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Semin could be out vs. Thrashers

I'm going to be tied up with some reporting and writing this afternoon, but I wanted to share a few updates on the injured/ill Caps:

*Coach Bruce Boudreau said the team will likely have to call up two forwards for tomorrow's game in Atlanta because Alexander Semin is "touch and go" with an illness and Boyd Gordon is still battling a sore back. Both players, though, are going on the road trip.

*Shaone Morrisonn (lower body injury) will be a game-time decision.

*Michael Nylander won't play, in part because the team is still hopeful of moving him.

*Jose Theodore (back spasms) is ready to return, but it's looking like he'll back up Semyon Varlamov in Atlanta.

*Defenseman John Erskine (bruised hand) also will travel with the team.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  October 21, 2009; 11:54 AM ET
 
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And let the "play Nylander" gripes and groans begin!

Posted by: PhilR | October 21, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Just say no to griping and groaning.

Posted by: _Mark | October 21, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

@PhilR

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Anyone else still actually believe that he will see ice time in a Caps uniform? If this doesn't prove you wrong, I don't know what will.

Posted by: JD09 | October 21, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

gonchar is out for awhile with a broken wrist

Posted by: _stevo | October 21, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

*Michael Nylander won't play, in part because the team is still hopeful of moving him.

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This is news?

Posted by: schnozzle | October 21, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

How come Nylander won't play?
lol

Posted by: jmy999 | October 21, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

yeah whats the dillyo with Nylander? He seems a fine capable player. Its all very confusing.

@cstanton1

Me too. But my question was whether he was ready for 2nd line minutes full-time in LA. I'm not sure he is, though I'd love to have him on our checking line and PK.

Posted by: richmondphil | October 21, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Even if he's playing above his head on the 2nd line at this point in his career, it would be good for his development. And for the Caps future, to get a young strong forward who actually has the potential to crack a scoring line and still have the prototypical "checking-line" skills. He'd be an upgrade over Clark or Fehr :)

Can't see the Kings giving him up though, he fits right in with the type of players they've added to their roster over the past 2 seasons. Just happily surprised that someone else knows about Wayne Simmonds.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 21, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Ha- this Nylander drama is getting interesting - they must really hate this guy!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 21, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I hope they don't make Gordon carry all the suitcases since he isn't playing. That would only aggravate the back. And Erskine shouldn't carry anything with that bruised hand. I wonder if those extra two players fit within the cap? I know Aucoin fits, but supposedly that's all the room they had.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 21, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

So any guesses who the "two forwards" might be? Have to say Aucoin wouldn't be one as he didn't look that effective last week. Perhaps Giroux and or Andrew Gordon?
http://newfaux.blogspot.com/

Posted by: fauxrumors | October 21, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

But that doesn't mean Gordo is a finesse player. Perhaps you should explain what you mean by a finesse player. You appear to be contradicting yourself.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | October 20, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I misspoke as i explained earlier. He's not a stereotypical finesse player because he lacks topshelf skills. He's a grinder who thru his lack of strength and durability is fairly ineffective playing a grinder role the way a Steckel is. Gordo doesn't win battles for pucks along the boards, he doesn't do anything in front of the net etc. I could have explained it better the first time.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 21, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

With Gonchar out, expect Pens to nosedive just like last year. I wish Gonchar a happy recovery, but don't rush, Oleg, you know, it won't give you any good.

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

How about we leave the bickering from the previous post in the previous post. Much more boring and already overplayed Nylander drama to be found after this report.

Posted by: Chad8 | October 21, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Empty Netters on Gonchar: "Broken bone in wrist. 4-6 weeks."

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Alex "tough as nails" Semin will not let the sniffles keep him out of the game tomorrow.

Posted by: SA-Town | October 21, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

@SA-town

Hysterical

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 21, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't get the "play Nylander" mentality. I hope he never gets the chance to suit up again.

Posted by: Unleash_The_Caps | October 21, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

If the Caps ACTUALLY think they can move Nyls, then fine, don't play him. But if that's just pie in the sky thinking, then calling up guys who hurt our salary cap position instead of using a guy who could make the third line an offensive weapon, seems silly. I hope this isn't a war of wills, in which they try to move him and he says "NMC" and they say "sit here until you change your mind".

