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Battle of the Bizarre Fights

Alexander Semin engaged in his first career fight tonight with Rangers defenseman Marc Staal, who had two small scratches under his right eye after the encounter. And for those of you who weren't watching the game, check out the first video. Descriptions of Semin's punches toward the end of the fight ranged from him playing the bongos to him looking like Energizer Bunny beating a drum....


But he wasn't the only player you don't usually see fighting to drop the gloves today. During the Penguins' 6-1 loss to Florida this afternoon, Sidney Crosby fought Panthers center Brett McLean, which you can also view for comparison.

So we can't help but ask...

By Katie Carrera  |  January 3, 2009; 11:16 PM ET
 
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Just you wait! Semin is going to train with Brash. "I will get you Staal"

Posted by: RedRocker | January 3, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

way to cheapshot a guy there Sid. no class at all.

..not that bongoing a turtled up Staal is classy, but Semin isn't the proclaimed "face" of the NHL either.

Posted by: nuftjedi | January 3, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Panthers D Nick Boynton on the fight:

"That was just embarrassing. I can understand a little bit what he was trying to do, but that's a not a very professional move. You ask a guy to fight. You don't jump a guy when his head is down taking a faceoff. That's pretty immature and childish. He's just, whatever. He's not happy with the way things are going and he was trying to get his team going. But there's no need for that."

Posted by: Section117 | January 3, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Agree with previous comments...nice Cindy...take a guy with his head down...classy.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | January 3, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

My boy, Sasha Semin "Fighting" has to be the funniest thing I've seen in quite a while. I'm STILL laughing. But, AGAIN he stood up for himself. THAT'S the key, as far as I'm concerned. He behaved like a man, and refused to be intimidated. Kudos Sasha! As far as fighting style points go... Well, that's another matter. HAHAHAHAHA
Also, is Eric Fehr coming along nicely, or what? These last five or six games he's improved dramatically. And, not a minute too soon. I predicted stardom for the kid four ( 4 ) years ago. One thing I've been pleasantly surprised by is his skating ability. It's better than I thought. I'm not the least bit concerned about his lack of goal scoring. That'll come. He's a goal scorer. Always has been. I'm now more convinved than ever that he's capable of scoring forty ( 40 ) per year. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!

Posted by: Puckguru | January 3, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Glad that class act is representing the East. Voting was a total joke! I guess all those out of work Pitts. fans needed something to do.

Posted by: RedRocker | January 3, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I watched Crosby's fight live. Before realizing that he sucker-punched the guy, I thought it was a potentially good move to help change momentum. But punching the guy when he's not expecting it (after you've pulled his jersey over his head because he's not expecting it) is just embarrassing. Moreover, you take yourself out of the game for 19 minutes of the remaining 23 minutes. Yeah, way to jump-start the team... take the best player out of the game for the remainder...

Caps looked good tonight. I'm really impressed with how they keep winning in completely different ways... from behind, from ahead, high scoring, low scoring, with their stars, with the 3rd/4th line, etc. It's just fantastic hockey. Go Caps!

(And for the record, Semin looked pretty silly in the fight, but he just needs a lesson on how to throw a punch... at least he didn't cheapshot somebody. And frankly, I love his intensity. He's ridiculously fun to watch.)

Posted by: TripDonkeys | January 3, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Semin monkey-fisting Staal was the funniest thing I've ever seen in a hockey game! I was embarassed for him. He's gonna have to start scoring so that people forget about it, though it will be tough. And he scratched him too? I'm still laughing.

Posted by: oo7 | January 3, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Well ....LOL Its being reported here in Canada that the Semin fight is the most embarrasing fight ever in the history of the NHL...LOL way to go Semin OMG i cant stop laughing ...and to top it off hes wearing a pink shirt! Word of advice to Semin ..."Stay on the IR"

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | January 3, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

"Semin monkey-fisting Staal" is one of the funniest things I've ever written.
it sounds like something in the basement of a sex shop. semen monkey fisting stall. yuck.

Posted by: oo7 | January 3, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine what will placed in Sasha's locker stall? Some drumsticks or maybe some bongos along with a card good for one free punching lesson from Brash! That was hilarious!!!! My 2 year old hits harder than that!!! LOL Let's here though for him. He didn't turtle, he fought back and got the better of Staal. As for the game and the team you have to give it up for BB. We are winning all different types of games. High Scoring, Low Scoring, doesn't matter we are getting it done. JT60 was solid when he had to be, Eric Fehr played a great game. It will be interesting to see who gets scratched when Flash is healthly! What about when Federov gets back. I can't find 1 guy who deserves to sit, let alone 2. Great position to be in though! Way to go Caps!!

Posted by: psugolf | January 3, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I was at the game and kept laughing. Came home and watched it on my DVR and cant stop watching it. OMG

Posted by: RedRocker | January 3, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA...that Semin fight was classic. Looks like Brash needs to take him under his wing and teach him to throw a few punches. That open-handed slapping thing was just too funny. But hey, it's his first career fight, and as others have said, he at least stood up for himself. Glad he sorta came out on top.

Anyone else find the Rangers fans to be particularly irritating tonight? They seem to be worse than usual. No respect during the National Anthem, and at one point I saw a glass bottle fly out of section 428 (or possibly 427), and down onto the section below. Not only was that rude, but it was also extremely dangerous for anyone seated in the section below. I hope nobody was hurt. That section was full of Rangers jerseys and was causing problems all night. Was very happy to see security finally step in and remove some of the worst offenders there, but even as they were doing it, other idiots felt the need to start screaming obscenities at the security folks. Also witnessed a near fight in the section next to me where another Rangers fan decided to bother a Caps fan who outweighed him by a ratio of at least 3:1...not smart, and the Caps fan shoved him against a wall before our usher stepped in and took the Ranger's fan aside. The idiot then decided to lay hands on the usher and grabbed the usher's Rock the Red pin and twist it. Didn't hear the exchange of words that happened at that point, but the usher did a fantastic job at diffusing the situation. I hate Philthy fans, but they are almost angels compared to tonight's blue jersey crowd, and that's no small task.

Posted by: capsfan4 | January 3, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Now if the question had of been, which fight was dirtier...
I'm still chuckling about that. What an odd night in hockeyland.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 3, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Question:

Who goes down when Fleishman comes back?

If anyone worthy of joining us for the stretch is available - it might be time for GMGM to step in with a pretty substantial trade.

Before I get yelled at - I know we are winning and running on all cylinders right now. We don't really need to shake anything up. However - do you truly think we can win the cup this year? We're good - but I think we're still a player or two away from competing with Detroit, the Sharks, or the really the top 4 in the Western Conference.

Did I hear that Pit might be shopping Stall? Not that I don't love Steckel - but I think Stall could be a pretty nice upgrade as a 2nd/3rd line center.

Posted by: patrone | January 3, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

The fight was so embarassing. I have lost a little respect for semin. I mean he is a hockey player...maybe he shouldn't have fought but CLOSE YOUR DAMN FISTS and punch like a man....

STOP Slapping like someone stole your lego's!!!

Posted by: DCSPORTS | January 3, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Anyone hear the promo for the Pens-Rangers game during the Colts-Chargers game tonight? "Watch the greatest star in the league Sid the Kid take on.." This stuff is really starting to get to me. I know its just an ad, but you can't blatantly call Crosby the "greatest star in the league."

Posted by: dcsportsfan13 | January 3, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't think his shirt is pink, I think its sorta sheer. Although typing that now, pink might be better.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 3, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

I was at the game as well - laughing about the fight afterwards and the way home. BTW, his shirt isn't pink. I'm sure Brash will give him a few lessons in the near future! :D

As for Cindy, he's bush league to grab McLean when his head is down. I agree with Boynton's comments. If you remember, it wasn't long ago (a few weeks) that Cindy was punching the Blues player (?) in the groin from behind as another Penguin was holding the same Blue around the shoulders. (This incident was posted on this blog then. Whoever has the link, please post it again).

It's a matter of time before someone gives him his come-upings!

Posted by: puckman | January 3, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CodePoetry | January 3, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Next Time Semin descides to drop the gloves would one of his team mates please hand him a pillow so he doesnt hurt his hands...that wasn't Semin first fight ....his first fight (lose mind you) came at the hand of his little sister she showed him all those moves!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | January 4, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

puckman, fyi:

the game you're referring to was Pens vs. Thrashers. I was there. Cindy punched Boris Valabik in the groin from behind as he was being held by another Penguin. Classy. Valabik laughed it off saying that if that's the way he fights he feels kind of sorry for him.

Posted by: CAP-lanta | January 4, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Was at the game, guess I'll take the lazer pass to Mike Green for a goal over that fight LOL poor guy will be a long time living that one down.

Posted by: billd2 | January 4, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

StanleyCup.

FYI. It's not a "pink" shirt before the game. It's a white shirt + sweat + red jersey = pink shirt.

DCSPORTS, Looked pretty closed fisted to me. My favorite part of the fight was him going for Staal's face to get him to let go of his body. Either way, you hit what you are given, how you are given. With semin's talents and glass-bones, probably a better idea to pound away as he did, rather than punch the ice full-force with your knuckles. (notice also he missed one near the end of the drumroll and hit the ice.)

Classic. Absolute classic.

Posted by: FFSEnough | January 4, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Thanks CAP-lanta fr the correction.

Here's the link to the Crosby - Valabik incident. At least Cindy dropped the gloves tonight. Also, the league never disciplined him. Why??????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wqR17KrLKw

Posted by: puckman | January 4, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

BWAHAHAHAHA! OK, Semin, at least, stood up like a - well, I won't say man, because that was funny as shtick! - but he stood up for himself. And that's what counts.

