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Busted Steroids Dealer Says He Sold to Caps, Nats

Update: Click here for reactions from the NHL, Caps and players.

A man arrested in Florida yesterday for possession of anabolic steroids bragged to law enforcement officials that he has sold the performance-enhancing drugs to professional athletes, including those on the Washington Capitals and Washington Nationals, according to a report from Tampa Bay Online.

The report said investigators aren't sure if Richard Thomas of Lakeland, Fla., is telling the truth when he claimed he's central Florida's biggest steroid provider and sold to Capitals and Nationals players. Thomas did not name specific athletes, the report said.

The arrest of Thomas and his wife, Sandra, was announced last night by Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd at a 10 p.m. news conference. Judd said $200,000 in illegal steroids were seized by detectives.

"The only thing he said specifically was he sold to the Washington Capitals and the Washington Nationals," Judd said. "We asked him because we knew that would create a firestorm on two more occasions because we don't want to be quoted as saying that. Richard Thomas told us that he sold steroids to ballplayers on those teams. Now, is that one ballplayer? Or is it two ballplayers? We don't know."

According to the report, Richard and Sandra Thomas are facing several charges, including 10 counts of possession of anabolic steroids with intention to sell and deliver, one count of possession of a firearm in commission of a felony, 10 counts of importation of anabolic steroids into the state of Florida and a single count of maintaining a residence for selling drugs, according to the report.

The report said law enforcement officials plan to investigate Thomas's claims that he sold the drugs to Capitals and Nationals as well as other professional athletes.

[Ed. Note: We'll have more on this soon. Until then, click here for Dan Steinberg's take.]

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  May 27, 2009; 8:39 AM ET
 
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Comments

This is crap!

Posted by: redskins2448 | May 27, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

I wondered how Semin got so huge & mean.

Posted by: uncatim | May 27, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

If he was selling them to the nationals as well he must not have had the good ones

Posted by: mgreenway | May 27, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

IF there is a capitals player(s) using please let it be (a) Thomas Fleishmann (b) Shoane Morrisonn (c) Michael Nylander or (d) all of the above. It would be a much easier pill to swallow and would make the break up easier too.

Posted by: BMorrison808 | May 27, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

The fact that he claims the Nats are using clearly suggests he's on something a bit stronger than his own steroids. I'd hate to see what would happen to the Nats already abysmal record if that was true.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | May 27, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that the guy has his base of operations in Tampa and yet only the Nationals and Capitals were named. I'd find it hard to believe that Nats and Caps players got mixed up with this guy but not Rays and Lightning players. Just what the Caps need, another distraction.

Posted by: cainoo7x | May 27, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

So that's how Mike Green turned in to the Incredible Hulk during those clips at the Verizon Center!! It all makes sense now.

For the record, I think this is bogus. If it is indeed true, however was buying them from the Caps org needs to be fired because he obviously wasn't doing his job effectively. Have you seen Schultz or Flash?? hahaha

Posted by: Don-Ald | May 27, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Here comes an interview with Canseco saying, "I'm not surprised."

Posted by: snakegriffin | May 27, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I can see if Nats are implicated, spring training is down there. But Caps??

The Nats must have be applying the roids to their feet or just plain rectally, cause their not workin'!

Posted by: bhound69 | May 27, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Adam Dunn...enough said

Posted by: slappygilmore | May 27, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I thinkk the guy should be charged with false advertising as well. If he is juicing the Nats and they still can't win, they should have to give that oney back.

Put Brashera in a room with young Mr. Thomas and let him get a little Jack Bauer on him, well find out what he knows

Posted by: CheyenneWY | May 27, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

"Steriods"?

Don't they have editors at The Post anymore? VVPTS.

Posted by: bs2004 | May 27, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I knew Juice was a terrible nickname!!

Posted by: NFeKPo | May 27, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

We needed Druce not Juice

Posted by: CheyenneWY | May 27, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

I think this guy is just another Pens fan, trying to stir up trouble! And by claiming he sold to Nats players, he's also crazy - has he seen their record?