Posted by: oldtimehockey | October 21, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

PhilR: who on earth would want to play nylander on this team?

Posted by: remain | October 21, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The Bruins are pretty banged up. Both Lucic and Savard on LTIR, plus they've started a bit sluggish. Do I smell a trade? Semin anyone???

Posted by: j3rockstar | October 21, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I think Nyls said 'I want to go to KHL' and they are trying to execute that. It's pretty much up to Nyls with NMC. Basically he has agreed to be moved on his choice of the destination.

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Unleash_The_Caps, that's pretty harsh. I hope he gets the chance to play somewhere, anywhere. Maybe not here, but never to suit up again is harsh.

Posted by: _Mark | October 21, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

There is absolutely no way they would trade Semin to one of their greatest competitors this year, that would just be silly. If Semin goes anywhere (and I hope he doesn't) it will be to the western conference if GMGM has any sense whatsoever!

Posted by: PhilR | October 21, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

We are coming up on the 30 day rule after the waivers clause. It may seem like this is dragging on...but please read this explanation so the Nyls aka "Circles" talk can stop. Sometime this week the 30 days waiting period should be up and you will hear about him moving or being stuck with the team.
http://www.japersrink.com/2009/6/15/906639/a-potential-nylander-move-to-the

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Do I smell a trade? Semin anyone???

Here is the hint:
TarikElBashir: Alexander Semin is not on the ice for practice. He has missed two of the past three. On Monday it was an illness.

Today is Wednesday. Are packaging Nyls and Semin together? That could make it easier to get rid of Nyls.

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I did hear about a Nylander sighting in DC...he was seen in Dupont Circle in his car driving around and around and around and around non stop for a couple of hours....LOL

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

For all you salary cap experts, please explain

At the start of the season, the Caps had to keep Boyd Kane over Chris Borque due to the salary cap. At that time, no one was on LTIR, so they were $12,500 under the cap. Then they put Flash on LTIR making it possible to bring up Aucoin. So how can they now recall two forwards to play for Semin and Gordon, yet no one is on LTIR. How are they not over the cap?

@j3rockstar I doubt if they will trade Semin this season, especially if they can get 4 first round picks in the off season. If they were to trade him, I think they'd send him out west. Besides, how is Semin going to shake the Bruins out of there sluggish start?

Posted by: ablake70 | October 21, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

@Capscrew, that's interesting, but I don't think the 30 days matters. They haven't waived Nylander that I'm aware of, so that doesn't even enter into it.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | October 21, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

even if he waives his clause so we can waive him (which i think he might finally be will to do now that Swiss HC Lugano is interested)...still have to wait the 30 days before we can waive him. It was confusing to me too, but that is exactly what is happening.

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I did hear about a Nylander sighting in DC...he was seen in Dupont Circle in his car driving around and around and around and around non stop for a couple of hours....LOL

Posted by: capscrew

Thanks, having a crappy day at work and that made me laugh.

Posted by: pkendrick | October 21, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Anybody knows which of the Western Conference teams GMGM is most friendly with? Any history? Wait, GMGM gave up on Bryzgalov in favor of Coyotes...

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm just saying. The Bruins have like 6 first and second round picks in the next two years. If The Leafs continue to suck, they could have THE first round pick next year. The Caps will have an issue signing both Backs and Bongo. It's a business thing. I for one am not the biggest Semin fan (I think his work ethic isnt the best), and I am a fan of both The B's and The Caps and I think a trade like that may help both teams.

Posted by: j3rockstar | October 21, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

@CodePoetry: If Semin actually is sick, there's a good chance it's the flu. The flu would normally put a player down for a few days. Given the team's problem with the flu running through practically everyone last year, a bit of extra precaution is in order.

