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Three Stars of Camp: Dubuc, Perreault and Carlson

Development Camp just came to a close out here at KCI, thus kicking off the summer for folks in the hockey biz (and those who cover it). But before this scribe heads to the beach (I'm literally leaving in a few hours) I wanted to leave with you with a few of my impressions.

My three stars of the six-day summer camp are as follows:

1) LW Michael Dubuc. The lanky winger spent most of last season in the ECHL, but he's definitely on the Caps/Bears radar now. A native of Quebec, Dubuc struck twice in today's camp-closing scrimmage to lead the Team White to a 4-2 win and extend his development camp record to seven goals in three scrimmages. He notched 35 goals in 49 games for South Carolina last season, but something tells me he's going challenge for a spot in Hershey this fall.

2) C Mathieu Perreault. He's still small (listed at 5-9, 165) but everything else about his game is blossoming. No one plays as hard as Perreault, and he was easily the most skilled forward on the ice this week. He didn't get a call-up last year (although most of the Hershey team did) but given the strides he's made, he could earn a stint here this winter.

3) D John Carlson. He's got size, skill and is mature beyond his 19 years. His play leveled off a bit as camp wore on, but his compete level was off the charts in the final minutes today as his team pushed for a late goal. He's got to be a bit tired from all the hockey he's played this season. Look for him to come back refreshed and ready to challenge for a job in Washington this fall.

Honorable mentions: G Braden Holtby, D Dmitri Orlov, C Cody Eakin and C Trevor Bruess.

A couple of other notes and quotes:

*Joe Finley, a 6-7 defenseman, played wing during today's scrimmage and exhibited a bit of his mean streak.

"To get to put the defensemen's nose in the glass for once," Finley said, "it was a nice feeling. I'll play goalie if they want me to. I just want to get on the ice and get myself to the next level."

Boudreau said: "We've always thought in the back of our minds that he could be a pretty imposing forward because he can skate and because he has better than average hands. He passes the puck well and he shoots the puck well. So it's a bit of an experiment. We'll try it. This is a spot that might be better suited for him."

Finley got involved in a couple of minor post-whistle shoving matches. He also took a whack at Holtby after the goalie grabbed his stick while freezing the puck.

*Anton Gustafsson (concussion) told me he's feeling much better today. He wasn't able to participate in the scrimmage, but said the headaches have subsided. He also said he's planning to return to the Washington area in early August to start working out at KCI with some of the early-arriving veterans. So it sounds like he's committed.

*There was another standing room only crowd of more than 1,500 out here today. And for good reason: It was the last pro-level hockey fans around here are going to get to see until mid-September.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  July 18, 2009; 1:36 PM ET
 
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nice updates

--glad to see Dubuc on the radar. Everyone focused on Travis Morin as our top fwd prospect in SC but Dubuc (and max lacroix) was really the sparkplug on that team. Skates well, hits hard, does it all. He just needs to play better away from the puck and hopefully he gets a full season in Hershey to prove that. He's graduated past the echl level.

--and interesting to see Finley at fwd. As long as they find a spot for him on this team somwhere it'll be good to get another big lug in there to lean on some folks.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 18, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update -- I am so bummed I couldn't make it this year.

What is the story with Della Rovere? Anyone?

Posted by: uncatim | July 18, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

i'm guessing the style of play Della Rovere exhibits he probably just jammed up his shoulder when finishing a check.

And I think after Chicago turned Bfyuglien into a forward, the Caps may have been inspired by that to look at Finley as a forward.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 18, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Check out what Scott Burnside on espn.com said about having the Winter Classic without Ovie and the Caps. The decision to have the Bruins play the Flyers and not showcase Ovechkin and the Caps proves without a doubt that the NHL refuses to try and market the best player in the league. Crosby has played in the Winter Classic already. But has not Ovie? WTF?

Posted by: jmurray019 | July 18, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Interesting news on the camp invitees. Too bad I couldn't make it. (We were involved with summer swim team where last weekend was the "Miracle on Melted Ice" where we had upset the best team in the league.)

Orlov sounds really good (and was just under the radar and was drafted in Round 2.) Holtby sounds so much better than last year.

Oddly enough, Gustafsson and Della Rovere, the two injured campers, were born the same day in late Feb, 1990. (Scary thought, this year's Caps draftees are the same age as my younger child. On my elder child, 5 Caps fall within a year of her for date of birth and one just misses being exactly a year younger by a smidgen. And these guys are the core group of the Caps, for the most part.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 18, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

@jmurray019

I don't know what NBC was thinking when they chose the Flyers over the Caps for the Winter Classic. They must have been in either a time or space warp.

1) Time Warp -- back in the mid 70's, the Bruins and Flyers were rivals, big time.

2) Sports Warp -- Philly and Boston would be the marquee matchup in baseball with the Phillies being the World Champs and the Red Sox were champs twice in recent years, including 2007. (And the Sox were the ones who did the comeback from a 3 games to 0 deficit in the AL Champ series in 2004.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 18, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

With the already publicly mentioned (now rejected) idea of an outdoor game in DC vs. the Pens, and the likelihood of the Caps playing the Habs in Olympic Stadium this season, we can rest assured the powers that be have the Caps in their sites for an eventual trip to the Winter Classic. Bottom line (literally) - the contract between the NBC/NHL is a revenue sharing agreement, i.e. splitting profits. Since income is derived from advertising revenue (which is driven by past TV ratings in the respective home markets) we get B's/Flyers this year.