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | May 27, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The Junkies are hacks! Obviously to be called the Sports Junkies and know nothing about the game of hockey is red flag number one. But to just turn on your local guys because one dealer couple in Tampa said they sold to them is classless. I use to give them a pass because I believed they were borderline retarded, I see that isnt the case at all, they're just classless hacks.

Posted by: j3rockstar | May 27, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Tarik, I hope you will stay on top of this to refute it as soon as possible. If any of it is true and proven to be some of the top Caps, it could really hurt the team's relationship with the fans big time.

Posted by: ken_berlin | May 27, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Sorry guys but I am as much a fan as you all are and I am not going to dismiss this story as fabricated, for the moment. I, hope it isn't true but, to think that there are no Steroids in hockey is completely stupid. Anything that can get a paid professional athlete an edge is tempting and some players will succumb to it, especially if you have injuries and need to keep training and keep going.
Also, some players gain massive amount of weight and size in one or two seasons. It could be natural but if there is steroid use in other sports, why not hockey.
We will have to wait and see.

Posted by: atybat | May 27, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"Richard Thomas told us that he sold steroids to ballplayers on those teams."

He does know that the Caps are a hockey team...no balls...this guy is crazy!

This is too funny! So he lives in Florida and only sells to DC sports teams...does this sound fishy or what?!? Looks like he would move up here if we are his only clients.

Posted by: NatyBG | May 27, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

the only person i can see it being is maybe the donald, but other than that no one really looks "roided" up at all

Posted by: _stevo | May 27, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

does anyone know the nhl's testing policy?

Posted by: _stevo | May 27, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

"If any of it is true and proven to be some of the top Caps, it could really hurt the team's relationship with the fans big time."

I'd have to disagree on this one. If this is true (and to be honest, it very well could be), it will sting the fans for a little bit. But when all's said and done, this is the perfect time (off-season) for something like this to break. By the time the season begins, I highly doubt attendance will be lowered because some of our guys (might have) used steroids. I doubt you would see any less #8/52 etc., sweaters in the arena- should they happen to be named. Thankfully, we have been de-sensitized due to the overwhelming coverage of PED's in other sports.

Posted by: Fro_ | May 27, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Here is what I'm worried about: if this is how the Nats perform while taking performance enhancing drugs, can you imagine how they'd be without them? Here is my thought: the guy has ties to Montreal? Sports fans in Montreal seem to hate Ovechkin (it's a Crosby town) and many are still burned about the Expos moving to DC.

Posted by: Matt23185 | May 27, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

if any hockey player's taking steroids, it's for a faster recovery time, not to get "roided up."
that said, I choose to believe this guy's full of poop until there's unassailable evidence to the contrary

Posted by: honed | May 27, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

@_stevo

The NHL has a very laxed testing policy. The schedule is posted/sent to the team well in advance and only rarely are there any unannounced testing. The enforcement is even more laxed. How many hockey players have been caught in those tests? That should answer your question...
Also, with regards to your statement: "the only person i can see it being is maybe the donald, but other than that no one really looks "roided" up at all", I am not sure that I completely agree with you. This being said, I will not speculate and I hope it is not true.


Posted by: atybat | May 27, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

All I am seeing is finger pointing at DC sports teams by people with ties to Philly, Tampa, and Canada...this is crazy! They must have just thrown in the Nats so it wouldn't look like a complete attempt to take down the Caps. I mean let's be honest...no one should be threatened by the Nats! I will be waiting for proof before I start to worry...and I won't be holding my breath!

Posted by: NatyBG | May 27, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

He probably sold them to Jon Kordic.

Posted by: paperboy76 | May 27, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Whoever this Thomas guy is...he has just angered Elijah Dukes...he doesnt want that...

Posted by: SA-Town | May 27, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

without names, its just more media tabloid journalism....

as often as the Caps got down to FLA, I'd doubt.

less likely is the Nats...like they need steroids to fix their problems...last year, without steroids, we would have lost MORE than 102 games....?