@ablake70: I think opposing teams may be wary of a Semin trade too. His performance away from his buddies is already iffy, and if he can't stay with Ovechkin and Backstrom, does anyone honestly think he won't go to the KHL next year? I don't see any team giving up much for him under the circumstances, at least not before the deadline, and dumping such a talented player for little return makes no sense. I'll acknowledge my judgment may be clouded by the fact Semin is my favorite NHL player though.

Posted by: swags | October 21, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

LamboGreenie has just put a video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L4PIEbh5fw

Way to go, is Stretch's job in jeopardy?

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Boys and girls: the "trade Semin" rumors are just that. Rumors. If Coach says he's sick, I have no reason to believe otherwise, and I *don't* want him out there coughing on anyone else on the team and making them sick too! So let's please drop it.

First, we wouldn't be dumb enough to trade him to the Penguins/Flyers/any Eastern Conference team.

Second, I don't expect we'd be dumb enough to trade him just to offload Michael ("No Movement Clause, Dammit") Nylander.

And third, trading him would be shooting ourselves in the foot.

Semin's health is more important than whether he plays against Atlanta or not.

Posted by: irockthered | October 21, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

No Nylander once again

Posted by: arcassells | October 21, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

If we can get Nyls salary off the cap and Theo won't be re-signed, and either Poti or Pothier will be gone with all the D prospects we have, that should free up about 10 or 11 mil...enough to sign Backstrom and Semin both...plus Sasha is OV's best friend...keep OV happy!

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70 - We can call up 2 players because Flash is on LTIR for the next 2 games. That means his salary does not count against the cap so the 500K we had room for to bring Aucoin up before is now 1.225M (Flash's salary is 725K).

And an FYI the available players to be called up who fit under the salary cap are as follows...

Perreault
Pinizzotto
A. Gordon
Wilson
Kane
Giroux
Aucoin

Beagle, Osala or Bouchard all have a higher cap hit then Flash does right now.

Posted by: pkendrick | October 21, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I think Poti or Pothier will be gone soon anyway because it will free up space as well as as get you a couple of draft picks to reload Hershey.

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

If you get rid of nyls there is no reason to move Semin, unless you know you cannot sign him to an extension due to salary demands and other extensions in the works. Only GMGM and Semin would know the answer and it would not make sense until near the deadline to utilize Semin as long as possible. I think Semin stays. He has picked up his defensive game since the 2nd week and has been skating hard.

The pot could be sweetened with picks or prospects. The caps have '11 NHL d-men', so they could move one(with a lower body injury) to move nyls.

I think it is a little early in the season to see major salary trades in the NHL without injury.

According to the Russian source nobody is interested since he hasn't played. If this is the case, then GMGM and BB may need to showcase nyls after the olympic break to get a trade partner at the deadline. You have plenty of time to dust off the NYL's sweater.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | October 21, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Big WoJo would be good...

33 ADRIAN AUCOIN
55 ED JOVANOVSKI
18 SAMI LEPISTO
4 ZBYNEK MICHALEK
44 KURT SAUER
2 JAMES VANDERMEER
3 KEITH YANDLE

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

GMGM knows something we don't, that why we are carrying 8 D-men right now. That can't happen all season, when Alzner and Carlson are waiting to come up as well.

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

@Creek1...

Good point...Morrison may be the odd man out, we know he won't be resigned next year either, better to get rid of him for something now than just let him go as a UFA later.

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Jovo’s salary: $6.5 million

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

On June 27, 2009, Lepistö was traded by the Capitals to the Phoenix Coyotes for a fifth-round pick in the 2010 draft.

See? There's a history for GMGM...

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 21, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

@pkendrick I wish they would call Wilson up instead of Aucoin. I thought he looked really good in preseason and should be given a chance.

Posted by: ablake70 | October 21, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The more important thing is when Flash comes back Laing or Sloan is going to be put on waivers or a trade will happen. We can only carry 23 players on the active roster. So some movement is going to happen here within the next 10 days.

Posted by: ThePat | October 21, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

@Captain Kirk:

I read every single day, but since it had been a while, I could not resist a post.

