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Posted at 7:36 PM ET, 11/22/2010

Capitals recall Semyon Varlamov

By Katie Carrera

Washington has recalled goaltender Semyon Varlamov from Hershey. This morning, Coach Bruce Boudreau said that it was no longer a question of health with Varlamov, who was with the Bears on a conditioning stint following the latest flare up of a groin problem, but when he would be game-ready.

Varlamov arrived in New Jersey this afternoon and is listed on the official scoresheet as Braden Holtby's backup and a team spokesman said he will be on the bench soon. For the start of the game however, Michal Neuvirth was on the bench in that role.

I'll have more details on the goaltending swap after the game.

By Katie Carrera  | November 22, 2010; 7:36 PM ET
Categories:  Braden Holtby, Injuries, Michal Neuvirth, Semyon Varlamov  
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Comments

Ovechkin has looked flat out awful for a couple of weeks now. He looks like he needs some extra practice.

The whole team looks flat tonight but 8 has been struggling mightily for a while now. He's doing almost nothing positive.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

that one looked like hotlby's fault to me - d didn't help much there either

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 22, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

That's just embarrassing.

1-on-4 basically.

We've been making the highlights in our own end for all the wrong reasons recently.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic... everything except a few of the grinders and 1 or 2 d-men.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Let's see where this team defense ranks halfway through the season, PK included. Small sample sizes are often misleading.

Ovechkin and his line need to start getting the puck deep and grinding. They aren't doing crap trying to score off rushes right now.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back, Semyon!

On Holtby, while he's been bad as of late, we were going through the same thing with Neuvirth for a period of time last year, specifically the Toronto game in Dec and the Florida games in January.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm listening to the game online down here in Florida, and I am now officially in "worried" mode. This team has lost focus. Holtby is not ready for prime time, but he is not getting any help at all.

Posted by: billracer | November 22, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

news by captain obvious.....sloan is really bad

Posted by: _stevo | November 22, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

This game appears to be a redeux of the Thrashers game on Thursday. Another horrible game.

Is it time for a major trade to happen to shake up the troops, preferably for a good defenseman since our defense is paper thin in depth? Next question, any good defensemen on the market?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see this coming?

We were flooded with stats on how terrible the Devs were all day, and before the game.

And what do we do to start the game, instead of jumping all over a bad team?

We lay a friggin' egg!

Holtby is sometimes too aggressive and his timing on being aggressive is jacked up. Nice to see that Varly is back, Holtby aint ready.

SLOAN BELONGS IN HERSHEY!!!!!!

The American Hero was the only thing that looked decent in that period.

And more of the wiffs and toepicks etc. As with the other night its happening with both teams but seems to happen to us more, and at terrible times.

I AM NOT PLEASED!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | November 22, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Holtby's been bad but it's far beyond just him.

Outside of a few players, the effort was basically nonexistent.

Embarrassing.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

And what in the world is up with 8?

He looks like a guy who's mind is elsewhere?

Is he getting enough rest... enough practice?

Hands of stone, not winning battles along the boards, etc...

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Not saying Holtby is a bad goalie at all, he simply hasn't been seasoned to play in the NHL yet. I mean Neuvy keeps us in the game almost single handedly and with defense like what the Caps have, you need a goalie making highlight reel saves and he's not anywhere close. But I guess it's good experience for him.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I'd include inconsistent backchecking and effort in the d-zone but that's always been the case. It looks worse though when he's playing poorly offensively.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

OV has been a non-factor for the last half dozen games. Something is going on. He seems to have lost is intensity and stick handling ability.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

@wtf_e_fehr

I'm not pleased either.

I could see this coming, as well. The Caps have a horrible track record against the Devils in NJ.

I'm not a fan of King and think he has less to offer in a lineup than the rest of our guys but we may have to dress him next game to send a message to the rest of the team.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I've been saying that about Sloan forever. He's a decent skater and a hardworker but he totally lacks the hockey IQ to play at this level.