Posted by: outrbnksm | May 27, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

@atybat

thanks for the testing policy info and i have never heard of anyone being caught for PEDs in the nhl before. As for my previous comment, you could be right if some of the guys were using it to recover from an injury quicker (andy pettite's BS story that he took steroids to help his team), but let's hope it ain't true

Posted by: _stevo | May 27, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

This was bound to happen. Had been fearing this moment for a long time. To those who have eyes to see it's been obvious for the longest there that there has to be some sort of doping in the NHL. The incentive is simply too big. Imagine being a 19 year old draftee faced with the prospects of either making the team on steroids, fulfilling your dream and becoming a rich man, or staying clean and not making it. It's got to be unbelievably hard to resist that temptation and I doubt many are able to.

Posted by: binnenreim | May 27, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

First off, I wouldn't believe a perp like that. Second, "ballplayers on both clubs?" The Capitals aren't "ball players". Personally, I think the guy is full of sh-t. Nobody on defense grew...they sure as hell didn't play better defensively or hit more. The only forward that even seems like he'd be on something is Ovechkin, and he's been playing with this kind of passion and wreckless abandon since he got into this league, and he doesn't show any signs of use, so this guy is full of sh-t. Now, selling to the Nats, fine... who knows about baseball. They don't do that stuff in hockey.

Posted by: fbutler1 | May 27, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Crosby must have taken steroids, because when women take steroids they oftentimes grow a bit of weak facial hair

Posted by: GoUnited | May 27, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

They must be the worst steroids on the market.

Posted by: oo7 | May 27, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

We want our $$$ back!!!!

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | May 27, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

to _stevo: As usual atybat put his opinion out as fact. I posted this a few threads ago.

I've never taken a look at the NHL policy in regards to steroids use because it really never has appeared to be a problem. I have attached the link to the story that produced the paragraphs in quotes:

"Under hockey's new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), the NHL and its Players' Association have established a Performance Enhancing Substances Program.

Under it, NHL players are subject to up to two, no-notice, random tests during the NHL season for the performance enhancing drugs designated on the Word Anti-Doping Agency out-of-competition list.

Positive tests will result in the follow punishment:

20 game suspension for the first offence;
60 game suspension for the second offence;
permanent suspension for the third offence."

Of course if any players are "named" by this dealer that does not mean an automatic first offence because they are simply being accused and did not pop positive on a test, random or otherwise. Since the policy is "up to two" I do not know if one can assume that a player will be tested once at the very least every season.

Hopefully our boys have been flying straight and this is just a steroid dealer looking for a book deal. The time table in which this guy supposedly supplied Caps players will be intereseting because many of our stars participated in the World Championships after being eliminated from the 1st round of the playoffs last year and had to be tested to participate.

Here's the link to the entire story on the policy. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20050928/NHL_doping_050928?s_name=&no_ads=


Posted by: fanohock1 | May 27, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

The Nats need to get their money back from this guy!

Either that or we all owe Barry Bonds a huge apology.

Posted by: noslok | May 27, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Did anybody watch the video? The people arrested, especially the woman, are the ones who look like steroid-addled freaks.

Let's see if any actual evidence emerges before we get hysterical about it. Maybe this will serve as a warning shot to the NHL and players to get their acts cleaned up.

Posted by: yosemite_sam | May 27, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

@fbutler1
Said: They don't do that stuff in hockey.

Slow down Buddy. What planet do you live on? Steroids is in every sports. Lots of injuries in hockey and the guys have no time to heal, especially in the play-offs. They are under enormous pressure to perform. Ever heard of John Kordic? He may have been the most extreme case but it's probably out there. Only a few ever got caught, but it's not a sign that steroids does not happen in hockey; it's a reflexion of the NHL policy or lack of...

Posted by: atybat | May 27, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Clearly, fraud should be added to the charges, since whatever he sold to the Nats' players could not be described as performance-enhancing.

Posted by: BSDetector | May 27, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

@fanhock1

You are stating the policy. I am saying it is not being applied and enforced the way it is stated. Now, your statement about World Championship is quite correct and I think you are more likely to get caught during an International event. This being said, with the proper supervision, you can clean out your system in time if you know when you will be tested.
Again, I will not speculate and I hope that no Caps players are involved.

