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Posted at 1:20 PM ET, 02/27/2011

Leonsis on the trade deadline: 'I am hopeful we can add some vets'

By Katie Carrera

While the Capitals made several roster moves Saturday, including acquiring Marco Sturm off waivers, the possibility remains that more new players will join the team before Monday's 3 p.m. trade deadline.

General Manager George McPhee always plays his cards close to the vest, but if comments from Capitals majority owner Ted Leonsis on his blog Sunday are any indication, don't be surprised if the team does make a trade or two prior to the deadline.

From Ted's Take:

One team makes a big trade and then losses a bunch of games immediately afterwards. Was that us with our mid season trade or another team right now? You decide. It isn't as easy in real life as it looks on paper.
We would like to add jump and difference to our team. Every team in playoff contention wants to. What we don't want to do is dramatically change our team with a rental in exchange for several talented young assets. That isn't what we believe in. Change can be good and it can be bad.
I am hopeful we can add some vets to help us improve in the short term. That is our challenge. Wish us luck.

Check out the full post here.

By Katie Carrera  | February 27, 2011; 1:20 PM ET
Categories:  Ted Leonsis  
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Comments

Every team can get better - at least on paper - by adding better players (with better statistics, more hits etc.)
... however to find the right mix for a successful team isn't that easy ...

Posted by: FCKoeln1 | February 27, 2011 11:25 AM |

That's why we need to find soft players who will kiss BB and GMGM's ass at every opportunity. We can't afford to compromise locker room chemistry this late in the season. I mean, just ask Brooks. He's the de facto captain anyway, and I'm sure he'll confirm how great the coach and management are.

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 27, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Then why didnt you trade a 7th for Kovolev if you wanted some veteran presence...just my opinion

Posted by: Wagnerchristopher | February 27, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The move of sending Ford back down to Hershey today has me thinking that 1) Varly wasn't really hurt and is part of a trade package with a vet goalie coming back...or 2) they are going to claim Conklin off waivers.

I tend to think that Varly may be on his way out however...

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

@ PhilR

That's what I thought yesterday. The entire thing with MP going back to Hershey but not sched to play and Varly w/mystery injury. Just coincidence?????

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Ted is hopeful. I am hopeful. We are all hopeful. Let's stop hoping and start doing.

25.5 hours to go in what should be the biggest trade deadline in team history.

We have been shut out nine times. Our team chemistry sucks. Fix it Georgie.

Let me add, I want the Caps to win the cup more than anything. That being said, it is easy to see why so many have become so frustrated.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse


2/4/2010

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how easily folks forget:

500 career regular-season points for Alex Ovechkin.

5 points tonight for Nicklas Backstrom.

20 goals this season by Mike Knuble.

3.86 goals per game averaged by the Caps, most in the league.

The Caps' 1st place in the NHL standings.

12 consecutive victories, most in franchise history.


Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

trade Schultz. He was our worst Dman last night. How many times did an Isles forward easily cut around him? How many times did he make his new patented blind clear on his backhand only to get it intercepted easily for a scoring chance against.

Add a vet. Cut a young bum.. Sarge is our biggest liability on D.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 27, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Cayugalaker,

Thing is, I can't understand why any team would want MP at this point after seeing his performance this season. He is just too small to play at this level and his inconsistancy is simply mind blowing.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I am hopeful we can add some vets to help us improve in the short term
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hey ted, here's an idea. How about you add some guys who can actually play for us PAST our impending 1st round exit. There's a thought.

Why can't the Caps wrap their minds around the concept of getting more than just a rental player.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 27, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

@ vermontcaps

from previous thread......just didn't want you to miss this.

@ vermontcaps

Holy crap, my wife went to Castleton State. She's from Rutland. But, I'm just sayin'......fighting isn't always about kickin' somebody's ass. Messages have to be sent and we finally have somebody, other than the DJK's and Brashear's of the world to do it. Erskine, Brad, Hendricks, maybe even Hannan. That's just another thing that makes me crazy about Schultz. 6'7" and seems like he'd feel more at home netting butterflies for cryin' out loud!!

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 1:27 PM

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse


I mean, just ask Brooks. He's the de facto captain anyway, and I'm sure he'll confirm how great the coach and management are.


Posted by: vermontcaps | February 27, 2011 1:27 PM |

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it's not that folks would disagree with you, it's how you post dude.

if you get rid of your anger, your points would be more clear and meaningful.

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

@PhilR

The Varly injury is somewhat mysterious. How do you get hurt in a morning skate? But it's been known to happen.

Would not surprise me if Perreault is traded. I like the guy even if he's inconsistent for productivity. (Think he's smaller than his listed size, by my guess.)

I know that goalies are the main thing we have but with Holtby on the shelf "week-to-week" for Hershey, I'm a bit leery of trading Varly at the moment. Ford's adequate at best in the AHL, so I am not comfortable with him as our backup, by any stretch of the imagination.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | February 27, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75,

That is why I think there may be a vet goalie coming back our way from somewhere.....certainly not Vokoun though, way out of the Caps paygrade at this point.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

PhilR

MP makes no money and has terrific hockey skills and senses. He's on last year of entry level. He just turned 23 in Jan, he's a centerman. He'll grow and get stronger. He's got speed. Most teams would probably use him out front on the PK. (not us of course, that's why we have very few shorties) great hands, tremendous upside and potential for the money. That's my take. I love the guy and would hate to see him go.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Lets all be positive until after the deadline.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Cayugalaker,

You see much more in the guy than I do for sure. I just never see him being strong enough to stay on the puck, he gets bounced around like a super ball out there. Just don't think he has the frame to put on that much weight/muscle. I see him as an AHL lifer, agree to disagree I guess.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

OK, I'd rather have Chris Phillips than Willie Mitchell. See........I'm positive.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Lets all be positive until after the deadline.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Fat chance. Plenty of folks already are convinced our big trade tomorrow was an awful step.

Posted by: Justafan | February 27, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse


with perreault in hershey and varlamov suddenly injured, i'm smelling a deal in the works. anyone else ?

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

PhilR

Ya, we have MaJo, Nicky, BGordo, Laich, Steckel and Perreault but we have no centers. It's a tough spot for all concerned. If he had the 4th line center spot and special teams duties he'd be fine. This was a lot of pressure for him. Maybe he'd be better off somewhere else for his sake. There's no way we can use him right. And there's no way he can reach his potential here. I've met him at so many AHL games. Real nice kid. I've just got a soft spot in my heart/head for him.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

@ hessone

Welcome to the party.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@cayuagalaker

too funny, Rutland is where I've been residing the past 15 years. Tell her I'm big on Gill's grinders and Ramuntos pizza, and I live by the golf course

@hessone

First, thanks for not swearing at me in some foreign language. I'm not computer savvy enough to know how to translate, and I don't care enough to figure how. Second, what you call anger I call passion. I certainly could take another tone and voice if I pleased, but what fun would that be??

Y'all should feel priviliged that posters like cstanton, hunterforcoach, and tmac2yao give you the opportunity to examine your true thoughts about the team specifically, and hockey in general.

We all want the Caps to win the Cup, hessone, so revel in my "anger" or challenge me when you see fit. I can only imagine how I'm going to be feeling 24 hours from now, so get ready....

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 27, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Anybody wish we had the $3m we gave Poti for the next two years back?

Looking back, this is really a fireable offense.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse


Lets all be positive until after the deadline.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 1:45 PM |

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frame these words and hang them on the wall.

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

justafan

That was a good one. The draft pick for 2011 is already a mistake and the one in 2012 because GMGM is making the pick. Some like to always rag on Caps, coaches, and management. Oh and Ted for being the anti Snyder and not trading every single player and firing everyone after a loss. Or trading every single draft pick he can trade. I can be very critcal also but sometimes it is exhausting being so negative about everything. Lets all be honest The Caps are the only professional sports team worth a darn in all of DC. I still am not a fan of BB and probably will never be one.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

@ vermontcaps

Funny stuff. I'll have to look you up this summer. We don't go over there from Thanksgiving to Easter. You know why. OK gotta go watch some of the Yanks minor leaguers beat up on the Phillies scrubs.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

i'm on the fence for the trade deadline. i'm excited to see what may happen but nervous at the same time. i'm curious to see how it will possibly effect team chemistry. i think i've been frustrated this year by the lack of consistency. the team has shown the hard work it takes to win and then it will disappear for a while.

i wonder if there is a "divided locker room" that many have talked about. what is it that makes these guys seem to not want to play for each other or as a team.

have they stopped listening to BB? Do they not get along? What is it? I wish I was a fly on the wall in the locker room just to know what's really going on.

all in all, i want the best for this team and i want them to live up to their potential. i hope the right pieces can come in and make a difference for this year.

Posted by: natresgroup | February 27, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse


First, thanks for not swearing at me in some foreign language.

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 27, 2011 1:58 PM |

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if i cuss at you it will be in english

the foreign language is just for fun. try it yourself with this link below.

Иметь хороший день мой друг

see what ovie has to say

http://translate.google.com/#en|ru|Have%20a%20nice%20day%20my%20friend

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Make moves, go deep. Do it.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | February 27, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The idea of DJK at Hershey must be very frightening to some AHLers, eh?

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

The idea of DJK at Hershey must be very frightening to some AHLers, eh?

Posted by: Cayugalaker |

There are tons and tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of enforcers in the AHL. Some of them are just spectacles, they don't have the hockey skill and sense to really be at the AHL level, let alone the NHL level.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | February 27, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse


The idea of DJK at Hershey must be very frightening to some AHLers, eh?

Posted by: Cayugalaker

i think the caps have enough grit without djk. this is a roster spot i think the caps are wasting.


Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Sturm could be huge if his knees are right. Speed an shot.

Sturm-Johanssen-chimera. Would be one fast 3rd line.

Posted by: bricucci | February 27, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

We would like to add jump and difference to our team. Every team in playoff contention wants to. What we don't want to do is dramatically change our team with a rental in exchange for several talented young assets. That isn't what we believe in. Change can be good and it can be bad.
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Translation: As long as there are 18,000 Kool-aid drinkers filling up my arena every night, I'd have to be a total idiot to risk what I have going, trust GMGM to make the right moves and go for the Cup. I'm gonna keep this going as long as I can without making risky moves that may or may not get us the Cup.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is so worried about the players we might bring in..It wont matter unless the players we have play better...We still dont score "playoff type" goals..So if i were king of the caps..first, strip the "C" of ovie's jersey(just might piss him off), second, instead of line switching start benching players who dont go to the net and third, BB instead of team needs to play better call them out by name...
Now im not opposed to upgrading so lets get a net crashing killer AND TRADE SEMIN....

