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The other Backstrom re-signs in Minnesota

One of the goalies rumored to be on the move tomorrow -- the Wild's Niklas Backstrom -- has re-signed for four years, $24 million, according to ESPN.com. So Caps fans can scratch him off their wish list.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  March 3, 2009; 12:12 PM ET
 
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Haha

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

haha

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

lol

Posted by: honed | March 3, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

dammit 828, you beat me to it.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

also;

Aaron Voros, Gary Roberts, and Miro Satan were all just waived per Dreger.

hm....

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

That's a committment.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 3, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

HaHaHawwwuuuuttt?

Posted by: WhyGo | March 3, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

also, tsn says avery's a ranger again

Posted by: honed | March 3, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

The Yankees just signed Pronger for 6 years 126 million.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 3, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

oh no, the Caps are doomed... There goes our playoff hopes. Was planning on going to tonights game, but what's the point. Caps aren't going to win any playoff games. Guess I will just wait for next year!

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

thomas and satan waivered = true.

satan being waivered = trade coming for the pens.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Cool, good luck to him. The Morris thing is looking more and more interesting.

Posted by: kittypawz | March 3, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

SA-Town, I heard 129 million... there was a 43 million dollar signing bonus.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

@828: I'll take your seat :)

Posted by: kittypawz | March 3, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

From TSN:

"Sources tell TSN three teams remain in pursuit of Phoenix Coyotes defenceman Derek Morris.

The Washington Capitals, Philadelphia Flyers and the Boston Bruins are still negotiating with the Coyotes for Morris"

Posted by: TJ91 | March 3, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the silly season has truely arrived! There's another one come 6/30...

Posted by: Greg S. | March 3, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Brendan Morrison has been put on waivers by ANA as well according to Dreger.

Posted by: ThePat | March 3, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Avery from the Rangers to the Stars and then back to the Rangers...Stars still have to pay some of his salary...so who is the "sloppy second?"

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Gary Roberts on waivers too? Interesting.

Posted by: mauree | March 3, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

How about we get Morris and Gretzky can get Alex's autograph... sounds fair to me.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Satan will finally find his true home with the Devils.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | March 3, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Jump on Satan, waive Nylander. Damned NTC...

Posted by: Greg S. | March 3, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

im not sold on morris.

only Jovo has a higher +/- rating for phoneix d men. Let's get Klee again. talk about shutdown defense.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Is Morris an upgrade over anyone, though?

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | March 3, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Gary Roberts on waivers too? Interesting.

Posted by: mauree | March 3, 2009 12:34 PM

yeah, i hope this isnt his last year. (it probably is.) I love Roberts.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Brendan Morrison has been put on waivers by ANA as well according to Dreger.

Posted by: ThePat | March 3, 2009 12:34 PM

get on it GMGM...

also; Sim was waivered.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Morris > Schultz, Morrison, Kronwall, or Erskine

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | March 3, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh no! The Wild signed Backstrom? We are doomed. Well, I guess I can live with this year of a huge turn around for the team, though limitations will prevent us from going as far as we could.

I wonder if the Caps ever had a stellar goalie--the kind that consistently rates among the top five. This may be a blind spot in their team-building strategy. The only games that were not frustrating in terms of goal-keeping to me where those with Huet in goal.

Is there another top goalie on the market? What does everybody think of Manny Fernandez? Isn't Nikolai Khabibulin available also?

I am heartbroken about Backs.

Posted by: caraveli | March 3, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Waivers for everyone! Geez. Talk about your lunch rush.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | March 3, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

fernandez aint available and khabi isnt much better than theo.

do you really think huet is a top 5 goalie?

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Yep - he got Huet money from the Wild. That means Gaborik won't be resigned - they can't afford him.

Will they shop him now that they've got Backstrom signed? Or do the Wild try and push for the playoffs this year?

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Peter Olvecky, Craig Adams, and Erik Reitz all waived.

Corey Perrin waived.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

gaborik = a walking groin injury. they probably made the right decision in choosing backstrom over gabby.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

@jmu

Maybe Club Scarlet can have a lumberjack pose-off [fingers crossed]

Ooh, and I hope Morris makes it in time to compete for the 08-09 Club Scarlet centerfold!

now how did my tongue get stuck in my cheek like that?

Posted by: austinsteve | March 3, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

they need to rename this to the 2008-09 Waiver Deadline.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

also, i highly doubt any trades are going to be announced tonight.

24 teams play tonight. No one is going to make any big moves.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

With a NMC, I don't think Nyls is going anywhere. It's be traded to another team (leaving his large family behind in MD) and probably play for a below average team & out o the playoffs or stay with the Caps and practice, watch your team play and collect your paycheck. Remember, last year Johnny was placed on the shelve for the rest of the year when Huet arrived. He came back this year determined and played well.

BB sitting Erskine instead of Schultz??? I bet JS55 still gets Top 4 minutes and is on the PK. So much for holding players accountable. Not to say BB is not a very good coach but he does have some faults (who doesn't?). #55 is not a bum and is not a terrible player, IMO I think he has slightly improved since coming up from Hershey in 06/07. I'm tired of hearing about his +16. Let's put Jurcina out there with the #1 line and Green for the rest of the season. It would be a good bet that his +3 improves to say +13.

Sometimes it's better to review things from afar then from under your nose.

Posted by: puckman | March 3, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Only a losing record against Philly. 17-5-4 overall against Eastern Conference Playoff teams. And some of you want to press the panic button?"

--Excellent post SombreroGuy. I just don't get the mindsets of way too many Caps fans. Obviously a lot of them haven't been around long, if they're agonizing over this season, one of the best in franchise history.

