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Sloan Demoted Today

Defenseman Tyler Sloan has been returned to Hershey, so that must mean Tom Poti is ready to go for tomorrow's game against the Sabres.

Sloan skated in his first four NHL games this month and also got his first goal in Dallas. The 27-year-old averaged 10:38 in ice time per game and had a plus/minus rating of even, but his first NHL recall will be remembered most for his devastating shoulder check on Daymond Langkow in Calgary.

Sloan will miss the Bears' game in Albany tonight and will meet the team in Hershey for their game against the Phantoms tomorrow.

Viktor Kozlov and Sergei Fedorov, after a couple of days off, are on the ice, assigned to lines and appear ready to go.

More later.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  October 31, 2008; 10:29 AM ET
 
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yay TP is available to clean up the mess...

Posted by: rh71 | October 31, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Sure, steal my TP joke, why not..

Glad he's ready to go, if such is indeed the case.

Posted by: _jordan | October 31, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I really hope he is 110%. It is way too early to have him re-injure himself.

Posted by: SA-Town | October 31, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

bummer. While I don't wish injury on anyone, I hope we see Sloan some more in the future.

Posted by: RedBirdie | October 31, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I don't wish that anyone gets hurt, but I hope we see more of Sloan this season.

Posted by: RedBirdie | October 31, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Sloan, wasn't great but he wasn't terrible. A decent temporary fix. And, as an added bonus, he has a shining NHL puck that he can put in a glass case and hang on the wall so that, even if he never gets another chance, he can tell his grandkids about the goal he scored in the NHL.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | October 31, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

@rh71 - DUDE. What MESS?!

Sloan did a great job in his first 4 NHL games. Let's do some quick math here.

* 1 goal, 0 assists.
* 2 minutes in the box.
* 1 MAJOR hit that resulted in a 9-minute power play for the Caps.

Poti, has also played 4 games this season. So far, he has:

* 0 goals, 2 assists.
* 4 minutes in the box.

I'm not gonna say Sloan's that far behind the curve, especially for a defenseman.

If you basically double what both he and Poti have done, you get:

SLOAN: 2 goals, 0 assists, 4 minutes in the box.
POTI: 0 goals, 4 assists, 8 minutes in the box.

Put that up against the rest of the defensemen, and you get:

Erskine's played in 7 games:

* 0 goals, 1 assist.
* 11 minutes in the box.

Green's just on fire this season. In his 9 games:

* 4 goals, 4 assists.
* 10 minutes in the box.

Jurcina's also played 9 games:

* 1 goal, 0 assists.
* 6 minutes in the box.

Morrisonn's played 9 games:

* 0 goals, 1 assist.
* 16 minutes in the box.

Schultz has played 9 games:

* 0 goals, 3 assists.
* 4 minutes in the box.

I'd say Sloan was RIGHT on par with the rest of our defensemen, looking at the math. And so is Poti. :-)

Posted by: irockthered | October 31, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'm awake this morning... the TP joke was BAD!

Posted by: irockthered | October 31, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Mine was a lot better yesterday.

When it was original.

Posted by: _jordan | October 31, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see more of Sloan myself. The numbers do certainly seem to suggest that Sloan acquitted himself reasonably well when compared to the D as a whole. Yeah, there was that one oops in Phoenix, but like none of our other D's ever make an oops like that - hell, didn't Fedorov turn one over in the Nashville game that was pretty bad? It's unreasonable to expect that oopses will never happen, and you gotta remember that this is a raw rookie in his first games posting comparable stats to our top-line D-men. No, he didn't do badly for himself at all.

And how many NHL rookies make the highlight reels and a YouTube clip in their first NHL game?

Posted by: kittypawz | October 31, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that when asked about NHL players thhat had impressed him, OV brought up QL. Does anyone one else feel that QL is missed on this team this year, not for his skill but for his heart? I am not sure this team has the work ethic that we had last year, not sure we have the desire to win every game. I know you can't win every game, but you should WANT to win every game before it becomes win or else like last year. We need a character player, a player like QL who everyone looks at and says if he can play that hard so can I.

Posted by: majiksea | October 31, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

irockthered,

A player is not only judged by his goals, assists, and PIM. Although I agree Sloan was a decent player, he did make more ill-advised passes, turnovers in the zone, etc. then alot of the guys you mentioned.

Posted by: graig82 | October 31, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

majiksea,

I'm thinking that QL isn't going to get any ice time with the Caps this year. Yes, he has heart galore, but that's the extent of his skill set. With the depth that this team has in the pipeline with kids that have talent, I just don't see QL getting another shot. Just an opinion.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 31, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Boo,

It seemed like a bunch of people agreed with me on Brash being worth the money. Now the next question is how about Erskine?

There's been speculation that Brash isn't going to be resigned and that he's going to be moved to forward and be the new version of Brash after this season. Can you think of any other explanation? With other d-men needing new contracts, that kind of money makes no sense unless his role is going to change.

If Fedorov isn't resigned, Erskine could also double as an emergency d-man if someone got injured.

The down side is his glass jaw.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: Steve_R | October 31, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I too doubt QL will be back, but I think the team lacks something he provided, something not provided by skill alone. I am not sure you can replace heart and desire with skill.

