point and posting a minus-7 during that span.

If he keeps that up, Washington may not be the only place where he gets booed.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  December 12, 2007; 8:53 AM ET
 
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Comments

Looks like Ted may be off the hook for Jagr's salary next year.

Posted by: b.orr4 | December 12, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I hope Jagr sinks the rangers. Let him cry all he wants about losing Nylander. Boo hoo. I hate that guy. We're still paying half his salary so if he doesn't score and posts a big minus then we're getting our moneys worth.

Posted by: Screw Jagr | December 12, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I had also heard that they are not going to pick up his salary net year. So, Jagr will have to either a) go elsewhere to command his large salary or b) sign with the Rangers for significantly less.

Its funny because the Rangers had seemed to build the team around him for a while now with the addition of the FA's maybe they are moving in abother direction?

Regardless - Go Caps!! Lets pull off another win tonight!!

Posted by: cs | December 12, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Hi Tarik,

After reading your notebook piece, i sort of feel like my trade impressions are 'confirmed'. Do you get the impression at all that GMGM has a potential trade in the works involving Nylander?

Posted by: MMMMMMMMMMMMMM | December 12, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

If Jagr reaches certain offensive numbers (I wrote an entire story about it earlier this year) and the Rangers win a playoff round, then an automatic option year kicks in. And yes, the Caps are on the hook for that one, too.

Posted by: Tarik | December 12, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and Ivan was right. Your tie was all jacked up. After all those years of wearing one....

Posted by: MMMMMMMMMMMMM | December 12, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

@MMMMMMMMM

Come on, do you realy think they would sit out one of the Caps best offensive players for this long a period of time while trying to find a trade? That's not the way it works and you should know that. They would want him out there on the PP scoring as many goals has he can. It is clearly an injury of some sort.

Posted by: kenwood | December 12, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

booo Jagr booooo

Posted by: Brandon | December 12, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I got killed for not wearing a tie the last time. Then I put one on, and I get killed because it's not straight.

I can't win.

Posted by: Tarik | December 12, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Didn't the Rangers drop their option year (next year) on Jagr's contract? I thought that becuase they did this, regardless of the milestones and awards Jagr reaches/wins this season, the Caps are off the hook for paying him next season?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

@cs: GMGM could learn a lot from their org. It's not that novel of an idea to rebuild a team without starting from scratch. Look ahead and bring in who you need vs. dumping everyone and starting over.

Posted by: keef | December 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey Tarik, by hitting 'certain offensive numbers,' do you mean stinkers? If so, he's a shoo-in. :)

Posted by: keef | December 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

@ Kenwood

Yeah, i do think they would sit him for a trade. Teams that are losing end up having more injuries as guys play harder, more often and with more abandon. Since the injury bug is going around, why not avoid a deal-breaker. The guy is practicing at full speed and shooting and apparently isn't wearing the injured jersey. Caps are at the bottom of the league and of all the assets the caps have, which would you give up? If they want to trade for someone worthwhile, they are going to want something worthwhile in return. It won't be Ov, Semin or Backstrom. Who's next on the list? I wouldn't put it past GMGM at all. He isn't going to get far in negotiations by offering up 2nd rnd picks, not in the NHL at this time.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

I really can't see us forking out the money for Nylander and then trading him right off the bat...that doesn't seem to make any sense.

Posted by: K | December 12, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Crash the net tonight, boys...

Posted by: dave | December 12, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Ovy and Semin are better than Jagr

You Suck Jagr booooooooooooooo


wish Semin put 4 pts tonight

Posted by: Dady | December 12, 2007 10:40 AM | Report abuse

@K: It makes sense in that maybe he's not playing up to his potential/expectations. Personally, I can't see GMGM doing it because he'd be admitting he's wrong.

I for one wouldn't be sad to see him go though - I'm tired of the endless self-cycling. With the way Backstrom's playing with Ovie, perhaps he's just not needed.

Posted by: keef | December 12, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I have to admit, I was liking the "Crosby Sucks" chant that the fans in Philly had going on.

The next time that Philly and Pitt play is going to be very entertaining.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

When the Caps did the great fire sale, the scratched plenty of healthy players while trying to unload them. But, I don't think that's the case here. Nyls is hurt, we will never know for sure what it was, and I'm ok with that as long as he actually comes back this weekend as advertised. Let's let this one go and return to complaining about how the bad ice has deprived us of Chris Clark.

@ Tarik, next time you wear a tie, you should wear one of those old timey hats with a card that says "PRESS" near the brim. That style never gets older.

And, of course, Booooooooooooooooo, Jagr, Booooooooooooo.

Posted by: old time hockey | December 12, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

@keef
I definately agree that he's not playing up to his potential and is a great disappointment (at least to us fans)but I agree I don't see them trading him...wonder if GMGM's time here is still limited...is it even possible that Ted would get rid of him after the season?

Posted by: K | December 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Crosby sucks!

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I also wanted to say that we now see how important great goaltending is. Something we are not accustomed to here.

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

@Finn,

Wouldn't it be great to have a goalie that could actually win games for us?

Adding that to my wish list for the new year.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

> Goaltender Ilya "Bryz" Bryzgalov. That's how.

I hate Flyers, but have to admit, I enjoyed 'em handling Pens yesterday. And the chant too. :-)

Posted by: alexovetjkin | December 12, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Steve R, agreed.

All championship winning teams have a goalie who would steal 2-3 games in the Cup run. Great goaltending wins chamionships. Overrated, expensive, iconic, untouchable-even-when-suck goaltending wins another high 1st round draft pick.

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

If I were Edmonton, or another team that needs goalie help and has lots of cap room (some will yell "Caps" at this point), I'd go hard after Lundquist this off-season.

He's a RFA, the Rangers could (depending on their plans with Shanahan, Jagr, etc) once again be right against the cap. If a team is willing to offer 7 or 8 mil for an offensive player who is on the ice at most about a 1/3 of the game, it makes sense to offer that much for a guy who has shown he can consistently steal games.

Posted by: Jeff | December 12, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Nylander isn't going anywhere. He's been fine in term of points and worse than expected in terms of +/-, but he usually start slow in that category.

But he's 35, making decent money, and has 3 years left on his contract after this one, at 5.5, 5.5 and 3 million dollars. That's a lot to commit, even without factoring in how hard it is for team to make trades with guys making a decent amount of money with the cap in place.

Posted by: dmg | December 12, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

@Jeff,

I'd be wary of throwing offer sheets at RFA's out there. Edmonton screwed up the market with the Penner deal, paid him far too much. Plus I think GM's are going to hold Edmonton's toes to the fire in any trade talks. I don't want to see us go down that road.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Rangers will definetely win a playoff round but Jagirl won't reach those numbers. Forgive my ignorance, but how much really is Jagirl's salary counting against the Caps' cap this year alone?

We need to do tonight what the Flyers did to the Pens last night. Man, that was sweet!!!!!!!

Posted by: wanggo | December 12, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

@wanggo,

I think we're on the hook for 3.5 million, but I don't think that counts against our cap.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Why do people hate me so much?

Posted by: Jagr | December 12, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

So GMGM and the Coach don't want Nyls talking about it? That is really odd. I'm wonderign if it's maybe some kind of tendon problem in one of his joints and they don't want other teams taking cheap shots at the affected area.

Here's hoping Pothier has some fire tonight. He seems to have gotten the message. Tarik, the injured and scratched players stay in Ted's box? I thought they were up with you guys in the press area.

Posted by: EricS | December 12, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Interesting week.