At the very best, he should be an extra forward. He's just too mistake prone, positioning-wise and with the puck, to be an NHL blueliner.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Caps are playing 'Playoff' hockey.

Posted by: festus75 | November 22, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Holy mother of God!!! Whats going on with the Caps. Guess I should be glad I missed the 1st period.

Posted by: instinct227 | November 22, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I think at this point, one would have to assume is that OV's play shows he wants BB fired. Nothing else makes any sense.

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

lol, nearly another 1-on-3 goal... from Zubrus. You don't see that often.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Outworked... skating poorly, late to react, losing individual battles.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

A lot of AHL teams would be up on the Caps right now with this level of effort and execution.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I think at this point, one would have to assume is that OV's play shows he wants BB fired. Nothing else makes any sense.

Posted by: underpants2
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I think you're on to something.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I say cancel the PP and get some more even-strength practice... heh.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe next practice should be mandatory.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

what a lazy team!

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Fail. Total failure.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Pay back time

Posted by: instinct227 | November 22, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

They deserve to get shut out for the rest of the month.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

And nobody should use the "revenge factor" excuse for NJ.

This is us purely sucking on a total team level.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

We are worse than we were last year.

But on to the good news, three more years of Poti.

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

This is horrendous. I'm surprised Holtby is still in the game. They werent all his fault, but still a bit surprising he's still in there

Posted by: aglatfelter | November 22, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

What is happening?

Holtby's trade value.................................boom.

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe this. Why does this team not come out ready to play?

It all starts with the coach and the CAPTAIN. Ovie needs to step it up. BIG TIME.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

THANK GOD FOR MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL!!!

THIS IS UNWATCHABLE HOCKEY!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | November 22, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I actually think that 8 loves Boudreau. He knows that Boudreau doesn't hold him accountable for a lot of stuff that others coaches probably would.

I don't buy that at all.

I'd be more inclined to believe that 8's mind is on selling DVDs and partying and other extracurricular stuff, leading to a lack of good focus on and off the ice.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Holtby stopped one!

Posted by: billracer | November 22, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

My kool-aid tastes funny.

Posted by: aglatfelter | November 22, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Correction, Joe B: The way the Caps are playing, the Devils are going for double figures.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Remember, Hedberg was once a hot goaltender against us.

Who wasn't?

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

ovechkin is nonexistent

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

hendricks looks like the only guy who cares

Posted by: _stevo | November 22, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

i'm with ya wtf... bout to switch to MNF

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

My kool-aid tastes funny.

Posted by: aglatfelter

3 more years of Poti!

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

My kool-aid tastes funny.

Posted by: aglatfelter | November 22, 2010 8:22 PM

not much to smile about tonight - but this did the trick

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 22, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

@Loyd
@underpants

When I brought up Ovi and Backi "sandbagging"" BB, people dumped on me for days. Did it ever occur to some Caps fans that some of the players who are now serious vets, also know they're not playing for a potential cUp winning coach.

Isle's fans never saw Al Arbour doing bird call and "jinxy" cUp ads when they were burning down Patrick Division foe's buildings as they "just passed through" town. Those guys were all business. (Potvin beat our forwards to death.) We're not "all business". This is the "stay angry" year ???????????????

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | November 22, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

I think most of the forwards absolutely love Boudreau and his loose, run 'n gun system.

I don't buy that at all.

I actually think that a lot of these forwards, 8 included, fear having another coach come in.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I think stay-at-home d-men and goalies would be more likely not to believe in Boudreau.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

No one is accountable in this organization. If they were, they would not be rewarded for yearly playoff collapses.