40 wins, one of the best records in hockey, a loaded lineup and an award winning coach, and many fans are convinced we're going nowhere unless we trade for so-and-so or unless this improves, or that changes.

Sure, the team has areas that could use improvement. Sure, they have bad games and off nights. But all NHL teams have issues like that. Amazing how despite how awful the Caps are in some areas, they've still managed to somehow stumble their way to 40 wins so far!!!??

GO CAPS!


Posted by: jollyroger2 | March 3, 2009 12:46 PM


Enough with the logic already...

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269562

Approximately three quarters of the NHL has just been placed on waivers.

Ok, not really, but it seems like a heck of a lot.

Posted by: ModestProposal | March 3, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Poor Gerber...LOL.

Ottawa has been bouncing him through waivers in an effort for a team to pick him up.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Sean Avery ( waived by DAL) - Claimed by NYR

Lawrence Nycholat (waived by VAN) - Claimed by CGY

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

austinsteve, Ooooooohhhh, a lumberjack pose-off! I'm so excited! *squee!*
Morris? Are you kidding me? (I was about to write him off as a "no contest", but then I looked him up.) He might give Johnny some competition in the "Former Frat Boy look-alike" contest. Actually, the sunglasses pose he has on the 'Yotes site might actually make a good Scarlet Caps desktop background!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | March 3, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love how the Pens put Satan on waivers for only 17g's & 19a's = 36 pts in 64 games. Not all-star level, but not dogfood either. The rationale: he doesn't fit well with the prima donna Crysbaby. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Crysbaby is cancerous -- love it!

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | March 3, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

TSN Reports:

Gretzky from Edmonton to LA Kings

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

actually satan going was pretty much solidified when kunitz came aboard.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

So who (if any) of these waivers would you all like to see? I wouldn't mind picking up Roberts

Posted by: superpaqman | March 3, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

crosby, gonchar to WASH for ovechkin, green

eklund reporting.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Alright folks, have fun with your armchair GMing. The job scouts are in town and I've got to impress them enough not to trade me to Philly or Edmonton. :-P Hopefully back in time for the game.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | March 3, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Chatter Chatter Chatter

Not much will get done today with regard to the CAPS. Partners with desired targets will wait until very close to the deadline to maximize their leverage and see which team (CAPS, Boston, Flyers) will blink first and give them the best deal.

It's the nature of negotiations.

Posted by: TrackCollector | March 3, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom wouldn't really be a good fit here as the Caps don't need another starting goalie, they need an experienced back-up, and there are some out there that can be had (Moose Hedberg, Martin Gerber, Manny Legace, etc.) Personally, with Varlamov and/or Neuvirth playing the way they have when they've been in there, I don't see a need for a long-term goaltender (which is what Backstrom would have been if the Caps would have traded for him).

I'm more interested in what GMGM is going to do to shore up the back line. Morris is a nice player, but hopefully they won't overspend for him. He's worth a 2nd-4th round draft pick and/or maybe a mid-level prospect (Tyler Sloan maybe). Morris is also a UFA, so Phoenix will take what they can get for him.

Posted by: MikeL-Caps91 | March 3, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Remember playing the Canes used to be a big deal...I love that we aren't even giving them the time of day now!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

ek,ek,ek,ek

he makes that sound when you see him in person.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 3, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@TrackCollector

That could work for us too though.. If we force Boston or Philly to give up too much like the Sox/ankees offseason wars of the past 50 years or so.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Now that is a great observation, if any 'Canes fans visited our blog, they would be insulted.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 3, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Playing the Canes is big deal, not to sprint pat them for a playoff spot, but to banish the memories of that stinker against Florida and to keep pace with the Devils and Bruins.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | March 3, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Big game for them - still in the hunt for spot 8

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind picking up Miro Satan to play with Semin on our second line.

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Kozlov
Satan-Fedorov-Semin

That would be a pretty terrifying first two lines - especially if Satan clicks with Fed's and Semin. Plus this gives us flexibility if we need to trade Fleishman. Any chance of this happening?

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

The 'Canes blog is running a contest to see who score first. Win something if you guess correctly.

I'm gonno go put up Semin as my choice.

That'll get 'em going.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 3, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm looking for discipline tonight - no more giving away 60-70 penalties in a game!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Not likely with Satan @ 3.5 mil. The Caps would have to move someone's salary to make it happen.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | March 3, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

With all those folks on waivers, are there gonna be enough players for all of tonight's games?

And Please, Oh Please can The Devils pick up Satan! Give him number 666 and that will even be scarier than Marty coming back and getting a shut out in 2 of three games.

Posted by: TheCapitalist1 | March 3, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Plus those Russians celebrate like soccer players

Posted by: austinsteve | March 3, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Is Pittsburg clearing cap room for a bigger name?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

That would be a pretty terrifying first two lines - especially if Satan clicks with Fed's and Semin. Plus this gives us flexibility if we need to trade Fleishman. Any chance of this happening?

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 1:11 PM

Fleischmann is a low cost winger who's signed through next year. I wouldn't trade him (in essence) for a guy who's 10 years older and makes 5 times as much for the same production.

Posted by: Section117 | March 3, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Devils G Scott Clemmensen carried the team for 50 games, only to be shipped to the minors when Martin Brodeur returned from injury. A team with goaltending issues, like Detroit and Philadelphia, would surely make inquires.

How bout the Caps? Make it happen GMGM!

Posted by: TracyMD1 | March 3, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Satan isn't Russian, but a Slovak

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | March 3, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Why would NJ trade Clemmensen to a conference competitor? C'mon now...