Sure, it'd be great to see the Caps play at Fenway, but I won't complain if I'm 'forced' to make a trip to Montreal in November to see a Saturday night game vs. the Habs with 50,000 other fans. Can't imagine a better city to be in for an event of that magnitude. With apologies to any Leafs fans around, Montreal is the center of the hockey universe, seriously. It'll be simply amazing (and we won't freeze while watching the game)!

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 18, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: capsfan387 | July 18, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Nice photos - thanks!

Posted by: uncatim | July 18, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

yeah good pics, who are the two players in pic#23?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 18, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

perreault was the best player i saw on the ice today followed by orlov in my opinion.

kettler was packed today

Posted by: _stevo | July 18, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

Eakin in blue Godfrey in white. Godfrey was getting pissed at Eakin and shoved him around and got in his face

Posted by: capsfan387 | July 18, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75: Here's what NBC was thinking when they chose the Flyers over the Caps:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ratings$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ads$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ads$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ratings$$$$$$

Notice that they have just four teams that interest them, and all those teams are large ratings markets for TV hockey: Detroit, Philly, Pittsburgh, and New York (Rangers). They don't give a good flip about promoting the sport - they're interested in ad ratings.

I have the impression that NBC kind of stepped on the NHL on this one, that Bettman is continuing to let them do it in hopes of getting a share of the ad revenue from NBC, and that the whole game in Olympic Stadium thing is meant as an apology of sorts to the Caps and to the Canadian people.

Honestly? I can't say that I really mind. If I manage to snag tickets to the game, I'd rather be indoors than out, and if I have to watch on TV, who would you rather have calling the game, the TSN crew or Pierre McGuire?

Posted by: kittypawz | July 18, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I think we should definitely temper our expectations on Baby Gus. I talked to a few guys on Bofors (where he played this past season) and he wasn't even a top 5 forward on the team. And this is the minor league in Sweden (Allsvenskan) Some of them have serious doubt he'll ever break a line up in the NHL. In their eyes, he has plateaued substantially the last two years. Let's hope injuries are to blame and let's hope he follows his dad's footsteps and mimics BA sudden breakthrough. BA had a couple of lackluster years in the same club before exploding in his last year.

Posted by: jakopz | July 18, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Gus on playing in N. America this year

Looks like he agrees that he's not a top forward on his team, hence his desire to come over and play in Hershey. Here's an analysis of his game to date per Hockey's Future

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 18, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Lemme try that again...

Gus on playing in N. America

Looks like he agrees on not being one of his team's top forwards. Here's an analysis of his game to date from Hockey's Future

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 18, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

And, for anyone interested in Gus' career stats, here ya go. Pretty sure, like most (all?) European leagues, there's no second assist given on a goal.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 18, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

MetalCapsFan, he's referring to Frolunda, which is an Elitserien team (the Swedish big league). I was referring to not being a top 5 in Bofors, their minor league team. Hershey would beat Bofors 9 out of 10 times.

Posted by: jakopz | July 18, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see that Perrault is finally getting some ink. I only saw him play two games up in Hershey but he is one of the most exciting players I've seen. He is a fabulous skater that thrilled the crowd. I know that he is going to get a chance to play in the NHL someday. Caps fans are in for a treat. And yes he can score too.

Posted by: rjma1 | July 18, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

MetalCapsFan, he's referring to Frolunda, which is an Elitserien team (the Swedish big league). I was referring to not being a top 5 in Bofors, their minor league team. Hershey would beat Bofors 9 out of 10 times.

Posted by: jakopz | July 18, 2009 5:43 PM


Ahh, gotcha, thanks for the insight.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 18, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

@ kittypawz

Some year, it would serve NBC right if Pittsburgh, Detroit, the Rangers, and Flyers were all bad. (Wait, that would mess up hockey on TV in general.)

I would have thought people would be interested in the Montreal Canadians as there's so much history associated with them -- they're like the Yankees, except in hockey. Or that Buffalo would be a good hockey TV market. Buffalo fans are certainly all fierce in their loyalty (and all seem to come down here to cheer their team against the Caps).

(Yes, I prefer to watch hockey indoors, where it's warm, comparatively speaking.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 18, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

Eakin in blue Godfrey in white. Godfrey was getting pissed at Eakin and shoved him around and got in his face

Posted by: capsfan387 | July 18, 2009 3:53 PM

cool thx, gotta love Godfrey's feisty nature. Glad he's not pigeonholing himself as strictly a finesse player whose job it is to put up pts.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 18, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

anyone get an impression on how Hauswirth has looked so far?

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 18, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1: He didn't stand out as much as I had hoped. I liked him last camp, and certainly he wasn't horrid, but he didn't grab me in the way that Bruess, Eakin, or Perreault did.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 18, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1 - I only saw one day (Tuesday), but was not nearly as impressed with Hauswirth as I was last year. He always seemed to be behind the play and not very involved.

Posted by: eggseronius | July 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I think we should definitely temper our expectations on Baby Gus. I talked to a few guys on Bofors (where he played this past season) and he wasn't even a top 5 forward on the team. And this is the minor league in Sweden (Allsvenskan) Some of them have serious doubt he'll ever break a line up in the NHL. In their eyes, he has plateaued substantially the last two years. Let's hope injuries are to blame and let's hope he follows his dad's footsteps and mimics BA sudden breakthrough. BA had a couple of lackluster years in the same club before exploding in his last year.

Posted by: jakopz | July 18, 2009 5:01 PM |

I have the same reserves about him. He was pretty lackluster in a minor league in Sweden.

Johansson, on the other hand, put up 5-5=10 as an 18-year old in the Elitserien. Although not that offensively productive, as he put up those pts in 45 games, he remained a solid +10, indicative somewhat of two-way play.