We play the Rangers, the Sabres and the Lightning, all teams that we lost against the last encounters. Then we play Detroit. Which is by far the hottest team in the NHL. 104 goals scored (only team in NHL in 3 digits), only 67 against. 46 points (only team in NHL above 40 points). I'll be in Italy Monday but I'll stay awake all night to follow that one (well and the next games) :D

G O C A P S


Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

not in Ted's box, another suite. players are in the press box on the road.

Posted by: Tarik | December 12, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I believe the team is being secretive as the nature of Nyls injury because they want to prevent knuckleheads like Hollweg or Orr crashing into him if it is a concussion or the like -
either that or they're going to trade him, which is beyond the pale.

Posted by: Shaggy | December 12, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Mauree
Why are you always travelling? Job?
If so, you need to get your priorites in order, Son.
;-D

Oh yeah, and "Boooooo Jagr, boooooo!"

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Steve R -- I'm not really saying the Caps should. I'm saying that instead of offering crazy money for guys like Penner or Vanek, it'd make a lot more sense to target a guy like Lundquist.

I think it's definitely arguable that it's worth it to trade a number of 1st rounders for a Lundquist, or a Luongo type of goalie.

Posted by: Jeff | December 12, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

@shaggy
but then why would he say: "ask the coach/GM"? If you're right he'd say: "I'm not saying".

@pmoravek hehe hockey is high in my priority list man. I just moved a meeting so I can play street hockey at noon :D and I plan to watch all Caps games (1am-4am in Italy)

*joints the chants*

Boooooo Jagr, boooooo!
GO CAPS GO

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"I think we're on the hook for 3.5 million, but I don't think that counts against our cap."

thanks. But even if it doesn't count against the cap, I'm sure Ted wouldn't mind not paying a single cent to that turd. If the extra year option doesn't kick in next year, that means more money to pay OV or get a better dman.

I wanna see OV make huge clean bone-crushing hit on Jagirl, leaving him sprawling on the ice for 10 minutes. Then Shanny goes after OV, and then Brash kicks Shanny's ass. Perfect!!

Posted by: wanggo | December 12, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Mauree
There ya go...manipulate that job!
My schedule has been set-up so I can go up to the Icehouse and play drop-in hockey on Fridays.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

To any and all...
Where are you guys getting the practice schedule from?
I'd like to take the kids to a practice over Christmas break.

Thanks in advance...

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

pmoravek,

Go to the Caps website. In the drop-down list under "Schedule" there is a link to the practice schedule.

Posted by: HolyOlie | December 12, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

http://ted.aol.com/index.php?ID=1495

What "game" is Ted referring to?

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I believe that would be Monday against NJ

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks HolyOlie

and, of course...
"Boooo Jagr, booooo!"

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

whoops, I posted that, put Finn in the name section by accident. This is what happens why I try to do too many things at once. Sorry, Finn

Posted by: dmg | December 12, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey, fake Finn, I think there is a policy on using other people's names...

I was talking about the link that was provided on that page,

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I posted before I saw your second post

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

It was great listening to the Crosby Sucks chant...even being led by the Philly organist. It looks like the Flyers are back to their old rough and tumble ways and having success at it too. For all you calling for Brashear's head might want to think again when the Flyers come calling or the Rangers for that matter. And the toughness needs to go more than one deep. The Flyers and Rangers both have enough goons to run AO if Brashear is removed. We need heavy weights in the lineup which is why Pothier will be scratched again tonight.

Posted by: DarrylHockey | December 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

DarrylHockey,

Word on the street is that Pothier is in tonight.

Posted by: HolyOlie | December 12, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

@DarrylHockey

Is Erskine playing tonight? He isn't shy about dropping the gloves.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"I think we're on the hook for 3.5 million, but I don't think that counts against our cap."

Which of the Cap owners posted this? Tarik, I think he should be banned for not using his real name.

Posted by: whoiswe | December 12, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Finns,
You guys are confusing the Hell out of the rest of us!

LOL!

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The big question of the day is this: does Jagr get the "Larry Murphy Turkey Call" all night or just straight up booed?

Posted by: Phil C. | December 12, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

Im growing more concerned about Chris Clark's injury. Its tough to hear him talk about being sidelined like that. Do you think he is going to be out as long as Semin was? Thanks.

Posted by: BZ | December 12, 2007 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to the game tonite...
It will be a straight up BOOOO from me.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

It's NOT just about dropping gloves. It's about having the on-ice presence that Brashear gives. When he's on, the other teams know it and are keeping an eye out for him for their own self-preservation. That's why he's needed.

You're right about Philly and the Rangers having knuckle draggers (goons). They have plenty of guys that will take cheap shots, late hits, head shots, crash the goalie time after time, etc.... So far, we've NEVER stood up against someone taking a run at AO or AS except Brashear.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"I think we're on the hook for 3.5 million, but I don't think that counts against our cap."

Which of the Cap owners posted this? Tarik, I think he should be banned for not using his real name.

@whoiswe,

My post. As my money spent on tickets to watch my team, is part of the teams revenue which goes toward payroll, of which roughly 3.5 million goes toward Jarg's salary, I can freely say that WE are on the hook for blah blah blah. Read Tarik's 10/12 story.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Is it any wonder that the Caps seem to go through season after season with most man games lossed. Wake up TED! If you want a healthy team most of the time get some new ice technology.

Posted by: blankn1612 | December 12, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Yes...obviously the ice was to blame for Clark's ear injury, as well as Gordon's hand injury. And Clark's missing teeth last year were due to the ice...and Fehr's back injury is likely due to the ice too.

Oy.

Posted by: Jeff | December 12, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

not to mention Lunqvist is foxy

Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Jagr's salary to the Rangers (the part that counts against the cap) is $4.94 Million. Times 2 (we're paying half) is $9.88 Mill total.

Our half ($4.94 M) doesn't go against the cap, but does go against the budget. Think what that could buy!

I'm conflicted about tonight's game. I'm a long time Rangers fan, and a 7 yr Caps fan. No matter who wins the game, I'm both happy and sad. I cheered when we got rid of Jagr, and P.O.'d where he ended up at the same time.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I hope that SOB jagr hurts himself on the horrible ice tonight.

GO CAPS.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | December 12, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm getting a little better at making sense of the odds stats/numbers.

11 of 11 odds-makers say the Rangers are going to win tonight. About a third favor the Rangers heavily.

Numbers, eh.

Lets see what BB's team has to say about that tonight...

Posted by: austinsteve | December 12, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I heard sluggo got canned cause of the ice too

Posted by: narnia | December 12, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Where is all this excitement when we play Florida or Carolina, I wonder...

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Nice read:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20071212_Phil_Sheridan___Bad_blood_boils_over_in_display_of_dirty_play.html

Crosby is a terrific player. He is also capable of some hit-and-run behavior of his own. He tripped up Flyers goaltender Martin Biron from behind in the third period, then hid behind teammate Georges Laraque, who took a dive into Biron's legs a few minutes later.

When things really got out of hand, Crosby was on the bench.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Darn I wish I'd seen that game!!!

Posted by: K | December 12, 2007 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, we care about Crosby?
I must be in the wrong blog

Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"I'm sorry, we care about Crosby?
I must be in the wrong blog"

Kind of a bummer when the 1/2 of the face of hockey that isn't named Alex O is a complete wuss bag.

Posted by: Crosby=Wuss | December 12, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

@ Jeff

Actually, it's entirely possible that bad ice could have hurt Fehr's back. I hit a bad divot once and strained the hell out of my back regaining balance while doing some sort of pirouette one time.

That was painful -- in many ways.