Posted by: atybat | May 27, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

@atybat: The Caps players that headed over after being eliminated last season played in their first World Championship game on May 3rd, which means they were tested NLT May 3rd, probably before. Anyhow they were eliminted on April 22nd, and admitted they were shocked and expected to win game 7. With that being said they wouldn't have starting to "clean out" their system until 23 April. That would have only left 11 days. I seriously doubt any of them would have chanced popping positive on an IIHF test and not only shame themselves, but their country too.

Now, if this guy points fingers and states they have only been customers since, let's say, last summer, then the NHL test system would have had to catch them. I am not naive and refuse to believe that hockey players, namely my Capitals, are immune to the enhancers that every other sport has a history of using, what I am saying is that there have been times the boys were tested over the last calendar year. I further believe that if the players like Ovechkin, Semin, or any other European were to resort to using them they would not trust a North American, they would seek help from home. That is just my opinion.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 27, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

One player that obviously did not take or use any steroids is Schultz

Posted by: caps28fan | May 27, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I think the majority find it puzzling that his base of operations is in Florida but his accusations are for teams in DC. Last I checked, there were hockey teams, baseball teams, and football teams in Florida. Either he's a horrible businessman or his operations went through an expansion during this dismal economy.

It's crap. While we're at it, let's sue the moron for defamation of character.

Pet Peeve of the Morning: "Fans" who are quick to give an idiot in Florida even an ounce of credibility for possibly selling steroids to our Capitals hockey team.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | May 27, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Greenie sure fell of the face of the earth in the playoffs. Maybe feared getting caught?

Posted by: hockeypuck1 | May 27, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

@ATYBAT

John Kordic?? That dude died from an array of frightening things, speedballs, mixed with crack cocaine and quarts of hard liquor.....steroids not an issue.

Posted by: bhound69 | May 27, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Don't international games (i.e. Olympics) test for banned substances? Didn't Green and Ovie and Semin and most everyone on a national team play in an international event? If so, no one tested positive so I don't see anythign to worry about.

Posted by: Shiba-fussa | May 27, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Or maybe having a torn up shoulder? Could that have something to do with it? I guarantee this guy "names" 1-3 of our top players just to get his 15 minutes

Posted by: superpaqman | May 27, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

not that I actually believe this stuff but a quickie primer on how most athletes use steroids these days: to shorten their recovery time. Its not the bulk up to "Ah-nold" levels, or even Barry Bonds-esque sizes. That's why when the MLB testing went into effect, it was catching all these no-name pitchers; guys who felt this was their one last chance at impressing the big club and making their dream. They were trying to prevent breakdowns that would end any hope of making or staying with the "big club." And my honest guess is that Manny Rameriez was likely doing the same. He's getting older, the baseball season is a grind and then some; a few 'roids or similar drugs makes it a bit easier to play 100% every day. not that I in any way think what they did was ok, but that's the "logic" behind it.

Over at Puck Daddy (and I really should know better than to read the comments there; do they require that you hand oevr your common sense upon registration?), the stuff is almost laughable. Backstrom "bulked up from being a real skinny guy"? Nicky never even looked skinny, and whatever bulk he had was a direct result of too mnay Swedish meatballs. They threw the same accusation at Semin, which is funny because the last time I saw him in street clothes just before the playoffs started, he looked like he weighed maybe 150 pounds soaking wet. "Bulked up" he is not. But again, its these "oh, he bulked up so he must be on steroids" accusations that tell me people haven't a clue has to why professional athletes used these drugs.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

hockeypuck1, that's absurd. A seperated shoulder isn't something I've had the misfortune of dealign with, btu several people here have and every one of them said it was absolutely nightmarish. Walking caused them pain, never mind trying to skate and hit people and shoot the puck.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

So if he sold to the Nats... and they're still last place in the Division with no hope of making the postseason for the foreseeable future... I guess steroids don't matter that much afterall? I guess steroids only create an 'unfair' advantage if the players taking the drug also have some skill to go with it.

Posted by: SUMB44 | May 27, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

If Semin did do it , I hope he paid in Rubles. No trail.