I know you are Swedish and know a lot more about these guys than I do, so would you agree with me that Johansson seems further along than Gus?

Posted by: richmondphil | July 18, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil, I meant to follow up with you but wasn't sure which thread to use. Anyhow, I talked my friend who's Farjestad's conditioning coach and he had nothing but rave praise for the kid. Like you said, just playing in elitserien at 18 is an accomplishment in itself. He's tenacious, aggressive, and has a very strong work ethic. Plus he's a dynamite skater and keeps getting better. I can't stress enough what an accomplishment it is to be in the line up of a team who wins Swedish Championship at 18. This is a team that would hold their own against a team like the Caps.

Posted by: jakopz | July 18, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Sounds great. Think he has a good chance of coming here to North America after 1 more year?

Posted by: richmondphil | July 18, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

@mrszilla
If you were semin, after that "fight" would you invest in some boxing lessons like brash did? How amazing would it be if the season started and we all of a sudden had a new enforcer- SEMIN! That would certainly crack me up, and maybe put to rest the insults? I realize this would never happen, but it would be a beautiful sight to see!

Posted by: mrszilla | July 17, 2009 6:27 PM

++++++++++

LOL!!!

Semin. Sasha Semin. I'm going to play bongos on your bum.

Posted by: pstenigma | July 19, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

I do. I am a believer in Bears vs. Swedish teams because of the time it takes to adjust. Backstrom was obviously an exception because of his exceptional talent. Johansson has signed on for another year and with the bulk of Farjestad's having moved on to the NHL etc, he will get more ice time and will continue to develop at in the second best league.

Posted by: jakopz | July 19, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

@cstanton1: He didn't stand out as much as I had hoped. I liked him last camp, and certainly he wasn't horrid, but he didn't grab me in the way that Bruess, Eakin, or Perreault did.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 18, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

always puzzling when a prospect who gets signed without getting drafted comes in with a less than stellar effort. Too bad. Glad Bruess is looking good - we don't have many prospects like him in the org, in fact he's our only strong center prospect who plays a gritty abrasive game and has some size to back it up. I was pretty happy (and surprised) when we signed him out of college.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 19, 2009 1:50 AM | Report abuse

I'm literally, typing this message right now. Ha, ha, just busting your chops.

It's great to hear about how well guys like Carlson and Perrault are progressing, as well as Dubuc et al. Thanks for the updates!

Posted by: aybee27 | July 19, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

even though NBC made the wrong choice in picking the back to the 70's Flyers/Bruins matchup - kinda like the political parties sucking up to their hardcore bases rather than reaching out to the moderate who are the majority - the NHL can't really do anything but go along with their only real national TV network partner.

it's not like espn/abc, cbs or fox are dying to get back to carrying NHL games. Other than the olympics and sunday night NFL games, NBC doesn't really have anything going on during the spring and summer time since they lost nascar to espn/abc a few years ago. Buttman has to go along with them even if they make stupid decisions like this.

Posted by: joek443 | July 19, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

BTW since we haven't heard anything about OV winning an espy which was held on wednesday, is it safe to assume that we won't be seeing him holding a trophy tonight when the show is aired??

LOL figures, the espys are a joke.. how can they have that dude Shaun White beating James "Bubba" Stewart as the best male action sport athlete?? RIDICULOUS!!!

Posted by: joek443 | July 19, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I am surprised to hear people say they would rather watch hockey inside than out. The WC is an incredible experience primarily because it is outdoors. Granted, there is more to it than that (like 40-80k fans) but the outdoor part is the hook. I would go to a Caps WC in a heartbeat, and would definitely take that over the Olympic stadium.

The whole thing with the Flyers getting the WC over the Caps because of playoff ratings is ridiculous. First of all, the Flyers were playing the Pens - the Pens have a HUGE draw and that rivalry has a big draw. Furthermore, the WC will get ratings just because it is the WC regardless of who plays. Lastly if anyone honestly believes that Ovi is not going to be a draw in an international hockey event, then they do not know the game and it's fans. It's supposed to be a showcase event ... it stands to reason that you would showcase the best. I will never understand NBC's decision on this one. Unbelievable.

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 19, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Just to clarify further on the Swedish Hockey Situation:

HockeyAllsvenskan is not the Minor league, rather it is the second league. The major difference is that at the end of the year the bottom teams from Elitserien and the top from Allsvenskan play off with the winners of the tourney getting promoted to top flight and the losers being knocked down to Allsvenskan.

The same thing goes for all leagues. In theory you could win the league title one year then consistently lose and several years later be down in the lowest beer leagues. By the same token, the Ockelbo mens team (who has no stadium and plays on frozen ponds) could fight their way to elitserien in a few years.

That said, Bofors was pretty rubbish this year. I think they finished 08/09 in 10th or 11th place. Sort of a bad sign when our draft pick goes from Frölunda to Bofors. I would be careful laying world on his shoulders.

Posted by: trunkenmath | July 19, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the convention is going to be a sell-out ... got your tickets yet? :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 19, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

@Boo

Yes, I would rather be warm than cold as an overall rule when watching sporting events in winter time.

That being said, I do not agree with NBC's decision not to want the Caps in the Winter Classic and would consider traveling to Boston to see it if the Caps were in it. That "playoff ratings" excuse is so bogus. The Pens and Flyers are a traditional rivalry so, of course, their match up would outdraw the Caps and Rangers. While the Caps/Rangers series was closer than most people expected, most people thought "Ho Hum. Caps should breeze past the Rangers." I think the Caps would draw better playoff ratings if they got deeper in the playoffs. Ovi would definitely be a drawing card if the Caps went deep.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 19, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
AMEN!! (And trust me, the WC is worth bundling up for! :-))

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 19, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

If Finley could make the transition to forward and develop into a consistent physical presence in front of the net playing behind and learning from Knuble and Clark that would be the best outcome for Washington.