And I just don't see Nylander going anywhere this early -- that'd be stupid, even for GMGM. He usually takes too long to make moves. He does not suffer from making rash decisions.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 12, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

If the Caps beat the Rangers tonight, I'll finally hop on the Bruce Bodreau bandwagon (BBB).

Crosby stayed on the bench because Biron would've kicked his whiny little ass.

Posted by: wanggo | December 12, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

JAGR SUCKS! HE REALLY, REALLY SUCKS!!!!!

As I stated yesterday, Crosby is a pussy! And so is Terrien. Then again, his first name is Michelle.

Like I have been saying, OV is definitely more valuable than Crosby. There is no way in hell OV would sit on the bench in that situation like Crosby did last night. OV wouldv'e been out there, defending himself, and not hiding behind our body gaurd (Brash), unlike Sid, who had to hide behind his (Laraque).

Hell, Crosby hasn't even dropped his gloves yet. OV has done that (last season, pre-season).

Some of you guys seem to think we need more guys to "stand-up" for OV, but I honestly think OV could handle himself if he had to drop his gloves. Sid would cry and crumple to the ice, sucking his thumb, begging for Mario to save him!

Posted by: Matt | December 12, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin should have finished that check on crysbaby... Too bad Alex decided to spare bettman's baby... Next time, Alex, HIT THAT WUSS AS HARD AS YOU CAN!!!!

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Crosby is a wimp. talent, sure, but a coward. Whines when calls go against him, runs when things get tough. OV needs no one to look after him, but other teams need to know that if you make run at ANY of our players (even Motzko) then youhave to face the rath of the whole team

Posted by: Lee | December 12, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Finn,

Again, sorry, I mean to put your name at the top so it'd be clear who I was addressing but I guess I put it in the name section by accident.

DrinkingPartner,

I don't think bad ice caused Fehr's injury - my understanding is that it is a compressed nerve in the back that is affecting sensation in his hip. When I had this same injury I didn't get the impression it was caused by having my back wrenched, but I'm not a doctor so I only know so much

Posted by: dmg | December 12, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I keep hearing how bad the VC's ice is, but it only seems to be hurt our guys. If it was the ice, don't you think some visiting teams would be getting injured on it too?

Don't get me wrong, I know we play on it for 50% of our games, but you would think the bad ice would hurt other players on opposing teams too.

Posted by: Matt | December 12, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Talking about the ice as a main factor is a complete cop out. Lets start talking about how the team has shown no heart in the first quarter of the season. Half the guys seem to not care when they are out there. Lets talk about how the organization continuously sticks by a goaltender who really has done nothing impressive in the last 4-5 years. Lets talk about how they have yet to lock AO into a long term deal.

Honestly, I dont see him going anywhere, but come trade deadline, I could see a team like Detroit on San Jose giving up some young guys to solidify their lineup with a guy like AO...or at least throwing a few offers this way to make it worth GMGM's while. Lets talk about how nobody else is scoring on this team. Ovie is the only one with double digits.

Lets talk about how Nylander has an 'injury' but with no obvious ailment. I'd put my money on him having a disagreement with the coaching staff on how he is being used and getting benched for shooting off his mouth.

Lets talk about how the Rangers, although they are not scoring, they aren't giving up much of anything either..do you really think this team has the heart to win against a team that gives up maybe 1 a game?

Do you think that BB is going to stick around? Do you think that the pre madonna attitude of the players in the nhl these days will allow a quality, in your face coach like him to stick around? If anything good can come of it, Kolzig will be urged to retire.

My point is that the ice may be bad, but other teams seem to play quite well on it. In the old days, rinks and ice differed all over the league, the home team used it to their advantage.

This team has shown no passion for the game, they have shown no desire to win.

Posted by: Tomtom | December 12, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

AO is the man...he's been really aggressive on the ice this year. I sit close enough to the glass to have seen some of the Devils players cringe when AO came charging at them...here's hoping the front office is smart enough to keep him for a very long time....

Posted by: K | December 12, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@ Tomtom

RE: Lets talk about how the Rangers, although they are not scoring, they aren't giving up much of anything either..do you really think this team has the heart to win against a team that gives up maybe 1 a game?

Yes, I do think the Caps can, and will win this game. They are playing great, Pothier should bring his "A" game, the Rangers aren't scoring, and we beat NJ Monday night, a team who doesn't usually give up a whole lot of goals. (And yes, I know Marty wasn't in goal, but the Devils are good no matter who is in goal)

And have you even watched this team play now under BB? they have played with more passion in these last 10 games than I have seen them play with in the last season and a half under Hanlon.

With this young team, i think the "in your face" style of BB is exactly what they need to succeed, not a "buddy" like Hanlon, to hold their hands and wipe away the tears when they screw up.

Posted by: Matt | December 12, 2007 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Of course I have seen the team play, but there are still some of the underlying issues that we seen before the coaching change.

They may have more aggressiveness, but they are not scoring. They still have an inconsistent goalie, they still have defense problems. Playing in a structured systems will only mask some of these things.

Some of the players really need to sit and watch a few games. Kolzig needs to be pulled after the 1st soft goal because if the team is playing well enough to win, they cant have old man river back there screwing it up.

Posted by: Tomtom | December 12, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

So, did ya wanna yank Olie after he allowed the first one Monday? They managed to win that game.

And whats to mask about this team? They are young, especially the D. And Olie does give up some bad goals, but so does everyone else that plays goalie in the NHL.

Its not like the team plays any better in front of Johnny, seeing that he has 2 wins in 7 decisions.

Blaming Olie for a young D that lets him hanging out to dry a lot of times isn't his fault. Even Lundquist or Broduer or Loungo would give up some bad goals with this young of a D corp in front of them.

I think we need a younger goalie for the future, but lets cut Olie some slack.

Posted by: Matt | December 12, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Kolzig should be brought down to Earth. He should be told that he WILL be pulled if he keeps screwing up the way he has been for the past few years now. He should also be told to keep his legs together. One Kolzig's screw up can cost us the game tonight, since the Rangers don't give up that many goals.

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

@ dmg

Yeah, I seem to remember something like that. I'm just saying, though, bad ice COULD do that. Compressed nerves could happen with horrible wrenching.

Not that I'm saying that happened - just that it could.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 12, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

We all can see that Olie isn't what he was a few years back. The problem is, ther eare no other options. Brent Johnson is a backup for a reason. (Just watch him in warm-ups tonight and you'll see why).

Where can you turn to get a good goalie. Smart teams aren't going to let their stud goalies either A) walk through free agency or B) get traded very easily. Are you willing to give up Semin and somebody for a goalie? It's a tough call.

Posted by: Phil C. | December 12, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Phil,

What the heck has GMGM been thinking for the last two years? Once again, Bryzgalov was available.

Posted by: Finn | December 12, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I just like the plain old serenading of one's name, you all know it. Yhaaaa-Gheeeerrrrr, Yhaaaa-Gheeerrrrr, Yhaaaa-Gheeerrrrr. I can't make it tonight so make me proud Caps Fans!

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 12, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

@ Matt

Kolzig is 9-13-1 right now. Johnny is 2-4-1.


Yeah, Johnny only has won 2 of 7. But if you look at the numbers...lets say that he has played as many games as Kolzig and continued to get 2 wins out of every 7 games..he would be around 6 wins 17 losses...not counting the eventual OT loss...so lets say he would possibly be 6-15-2 just for the sake of argument.

Winning percentages would be almost identical with only a few percentage points higher.

Kolzig has played more games so it seems as if he is doing a better job, but in reality he has the numbers of an overpaid backup.