I thought they'd maybe stripped him down to his skin from where I was sitting, but in the video, I can see it's a white body shirt with black arms. Probably got washed with a home jersey, and went pinkish, LOL!

It really was a silly fight, but Semin, at least, didn't cheapshot anyone. In fact, he got pushed in the face prior to the fight, and it looked like he'd just plain had enough of being pushed around.

As for the Crosby fight - what else do you expect from someone who'd whale on someone in the 'nads from behind? Glad to see the Cats handed the Penguins their behinds tonight. 6-1 victory for the Panthers? WooT! Take THAT, Crysby!

@capsfan4 - The Rangers fans were beyond the pale in rudeness tonight. I couldn't believe how rude they were during the National Anthem, for starters - I mean, I don't like the "RED!" or the "O!" bit either, but this was beyond that by a long shot. Jackdaws. And then the bottle-throwing incident, and the chants of "A$$-HOLE," and ... something unintelligible about Dale Hunter??!

I don't mind them cheering their team on, but this went too far.

As for the near fight, that was right underneath me. The rather large Caps fan gave the Rangers fan a hard shove, and I was a bit worried, because he ended up under the bleachers... I'm sorry to say that the shove comes under the heading of "assault," even if it was aggravated, and said Caps fan is lucky he's not in a whole heck of a lot of trouble over that incident.

About 3/4 of the Rangers fans in section 428 got ejected from the game, over bottle-throwing and verbal fighting with the security folks. It was an extremely ugly situation, and if anyone *was* hurt by that bottle, I hope the security people got the name of the thrower so that they can file charges. The whole situation got way out of hand. Very, very uncool.

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

BWAHAHAHAHA! OK, Semin, at least, stood up like a - well, I won't say man, because that was funny as shtick! - but he stood up for himself. And that's what counts.

I thought they'd maybe stripped him down to his skin from where I was sitting, but in the video, I can see it's a white body shirt with black arms. Probably got washed with a home jersey, and went pinkish, LOL!

It really was a silly fight, but Semin, at least, didn't cheapshot anyone. In fact, he got pushed in the face prior to the fight, and it looked like he'd just plain had enough of being pushed around.

As for the Crosby fight - what else do you expect from someone who'd whale on someone in the 'nads from behind? Glad to see the Cats handed the Penguins their behinds tonight. 6-1 victory for the Panthers? WooT! Take THAT, Crysby!

@capsfan4 - The Rangers fans were beyond the pale in rudeness tonight. I couldn't believe how rude they were during the National Anthem, for starters - I mean, I don't like the "RED!" or the "O!" bit either, but this was beyond that by a long shot. Jackdaws. And then the bottle-throwing incident, and the chants of "A$$-HOLE," and ... something unintelligible about Dale Hunter??!

I don't mind them cheering their team on, but this went too far.

As for the near fight, that was right underneath me. The rather large Caps fan gave the Rangers fan a hard shove, and I was a bit worried, because he ended up under the bleachers... I'm sorry to say that the shove comes under the heading of "assault," even if it was aggravated, and said Caps fan is lucky he's not in a whole heck of a lot of trouble over that incident.

About 3/4 of the Rangers fans in section 428 got ejected from the game, over bottle-throwing and verbal fighting with the security folks. It was an extremely ugly situation, and if anyone *was* hurt by that bottle, I hope the security people got the name of the thrower so that they can file charges. The whole situation got way out of hand. Very, very uncool.

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Personally, after the fight with Semin, Stall was cross checking OV and never had to pay for going after either star. Why do we have Brash on the team? The truth is, everyone on this blog will score almost as many goals as Brash! He needs to get out there and beat the crap out of Stall or just stay on IR and help the team out by staying off the ice. If they just want someone who skates real slow and can't pass for crap, I'll do it cheaper!

Posted by: majiksea | January 4, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Those who are laughing at Semins punches are obvious not aware of Fedor Emalianenko, he has used the same technique to beat the living cr@P of many macho men. Things you missed:
1. a great straight jab.
2. escape from a sweater over your head technique.
3. a flip and put down of a bigger and heavier man without much effort
4. 8 punches (not slaps as many of you think) in less than 1.5 seconds.
I suggest, if you ever meet one of those Rusians, don't take them too lightly.

Posted by: opita | January 4, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Okay, I roll my eyes just as much as everyone else when the NHL and pundits go on about him being the face of the league, and I also agree that it was a cheap move to sucker-punch.

However, I think the guy had to make a statement has he's been getting bashed-up constantly without any heavy-weight to step in like Brash for us with Ovi.

He still whines like a baby to the refs...but I think that's the only reason he can be called Cindy now--the dude can fight (fair or unfair). He was rag-dolling the guy like Chara does.

Pete.

Posted by: TonyX | January 4, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Dammit, my browser is being stupid again.


Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Crosby's fight was a freaking cheap shot, what a class act. Semin's was absolutely hilarious, i've always thought he's had a bit of a temper.

Posted by: GoUnited | January 4, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

@ irockthered - You must sit pretty close to me, and I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw the bottle or the shoving incident. Did you happen to catch the pin twist by that Rangers fan on the usher from the 429/430 portal? The bottle throwing bothered me the most - a glass bottle at that height (it caught some major air before plummeting down) could be extremely dangerous if it hit someone on the head. As for the Dale Hunter thing, it took me a while before I finally understood it...it was "Dale Hunter Beats His Wife." How pathetic.

As for the possible assault, I really only saw the second half of the shoving match after I heard the commotion. Didn't see exactly what transpired immediately before hand, but by the time I looked over, the kid was already shoved against the wall and the usher was stepping in. That same Rangers fan had already been a pest in our section earlier during the National Anthem before being informed that he was sitting in the wrong seat and was moved over to 431. Don't quite know what he was doing back at the 429/430 portal towards the end of the game, nor do I know what he was trying to do with that Caps fan, but I'm glad he finally got pulled out by the usher. I hope security was being summoned, but they had their hands full at that point.

Posted by: capsfan4 | January 4, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Semin will crush Riley Cote on Tuesday.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 4, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't believe my eyes that Semin got into a fight, but what else could he do? Ovi tried to fuss at the Rags for going after Semin, but shortly thereafter, Staal challenged Semin, and he did what he had to do. The pink shirt? Ha, ha -- clearly a bachelor thing - shirt washed with something red in the wash - um, it is the Washington Capitals and with the rockin' the red thing - think that might happen? Just like Ovi wanting his pelmeny (sort of like Russian torellini) that is known as Russian bachelor food! These guys are kids, so pink shirts, just like the fight from a young guy who doesn't fight, should be expected. Bongo Gongo Semin!

Posted by: plinkwired | January 4, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

wow, that game featured a semin fight and a nylander roughing. unreal.

Posted by: brooklyncapsfan | January 4, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

As far as trouble with Rangers fans..remember the guys working security are from DC too...Just be honest and dont cause trouble, and they will help you out.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 4, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Not to be a buzzkill but every non-Russian speaking player in the NHL is asking his Russian speaking teammate how to say "go play your drums you #$!%" in Russian right now. Why? Next time they skate against one of the leading points leaders in the league, they'll do anything legally they can to throw off his game. Hope Sasha laughs it off or ignores it. If not, Brads is going to get promoted to whatever line Semin is on because Brash is not going to be able to come off the bench everytime Semin gets x-checked in the back. Again, not to be a buzzkill but I don't see the slaps as being that funny.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 4, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

I think Semin just lost it - he was sick and tired of being run and pushed around, and if Brash wasn't there to stand up for him (hard to be) then he's by God going to do it himself. And he didn't do a half-bad job, even if he did look silly doing it. He got the better of Staal on that one, IMO.

Silly or not, I'm glad to see him standing up for himself.

The Rangers fans were in 428, and I'm in 429, so we got a pretty good view of what went on. These guys started shouting during the anthem, threw beer on other fans and the usher, used the "Dale Hunter beats his wife" crap, and so forth. Real gems of people, let me tell you. And then they had the nerve to stand there and argue with security-backed ushers during play when asked to leave. Classy stuff, and none of us were sorry to see him go.

And yes, the one dude who picked on a guy three times his size was right below me. Nasty stuff, there. I take back anything I said about Rangers fans being loud but usually civilized. These guys were anything but.

Crosby? Cheap shots? Never. *shocked look* </sarcasm>

Also, re: Brash - he tried, the zebras seemed to be watching him and broke it up every time he tried to go.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 1:00 AM | Report abuse

@capsfan4 - I'm in 429, Row F. I didn't see the pin-twist, though.

@majiksea - It's Staal, not Stall... I type it that way half the time myself. Did not see the cross-check, but the officiating was - as usual - pretty uneven tonight... I can't say I've been impressed by a refereeing job yet.

Re: Brashear - there are only a handful of guys in the NHL who are gutsy enough (or stupid enough!) to drop the gloves with our enforcer. Riley Cote is one of them, as witness the TWO fights he and Brash got into in Philly.

@ TonyX - The point with Crosby is that all he does is cheapshots. Hitting a guy who's already pinned from behind. Pulling a shirt up over a guy's head. He fights like a six-year-old. For the "face of the NHL," Crosby is a punk.

@ opita - I didn't see all the replay on the Semin fight, but it sure looked from where I was sitting like he knocked the stuffin's out of Staal. And as someone else pointed out, yeah, with as valuable as his hands are, I'd use an open palm too, in a fight.

Did anybody see exactly what happened to set him off? It looked like he went all berzerker on Staal... the only thing I saw was Staal's hand in his face.

And WHAT is up with that stupid rule about the jersey tie-down??! A game misconduct because Semin didn't tuck his shirt in right??! That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!