Go caps

Posted by: cptjack70 | February 27, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

if i cuss at you it will be in english
--------------hessone----------------

Fair enough :)

@cayuagalaker

By all means let me know...if you golf or fish, even better! If you're ever up during the season, you know where you can catch the games....

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 27, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

You don't want to dramatically change the team by giving up young players?

So basically were going to get another Scott Walker? Great!

Have to give up something to get something Ted.

Posted by: digster1013 | February 27, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse


By all means let me know...if you golf or fish, even better! If you're ever up during the season, you know where you can catch the games....

Posted by: vermontcaps |

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not to intrude, but what kind of fishing are we talking ?

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

trade Schultz. He was our worst Dman last night. How many times did an Isles forward easily cut around him? How many times did he make his new patented blind clear on his backhand only to get it intercepted easily for a scoring chance against.

Add a vet. Cut a young bum.. Sarge is our biggest liability on D.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 27, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Thinking outside the box - if this were true and Sarge plays as "the worse Dman most nights" - what value to any other team would there be in acquiring him?

Its time some of you start to think of cutting the umbellica cord with good players/assets that other teams actually want

- or there is nothing wrong with Schultz's play (except for an off game here or there) and decisions have to be made with a little less emotion sometimes.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I would love to see Semin and Schultz for Statsny and Liles, throw in a draft pick and prospect if need be.....

The you have:

Ovie/Backs/Fehr
Sturm/Statsny/Knuble
Laich/MaJo/Hendricks
Beagle/Steckle/Brads

Green/Hannan
Carlson/Alzner
Liles/Erskine

Trade BGordon and Chimera for a #6-7 dman and this team would be looking pretty good IMO.

I know, I'm dreaming as I can't see GMGM pulling the trigger on a deal like that.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

i think the caps have enough grit without djk. this is a roster spot i think the caps are wasting.


Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Matt Hendricks and Matt Bradley epitomize the role of energy players that can play the game and stir the pot physically. The NHL really is going this way because must justify paying the guy over $500K a year and the speed of the game just requires guys with skill.

Too bad we gave away Stefan Della Rovere to acquire DJ King.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

As long as there are 18,000 Kool-aid drinkers filling up my arena every night, I'd have to be a total idiot to risk what I have going, trust GMGM to make the right moves and go for the Cup. I'm gonna keep this going as long as I can without making risky moves that may or may not get us the Cup.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 2:31 PM

joe:
as fans - we don't have to worry about the "business" side of hockey - ted does. it is his money on the line, so i won't take exception with how he manages his team. the only viable way to keep the team competitive and making sure they stay in DC - is by not mortgaging the future. right or wrong - that is the message i got.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

trade Schultz. He was our worst Dman last night. How many times did an Isles forward easily cut around him? How many times did he make his new patented blind clear on his backhand only to get it intercepted easily for a scoring chance against.

Add a vet. Cut a young bum.. Sarge is our biggest liability on D.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 27, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

He needs a new nickname also. Sarge doesn't seem to fit his style of play.

Posted by: StanleyCap | February 27, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Varly and Semin to Fla for Voukon, Weiss and Dvorak.

Posted by: diner99 | February 27, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

If you are going to trade I think Columbus would be a good trading partner. I would guess the teams we are talking with and I know it is obvious is Panthers, Kings, Blue Jackets, Oilers and the Sens. Maybe the Blues also.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

diner99,

Would not fit under the cap....

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Volkun is very expensive

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

We need chemistry. our team doesnt have much in my opinion. our only defense line with good chemistry is carly and alzner because they have been on the same line since they were playing in hershey together. IDK y we got scott hannon, he hasnt done much. i dont agree with sending perry back down to hershey, he is a good player. we need young talent that has a vetern mind if you get what im saying. we need a young skillful player who knows the league and how it works. i hope we get something helpful out of a trade and not do something stupid that will potentially hurt us. i hope GM does the right thing here. LETS GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: geary88 | February 27, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Varly and Semin to Fla for Voukon, Weiss and Dvorak.

Posted by: diner99 | February 27, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

That idea is not far from reality -

Florida wants an exciting player and sending 2 Russians together actually insures the Panthers that a player will go back to Russia if he has a friend to assimilate with.

The missing Varly on Saturday really makes me think they might be packaging him perhaps to get something big.

Its only speculation.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

the only viable way to keep the team competitive and making sure they stay in DC - is by not mortgaging the future. right or wrong - that is the message i got.
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Cool, so let's not even pretend that this city is somehow a "hockey town" now anymore.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

@ StanleyCap

More like Seargent Schulz (Hogan's Heroes)

@ kiner99

No way!!! First of all, it's within the division and secondly, Fla makes out on that deal. They'd take that in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the Blue Jackets are sellers right now or are they staying pat.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Geary..i agree with some of these other guys.MP is being dangled as bait and thats why hes in hershey..if think about with talent like MP, semin and varly being rumored as avail the caps should be able to get whatever they want..

Posted by: cptjack70 | February 27, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Why the hell are you people obsessed with Statsny?

Posted by: richmondphil2 | February 27, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

No way!!! First of all, it's within the division and secondly, Fla makes out on that deal. They'd take that in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

It wont affect us this year or next. They still would have to sign Semin - good luck with that in 2012.

Anything that makes florida better actually helps the Caps right now because they play Atlanta, Tampa and Carolina 18 times - rather not have a doormat in the division.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Deadline deals that led to Stanley Cups


Pittsburgh Penguins -- March 4, 1991
Pittsburgh Penguins obtain C Ron Francis, D Grant Jennings and D Ulf Samuelsson from Hartford for C John Cullen, RW Jeff Parker and D Zarley Zalapski

After the trade, Francis tied for a team-leading four game-winning goals and tied for fifth in scoring with 17 points (7-10) during the 1991 Stanley Cup playoffs as the Penguins won their first Cup. He played in Pittsburgh for eight seasons, posting 100 points in 97 postseason games.
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This is the type of a move that a team that actually wants to win the Cup makes, NOT a team that just says they want to win the Cup... a pretender like Ted's Caps

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

joe:
as fans - we don't have to worry about the "business" side of hockey - ted does. it is his money on the line, so i won't take exception with how he manages his team. the only viable way to keep the team competitive and making sure they stay in DC - is by not mortgaging the future. right or wrong - that is the message i got.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ |

What's so funny about his little argument though is the fact that he doesn't realize how much winning a Stanley Cup does for a team, financially speaking. If you seriously don't think the owner of the team wants to win the championship of that league, you are completely delusional.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | February 27, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil,

Because IMO he is the best young center out there that may actually be available and his cap hit would be a wash for Semin's.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Cool, so let's not even pretend that this city is somehow a "hockey town" now anymore.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 2:50 PM

i'm sorry - i'm not sure what this means

DC has never been a hockey town, just football, the 'anymore' is what has me confused. this might not be on the same track as your comment - but just going for one SC (and winning) will not make DC a hockey town. imo - that would take being a contender for years. are they contenders today, hardly, but i don't think they can aquire all of the 'missing pieces' by 3pm tomorrow.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, let me just say that some of you need to bring different takes to the conversation. cstanton, tmac, vermontcaps, joek443. We know where you stand. We know you think us being hopeful and cautiously positive are "drinking the Kool-aid and blindly buying in to the teams decisions/decision makers.

How about talking about other important things, like who YOU want us to trade for. Its always the same old BS. Belittle this person for being a fan. Talking down to another because they think (hope) the team pulls in together in the last 1/5th of the season.

If I read one more "drinking the Kool aid" reference or "fire BB and/or GMGM", I'm gonna lose it.

We get it. We know how you feel about the situation. How about delving a little deeper and leaving those subjects alone for a bit. Please?

Posted by: capsfan0837 | February 27, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Semin fetches a blue chip player. All you Semin haters undervalue him too much. He is an elite forward in The NHL. When I hear some of the trades involving Semin it makes me wonder. Semin would get you almost a Nash, Statsny and others. I mean trading Semin for Weiss and Dvorak sounds dreadful even if you are talking Varly for Volkun. That would be IMO the worst NHL trade and great for The Panthers.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Ford would not be a good back up goalie. he is good in the echl, ok in the ahl, he would probably suck in the nhl. so if varly keeps getting hurt like he is every other month we will need a new goalie sometime. holtby is always available but thats too many transactions bringing him up and then sending him down all the time. and perreault has the skills so i think we will keep him for the rest of the season and maybe trade him and someone else next season. but i hope he stays cuz i like perry

Posted by: geary88 | February 27, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

If you seriously don't think the owner of the team wants to win the championship of that league, you are completely delusional.
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LMAO every owner WANTS to win the championship, even the Donald Sterlings of the world.

However Leonsis worries MORE about GMGM making bad moves that could set the team back and hurt his pocket book than he wants to win the Cup.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

@ capsfan0837

Well said.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

i dont think semin gets treated unfairly in here..he is what he is. a regular season streaky scorer who on many occassions takes a stupid penalty..he'll fit perfectly somewhere else, we dont have the leadeship to afford to keep him..just my opinion..

Posted by: cptjack70 | February 27, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@joek443 - that Francis deal from the 1990s is the only big trade example that worked. Its usually the small deal a team makes that works - over the last 20 years.

Pittsburgh got Bill Guerin - that helped.

Florida got Ray Sheppard and lost 1996 finals

Edmonton got Roloson in 2006 and lost finals

Anaheim got Rob Niedermayer and came close in 2003

If it was always the big deal I guess Calgary would have won a few cups in a row.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

If I read one more "drinking the Kool aid" reference or "fire BB and/or GMGM", I'm gonna lose it.

We get it. We know how you feel about the situation. How about delving a little deeper and leaving those subjects alone for a bit. Please?

Posted by: capsfan0837 |

Cstanton does.

It actually used to be a lot better around here. Joek443, tmac, hunter, and vermont used to all be regular contributors to a healthy conversation, but their posts have generally degenerated into that of irrelevance.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | February 27, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

This is the type of a move that a team that actually wants to win the Cup makes, NOT a team that just says they want to win the Cup... a pretender like Ted's Caps

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 2:58 PM

but in 1991, teams could spend any amount of money they wanted. do you really think any team (not just the caps) could make those types of moves today?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

not to intrude, but what kind of fishing are we talking ?