Posted by: Tomtom | December 12, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Bryzgalov is as inconsistent as any of them...sure he has played well for the Coyootes, but right now he has something to prove. As soon as that wears off he will be just like he was before.
Kolzig definitely has lost a little something in the past few years, but he still comes up with some great saves. For example he held the Devs at bay in the third period the other night.
I think once he starts to have some more faith in the boys in front of him, he will become more solid.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Um...9-13-1 is considerably better than 6-15-2...

19 points out of a possible 46 (41%) vs 14 out of a possible 46 (30%)? Obviously neither is fantastic, but it's still a sizeable margin.

Posted by: Jeff | December 12, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

How is Cassivi? What's the book on him?

Posted by: Phil C. | December 12, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

and about Crosby...

I know you guys are all anxious to hate him because of the jersey he wears.
(I can't even spit out the p-word)
But you gotta recognize the talent the kid has. Like it or not, he is the face of the new NHL.
I don't think he made the decision to hang on the bench for the last few shifts against the Flyers, I think Terrien probably didn't want to put his star player at risk.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I think we will lose the game tonight. I am thinking 3-1 or 4-2. To many PIM from our D and a soft game from Olie. But I REALLY hope not!!! # in a row would be a good start at a run.

Posted by: Brad | December 12, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

#=3

Posted by: Brad | December 12, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

While Kolzig and the entire D have had issues this year, they are not the major problems with this team! How many 1 goal games have the Caps lost this year...10, I believe. If the Caps had the ability to score some goals they would definitely not be at the bottom of the league. Sure, the Rangers rank 30th in goals scored per game. But hello - folks - the Caps are not much better, ranking 26th!

Posted by: jon | December 12, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"My post. As my money spent on tickets to watch my team, is part of the teams revenue which goes toward payroll, of which roughly 3.5 million goes toward Jarg's salary, I can freely say that WE are on the hook for blah blah blah. Read Tarik's 10/12 story." - Steve R.

That is all it takes? I am on my way to buy a $10 ticket for tonight's game and become a partner of the Caps organization. Thanks for the info.

I will pass on the Tarik read, but I DO AGREE WITH YOU on the goalie situation, we need one badly.


Posted by: whoiswe | December 12, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Coach Gabby,
My goals for tonight's game:
2 pts.
+2 +/-
3 hits

by Jeff Schultz

Posted by: kevbpgc | December 12, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

No, Olie and the D are not the reasons for the Caps woes - but Boudreau has said that if the Caps are going to make some noise, they will have to ride Olie and ride him hard. He has to come through, and I think his chances are good (and in turn, the team's chances are good).
Bryzgalov won his first 4, then lost his next 4 - yeah, he was the savior of teh franchise all right. I think the savior is young Varlamov - but that may not be until 2009.

Posted by: Shaggy | December 12, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I agree with pmoravek, Crosby has a lot of talent. His pass on the second Penguins' goal yesterday was nothing short of spectacular. And when he has the puck, it's almost like it's glued to his stick.

That said, his face alone makes me want to slap him a bit. And physically he's nothing compared to AO, who sometimes takes big hits and doesn't even fall down. And who many times GIVES big hits. As a matter of facts, he's the Caps player I've seen giving the most spectacular hits.

I don't hate Crosby, amd I truly admire his skills. I do want AO to hit him and score 100 goals on the Penguins though :D

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

To: Jeff Schultz

Why only 2 points? Why only 3 hits? Why not 3 points? Or 4?

Gabby

PS. You're sitting with that attitude...

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

@whoiswe,

You're welcome. Make sure you're one of the first 5000 in the stands & get your red mullet wig.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Crosby is worthy of gold medal consideration for his diving ability.

If he whined a little less and played for a different team I think I would appreciate his skill level a little more.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't know much about Schneider.

Can anyone tell me how valuable he would be to the Caps at this point this season?

Could he be the difference in making the playoffs? Would we make it anyway? Would we not anyway?

Would giving up our top pick (possibly THE top pick) next year worth getting Schneider on D this year? Is he really that good? What level of pick would he be worth - assuming they are interested in draft picks.

I'm thinking we should just as soon go with what we have, and GMGM better not trade away our top pick. But I don't know enough about Mr. Anaheim D.

Thanks

Posted by: austinsteve | December 12, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

One of the things I like about Coach B (from Tarik's "Outtakes"):

"When I was playing junior and living at home, me and my Dad used to sit down and go through the whole schedule. I would write down how many points I wanted to score in each game. It would never be under four or five. I used to hate when guys would say, 'I really hope I get a goal tonight.' Well, then what happens if you get that goal on the first shift of the game? Then they think they've achieved their goal. That's not right. You always have to make goals so far out there that you have to reach for them."

"That's culture I want to bring to the Capitals."

I really like that!

@Lee

"OV needs no one to look after him, but other teams need to know that if you make run at ANY of our players (even Motzko) then you have to face the wrath of the whole team"

Amen! That's the tightness that this "team" needs. The feeling that you're dealing with your kid brother out there and you don't mess with him for nothin'.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

@ Jeff and other bad ice disbelievers-

Saw Ovechkin's slapshot on Clark's ear up close and personal. It did hit a chip of ice that sent it flying higher than the same angled shot would have gone at any other rink in the NHL. Better ice= lower shot= Clark having no concussion= better skating and better ability to see bad ice= no tripping on the bad ice a few weeks later= no groin pull=playing tonight.

Same things goes with the missing teeth (still on the ice from last year) Gordon's broken hand (puck would have hit him in the hip pad), Feher's back(pulled while trying to turn away from a check and twisting on bad ice), and Semin's ankle (tripped on bad ice and was hit by puck that hit bad ice).

Posted by: 108 A | December 12, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

J A G R is a Bum,Greedy,Gambiling,Panzy,Pu**y,wash up nobody who only can play with his fellow Chezchs and not 2mention a team cancer... I will gladly being Booing/Yelling/Whooping him all night 2nite... had 2get that off my chest!
GO CAPS somebody get a WIG TRICK 2nite!

Posted by: ZackAttack | December 12, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

@austinsteve

Schneider is 38 and makes 5.6+M. Personally, I think you get more bang for the buck with a Beauchemin at 1.65 for a 27 year old.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Coach,
For a guy who never hit anyone I thought 3 hits was a pretty lofty goal.

Schultzie

Posted by: kevbpgc | December 12, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Schultzie

I'll let you go on that. 3 hits would be monumental for you, although it really shouldn't be.

But you want to aim for 4 or 5 points every night just like I did. You have to reach for it.

Gabby

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

for Schultz to achieve his goal of 3 hits, shouldn't he first learn what actually constitutes a hit in the NHL?

Posted by: Lee | December 12, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

...actually Schultz has had 3 hits in each of the last two games.

Posted by: dmg | December 12, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

If Schultz manages only 1 hit all night, and for him, the rest of the season, I hope it's one that will end Jagr's season!

Posted by: Matt | December 12, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Ah, thanks Greg

I guess I haven't kept up with my homework on aging western conference defensemen. I was just looking at his profile - this is his first year at Anaheim(?) Doesn't seem like smart GMing over there if they are already looking to dump his salary after only 17 games!

Posted by: austinsteve | December 12, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Capitals fans,

Please boo Jagr loudly tonight. I plan to boo him ... from my seat in front of the TV, of course. :)

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | December 12, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Yaaaa-guurrr, yaaaaaa-guuurrr, ya-guuurrrrr, ya-guuurrrrrr. Serenade him to death boys 'n gals!!!! yaaaaa-guurrrrr....