BTW, I see GMGM & BB two or three times a week while we watch our kids play and practice hockey. Just two lovable guys with funny stories and totally normal character. It is kinda hard to get used to for a Caps fan like me, so I mostly hang back and listen.

A while back, you had GMGM, BB and Peter Bondra all chatting together in a big circle. Cool for sure.

Posted by: WhyGo | October 21, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70 - I wasn't impressed with Wilson but I did like A. Gordon. I would like to see him get a shot.

Posted by: pkendrick | October 21, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

@pkendrick...

I agree...Gordon looked good in preseason...also, I wish i could take credit for the circles joke...but I stole it from my buddy...got a kick out of that one too.

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

If the Russian club wants to see Nylander play before they'll take him, what harm is done by putting him in a few games? Either he can a)convince the Russians to take him, b)convince another NHL team to take him c)help the team or d)prove that everyone was right about him so the issue will never be raised again. I can't see how the Caps lose in this situation.

Posted by: ablake70 | October 21, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70...

Once we play him, we have to wait 30 more days to waive him as per NHL guidelines, assuming he waives his NMC. By the end of this week, we will have let 30 days since the preseason waiver period, that is why nothing has been done yet.

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

If the Russian club wants to see Nylander play before they'll take him, what harm is done by putting him in a few games? Either he can a)convince the Russians to take him, b)convince another NHL team to take him c)help the team or d)prove that everyone was right about him so the issue will never be raised again. I can't see how the Caps lose in this situation.

Posted by: ablake70

It's great in theory but this is all speculation as to why no team in Russia wants him. I am sure that if any of those teams said "I want to see him play and make sure and then we will take him" then GMGM would be more then happy to put him out there.

Posted by: pkendrick | October 21, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

e) he gets hurt and all the gmgm haters come out and get belliegernt about why Nyls was playing in the first place.

Posted by: superpaqman | October 21, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

If the Russian club wants to see Nylander play before they'll take him, what harm is done by putting him in a few games? Either he can a)convince the Russians to take him, b)convince another NHL team to take him c)help the team or d)prove that everyone was right about him so the issue will never be raised again. I can't see how the Caps lose in this situation.

Posted by: ablake70 | October 21, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

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First, when did they say they want to see him play before considering him?

Second, to answer your question he could get injured.

Third, he could continue to play poorly under Boudreau's system and his talents would not be showcased particularly well.

Posted by: CapsChick | October 21, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70...

Once we play him, we have to wait 30 more days to waive him as per NHL guidelines, assuming he waives his NMC. By the end of this week, we will have let 30 days since the preseason waiver period, that is why nothing has been done yet.

Posted by: capscrew

Thanks for clarifying that one capscrew. I was reading Japers but it wasn't making sense to me.

Posted by: pkendrick | October 21, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

CodePoetry:
don't forget about "Jose Theodore (back spasms) is ready to return, but it's looking like he'll back up Semyon Varlamov in Atlanta". GMGM might have something in the works here too. wouldn't want to get theo really hurt if he were to be packaged with nyls. if you ask me - something big came up between periods 1 and 2 of the san jose game. *conspiracy theory grinning*

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 21, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm just saying. The Bruins have like 6 first and second round picks in the next two years. If The Leafs continue to suck, they could have THE first round pick next year. The Caps will have an issue signing both Backs and Bongo. It's a business thing. I for one am not the biggest Semin fan (I think his work ethic isnt the best), and I am a fan of both The B's and The Caps and I think a trade like that may help both teams.

Posted by: j3rockstar


The Bruins just traded 2 picks for ex-1st rounder Daniel Paille. Tough kid who hustles hard, never turned out to be a scorer type, more like a Matt Pettinger type when Petty was younger. After dumping Kobasew's contract and losing Lucic etc, they are hoping Paille and Weller can hold the fort until they get some players back.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 21, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

he could still say no and we just have to keep him and suck it up...word has it, the latest rumor about him going to play for his old coach in Switzerland are legit, but still can't happen until the end of this week.

Posted by: capscrew | October 21, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Assuming Semin has the flu, should he really go on the road trip, i.e., fly with the team and share a room with another Cap - two prime ways to spread the virus? At the very least, Semin should take another flight and be given his own room.