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Freshwater for trout, bass, pike; or sometimes the parking lot for balloons....both work just fine for me

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 27, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

So of the posts have gotten very chippy and nasty. Soem of the above used to be more thoughtful about their posts. They seem to be on some sort of war footing with other fans which I do not understand.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Colorado Avalanche -- Feb. 21, 2001
Colorado Avalanche acquire D Rob Blake and C Steve Reinprecht from Los Angeles for RW Adam Deadmarsh, Aaron Miller, a first-round draft pick (David Steckel) and a conditional pick
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This is also an example of the type of moves that GMGM would NEVER make.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Some just feel they have to position themselves above the fray in order to always be right. It does get lonely in the ivory towers, however. We all are a little uptight right now and nothing is going to make it better. Any trade the Caps make will be met with the same old nonsense. How silly they are for this or that. I'm still with GMGM and I don't really care what anyone thinks of that.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

@joek443 -

Hmmm every 10 years - worth watching tomorrow then for a 7 player deal that puts a team over the top.

Pens 1991
Avs 2001
Caps 2011?

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

So of the posts have gotten very chippy and nasty. Soem of the above used to be more thoughtful about their posts. They seem to be on some sort of war footing with other fans which I do not understand.

Posted by: pkme |

That's what I'm saying. Tmac used to be a normal poster. Joek443 has always been a little off, but he's been "off" to everyone here. Vermont and Hunter contribute some good stuff, and I know both of them play/played hockey. They can't really take offense to what I said because they pride themselves on it.

Now the comments section is just mostly for laughs. I have started to post like I used to right now, being the deadline and everything, but after it I'll let the status quo environment of CI this year re-take hold.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | February 27, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I am with GMGM even though he is one arrogant son of gun. BB not so much. he should have gotten his walking players last May. He is in way over his head. I just do not think he is that smart of a coach.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Cayugalaker,

I have been on the get rid of BB band wagon since last spring when he refused (or couldn't) adjust in the Montreal series and have stood by that all year as well. That being said I have come to grips with the fact that it will not happen until seasons end and I'm just going to have to deal with him behind the bench until that time.

GMGM on the other hand I think gets one more year with a new coach no matter how the rest of this season works out, after that I think if they do not at least make the conference finals he gets his walking papers as well.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

vermontcaps

how big is Patch Pond? Is that where the bass are?

Also, relax. Caps will be fine. I'm not jumpin' ship no matter what happens. I used to root for them to win 25 games a year.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I like that GMGM keeps to himself and off the radar...as opposed to Brian Burke or Ray Shero who telepath all their moves. Plus its fun to be surprised by your teams moves whether you agree or not with them.

As for BB - he has presided over the team as it made its move to be an elite level team. The standard of evaluation is much harder from this point on. Not sure what he can do to outperform expectations continually with this cast of players.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

No way would they trade Varly and keep Neuvy. Are you insane? Varly is the better goalue & BB treats him as such. I sometimes think that neither Neuvy nor Varly are quite playoff ready because of inconsistencies. I can see the logic of brining in a veteran goalie, though I am not convinced. But if they trade someone, it should be Neuvy.


Like many of you, I wonder if the team has tuned out BB; or if BB has run out of ideas for taking the team to the next level. I still have a passing thought that it might be possible for BB to have an ace up his sleeve and we might see the team catch on fire in the playoffs. But if BB is not effective anymore, would the addition of a couple good players help or hurt?

Posted by: caraveli | February 27, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Richmond

I always liked your posts and knowledge. I like the spirited stuff and the lively discussion just not all that personal rubbish. Tmac and the others you mention have some interesting insight and opinions until they stray into the crazy stuff. 10-1 they have a few drinks in them when they post. Which of course is fine but sometimes tone it down.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't care what they do but they better do something because IF we do make the playoffs, the way we are playing it's going to be an early exit once again. Get Schultz's ass out of there. Get a center to anchor the second line and a foward to go along with him on one of the wings because Chamura belongs either on the 3rd or 4th line. Get rid of Hendricks, so what he likes to fight. He is taking up a roster spot that someone with more skill should have. We didn't have a true gritty forward last year and ended up being the best team in the league, until playoffs hit. We need a vet goaltender, as well. Valamov has hurt us the last two years in the playoffs. Matter of fact, I would ship him to another team. Newbie is better than him and has a better up side to him in the future. Valamov is always hurt and allows to many soft goals at the worst of times, i.e. game 7 of last year's playoffs when he allowed that soft goal to make it 2-0. Anyhow, we need two forwards, that can score. One defenseman, that can actually clear traffic around the net, and a vet goalie.....

Posted by: outbeeze | February 27, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm not jumpin' ship no matter what happens. I used to root for them to win 25 games a year.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:18 PM
not jumping here either.
i used to root for them to have a 25 goal scorer - because 25 wins was an unrealistic expectation

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

There is a cancer or cancers in that dressing room and it's not BB. Something's got to give. We simply have no way of knowing what's going on. If this team was in Canada or New York it would be in the freakin' newspaper. There will be a move or two made before tomorrow's deadline. Like it or not.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Trade Schultz! He's a liability for our team - he can't stop an offenseman, he has trouble clearing the puck, he doesn't use his size to clear in front of our net, and he's SO SLOW!

Posted by: blueblonde | February 27, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

30-1 The Caps do not trade Semin. Anyone want in on that action? Of course I am speaking of a fictional bet because I am so poor I can not pay attention.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

pkme,

If it was any other GM I would take those odds in a heart beat but it seems GMGM is so trigger shy that even if it was Gretzky in his prime for Semin he would be hesitant to make the deal.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

pkme,

I think Semin stays unless he's involved in a big multiplayer deal. I don't know about 30-1 but chances are good that he stays IMO.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

30 to 1 is too hard to pass up. I'm in.

Posted by: ebolean1 | February 27, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

ESPN insider is saying Jason Arnott is as good as gone in NJ... He will be a capital tomorrow.. Will cost 3-4 round draft pick and maybe a low level prospect...

Posted by: CapsBaby | February 27, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

more uninspiring news..tampa just finished off rangers..back up 5pts with a game in hand..

Posted by: cptjack70 | February 27, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Serious question here.....when is the last time that GMGM actually traded a roster player at the trade deadline? I am having a hard time remembering any.....

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

of a recent post on nhl.com. Stat, arnott and hemsky are the three most mentioned with caps..

Posted by: cptjack70 | February 27, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Folks love Statsny because of his old man. Sure he is good but he could not even come close to his old man. Dad is smarter and better in every single aspect of the game. Among the top 10 of all time. Maybe even better than that. We are not talking about the HUll's here when we talk about Paul.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

They can do better tha Arnott, I hope they do not settle because he won't cost a lot.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I do think GMGM would trade a 27 year old Gretzky for a 27 year old Semin. I would do that trade. Maybe Tampa is getting sick and tired of Stampkos.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

@cptjack70

Caps wont get Hemsky the asking price for him is teams best prospects plue picks.. Arnott is probably who we will get.. Wont require much...

Posted by: CapsBaby | February 27, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

pkme,

Who out there that is realistically available is a more talented option at center than Statsny in your opionion?

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I just don't get the Hemsky stuff. 5M next year for what??? Hope that doesn't happen. Arnott wouldn't be the worst thing that we could do. Connolly, Weiss, Zubrus, Stastny, Richards? Everyone wants a center. If the Rangers want Richards so badly they can have him. The price just keeps going up, I'm sure. Hemsky? Please.......

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

What about Arnott do Caps fans not like about him?

Posted by: CapsBaby | February 27, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

The Kings get all hot and bothered for Hemsky. They will get him. However I still like Kopitar of The Kings. We will see. The Kings are hot on Semin as they should be. We claim one of their guys off of waivers. Most GMs have a gentlemen's agreement not to snatch players off on waivers. LA gave The Caps a blessing to do this. Makes you wonder. I think The Blue Jackets, Blues are the best of all rosters for us to partner with come trade day. Maybe the Kings. It is fun to speculate.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

CapsBaby,

I like the experience that Arnott brings but the few games I have seen from him this year it really looks like he has slowed down a lot. And a 2nd line center that will be playing with Sturm and Semin (if he is still here) needs to have enough speed to keep up with them.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

While surfing for any news whatsoever, I just ran across a report that the Devils want Varly and a prospect for Brodeur and Arnott.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Cayugalaker,

That sounds like bs as I don't think the Devils would ever trade Marty.....that being said, no way I do that deal as they both have lost a step and Varly would be too much to give for those two IMO.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Phil,

Pettinger to Nucks for Cooke and Pothier to the Canes are the last two that I can remember

Posted by: Steve_R | February 27, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

PhilR

I will agree that Arnott has lost a step, but he has won a cup and has a good track record. In the playoffs he has always been cluth. I like him for his size and he will go to the net.. He would make our team better

Posted by: CapsBaby | February 27, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Steve_R,

Thanks, I was having a big brain fart there.

CapsBaby,

Like I said, I like his experience but just don't think he has the speed to keep up with the wingers he would be centering. Now maybe put Backs on the line with Semin and Sturm and Arnott with Ovie and Knuble/Fehr may work.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

trade Schultz. He was our worst Dman last night. How many times did an Isles forward easily cut around him? How many times did he make his new patented blind clear on his backhand only to get it intercepted easily for a scoring chance against.

Add a vet. Cut a young bum.. Sarge is our biggest liability on D.

Posted by: cstanton1

Schultx was a +2 last night with Hannan. I saw him make 1 obvious error in the game ( I was on the glass!)

Caps were beyond pathetic in the 1st. They played well in the 2nd and well in the 3rd (until they score the GW) They still like to stop playing O as soon as they take a lead. Backie needs to shoot and not always pass (possibly a sore thumb?) He did not take faceoffs.

Tons of caps fans at the game...really cool moment when it was a commercial break, Hendricks came over to the glass and sorta said hi to a group of us caps fans!

I also saw King in the hotel lobby (didn't know he had been put on waivers at that point) He was nice...wish him the best.

Was King claimed yet? If he isn't can we send him down to Hershey or is he a one way contract?

For those who think Varly is/was part of a trade deal...someone reported that he left the morning skate early and looked uncomfertable

Posted by: capscoach | February 27, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The thing about making a "big" deal at or near the deadline is you have to have another organization to make the deal happen.
With the salary cap those deals are tougher to make happen now and weren't all that common in the past anyway.
Its great as fans to talk about deals but much tougher to actually pull them off.
Sturm is a nice complementary player and veteran presence but I'm not sure he's a significant upgrade.
Same can be said of Kovalev. Don't know that he's a big upgrade but the veteran presence is probably as valuable actual hockey skills.

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | February 27, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

capscoach,

I have to agree that Schultz has been the worst dman on the team for the past few weeks, he gives the puck away way too much when trying to clear the zone and gets walked around by fast forwards too easily.