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

@jimallcaps

Shhh!

I research my wisecracks very carefully, must be a typo.
:)

Posted by: austinsteve | March 3, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

TSN Rankings:

Caps are 4th:
If there were concerns about the defence and goaltending going into the deadline, those points were just hammered home in the 6-2 home loss to the Panthers on Sunday. With all the firepower the Caps have, it would be a shame not to tighten up with at least a proven D-man.


A-M-E-N!!!!!!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom being signed doesn't necessarily mean he won't be traded. He's actually much more of an asset now for a team that gets him because he won't just be a rental. The Wild still needs to do something with Gaborik.

Other goalies that still might be available are Kari Lehtonen, Manny Fernandez & Pascal LeClaire.

Atlanta is trying to make room for Ondrej Pavelec.

Boston is OK with trading Manny because they have an NHL ready Tuuka Rask.

Columbus is trying to ship out LeClaire because of the emergence of Steve Mason.

LeClaire had a great first season (a la Mason), but tanked this year and is now out for the rest of the season with injury, so he wouldn't help us now. The other 2 we might make a play for.

Someone above said that Khabi isn't much better than Theo. Was that a joke? I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. Khabi was considered an elite goalie for many years, won the Cup with Tampa and has been back to his best this season, which is why Chicago haven't traded him. They signed Huet as their new #1, but Khabi has played so well that Huet's been used as a backup. The only reason he's been getting games recently is because Khabi is injured.

Lastly, someone above called Gaborik a walking injury. Look deeper. The reason Gaborik opted to have another surgery this year (against Minnesota's GM's wishes) is because he wanted to fix the chronic problem once and for all. It's now fixed. He says that he feels better than ever. When healthy Gaborik is an elite player. As good a winger as there is in the NHL. Youtube his 5-goal game for a glimpse, if you haven't seen much of him. I don't think we're in play for him, but if we did get him somehow our offense would be absolutely sick.

Posted by: ranndino | March 3, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Is it seeming Pittsburg's dumping bigtime?

Wouldn't it be "funny" if they took Pronger?
:)

Posted by: austinsteve | March 3, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Canes fans will be insulted by this blog if the Caps overlook them and get beat tonight.

I agree, Gary Roberts would be a great acquisition for the Caps, he could play limited minutes but definitely add some grit to the team.

I remember in Winnipeg when Kris King and Tie Domi came via a trade, the entire Jets team played a foot taller. I think a solid hockey player like Roberts could have the same effect for the Caps.

Posted by: bigschu8 | March 3, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey Austinsteve, We all know that Satan must come from Eastern Europe, but not Mother Russia, which has bequethed the Caps OV, Semin, Kozlov, and Federov.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | March 3, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I don't think we're in play for him, but if we did get him somehow our offense would be absolutely sick.

Yeah, our offense needs a lot of work...

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

They can't get rid of Khabi because he comes with a 7+ mil price tag. He has played well this year, but he isn't a top 5 goalie.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

TSN Reports:

The Caps have reacquired the Limousine Crew; Scott Stevens, Neil Sheehy, Dino Ciccarelli and Geoff Courtnal. Waived are Milan Jurcina, Shaone Morrisonn, David Steckel and Boyd Gordon.

Now were set for the playoffs! Added some grit will put us through the conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1smxdTrYuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RluORc-xr4w

Posted by: puckman | March 3, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Unrelated to the Caps. I caught a part of the Pens - Stars game the other night and Malkin was absolutely sick and the team looked great. Isn't it interesting that the Pens play better without Crosby? They're 5-1 under the new coach and Crosby has missed the last 3. Same thing happened last year when they made a great run while Crosby was out. You can see it in the eyes of other Pens players how much better they like Geno. Malkin was also the most physical I've ever seen him. The guy can do some serious damage if he decides to with his size and speed. He absolutely crushed a couple of Dallas players.

Maybe the Pens should start shopping Crosby around :)

Posted by: ranndino | March 3, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovi should extend his arms like a plane and swoop around the rink when he scores. Like a wEagle

I would totally do it in the playoffs if I were him in honor of DC. And D.C.!

Posted by: austinsteve | March 3, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Empty Netters Says: Great move by the Wild. Their biggest name, Marian Gaborik is a good as gone this offseason as a free agent. Backstrom now becomes their defacto franchise player and hanging on to him sends a good message to the fan base and other potential free agents that the team is committed to winning. And Backstrom's just a very good player. Granted, he plays for a team which is very defensive, but he's a very talented player. The Wild will be a playoff contender for the next four years with Backstrom in net.


Where Gaborik will end up? Caps? Is he a left wing?

Posted by: CodePoetry | March 3, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I did not realize until today that we have not had a single shut out this season. This is a major problem in my eyes. GMGM better do something.

Posted by: ERHDC1 | March 3, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

We should trade for Bryzgalov.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

theo has a shutout

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

And Backstrom's just a very good player. Granted, he plays for a team which is very defensive, but he's a very talented player.

He would have worked so well in our defensive minded system.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

@ Puckman

Hysterical...now that the teenage girl is an adult we should sign her too...I'm sure she could hit more than Shultz!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

@ERHDC1

UH..
Canadiens VS Capitals 0 - 3 W Fri Nov 28, 2008

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Sorry i may have crossed the line...I apologize

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

theo shutout the Canadiens... I believe. That's a major problem?