Posted by: bhound69 | May 27, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Everyone knows that most of the steroid dealings are down through mail and courriers so, completely irrelevant where the guy lives...

Posted by: atybat | May 27, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

the Nationals problem is the bullpen, and the fact that half of those guys are cast-offs, the other half are headcases, and one of them is a cast-off headcase. Their strating pitching is ok (certainly better than "starting pitching by committee and blind luck" that the orioles are attempting) and the top half of their batting line up is positively dangerous.

As you might be able to tell, I'm sick to death of reading all over the internet "ha ha ha, the Nationals SUX! They should ask for their money back if they actually used 'roids! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!" Way to show that you know absolutely nothing about that team at all. I think this sign is appropriate for them:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/RedBirdie/Welcome_To_Fail.jpg

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

When it's come up in the past, most people have said it would only be an advantage for enforcers in the NHL. See...

NHL unveils new drug testing policy [2005]
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20050928/NHL_doping_050928?s_name=&no_ads=
"David (Moose) Morissette was one of those enforcers who is now warning young players that steroids and stimulants helped to end his hockey career.

Morissette said he began taking steroids in 1991, shortly after he was drafted by the Washington Capitals. He also used stimulants such as the cold remedy Sudafed and a caffeine-and-ephedrine mix called Ripped Fuel while playing junior hockey.

He hopes to warn young players off performance-enhancing drugs through his book, Memoires d'Un Dur a Cuire (Memoires of an Enforcer)."

Posted by: blackjack65 | May 27, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Steinberg completely -- why would the Tampa police even mention the Caps and Nats names if it is still under investigation? Of course, all of us on here are forgetting... Theodore did test positive for a masking agent a few years ago. There are several former Caps playing for TB. Really, would it surprise anyone if he named Theodore (given his past) and named a few former Caps who are now on the Lightning? (NOT Kolzig.)

Posted by: Matt23185 | May 27, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Theo tested positive for propecia. Yes, it can be used as a masking agent. Lots of drugs can be used as masking agents. Odds are, he was taking up because he's vain as all get out and he's losing his hair. Cold drugs can and do turn up as positive for stimulants. And its absolutely true that eating poppy seed bagels or muffins will cause you to test positive for opium.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Back to the previous story: Ottawa Sun's Don Brennan has it exactly right about Crosby vs. Ovie. Crosby is a great player but what absolutely flat, no-personality presence he has. Poor kid, other than whining, he comes across like a robot.

Would Kozlov leaving allow us to get one of these gritty, experienced defenders everyone is clamoring for? What are the implications? Personally, I would want Feds to stay if I had to choose between the two.

Posted by: caraveli | May 27, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

The Bears and the Stingrays in the playoffs...Feds and Kozzie maybe going to the KHL...steroid accusations...

Who said the offseason was going to be boring??

Posted by: tess2201 | May 27, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

From the NHLPA:

TESTING PROCEDURES:

Following their orientation session on the program, every NHL player will be subject to up to three "no-notice" tests from the start of training camp through the end of the Regular Season. Testing is conducted as follows: 10 teams will be subject to one no-notice test, 10 teams will be subject to two no-notice tests and 10 teams will be subject to three no-notice tests.

SAMPLE-COLLECTING AUTHORITY: Comprehensive Drug Testing, Long Beach California

TEST LABORATORY: INRS-Institute Armand-Frappier, Laval Quebec

DISCIPLINARY PENALTIES:

Positive tests for performance-enhancing substances will result in mandatory discipline as follows:
For the first positive test, a 20-game suspension without pay and mandatory referral to the NHLPA/NHL Substance Abuse & Behavioral Health Program for evaluation, education and possible treatment.

For the second positive test, a 60-game suspension without pay.

For the third positive test, a permanent suspension. A player receiving a third positive test and a permanent suspension from play in the League will, however, be eligible to apply for reinstatement after two years. The application would be considered by the Committee.

Posted by: Greg S. | May 27, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but I don't believe for one sec. that the NATS are on steriods. I mean, they suck so bad I can't even give their tickets away.