Re: Clark's fight - Glad to see he's stepping up as the captain now that he's back, even though he did get his butt handed to him. :-)


Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

^ Oops - should've read pelmeny=tortellini -sorry for that.

Posted by: plinkwired | January 4, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

007, that's sick, that's twisted, that's hilarious! Thanks.

On my tv, Semin's shirt looked to be a very sweaty white. The pink was probably from his skin underneath. Regardless, he does need to spend some time with Brashear working on his fighting skills. Meanwhile, when he's not attending "The Donald Brashear School of Boxing," perhaps he might add one of these to his workout regimen:

http://www.superdairyboy.com/3-D_Bob_Bags.html

Who on the Flyers will be first to start something with Semin on Tuesday night? After tonight, he's going to be a marked man.

Girlie Boy Crosby was probably trying to prove his manhood, that he's more than just ringlets and a cherubic face. Dirty fighting, always the mark of a class act, but, hey, he received a million plus votes to be in the All Star game. (What IS it with that, anyway? MLB is the same way.)

What's next for the NHL channel, or maybe on Versus, hockey smack down? Something for the off season, perhaps? Just don't let it interfere with my Os.

Did Semin get the hard hat tonight?

Posted by: BeemanRS | January 4, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

I said it at the game and I'll say it again here. Do you take a Porsche Boxster off-roading? Nope. Semin is not designed to fight, he's a Sniper. I didn't see what led to the fight, but it looked like whatever happened set him into a rage. Kudos to him for standing up for himself. I will say, though, I hope he can control his temper so this doesn't happen again. We need him on the ice scoring goals, and not back on IR for injured hands.

Posted by: BlondeCapsFan | January 4, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, something needs to be done about Sid the Kid. He is the so called "best player in the NHL"...which is completely untrue. He isn't even the best player on his team. He seems to be a great role model for the kids: first to have that incident where he repeatedly punched a Boris Valabik of the Thrashers in the nuts
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/With-Crosby-disregard-NHL-obviously-endorses-ge?urn=nhl,130785
Then with tonight's shenanigans. Cindy Crosby needs to be injured. Badly. I actually think the only player in the NHL that Crosby could take in a fight is Steve Stamkos. It would be in typical Crosby fashion to fight an 18 year old anyway...

Posted by: MFab12 | January 4, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

@ BeemanRS - My suspicion is that the Pens fans found some way to beat the system, just like the Habs fans did earlier. Once they found out you could vote 1,000 times a day on your cellphone, they probably set up a script or something. The Habs fans were cheating at first - they even published the script they used - but we chose to be above the board, so our guy isn't on the starting lineup, and for the 15 seconds they'll be on the ice out there, I'm not worried about it.

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

@ BlondeCapsFan - That was what I thought, too. Whatever it was that happened, Semin just went berzerk and unloaded on Staal... I wouldn't blame him at all for saying, "ENOUGH!" with people taking cheapshots at him... that's what got him onto IR in the first place... OK, the second place, but still.

@oo7 - That monkey-fisting comment is amusing as hell... at least Semin does his monkey-fisting.... nevermind!!! BAD IMAGE! BAD IROCKTHERED! BAD!!! I just juxtaposed the Valabik hit and monkey-fisting........! AUGH!!!

Anybody got any brain-floss?

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Agreed that Semin is going to be a marked man after this, at least for a little while until he tears a few guys up. BB might need to make sure that when Semin is on the ice, he's got someone there who can defend him if someone starts trouble.

I hope it doesn't cause serious problems.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Finally finished watching the Caps game. Had to DVR it as I just couldn't pass up the chance to watch Russia vs. Canada live.

Thanks to the Caps I feel a little bit better. After the way Russia lost I pretty much just wanted to cry.

Semin fighting was the funniest thing I've seen in hockey in a very long time. He's never gonna hear the end of this.

Crosby's been showing his class recently left and right. First jumping Valabik when he was held down and giving him a few to the ball sack and now this.

OK. Now I'm gonna repost my comments regarding the amazing Russia - Canada game from HFBoards.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Russia vs. Canada

This was one of the most exciting games I have ever seen in my entire life. I was close to having a massive heart failure. I have finally calmed down after what was a crushing defeat for the team I supported. What a way to lose for Russia! We were just 5 seconds away from winning it. I knew something bad was gonna happen when we couldn't get the puck out of the zone with 12 sec left after 3 tries. Also, that icing... Urgghhh... The kid could have easily skated over the red line before taking the shot, but panicked.

The officiating in the 2nd period was brutal, but we're used to most calls going Canadian way when the tournament is held there.

Grachev, who was disappointing prior to the last game vs. the Czechs (mishandling the puck a lot and missing some empty nets) was a beast today and deserved being named player of the game for Russia.

Goncharov looks very close to being NHL ready. Voinov had a bit of a tough game with a number of bad giveaways after holding onto the puck too long.

I have to give props to Eberle. To pull a deke like that in the dying moments of an elimination game with the crowd going crazy... That's nerves of steel! Most guys would have just shot there and it would have probably been saved, but he made a great move.

PK Subban got a lot of crap from the Canadian announcers and fans on here, but as a Russian I love the way he plays. He's creative, skillful and fast. Yeah, he made some mistakes, but he also made some amazing plays.

Reply to ... Tavares never got hit with the stick in the face on that face-off. Watch that play again. His helmet collided with the Russian player's helmet and he snapped his head back and fell backwards in dramatic fashion. It was a 100% dive, something good ol' Canadian boys supposedly don't do. PK Subban also took a pathetic dive after getting shoved away from the Russian goalie once. Fortunately, in that case, the refs didn't bite. I can see that they're now showing Serie A (the Italian soccer league) in Canada and your boys have learned a few tricks.

Anyway, congrats to Canada, but as a Russian fan that really stung. Great game anyway. This is why I love WJC and international hockey in general.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 1:34 AM | Report abuse

One more thing I forgot. Can we trade Della Rovere? The kid's just the next Steve Downie. Marginally skilled goon who takes idiotic penalties all the time and tries to hurt people. Capitals broadcasters sang him praises during the Caps game today. Figures that a Canadian (our analyst) likes a player like this.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 1:37 AM | Report abuse

For those of you who aren't MMA fans those are called hammer fists. Semin wins by ground-n-pound!

The goal against JT tonight was offsides. Locker called it.

Is it time to start talking about OV as not only the best current player in the NHL but the best #8 in Washington sports history? OK... I am a HUGE Nats fan but even the most ardent of us will admit to the obvious that the O's were DC's team before Angelos lost his mind.

I was an O's fan. I will always be Cal fan. He was a constant for so long here. But have we ever.... EVER... seen a talent, a player, an impact personality in this town like OV? I can't stand basketball but I feel for Cleveland Cavs fans. They've got the NBA equal of OV in Lebron James but you might as well have him dressed night in night out in a 1/2 Cavs 1/2 Knicks jersey. Thank you Leonsis for saving us from the same.

BTW... can there be any doubt as to who our #1 goalie is after the last two games? Sorry Johnny. BB needs to ride the hot hand. JT is lights out right now.

Welcome back Alex Semin. Stay healthy against Philly and shoot hard... shoot often.

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 4, 2009 1:41 AM | Report abuse

@Irockthered

I'm pretty sure the whole jersey tie-down thing is for the safety of the players. If your jersey gets pulled above your head you can't see to defend youself at all. If you start to go down and your arms are caught in your jersey you can't even break you fall.

Posted by: ludeman95 | January 4, 2009 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Oh... and any 52 haters out there please see tonight's game as exhibit #1.

Are you kidding me? Coaches and GM's go to bed at night dreaming of a guy like MG. Accept him for his short comings because his +'s more than make up for his -'s.

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 4, 2009 1:50 AM | Report abuse

"The goal against JT tonight was offsides. Locker called it."

Just saw the MSG reply and the Rangers announcer also thought they were offsides...another great officiating job!

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | January 4, 2009 2:15 AM | Report abuse

@DevilsCapsGal - I watched on DVR tonight and slowed that play down to frame by frame. It was clearly an offsides play - not even close. Even at regular speed it was just wrong visually. This crew let them play through a lot of stuff that could have been called tonight. That's fine as long as you take care of the obvious and that one was as plain as day.

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 4, 2009 2:30 AM | Report abuse

@ ludeman95 - That sortof makes sense, but it didn't do Brett McLean much good to have his tied down proper-like... assuming he did. Crosby yanked his jersey up over his head like you see in fights among schoolboys, and then pounded on him. At least Semin slithered OUT of his jersey and didn't get hurt again!


Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Re: the offsides goal... - Is the NHL taking it back, now that it's been reviewed and showed to be a bad goal, or does it stand?

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Flyers got one point tonight, but didn't get the second. The lost to the Kings, 2-1 in the shootout. That puts them up one on the Rangers, but 6th in the League (tied with Calgary at 50 points).

Our win puts us at 55, and the loss by the Bruins leaves them at 62, so we're sneaking up on them as well. :-)

LET'S GO, CAPS!!!

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 2:37 AM | Report abuse

We're two points behind the Red Wings at this point, so if they lose to Dallas (ha-ha-ha) and we beat the Flyers, we'll be tied for THIRD IN THE LEAGUE!!!

YEAH!!!

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Stamkos did pretty well against Zherdev in his only NHL fight so far. Granted Zherdev is not a skill player also.

Crosby can fight. He clearly won his first fight vs. the Bruins D Ference. I actually happened to be at that game.

Pitt need Laraque back.

I can't wait to hear the Caps players comments on the Semin fight.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Correction. I meant to say that Zherdev is not a fighter, but a skill player. That was actually a good tilt for 2 guys who never fight (search YT).