As far as Varly goes, from what I heard he left the ice abruptly and it was reported later that he had an injury, that could be a cover story when he is really a part of a trade package so they did not want to take a chance of him getting hurt in last nights game.

Who knows, GMGM is si secretive that anything or nothing could happen in the next 23 hours.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

where did everybody go? Or did the blog die?

Posted by: ebolean1 | February 27, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Lets all be positive until after the deadline.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 1:45 PM |

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Better yet, Lets all be positive until after the PLAYOFFS!

One more time, turning a run-and-gun team into a defensively responsible club that CAN go far in the playoffs is not an overnight thing. But they ARE going in the right direction.
President's Cup or Stanley Cup? You decide.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | February 27, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

how easily folks forget:

Lose to the Flyers in game seven on home ice 2008

Get crushed by the Penguins on home ice in game seven 2009

Get embarrassed in losing three straight to the Habs 2010.

THE PRESIDENT'S CUP DOESN'T MEAN JACK!

The regular season is to hone the team into one that can play the kind of responsible, defensive hockey that wins championships. We aren't there quite yet, but we are going in the right direction.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | February 27, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, Capscoach, maybe you want McPhee to announce his trades in advance? Of course he's "secretive". He's supposed to be, that's how trades get done.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | February 27, 2011 4:35 PM | Report abuse

vermontcaps

how big is Patch Pond? Is that where the bass are?

Also, relax. Caps will be fine. I'm not jumpin' ship no matter what happens. I used to root for them to win 25 games a year.
----------------Cayugalaker--------------

Patch's pond is around the corner, but I've never fished there (but East Creek, which flows in/out of it, is good for trout in the spring) For bass, I usually go to Glen Lake or Lake Bomoseen.

As for the Caps, I couldn't me more relaxed and who said anything about jumping ship? I've got 30+ years following the team, and the sticks of Scott Stevens and Torrie Robertson proudly collect dust down in my basement. Cubs fans got nothing on me, and though I root for the Bruins now too, they'll never supplant my obsession w/the Caps.

For what it's worth, I'm disappointed we missed out on the Stuart/Wheeler and Neal/Niskanen trades. Of all the scenarios I've seen posted here, I guess at this point I'm hoping for ****55/Semin for Stastney/Liles to go down.

BB MUST GO!!! (three)

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 27, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The thing about making a "big" deal at or near the deadline is you have to have another organization to make the deal happen.
With the salary cap those deals are tougher to make happen now and weren't all that common in the past anyway.
Its great as fans to talk about deals but much tougher to actually pull them off.
Sturm is a nice complementary player and veteran presence but I'm not sure he's a significant upgrade.
Same can be said of Kovalev. Don't know that he's a big upgrade but the veteran presence is probably as valuable actual hockey skills.

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | February 27, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abu

The cap has been in place for years now. It has been tough to trade for years now. That is why if you don't want to overpay the deadline, sign a free agent. Can't have it both ways.


Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

jason arnott is the best fix

Posted by: Green-ery | February 27, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

PhilR.

No doubt about Statsny. He is a fine young player. What makes you think he really is in the market? My guess is The AVS will keep him. Would you trade him if he was on your team. Probably not. I do not know who I would take. I do not know what players are like in the locker room and who would mesh the best with this team. It is so hard. Of course I would love to see Nash wear a Capital's jersey but most likely that will never happen. At the center position I just do not know. Most teams never get rid of a good to great center. It is rare.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Where in the world are all of these newbie posters coming from? People are coming out of the woodwork to give their opinions and 3/4 of them have unfamiliar screen names. Guess it is like this every trade deadline and I have just forgotten from previous years.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

pkme,

Plenty of reports out there that Statsny is on the block for the right package and they need scoring wingers badly which is what makes me believe they may bite if Semin was in the deal.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse


PhilR - I would be willing to part w Semin...for the right price.

Do you think a trade of Semin for Statsny is too much or do you think we should be asking for more?

Posted by: dglelite | February 27, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The Avs want scoring wingers but they trade away Chris Stewart. I didn't understand the trade with the Blues. Yeah, Erik Johnson is a real good player, but Shattenkirk is also a good young d-man and Stewart was a beast.

Who knows what the caps will do. Probably end up trading for Arnott which is a mistake.

With the addition of Sturm I would rather just move Laich to Center.

Posted by: digster1013 | February 27, 2011 5:06 PM | Report abuse

dgelite,

I would be very pleased with that swap of players and it actually fills a need for both teams. A great center is much harder to find than a scoring winger however so I think we win in that deal.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

The Avs need a scoring winger and a franchise goalie. But today they have said Stastny isn't going anywhere. So unless its a last ditch effort to drive up the price tag I believe them.

Posted by: ThePat | February 27, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, it looks as if nothing will happen today so I will talk to everyone tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Semin isn't going anywhere, I don't think.

We'll give the Devils a pick and MP for Arnott.

As far as a left-handed D man goes, I have no idea who's out there.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | February 27, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Nobody mentioed it, but I think it's bad when Leonsis does these "Ted's Takes" and puts in there that the caps are trying to acquire a vet or two.

I mean, doesn't that put pressure on the GM and make the price go up.

McPhee is not the worst GM in hockey. But he's far from the best. Like many of them, he's average.

A team can win with an average GM if everything else goes perfect.

Someone above said not to worry, Caps are on the right path. He must've missed the Rangers game.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

ThePat,

Could it be that GMGM was trying to offer Fehr instead of Semin and they are indeed going to hold onto Statsny if it is not a player like Semin coming back? Just bouncing ideas around more than anything else.

Posted by: PhilR | February 27, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

@PhilR

No idea, I dont think they plan on moving Fehr. And to be honest, I dont think anyone would trade for him with his shoulder issues.

@tominsocal

Ted does this every year. Its an effort to lower expectations of the fan base. You say a few vets, then you can pull of a blockbuster and look like a hero. Or you just get a vet and you did what you promised. Its the business side of Ted taking over.

Posted by: ThePat | February 27, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Two of the names being thrown around here recently as possible trade bait are Alex Semin and Semyon Varlamov. While anyone this side of Ovechkin and Backstrom should be available for the right price, I worry about the effect either of these moves would have on Ovechkin. Yes, he's maturing as a person and as a player, we would hope, but he has made it clear that he finds a level of comfort in having some Russian teammates on the roster. Are they his best friends? Don't know. Considering it's a job (and a job for which he is getting paid truckloads of cash), should he be able to "deal with it" if one or both of his countrymen gets shipped out? Absolutely. However, that doesn't mean he could show some youth and go through an adjustment period. Because of that, I'd be very leery of trading either Varlamov or Samin, even if either yielded a pretty hefty offer from another team.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | February 27, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

capscoach,
DJK is on a one-way contract. That doesn't mean he can't be send down, it just means he gets paid the same in the NHL/AHL.
I'm starting to wonder if the Caps are being too soft with the goalies. Anytime somebody gets a tweek, the team sits them. I'm not sure if that is just being safe or overly cautious.
I have to agree with GMGM (gasp!) about the 3 goalies. The Caps have at least 1 if not 2 keepers out of the 3. It would be a shame to trade 1 & have him end up a fixture in the All-star game for another team.
Arnott is slow & old & isn't close to a 2C anymore. The Caps don't need another 3C (at best). If somebody gets Arnott it will be for nothing more than a 5th pick.

Posted by: chriscaps | February 27, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't like the title, " Ted hopes we can add veterans". Hope should be reserved for something you cannot control. He, and his scarf wearing friend are in complete control.

Don't hope. Go out and do.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 5:24 PM | Report abuse

@chriscaps

You are correct Arnott has some age (36) but he is not "slow" he can still move for being 36, look up some game footage, and you will see he is not as slow as you think. He is having a down year, but look at the team he was on.. I think he could fill the role of 2nd line center.. He is big 6-5 220, and will get the nasty goal needed for the current system.. Playing with Semin, would be a good fit.. Semin likes to play outside of the Circles, Arnott would go to the net, and be a force.. If this Caps team was the team from last season, I would say Arnott is not a fit, but the Caps play a different system now, and Arnott would be a good fit.. Coming from NJ, Arnott would not have to take much time adjusting to the system.. Arnott is a perfect fit for this system the Caps play now...If anyone disagrees they dont have a very good hockey IQ or have never played the game.. You dont want a run and gun center in a defensive system...

Posted by: CapsBaby | February 27, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

@underpants

no, hope is appropriate...it takes 2 to tango...and if your tango partner wants to lead you to a cliff to jump off you should not tango with them...weird analogy yes...but hopefully you get the point

Posted by: capscoach | February 27, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Two of the names being thrown around here recently as possible trade bait are Alex Semin and Semyon Varlamov. While anyone this side of Ovechkin and Backstrom should be available for the right price, I worry about the effect either of these moves would have on Ovechkin. Yes, he's maturing as a person and as a player, we would hope, but he has made it clear that he finds a level of comfort in having some Russian teammates on the roster. Are they his best friends? Don't know. Considering it's a job (and a job for which he is getting paid truckloads of cash), should he be able to "deal with it" if one or both of his countrymen gets shipped out? Absolutely. However, that doesn't mean he could show some youth and go through an adjustment period. Because of that, I'd be very leery of trading either Varlamov or Samin, even if either yielded a pretty hefty offer from another team.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | February 27, 2011 5:18 PM

Ovechkin understands that this is a business. If there is an opportunity to get a true second line center (Weiss) and a big game tested netminder (Vokoun) then we should be taking the plunge and making this deal happen. Add in Dvorak who is a penalty killing specialist, fast and also has big game experience when he was a Ranger. These are the components you need to make a true run at the Stanley Cup. If you get Vokoun and Weiss, that does not make you better than the Flyers or Bruins (two of the top teams in our conference) but it does get you in a better position to make a run at those teams.

Posted by: diner99 | February 27, 2011 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Did someone actually say Semin could fetch a Rick Nash! Semin couldn't fetch Rick nash's jock.

Posted by: bricucci | February 27, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Tom

Ted and George probably have made their deal. He would not talk so freely unless it already happened. You can take that to the bank. Might have had something to do with LA and claiming Sturm on waivers. However LA is pretty young.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking the deal is done and we just won't hear about it until tomorrow.

Posted by: ebolean1 | February 27, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse


seems to me that if there's a trade brewing it would involve perrault, varlamov, or both.

with neither on the bench against the islanders...

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking the deal is done and we just won't hear about it until tomorrow.
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LOL yeah you just keep thinking that...