Posted by: smckaho420 | May 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

@redbird

Where's your sense of humor today?? The Nats DO suck....so what. Only one way to go, right? It's funny that the team destined for 105 losses this year gets implicated in a steroid scandel....Red, no more getting sick to death.

Posted by: bhound69 | May 27, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

smckaho420, this is for you:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/RedBirdie/Welcome_To_Fail.jpg

did you READ my previous post? I know nothing about the use or non-use of steroids or anything else with the Nationals, but have you seen that disaster of a bullpen? The inability of the relievers to keep the game close or even hold onto a lead doesn't negate the successes of the position players, and even the half-decent success of the starting rotation. Adam Dunn could hit a gran slam in every game, and the bull pen would still blow it 8 times out of 10.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

no way thomas could have sold to the nats, steroids are supposd to ENHANCE athletic performance.

Posted by: surly_w | May 27, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Brashear talking about it on WJFK right now.

Posted by: Zornado | May 27, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

To my knowledge, only Sean Hill has been found to have used steroids. That was in 2007.

Posted by: Greg S. | May 27, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

bhound69, I'm sorry. My father does this sort of stuff for a living (drug testing, that is) and we've been discussing it all morning. I get easily irritated when people run around flapping off about stuff they clearly don't have a good understanding of. Just because the nats' bullpen blows games more than Bettman blows Crosby doesn't mean, hypothetically, that other plays couldn't be using.

Believe me, I know all about embracing suckitude. I was in Detroit for the 2003 epically awful but not quite historically pathetic 119 losses for the Tigers. And just like I said for the Caps after the lockout, when they too brought new meaning to "painful to watch," I said give them a few years and they'll be dangerously good. The nats have the potential, should they get this bullpen thing figured out (and get rid of the Lerners....)

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Zornado, what's he saying?

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The IOC uses WADA protocols for testing; guys who are potentially going to be on the Olympics are notified by their federation(s) about this. Jose Theodore famously tested positive in 2005 for a banned substance (later to be found to be the Propecia he was using, which had a chemical that was on the banned list). As such, guys on the Olympic team can't take common OTC cold medication as it will trigger a positive test. By that, anyone being considered for a spot on the Olympic team (FWIW, Green is all but a lock for Team Canada) has already been given instructions by their national federation about IOC guidelines (and how they differ from NHL guidelines). If guys like Ovechkin and Green get colds/flu next year, they will have to be very careful about what they take.

Testing...the IOC and WADA are pushing for so-called Athlete Passports and year-round, no-notice testing (where the athlete must notify WADA of their whereabouts year-round). The NHL/IIHF are against this. Other team sports are similarly opposed to these protocols and policies.

Issue at hand...steroids would likely not have any significant benefit to a hockey player (you "could" however make the case that HGH/EPO would benefit a hockey player in terms of aiding recovery)...if media reports are simply calling this stuff "steroids" rather than a detailed list of what drug(s) he has, then I'll stay tuned. If it's your garden variety of anabolic steroids then this guy is probably blowing smoke and/or trying to get out of jail time in a bad way (and if he is lying, I hope Washington and the NHL sue him for defamation of character). Muscle mass would not be of benefit.

Creatine is a naturally occurring substance found in red meat.

Posted by: jcurrin | May 27, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

This whole thing just reeks. FL dealer only implicated DC teams while also saying he's the biggest dealer? That makes no sense business-wise. I'm not going to say that hockey players are little angels but I trust our boys. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but there is no way I believe any of them did anything wrong. It's not like we have a team of angry hulks, quite the opposite. I mean seriously considering how passive (not meant as a dig, but we didn't play that strong/aggressive) we got in the playoffs and how the injuries really affected them (wouldn't the steroids counteract that?) I just don't see it.

Countdown to Pens/Rags trolls coming on here dogging on Ovie and Co.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 27, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Short interview pulled together on short notice. Said he hadn't heard the story but was pretty vague overall...said he didn't know anybody in the locker room doing it but that it wouldn't be in their best interest. Lot of canned responses...didn't sound authoritative one way or another, but I'm just hoping that's due to him not knowing about the story.

Posted by: Zornado | May 27, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Again from the NHLPA...