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 3:01 AM | Report abuse

@ irockthered

Are you serious? Goals are never awarded or disallowed after the game is over.

That was clearly offside. I yelled "offside" when they entered the zone.

I wouldn't hate on the officials thought. NHL linesmen are actually amazingly good at calling offsides if you think about how difficult that is to do in such a fast game.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 3:06 AM | Report abuse

@ranndino - As a season ticket holder, I can say that officiating has not been good at Verizon this year - we never seem to catch a break like the Rangers did tonight. Seriously, the "Reffs you suck" cheer is becomming too commonplace at Verizon - and it's justified in my opinion.

Posted by: schnervel | January 4, 2009 3:29 AM | Report abuse

Just watched the post game interviews. No one aside from Boudreau mentioned the Semin fight, but Valiquette had some very interesting comments about Ovechkin.

Also, for the few idiots on this blog who keep posting garbage about us being a better team without Green and how he should be traded... watch Boudreau's post game comments. He almost angrily addresses a question regrading Green redeeming himself for a mistake by a reporter. Well said, Bruce, as usual.

@ schnervel

I was not talking about officiating at Verizon this year. I was talking about linesmen generally being very good at calling offside. People love to criticize, but don't realize how tough a job it is to make a decision in a split second when you don't have the benefit of the replay. NHL officials do the best they can. They're human and hockey is a lightning fast game, especially at this level. It's the toughest team sport to officiate, IMO.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 3:36 AM | Report abuse

@ranndino - no doubt the job of an official is tough, but so is the job of many others. Anyways, it would be nice to have better officiating at Verizon. Go Caps!

Posted by: schnervel | January 4, 2009 4:04 AM | Report abuse

Screaming toddler, so I don't have time to read all of the comments...

Crosby needs to be punished in some way for that. That was cheap and dangerous. He drove the guys head into the ground when he was not even looking. Not as bad a Burtuzzi because they were going faster, but that was cheap, dirty and classless.

And Semin's fight got replayed in my house several times for amusement! Even my wife enjoyed that hockey fight. :o)

Posted by: armonroe | January 4, 2009 6:31 AM | Report abuse

Well, the Caps aren't paying Semin to fight, that's for sure. Who ever said Semin should go back to the IR is pretty ignorant. Semin scores goals and is key to the Caps PP and PK. Glad he was back in the lineup. The Verizon Center was going crazy when he was coming off the ice - so loud!
I don't think Semin is going to be a marked man. Well, only if you are talking about him and his injury... The only way I would see people going after him from this fight is to get him out of the game because he doesn't buckle his straps. I could see Semin and Brash start spending time together. Brash can teach Semin how to throw a punch and Semin can teach Brash how to toe drag.

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Where's all the Theo haters now?

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

The Rangers logo urinal targets were an interesting factor. Not sure if that cross the lime or not, but it was funny. Someone spent a lot of time on that one. They were in several mens rooms.

Posted by: lornemyoung | January 4, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Semin's unique punches did look odd, but I reckon he did that so as not to break a knuckle, eh?

Posted by: Bartolo1 | January 4, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, _828. Semin is not a fighter and was never intended to be a fighter. I think he snapped when Staal went after him. I got "oh hell no not again I am sick of your $h!t" off of him during that.

Good on him for at least being willing to stand up for himself, and I do foresee Semin spending time with either Brash or Bradley after this. I tend to think Bradley because Bradley is closer to Semin's weight class, but Brash could do it too.

Also, yeah. JT60 kind of got lost in the whole Semin thing, but he was solid as a rock out there. No stars for being quiet, efficient, and confident. I thought his rebound control and stick work have gotten way, way better, though didn't he give one away?

Did anyone else think that sloppy ice contributed a lot to the pace of the first period? People on both teams kept losing edges, missed passes, bouncing pucks, closed shooting lanes because the shooter had to take a moment to settle the puck down, etc.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

828:

I am a Theodore detractor. He has played very well for a few games. Taken as a whole, he has done "lousy" for the year. He is 35th in goal-against average at 2.98. 35th! Did we expect 35th when he was signed for $4.5M? That's almost as bad as Olie, who was in the low 40s most of last year.

For Theodore to earn his pay, he should be in the top half of goalies for stats. I would be happy anywhere in the 10-15 range. I don't expect Brodeur - Theo doesn't have that kind of skill nor do the Caps play a trap.

If Theo plays this well as long as he played "that bad," (which would be for 2 months) then I will relent.

Until then, I remain, yours truly:

"Hi folks. My name is Tom and I'm a Theodore detractor. Sorry, I just can't quit that easily."

Posted by: tominfl1 | January 4, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of sucker punches, did anyone see what prompted Gomez to sucker punch Nylander?

Posted by: TJ91 | January 4, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Semin's fighting style did look ridiculous, but at least it was an honest attempt to defend himself.

Princess Cindy Crysbaby is enormously embarrassing to hockey: jumping Brett McLean without even giving McLean a chance to defend himself is dirty and dangerous. And this the "Face of the NHL"?

Couple that with the fans of Montreal and Pittsburgh rigging the voting for the allstar game: the NHL needs a case of that brain floss asap.

And finally, McLean got a 5 minute fighting penalty for trying to protect himself? And Nylander got two minutes for the same thing? The refs aren't helping anymore. Pass the brain floss, please.

Posted by: Landshark | January 4, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I should add that I am also a Nylander detractor. Nylander has played better, he looks to be skating more aggressively, but he's still not getting much accomplished.

For the $4.875M/year, let's be honest - we expected close to the point per game pace he enjoyed while playing with Jagr.

He has 18 points in 39 games.

That roughing penalty was ridiculous. Nylander essentially got two minutes for being face washed.

Posted by: tominfl1 | January 4, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

@Landshark: Agreed that the refs aren't helping. Wonder how much that has to do with the jack in fighting majors this year? This isn't the first game this year that the refs almost lost control of because they weren't calling stuff that should have been called. Players are taking matters into their own hands, because they have to.

Of course, the stands weren't exactly warm and friendly, either, if you were in the 400's at Theodore's end of the ice.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and if you look at the NHL website, the ASG balloting title. Ha.

THE FANS HAVE SPOKEN STUFFED THE BALLOT BOX

There, fixed that for you Bettman.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

"And WHAT is up with that stupid rule about the jersey tie-down??! A game misconduct because Semin didn't tuck his shirt in right??! That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!"

Rule 47.13, third paragraph:

"A player or goalkeeper who engages in a fightand whose jersey is not properly “tied-down” (jersey properly fastened to pants), and who loses his jersey (completely off his torso) in that altercation, shall receive a game misconduct penalty. If the player or goalkeeper loses his jersey despite the tie down remaining in tact and attached to the pants, the game misconduct is not applicable, however this must be reported to the League office so that the jersey and the tie down can be examined."

Alex Semin, meet Rob Ray.

Posted by: Section117 | January 4, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Semin better tie his jersey down on Tuesday, and they better put someone on the ice with Semin who'll smack people around if needed, because you know the Flyers are going to try to strip Semin and get him ejected from the game. I also expect them to try to taunt him about it.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

BTW: the "fighting strap" rule was put in place because since the beginning of hockey, the first priority in a fight was to pull your opponents jersey over his head so that one, he couldn't see and two, his arms would be restrained. I think that it was in the 80's when the league mandated that the back of the jersey had to be attached to the shorts-- I guess to make the fights fairer?

Posted by: Landshark | January 4, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Staal's a punk. It wasn't but a minute prior to the Semin set to that AO hammered Staal into the boards on the other end because he'd been a nuisance all night long - wasn't it he that starting punking Nylander earlier? Anyway, the next trip down the ice Staal decides that even with AO on the line he was going after Semin in front of goal. Semin basically backed off at least twice before Staal grabs him and starts swinging. Clearly, Semin didn't want to fight but in the end it was his only option.

Posted by: saintex | January 4, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

In Mixed Martial Arts world its called "Hammer fists" and many fightirs use them the same way to finish up the fighter like Semin did, but ofcourse with more power.
Semin did take down a tough guy by one hit and decided that Staal deserved more cuz he went down TOO EASY :)
So I dont understand why people claim that its girly when best fighters in the world use this technique?! It is legal in fighting and kinda illegal in NHL, but it was a first fight and it was a FACE-TO-FACE MANLIKE style, not cheapshot - thats GIRLY!

Posted by: Hazz | January 4, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I dont want to work
I want to bang on my Staal all day
I dont want to play
I just want to bang on my Staal all day


BTW... Not sure they were open hands, but the hardest part of your on your hands are A) the Heel and B) the pinky side of your fist and then C) the top two fingers in the fist.

In his position, I would have been dropping the same type of blows to someones face, pinky side fist, preferably any Flyer and/or Crosby.

Semin has been watching his MMA. I love his attitude.

Vogel: Are you going to play?
Semin: Пойдите выбирают ваш нос

Great pass... Great skill... Bloody Staal's face... Game misconduct... Awesome stuff...

Posted by: JSchon | January 4, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

When Crysby had his nut punching incident,why did he not get third man in? A Pen player was already enguaged with the other guy.