Posted by: leopard09 | July 19, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I have no problem with experimenting in these camps and nor do I have any idea what kind of a player Finley is.

But as a general rule, if a guy that big can play the position, he will be more valuable as a defenseman than as a winger. I assume he doesn't have good hands and that's why he is a defenseman to begin with.

Posted by: joek443 | July 19, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

from earlier....

jakopz's analysis of little gus

I talked my friend who's Farjestad's conditioning coach and he had nothing but rave praise for the kid. Like you said, just playing in elitserien at 18 is an accomplishment in itself. He's tenacious, aggressive, and has a very strong work ethic. Plus he's a dynamite skater and keeps getting better. I can't stress enough what an accomplishment it is to be in the line up of a team who wins Swedish Championship at 18. This is a team that would hold their own against a team like the Caps

you have got to be kidding me?!

I am looking froward to little gus being in Hersey too, but I bout choked on that last sentence...

Posted by: bryaningrocery | July 19, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

we would crush them..talent level is comparable in that they are both pro leauge at the top of regional pecking order...but Caps are an elite NHL team. The NHL is the top league in the World.

Posted by: bryaningrocery | July 19, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Joe Finley seemed to have pretty good hands in the camp scrimmages. If nothing else, park his butt in front of the net - you try moving a guy that big! :)

Posted by: kittypawz | July 19, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Haken Loob is Farjestad's GM. That is awesome.

@trunkenmath

When I said "minor league" I was just referring to a league not currently in the Elitserien. I did not mean to imply a development league akin to the AHL or ECHL.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 19, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

http://www.japersrink.com/2009/7/13/948409/what-i-saw-at-development-camp

this was a good breakdown of some of the guys in camp at least regarding the drills

**only inaccuracy is we invited Mike Testwuide (a forward), not his brother JP who is a defenseman

and here's some info on SDR and how he hurt his shoulder

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/16/della-rovere-looking-to-leave-a-mark/

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 19, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alexanderperlmutter | July 19, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

It's actually Håkan Loob (doesn't everyone know that?!? ;-)).

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 19, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

the Hershey roster should be interesting this yr esp with the loss of Mink and possibly Giroux. Just an early rough guess on the roster-- looks like there will be quite a few real nhl prospects vs just veterans signed to make the Bears a stronger club

D - Godfrey, Finley (unless he plays fwd), Sloan, Collins, P McNeill, Amadio, Alzner/Carlson (one of them makes the Caps)

F - Aucoin, Bourque, Osala, Perreault, Bouchard, Bourque, Bruess, Dubuc, KWilson, Pinizzotto, AGordon, Beagle, possibly Hauswirth

**indications are SDR is going back to juniors and I think Laing makes the big club this yr

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 19, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

edit-- left off Anton, if his concussion issues get healed up looks like he's determined to stay in NA too

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 19, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I think Hakan Loob is still the only swedish player to score over 50 goals in a season in the NHL. Kinda surprising fact considering there have been two 70 goal scorers from its much smaller neighbor finland.

Posted by: joek443 | July 19, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

interesting to see what characteristics are valued by different coaches - here is new SC coach talking about a player he liked during the Caps camp--


Calling the Shots with Coach Cail
7/16/2009 10:25 PM

How’s the Caps’ development camp going? Has anyone really stood out, in your opinion?
I’ve been here for a day, and I thought Stefan Della Rovere looked good yesterday. He was throwing his weight around and driving around the net. He was one guy that looked impressive. And then, unfortunately, near the end of the game, he hurt himself a little bit. (Braden) Holtby also looked very good in goal; he looks like a solid goaltender that’s going to have a good future in hockey.

(looks like at worst if SDR wanted to play in the pros this year, he has a roster spot on SC if he wants it)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Joe, Loob is still the only Swede. Sweden doesn't produce a lot of snipers for some reason...but plenty of playmakers. And if it wasn't for Gretzky, I seriously doubt Kurri would have ever reached 50. Swedes don't like the Finns much ;)

Posted by: jakopz | July 19, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

jakopz,

Kurri probably wouldn't have scored over 70 without Gretzky but he would have been a 50 goal scorer regardless. Gretzky's left wing in edmonton never even scored over 40 if my memory serves - Esa Tikkanen another finn scored over 30 a couple times playing next to Gretzky. You still have to finish even if you get a great pass.

Posted by: joek443 | July 19, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Truly a sign of late summer. All the hockey bloggers are going on vacation. Even hockey fans are not posting here on Tarik's blog much any more. A truly dead season in hockey.

Even swim team season is wrapping up. All that's left in swim season is divisional and league all stars.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 19, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

who would you rather have calling the game, the TSN crew or Pierre McGuire?

Ahh...hate to break it to you, but Pierre McGuire is part of the TSN crew. But if it's a Saturday then it wouldn't be on TSN, it'd be on CBC, so it is actually possible to get away from him.

Posted by: nhcaps | July 19, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Do we know where Orlov intends to play this year?

Posted by: thiazzi | July 20, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

While it would have been cool to see the Caps in the outdoor classic, the Olympic stadium event in the end may end up working out as well. Just a small note about this since there seems to be nothing else to talk about- Who knows what the ice conditions will end up being outside for the game. With our current style play, if we don't have speed and crisp passing it could end up costing us and we might not look like we are playing to our potential. When we finally get our time in the spotlight it can't hurt to have some of the little things in our favor.