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow a whole one. I am going to be annoyed if we trade for more offense over defense

Posted by: ERHDC1 | March 3, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I think Ovi should extend his arms like a plane and swoop around the rink when he scores. Like a wEagle

Posted by: austinsteve | March 3, 2009 1:30 PM

what a visaul
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
it probably would give cherry a heart attack

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 3, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

they have already repeated a million times that they are not giving up fernandez.

look deeper? how does "looking deeper" change the past? I would love to learn your mystified technique of "looking deeper" to alter the past. oh yeah, just so you know, gaborik says he feels better this time every time. im fully aware of how good gaborik is, look deeper. we cant afford him.

khabi isnt much better than theo. and given the price, id much rather have theo. khabi has been considered an elite goaltender for years? thats a laugh. he won one cup and has never reached that level of play until arguably this year. and besides the cup year, he's done horrible in the playoffs. yeah, real elite goaltender there. and his only gold medals come from when he didnt play, how strange.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Theo's problems are big fat juicy rebounds, and the fact that the defense in front of him sucks.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

We should trade for Bryzgalov.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 1:40 PM

i know you are being sarcastic, but i love bryzzy. dont tempt me.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 3, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Pens odds tonight just got better. Sidney and his mystery groin will not be playing tonight. Poor Bolts.

Posted by: _Mark | March 3, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Thought I'd add to the fun; from cbssportsline:

Is Bill Guerin in a holding pattern because of the Washington Capitals?

The New York Islanders came to an agreement with the Capitals, but are reportedly waiting for Washington to move Michael Nylander to free up the cap space needed to acquire Guerin, says the Ottawa Sun. Nylander, however, has a no-movement clause and has not offered to waive it.

The Sun says the deal may actually be a package deal which includes veteran center Doug Weight.

The trade deadline is so much fun

Posted by: KAS2 | March 3, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

it probably would give cherry a heart attack

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

Sounds like a plan to me!! :-o

Posted by: CapsKH | March 3, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

@ERHDC1 -

Theo shut out Montreal on 11/28

Posted by: SombreroGuy | March 3, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

A little off topic, but did everyone see that TSN has OV and Green as the top 2 players in their fantasty power rankings? Semin is 7, meaning we have 3 of the top 10 ranked players in the league. Imagine if Semin would stop taking penalties. We'd probably have 3 of the top 5. We are not many pieces away people.

http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=10467&lid=sublink08&lpos=topRelated_tradecentre

Posted by: Beggarsandthieves | March 3, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I think we have enough pieces already - just got to get them all working well during the playoffs.

Posted by: mikebrady1 | March 3, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@Section117

Satan would be picked up on waivers - not traded for Fleishman. You replace Fleishman with Satan and use Fleishman's value (pretty high right now) to bring in a dman like Morris, Kaberle, or Pronger.

In regards to the cap comments - we still need a back door to shove Nylander out of...

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I read some where that a team is very similar to its fans that support the team. Look at Philly - their fans are pretty violent and the team itself is pretty violent. There is a similarity there.

Now, I got to thinking... maybe, just maybe, if people stopped posting stupid comments - the players would stop taking stupid penalties.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

So if you believe the chatter, it appears the Caps are trying to get Morris and Guerin in and Nylander out.

Lets remember last year though - all three trades (Feds, Cooke, and Huet) were completely off everyone's radar.

Posted by: stormblue | March 3, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

As I said before, it is a three team trade; Nyls' NMC is not in the way as GMGM knows that he will accept a trade. He also not the major piece of the deal (sort of we will take him off your hands but we want this). The trade is stuck because of the thrid team that has to work up their numbers....
I still think it won't happen...

Posted by: atybat | March 3, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

For your reading pleasure.

There IS a game tonight, yaknow.

http://capitals.nhl.com/ext/Game_notes/0809/030309_vsCAR_GameNotes.pdf

Posted by: WhyGo | March 3, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

828, I totally agree

Posted by: superpaqman | March 3, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Patrone,
We would have to unload someone before we could bring in Satan. I don't think we should get him anyway, but we are at the 50 player limit and would have to get rid of someone to bring him in off waivers.

Posted by: _Mark | March 3, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

What can anyone here tell me about this Morris character?

Posted by: superpaqman | March 3, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

@Section117

Satan would be picked up on waivers - not traded for Fleishman. You replace Fleishman with Satan and use Fleishman's value (pretty high right now) to bring in a dman like Morris, Kaberle, or Pronger.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:00 PM

If Fleischmann's value is pretty high, then why would you trade him for a defenseman that you can't afford?

Moreover if that's done, you've just given yourself a problem because now you've got 3 forwards who are all Top 2 line caliber who are going to be UFA at the end of the year, when your forward prospects haven't seen too much time with the big club this year.

And let's not forget, the reason why Satan went to Pittsburgh is because they overpaid for someone last year, he left, and the team had to scramble to sign bodies to fill roster spots.

Posted by: Section117 | March 3, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

@_Mark

See my last comment about finding a back door for Nylander...

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 828 - after that last post we are down to only 7 penalties tonight:)

Posted by: capsfansince74 | March 3, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

@117

"the reason why Satan went to Pittsburgh is because they overpaid for someone last year, he left, and the team had to scramble to sign bodies to fill roster spots."

Abso-FREAKIN-lutely

This is what I have been saying, we do not want to screw ourselves over giving up too much for a guy who will end up opting to go somewhere else after the year is over.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

@Section117

Once Nylander is gone you can afford the defenseman. Nylander eats up 5.5M in cap space. Kaberle is 4.25M, Morris is $4M, Pronger is $6.25M.

You have 3 2nd line forwards in UFA - but how many of them do we want back? 1 or 2 tops. I doubt we retain Feds for $4M next year - he's a great influence but there is better talent available for the money. We obviously want Kozy back - but do we negotiate with Satan or let him go? We do have some NHL ready wings in Hershey.