Glad Theo is finding his groove, he has taken alot of heat in here. I for one have not bashed him like some others.If you look at all the games, he has only had a few bad games.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | January 4, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

@Nice post Hazz

Posted by: JSchon | January 4, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I missed the game because I went to the Gogol Bordello show at the 930 club last night. Of course the second game I miss all year has quite possibly the most hilarious fight of all time. I am still laughing but man I am also proud of Semin for standing up for himself. Hopefully Brashear takes him aside and gives him a little technique. The fact that he fought a Stall brother makes it even better.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | January 4, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

tominfl1,
Who cares about Stats? Look at his win total? Is he last in that? He is winning games and has been winning games. The defense is playing better as a whole - that is why our goalies have been better. Heck, the team is playing better. You should not get so wrapped up into stats as that can jade your perception. He is winning games, I don't care if he lets in 9, if the Caps score 10, he wins the game and he played 'well enough' to get that win.

Ranger stickers in the toilet. That was awesome - reminded me when Crosby first came to down and they had the Crosby image in the toilet saying "Im Thirsty"... classic!

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see Crosby throw one punch. The announcers though were ready to call him the next Sugar Ray. Who do they think they're kidding? He has skill with the skate and the stick for sure, but come on!?! And the All-Star Line-up? Puh-leeez! Ovie is in the top five in goals, hits, and shots, in THE LEAGUE!!??! Doesn't crack the lineup in the East? To paraphrase Flavor Flav, "NHL is a joke."

Posted by: kevbnyc | January 4, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

and Crosby is such a little female dog. Seriously....you grab a guy when his head is down without giving him a chance? Cindy should check out this book....

http://www.amazon.com/Code-Unwritten-Rules-Fighting-Retaliation/dp/1572437561/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231081299&sr=8-2

Posted by: SombreroGuy | January 4, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Semin is just setting up Crosby... Crosby will fight him and then his Mike Tyson skills comes out. I think it's a setup

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see Crosby throw one punch. The announcers though were ready to call him the next Sugar Ray. Who do they think they're kidding? He has skill with the skate and the stick for sure, but come on!?! And the All-Star Line-up? Puh-leeez! Ovie is in the top five in goals, hits, and shots, in THE LEAGUE!!??! Doesn't crack the lineup in the East? To paraphrase Flavor Flav, "NHL is a joke."

Posted by: kevbnyc | January 4, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see Crosby throw one punch. The announcers though, were ready to call him the next Sugar Ray. Who do they think they're kidding? He has skill with the skate and the stick for sure, but come on!?! And the All-Star Line-up? Puh-leeez! Ovie is in the top five in goals, hits, and shots, in THE LEAGUE!!??! Doesn't crack the lineup in the East? To paraphrase Flavor Flav, "NHL is a joke."

Posted by: kevbnyc | January 4, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

What a cheap shot Crosby. He makes me sick. Why the NHL latches on to him so much is beyond me when there are many better players in the league. Amazing.

Posted by: marklee15 | January 4, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Sid the kids reaction to Semin's fight:

I do not see anything special there, he does have good jab, he does have good hook, he has decent footwork. I find someone like Brasher more interesting. He can land someone with one haymaker.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | January 4, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

oh yea, and the NHL allstar voting is a complete laugh. It's obvisous the fans have stuffed box in both West and East. Get real NHL..change how you vote. Take a lesson from MLB. 1/3rd fans, 1/3 coaches and 1/3 players. Come on WAKE UP!

Posted by: marklee15 | January 4, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Looking at the standings today, thank to a Boston loss last night, we are now 2 pts closer (7 pts behind). Also, still 10 pts ahead of Carolina in the SE div.

If the playoffs started Today, Pittsburg would not be in it, and we would have a first round series vs Carolina.

Posted by: AMHV2772 | January 4, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Cindy 's mugging/sucker punching is the kind of behavior that warrants a full scale beating by Horton or someone who knows how to throw the fists.

The Stall/Semin fight was probably more entertaining because Semin seemed willing to go, if not very able. Brashear can give him some pointers for next time. The Cindy fight only had one willing participant.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | January 4, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Looking Ahead: Real Good News (update)

The last 21 games of the season the Caps schedule includes:

13 games against division foe
4 against Atlanta
3 against Tampa
3 against Florida
3 against carolina (2 at home)

2 games against the Maple Leafs

1 against the Bruins (A)
1 against the Penguins (H)
1 against the Flyers (A)
1 against the Predators (A)
1 against the Sabers (H)
1 against the Islanders (A)

Looking good for the stretch run...

GMGM and Coach need to encourage ample time off for our injured to get healthy. No need to rush Feds back.

Posted by: windjammersouth | January 4, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

is there any place to get post game comment links? i was at the game and didn't have a chance to catch any of the interviews.

Posted by: CapsSkins | January 4, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Anybody know what the last 21 games are like for the Caps?

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

oops, I guess someone already had posted that. Thanks for the info!!!

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Some posts have been stating that a few tips from Brashear will help Semin next time... With Semin there will not be a NEXT fight. Semin is done . From this time foward the oppenents who all have seen this video will be bringing it up on the ice to get Semin off his game. If he can over come this that will be his next fight
...As for the pink shirt one reported that is was a white shirt dyed from the jersy ...NHL Jerseys do not bleed their colour..IT was pink ,infact i even thought i seen the top of a tong when Semin fell to the ice .

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | January 4, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

told ya it was bound to happen. these young kids don't play smart hockey and play too recklessly.

They will learn one day.

no cup this year it looks like.

Posted by: windjammersouth | December 4, 2008 8:27 PM


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Windjammer must of taken his meds today.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 4, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Wow another victory :) let's go Caps!

How did we play overall? Did the Rangers came out flying seeking for revenge? How is the Schultz/Green pairing working?

On a side note, karma has a curious way of happening: the alleged two best players in the world somehow can't carry their team in the playoffs...


Posted by: mauree | January 4, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

cbs75:
Ralphie? HA!! :-D

Dave:
Russian Mr. T? "I ain't gettin in no penalty box fool!" ?!? Oh good grief! LOL!!

DCWho:
"The shag-mullet, mr T chains, jorts ... this is Caps hockey." ?!? I don't know whether to be frightened or amused!! ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 4, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Sombrero Guy! How was the show? I was meant to go but I've had a wicked cold all week and couldn't stand around the 930 blowing my nose profusely every 3 minutes. I'm bummed, I'd been waiting for that show for months. Tell me all about it...

Posted by: oo7 | January 4, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Clarkie got TKO'd by a non-fighter and Semin looked like Laverne and Shirley. Embarassing is an understatement !

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 4, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Clark is definitely out of practice. Even what's his name looked surprised that Clarks left was open. After getting dropped, Clark realized it too.
Fortunately, timing can be recovered.


Posted by: oo7 | January 4, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Embarassing is an understatement !

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 4, 2009 12:00 PM
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Not as embarrassing as Mike Green's defensive play.

Am I right? Bong!

Posted by: Section117 | January 4, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm still laughing about the Semin fight ... and the comments are killing me - keep 'em coming!! ;-) And did you read what Stecks and Green said?!? Classic ... I have a feeling that this "style" of fighting is going to be branded, like the sleeper hold or the half nelson. Anyone care to take a stab at naming those beautiful moves?!? ;-)

Puckguru:
He behaved like a man?!? Well, maybe ... but he fought like a girl!

BeemanRS:
I agree - not a pink shirt, a white shirt on a sweaty white (pink) man.

JSchon:
Thanks for emblazing that tune in my head all day!! ;-)

828:
I am still nervous with Theo in goal. He is playing MUCH better (thank goodness) and is almost to the point that I would say he is playing well consistently. But I was still holding my breath with only a one goal lead EVERY time the play got near our goal. I will be thrilled to bits once that fear goes away, but for now he has still not completely won me over. Sorry!

So what the heck happened with Sid last night? What provoked that and how did his PIMs break out? His poor caught-off-guard opponent had a look of 'you've got to be kidding me?' on his face when it was over. What a joke. And THIS is the face of the NHL?!?

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 4, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Semin's healthy, Green's healthy, Jurcina's playing the best hockey of his career, Theodore's been great, the call-ups have all played well and Ovechkin's Ovechkin. So why are all of you 'serious' fans so enthralled with a lame-assed fight? As a Ranger fan, I'll take Semin in a second and let the rest of you giggle about the ancillary nonsense that you find so interesting.

Posted by: Ramone8 | January 4, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Between the two, though I might be a homer, Cindy was the worst offender. That, after previously racking a guy his teammate was holding, was pathetic. The NHL needs to step aside and let reality decide the face of the sport and not over the top marketing campaigns. They are going to screw The Kid up.

Posted by: oo7 | January 4, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Semin fighting made my night. It looked like the first time he used his fists for anything but at the same time was not afaid of anything. Best part was the mound of bling on his neck.

Crosby fight is lame. Yeah he can fight, but his past few have just been gang beatings and muggings. If he wants to fight fine, line it up and fight like a man.

Allstar game can blas mir einen. I'm so sick of them shoving Sid down our throats. He is a good player who is fun to watch, but I do not see where he is revolutionary in any way other than a pretty face the Canadians love. To see the starting lineup all Habs and pens while ignoring other stars of the league is an obvious farce to anybody who knows hockey. Won't be staying up to watch that one.

Posted by: trunkenmath | January 4, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

@ StanleyCup1907
Your looking way to hard if you saw a thong on Semin!

@ cstanton1
How did you like the beat down the Brash gave Downie a few games ago?

Only things the Pens fans have to cheer about is Semins "fight" and Crybabys "fight" ........losers!

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | January 4, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I think that Staal deserved every punch he got, and then some. Looking at the replay, it was clear that Semin was not even close to intentionally running into the goalie (sorry I can't see the backup's name). If you look at the first few punches Staal put in on the replay, you could tell Semin had no intention on fighting, but Staal went right ahead and started throwing punches.

Fighting in the NHL does enough damage (strengthening stereotypes about the sport and deterring new fans) without a player getting kicked out because he didn't want to fight (so his "fight straps" weren't on) but got punched anyways.