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 12, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Brash just knocked the light out of him lol

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Brash! Brash! Brash! Brash!!!

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 12, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Motzko!
I wonder if the groin Ovie shot made Lundy unable to slide across. His standard movement should've been to move across with that initial deflection.

We should test him side-to-side more

Posted by: Icebat | December 12, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Before the Rangers scored I was thinking "well Motzko is not playing bad". What about that, he scored lol.

Come on boys you can do it!


PS: if they ice was good it would have gone in! *instigates* :p

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Well if we win it won't matter anyway.

I still think Lundy was way out of position/not even trying to get across there on replay.

Any way you slice it Motzko was on the spot

Posted by: Icebat | December 12, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Gomez was too fast for Schultz on the first goal. And on the second all Caps are responsible: 5 Caps are on D, and 3 Rangers are completely free. That shouldn't happen.

What a play by Brashear on our goal.

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Holy Motzko!!

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The Brashear-haters should take a week of silence.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | December 12, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

What a game by Brashear.

Come on boys!

GO CAPS


Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm still not seeing anything Prongeresque about Shultz.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

@TN, I've said it all along. Brash is not THE/OUR problem!!! He has done everything asked of him and more. The players choose letters and he wears/earned one! Go Brash and hope Ovie gets a point.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 12, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

i've been saying it wasn't motzko's fault.

Posted by: jim* | December 12, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

schultzie is cracking me up!

Posted by: jim* | December 12, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!



YES


YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

That was a sweet ending!

Shanahan is probably in a very very dark corner of the locker room right now!

Posted by: Icebat | December 12, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Look, we all have to consider growing a mullet at one time during the season, scary.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 12, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

So, two teams who have problems scoring, obviously a 5-4 shootout breaks out.

Go Green go. At this rate, you'll play with the big boys at the All-Star game, not just the YoungStars game.

Posted by: tallbear | December 12, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

while I remember how to breath...

what a game. I envy pmoravek so much for being there.

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Caps hockey experts,

I wish you all a merry Christmas!

As you predicted Holly Motzko and giant midget Schultz suck.

Other than that Happy Holidays! :-)

Go Caps! Viva Ovechkin!

Posted by: alexovetjkin | December 12, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I guess the same ice that stopped the one goal from crossing the line reached up and tripped Shanahan!

Boy does that Green guy really suck, eh?!

Posted by: austinsteve | December 12, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Bad ice seems to have worked in our favor as Shanny's foot appeared to get caught in a rut when he fell and turned over the puck at the end of the game.

Posted by: Ogilthorpe | December 12, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

@Austin,
LOL, I thought the same thing!!! Blame the ice Rangers!!!

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 12, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Looked like the Rags wanted OT. Well, they got it and paid for it. Nice finish!

Posted by: Green Trees | December 12, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

What a difference having a REAL Coach makes. This guy, "Gabby" B. has the boys BELIEVING in themselves. Tonight was a perfect example. Although they fell behind 2 - 0, they never dropped their heads ( as was always the case while Hanlon was around.) Instead, they put the pedal to the metal and came back swinging harder than ever. They showed character. they showed passion ( All except Kozlov, of course.) They showed resilience and grit.
For the first time in years, I felt truly proud of them tonight.

Posted by: Puckguru | December 12, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

that game was epic

Posted by: czechsmix | December 12, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

So, does having a REAL coach mean that GMGM may have acquired/drafted a few decent players after all?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 12, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

THAT was how you play hockey!!! Hard and fast! Damned good game.

Green wins it in OT, Brashear with 2 assists a fight and some tremendous hits, Motzko (who woulda thunk it? not me!) with 2, Schultz scores. Will miracles never cease.

Ladies and gents, we may be approaching the crest of the hill.

Now, if Poti, Kozlov and Pothier can wake up and start contributing goals, we'd be kickin'.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

You know, both games coming up appear entirely winnable, with the 14th-place Sabres and the 10th-place Bolts not appearing insurmountable. I'm not saying I hear sleigh bells, but damned if Coach B and the Caps don't have me thinking Santa might have a 5-game win streak and the 30-point mark on the way to D.C. before Christmas.

Sometimes it's really, truly scary how deep this team can dig to make me believe.

Posted by: Kurt | December 12, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

I really think we need to be in the same division as the Rangers, Philly, Pitts, NJ and Isles. They're damned entertaining games, and I think once the people start seeing them, will put fannies in the seats.

@Tarik and Annonymous 10:11 PM

Is there a way to FORCE people to sign their handle on here? I really won't reply to annonymous persons and don't trust them.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 12, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I've always been in Brashear's corner. Good to see the big guy snag two assists and a KO of that goon Colton Orr.

The Capitals are 6-3-1 under Gabby -- 13 out of a possible 20 points. Pretty close to that "win two out of every three" rate that we need...

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | December 12, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

@ The Coward with not enough nuts to sign his post,
Having a REAL coach means not always looking for excuses. Having a REAL coach means taking the cards you're dealt ( Including gmgm's lousy Free Agent signings ( Pothier, Poti, Kozlov )and underachieving others, like Pettinger ( 2 g., 2 assists ALL YEAR ) and Flash, AND STILL FINDING A WAY TO WIN!
Having a REAL coach means players EXECUTING his systems, as opposed to merely going through the motions. Having a REAL coach means motivating his players to play to their maximum abilities ; Motzko, Brash, Steckel, and Green. Having a REAL coach means having someone who KNOWS what to say to his team, as opposed to, "I wouldn't have known WHAT to say to them today."
No, Mr Anonomous Coward, George McFAIL has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with the Caps resurgence. On the contrary, they've done it IN SPITE OF HIS ABYSMAL FAILURES. Get it?

Posted by: Puckguru | December 12, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

That game was sooo freaking awesome! I can't believe it! Now that is what I paid money to see. I can't believe what a difference a coach makes! All I have to say is they better sign both Gabby and Ovie and be quick about it!!! So much fun! And truly who would have thought Motzko would have 2 freaking goals?!!?!?!?! I wonder what we would look like with Nyls, Clarkie and Gordon?!

Posted by: K | December 12, 2007 11:05 PM | Report abuse

I think we all need to step it up against Schultz -- the more we talk bad about him, the luckier he gets.

Amazing game.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 12, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

I wanna hear pmoravek's impressions of the game (and whoever was there). He's probably getting drunk on the win wave and making dubious acquaintances lol.

Posted by: mauree | December 12, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I was heckling Schultz for a bit, and he did everything he could to prove me wrong on offense. He still hits like a pillow on skates, but he's starting to look alright.

Even Brash looked good out there. Flash could have been better, but he didn't make any huge mistakes. All in all, the system looked really good. Hopefully, we won't be sitting back on our heels on Friday.

My throat is totally ripped up. Haven't cheered that loudly all season, I don't think. Competing with those damn blueshirt fans was rough, and I had three solid rows of them in front of me...

@Puckguru - Pettinger isn't an underachiever. He works hard all game. And Flash is pretty inexperienced.

Posted by: MikeZ | December 12, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the Motzko haters now???

Schultz with another goal - Who knew? But he was a -2 for the evening. Still very soft and could use a few games out to send a message to him to start finishing checks.

Green's on fire! - lead all Caps with 30 minutes of ice time. I wonder how many points he would have if he played wing. Leads NHL D with goals - probably too late to get him voted to the All Star game.

I think Pothier got the message sitting the past 2 games. I like his new aggressiveness. Hope he keeps it up.

I think Olie let in a couple more he should have stopped. Like to see Johnny get his fair shot.