I doubt this will happen - but it does make sense.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

@828 - Best comment of the day haha

Posted by: SombreroGuy | March 3, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

@Dizzy1205

We don't give anything up (except Nylander who we're begging someone to take already) for Satan. He's on waivers right now from Pitt.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to the Wild GM, a very smart move by him to keep Backstrom, afterall, he is the reason why the Wild are not last in the conference. I guess I'll just have to learn to like Jose until he's outta here.

Posted by: rachel216 | March 3, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

@patrone

I still dont see the need. Why do we add additional money to our roster for offense of which we are not hurting for?

It just doesnt make sense. I personally would buy a Satan jersey just because if he came here but I just dont see why we need to pick him up.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The Caps dont need Satan, they have enough offence but Roberts would add grit, leadership and playoff experience. How much does he cost?

Posted by: bigschu8 | March 3, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Once Nylander is gone you can afford the defenseman. Nylander eats up 5.5M in cap space. Kaberle is 4.25M, Morris is $4M, Pronger is $6.25M.

I know what the numbers are, but you're attaching a big "IF" at the front of that. He's not going to waive the NMC unless it's beneficial to him and his family, and buying him out is a problem because that stays on your cap (see Clymer, Ben).

You have 3 2nd line forwards in UFA - but how many of them do we want back? 1 or 2 tops. I doubt we retain Feds for $4M next year - he's a great influence but there is better talent available for the money. We obviously want Kozy back - but do we negotiate with Satan or let him go? We do have some NHL ready wings in Hershey.

Let's say for the sake of argument that Satan wants the same money. So does Kozlov. Now you've replaced Fedorov for Satan and saved only $500k, when you'll have (conservatively) 6 RFAs that you're seriously considering re-signing/extending offers to.

And as for the Bears, I'd much prefer to ease them in rather than throw them to the wolves, but that's my personal preference.

Posted by: Section117 | March 3, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world would the Caps want Satan, a Penguins castoff? There is no hole on the Caps roster that he could fill, IMHO. He's neither a D-man, nor a veteran backup goalie nor a physical crash-the-net forward. I wonder if some people are blinded by the glitter of this once sparkling, but now tarnished, gem.

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

@AleksanderOMunchkin

That name is almost as funny as BoydGordon_Shootout_specialist or however it was spelled.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

@Dizzy1205

I think you are missing my over-arching point here.

We don't absolutly need him - no. However, if we need to let go of Fleishman to bring in a quality defenseman - Satan is a very good replacement. He can also add playoff experience to a pretty young team.

This is more about adding D then adding Satan. I'm assuming that we're going to have to let go a roster player (in addition to Nylander) to bring a quality defenseman in. At this point, it seems as if Fleishman has the highest trade value for both the caps and other teams. With Satan available, he's pretty easy to replace without loosing too much offensive firepower.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

i heard that ryan malone may be on the block. wouldn't mind picking him up, but i think his cap hit may be too much

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder says "sign Satan now!"

Posted by: Baildog | March 3, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Satan will finally find his true home with the Devils.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | March 3, 2009 12:35 PM

@ccCapsfan: Satan to NJD...I can see the headlines now:

"Satan, Devils burn Rangers Again"

"Satan steals Penguin's sould in OT win"

And if he ever became the GM in NJ:

"Satan, Devils ink #6 pick to 6-year, $6M pact.

LOL

Posted by: Rhino40 | March 3, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know how those "No Movement" clauses work?
I mean, is it even possible for us to waive Nylander?

Posted by: pmoravek | March 3, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

@Dizzy
The name refers to my 10-month old who is also named Aleksander. And no, he was not named after Ovechkin.

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

please remember we can't pick someone up w/ out dropping someone due to the limit of 50 players w/ NHL contracts.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | March 3, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Satan - nope!

Our offense is just fine - the last thing we need is another forward that does not backcheck.

We need grit and leadership - AKA Hunter, Tikanen, Langway, Roberts, Pronger, Morris.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

@ AleksanderOMunchkin

Satan is a tarnished gem - but he's still a gem. Pitt has him playing on a line with the cry baby. They also have him playing in an offensive system that stifles his natural talent. I really think that BB's "let em fly" style will do wonders for Satan.

@Section117
I don't want to re-sign Satan. Let him go UFA in the off season. I think there will be better/cheaper talent available in the off season. However, right now, for a cup run, this is a good move.

As for Hershey, Giroux is NHL ready and will take over Fed's spot (more likely he'll take over Laich's spot and Laich will be a 2nd line center) next year. Osala, Mink, and Aucoin are ready - I think one of them could step up in training camp and claim the spot vacated by Nylander.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to start a petition that Ovi fly around the rink with arms outstretched after the next (meaningful) goal he scores

I think it would be a hugely successful response to recent remarks

Posted by: austinsteve | March 3, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I meant vacated by Satan - not Nylander. Doh!

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

@griffin13 & jmu_capsgirl (from previous post)

You can cut a player anytime you want as you are seeing today and the CBA reads that when a player is cut the salary cap hit is 1/2 of the money owed on the remaining contract and extended for double the time. So for example with Nylander, I believe he has 2 years left and the remainder of his contract is $8M, so if we cut him today then our cap hit would be $4M (1/2 the money) over 4 yrs (double the term left) which is $1M a year. The problem with doing this though is that if somebody picks him up off waivers then we have to pay 1/2 his contract for the remaining term so then we're on the hook for $2.5M next year and $1.5M the following year. Somebody would certainly pick him up off waivers knowing that THEY only have to pay him 1/2 as well. $2.5M sucks for us as it's dead money but is great for the team picking him up b/c while he isn't working out here, Nylander is a good pickup at $2.5M and $1.5M for the next 2 years. I think if we knew that nobody would pick him up we would have already cut him but somebody will get him at those numbers for sure. Hope that clears it up for you guys.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 3, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Well it was redundant to have Crosby and Satan on the same team.