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

The next 21 hours basically decide if we get a Stanley Cup.

Oh well...

Posted by: CF11555 | February 27, 2011 6:07 PM | Report abuse

ok - I will but what do you think joke?

Posted by: ebolean1 | February 27, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

Glad you got to watch a Caps win in person. That's something I haven't done in a while -- since the 2nd Pittsburgh game at home. (Which is pretty bad since I'm a season ticket holder.)

Not surprised at the report that Varly got scratched due to looking "uncomfortable" but glad to hear the injury isn't going to be long term.

Trading a goalie at the present time is a bit dicey, given the health of both Varly and Holtby at the moment. At some point, either Varly, Neuvirth, or Holtby will be traded when they sort out who should be our #1. My guess is it will be some time next year. Granted, goalies are our main trading chip at the moment. Trading any of our front line players would be plugging up a hold to create another hole

Posted by: CapsFan75 | February 27, 2011 6:12 PM | Report abuse

And if you think Ted does not know about everything happening right now you are smoking crack. Make no mistake that George runs stuff by Ted. Especially trades and contracts. One thing I got from his Take is that we will not be shipping out the three Russians or Eakin or MJ.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Whatever they do, IF they do anything, will be very minor like another Corvo or Belanger.

And GMGM will be telling everyone that he was the player that they targeted for a long time.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 6:17 PM | Report abuse

if it isn't a "hockey trade" providing a solution beyond just this year, I hope there is no trade, especially not prospects for a rental. But I am not in the game so what do I know.

Posted by: ebolean1 | February 27, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse


if it isn't a "hockey trade" providing a solution beyond just this year, I hope there is no trade, especially not prospects for a rental. But I am not in the game so what do I know.

Posted by: ebolean1 | February 27, 2011 6:21 PM |

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no one knows, but you're using sound judgment in regards to any trade we make.

Posted by: hessone | February 27, 2011 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Bears’ beat reporter Tim Leone - "Orlov: Have to say that's the best first 20 minutes from a 19-year-old D I've ever seen in this league...Yes, compared to Carly as junior eligible."

Posted by: zmega | February 27, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Why on earth does everyone think GMGM is "trigger shy." McPhee makes plenty of trades, some of them don't work out (Joe Corvo), some are absolute steals (Fedorov for a low end prospect and Huet for a second round pick). The only big deal McPhee has been too scared to pull the trigger on in recent memory was for Pronger. The asking price on that deal: One of Neuvy or Varly, One of Alzner or Carlson, AND a first round pick (Johanson is memory serves). Is anyone actually angry he sat that one out?

Now GMGM won't be making a big deal tomorrow because a) there's really no one worth much besides an over priced and concussed Richards and b) because there's no guarantee it will even help. If this roster played on the level they are capable of every night there is not a doubt in my mind they could win the Cup this year. Unfortunately they don't, and adding a big ticket player to an uninspired group doesn't win you a cup. The problems with this team are not all fixable by one trade.

Posted by: dcfury | February 27, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

The only reason we shouldn't make much of a scrifice to fill in gaps is that McPhee didn't do enough this past offseason to where we are a piece or two away.

A lot of people say that we shouldn't take risks and sacrifice simply because they have bought into this "be great for a decade" concept that Leonsis keeps cramming down your koolaid-coated throats.

If McPhee had adequately addressed some of our needs in the offseason, instead of taking actions as if we were a rebuilding team (getting extremely young at several key positions, getting softer, not addressing our top 2 needs, etc...), then it would be well worth it to make relatively significant sacrifices to fill in the missing piece or two.

As is, don't overpay for rentals simply because McPhee failed this past offseason as usual. If he had done his job even remotely right, it would be worth overpaying and sacrificing a little bit of the future for a better chance to win it all. We could've been legit contenders last season and thise if McPhee weren't such a miserable, impotent, vision-less GM. As is, we were pretenders last season due to our faulty style of play (Umberger nailed it) and we're even bigger pretenders this season because McPhee moved in the wrong direction in the offseason for a team supposedly in contending phase, far removed from the start of the rebuild. I'd have no issues with his offseason moves if we were in complete rebuild mode like we were several years ago.

McPhee simply can't get us over the hump. He did the easy part of tanking, accumulating boatloads of 1st rd picks and using them to build a core. Just about any GM could do that part with the go ahead from the owner. What McPhee has repeatedly proven incapable of is building around that core - the hard part - and putting together a well balanced, playoff-caliber roster.

McPhee is entirely the reason why we've fallen on our faces over the last few years. He's the reason why we're the first team ever to lose 3 straight Game 7s at home to finish season. He's the reason we're going to fall well short again this season. As the GM, his role is greater than it's ever been before in the hard cap era. He builds the roster with roughly the same financial constraints as every other team in the league (although some don't spend up the cap limit). His thinking and vision compared to that of other GMs is reflected in the on-ice product like never before. He's failing and he will continue to do so. That should be abundantly clear at this point in time but it still isn't to many of you and maybe even Leonsis. There is only so much koolaid to go around though. When that dries up, you guys will all come around.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I like this report. Arnott waive his no trade clause to be traded to a contender.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/621660-even-with-sturm-on-board-capitals-need-to-swing-a-deal-on-deadline-day

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

tmac: Bad news. Just saw a press release from the Kool-Aid factory. Another million gallons being shipped to one T. Leonsis, Washington D.C.

Don't worry though, do what I did. Last fall I bought 300 XOM in case gas went up. Gas is up. But the stock is up almost $20 x 300 = $6000!

So, tomorrow on Wall St open, buy a boatload of Kool Aid stock. You can thank me when you are comfortably sipping goat's blood, around a swimming pool somewhere, after you've retired early.

signed, Tom Schwab

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

"...and a big game tested netminder (Vokoun..."

I keep reading this type of praise for Tomas Vokoun and how he could lead a team in the playoffs.

I guess he could but what "big game" test has he ever actually gone through in the NHL?

Was it with Nashville...I don't remember him playing a big Stanley Cup playoff game.

Olympics maybe?

World Championship?

Is he even anymore battle tested than Varlamov?

If it was game 7 at home against Pittsburgh is he s aure bet to get a shutout or something?

Playoffs turn men back into boys sometimes.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 27, 2011 7:09 PM | Report abuse

A lot of you have probably already seen this Mike Vogel piece about GMGM's deadline thoughts that's over on Dump 'n Chase, but here's a link anyway.

http://dumpnchase.com/?p=571

Under 20 hours to go now. Probably no point in turning on NHL Network early tomorrow...but I probably will anyway.

Posted by: wocoliz | February 27, 2011 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Tmac.

You raise interesting points in reference to the off season. He fumbled the ball on that one. I do think Bellanger would have solved some of these issues and he was well priced. I would love to know the whole back story on what really happened. The agent ran his mouth and it sounded like there were multiple things going on. Anyway it is too late. If the Caps do well this year in the playoffs I would be pleasantly surprised. We shoulD not leverage in order to lose in the 2nd round.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 7:15 PM | Report abuse

unlike crude oil - there is a endless supply of kool-aid. the state of the caps is not as bad as some would like you to believe.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Did noone read outbeeze's post? Nobody is going to say anything about him saying we need to get rid of Hendricks? Once again proof that there is always someone who thinks whatever GMGM does is wrong.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 27, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Caps haven't improved the since last spring and most of that falls with GMGM. BB may not be a great coach, but the Caps didn't have the depth of talent that people were lead to believe last year. A number of the supporting players like Fehr, Laich, and Knuble had great years that they weren't likely to duplicate. Add in some injuries to key players like Green, Poti, and Semin, and it's no surprise that the team has regressed. Simply put - the Caps are not a very deeep team after their stars.

Trading for rent a players at this point at the expense of young, developing talent (Varly, Neuvirth, MoJo) would be very shortsighted. The Caps are a one and done in the playoffs unless they get a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay who they match up with well. Trading for a Connolly or Arnott will not make a big difference as neither of them are difference makers. Ted needs to shake up the front office in the offseason to bring a new architect to finish the construction.

Posted by: wizfan89 | February 27, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

The hard cap era has diminished the likelihood of teams remaining dominant for extended periods of times like we saw in the pre-hard cap era. There is very unlikely going to be another Detroit or going back further, Montreal, or any other dynasty or semi-dynasty as long as they have the current cap structure in place. That doesn't mean teams can't repeat or win multiple cups with the same core, just that it's less likely than ever before in the entire history of the league.

The "be good for a decade" was a failed strategy from the get go. It's hoping more than rationalizing and accurately assessing the state of the league. It's trying to hold on too long to something. The trend may get bucked but the last 2 cup winners have extremely active GMs, who did everything to strike while the iron was hot, i.e., their superstars were on entry level contracts. They weren't scared to sacrifice the future to an extent to gain an advantage over the competition. The Flyers are also in that boat as are other teams run by superior GMs who better understand the nature and realities of the hard cap era.

Windows are smaller than ever and there will be more risers and fallers each season than ever before. Some of you thought the Caps were poised to be dominant for years. That isn't going to happen. The signs are already there. While McPhee keeps sitting on his hands and being overly conservate and not striking while the iron is hot, other young, rebuilding teams are catching and will surpass us, leaving us and this rebuilding attempt in the dust.

Soon, Ovechkin and other core players will be overpayed stars and more and more Stamkos types will be on entry level contracts that superior GMs will take advantage of. Malkin was on an entry level contract when they won. Ditto with Toews and Kane last season. Backstrom was on an entry level contract last season. Now our stars are getting paid like stars, much like Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Toews, etc...

We have other good, young players that may or may not turn into stars but the best of our best players our now getting paid like it. Teams like the Pens, Caps, Hawks, etc... are going to give way to a new generation of elite teams over the next few years. These teams still have chances but it's harder than before. There almost certainly isn't going to be a dynasty among those teams. Not impossible but unlikely.

Somebody posed the question last season whether Caps fans would take 1 cup and missing the playoffs for years after that vs the chance to win multiple cups with our superpower of a team (that is currently regressing). Most wanted the multiple cup opportunity. I didn't hesistate to take the cup and missing the playoffs for years. It was a hypothetical question but the point is that fans and apparently, GMs and owners, still don't seem to understand the impact of the hard cap in terms of the parity it creates. You will all learn. As will Leonsis and McPhee. Enjoy the Pres. Trophy and MVPs. That may be it.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Ted needs to shake up the front office in the offseason to bring a new architect to finish the construction.

Posted by: wizfan89 | February 27, 2011 7:17 PM

Bada bing bing bingo!!!