Good stuff, jcurrin.

PROHIBITED SUBSTANCES LIST:

The Committee agreed on the performance-enhancing substances list maintained by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) for out-of-competition testing. Changes to the items included on the Prohibited List can only be as negotiated by the NHL and NHLPA.

Posted by: Greg S. | May 27, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

some sports already have the year round no notice testing. A friend of mine nearly got snared in this, in fact, as she took off spur of the moment for a beach weekend. Drug tester showed up at her house and she wasn't there. Big problems.

Sudafed is no longer on the banned substance list, but that is what caused a Romanain gymnast to lose her olympic title in 2000.

I really suggest reading Steroid Nation if you want to know more about steroid use in the US. Its well researched and witten.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

This is the blogosphere so let me toss this one out... If Gonchar was so hurt after the Ovechkin hit, if Gonchar was on his deathbed, if Gonchar's playoffs were over, how did he heal so fast? HGH doesn't help someone heal... does it? I'm just wondering outloud. The Pittsburgh Steelers of the 70s... I mean no team from Pittsburgh has ever been associated with drug dealers, has it? I'm just saying...

Posted by: Matt23185 | May 27, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Brashear also talked about how they are tested two to three times a season, totally random. Said nobody has been caught, but he didn't speak to what the NHL looks for. Again, kinda vague.

Posted by: Zornado | May 27, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Breaking News.....Sidney Crosby allegedly bought beard growth hormones prior to the playoffs, but has never taken them...

Posted by: SA-Town | May 27, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

By the way, there are no testing from the NHL in the off-season...just a clarification. Also, Sean Hill was not the only player caught. John Kordic was fired by the Nordiques in 1992 after testing positive. I also remember Bryan Berard testing positive a few years back.
@jcurrin great post. Creatine can also be found in many types of fish such as salmon.

Posted by: atybat | May 27, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

honestly, if anyone were to get caught for anything, I'd place my money one cortizone. Which is legal, but only if its declared and with prior approval. A surprising numebr of athletes have been caught with positive setroid tests because they didn't get the approval before getting a shot. And hockey plays are walking cortizone shots come playoff time.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Took me awhile to find it, but I remembered reading this in a Caps article recently (it's Mike Green talking to the reporter)....

"A Capitals security representative comes up and tells him it's time for a random drug test; all of the players are being tested that day. "See, I'm really not that exciting! A guy will watch me pee. Then I'm going to have lunch. Like I said, I don't do much."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/artsandliving/magazine/features/2009/fitness/green.html

Posted by: tess2201 | May 27, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to hear Cindy didn't inhale...

From what NHLPA sez, they conform to the WADA standard.

I'd imagine that none of NHL players would use them considering the implications of a single use. Loss of pay for 20 games for first time use, being prohibited from international events, etc. It would be economic suicide.

Posted by: Greg S. | May 27, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Does no one here realize where Federov lives....Tampa so not such a far reach.

Posted by: kevinb4760 | May 27, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Greg..."I'm glad to hear Cindy didn't inhale..." Wow bring Sydney into this what a low class move...but you know what he is still playing and not golfing.

Posted by: kevinb4760 | May 27, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Fedorov (by the way, that would not be Federov) has a house in Miami, but spends the majority of his off season in Detroit. So, nice try, but as usual when it comes to Penguins fans trolling blogs, FAIL.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

If he was selling them to the nationals as well he must not have had the good ones

Posted by: mgreenway | May 27, 2009 8:46 AM

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! I was just thinking the same thing! Those were some TERRIBLE steriods if he was selling them to the Nats....and don't let me hear Hanrahan was taking any. If he was, it was was making his hands smaller...haha!

Posted by: cbmuzik | May 27, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Back under your bridge, troll!

Posted by: snakegriffin | May 27, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Tee shots fly further when you're on anabolic steroids. Just sayin'

;o)

Posted by: PensFan98 | May 27, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone doubt this guy's story. I don't. It's not unusual for a team to have one supplier. Maybe this guy happens to be the Nats/Caps, and doesn't have a line to other franchises (yet). Aaah, the modern athlete.