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was just me,but after reading some of these post im glad to see im not the only one that thinks holtby aint nhl ready.
NOTE TO BB AND GMGM:
stop tryn to push holtby to be another rookie sensation goalie for the caps.HES NOT READY!as much as everyone wants to see him do good its just not his time.leave him in hershey for a yr or two.let varly come back and see what hes got.welcome back varly!sorry holtby but nice try,you need some practice still.go caps!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | November 22, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

this is the new democratic nhl - where the haves give to the have nots

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 22, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

It's been three years since Boudreau took over and the team is still making the exact same mistakes, over and over and over again. Have the players tuned him out? It's starting to feel that way. I like Boudreau and he's done a good job of turning the team around, but I wonder if he's taken these players as far as he can. It might be time for a stern hand behind the bench. What's Ken Hitchcock doing these days?

Posted by: spacecadetkid | November 22, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is not playing like he is afraid of another coach right now. He is playing like he wants one.

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

That I agree with.

I still find it insane that after multiple poastseason failures, we started this season with 4 defensemen 25 and under, 3 babies in net and a 20-year-old center who never played NA hockey.

That's what rebuilding teams do.

One trade deadline won't be enough to address all those needs. We needed to make moves this offseason and before the deadline.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

8 trying to go 1-on-3... rejected!

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I agreed with the "accountability" issue to be specific.

I sustain that Ovechkin loves Boudreau and that his craptastic play has zero to do with him not liking him.

Again, defensive-minded players are more likely to see flaws in Boudreau's "systems" and coaching methods, in my opinion.

8 loves the lack of structure and accountability and that is more likely to be the problem.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

How's this for a scenario:
Trade Varly + MP + low pick to NJD for Travis Zajac (Njd needs a goalie for when Marty steps down, and mp so they wont take on any more salary)

Flash+ to Van for Bieksa (Van needs to dump salary and have plenty of capable defenders)

Bury Sloan in the minors (or keep him as 23rd skater) and trade Steckel for a low pick to i.e. Canes that needs a good faceoff-guy (wins 39,9 % as a team).

If this were to occur today, (and we dont keep Sloan) this would leave us about 1,5 mil salary to spend, which right now means a player with a 2 mil caphit. And at the trade deadline a player with give or take 6,5 mil hit.
That would be enough for a goalie (Vokoun? but he would probably cost to much in exchange) if needed.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.

For this year we then have:
Ovi-Backs-Knuble
Semin-Zajac-Laich
Fehr-MaJo-Chimera
Bradley-Gordon-Hendricks
DJ King

Bieksa-Green
Schultz-Poti
Alzner-Carlson
Erskine (Sloan)

Neuvirth-Holtby

And maybe something like this for next year:

FORWARDS
Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Backstrom ($6.700m) / Semin ($6.500m)
Fehr ($2.200m) / Zajac ($3.887m) / Laich ($3.600m)
A.Gordon ($0.550m) / Johansson ($0.900m) / Chimera ($1.875m)
Bradley ($1.000m) / B.Gordon ($0.850m) / Hendricks ($0.600m)
D.J. King ($0.637m) / Beagle ($0.512m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kevin Bieksa ($3.750m) / Mike Green ($5.250m)
Jeff Schultz ($2.750m) / Tom Poti ($2.875m)
Karl Alzner ($1.000m) / John Carlson ($0.845m)
John Erskine ($1.300m)

GOALTENDERS
Michal Neuvirth ($1.150m) /Braden Holtby ($0.637m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,909,573; BONUSES: $80,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $490,427

Posted by: Walle | November 22, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

They have played on par with my adult hockey team. Definitely sharing the same compete level... Zero! More like let's get this over with so we can drink beer after the game. I thought the hit a new low against ATL but this effort has far surpassed it.

Posted by: jdove80 | November 22, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I've been suggesting for a while that 8 actually needs the guidance of a coach that he doesn't like that demands that he play a more complete game.