Posted by: majiksea | October 31, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I still don't understand why Erskine was signed for so much money. I'm not a hater, but I don't think other teams were going to be lining up with 1.25 million per season contracts in Jukly

Posted by: SombreroGuy | October 31, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

is the thinking that Brash is going to retire after this season?

Posted by: RedBirdie | October 31, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The fact that OV singled out QL as a player he admired says a lot to me.

Posted by: majiksea | October 31, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

irockthered,

A player is not only judged by his goals, assists, and PIM. Although I agree Sloan was a decent player, he did make more ill-advised passes, turnovers in the zone, etc. then alot of the guys you mentioned.

Posted by: graig82 | October 31, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

majiksea,

OK, for the sake of argument, if heart is lacking and you think the team needs heart, who do you waive/trade to free up the space needed on the roster?

Fehr, Flash, Stecks and Gordon all have upside. One of them would be odd man out, most likely Fehr or Gordon (though Stecks is ufa after this season I think). Fehr has the potential to be a pretty good goal scorer, Gordon is a good defensive forward and no slouch on faceoffs.

Who's spot do you give to QL considering QL's heart but lack of upside?

Posted by: Steve_R | October 31, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Saw this in the print edition of the Harrisburg Patriot this morning. Now John Walton has it in his blog....Boudreau autobiography is in the works.

http://johnwaltonhockey.blogspot.com/

Posted by: tess2201 | October 31, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

You don't waive anyone on the roster now. To call up QL to replace someone on the roster is stupid. He is one dimensional, a defensive forward who blocks shots.

Posted by: graig82 | October 31, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

It's a hypothetical graig82.

You vote no change, me too. That's 2 for QL staying in the AHL.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 31, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

after this season Fehr is boom outta here and I think it depends how well the caps do this season whether the donald retires or not. The sexy lumberjack signing was my favorite day in recent memory, but I would have liked to sign him for a million. Good for big John getting paid though

Posted by: _stevo | October 31, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

rh17,
How long have you been waiting to use that one? LOL

Posted by: lloydrj727 | October 31, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

stevo,

But why pay a number 6-7 d-man that kind of money when we have kids in the pipeline who are:
a)better
b)cheaper (than his new salary)

Posted by: Steve_R | October 31, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I honestly see Sloan as one of our future top 6. He's not ready for the full time though, yet.

Future top six of
Green - Schultz
Alzner - Poti, if he is still here
Lepisto - Sloan

Doesn't strike me as sad. And, yes, I don't mind not having Morrisonn or Jurcina gone. At all. For what it's worth, I think Erskine jumps into Brashear's role for a year or two, and is also a 7th D-man, allowing us to have more forward and D scratches, and more options is always good for a coach.

Posted by: Whitermage | October 31, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Thanks graig82, that was very reasoned and well spoken, guess OV was wrong about the guy.

A hockey team is like a puzzle, it is either more than or less than the sum of its parts. Right now the Caps seem to be less than the sum of their parts. I don't think for instance that the return of Clark has been as dynamic as I thought it would be. His impact has been minimal. I guess we would move one of the guys you talked about, but better yet, I would make him the next call up and see what difference he makes in the team. That given I am a huge CB fan and would love to see him up.

Posted by: majiksea | October 31, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Boudreau said we'll see Laing probably if a PK guy goes down. I think that's probably the best way to use him.

Erskine sucks. He should have to pay to be in the league, rather than the other way round.

Posted by: _jordan | October 31, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Whitermage,

Carlson

Jordan,

Now that made me laugh. Short and to the point, well done.

Posted by: Steve_R | October 31, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Carlson and Alzner yes should be up next year. But Lepesto isn't good and would only be up because he is cheaper. If you think Erskine sucks, than you clearly weren't at the games last year and watched sami play. Mo is gone so insert Alzner with Green could end up to be one of the best defensive pairings in the league. Carlson with Schultz. Poti with Erskine.

Posted by: _stevo | October 31, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

we dont need ql he just brings heart and defense

The Caps are full of hard working guys who go at 110% all the time and will do anything to win our record proves it

Leave him in Hershey. We dont need what he brings to the table Lets sign more Euro snipers

Posted by: wendel2 | October 31, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

@graig82 - of course they are judged by more than just the stats. But the stats are what is recorded in an obvious place.

On the +/- scale, Sloan is behind the curve. But so is Poti, probably in both cases because they've only played in half the games the Caps have played this season. And both Jurcina and Schultz are in the negatives on that stat, so neither Sloan nor Poti are on the bottom of the heap there.

Erskine: +3 (amazing)
Green: +4 (he's on fire anyway!)
Jurcina: -1
Morrisonn: 1
Poti: 0
Schultz: -1
Sloan: 0

Hits have not been tracked as an official stat since 2002, so I'm not going to be able to find statistics on that unless it's mentioned in the recaps. But I did see that when Sloan hits someone, the person he hits sure knows it!

I also have not found stats on turnovers, though that ought to be tracked somewhere...

I did find stats on shots on goal, and yeah, Sloan is behind the curve there, even taking into account that he's only played half the number of games the rest of the guys have played.

Erskine: 6
Green: 36 - WOW!
Jurcina: 10
Morrisonn: 4
Poti: 4
Schultz: 6
Sloan: 2

My point, though, is not to judge Sloan too harshly this early in the season. I am confident that if/when he comes back up, he will continue to shape up into an NHL-worthy player.

Posted by: irockthered | October 31, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

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