Posted by: RichC3 | March 3, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Who are we playing tonight? lol

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

All this anticipation is killing me! I need to hear some news! What if we do nothing at all? lol.

Posted by: rachel216 | March 3, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Looking at that game preview: Backstrom has the same amount of assists, 51, as the leading scorer for Carolina has points. Ray Whitney at 51, and Eric Staal at 49. What an awful year it has been for Staal; I think that team really misses Erik Cole.

Posted by: reesem37 | March 3, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Besides you cant bring Satan here.. we already have Jesus on Skates. I just dont think that would go over very well.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to re-sign Satan. Let him go UFA in the off season. I think there will be better/cheaper talent available in the off season.

This is what Ray Shero was thinking last offseason. How's it working out for him?

However, right now, for a cup run, this is a good move.

Wouldn't a better move be to let the forwards continue to mature to the point where they're consistent 20-30 goal scorers, rather than bring in costlier retreads?

As for Hershey, Giroux is NHL ready and will take over Fed's spot (more likely he'll take over Laich's spot and Laich will be a 2nd line center) next year. Osala, Mink, and Aucoin are ready - I think one of them could step up in training camp and claim the spot vacated by Nylander.

I know how many people fawn over them, but let's face facts here; Giroux, Mink and Aucoin are all between 27-30 years of age, and (I think) played less than 100 games in the NHL combined. If they play regular minutes next year, then Crash Davis should be the GM.

Posted by: Section117 | March 3, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The Calgary Flames added some defensive depth via the waiver wire Tuesday when they claimed Lawrence Nycholat from the Vancouver Canucks.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

guys who cares if back is singed wes till got theo and plus if backy were to coem hier it woudl be hard for him ot adjust wit teh washingtin offence cues in minny they plya trap deffence hier we go full out offence so jus think about it guys. and plus why ru gusy loseing hope on theo he has done really well this year and he is coeming of a really good seaon record wise so lets jsu cher him ona nd nah lose hope on him this is were he needs us most come on guys why u loseing hope on u own goalie

Posted by: rahul_rayray60 | March 3, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

that post hurt my brain

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

@Section117

Shero had his heart set on re-signing Hossa and it fell through. By the time he went to the market most of the talent was gone. He was also hindered by the fact that most of his salery cap is tied up in Crosby, Malkin, and Fluery. The caps shouldn't have this problem next year.

I think you are still missing the point. You've got to give up good players to get good players. It would be great to let Fleishman mature in to that type of player - but we need a solid defenseman now. What do you propose offering for that defenseman? Or do you think we stand pat?

Giroux, Mink and Aucoin are NHL ready. If they were in most other teams farm systems, they'd be roster players already. As it is, Giroux and Mink are UFA's at the end of this season. They will be given their shot at a roster spot or they won't be re-signing with Washington.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow....I've lost all hope in the American school system.

Posted by: reesem37 | March 3, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

How about a new rule on here? "You cannot say anything about the Caps acquiring any new players, whether by waiver wire or by trade, unless you also explain how that player would fit on the roster. You must explain how you would adjust the cap, roster and lines to accomodate said acquisition."

Considering the level of most of these discussions, that would take care of 99% of it.

Posted by: waitingsince75 | March 3, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Ha!

I feel bad for him/her/it.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Rahul Re Re,
That was a brutal post. The first attempted sentence wiped me out.

Posted by: _Mark | March 3, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"guys who cares if back is singed wes till got theo and plus if backy were to coem hier it woudl be hard for him ot adjust wit teh washingtin offence cues in minny they plya trap deffence hier we go full out offence so jus think about it guys. and plus why ru gusy loseing hope on theo he has done really well this year and he is coeming of a really good seaon record wise so lets jsu cher him ona nd nah lose hope on him this is were he needs us most come on guys why u loseing hope on u own goalie"


That gave me a headache.

Posted by: LA_caps_fan | March 3, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

@patrone
Giroux, Mink and Aucoin are NHL ready. If they were in most other teams farm systems, they'd be roster players already.

Wrong. I am glad you are not our GM. History is full of AHL lifers; guys who had a great AHL career but never contributed to the NHL. Giroux, Aucoin will be all but forgotten in a few years. Fact of the matter, Caps will resign Fedorov and if he stays healthy, we have our 1st and second line center for next year. Otherwise, Nyls would be used differently.
No one else in Hershey or with the Caps has the potentiel to be a second-line center in 2009-2010. Gustaffson is the next really good NHL prospect that the Caps have.
If you don't believe me, talk to GMGM.

Posted by: atybat | March 3, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

You guys think we might able to lure Patrick Roy out of retirement? Or how bout Felix Potvin, or Eddie the Eagle.

Posted by: reesem37 | March 3, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Patrone - Giroux and Mink (and Aucoin) are AHL players. They are what they are. The are not NHL ready because they are not NHL players. Just like everyone's favorite player Quentin Laing.

Posted by: waitingsince75 | March 3, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I am now bleeding from the eyes and ears (and I thought my spelling was bad)

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I think Osala could be the real deal, but he's a wing right?

Posted by: reesem37 | March 3, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm typing this from my backup laptop because when I put that post into babelfish to translate it, my computer burst into flames.