I think you have it the exact opposite. 8 loves playing for Boudreau and for some of the wrong reasons.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, BB has stated he lets OV do whatever he wants. How is he ever suppose to get better if he doesn't get coached? It seems like top defensemen can bait OV into his signature swoop into the top slot and shoot method and he hasn't really developed in the last 2 years. It seems like he's actually gotten a little bit worse because he hasn't evolved into a more complete player. It's a bit unfortunate while his elite peers are now passing him by and he's stuck on the BB train.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Can someone tell me why Ovechkin would be scared of a new coach? He's arguably the best player in the NHL. What is a new coach going to do? Bench him? The guy wants to win. He's in a slump right now...big freaking deal. It's freaking November! Why on earth would you want the Caps to be peaking right now? Let them struggle a bit and fight through some adversity. Do you really want everything in the regular season to come easy? Seems that hasn't played in our favor the last few years. If this is how they are playing in March then it may be time to worry a little but not in November. I'd rather go through some tough times now and be ready when it counts. Go Caps!!

Posted by: goroyals_kc | November 22, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

After watching the Caps play horrible I can always come to this board and see the ridiculous overreacting to make me laugh.

You guys are hilarious!

Posted by: sgm3 | November 22, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I've now heard a report that Neuvy got injured today which is the reason for Varly's recall. (And not just the fact that Holtby's had two consecutive bad games.)

But the timing of the Varly post was interesting.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

The Devils haven't done anything special tonight and that may be the worst part of it.

We just played so horribly that their normal effort is looking this dominant. They've been working hard all season long but it never payed off to this degree until they ran into this awful performance.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

After watching the Caps play horrible I can always come to this board and see the ridiculous overreacting to make me laugh.

You guys are hilarious!

Posted by: sgm3

Jim Jones Junior

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

the only good thing is that this crap is happening now and not just before the playoffs or in the playoffs.

i don't have an answer to solve the current problem. can't really understand a team of professional athletes refuse to earn their pay?

I guess we should get ready for posts from BigLameCindy on how bad our russians are. he'll be a little late because we've all said it already.

i'm starting to feel like i'm watching the deadskins. if you're a bad team in desperate need of a win, come play us, we'll give it to you.

Posted by: natresgroup | November 22, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

That's exactly what I've been saying about 8 for a while but in his case, I think it goes beyond BB.

We are tied to 8 for a lot of money for a lot of years and he's a player who's elite play is largely based on his physical abilities, not what's in between the ears.

For an elite player, in my opinion, he needs more guidance and teaching than some of his counterparts. All young players need to continue learning at this level but it's too a greater extent with 8, imo.

If we don't want to be stuck with a physcially declining $10 million player down the line, a coach who teaches and demands that he learn the finer points of the game and play a more complete brand of hockey may be a good idea.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Just got home and turned on a nightmare. However the comments on CI tonight are hilarious: "Caps are playing playoff hockey, My Kool Aid tasted funny, Jim Jones Junior"! Good stuff, made me laugh!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | November 22, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

We are first in the Conference still, so I am not calling for BB head yet. Ovechkin is the Captain and he needs to step up and act like it. The coach can only get player going so much. A true captain should be able to get his team fired up, and lead by example. Ovechikn has been all of year. Everytime he enters the zone and stick handles he loses the puck. I do think the Caps need a veteran in net. Holtby is not NHL ready yet. Varly can't stay health and Neuvy is still young. I think its time to move flash along with varly or holtby. We are starting to give up a ton of goals... Anyone at all thinking along same lines as me?

Posted by: CapsBaby | November 22, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

im not ready to go to the darkside, and there is a lot of season to go, but the Caps really need to step it up, especially on the road. We are good at home, but we just can't seem to play on the road.

Posted by: aglatfelter | November 22, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin def. has been down lately. I am not sure I am going to blame the coach, at least not for his play. When your the best player (although he's not right now) you have to keep yourself at that level.

Now the rest of the team, that is another story. The Caps under BB have had a tendency to show up for only part of a game and out "talent" other teams. It doesn't take much coaching skill to do that. I think he needs to do a better job of getting a team ready to play a full game.

I think you can play his system and be successful, but he needs to get them to do it shift after shift.