Posted by: cheesemonkey421 | January 4, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Ramone8:
Us "serious" fans love our Semin, but his fight was just pretty darn funny. Kind of like seeing your buddy do something goofy - you still love him, but you just can't help but to razz him. Besides, being "serious" ALL of the time is no fun, so lighten up and enjoy the party! :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 4, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

@ StanleyCup1907

Jerseys dont bleed...oh come on! Why were you looking at his A@$ anyway?

LOL

Posted by: RedRocker | January 4, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

@Hazz
My point exactly
There are many idiots out here laughing at Semin who probably couldn't fight their way out of wet paper bag. I am one of those who think that guy is probably one mean fighter if provoked.
There are those who are making much to do about the color of his under-shirt; obviously, not well traveled people who does not realized that there are vast different meanings among cultures. Yes. Virginia, not everyone think like the Americans. Besides, I bet many of us have mixed clothes on our laundry, not uncommon with young people living on their own.
When I was a young professional boxer many times my t-shirts became pink because of my laundry skills. I wore them and the guys at the gym did not make fun of them.

Posted by: opita | January 4, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

ya the crosby fight was one in a series of cheap shots by him against other players.

katie/ tarik, any word on who has been getting the hard hat these last few games?

Posted by: am_jim | January 4, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

@007 - The show was awesome. I am actually sore from jumping/dancing/rocking my face off for almost 2 hours. Its the second time I've seen Gogol Bordello, the first being last March at the electric factory. They bring high energy the entire time. highly recommended. I'm sure they'll be back in the area within a year.

I did see one dude there with a Brooks Laich jersey. He came straight from the game. I bought him a beer haha.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | January 4, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

The reason jerseys are tied down is that if a player gets in a fight, it used to be they would pull their right arm (or left) out of their jersey so they could gain an advantage and punch a lot more freely since a. the jersey isn't restricting their movement and b. the other player can't keep them from punching by just grabbing their jersey. So the NHL decided to have players tie down their uniforms to eliminate that option. It's the same with elbow pads. Players sometimes would shed the elbow pad on their punching arm before a fight so they could swing more freely. Now if a player does that it's an automatic game misconduct.

Posted by: nhcaps | January 4, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

@am_jim

Sean Collins got the hardhat last night.

Posted by: fullright | January 4, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris Clark got the hardhat for the Tampa game...looks like their running out of space to put the numbers on it.

You can watch the postgame interviews on the Caps' website

Posted by: fullright | January 4, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

You know, I think we need something else to talk about. Personally, I think that while the fight was funny, it worked and Staal was flat on the ice. Semin looked positively smug coming off the ice to my eyes. Kudos to Semin for standing up for himself and looking his attacker in the eyes. Better than Crysby's cheap shots.

I think think Crosby is trying to take the team on his back like Ovechkin does and doesn't know how he does it.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"If the player or goalkeeper loses his jersey despite the tie down remaining in tact and attached to the pants, the game misconduct is not applicable, however this must be reported to the League office so that the jersey and the tie down can be examined."
What I want to know is, how in the heck does that work???

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 4, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"I think Crosby is trying to take the team on his back like Ovechkin does and doesn't know how he does it."
I agree with you. He seems to be desperate to prove he can be a leader since his #s have gone down, but his desperation is over-riding his common sense, leading him to do stupid stuff, i.e. idiotic fighting.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 4, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero, thats awesome. I love that band.
I remember going to see the Cure and Smith would wear the jersey of whatever city he was in. Caps, Rangers, wherever, if there was a team, he wore the jersey. I always thought that was pretty cool, as a lot of the crowd were goth. I remember looking at my girlfriend and asking why she didn't dress like that. SHe said "because I dont think I'm a vampire". I decided then and there that I was gonna get me a black latex vampire chick and dress her in hockey jerseys. so hot.


Posted by: oo7 | January 4, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

jmu_capsgirl - I assume they're talking about the strap tearing or something.

So, how about Tuesday's game against the Flyers? This'll be a toughie, no question about it. Who starts in goal at both ends? I guess that Theodore is going to get the start against Philly, and my bet's on Niittymaki for Philly after the performance he turned in last time. Philly does an aggressive forecheck, which we've had trouble with in the past.

What do we need to look for, and what do we need to do to win? Here's my list:

(1) Never give up. Obviously.
(2) Precision, especially on special teams. Philly gets a lot of shorthanded goals - maybe we should try the same thing?
(3) Solid goaltending is going to be key.
(4) Look for cheap shots and dirty play, and put a stop to it early. Brash had that right the last time.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

JMU:
I think it also has something to do with the fact that, when that happens, you can often see the strap tugging at the breezers before it breaks away.

BTW, I am not happy that Clark is fighting. Don't get me wrong - I am happy to see him getting in there and trying to make things happen, but he is just coming off a series of injuries, one of those is still fresh and wrapped, and, well, I'd just like to see him play for awhile (hopefully getting back to his old self) before he is sidelined with another injury, for Pete's sake!

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 4, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Wait what was wrong with Semins undershirt?

Posted by: trunkenmath | January 4, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Someone should trade for Petr Prucha and Max Afinogenov. Good players stuck in the doghouse at their current clubs.

Someone needs to rescue Maxim. As a RW he might look mighty good on our 2nd line and would fit into our style of play, IMO.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

oops, I guess someone already had posted that. Thanks for the info!!!

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 10:57 AM


@ _828

Windjammersouth posts the year ever day...

Posted by: Greg S. | January 4, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

@kittypawz |
About the Flyers game on tuesday.I think this is a tough game for Philthy. they are comming off of the west coast trip(played L.A. sat. night) and Sunday is a travel day. I assume they will go home, then travel back to Washington. We need to jump on them early. I see JT playing in net against Nitty. They suffered a few injuries on the west coast.

Special teams will be a key to the game, it usually is agaisnt the Flyers.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | January 4, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

@randinno
are you kidding about maxim? that guy cant play for the life of him. he was an all hype star who got burnt out quick.

about the fights, though semin earns the award for the sissiest fight ever, crosby proves that he cant take the pressure again by wrapping his arms around and dragging down mclean before he could even drop his gloves.

Posted by: richmondphil | January 4, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

and about you guys and the "oh", yes, even down here in richmond does the "O" get yelled. I was sort of caught off guard when they yelled it during an SPHL game down here.

Posted by: richmondphil | January 4, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Philly is hurting right now.

Last night they had 2 Dmen playing forward and dressed guys who were hurt just to sit on the bench in case they needed players. The injury bug has moved onto them.

Its upsetting because Id like to see the Caps/Flyers play with full squads on Tuesday.

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | January 4, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

@ Boo

Clark was apparently told by the coaching staff and management to do everything humanly possible to get back on IR ASAP.

---

Watched the extended highlights of the Russia - Canada classic to examine what the heck happened at the end once more. Hurts even more now.

1. Had Klopov skated over the red line before attempting to score an empty netter there would be almost no time left on the clock even if he missed.

2. Had he scored it would have been game over.

3. We had 3 chances to get the puck out of the zone around the 12 sec to go mark and couldn't get it done. Voinov had his stick lifted at the last moment as he tried to clear it.

4. Had Kulikov not gone down to block the shot right in front of our goalie it would have probably been an easy save for Zhelobnyuk. He would've kicked the rebound to the corner and the time would run out.

Still, one of the greatest hockey games ever played in terms of intensity and drama even though many of the goals were not great (was not the best display of goaltending by either team).

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

The thing that gets me about this is - and I had read the rule and was familiar with it, but I did not have any explanation for WHY it was in place. I have since heard two reasons for it being in place:

1) So guys can't swing unrestricted
2) So they can see without their jersey on their face

I can see suspending a guy for reason #1. That makes sense.

If reason #2 really IS one of the reasons for the rule, I don't understand suspending a guy who is removing a jersey that is being pulled off by hiss opponent in order to protect his ability to see.

McLean did not completely "lose' his jersey, but he got piledrivered into the ice by Crosby when he couldn't see. How is that cool in any way? Why wasn't Crosby ejected from the game for that? It's clear to me he could have broken the guy's neck with that shot.

But if McLean had lost his jersey, he would have gotten suspended for it, even though he was just trying to see?

That's what I'm getting at.

Sometimes having the jersey ON is more dangerous for the guy in the jersey than taking it off is. Semin was trying to protect himself, and the other guy stripped him. He didn't pull his OWN jersey off to improve his ability to swing!

I should think that a rule like that ought to be worded that if a player removes his OWN jersey, he gets suspended, but if someone else pulls it off of him, he doesn't.

Does that make any sense to anybody but me?

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Afinogenov was fun to watch a couple of years ago but last year and this year he has been a minus machine with minimal offensive production. In addition, he is struggling with groin injuries this year. Not something we need more of on this team.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | January 4, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

So the face of the NHL goes and starts punching a player in the back of the head and gonads while that player was fighting another Pens player a couple weeks ago and then he sucker punched McLean slams his face to the ice.

I guess that is what happens when you get taken under the wing of Mario. Look at the 2 guys he has taken into his house and mentored. Both guys were good players with there heads filled with Mario's "This is how the game should be played..." This is the kind of stuff Mario would pull when Hunter would piss him off. Mario would eventually lose it and hack and slash at people.

Quality guy there. And the Penguin fans talk about how dirty a player OV is. As usual, Pens fans spewing out both ends.