Posted by: ModestProposal | March 3, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I am liking you more with eery post atybat. BTW - what does atybat mean?

Posted by: waitingsince75 | March 3, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

atybat,
That is what I have been saying all along. If we move Nyls and Feds doesn't come back, our depth suddenly disppears with respect to second line center. We have some good centers that we can fall back on, but the drop from Nicky to them seems pretty big.

Posted by: _Mark | March 3, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

But from what I have been reading BB doesn't want to use Nyls. As in he doesn't fit into BB's system. Kind of puts you in between a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

@atybat

We'll see at the end of this year. I bet at least Giroux will either be a caps roster player or a roster player on another team before the end of next years season.

@waitingsince75
Quentin Laing? Ouch! That was a low blow! That still hurts.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

@patrone

"Quentin Laing? Ouch! That was a low blow! That still hurts"

It hurts me every time we give up a freaking goal trying to kill a penalty.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

TSN:

The Philadelphia Flyers are stepping up their efforts to acquire defenceman Jay Bouwmeester from the Florida Panthers, but salary cap constraints are rearing their ugly head.

The Flyers are bumping up against the cap and they are working hard to try to free up some space.

Sources say one of the options is trading goaltender Marty Biron and turning the number one job over to Antero Niittymaki. One potential scenario has the Flyers trading Biron to the Phoenix Coyotes as part of a plan that would see the Coyotes flip Biron to another team.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm swimming in a sea of emotion...

Posted by: superpaqman | March 3, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Scott Walker has been reactivated from IR.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Patrone - The truth hurts.

I would take my chances on resigning Feds. Get rid of Nyls and if Feds doesn't re-sign, I still think Laich can be a second line center. If not then hit the market.

Posted by: waitingsince75 | March 3, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Shero had his heart set on re-signing Hossa and it fell through. By the time he went to the market most of the talent was gone. He was also hindered by the fact that most of his salery cap is tied up in Crosby, Malkin, and Fluery. The caps shouldn't have this problem next year.

Shero went for a highly coveted UFA, got burnt, and had to cover in the following year with retreads who are taking up chunks of space. Why would you do the same thing, but with AHL veterans?

I think you are still missing the point. You've got to give up good players to get good players. It would be great to let Fleishman mature in to that type of player - but we need a solid defenseman now. What do you propose offering for that defenseman? Or do you think we stand pat?

Well here's a thought; why mortgage the future on a Cup run for 1 year? Take a look at what was given up last year; Eminger, a 2nd rounder and a prospect who by some accounts isn't going to turn into anything special. All of these things are assets that the organization felt they could part with. Low risk, decent reward.

Why would you all of a suddent ramp it up and give away an asset in an area where you're a little thin? And again, Giroux, Mink and Aucoin are ready because they've had their chances and not done anything with them.

That said, the only guys on the current roster I'd strongly consider trading are Jurcina and ShaMo because of the D depth in Hershey, which is a heckuva better investment that the forwards you've mentioned.

@Waiting:

+1 to your rule. It's been done in 30 other locations right now as it is.

Posted by: Section117 | March 3, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Home Ice on XM radio is saying that the Caps are definitely NOT trying to make a deal for Guerin.

Posted by: AleksanderOMunchkin | March 3, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

*mutters* Where's JSchon when you need him. That post has GOT to be a fineable offense. Say, $100 for any post constructed without the aid of a shift key?

Posted by: kittypawz | March 3, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"Giroux, Mink and Aucoin are NHL ready. If they were in most other teams farm systems, they'd be roster players already.
"

I think Giroux is the only one with a decent chance of making the NHL. If the Caps gave him the same opportunity we have been giving Fleishman, I think he would flourish. Bringing Giroux up for a few games here and there isn't a fair shake.

Posted by: honker | March 3, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I know we are all about speculating what tomorrow will bring, but does anyone know who will be in goal tonight?

Posted by: Kim-3 | March 3, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

@Kim-3

I believe Theo

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | March 3, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Giroux proved earlier in the season that he cannot play in the NHL yet - he was getting manhandled out there, especially along the boards. Needs to bulk up and learn how to play tougher.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Thanks! He could use a great game tonight.

Posted by: Kim-3 | March 3, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

pokerface1208, That would be true with a player that does not have a NMC. But since Nyls has one, he cannot just be waived (cut) like everyone else has been today. He would have to be traded to another team of his choosing, agree to be put on waivers, be bought out, or elect to go on waivers instead of a buy-out. He can't just be cut; unfortunately, this isn't the NFL. (Or maybe that's fortunately) A buy-out of a player when the contract was signed before their 35th birthday is 2/3, but over 35 is the whole thing. Nyls was 34 when he signed his contract with the Caps.
Article 11, Section 8, Part b, Page 48. http://www.nhl.com/cba/2005-CBA.pdf

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | March 3, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Could someone please enlighten me?
What happens to the salary cap if Nylanders is just let go?
Or put on wavers?
Is GMGM hoping for some return - such as a 5th round draft pick?

Posted by: johnbear1 | March 3, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

guys why r u loseing hope on theo like he has been playing his heart out this year trying to prove him self but u guys jus keep putting him down.... by saying either he wont do gus in the playoffs or by saying its over for us we are nah ganna win a game in the play offfsss why dun u just wait and see and hope for the best. wat happens if we win teh cup then wat? like we are susposed to encourge him insaid we are saying and talkin about if we had a diffrent goalie. we are thrid in the conference and he has most of our wins and now if ur telling me they were all bad games look again most of them late in teh season have been clutch wins and great games by him so why dunt u guys let him do his job and see wat happens in the playoff.
let him do his job what he has been doing. gmgm was not stupid to sign him he signed him for a reson and its paying off so far wather last year we were struggleing at this time now we are in teh playoff so think about it

Posted by: rahul_rayray60 | March 3, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

ahhhh - brain freeze again rahul

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

GMGM screwed up by signing Nyls to that contract. I guess Nyls is now holding GMGM's feet to the fire and trying to get released and his contract bought out. He has pretty much worn out his welcome if he is blocking a trade for whoever GMGM is trying to get. Why stay where you aren't wanted?