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we can make a deal with the Flyers. After getting blown out by Ottawa (2nd from bottom in standings), they must be in a total panic. Wonder how their bloggers are handling that embarrassment?

What say you experts? Who would they give us for Semin?

If they don't win the cup, I say "Fire Holmgren."

Posted by: hanks1 | February 27, 2011 7:25 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: hanks1 | February 27, 2011 7:25 PM

It'll be interesting to see the about-face you and many others will be doing 2 or 3 years from now when the Caps still haven't advanced past the 2nd rd of the playoffs and some team that started rebuilding well after us is hoisting a cup.

All of you will come around. I'm no different than any of you beyond the fact that I've come to see McPhee for what he is and that is the biggest barrier to us taking the next. There are no guarantees. I understand that. I'm arguing that WE WON'T EVEN GET CLOSE under McPhee. That's different than the binary logic of "win cup = success; don't win cup = failure."

If we are half as awesome of a team coached by half as awesome of a coach mananged by half as awesome of a GM owned by half as awesome of an owner as most of you think, we should surely have a greater peak than last season or the one before even if we don't win a cup.

On the other hand, if we stick with McPhool and it turns out that the peak of this rebuild was the past 2 seasons, I'm pretty sure y'all will be ready to crucify him as well. After all, from the roster to the coaching to the scouting, he is the most responsible person for the on-ice product in this organization.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Note that I said "most" responsible and not "entirely" responsible.

Note: This clarification has been made necessary by the sgms among you who use altered states of logic and common sense.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

tmac
I fully understand what you're saying and I hope something good happens to improve us. My point is that there are lots of teams out there with less talent and less hope of winning the Cup. I think we still have the talent and hope we will be a much better playoff team -- less cocky and more ready to grit it out. We can play great hockey, but obviously have not done so consistently. Can we put that together by April? That's what I'm looking forward to.

Posted by: hanks1 | February 27, 2011 7:49 PM | Report abuse

It's time to have realistic expectations. Having a strong SC contender this year is unrealistic at this point. A major infusion of talent at the deadline is unrealistic.

If the team were to add Arnott for a 3rd pick and if he and Sturm were to play at a level that gave the team a legit second line (with Semin), I could live with that. Add to that a trade of Schultz for a d-man similar to Hannan and I would be reasonably happy. Not overjoyed, but reasonably happy.

Is that asking too much?

Posted by: zmega | February 27, 2011 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I want you all to know, I prefer goats blood. But for some reason, I have a good feeling.

I don't have any knowledge, just a feeling.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Note: This clarification has been made necessary by the sgms among you who use altered states of logic and common sense.


Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 7:42 PM

tmac: I really like the disclaimer. You should use it all the time.

"My name is tominsocal1 and I approve this message."

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 8:11 PM | Report abuse

zmega: I think you have a very good plan, if that can be pulled off. I was hoping we could get Clutterbuck and Nick Schultz from the Wild. I think in that type of deal we could send Fehr and our Schultz and maybe something else. Maybe a lower prospect and maybe also #3 or 4 pick.

You have then Ovi-Backs-Knuble and Sturm-Arnott-Semin. A very nice checking line can be made from Laich-MaJo-Clutterbuck. Very nice. Bradley, Beagle, Hendricks and Steckel make your 4th line.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 8:16 PM | Report abuse

TMAC,

You say everything is broken and some things are. I disagree with you about half of your points. Are The Caps The Maple Leafs or Oilers? Is it really that bad. This has been a frustrating year. Instead of stating everything is doom and gloom who would yo trade. It is easy to say thing are messed up. Not as easy to come up with a realistic solution.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 8:21 PM | Report abuse

tominsocal1:
your something else, based on the line up listed, could be chimmy or bgordo. my guess is you'd want it to be chimmy based on salary

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Tim Leone is reporting that Orlov has played two AHL games and still has not been on the ice for an opponent's goal. Two assists, one on the PP for a plus one overall and the Bears are 2-0 with him.

Posted by: dull | February 27, 2011 8:31 PM | Report abuse

dull:
nice to hear - thanks. who are the bears putting in goal?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 8:33 PM | Report abuse

If we came up with Arnott and Chris Phillips would that make anybody happy? Honestly, other than Connolly or a huge blockbuster, I think that's the best we can hope for. LA is a wild card in all of this. They seem to be rumored to be offering almost anybody. Don't know if that's true, of course.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Jared DeMichiel was in net for Hershey on Saturday. RIT hockey grad.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Anyone feel like they are showcasing Orlov?

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I think McPhee should go after Jan Hejda. He's a UFA after the season making $2mil and with CBJ picking up Rivet via waivers they're probably looking to rid one defender. Maybe not him in particular, but maybe he could be had for a lower round pick.

He hits, block shots, PK's a lot, can log big minutes. Is 6'4", 237lb.

Posted by: Walle | February 27, 2011 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Cay,

You know who else when to RIT? Joey Junuea. Think I spelled his name wrong.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 8:46 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people are talking about Ales Hemsky. Please keep him out west. Another softy who can't perform in the playoffs with no time and space available to the skill guys.
Adding Arnott for a low level pick is realistic. I still contend that even with a bonified 2nd line center, Semin is not a playoff threat as his game is based on speed and dangling. There is none of that in the playoffs.

Fehr is a big body and I would be careful about moving him. I think focus on these guys to move:

Gordon, Steckel, Semin, Varly, Perrault and Bradley.

Posted by: diner99 | February 27, 2011 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Capn: I think my failure to include Chimera in my line-up is what they called a Freudian slip.

Honestly, I thought I had included all but BGordon and that he would be 14th forward.

pkme: As a political philosophy student, I was constantly balancing the two extremes on an argument and looking for the solution somewhere in the middle. It's that way with Dems and Reps.

On one side of the spectrum we have tmac and cstanton. joek is almost as far "right" as them. PhilR and kcbrichmond not so far. Me and SAOTI maybe toward the middle (although doesn't seem that way). The good capn, fanohock and capscoach on the "left" if you will.

And this blog is no different than watching MSNBC or Fox.

Who can yell the loudest?

I will admit, so far this year, the Dark Siders have been more right than the Sunshine Kids.

Exhibit 1 for the Defense: Fleischmann.

Exhibit 2: Perreault.

Exhibit 3: Poti.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Hejda is the most underrated Defenseman in the whole NHL. He would be an awesome addition. I said last year on TSN blog with Custance and the other hockey pundits that I thought we should go for him. Custance emailed me back saying that he thought he would help The Caps but that The Blue Jackets would not let him go anywhere. Great price and just as solid as they come. If he was in a bigger market and better team we would hear more about him. One of my favorites.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 8:51 PM | Report abuse

pkme,

and Steve Pinizzotto down at Hershey. RIT is just up the road from me. Never go to the games though. AHL mostly.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I said email Custance. I meant blogging back and forth. BTW, TSN does have a great trade deadline blog with the Pros. Guys who answer questions. Got to keep it clean Tmac. They usually have five or six reporters. Most of them are great.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Interesting read on the Caps site about the trade deadline and Caps. Sure McPhee puts a lot of the same ole speak out there but interesting to note that he did make the Sens an offer for Fisher but never heard back from Bryan Murray. Would've loved to learn what the offer was for Fisher.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | February 27, 2011 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I want to say Junea was studying to be an aeronautical engineer. BTW, did folks on here know that Ryan Miller is Kelly's cousin. I was thinking of Capitals that would be great on this team. Kind of off subject.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Kelly Miller

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Joey Juneau went to RPI, Renesslear Polytech, in Troy NY. I played hockey there my freshman year before the dean told me I must not be looking at any books and can't play hockey anymore.. HA. Joey was once asked why he didn't follow his degree in Aeronautical Enging. He said he couldn't make 2 milliona a year designing spacecraft. Year I played we had two all americans , Bobby Brinkworth and a defensmen. I still play at age 65 going on 66. I've been watching hockey since the old Madison Square Garden in NYC and watched Rod Gilbert play his first game. It is amazing how some of you go on about the Caps , never having played a minute of competitive hockey.

Posted by: billd2 | February 27, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Cay,

You know who else when to RIT? Joey Junuea. Think I spelled his name wrong.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 8:46 PM

That would be Joe Juneau, although was pronounced Joe-ay Juneau.

Adam Oates too I think.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Tom. A spell check function would be great on here. The Caps will trade I think with The Blues, Blue Jackets, or Kings. That is my guess. We will find out in about 18 hours.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how some of you go on about the Caps , never having played a minute of competitive hockey.
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It's amazing the best coach in the NFL in this decade and perhaps in our lifetime NEVER played the game and learned the game by watching his dad breaking down the films.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how some of you go on about the Caps , never having played a minute of competitive hockey.

Posted by: billd2 | February 27, 2011 9:10 PM

Bill, not to be disrespectful, but it's also amazing how common people go off about politicians while having never served in office.

Put yourself in the public eye - entertainer, politicians, sports figure - and accept the big bucks while doing so, and you must accept the critiques.

I've never been in Congress, but I can see they are doing a rotten job. I've never been a barber, but I can tell a bad hair cut. And, yes, I've never played professional sports.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

@ billd2

Release the hounds.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

joke and tom. Yes you're are right. I guess what I'm trying to say is I watch a game and see some things that others may, I underline may, not see. Opinions are just that, and more here should take them with a grain of salt. The personal attacks on the players, coach, GM and owner are unwarrented. Complain about what they do, but leave the other garbage out. Too much hate. I daresay none would say that to their faces.
Hope for the best by 3 pm tomorrow ..
Bill D

Posted by: billd2 | February 27, 2011 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Bill has a point and so does Tom. However I am with Tom and Joe's side on this one. Bill you do not necessarly know the background of those on here. Some have played at a high level and many have no experience on the ice. The Caps have looked pretty bad this year and you do not need a PHD in hockey to see that. The chemistry looks bad, the passing game is weak, the power play is bad, the offense is 22 in the whole NHL, and they look lost half of the game. The forecheck sometimes looks okay. The players do not drive to the net and do not work the corners well. Sure the PK looks great the defense looks better but how will this translate. Regardless I like your posts but this is meant to be a lively and spirited place.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 9:32 PM | Report abuse

@billd2
It appears you've had an interesting life. Congratulations. However, folks are entitled to their opinions even if they haven't played hockey at your level. I mean I've never been a woman, but I still "go on about them".