Posted by: SFcapsfan | November 22, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3

We're just connecting the dots to last year, AND other massive playoff failures. Not an over reaction. Where is the team that just played Philly so well????????????????????????

Connect the dots. Atlanta game - horrible, Flyers - great, NJ - horrible.

Bad coach? Team that doesn't have the "hockey guts" to win a cUp?

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | November 22, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Katie & company,

I don't think fatigue/injuries/illness can entirely explain what's going on here. I have to think there's something else that's systemically wrong.

I have one question for you which is entirely speculative:

What's the general mood in the clubhouse? Is there any unusual tension this year among Boudreau, his staff and the players?

An ardent Caps fan since 1974-75, I've seen it all. That said, I've never seen a Caps team this talented falter so much.

Let's hope some rest and home cooking is all that eludes this team right now. Let's go Caps!

Posted by: Terptwin | November 22, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I do not think those who are critical or worried are overreacting. The Caps, while (for the moment still) in 1st place, have had repeated significant stretches for the entire season of very sloppy defense which is now coming home to roost - plus a very young not ready for the NHL goalie. And here we are down 5-0. The Caps are not as good as last year, and if no changes are made as time goes on this will become more obvious. There is no doubt that something is wrong with Ovechkin - possibly a hand injury, possibly personal distractions, possibly gun-shy since last season when he was suspended, or all of the above. While other teams certainly key on him, this is true of all great players and they find a way to get it done one way or another. Coaching continues to be a concern as well - Boudreau, as fun a guy as he is, doesn't look to be right to get this team to the next level or to keep us on top now. The same issues that were on display last year are more painfully obvious this season - out of position on defense, lousy PK, too cute on the PP. Poti and Knuble being out certainly isn't helping, but we need 1 or 2 more adult defenseman who can shut down other teams - and to move the puck on offense, get traffic and shoot instead of all the passing.

I hope things will get better but unless Ovie comes out of whatever is bothering him and we get some new D, and potentially make a coaching change, this team is going to continue to disappoint.

Posted by: remy117 | November 22, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Neuvirth has a throat injury. He threw up in his mouth early in the first.

Posted by: underpants2 | November 22, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

i can't believe they've run into another hot goalie.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 22, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

After watching the Caps play horrible I can always come to this board and see the ridiculous overreacting to make me laugh.

You guys are hilarious!

Posted by: sgm3

... This team still hasn't proved they know how to win in the playoffs.. I don't get where this team gets a pass on everything because they've been so good in the regular season the past few years. They haven't proved anything.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

It is really time to trade either Varlamov or Holtby for a veteran goalie just for insurance sake. I am also wondering what is going on with Ovechkin, it just seems like he is really out of it and has lost all his quickness and strength. Hope he is just trying too hard, however this is probably the worst we have seen him play in 6 years. can't keep depending on Fehr and Chimera for your primary scoring. Obviously Backstrom has the "Big Contract" blues while Semin is just being the "Inconsistent" Semin that we know, but Ovechkin is really out of character! Hopefully he is not having a Tiger Woods-esque deterioration already.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 22, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Wake-up call for management. Come on GMGM. Pull the trigger on a trade for an aggressive Dman and a 2C - and some leadership. It's time...

Posted by: sca187 | November 22, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

i can't believe they've run into another hot goalie.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

And I expect to hear that during the playoffs this year again.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say, watching here in upstate NY on MSG for the first time, Doc and Chico are scrupulously even-handed in how they call the Devils' games.

Can OV not be taught/told to backcheck? I mean, just do that - don't score, just be a defensive forward for one game . . . for one PERIOD.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | November 22, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Optional practice tomorrow?

Posted by: Fletch22 | November 22, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

i hope 30 pts is good enough for the eight seed - as we all know they never win again

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 22, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

ovie seems disinterested.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

They can't even get a 1st mortgage a goal.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Cooked. Never had any interest in the game. May be because GMGM forced Holtsby on them. He can win but not now.