Who sits when Clark, Nylander and Gordon comes back??? Kovlov, Flash (looked extremely slow on the 2 on 1), Bradley ....

Game was very exciting, especially seeing the 3 Ranger fans sitting in front of me in the lower section bury their heads in their hands at the end of the game.

Let's hope this recent success is long term and not a flash in the pan!!!!!

Posted by: Comcast Sux | December 12, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

amazing game. SO glad I went instead of watching on TV.

Flash looked slow on that 2 on 1 because it was the end of his shift, a long one i believe. He went straight to the bench and Ovechkin's regular line mate came on.

Posted by: Brandon | December 12, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I can't help but think that King Henrik trembles in his pads a little now every time he sees AO wind up for a slapper.

Magnificent game. They never gave up. Screw my friends for bailing on me, resulting in me watching that one from home. Granted, the beer here is better and cheaper than at VC. I'll be there Friday though, come Hell or high water.

Posted by: HolyOlie | December 12, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm back guys...did ya miss me?

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

So that was an AWESOME game to watch!
That final goal by Greener was a thing of beauty. But I have one question...
WHO THE HELL WAS THE GUY IN THE MOTSKO JERSEY?

Posted by: pmoravek | December 12, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

@pmoravek,

Agree on Green, the kid is kicking butt.

How did Kozlov look out there? Didn't see much of him on tv.

Posted by: Steve R | December 12, 2007 11:59 PM | Report abuse

well Shanahan must be pissed but at least VC's crappy ice finally worked to out advantage. don't look now but good old Gabby might just be putting together the streak we needed.

Posted by: DC FURY | December 13, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Didn't see much of him either.
He was kinda invisible. That is my main beef with that guy. With his size and skill, he should be a force in every game.

BB seems to be good at making the most of his players. I'm sure he will find a way to make good use of what Koslov brings to the table.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 12:10 AM | Report abuse

@ those who are still confused about gmgm and Pres. Dick P.,

It should be obvious now with Gabby in charge, how important coaching is to hockey. It should also be apparent that the "brain trust" of the Washington Capitals are/were just as much lost in the weeds as Hanlon was. It was one thing to let him wander for the last two months of last season, but to allow Hanlon to continue for 21 games this season without a clue, is PROOF that between gmgm and Pres. Dick P., there is no brain to trust leading the organization.

Right now, Head Coach is Gabby's job to lose. WAAAAYYY past time for gmgm and Pres. Dick P. to step aside.

(Did the iceman get one of the stars tonight? ;-) )

Posted by: Clarendon | December 13, 2007 12:14 AM | Report abuse

3rd star was Straka
2nd star was Greener
1st star was the guy who stole Motskos jersey and scored those two goals

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

How do you motivate Kozlov though? He had that John Elway smile when he missed the open goal last game, pissed me off to no end. He could be a beast - if he so chose..

Posted by: Steve R | December 13, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Steve R
That, my friend, is a VERY good question.
But BB seems to be pretty good at that sort of thing. Maybe he can get him going.
Pothier, for example, had a very good game in my opinion. He was more physical tonite than he was earlier in the season.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

@ Mike Z,
I've never questioned Matt Pettinger's work ethic. You're absolutely correct. He does work hard. But, that's NOT THE POINT. Just about everybody works hard. Laboratory mice work hard. So, Big deal. I'm talking PRODUCTION here, Mikey boy. PRODUCTION!! And, the fact of the matter is that his production has been nearly NON EXISTENT. Truth is, you have absolutely NOTHING to substantiate your argument with. The guy has scored 4 lousy points in THIRTY - ONE GAMES!! YOU do the math on that Mr. Pettinger defender. You remind me of Glen Hanlon. Full of compassion for players that achieved little or nothing. You simply have no case. I rest mine.

Posted by: Puckguru | December 13, 2007 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Recchi had two goals tonight. How did the collective wisdom of the blog fall asleep on what a proven goal scorer, picked up for a season even though he's over 40, could bring to our team.....?

Greg S in particular, I remember your rant on why we should pick him up. That makes two players that we passed on that could have helped the Caps now.

Posted by: Steve R | December 13, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Steve R
You make a good point.
I also, thought we should take him.
But since he came up on waivers, we have played well with the guys we have.
Recchi was an unknown quantity since he was NOT playing well in Pittsburgh.
(Ugg...I throw up in my mouth a little whenever I have to utter that word)

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Steve R,
I think the reality of it is that YOU CAN'T MOTIVATE Kozlov. What is this, his tenth year in the league? In all that time, he's NEVER really lit it up. Never set the hockey world on fire. Sadly, he's been a career underachiever. It's for precisely that reason that I questioned gmgm's judgement ( Back in July ) right after the signing was announced. It made no more sense to me THEN, than it does NOW. The simple fact of the matter is that, "Leopards don't change their spots." He is, what he is. A nonchalant, non aggresive, seemingly unconcerned, frightenly skilled waste of God given hockey talent. Chances are he'll end up with about the same numbers he's had for the last decade. Which will be utterly pitiful, considering the skill set he brings to the table. And, may I add, playing on a line with Ovechkin makes his performance all the more infuriating. Oh, well. Thanks George. You should have signed Zubby.

Posted by: Puckguru | December 13, 2007 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Just back home after a few at Fado.

1. Knew it sould be a great night when I saw Brash skate warm-ups in a mullet! Thanks Brash for lightening up the mood.

2. Booed Ya-girl at every opportunity.

3. Loved the energy!

4. Poti STUNK! Had to be at least a -3 on the night...flat footed...no support to Olie...turnovers in our zone...and looked confused as to what had just happened. We had to OVERCOME POTI tonight! Bruce...please put him in the press box for a couple...seems to have positive behaviour modification results!

5. Enough griping about Shirley! Had a great time tonight....fun watching the Broadway Blue Shirts struggle on the Phone Booth Mush!

Posted by: olemiss84 | December 13, 2007 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Olemiss,
Poti was -2...
and stop calling me Shirley.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Just got in. Glad to see I missed a beaut. Gabby rules. Friday night Schultz decks somebody. People are gonna start getting up for us. Keep it up boys. There's still a ways to go.

Posted by: kevbpgc | December 13, 2007 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Can somebody please remove the "interim" label?

Oneal

Posted by: Oneal | December 13, 2007 1:19 AM | Report abuse

@pmoravek

Face it. Shirley Poti STUNK tonight. Otherwise was a GREAT night.

Thanks for the feedback, Gladys!

Posted by: olemiss84 | December 13, 2007 1:19 AM | Report abuse

"Is there a way to FORCE people to sign their handle on here? I really won't reply to annonymous persons and don't trust them." - greg s.
"@ The Coward with not enough nuts to sign his post," - puckguru.

I am not defending the Anonymous poster, but I have a question for Puckguru. Is that your real name or do you speak without thinking?

And to Greg S,, don;t let small stuff bother you, after all, if you look at the name of the bloggers you will find out that most of them use pseudonyms. I think Anonymous is just too lazy to tab up to the name window, I suggest you call him Anonymous, Mr. X., John Doe, or whatever you want. Why would you trust someone like puckguru, or whoiswe but not anonymous? We are all the same, a bunch of nitwits blowing hot air deceiving ourselves of having hockey knowledge. LOL. Take it on stride.