Posted by: kcbrichmond | February 27, 2011 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Check this out. Nice reminder that Varly is the result of Brendan Witt deadline deal.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/the-art-of-selling-in-the-nhl/article1922911/

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I watch a game and see some things that others may, I underline may, not see. Opinions are just that, and more here should take them with a grain of salt. The personal attacks on the players, coach, GM and owner are unwarrented. Complain about what they do, but leave the other garbage out.
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Having played the game doesn't give you more insight into what the owner and GMGM do with the team. I like other people on here have watched and followed sports long enough to know a championship management team when I see it.

After watching this team under the direction of GMGM, I don't think it takes a genius or anyone who has played the game to figure out that he AIN'T all that even though he seems to have the same attitude towards those who are not in the game as you do about those who have not played the game.

Face it, he's just one cocky SOB who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and acts like he's achieved so much in this business even though his team has won ONE lousy playoff series in this millennium.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Guys do not beat up on Bill. He has a point. He is right about the personal stuff.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I ALWAYS give McPhee credit for the Witt - Varly thing.

Bill: You are right, those who have played see more than those who haven't. You've played, so maybe sometimes when I say, "That player should do this..." you can explain why or why not. It doesn't bother me. I'm always looking to learn.

I also agree with you on the nastiness. If you read the 10,000 words or so I wrote last night, I believe you will see that. My believes are no personal attacks and no name calling. I, however, do not believe "Kool Aider," "Sunshine Kids," "Dark Siders" or "GB Drinkers" to be name calling.

It's your choice, but you can always ignore those you don't like. What they should have on here (Katie, hint-hint) is an IGNORE feature where you click a person to ignore them and their posts don't show up on your computer. I call that, "selective freedom of speech," because they have the right to speech, but I have the right to ignore.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 9:43 PM | Report abuse

When Joke smells blood the feeding frenzy is on.

Posted by: Cayugalaker | February 27, 2011 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Face it, he's just one cocky SOB who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and acts like he's achieved so much in this business even though his team has won ONE lousy playoff series in this millennium.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 9:40 PM

Winner, winner...

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 9:56 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1:

Sorry for the obscurity of the reference; thought maybe you might be a fan of Larry Niven's work. Anyway the reference was compliment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomolecular_wire

Keep the faith.

Das Rhino

Posted by: Rhino40 | February 27, 2011 10:03 PM | Report abuse

The personal attacks on the players, coach, GM and owner are unwarrented. Complain about what they do, but leave the other garbage out. Too much hate. I daresay none would say that to their faces.

Posted by: billd2 | February 27, 2011 9:28 PM

this is how i feel also.
i'm a lot closer to the fence than those on the other side can see, but i stay off of it for fear of falling off onto the wrong side - i just can't live my life like a dark sider.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Fact is I like all of the Capital players. Some I just do not like the way they play. And you can tell when they are slacking off. Hockey is the fastest moving sport of them all. It is easy for all of us to be arm chair coaches and GM's but heck that is part of the fun of watching sports. It is like an alternative universe where for a few hours we can leave our dull and boring lives and watch people who personify greatness or close to it. Professional atheletes have a great life and lets be honest anyone of us would kill to have their gift and ability. And to be paid a great living to play a sport or game has to be an amazing feeling. I mean none of us dreamed about working in a cubcile growing. Daddy I want to work in acubicle and have the most boring of existance. Or daddy can I sell something to someone who finds me annoying. You get the point. When you see guys who have so much ability do things half way it irritates.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Better to hold on to the assets and search for a new coaching staff for next season.

Posted by: alanb1 | February 27, 2011 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Alan spot on.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Still nothing. It's quiet.

I disagree alanb1. Time to load up. Anything can happen in the playoffs.

We should know. It always happens to us.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 10:29 PM | Report abuse

i see us picking up vokoun and andy mcdonald..

Posted by: samb99 | February 27, 2011 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Rhino: I have one or two Larry Niven novels around here that I read years ago. Gibson too. I do recall a "gossamer" wire that science fiction had created to get stuff back and forth from LEO to earth, but I had forgotten about that wire thingy.

So, I'm fictitious :)

Well, much MUCH more civility here tonight with no game to discuss. Seems as though Caps actually playing a hockey game is like a full moon to a werewolf.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Hey! The Sunshine Kids are constantly harping about Dark Siders with personal attacks!

Then we have a Sunshiner every other day calling joek443 "Joke."

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

(BTW, where did that expression come from? It isn't racially insensitive is it?)

May I suggest, "Isn't that like the melon calling the orange round?"

That's so long as nobody objects to the word "melon." Not that I'd ever put that word in the same sentence with, say, a certain former governor who ran for Vice President. No! Not me! I wouldn't do that.

(Once I was at the grocery with mrstominsocal1 and this nicely endowed lady was in fact holding up two melons to compare and it took EVERY OUNCE OF STRENGTH I HAD not to say something to her.)

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Trade deadline less than 18 hours from now. Move along.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 10:40 PM | Report abuse

I was just thinking. Could we reincarnate Adam Oates in in prime to feed Semin. We were talking about him earlier. How is he not in The Hall?

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Just an FYI for those of you saying pick up Chris Phillips...he just agreed to 3 yr extension in Ottawa. Not being traded.

Posted by: ThePat | February 27, 2011 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Good. We didn't want him, now no one else gets him.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 27, 2011 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Brian Murray apparently would not return Mcphee's call in reference to Fisher. Forget the Sens, Maple Leafs and Preds. All the management in those places have been fired by The Capitals. People do hold grudges.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I guess Murray realized he still had to dress 20 players next year.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Brian Murray apparently would not return Mcphee's call in reference to Fisher. Forget the Sens, Maple Leafs and Preds. All the management in those places have been fired by The Capitals. People do hold grudges.
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1. Ron Wilson is just a coach, Burke makes all the moves in TO and GMGM used to work for Burke in Vancouver.

2. Bryan Murray was fired by Polie and he made the Fisher deal with him.

Posted by: joek443 | February 27, 2011 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Joe. Point will taken. You are correct. I guess I am bored.

Posted by: pkme | February 27, 2011 11:05 PM | Report abuse

...I'm just happy Perreault is gone. I was SOOO sick of him getting knocked off the puck and being a step late on D.

We need a second line Center badly

Posted by: XCountryTrevor | February 27, 2011 11:07 PM | Report abuse

It is not a necessity to have played or coached hockey to understand the game, but some of the negative nancies who post on this blog remind me of Richard Nixon in 1960...every time he opened his mouth he lost votes to Kennedy...every time one of these guys spouts off about what is wrong with the Caps, they expose their lack of knowledge in how to manage and coach a hockey team in the NHL in 2011...

Posted by: boomer44 | February 27, 2011 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it wasn't a grudge. Maybe he just knew McPhee was gonna try to low ball him as usual.

McPhee: "Hey, Bri, I didn't want to do it but I'm willing to give you a 7th rd conditional pick and your choice of Boyd Gordon or Jason Chimera for Fisher."

Murray: "Are you freaking kidding me? I gotta go, George." *click*

*ring* *ring*

Murray: "Hello... what is it now George? I said no deal."

McPhee: "Hang on. Just hear me out. Not sure if you heard but I'm now an official representative of Kool-Aid Inc. Now, I know everybody loves Kool-Aid so in addition to the previous offer, I'll throw in a year's supply of Kool-Aid for you and your family. What do you say? You pick the flavor."

Murray: "You're an arrogant pri*k. And that scarf you were wearing in the 24/7 series made you look like a total douch*bag. Goodbye." *click*

McPhee: "Hello? Hello?" (then thinks to himself, "well, his loss... didn't wanna lose Gordo anyway... I win again! I'm awesome!")

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 11:18 PM | Report abuse

McPhee: "Hang on. Just hear me out. Not sure if you heard but I'm now an official representative of Kool-Aid Inc. Now, I know everybody loves Kool-Aid so in addition to the previous offer, I'll throw in a year's supply of Kool-Aid for you and your family. What do you say? You pick the flavor."

Murray: "Hey! I'll pick the flavor but you'll be the one drinking!"

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 11:26 PM | Report abuse

That works, too. Well done, sir.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 11:30 PM | Report abuse

so the lesson here is: if "You're an arrogant pri*k" - no one takes you seriously

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 27, 2011 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Have to relate this:

I was eating dinner earlier and mrstominsocal1 and familyinsocal1 were watching Oscars! I hate that show like I hate having a blood test! Anyway, I was so happy, Kirk Douglas, THE MAN, comes out to give an award.

Kirk is about 95 but I think he still has the toughness we need on the blueline! You don't believe me?

"I'm Spartacus."

"No! I'm Spartacus!"

"We're all Spartacus!"

Now where was that kind of attitude with the Caps when Green was lying on the ice? Huh???

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't consciously trying to teach a lesson but I suppose if there is one, it's that McPhee overvalues his assets and doesn't know how to swing deals.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 11:37 PM | Report abuse

no you muther - I AM FREAKIN SPARTACUS!!! ;^)

Posted by: ebolean1 | February 27, 2011 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Now where was that kind of attitude with the Caps when Green was lying on the ice? Huh???

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 27, 2011 11:34 PM

Nonexistent ever since McPhee slowly but surely neutered this team.

Slow neutering... sounds painful, aye?

Not for guys like Schultzy and Gordilocks though. Can't neuter someone without a sack.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 27, 2011 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Per TSN: Buffalo acquires Brad Boyes from STL. for a 2nd round pick.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | February 27, 2011 11:48 PM | Report abuse

15 hrs to go - is george even working?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 28, 2011 12:03 AM | Report abuse

15 hrs to go - is george even working?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 28, 2011 12:03 AM

Does giving Poti a private groin massage count as working?

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Boyes is making $4 million next year and has seen his production drop every year since he scored 43. Glad we didn't get him. He used to play for the Leafs, which means he's a loser.

Peter Stastny is coming here. And Dale Hunter is the new coach next December when the team drops ts first rd series to the Pens this spring and lose 65% of their games to start next year.

Statsny's dad and Hunter were buds in Quebec. This move makes sense. God I hope the Av's make that deal. Give'em a goalie and Semin.

Posted by: capsfan0837 | February 28, 2011 12:12 AM | Report abuse

tmac2yao:
now that was funny. what isn't funny is if they were discussing the next poti extension

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 28, 2011 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Boy it surely does get pretty sad when you see a guy like Boyes getting traded for a 2nd to another Eatern Conference team and wonder what we are going to do...I mean a 2nd round pick?? We could have given them a player too.

Posted by: Jatchi8577 | February 28, 2011 12:16 AM | Report abuse

15 hrs to go - is george even working?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 28, 2011 12:03 AM

Does giving Poti a private groin massage count as working?

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 12:10 AM

Does it end, as with all Poti's moves, with a pokecheck?