Posted by: Monty2 | October 21, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

There is absolutely no way they would trade Semin to one of their greatest competitors this year, that would just be silly. If Semin goes anywhere (and I hope he doesn't) it will be to the western conference if GMGM has any sense whatsoever!

Posted by: PhilR | October 21, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

what if the Caps get good return on Semin from the Bruins? Not just draft picks but maybe pick up a young defenseman like Mark Stuart. Any trade can cut both ways, it doesn't have to be a foregone conclusion that trading Semin to a conf rival will autobite us.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 21, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Love Semin, but we all no he's not that effective when he's not 100%. So I'd let him sit for tomorrow.

Not sure if its possible because of the cap, but I'd be interested in bringing in Giroux to work on the 2nd line. I realize there are a lot of question marks about his ability to get the job done on the NHL level, but maybe thats related to assigning him to 3rd/4th line duty and a lack of ice time. Let him get into the groove with skilled linemates and maybe he can breakout.

Posted by: justbrewit | October 21, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I want to keep Semin because his skills are insane and he can play with the best of them. I think Ovie is a great influence on him as well. I also agree with the "keep Ovie happy" statement above and you keep him.

On the other hand, if we can a big, stud, lockdown defenseman for him then I think you have to at least consider it.

Posted by: pkendrick | October 21, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

What's the story with the new draft, Cody Eakin? Does "entry level contract" mean he is going to Hershey?

The Atlanta goalies are hot. Pavelec stopped 34 out of 35 shots in regulation at their last game against Montreal. We will have to really play like grown ups to win this one. Is it only me who is worrying about this game? So far, I have not been impressed by the Caps ability to close deals and sustain performance levels.

Posted by: caraveli | October 21, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

@pkendrick I didn't see alot of A.Gordon during preseason, but at this point, I'll take any young player over Aucoin. He is a scrappy little guy, but he is EASILY knocked off the puck and at his age, can't help the future of this team.

As for Nyls, even if the Russian club stories are not true, it couldn't hurt to play him. The bottom six (with the exception of Brads) are horrible. They can't control the puck, are not very good on their skates, and can't score. If they aren't going to replace some of those guys with YOUNG guys in Hershey, at least try Nyls.

Posted by: ablake70 | October 21, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

pkendrick...
I believe the Bruins would be interested in moving some of their blueliners to get a solid scoring threat. BTW, my Semin trade suggestion had nothing to do with him being sick yesterday and out today. I believe he is sick. I was just commenting on the needs of two teams that may be in trading market sooner than later.

Posted by: j3rockstar | October 21, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

you gotta remember too, there's more to a Semin trade than simply his skill level. Teams are smart enough to look at EVERYTHING, not just how many points a player puts up. Semin's value will never be greater than the sum of his statistics. The factors that will drive down his open market value:

1--salary
2--lack of being a well rounded player
3--lack of durability
4--questions about what kind of linemates he really needs to be successful
5--possibility of losing him back to Russia once his current contract expires.

Frankly I don't think any team will trade a franchise-level defenseman for Semin. You may get a 2nd line center/winger and a decent young defenseman. For ex -- would the Rangers trade Dubinsky and Staal for Semin? Would the Sharks trade Clowe and Doug Murray? Doubtful, but thats where his market value likely lies. Its not going to be a Dustin Brown and Doughty (or Jack Johnson.)

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 21, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

@pkendrick I didn't see alot of A.Gordon during preseason, but at this point, I'll take any young player over Aucoin. He is a scrappy little guy, but he is EASILY knocked off the puck and at his age, can't help the future of this team.
------------------------------ABlake

totally agree for the reasons you listed - Aucoin is not a valuable missing piece to our puzzle. Not when you have Andrew Gordon and Beagle down at Hershey. Andrew Gordon can play in the NHL. He's got the speed, the tenacity, he's not that big but he plays big and he causes turnovers with his forechecking but can also handle the puck. On most nights, even when Giroux scores 2 goals, AGordon is the Bears best player imo.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 21, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

"Michael Nylander won't play, in part because the team is still hopeful of moving him."