Posted by: Grape8 | July 20, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"It looks like Mikhail Yunkov (Washington Capitals) might travel to North America for the 09-10 season, after he stated to Soviet Sports magazine that "the contract with Spartak Moscow is expired now and I decided to test myself in the NHL. I'm going to attend the development camp. I know well that it will be hard for me. Most likely I'll spend there the whole season, even if they will demote me to the AHL." The 23 years old center had a strong 08-09 campaign with Spartak, almost doubling his points production, passing from 10 to 18 points."

So where was Yunkov then?

Also, is Nepriayev ever going to come to NA? 6' 2'' power forward C who uses his body in the KHL (ya, i know) and puts up points in the playoffs and regular season. What's the deal? Doesn't want to make the jump anymore?


@thiazzi
An interview dated back in May has Orlov stating that he wishes to spend another year in the KHL. But, you never know.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 20, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Boo- I don't think Fenway seats more than about 35K. I thought it was funny that someone on this thread or another said the decision was all about $$$$$$$$.

Actually it was about dead brain cells of the NHL who must have known that an Ovi game will bring in more money than the flyers will.

Maybe if...I mean when....Ovi wins a third straight Hart, that they will figure it out that people want to watch him not Mike Richards.

Posted by: rjma1 | July 20, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

honestly...the best winter classic would be Caps vs Ottawa up in Ottawa.

Capital vs Capital.

It would be a big deal for North America if they marketed it as U.S vs Canada..

Posted by: SA-Town | July 20, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

rjma1:
I was speaking about the previous winter classics, but you get my point regardless. I still can't believe that they don't get it ... hopefully they will figure it out while Ovi is still playing.

SA-Town:
Ya, we've talked about the battle of the capitals here before - I think that would be great. Frankly at this point I would take anything. I think most die-hard hockey fan would agree - showcase Ovi and one of the most exciting teams in the NHL already!!

Posted by: Boo- | July 20, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I guess I haven't been a hockey fan long enough to appreciate another team playing unless it's with the Capitals. The Winter Classic 2010 will only serve as nice background noise while I take a nap before the Capitals come visit LA on Jan 2nd.

Sorry, Kings, heart runs Red, White, and Blue for the Capitals.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 20, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

LeftCoastCapsFan:
Thatta boy! :-)

Posted by: Boo- | July 20, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if...I mean when....Ovi wins a third straight Hart, that they will figure it out that people want to watch him not Mike Richards.

Posted by: rjma1 | July 20, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Pronger factored into that also I'm sure. Nothing wrong with the Bruins v the Flyers. They were marketing a big strongp physical matchup and they got it. Its also a throwback to the rivalry between the Bs and Flyers or Bs and Rangers from back in the 70s.

The Bruins v the Caps would have offered a different kind of matchup is all. And I think McPhee admitted that as much when he was asked about it. I'm actually surprised the NHL chose to market a more physical nasty matchup as opposed to one where you perhaps see more skill on display. That's very unBettmanlike

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 20, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1:
Supposedly he wanted the Caps - it was NBC that insisted on the Flyers.

Posted by: Boo- | July 20, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Washington at NY Rangers has the early line as favorite for 2011. I know that we might expect that the league schedule a game in Canada, or with a Canadian team, but with NBC calling the shots - can we expect that?

What would make real sense is the "Winter Classic Doubleheader," with Wash at NYR at 1:00 and then a Western Canadian city hosting a game at 4:00.

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 20, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

...and we know absolutely well how in-tune NBC is with hockey! =P

@Boo: Bought my tickets to the Rangers game on Oct 8th and I can't tell you how revved up I am about going back to DC. Cousins have grown accustomed to knowing it's Capitals hockey first and then visiting family second. =X

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 20, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1:
Supposedly he wanted the Caps - it was NBC that insisted on the Flyers.

Posted by: Boo- | July 20, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

yep you're right, i remember reading that NBC pushed for the Flyers matchup. Makes sense to me that Bettman would want the Caps. Our team is closer to his vision of the new nhl than are the Flyers
:)

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 20, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Watch NBC screw the Caps out of a Winter Classic match up in 2011 and go with the Devils and Hurricanes instead.

Posted by: ImWithStupid | July 20, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

@tommy .....there will only be one game played that day. The WC has been played on New years day and after 3 PM EST football bowl games kick in, and in reality hockey does not draw like bowl games. I offer the following solution, add a 2nd game but on Super Bowl sunday when no one wants to watch 5 hours of super bowl pre game hype. I think the NHL can stand 2 outdoor games if done the right way at the right times.

Posted by: RichC3 | July 20, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Soooo close!

From the NY Post:

The story circulating through NHL front offices, and relayed to Slap Shots by four general managers, is that Dale Tallon essentially had been operating as the Blackhawks' lame-duck GM since late November or early December, when he agreed to trade netminder Nikolai Khabibulin to Washington for center Michael Nylander.

That ill-advised deal was vetoed by club president John McDonough, who then bided his time until he could come up with a reason/excuse to dismiss Tallon. The opening came when the Blackhawks were tardy delivering qualifying offers to a handful of Group II free agents, a costly blunder.

Khabibulin, of course, took the Blackhawks to the Western finals before signing a free-agent deal with Edmonton this month. Nylander, who still has two years at $4.875 million per season remaining on his contract, was a marginal player for the Caps, often a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

No wonder Washington GM George McPhee was livid when Chicago backed out of the deal. No wonder McDonough began to have second thoughts about keeping Tallon in power.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 20, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

LeftCoastCapsFan:
It's always nice to meet someone who has their priorities straight ... ;-) "See" you in October!

cstanton1:
I would agree - let's just hope he flexes a little more muscle next time.