Posted by: whoiswe | December 13, 2007 1:26 AM | Report abuse

olemiss

I'm not defending him...
He did have a rough night...
as did Koslov,
as did Kolzig,
but some of the other guys stepped up.
(I'm still just flabbergasted at Motsko)
and we found a way to win.

kevpgc is right though...
The other teams are not going to look past us if we continue playing this way.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Hey whoiswe
Love your attitude Dude!
They ain't paying us for our opinion.
It's great that we are passionate about our team, because there ain't enough of that in this town.
Puckguru is just a little more passionate than some of us. (heh heh)

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 1:32 AM | Report abuse

Hey, did you see it was the game of the night on NHL.COM?!? Sweet!!

"It's a pretty safe bet that Alexander Ovechkin will lead the Washington Capitals in scoring when the 2007-08 season comes to a close. But after struggling for much of the first two months of the season, the all-hands-on-deck approach interim coach Bruce Boudreau has implemented could have the Caps back in the Eastern Conference playoff race sooner rather than later. "

BTW, on the way home from the game I was listening to post-game on the radio, and they were saying how BB not only has the players but also the fans fired up. Ain't that the truth!!

So he has officially made it to 10 games and he is 6-3-1 ... what's the verdict, folks?!? He's got my vote!! BB FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: Boo! | December 13, 2007 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Oneal-

Word to your mother.

Posted by: kevbpgc | December 13, 2007 1:58 AM | Report abuse

How many recall all of the conjecture, during the pre season, regarding whether or not Mike Green was even going to make the opening night roster --------- in spite of the fact he led the team in goals? I ask this simply as another example of how completely inept gmgm has ALWAYS BEEN. He's a complete and total disaster. His track record before, during, and after the fire sale is an absolute abomination. He gave away a virtual All Star team and got ( With the exception of Green and Morrison ) virtually NOTHING IN RETURN. His wisdom at the draft table ( Ov, Semin, and Backstrom were no brainers )has been non existent. And, lord knows his FA signings have been anything but inspiring ( To say the least. )
Every day I send up a small prayer that Ted will see the wisdom of getting rid of this scourge. Please, Ted, are you listening?

Posted by: Puckguru | December 13, 2007 2:23 AM | Report abuse

kevbpgc,
Now, don't you go talkin' about Oneal's mother. That ain't cool.

Posted by: Puckguru | December 13, 2007 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Oh! Now I get it! Motzko should play on first line with OV - he's a scoring machine! Hanlon was right!

Ok, so I've had my fun. Seriously though, I thought someone else had gone out there in his jersey when I saw that move on the second goal...

Posted by: Raber | December 13, 2007 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Ten years as a GM your bound to get lucky...what's the saying-even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. Besides the three nuts he found in AO, Semin, and Backstrom he has now found another, BB. Pure luck. And Caps fans we must thank the mighty Hockey Gods- having kicked us to the gutter over and over- those Mighty Gods have blessed us with this man. Oh my. What has he done? He has unleashed the hounds. The team is playing with a vigor and passion I haven't seen since Lord Hunter left. Will and want. It's as simple as that.

Posted by: Darryl Hockey | December 13, 2007 8:09 AM | Report abuse

That was the best game I've seen all season. What a game by Green! I'm writing him in on the All-Star ballot as many times as I can. He was one of my favs in Hershey and is quickly become my fav in DC. Brash also had a great game. Did you see the way he was creating turn overs? And what a k.o.! Orr looked like her regretted dropping the mits. I was really hoping he would have gotten the Gordie Howe hat trick...but in the words of Meatloaf, 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Everyone played so well tonight. Olie made some spectacular saves. Motzko looked really good also, his second goal was a thing of beauty. Flash looked a bit lazy out there though, maybe time for some laps or the press box. I'm sure BB will be talking to Backstom about trying to clear the puck through the middle instead of just tucking under Olie...a rookie mistake. This is the team I was expecting all season. I knew Bruce would get these guys hustling. All hail BB! GO CAPS!

Posted by: Bears Woooo | December 13, 2007 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Tarik, Mr Brooks from the NYPost is saying Nyles is out with a Rotator Cuff injury and I quote

"Michael Nylander missed his third straight with an injury the Caps refused to disclose in direct violation of NHL policy. The Post has learned that No. 92, expected to return this weekend, is suffering from a rotator cuff injury."

Any word on this..... I read this guy and more and more I get pissed!

Posted by: Darryl | December 13, 2007 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys, we're in a 3-way tie for last place!! WOOO HOOO!! Things are looking up!! ;-) In all seriousness, we are nipping at the heels of FLA, ATL and Buffalo. Overall, we're not out of this yet - after all, we're not even half way through the season!! If they keep playing like this, we could certainly make it to the playoffs (I assume that the "P" word is no longer taboo on this board?!?). But one day at a time - hopefully we are only days away from no longer be in last place!! LET'S GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: Boo! | December 13, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

That was definitely one of the more entertaining games I've been to in recent years.

I'm ashamed to admit it after all of my Shultz bashing...but...I actually applauded the guy a couple of times. But c'mon, after you score a goal to break a tie, show some excitement! :)

With the way the Rangers have been playing lately, I am a little surprised we didn't have an easier time against them and think that the game never should have gone into OT if Olie wasn't taking a nap on that goal.

+2 and a helluva fun night wipes the negatives away.

Posted by: keef | December 13, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

No longer BEING in last place ... all of the excitment has impacted my typing (I better take a sick day).

Posted by: Boo! | December 13, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Schultz should move a wing ... ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | December 13, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

...also forgot to mention that it's great to see just about everyone contributing to these wins. You never know who it's going to come from and that helps make the team that much tougher to beat.

Posted by: keef | December 13, 2007 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Its been a rough season no doubt, but what a game!

I live in NYC, so can't watch as many games as I like, so always try to catch the Caps when they play the 3 local teams on TV...

What a payoff, that was as much fun watching a hockey game as I have had in a while!!!

I know there are still deep issues with the team, but wow they were flyin around last night.

Green is the truf!

Posted by: chrislarry | December 13, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

The "p" word taboo? Remember we're not settling for just the playoffs-not just one goal-we want four, five goals...we want the Cup. Stanley Cup! Repeat after me Ted, Stanley Cup! George and Dick..Stanley Cup! Olie, AO, everybody in the Marketing Department, Joe. B., Locker, Steckel, c'mon Kozlov, ushers, vendors, fans, bloggers, everybody..STANLEY CUP! STANLEY CUP!

O.k. too much coffee, but that was a nice win last night.

Posted by: DarrylHockey | December 13, 2007 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Argh - I keep forgetting to write things. :)

I know I'll get my words handed right back to me by most of you but please remind me again why we signed Semin to the deal we did?

I wasn't a big fan of his play before this season and last night he looked like a lost kid in a department store trying to find his mommy.

Posted by: keef | December 13, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

There may still be a chance to get Green to the All Star game...I think voting goes on until the 1st week of Jan. and you can vote as many times as you want!

Posted by: K | December 13, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I hauled Shanahan down in OT and I'd do it again. Can we be friends now?

Posted by: The Verizon Ice | December 13, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Verizon Ice:
That is the single funniest thing I've read in YEARS - holy crap was that good.

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld | December 13, 2007 9:40 AM | Report abuse

@Steve R.

On Recchi scoring and us missing him.

I suggested as strongly as I could that on re-entry waivers at half price, he's a bargain. Oh, how I heard about that! Don't want an over the hill guy cast off 3 times from Pitts, Philly and Carolina and he only scores 20 goals a year.

Stupid! We could have had him. He would have been far better than Kozlov out there at 5 times the price.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 13, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

@Keef

RE: With the way the Rangers have been playing lately, I am a little surprised we didn't have an easier time against them and think that the game never should have gone into OT if Olie wasn't taking a nap on that goal.