Faulty logic at work.

Posted by: doughless | October 21, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

@pkendrick
I really don't think trading Semin for a stud defensive defenseman will help this team. FSemin is not only the second leading goal scorer, but he also good at setting up scoring chances for non-young guns like Laich and Flash. I believe these guys wouldn't be "20-goal scorers" if not for Semin. All trading Semin would do is expose the lack of scoring depth on this team.

The Caps can win with the defense they have. Instead of talking to them about defense, they need to really work on playing the puck, not screening the goalie, and clearing the crease. Now the bottom six, that is where the overhaul is needed.

Posted by: ablake70 | October 21, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

new post "Nylander to Grand Rapids"

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 21, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Semin's durability wasn't that big of an issue last year. Besides the one injury towards the start of the season that caused him to miss a chunk of games, he was pretty healthy the rest of the year. Among players who played more than like 15 games last season he was FOURTH in points per game behind the Big 3.

Thinking that we could/should trade Semin right now is laughable because the price we would need to get back would be more than anyone else is willing to give up, and for a team that is already struggling with a lack of secondary scoring if you get rid of Semin you'd have to get some goals coming back to us in the deal, because behind Ovie and Semin there is a large gap until Green picks it up.

Until we have a 3rd line that is producing goals like the Penguins 3rd line does I don't see us getting back equal value to what we would be losing. His pluses far outweigh his minuses.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | October 21, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Forget Semin. Green is the one you need to worry about. It's starting to look like he took things for granted. He gained 30 lbs last year DURING THE SEASON? If I exercised like that every day I'd LOSE 30 lbs. And you can't call him secondary scoring--he was out a lot with Ovechkin, either on the pp or with the #1 line. Secondary scoring must come from another line, at even strength, something in short supply with the Caps.

Posted by: ijamsman | October 21, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Umm, people, please put down the crack pipe. Exactly how would the Caps replace the 30-40 goals Semin will score this year? Exactly, they won't, so he's not moving anywhere, at least not til the trade deadline when the team will have a much better idea of his plans for next season. If it looks like he'll bolt for the KHL, and the Caps unthinkably end up in a position to miss the playoffs, then he'll get dealt to a playoff bound team. Otherwise, he stays put.

Also, looks like Aucoin is on his way back to DC:

http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/2009/10/looks_like_washington_has_reca.html

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | October 21, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

pkendrick: Caps were smack dab against the cap and put Flash on LTIR just to get room for Aucoin. They don't have $1.225M in room, just the $725K in Flash's salary. They might have squirreled away enough daily pennies though to afford one extra player for just Thursday. The cap hit for a min salary player for one day is roughly $2600.

On "entry-level contract." This just means he is signed for 2009-2012. He doesn't go to Hershey. As a Major Junior player, he must stay in Juniors I believe unless he jumps to NHL. He can't be assigned to AHL or ECHL unless his four-year Junior obligation has been completed.

Carlson got around this. I believe because he was drafted out of the USHL.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 21, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm on record as saying you don't trade Semin unless you can get a Phaneuf type defender. I watch him play and I don't see any of the laziness some people complain about. I see him sometimes commit stick fouls because he tries to steal the puck. His takeaways are higher than his giveaways and, so far this year, the stick fouls are down. He is a unique talent. Please don't "Larry Murphy" him out of town. We regretted losing Murphy and we'd regret losing Semin.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 21, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1 +1

Posted by: justbrewit | October 21, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I watch him play and I don't see any of the laziness some people complain about
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wow.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 21, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Just as you take offense to people thinking you're an a$$hat and don't really know you, how could you imply that Semin is lazy? If you're spending too much of your time analyzing play after play after play, so that you could get into a pi$$ing match with everyone who posts here, you're clearly not watching it for entertainment. But do carry on, cstanton1, you haven't had a chance to remind me how little I know about hockey and you haven't complimented me on my cheerleading outfit. Tool.

Why are you a Semin hater? Did he turn you down when you asked him out? What gives?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 21, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

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