ImWithStupid:
Or the Islanders and the Lightening or ... :-X

Posted by: Boo- | July 20, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Greg:
That is so odd for both teams. Another season with three keepers? I don't get it. Although I suppose I would take Bulin over Nyls if for no other reason than his contract was shorter. Plus I think that was when Jose was in a rut, so folks would have been pumped to see Bulin walk in. Too funny.

Posted by: Boo- | July 20, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Back in November we had no number 1 goalie. Neither one wanted the position apparently. Habi was there and in the last year of his contract ($6M per I think). Short term pain and we would have been out from under.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 20, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

solution to goalis issue:

Evgeni Nabokov may be available

make it happen GMGM

Posted by: doughless | July 20, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Evgeni Nabokov? you gotta be kidding, what the heck has he done in the playoffs... absolutely NOTHING!!!

Posted by: joek443 | July 20, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

It's good McPhee finally settled on the Detroit model. It seemed like every year he modeled the team after whoever on the cup that year. He certainly is a follower, not a leader in anything.

Posted by: alanb1 | July 20, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

It's good McPhee finally settled on the Detroit model. It seemed like every year he modeled the team after whoever on the cup that year. He certainly is a follower, not a leader in anything.

Posted by: alanb1 | July 20, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

glad someone else noticed this. Some of the teams he has explicitly said he wanted to copy was first Minnesota's model, then Tampa's, now of course Det and Pittsburgh. Next year we better hope a different type of team (i.e Boston, Philly, Vanc, Blues, Flames) don't end up winning the Cup because then we're really screwed since we have little in common stylistically and personnel-wise with any of those teams.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 20, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Back in November we had no number 1 goalie. Neither one wanted the position apparently. Habi was there and in the last year of his contract ($6M per I think). Short term pain and we would have been out from under.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 20, 2009 4:37 PM |
If we wanted Khabi that bad, we could've just picked him up on waivers when they put him on it around the end of September.

Yeah, I know, getting Nyls off the books and all, but I don't really but this. If we wanted Khabi, we could've gotten him for half his price off waivers about a month before all this supposedly went down.

Tallon leaving was inevitable, I doubt a Nylander/Khabi proposal was the final straw, since CHI wanted to get rid of Khabi's contract for free a month prior.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 20, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Evgeni Nabokov? you gotta be kidding, what the heck has he done in the playoffs... absolutely NOTHING!!!

Posted by: joek443 | July 20, 2009 5:03 PM |

Haha. Blaming the Sharks' upsets on Nabby is just asinine. Did you watch all these series?

Cap issues aside, I'd take Nabokov in a heartbeat. Anyone would be stupid to say no to one of the top 5 goalies in the league.


See how ridiculous this sounds when the name is replaced. "Luongo? That guy sucks. He's done nothing in the playoffs."

Posted by: richmondphil | July 20, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

@kitty, anyone else who knows our prospects well;


"It looks like Mikhail Yunkov (Washington Capitals) might travel to North America for the 09-10 season, after he stated to Soviet Sports magazine that "the contract with Spartak Moscow is expired now and I decided to test myself in the NHL. I'm going to attend the development camp. I know well that it will be hard for me. Most likely I'll spend there the whole season, even if they will demote me to the AHL." The 23 years old center had a strong 08-09 campaign with Spartak, almost doubling his points production, passing from 10 to 18 points."

So where was Yunkov then?

Also, is Nepriayev ever going to come to NA? 6' 2'' power forward C who uses his body in the KHL (ya, i know) and puts up points in the playoffs and regular season. What's the deal? Doesn't want to make the jump anymore? Supposedly he has adjusted to a physical style of play, but has stayed over in the KHL.


Posted by: richmondphil | July 20, 2009 10:28 AM |

No one has anything to say about these two prospects?

Posted by: richmondphil | July 20, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

@phil

Its funny, going through the Caps media guide last year, I wondered about all the Russian players we have drafted who have yet to come over...maybe we see a change. Not familiar with either player except whats on hockey futures...call me sceptical...will believe it when I see them in camp though.

Another Russian (who may play back in KHL for only one more year) Orlov looks like a really good player...was really impressed with him in the three times I saw him last week. Hard to believe he turns 18 on Thur.! (very composed for someone so young IMO)

Posted by: ralCapsFan | July 20, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Orlov has received nothing but praise from all of the media outlets I am reading. I posted a quote earlier though, he intends to stay in Russia for one more year, but you never know, especially given his strong showing in camp. Maybe he will play juniors, who knows.

I was just surprised to see that quote about Yunkov and then not see him at camp. I wonder what happened there. I was asking about Dovgan earlier, and it seems he never panned out. All his information is taken down when I try to find out about him.
I think Nepriayev, a very very late pick, has found fame playing in his home country, so he has stayed over there. It is just interesting to me because Euros are often said to not make the leap to NA because of the physicality and this guy supposedly is very physical.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 20, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't put too much weight on Dubuc's goal scoring -- from what I saw the day I went, the goalies he was going against were sieves.

Posted by: cplcespod | July 20, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone ever heard of the idea of playing exhibition training camp games against teams from the KHL or the Swedish Elite League ala how soccer showcases their sport with such exhibitions (i.e. AC Milan vs. DC United, etc.)? I have not but like the idea...any thoughts?

Posted by: ralCapsFan | July 20, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I am kinda surprised that no one has discussed the Seabrook trade. Not much else going on and alot of other issues are being BEATEN TO DEATH! TSN.ca has about 4 pages of comments on this move...can anyone comment on the move?