Posted by: FusilliJerry1 | January 4, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

Yes, I'm serious. While Max has been a disappointment for a while now he has world class skill. Top of the line material. In the hands of our magician Bruce and surrounded by our other Russians he would shine. All he needs is confidence in his ability again and Bruce is great at giving that to his players. If we were to get him he'd be at least as good as Flash has been this year and at most close to Semin. Just my opinion, of course. You may disagree.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

yeah, that's all he needs. He's on the block, keep him away from our capitals. i would take stafford over him easily, who is also on the block.

Posted by: richmondphil | January 4, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

@ irockthered

I can see where you're coming from, but originally the rule was put in because all the fighters would not have their jerseys strapped down and would end up half naked at the end of every fight (just watch some fight videos from a few years ago).

I do agree, however, that's it doesn't make much sense to throw a guy out of the game when the other dude clearly pulled his jersey off him. Staal knew exactly what he was doing there. He knew that by doing it he'd have Sasha kicked out of the game.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

Like I said, you may disagree. There's nothing special about Stafford. There is about Afinogenov. It's probably not gonna happen, but if it did you'd see that I was right :)

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

@ Capsfannmiss Re: third man in. I've been wondering that myself.

And that is why I consider the refereeing uneven in the NHL. The third man in rule is there for a reason; Crosby violated that rule, punched someone in the groin, and got "roughing".

At least for last night he got: Fighting (5 minutes), Instigator (2 minutes), Unsportsmanlike Conduct (2 minutes), Misconduct (10 minutes). Now THAT is a fair call.

Instigator: McLean got jumped; he was not looking to fight Crosby.
Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Crosby pulled McLean's jersey over his head and piledrivered him into the ice. The jersey stayed on.
Misconduct (10 minutes): Goes along with the other two
Fighting (5 minutes): Duh

Whereas, if you put Semin in the role, in that fight, of McLean, then Staal should have gotten the same set of penalties that Crosby got.

Instigator: Semin clearly wasn't looking for a fight, but Staal started with him anyway. Had Semin not joined the fight, Staal MIGHT have gotten a roughing penalty for his hand in Semin's face. But he might not have.
Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Staal pulled Semin's jersey up over his head to restrict his ability to see. (OK, he wasn't trying to strip Semin's jersey off, but he pulled it over Semin's head and Semin slithered out of it so he could see!)
Misconduct (10 minutes): As with Crosby, goes with the other two.
Fighting (5 minutes): Duh

Instead, Semin gets a game misconduct because he didn't have his jersey tied down.

Incidentally, I can SEE a ten minute misconduct for whaling on Staal after Staal was down. But not for this. Not when removing his jersey was a move by Semin to protect himself.

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I watch a lot of Buffalo games. Maxim is done. stafford is 23.maxim is 29, and already proving he is past his peak. let's get another overpaid old russian.

Posted by: richmondphil | January 4, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

@ ranndino - Exactly. So why wasn't Staal given the Crosby treatment for HIS role in that fight?

As for half-nekkid hockey players... who complained? ;-)

Just kidding!

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

maxim would be good for getting goals by jumping out of the way of slapshots and having it deflect off his shin pads.

Posted by: richmondphil | January 4, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

StanleyCup1907
You ever seen a wet t-shirt contest? You ever been in a white shirt while it's wet? Well, the color(not colour) of your skin shows through... so, your pink shirt idea is about as dumb as your Semin should Stay on the IR comment.
Let me guess, you are a Briere fan?

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Who's your team up in Canada? Any dude that uses LOL probably has some pink shirts of his own.

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

As a RW he might look mighty good on our 2nd line and would fit into our style of play, IMO.

Posted by: ranndino | January 4, 2009 2:05 PM
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Maybe if he was a little cheaper and had a better than outside chance at resigning him this year, yeah.

Posted by: Section117 | January 4, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Crosby's fight reminded me of that youtube video with Samuel L. Jackson demonstrating the Inglewood Jack.

"What'd I say?!"

"INGLEWOOD JACK!"

"What's it called?!"

"INGLEWOOD JACK!"

"I thought so"

Posted by: ChrisinSS | January 4, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Ohh, thanks ladies! I was thinking the jersey was still attached to the pants and I got the mental image of the whole thing coming off. Like Slapshot, only more amusing/embarassing.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 4, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

irockthered,
Crosby got the Instigator because he started a fight when he has a shield on his helmet. Had Semin started the fight, he would have gotten an Instigator penalty because he has a shield on his helmet. Basically, guys that have shields are not supposed to fight, well, at least start one up. As for the other penalties, who knows? Remember when Sloan got taken out and we were on a 9 minute penalty. They guy that started the fight had a shield...

Posted by: _828 | January 4, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Quick point that's not been raised as yet (I think).

Credit to Boudreau and his staff for recognising the Rangers were susceptible to the counter attack on their PP as they had already given up a number of shorties. By making an adjustment to who got PK time, (i.e more for Semin/Ovie) he was able to exploit their weakness to such an extent that it resulted in the GWG.

Only a small adjustment but in such a tight game it was just enough to make the difference.

Posted by: DaveUKCapsFan | January 4, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Crosby is as classless as they come-- and pleeeeeeeeeeez don't ever compare him to jags. Avery has a sense of honor too-- but just for two words he got chucked out and ripped through countless blogs, but he's a good player-- and fights like a man. Crosby though just plain sux. Pin-up boy for NHL, but sad excuse of player. And he never gets called-- forget it. Fortunately Jags is off in Russia where he can skate now to his hearts content and doesn't have to deal with all the crap politics of NHL. Maybe Malkin will find a better team to lead and then Sidney can be a solo prima donna. Maybe next time he will do a Mike Tyson ear biting episode for us. he needs a plaque right alongside Chris Simon for sportsmanship conduct award.

Posted by: ardeladimwit | January 4, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

@_828

It's actually more complicated than that.

According to the rules, the Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty to Crosby was for the face shield.

Instigator can be for any of: "distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season."

The Instigator got him the 5 minute fighting major and the 10 minute misconduct.

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

@828
Hi folks. My name is Bob and I'm a Theodore detractor. Sorry, I just can't quit that easily. I agree with Tom, I did not get on JT's case after a couple of games and I'm not jumping on the bandwagon after a few either. I'm very happy with the way he is playing right now and will be his #1 fan if he can keep it up. As for wins, we had wins in spite of JT before, now we are winning with him. GO! JT GO! but I remain a sceptic.

Posted by: majiksea | January 4, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I loved when the desk jockey for CSN last night said that Crosby probably got some extra penalty minutes for having an ugly uniform, too.

Posted by: _jordan | January 4, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Hi,

how does buying tickets online and placing them on will call work? I've never done it before, so I wanted to know if that is more convenient than waiting for the tickets to be delivered

Posted by: jogabonito | January 4, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys, look again at the penalty Tyler Sloan drew from Rene Bourque. According to nhl.com (http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20082009/GS020086.HTM), the penalties broke down as instigator, fighting, and instigator - face shield. The face shield penalty is only applicable if instigator has already been called according to this.

Viktor Kozlov said it, and he's right. The stars get the calls, and that's how it is. Crosby is the living example of this.

*shrug* I still say that Semin did good. Style? No. Effectiveness? Yes. Now he just needs to tie his jersey down and be ready for more, because teams are targeting him and trying to disrupt his game or get him taken out of it. *shrug* And I thought he looked sexy out there. :D

Anyway. capsfanmiss: Yeah, and that makes sense. PP as well as PK, because Philly takes a lot of penalties, but they also score a lot of SHG. The defense has got to be solid and has to do the takeaway thing, though, because Philly has some really good shooters.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

As bad as his fight was, Semin is still behind Jari Kurri and The Great One in terms of most embarassing fights ever. YouTube search Gretzky v. Neal Broten (another legendary paperweight) and Kurri with Phil Sykes of the LA Kings. Don Cherry is still laughing somewhere. I say put 40 pucks a year in the net and forget about dropping the gloves again.

Posted by: ElGordo9 | January 4, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Bears update:
Bears at Worcester tied 1-1 at the end of the 1st period. Bears goal by Giroux. Varlamov in goal with Machesney (back from Switzerland) backing up. Neuvirth sent back to S.Carolina.

Posted by: tess2201 | January 4, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Bears take a 2-1 lead on a goal by Aucoin.

Posted by: tess2201 | January 4, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

He who laughs last is not Semin and Crosby, but I bet Malkin and Ovechkin are laughing it up very hard

Posted by: washcapsfanandorioles | January 4, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

@washcapsfanandorioles

No idea why you'd think that - Ovie and Semin are very good friends so other than him razzing his buddy...and Ovie and Crosby seem to recognize each other as great players in today's game. Ovie is a classy guy & I doubt he's "laughing it up hard" as you put it.

Posted by: CapsSighting | January 4, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Bears update:
End of the second period, Bears lead 5-2. Goals by Aucoin, Pinizzotto, and a hat trick by Alex Giroux. (Alex also had a goal and 3 assists in last night's game. Looks like he's making up for lost time. Why couldn't he do that in Washington?)

Posted by: tess2201 | January 4, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Going to have to save the Semin fight onto my computer. Any time a laugh is needed, click on the bongo icon.

Posted by: Steve_R | January 4, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Bears update:
Final score Bears 7- Worcester 2.
Bears goals by Aucoin(2), Giroux(4) and Pinizzotto(1).

#1 star: Giroux
#2: Aucoin
#3: Mink

Varlamov gets the win.

AHL All-star voting ends tonight. Teams to be announced Tuesday (I think). By virtue of having the best record in the league as of today, Bob Woods and Mark French will coach the Canadian All-Star team. The USA/World team will be coached by the coaches of the 2008 Calder Cup team (Chicago Wolves).

Posted by: tess2201 | January 4, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Semin by a landslide, because over my dead smelly butt am I voting for Crosby. Period.