Posted by: navboss | November 22, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

The Caps have the #1 OVERALL RECORD IN THE NHL. As for Ovi I believe he is pacing himself this season to see if he can peak when it really matters most in April/May & June.

5-0 ...Whatever!

Posted by: frediemac1 | November 22, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

@Fletch22

They really deserve to be bag skated!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, he must be conserving his energy. If he wastes it now, he won't have anything left later on.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Holtby had some bad moments, but the team in front of him was far, far worse.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Another shut-out against the high power/scoring Capitals.

Posted by: instinct227 | November 22, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Man, I'm so torn. To spool or not to spool (in November): THAT is the question.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | November 22, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

@i hope 30 pts is good enough for the eight seed - as we all know they never win again

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 22, 2010 9:19 PM

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LOL on that comment! (I know you're being sarcastic here!)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

@natresgroup

We're the slump busters. If you're in a slump, just play the Caps and voila, the slump is over.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

After watching the Caps play horrible I can always come to this board and see the ridiculous overreacting to make me laugh.

You guys are hilarious!
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Right, two 5-0 SOs in 3 games against two teams that won't even make the playoffs this year is a great way to show the world that this ain't the same chocking dog Caps...

Not sure who's more arrogant, the management or the kool-aiders.

Posted by: joek443 | November 22, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

While other teams certainly key on him, this is true of all great players and they find a way to get it done one way or another.

Posted by: remy117 | November 22, 2010 9:08 PM

Bingo!

No excuses. He's just sucking.

He's effectively looking like a checker/grinder who isn't checking or grinding... heh. Hands of stone, losing puck/physcial battles, rare defensive effort or smart hockey plays, etc...

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

@capsfan75,

I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't resist the smart remark.
They deserve to be bag skated for the entire practice. We'll see if it happens.

Posted by: Fletch22 | November 22, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

i'm sorry... i just don't care "what time of the year" this is happening. this is unacceptable. if you want to give the team a "pass" then you're part of the problem too.

i don't mind losing, but i can't accept not competing. i'm not saying the sky is falling but we played the same way last year, never getting up for a lousy team and look how we ended up last year. it's a mindset, a killer instinct that we are lacking. if we can't even compete in these games then that is a problem.

it should be embarrassing to the players, the captain, the coaches, the GM and the ownership. it certainly is embarrassing to me a fan since their first year in existence.

again, i don't mind losing and i'm not saying the sky is falling but f*&k man, at least compete.

Posted by: natresgroup | November 22, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Which big loss plan will BB go with? 1. I'm mad as hell and we're going to have a killer practice tomorrow. -or- 2. These things happen, we'll be fine. Everyone but Fehr and King take the day off.

After these types of games, I think this team needs another veteran in the locker room. For those closer to the situation: Is there an ongoing problem with too much partying and having a good time amongst the "C" and others? I'm not trying to make too much out of one loss, but I am not sure any lesson was learned by this team after the Montreal debacle last spring.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | November 22, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

joek443

I understand where Caps fans should be "concerned" but you do understand that this teams LEADS THE NHL IN POINTS..Right?

Posted by: frediemac1 | November 22, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Slippy, Slappy, here it is -- Samsonite, oh I was way off.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | November 22, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh, joek, not that you could ever be accused of overreacting. (Or of being arrogant, for that matter.)

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | November 22, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

@natresgroup - i agree 100%. We can lose to teams we should beat, but we should not lose 5-0. This team has too much talent to get shutout. I realize it's gonna happen but no way should it be twice within 3 games, and certainly not 5-0.

Posted by: aglatfelter | November 22, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I understand where Caps fans should be "concerned" but you do understand that this teams LEADS THE NHL IN POINTS..Right?

Posted by: frediemac1 | November 22, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Yup, they did last year too and lost in the FIRST ROUND in the playoffs. If they want to keep half-a**ing it (and it wasn't even that tonight) they are looking at another 1st round exit.

Posted by: rachel216 | November 22, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

@ frediemac1,

they won the Prez trophy last year and what good did that do???