Posted by: shoveit | May 27, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

pens Fans, are your collective powers of trolling needed to go harass Chief at A2Y or something? You're still here? really? What, was Bubba Banjo not exciting enough for you? Are you afraid Chief flay you alive? I mean, really now, its time to move one. Continue on your merry way unless you plan on adding something of substance to the conversation. And, no, faux-snark comments about hitting golf balls does not count as substantive conversation.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 27, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The last time I checked Hockey doesn't have a ban on steroids. Even if they do, I have yet to see one caps player that looks huge from steroid growth. These scum are always trying to put blame on someone else. Nice try scumbag but I think you are a liar. I hope you get 10 years. Only a complete loser would try to hurt other people. DON'T DO THE CRIME IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME. Your butt will hurt in jail.

Posted by: daveink44 | May 27, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Kevinb.....thats cool that you can come here are bash washington because thats the first team that has been pointed out. But just like in baseball or football, if it does come out that this is true dont be surprised if it comes out that this same thing is occurring on other teams in the NHL. Maybe not all players, but i bet a few on your precious Pens might show up on the list as well

Posted by: CapsFan44 | May 27, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

and man wouldn't it look good of you guys to go to the finals 2 years in row with a tainted roster and still get knocked out by detroit.

Posted by: CapsFan44 | May 27, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't see Brash using, Come on, Grit and determination run in his family! Just look to his Great Uncle, Carl..

I am sure there are people using in all sports, but probably more to cure the pains of injury, not bulking up.

I hope this come out good for us and the Caps.

Posted by: hbcapsfan | May 27, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Redbirdie this is for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

Please either 1)Get a life or 2)Get a visectemy, so you can not spread your ignorance/self-pity to the rest of the gene pool. Please. Also, what kind of a loser argues with his father over this sort of thing? Oh yeah, that's right, a pathetic one.

Posted by: smckaho420 | May 27, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't it an idiot Pens fan that was dismissing us as not a rivalry and yet here they are, like a bunch of flies on crap, on our message boards again, serving as an echo to that moron in Tampa?

Sorry, Pens fans, it still s*cks to be you. You're dismissed.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | May 27, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

@smckaho420: 1) Learn to spell. 2) Get a life that doesn't involve going to parties or message boards you're not welcome at. 3) Get your tubes tied or keep your legs crossed. Sorry, even Paris Hilton couldn't pull it off. What made you think you could?!!

Redbirdie, carry on! =)

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | May 27, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing is, us Caps fans are still rocking the Red... get your brooms out ladies and gentlemen... Wings in 4.

Posted by: _828 | May 27, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Does he think by saying he sold to the Caps and Nats that he might get a book deal or even time off for snitching?

It is funny that he mentioned 2 teams from the area, which is now getting the rumbling started through both leagues.

I think he's a bitter, Marlins and Panthers fan.........

Posted by: ENJOYA | May 27, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Test - every single Cap !

Any Cap caught - should serve a 2 year suspension - with no appeals.

I was extremely happy that the Wizards lost in the lottery.

The top 5 picks will be - in this order

1 - Tyler Hansbrough - North Carolina
2 - Danny Green - North Carolina
3 - Ty Lawson - North Carolina
4 - Blake Griffin - Oklahoma
5 - Wayne Ellington - North Carolina

Maryland basketball will finish with a 15-16 record this upcoming season
- No NCAA Bid
- No NIT Bid

Maryland football will finish with a 2 - 10 record.

Carolina Blue - Carolina WHITE - Go Tar Heels - Let's go Tar Heels - NCAA Champs


Posted by: hclark1 | May 27, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Between the Idea and the Reality Lies the Shadow, For Thine Is The Kingdom...

Let's see some hard evidence, aside from lip service, before he gets shot, I mean charged....

Posted by: frak | May 27, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: suesue8709 | May 28, 2009 5:08 AM | Report abuse

@ Fro: Speak for yourself. If one of those guys were proven to be using steroids (or steriods :) ) I'd cut up the relevant player's sweater and mail it back to him.

Posted by: qwertyqwerty1 | May 28, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

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