Posted by: FusilliJerry1 | March 3, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

holy run on sentence batman!, jk

Posted by: ludeman95 | March 3, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

It's called "spell check"...use it...pleeeease!

Posted by: CapsKH | March 3, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

@lylewimbledon

Giroux would have scored at least 3 goals during his stint if he (or recently any of the caps actually) could finish a breakaway. I seem to remember him getting several breakaways and not finishing. I don't remember him being out of place at all.

Posted by: patrone | March 3, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

hahaha...I agree with you rahul. I think Theo is just fine, and if he gets hot can lead us deep into the playoffs. This team does not need a goalie. It needs some brain transplants to some of our better players who constantly take moronic stick infractions, and a veteran presence, prefereably on the blue line.

Posted by: reesem37 | March 3, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

@rahul_rayray60

rino fertada?

Please tell me you are writing your posts using a blackberry or some other similarly small, difficult-to-type-with device.

Posted by: cainoo7x | March 3, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

GMGM did not screw up singing Nyls. At the time, it was a good move. However, the Caps have a different system and a different coach. Things change - Nyls may work else where... who knows, maybe he will pick up his game if he comes back.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

@Patrone

Didn't say he was out of place...said he could not compete yet physically. He was getting pushed off the puck or over way too much.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | March 3, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

oops - rahul_rayray60 has got me all screwed up! signing not singing.

Posted by: _828 | March 3, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

i've been feeding GMGM the info he needs for weeks and weeks now. no moves - let's see where this mini train wreck we're calling a defense will take us this year. in the off season we start looking for a better than average S@H D that can't stand the team he is currently on. he can be lured here with the promises of covering for some of our seasoning young Dmen.
this is the plan i have laid out - and ted has my back on this one

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 3, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

People - Nylander can not be waived. No MOVEMENT clause.

Only option is to buy him out after the season, or convince him to accept a trade, and convince a team to trade for him.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | March 3, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Well it was redundant to have Crosby and Satan on the same team.

Posted by: RichC3 | March 3, 2009 2:54 PM


very pucking punny

Posted by: TheCapitalist1 | March 3, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

hey sombreroguy, where has the sombrero been?

Posted by: _stevo | March 3, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

_828:
i think i said something along the lines that GMG probably wasn't to proud about signing nlys - i didn't mean at the time it was made (as it was the right one then) but how it is turning out now. i'm not a nlys hater - i'd actually be happy if he could find some chemistry with some of the other forwards - he still has something left to contribute somewhere - for some reason it is just not here

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 3, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The Nyls signing was important because he was the first noteworthy free agent to CHOOSE to come to Washington, signifying a step forward in the rebuild. Nyls was a perfect player for Hanlon's system, but has not meshed well with Bruce.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | March 3, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Randinno WHAT do you mean? "Backstrom being signed doesn't necessarily mean he won't be traded. He's actually much more of an asset now for a team that gets him because he won't just be a rental." Has it ever happened--signing someone so they can trade him? Is there still hope?

Has anyone heard of the possibility of any of the goaltending prospects being traded? Here is one thought on the subject:

"On one hand, keeping both Varlamov and Neuvirth significantly increases the odds of the team having a homegrown number one goalie on the roster since it's unlikely both will wind up busts and goaltending tandems seem to be on the rise. On the other hand, young goaltenders are so valuable that holding two of them rather than moving one to shore up other areas may not be great asset management." Washington Hockey Daily
http://www.japersrink.com/2009/3/3/774901/trade-deadline-prospects-u

And of course Khabi is better than Theo--certainly in terms of consistency and overall performance. Except for one year with the Blackhawks (2005-6) he has posted a save percentage rate of over 90% since 1995. His playoff record is also quite impressive (GAA 2.27 and 92.2%).

Posted by: caraveli | March 3, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I think this is about the right mentality we need patroling our blue line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ne_KwVeIco&feature=related

Posted by: superpaqman | March 3, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Nyls contract, GMGM signed Nyls well before he thought he would ever land Fedorov. He was brought in to be the second line center and mentor to Backstrom at the time. He may have lost a step, but he still has amazing puck possession skills (though he does annoy me from time to time with how long he does hold onto it). Circumstances changed, and now he's a playmaking center with "3rd line" wingers most of the time. Not saying he hasn't played poorly of late, but no wonder his production has been weak this year.

I have to give GMGM credit though for these small trades that he does pull of. I would equate Fedorov/Huet last year to acquiring Bellows/Tikanen a decade ago.

Posted by: geauxcaps | March 3, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 3, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Giroux has poor work ethics. He will not be a NHLer. Laich, second center? the Caps will have that much depth next year? Now I am worried.
Everyone on the team is tradeable but Ovie, Backstrom and Green and, as someone said, you have to trade good to get good. Feds will sign back with the Caps, at his value minus 1/2 to 3/4 Million $ (that's the price tag he will come with to stay with this team).

Posted by: atybat | March 3, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey AleksanderOMunchkin - Thanks for the flashback. Prediction: GMGM makes another brilliant under the radar move (or 2). Have faith Caps faithful.

Posted by: B-LeaguerD | March 3, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

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