Posted by: info_stuporhighway | January 4, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Good to see Giroux go back down and play well. He needs to stay positive and continue growing as a player. He's got the skills to be a good NHL player...his time will come.

Posted by: meagle | January 4, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

So McLean was interviewed about the Crosby fight after his game today against Montreal and had some interesting things to say.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/flapanthers/2009/01/brett-mclean-on.html

Posted by: Section117 | January 4, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

While I commend Crosby for doing something, there were losing 4-1 at home again,the manner in which he did it was bush league. he attacked a defenseless player. if he wanted to fight why not start after the whistle instead of attacking on a faceoff, someone with their head down and immediately trying to pull his jersey over his head for no apparent reason. Since Florida is in the same playoff race as Pittsburg, it should be interesting to see how Florida responds to this after they have seen the tape. As for Semin, the fact that he got disqualified is irresponsible at best. The fight was terrible, but at least he does not put up with any garbage in front of the net. For that Semin is more of a man then Crosby.

Posted by: ergoroc | January 4, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

irockthered

The tie-down is for the player's safety. In old times it was more difficult to get the jersey all the way off, so your arms would be tied up. You wouldn't be able to defend yourself. That's IF you could get it over your head.

I know a lot of guys never could get their jersey over their shoulderpads without help. In a fight, you try to get the jersey over the guy's head so he can't see the punches coming. If they can't get the jersey on easily, they surely aren't getting if off easily.

In Semin's case, everything he had on (sans pink undershirt - apparently that's "important") he was able to wriggle out of. No small feat when fighting.

Someone earlier said that his tee was pink because he mixed his whites and reds.

Puh-lease!

Do you honestly think that someone making $4.6 million is doing his own wash????

Posted by: Greg S. | January 4, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

ranndino:
I guess they need the cap space ... ;-)

Steve:
Bongo icon ... HA!! :-D

jogabonito:
Will call is easy - they just hold the tickets for you at the gate. All you need to do is go to the will call window and show your ID. I personally like to have tickets delivered for any event that I am going to so that I don't have to stand in line, but if there is not enough time to get the tix delivered, will call works fine (I have even left tickets for other people at will call and not had any problems). The only thing I would never do is print my tickets out - why pay for that when I can get them delivered or pick them up from will call for free?!?

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 4, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

@Greg S. re: Semin's "pink" shirt and the laundry - that was a joke! He probably couldn't wriggle out of that because it was attached permanently to his trousers as a unibody piece.

Re: the tie-down... So they're apparently real effective, since Crosby was able to pull McLean's jersey over HIS head with it tied down properly... :-p For an accessory for the player's safety, they don't seem to work very well, if that's the case.

What is it, one strip of cloth in the back of the jersey to hook it to the shorts? If they were serious about protecting the player from having his jersey pulled over his head, the tie-down would be better than that... At least four or five points, and hard snaps to prevent it from "accidentally" coming undone.

Re: the Bears - Good game! Wish I'd been there, but very glad to hear they stomped. :-)

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

the tie down is for the protection of the other guy, in this case stall, not semin (although given semin's ability to fight, not much protection needed). if, for example, brash was able to get out from his jersey/elbow pads, imagine how hard he could jackhammer someone.

if the tie down is attached properly, it's not easy to get it undone. i'm guessing semin didn't have it attached at all, vs a malfunction.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | January 4, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I hope Semin fights Crosby!

Posted by: Tikkanen08 | January 4, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I think Crosby has lost a lot of respect around the world of hockey with his pitiful displays of pugilism in recent weeks. If the NHL had any integrity, he would be suspended.

Semin, on the other hand, has likely gained the respect of his peers for squaring off. If Sasha chose not to close his hand so as not to break the fingers with which he gets paid to score goals, then so be it. I have no problem with that wise choice, and I'm sure Marc Staal down on his backside didn't either.

Winnner: Semin

Posted by: dml1077 | January 4, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I like the idea of Semin fighting Crosby the next time we face the Pens, but isn't Crosby a bigger guy? Sure, he's a pussy and uses cheap shots, but who needs a Gordie Howe when it'll prove Semin's point if he turns in a hat trick for the Caps in their barn?

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

@dcsportsfan1 - See, I'm getting two versions of what the tie-down is for... You say it's to protect the other guy, and Greg S. says it's to protect the player wearing the jersey. It's quite possibly for both reasons, but as I said... it's not very effective, if Crosby was able to jerk McLean's jersey up over his head like that...

@kittypawz - Semin is 6'2", 205# and Crosby is 5'11", 200#, according to the two teams' websites. I'm all for Semin giving Crosby what-for, as long as Crosby doesn't cheapshot him back onto the IR list...!

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

OK, I give ... trying to find NHL on the Fly online. The coverage last night was a riot!! :-) Does anyone know if it is available online?

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 4, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

@irockthered: See, that's exactly what I want. I'd rather see him humiliate Crosby by scoring a hat trick than by breaking a finger putting Cindy's face into the ice, because I don't want him to miss any more games. He does us a lot more good skating than fighting, for his safety.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 4, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

rock red, i can see why it could be viewed as protecting the player (semin), but the tie down was implemented due to the antics of rob ray. he got an advantage if his jersey/pads came off.

Rob Ray Rule
During fights, Ray's helmet, jersey, and pads were often easily torn off by his opponents, giving them nothing to grab on Ray's body. With nothing to hold on to, his opponents would slide backwards on their skates when they threw punches, knocking them off balance and allowing Ray to grab their jerseys and move in with a distinct advantage. This allowed Ray to control nearly every fight he was in. Fellow Sabre Brad May often employed this technique as well. As a result of this practice, the NHL created a new rule enforcing additional penalties for players who removed jerseys or pads during a fight. Pundits saw this as a direct result of Rob Ray's style of fighting, and nicknamed the rule the Rob Ray Rule.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | January 4, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

ps. the caps once had a maniac named john kordic who was nothing but a brawler. he would leave the ice with his suspenders on and nothing else.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | January 4, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Boo:

thanks for the information and how early can you go there to pick up your tickets? I'm assuming you can probably only pick them up on the actual game day.

Posted by: jogabonito | January 4, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

@kittypawz - Amen to that!

@dcsportsfan1 - That, my friend, is a very amusing image.

Posted by: irockthered | January 4, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

jogabonito:
I think that is correct, although the Caps actually printed tickets early for me once and I was able to pick them up at Guest Services inside the VC (when I was at an earlier game). Not sure if they only do that for STHs or not ... I would suggest calling Guest Services to find out what your options are (you can find the # on www.washcaps.com). Good luck!

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 4, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

This is just getting weird. Speaking of Cindy...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08255/911194-61.stm

Posted by: Greg S. | January 4, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

@Greg:

I understand Mario's wife does Cindy's laundry and presses and folds all his pretty blue shirts....

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | January 4, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

If anyone wonders why their coach gets fired (I think he'll be gone by the end of next week), it's Cindy Crysby whining to Mario.

Posted by: Greg S. | January 4, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Semin been studying sorority girl fights or whut? At least Crosby knows how to make a fist.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 4, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

For all of the Ralphie / Christmas Story references, you can see both videos here:
http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2009/01/03/semin-fights-scut-farkus.html

Also, I love this OFB post in response:
"What's so special about Semin? I don't see anything special there. Yes, he does skate well, has a good head, good pass, lots of goals. But there's nothing else. Even if you compare him to Sean Avery from Dallas ... Avery is a much more interesting fighter. The way he moves, his jabbing abilities, his thinking on the ice and his anticipation of the hook is so superb. I think that if you take any player, even if he is "dead wood," and start pushing his buttons, you'll get a fighter. Especially if he scores 100 penalty minutes. No one is going to care about anyone else. No one is going to care whether he possesses great crosses. Let's say you put someone in front of the net and let him wave a stick at the goalie, and he talks smack to the media about his hot ex-girlfriends are dating that night's opponent; everyone will say "Wow!" and then hand him a one way ticket to therapy. That's what they like here. And in Russia people like beautiful fighting."

HA!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 5, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

BTW, is it just me, or does the kid that Ralphie fights look an awful lot like a Staal?!?

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 5, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

From the Miami Herald:

Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby told reporters after Saturday's game that he and Brett McLean talked about fighting during the first period and that McLean had agreed to it.

''Yes usually means yes,'' said Crosby, explaining why he attacked McLean in the faceoff circle during the second period of the Panthers' 6-1 victory.

McLean said Crosby might be confusing conversations he had with someone else.

''We had not, at any point,'' said McLean about he and Crosby talking about fighting. ``It was as surprising to me as it was to you guys.''

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 5, 2009 2:24 AM | Report abuse

From FanHouse.com RE: the "glorious video" of Semin's fight:

"Words fail me. Honestly, I was waiting for him to start pulling out Staal's hair, who apparently wanted nothing to do with Semin's open-handed slaps to the back of the head. I can't decide if this is the best fight video ever, or the worst fight video ever. Still, this leaves open the debate as to who the worst fighter in the NHL currently is. On one hand, we've seen Crosby punch a guy in the groin, and then do whatever it was he did to Brett McLean. On the other hand, we have Semin who seems to have developed a strategy similar to the ones we all used to see in high school. You know, when Jessica tried to fight Nicole for kissing Josh behind the pop machine."

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 5, 2009 2:29 AM | Report abuse

A comment from youtube about the fight....

"Semin looked like a transvestite beating up it's cheating boyfriend on jerry springer."

Don't worry Semin over time and some lessons from Brashear you will get better! But I agree, just slap Stall like the b*itch he is! And definately don't hurt your hands...we just got you back off of IR and we need you in Philly!

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