I hate to say it, but the Rangers tying goal really wasn't Olie's fault. Granted, he shouldv'e done better controlling the rebound, but Backstrom's inexpierience was to blame on that goal. He shouldv'e just tucked the biscuit under Olie, instead of trying to clear the puck. The Cap's were dominating in the faceoff circle, so a defensive zone draw wouldv'e been better than a goal against.

But overall, I was very pleased at the way the Caps, for the second game in a row, fell behind and found a way to win. something they never did with Hanlon at the helm. They just seem SOOO much more confident now in themselves and in this new system under BB.

Posted by: Matt | December 13, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

My goal now is kinda like last seasons "Vote for Rory" campaign in Vancouver last season, VOTE FOR GREENY!!!!

The difference being that Mike actually deserves to be there, where as Rory ABSOLUTELY did not!

C'mon Caps Nation, lets VOTE FOR GREENY!!!!!!

Posted by: Matt | December 13, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

@Matt: Point taken - there was definitely quite a bit of confusion down there in that 3sec timespan. I have been noticing Olie's slow to get up in some of those situations though - age? I'm still pulling for us to pick up Lundy in the offseason.

It was great to see the team celebrating together on the ice for a while after Green's goal. It's amazing how much they appear to be playing for one another now.

Posted by: keef | December 13, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Kolzig on DC101 today said that Nyles is out with a shoulder injury, but should be back this weekend - possibly the Detroit game. Clark - he should be back next Thursday.
I agree with the person who said that was the best game they have seen. I don't think the Rangers deserved a point, but oh well, we got 2.

6 points out... it's early, but they got us fired up now... the arena was pretty intense last night.

How bout that picture of JAGR... even he had to laugh at that one... that was awesome!!!

Posted by: 828 | December 13, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Keef - Olie said that no one told him to get up. I guess as a goalie, you stay put because the puck may be underneath you... so, I can buy that. And yes, Backstrom should have just tucked it under Olie.

Posted by: 828 | December 13, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Really, none of the goals allowed last night were really Olie's fault.

The first one, Schultz was too slow getting back. The second was just, and I hate saying this, a beautiful pass by JaGirl. The 3rd goal was similiar to the second. Just a nice pass and finish on the PP, and as we allready decided, the 4th was just an inexpierienced play by Backstrom.

Overall, a great win though. For once Olie looked good, not great, but good.

Posted by: Matt | December 13, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Backstrom did tap olies pads on that play to tell him to get up, it was just too late.

Posted by: Matt | December 13, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

@828

Actually, the TV replay showed Backstrom tapping Olie to get up after B sent the puck to the point. Problem being that the puck was almost AT the point by the time he told Olie. By the time Olie was getting up and set, the puck was past him. I can't fault Olie on that at all. Newbie error totally.

With games like we saw against NJ and the Rangers, hockey is becoming exciting in DC. It is assured that when we play the Pens and Flyers, they'll also be good games. We play better against these guys than we do in our own conference. I would love to see a realignment to put us in their conference, and put Nashville in our place. The south wanted to seceed once, this is their chance. :)

Posted by: Greg S. | December 13, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Green really benefitted from being down in Hershey at the end of last season. It's totally showed on the ice. Mike is so much fun to watch.

Posted by: IrresistibleForce | December 13, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

pmoravek,
your call, since mauree asked about your "behavior" last night and I was lucky to share a suite with you - I can either paint you as calm and collected and doling out oodles of hockey knowledge OR I can portray you as streaking wildly thru the suite wearing nothing but a mullet wig after the OT goal. Like I said, your call...
Bummed we missed Brash in the wig during warmups. $#@* VC parking garage.

Posted by: the lurker | December 13, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Well Guys...
I gotta disagree about Semin. He's shaking off the rust more and more every game.
He was getting more involved along the boards last night. They have him playing with the invisible man (Koslov) so he's not getting much help.

Nicky B made a rookie mistake. He's still a kid so I'll give him a pass on that one.
He is gonna be an awesome first line center some day.

Kolzig is slower to get up than he has been...but he's getting old. He still looked pretty pissed that he didn't get his pad on that Straka shot.

Schultze doesn't impress me but Gabby does want the d-men more aggressive in between the blue lines. I think his partner could have played that two-on-one better.
Besides...I thought we agreed that we were gonna call him Beaky Buzzard from now on.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Greg S. | December 13, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry...that was the daily news, not the post...

Posted by: Greg S. | December 13, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I have to say that was one of the best hockey games I have been at in a long time last night. Unfortunately, the Rangers' back door goals happened right in front of me. Way too many Rangers fans last night, but at least it made for a good atmosphere. So where are all those Motzko haters today? And anyone that was giving Brash a hard time does not understand his role on this team. We saw it last night.

On a side note, does anyone know where I can go to get in depth game stats? I'd like to see the faceoff numbers from last night. I swear it seemed like Backstrom didn't win a single one last night. Thanks.

Posted by: Phil C. | December 13, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

lurker

OH MY GAWD!!!
The garage is Hellish...no?
I saw the mulleted Brash on the Tivo when I got home. It was pretty funny.
It was also pretty funny watching him deck Colton Orr in the first period.
Maybe if we can get Brash to get after a couple of those parking attendants....hhhmmm?

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

I think two more straight wins by the Caps are required before we can mention the p-word.

Good start for Gabby ... but lots of work still left.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | December 13, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Phil C

Nicky B was 6 for 10 at %38
http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20072008/ES020447.HTM

I'm telling you, the guy wearing Motsko's jersey must have been an imposter.
That curl-n-drag was SHWEET!

Posted by: pmoravek | December 13, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Let's hope Green finally cracks the TSN list of top 20 defensemen. Statistically, he's there. So, maybe he'll finally get some recognition.

In a semi-related matte, has anyone else who skates at KCI noted the massive declien in ice quality? It was never great, but I skated (after the game, thank you) and it was the most rutted, uneven, mushy, I've seen in a long time. Maybe they are trying to make it more like VC.

Posted by: old time hockey | December 13, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Tell all your friends to get tix to Friday's game... could we at least have more fans there than the 'lows?

Good news is that the Sabres have been streaky... I want a route like that game last year - 7-2 or something like that...

Posted by: 828 | December 13, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

TSN.CA finally listed Green as "Hot"!

I really like this kid. I vote to move Poti's contract to Green, and give Poti's his.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 13, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

You Stay Classy Motsko

Posted by: Ron Burgandy | December 13, 2007 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I got my tix!!
Let's get the 4th on Friday!!
Let's hope they can keep up the intesity!!
BB has made a world of difference. These guys look EXACTLY like the Hershey Bears the last two years in the sense off timely scoring, constant pressure, soild defense, fun to watch (c:

Posted by: CantMissKid | December 13, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Huzzah for Mike Green's goal being named Sportscenter's top play of the day. He's not going unnoticed.

Posted by: Whiter Mage | December 13, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

caps have 26 points, 13 in the past 10. if they keep that pace up over the rest of the season, that equals 95 pts....right on the cusp probably....

Posted by: P Work | December 13, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

@P Work
One game at a time, my friend, one game at a time (c:

Posted by: CantMissKid | December 13, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

@The Verizon Ice

I'm gunning for you, man.

Posted by: The Flaming Zamboni | December 13, 2007 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Thanks pmoravek. So it just seemed like he lost them all...

Posted by: Phil C. | December 13, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Heard one of the Caps in an interview this morning. Nylander's injury came up, and then a couple of comments later he said something like, "...maybe that's how he hurt his shoulder."

Posted by: NoOneYouKnow | December 13, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

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