Posted by: joek443 | November 22, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Gotta call bs, natesgroup.

If you're so tied up in this team that you actually think the kool-aiders are "part of the problem too," well, you really gotta step away from the remote control. We're all just fans, man.

Just 'cus the internet exists doesn't mean we have an impact in the short-term/on a daily basis.

Sorry, one of my pet peeves.

Totally agree with you about competing, however. Unacceptable.

I doubt anyone would disagree, however. The kool-aid isn't THAT tasty.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | November 22, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I'd consider sitting 8 for a game if I were BB.

And not as much to send 8 a message as to make us a better team.

8 has almost been a liability over the last couple of weeks.

If he isn't making good hockey plays and/or producing offensively, he surely isn't helping the team in any other way.

Yea, his presence demands attention but d-men are having an easy time containing him right now and they're realizing that quickly.

Sit 8 for a game and put somebody who's actually working hard and trying to make smart plays on the top line to get things going and send the entire team a message.

Hendricks-Backstrom-Semin
Fleischmann-Laich-Fehr
Chimera-Johansson-Bradley
King-Steckel-Gordon

Yea, 14 is having a rough go of it, as are some other players, but at least most of those other guys are working harder than 8 and are willing to make simple plays when other things aren't working.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Mike Keenan once commented about Gretzky, "he plays every shift like it's gonna be his last".

About how many players on this team can you say that??

Posted by: joek443 | November 22, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should ease up on 8 a little...

After all, he has a DVD to promote and some hot clubs to hit after the game.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 22, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@stevie_in_gp

it's ok to call BS on me. i got no problem with that. I know there is nothing "WE" can do about it as fans. But I believe it's all part of a mindset. And you said it yourself, not competing is unacceptable and that's the bottom line.

I've watched too many Capitals teams underachieve. so yeah, i guess now i take it personally. I'm not a casual fan, I literally grew up with this team. spending many a night trying to adjust the rabbit ears on the tv to get WDCA to watch the games. Hell, I've even banned myself from home playoff games because we lost every one i went too.

yes... i do have a problem, i admit it. but i wouldn't have it any other way.

Posted by: natresgroup | November 22, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Good on ya, natesgroup. I'm not far off, in truth.

As I said, just one of my pet peeves in the age of the intertubes. Just because we have opinions does not mean we can (immediately) impact things.

That being said, I'm superstitious and COMPLETELY understand banning oneself from games so as to better the chances of winning.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | November 22, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

(Man, am I ever repetitive in my rage. Internet=/impact. Got it.)

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | November 22, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao

With all the reports that Ovi had injured his wrist/hand in the game against Nashville, it may be time to send him home to see the doctor, as they did with Semin last year after he was trying to play with a wrist injury. And, yep, the last game Semin had played in before being sent home was against -- you guessed it -- New Jersey.


Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is played out. In two years he will be an average everyday player. He simply peaked too soon and has not taken care of himself.

Posted by: MKadyman | November 22, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Anyone hear BB's post game comments? They're not up on the team's website yet.

Posted by: Thisistheyear | November 22, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

It was game 22 of an 82 game regular season. If the Caps won that game 5-0 most people on here would be calling it meaningless(which it sort of would be). A couple of big losses during the regular season is not that big of a deal. Chicago just lost 7-1 not that long ago. Pittsburgh has been destroyed a few times this year. Every team gets beat bad during the regular season. It isn't that big of a deal.

As everyone said last year, the only thing that matters is getting to the playoffs and how you are playing when you get in. We can all sit here and guess for how the Caps will be playing in April, but it is just that, a guess. So we will have to wait and see.

Posted by: sgm3 | November 22, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3

November seems to usually be a bad month for the Caps. I don't know what it is.

Two years ago was the "Road Trip from Hell" where they went on the west coast for 3 games, lost 2 of them, including a lousy LA Kings team, lost Mike Green to injury in the only game they won, got killed by the San Jose Sharks, and then went to Minnesota where they not only lost but lost most of their blueliners.