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 20, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Taking on a goalie who has done NOTHING in the playoffs is simply MORONIC. The Sharks were the best team in the regular season this year and one of the best teams for a few years. They remind me of the Caps of the 1980's, a great team in the regular season and a huge disappointment in the playoffs. And whenever you see that, the goalie usually is to blame.

I don't pay ANY attention to goalie stats in the regular season. The only real stat that matters for any goalie, especially those who play for a good team like the sharks is their playoff performance. why would anyone think that Evgeni Nabokov would do any better in the playoffs with the Caps?? RIDICULOUS and the guys is 34.

Posted by: joek443 | July 20, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

in the playoffs, some goalies got it and some don't... you can see it early in their careers.

Evgeni Nabokov simply doesn't have it.

Posted by: joek443 | July 20, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil: Wow, I was so busy I didn't know which end was up yesterday, so I didn't get a chance to read or see this comment.

As for Yunkov ... wow. I have no idea. Wish I'd seen this question yesterday, I'd've asked McPhee in the STH conference call. :( I think you can still email questions, though.

By the way, folks, did anyone besides me listen to that STH call? Great information - a couple of people posted the highlights here. Couple of key points:

- GMGM and BB are very happy with Jeff Schultz, and are of the opinion that fans need to "back off" on him. He's "ahead of schedule" per BB.

- Brent Johnson probably isn't returning. Varly and Neuvirth will have to knock Theo out of the starting job in training camp if they want it.

- Joe Finley at forward is an experiment based on depth on the blueline, and initial returns are pretty good. (The idea of a 6'7" monster on the forecheck makes me smile.)

- Comments on the playoffs, handling adversity, and who they liked in dev camp.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 21, 2009 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Kittypawz,
I was not able to get in on the call, so the link and highlights are great.

So, how much over-reaction is coming about the critique of Schultz? I agree with BB and GMGM and I am glad that they have confidence in him. I really hope that he steps up this year with the improvement that will shut most of the doubters up. I know that no matter what he does there will be those that never see any good in his play.

Posted by: _Mark | July 21, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

The Cheese is a Moose now.

Posted by: Stu_c | July 21, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Well, Cheese makes way for Holtby and Varly/Neuvirth, right?

Posted by: _Mark | July 21, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

i don't give a crap what GMGM or Bouds say; Shultz blows!!!!!

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

If they want to bring Holtby to the Bears full time. I wouldn't but just to get him more playing time for another year.

Posted by: Stu_c | July 21, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Most Schultz bashers are just blow-hards that "think" they know the game. They're just bandwagon bashers!

Posted by: gonchpup | July 21, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

shultz is about as tough on the puck as is Flash.

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

sorry to insult you, flash.

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Doughless, I guess you can be prepared to suffer watching him for a while. You are probably one of the ones that wouldn't notice if he improved or made a good play.

Posted by: _Mark | July 21, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I'd like message boards to help minimize the player bashing that goes on. Maybe something that requires you enter your credentials as a professional NHL player or as a GM or coach. Then, if you don't have the proper credentials and you experience brain f*rts and say so and so s*cks, then it freezes you out for an hour. *shrug* Just my thing. For the record, it doesn't matter how many times you say "Schultz s*cks", he won't get better because of you saying that, nor will it be heeded by McPhee or Boudreau, so s*ck it up. He's on the team whether you like it or not. Spare us the immature whining.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 21, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

one word: trade

the only reason i care to see Schultz improve is for trade potential. seriously, how many middlin d-men does one team need? by the way, the only "credential" i need to comment here on the Caps and its management is the book of season tickets that will arrive on my doorstep in the not to distant future.

there seems to be a contingent here (and i assume it will continue to exist) that equates criticism with traitorism. how about leaving your George Bush world. i care about the team and its success as much as any of you lovely people.

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Amen LeftCoastCapsFan!!!! I for one, and dying with no hockey for a while..... :'(

Posted by: hbcapsfan | July 21, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

doughless,
You say that the only reason you want to see Schultz improve is for trade potential? Not that he would continue to help the team on the ice? I don't think you are a traitor, ridiculous political stupidity on a hockey forum aside. You will focus on the few mistakes, they will dominate your opinion of him, and ignore any of the rest of his play.

Posted by: _Mark | July 21, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

i never ever try to mix hockey and politics, but felt it was the best anaolgy available. sorry bout that.

look i watched Schultz all last season. his biggest bonus: he was consistent. that said, he was consistently mediocre. i mean he is a big kid, but about as tough as warm butter. i know all of the scuttlebutt about d-men taking longer to grow into their position. i may be wrong (and if so I will be the first to admit), but I just don't see Schultz addressing all of his shortcomings next season. given our goalie situation, I would prefer a short-term contract with a more solid commodity.

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

It's good McPhee finally settled on the Detroit model. It seemed like every year he modeled the team after whoever on the cup that year. He certainly is a follower, not a leader in anything.