Actually, george is fed up with Poti cuz he "won't enter the crease."

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:17 AM | Report abuse

what isn't funny is if they were discussing the next poti extension

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 28, 2011 12:12 AM

Pretty sure they were discussing Poti's "extension."

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 12:17 AM | Report abuse

You mean Paul Statsny. I know it was a typo.

Posted by: pkme | February 28, 2011 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Boy it surely does get pretty sad when you see a guy like Boyes getting traded for a 2nd to another Eatern Conference team and wonder what we are going to do...I mean a 2nd round pick?? We could have given them a player too.

Posted by: Jatchi8577 | February 28, 2011 12:16 AM

I can think of about four or five I could have tossed in.

Oh, but we don't have a #2 pick, courtesy of the infamous "Corvo deal."

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:20 AM | Report abuse

There is not doubt that GMGM has done some good things with the Caps. And ultimately, he has built a playoff contender for the last 3 years, but the players haven't been able to win.

But he fails to realize where the missing pieces to his team lie. He knew we needed a big defense-men the past few years, and even so now, but didn't act on it.

With that, I think it is time for a change. GMGM hasn't won and has had plenty of time. The rebuild has been going on for a while now. I would give BB till the end of this year to see how he does as coach. I like BB but he needs to hold the players accountable and learn how to call them out.

Posted by: digster1013 | February 28, 2011 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if Poti took a "shot" to the face.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 12:21 AM | Report abuse

LMAO - Tmac - hope that shot to the face didn't sting or burn Poti too much.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | February 28, 2011 12:28 AM | Report abuse

hope that shot to the face didn't sting or burn Poti too much.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | February 28, 2011 12:28 AM

If it did, BB would just kiss the "ouchie" and make it all better.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Well, February 27th 2011 has come and gone (on east coast).

For those of you waiting for that "big move" by the Caps today:

Todd Ford was sent back to Hershey.

If something doesn't get tomorrow, the uprising in Caps Nation will rival the streets of Cairo about two weeks ago.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:48 AM | Report abuse

I seriously wonder how many coaches in NHL history have used the term "ouchie" to refer to a player's injury. Maybe it's more than I realize.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 12:49 AM | Report abuse

If something doesn't get tomorrow, the uprising in Caps Nation will rival the streets of Cairo about two weeks ago.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:48 AM

You think?

I get the sense that a lot of people are more towards indifferent at this point.

A. I think the bulk of the frustration occurred over the last 2 weeks while all the teams around us were wheeling and deeling while we did nothing.

B. I think Caps fans expectations are relatively low at this point, not just when it comes to McPhee but the Caps' chances this season in general. Maybe it's just me but I think it's obvious that we are more than a piece or two away. Combine that with point A and it's hard to see what fans would expect.

C. It seems that for one reason or another, koolaiders and darksiders all agree that there is no point in overpaying for a rental(s). We just have different justifications for it. Koolaiders have bought into the "good for a decade" and conservatism while darksiders don't see the point in making any future sacrifices since we are more than a piece or two away. Had McPhee shored up some things this past offseason, it'd be a different story.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Random question...

How come the techies at CI have yet to figure out the cause of the Tourette syndrome effect on our posts?

You know, the word wrap issue where a word or phrase is duplicated on the next line.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 1:01 AM | Report abuse

I am, however, all for any trades that could possibly still be made to improve us for next season and beyond. I just see no hope for this season and don't want to make any sacrifices for short-term gains, i.e., just for this season.

I typically criticize McPhee for sitting on his hands but since he already did that this summer when we had more needs that could reasonably be met during one period of trade activity, he might as well not try to patch things up at this point if it's only a rental. I'm all for sacrifice and rentals if we are legitimately a piece or two away. We aren't though.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Wow, just flipping through the stations and see this girl Jennifer Lawrence. Never even heard of her. Pretty hot girl.

Posted by: tmac2yao | February 28, 2011 1:21 AM | Report abuse

She is only 20! Definitely smoking hot.

In Caps news, lets make a trade please.

Posted by: digster1013 | February 28, 2011 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Trade with the Devils

Varly/Semin
Hedberg/Arnott

I like it. Parting with Varly is sweet sorrow but we don't need 3 blossiming goalies. It clears up cap space for next year. Nobody can argue that Semin is a playoff no show. Adding those players would be a huge boost to our chemistry and confidence.

Posted by: broud0 | February 28, 2011 2:08 AM | Report abuse

is the only big trade example that worked. Its usually the small deal a team makes that works - over the last 20 years.

Pittsburgh got Bill Guerin - that helped.

Florida got Ray Sheppard and lost 1996 finals

Edmonton got Roloson in 2006 and lost finals

Anaheim got Rob Niedermayer and came close in 2003

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Brian Bellows in 1998

Posted by: broud0 | February 28, 2011 2:34 AM | Report abuse

ok i'm drunk...throw in Greene and picks

Posted by: broud0 | February 28, 2011 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Nobody can argue that Semin is a playoff no show.
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Semin Career playoff stats:

Games:28
Goals: 8
Assist:16
Points:24

Other than the Habs series the guys been a playoff beast! This notion that he's a no-show is flat wrong, and unfortuantely alot of people thinks it's so..

Posted by: mickstix | February 28, 2011 2:54 AM | Report abuse

@mickstix

Hasn't Semin gone 14 play off games with out a goal ! Just saying !

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | February 28, 2011 5:24 AM | Report abuse

@vermont

When a team takes out a player that you're hoping is a big part of a Cup team with a suspect head shot, you turn that game into a WAR when down 0-4. But no DJK, and no real warriors beyond Brads, Hendricks, and
John, we crawl away like a beaten dog.

No warriors - no Cup ! It's a mindset thing
Flyers and Pens would have turned that game into a 4 hour WAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thus, they hoist. Because they have guys with serious stones on those teams. I think the Flyers hoist and start as new era of "the bad asses winning the Cup again". Look at the Olympics. The nastiest team took the gold. "Euro- fruit" hockey is over. The play offs require you to play "half dead" to win the Big Ugly bowl.

Why does our GM not know this by now ?

Flyers/Wings was a heavy weight bout by any standard. Some serious bad asses on both of those teams. Wish we could have gotten Buf, but he's not a GMGM type of guy.

The saddest part. Ted will take years to realize what it truly takes to win a Cup, and we'll piss away years of Ovi, Green, and Backy while learning.

Ted, lets get some vets with talent AND GUTS. Marco doesn't fit the bill !!!!!!!
R.J does !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | February 28, 2011 5:40 AM | Report abuse


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Posted by: alicebassy123 | February 28, 2011 5:51 AM | Report abuse

tominsocal1 ,

I don't know if you are serious but have you ever seen an iron pot or iron kettle? If not google it and you will see the saying has nothing to do with race.

Posted by: trunkenmath | February 28, 2011 5:55 AM | Report abuse

@tmac

Most Caps fans don't live and breath this stuff like we do. That's how GMGM has been able to blow smoke this long. We're used to abuse from a hideous former owner.

It is basically not a hockey town, and will continue to not be one until we hoist. (Which of course means no GMGM around.)

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | February 28, 2011 6:08 AM | Report abuse

@tmac

Most Caps fans don't live and breath this stuff like we do. That's how GMGM has been able to blow smoke this long. We're used to abuse from a hideous former owner.

It is basically not a hockey town, and will continue to not be one until we hoist. (Which of course means no GMGM around.)

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | February 28, 2011 6:08 AM | Report abuse

@boomer

What play off series have you been watching? Negative Nancies !!! In a real hockey town there would be "death threats" if a team that talented played like a Nicey Nancy in the play offs. Get a clue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People on this site are too nice to our GM.
Bruins fans would be picketing his house.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | February 28, 2011 6:16 AM | Report abuse


People on this site are too nice to our GM.
Bruins fans would be picketing his house.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | February 28, 2011 6:16 AM |

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so go picket gmgm's house.

let me ask you a quaestion. do you own season tickets ?

Posted by: hessone | February 28, 2011 6:38 AM | Report abuse

@broud0

On your trade suggestion with the Devils:

Nyet!!!!

Nowhere nearly enough in return. If the Caps were to acquire Arnott and Hedberg, they could get them both for cheaper.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | February 28, 2011 7:20 AM | Report abuse


@broud0

On your trade suggestion with the Devils:

Nyet!!!!

Nowhere nearly enough in return. If the Caps were to acquire Arnott and Hedberg, they could get them both for cheaper.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | February 28, 2011 7:20 AM |

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goes to show how much folks hate semin.

so, anyone else going to join Hunterforcoach and picket gmgm's house ? that should get him to trade semin for a better forward than he is

Posted by: hessone | February 28, 2011 7:28 AM | Report abuse

@Hunter you need to relax bro before you have a coronary. Im a die hard fan but in the end its just a game.

Posted by: koppleschloss | February 28, 2011 7:44 AM | Report abuse


@Hunter you need to relax bro before you have a coronary. Im a die hard fan but in the end its just a game.

Posted by: koppleschloss | February 28, 2011 7:44 AM |

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good advise kopp.

have some fun, enjoy the day. the caps will be alright

Posted by: hessone | February 28, 2011 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Yep, there's more to life than hockey.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | February 28, 2011 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | February 28, 2011 5:40 AM | Report abuse

As usual, enjoying your posts and liked this one bemoaning the lack of battle-tested warriors on the roster.

However, as odd as it seems, I'm not worked up or bothered like some over the hit on Green. (I do respect tominsocal and pokerface's take on the incident, especially tom's comment that retritubtion doesn't have to be only for dirty hits....folks are coming around on this site!!)

I said before, I wish our forwards would throw some weight around when battling for pucks, and I've seen the play repeatedly and I just can't blame Stepan for what he did. Those on the ice at that moment get a free pass from me on that one (yes, I'm talking about Johnny Rock Star.)

However, when Stepan ran at Ovi....enough was enough!! Someone should've given him the business after that...instigating penalty, fine, and/or suspension be damned!

As for your comment/suggestion about picketing GMGM's house, that was too funny!!

BB AND GMGM MUST GO! (one)

Posted by: vermontcaps | February 28, 2011 8:14 AM | Report abuse

BB AND GMGM MUST GO! (one)

Posted by: vermontcaps

I know they have bathrooms at Kettler and they can go anytime they need to.

Posted by: ds_kelly | February 28, 2011 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Hunter & Tmac, why don't you form an adult league team, put the team together, coach them and let's see how you do...report back on the team and we can follow how you guys would actually manage and coachg ateam...

Posted by: boomer44 | February 28, 2011 10:48 AM | Report abuse

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