And last November was when Ovi and Semin both missed time with injuries.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Losing Knuble has left a big void. 8 seems just stuck, and not sure what to do. On the PP he sits at the pt and passes to 52, instead of making himself a threat. BB should move him off the point if he isnt going to shoot. Nick has struggled also which is another reason 8 has been in a slump. Finally, im Sure the Undertaker will make a move for a defensemen or 2, or maybe even a goalie for the run.

Posted by: dpshultzfam | November 22, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

@natresgroup

Like you, I followed the Caps almost from the beginning -- since 1975 when I graduated from college. Followed them through their horrible years.

And then they were good in the 80's but could never advance far in the playoffs. (I didn't follow them as much in the late 80's and 90's since I was busy with kids' activities.)

Yes, I'm wanting the Cup more and feeling more urgent about it -- since I'm not getting any younger.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 22, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

OMG ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Posted by: chrisclarksucks | November 22, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovy might be getting tired of playing for a GM that seems incapable of putting together a Cup caliber defense.

Posted by: alanb1 | November 22, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

mass hysteria...

Posted by: ebolean1 | November 22, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

BB is letting them play pond hockey. they'll learn that even the worst nhl team can beat them if they don't play as a team and put in a 60 minutes effort. it might get a little worse before it gets better. if they're playing like this in late march/early april - then i'll be worried.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 22, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

OMG ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Posted by: chrisclarksucks | November 22, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

mass hysteria...

Posted by: ebolean1 | November 22, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I am sick of people like you, koolaidrinkers! We gotta act now, 3 years in a row we are having same problem. It is not the end of the world, but todays game was the great example how much BB system fails! Fire BB now, before it is too late!

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | November 22, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

As everyone said last year, the only thing that matters is getting to the playoffs and how you are playing when you get in. We can all sit here and guess for how the Caps will be playing in April, but it is just that, a guess. So we will have to wait and see.
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I'll be the first to admit that this is just a 82-game preseason as far as I'm concerned but show me an instance where the eventual Cup winner got shut out 5-0 or worse TWICE to a non-playoff team in less than a week in the last 10 years.

Posted by: joek443 | November 22, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

if that actually happened, they probably went on to win the Cup with a different coach...

Posted by: joek443 | November 22, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Non-playoff the year of, or the year prior, joek? This is gonna be an awful specific search for hockeystats.com . . .

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | November 22, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

@ stevie

how about both? heck, how about getting shut out that badly twice in a week by ANY teams??

Posted by: joek443 | November 22, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

As an deserter, I can only laugh at the Caps now, and I'm lovin' it. Look on the dark side, so long as Boudreau keeps on winning, you'll keep on having him. Your fellow fans don't know hockey and will keep on filling the seats at Verizon like drunk dogs.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool | November 22, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

You guys are truly ridiculous.

1. We are tied for first in the East with 30 points!!! Sure, this has been a horrid week, but it happens. Look at the Blues they've been struggling after a hot start. Pens started slow. Look at Chicago they're playing mediocre. Over-Reacting taken to the max!

2. Ovie has not played well lately, but people are starting to worry about him declining and the contract was bad? I mean come on. Ovie will turn things around.

3. Before we start babbling about trading Holtby already, lets stop and think about how we have been playing defense. The turnovers have been awful leaving our goalies in a tough spot. Were fine with Neuvs and Varly.

4. Lets hold up on the fire BB comments. Ill give him this year to see what he can do in the playoffs. After all, he has the best record in the league the last 3 years.

Everyone needs to relax. If this continues on for another few weeks then yeah we should worry. But it is way to premature to start calling for peoples heads. The caps will be fine!

Posted by: digster1013 | November 23, 2010 3:02 AM | Report abuse

chicago lost like a lot of their players from that stanley cup team......... that's different

Posted by: rachel216 | November 23, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

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