Posted by: alanb1 | July 20, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

glad someone else noticed this. Some of the teams he has explicitly said he wanted to copy was first Minnesota's model, then Tampa's, now of course Det and Pittsburgh. Next year we better hope a different type of team (i.e Boston, Philly, Vanc, Blues, Flames) don't end up winning the Cup because then we're really screwed since we have little in common stylistically and personnel-wise with any of those teams.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 20, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

i must have missed when mcphee explicitly said he wanted to copy the minnesota model? when they started busting the caps up and starting over, the wild was barely an expansion team. everything i've read from ted, etc was that the teams was doing what tampa did, which was get young, build through the draft and build the team around guys who "grow up" together. dont be too crazy in free agency and manage the cap. like it or not, they really havent deviated too much from that script other than bringing in nylander for big dollars and making the deadline deals in 08.

pittsburg had a similar model, but got a bit more impatient when they drafted crosby. they brought in gonchar and made trades for guys like gill, hossa, guerin etc and gave up some picks to get them. worked out for them this year for sure. may not work out good long term though. then again, all of the caps patience may not win them a cup either...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 21, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Don't apologize Doughless, you're dead on with your comments

[I am kinda surprised that no one has discussed the Seabrook trade. Not much else going on and alot of other issues are being BEATEN TO DEATH! TSN.ca has about 4 pages of comments on this move...can anyone comment on the move?

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 20, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse]

It was discussed a little. Trading away a recent 2nd round pick who just came off a strong reg and playoff season, its definitely worth a mention.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 21, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Ive played hockey since 3 yrs old, went to a Caps game 2 days out of the hospital, my dad had season tickets from 76-99, I have had season tickets for 5 years since I graduated from college, I have been to every camp since then, Ivan Labre (Cap Hall of Famer) taught me to play hockey, I was recruited at 13 to play at a prep school (Heartland) in Canada, I coach 7/8 years olds at Kettler and I play in the AA league. All my friends eat breath and sleep hockey as do I.

There are my creditials......

Schultz is horrible...I absolutely see no upside to him as an NHL player except for his size and he doesnt use it so that actually turns into a negative.

One last thing, I saw someone use Chara and Schutlz's name in the same sentence about size. Like Schultz will come out of his shell. Chara has, will, and always uses his size as an attribute and his physical toughness is off the charts. He's big, he's mean, he's a leader...Schultz's isn't.

Posted by: numero94 | July 21, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

End of story.

Posted by: numero94 | July 21, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

My opinion of Schultz is obviously higher than some others posting here. I really hope that we see him continue to improve. He has a few motivators this year. He has the faith of the team management. He has a defensive coach that he is comfortable with and knows well (and vice versa). He has another year of experience in his young career. He has a few young defenseman coming up rapidly behind him. I hope those factors help him take his play to another level.

Posted by: _Mark | July 21, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

@ $715K, he's one of the reasons we can afford a contract of 13 years for $124 million.

Posted by: Fro_ | July 21, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Sloan is comparable, if not better than Schultz. Isn't he cheaper, too?

Posted by: thiazzi | July 21, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Okay fellow Caps fans - don't be so gullible! So if BB and GMGM states that Theo and Schultz are weak and not in their plans, what kind of trade value do you get for them then?

So you go to the dealership to buy a new car. The salesman asks what you are looking for and you tell him what you want. He quotes you a price and you reply, "I have a trade-in. It's the piece of junk out there in the parking space that has given me problems since a drove it off the lot 3 years ago."

What kind of trade in value are you going to get then.

No, you say "I have that car out there that has no body damage, shines like it did 3 years ago and has low mileage on it as well."

Of course GMGM is going to tell you he's a top 4 defender and not a 7th D-men looking to break the line-up or he's a goalie who's is now past his prime. Mark my words, a trade(s) will happen before or at the beginning of the season to move some guys out.

Posted by: puckman | July 21, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I like Tyler Sloan. Haven't seen him play a ton- so I can't say for certain if he's a better defenseman. Schultz's size (not to be confused with physicality) is a reason he plays. Long reach, gets in the way etc. I'm just saying that relative to his pricetag- Schultz more than gets his job done.

Posted by: Fro_ | July 21, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

true, schultz's greatest asset to this team is he's cheap. Unfortunately the longer he plays, the less trade value he appears to have.


[Like Schultz will come out of his shell. Chara has, will, and always uses his size as an attribute and his physical toughness is off the charts. He's big, he's mean, he's a leader...Schultz's isn't.]

Posted by: numero94 | July 21, 2009 11:38 AM

Its just not in Sarge's nature to lead out there by example the way Chara does. Chara probably always had that inside him. Schultz is the antithesis of that. Is Schultz approximately one-tenth of the player Chara is if you go by salaries? Sure!

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 21, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

puckman:
Gabby was pretty passionate when he was talking about about Schultz - I don't think he was blowin' smoke.

Posted by: Boo- | July 21, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Scultz is in their plans to be a top 4 D-men along with Green, Alzner and Carlson for a long time. So for those of you thinking he will be moved you are off base. If you are looking at d-men to be moved look for Morrison and Poti. My guess is one of those two are moved before the season.

Theo won't get traded until during the season, once he plays well in his contract year and builds up value. If he doesn't do that, he will be sent down to Hershey to clear cap room at the deadline would be my guess.

Posted by: ThePat | July 21, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

i will take Mo over Schultz any day.

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

schultz and top 4 d-man.....never in my wildest dreams did i EVER those two go together!!!

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

One thing everyone seems to forget from this debate about Schultz v. Chara is that Chara speaks 5 languages, while Schultz can only speak 1.5 (English and Canadian-supposedly).

Posted by: superpaqman | July 21, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Something weird.

Did anyone who posted a comment recently get an email from Tarik that stated he was out of the office and would respond when he returns???

I got one but had not emailed TEB.

Posted by: puckman | July 21, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Puckman,

I got that too. So does this mean he gets a copy of every single one of our posts in his inbox? Poor guy.

Posted by: Fro_ | July 21, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Taking on a goalie who has done NOTHING in the playoffs is simply MORONIC. The Sharks were the best team in the regular season this year and one of the best teams for a few years. They remind me of the Caps of the 1980's, a great team in the regular season and a huge disappointment in the playoffs. And whenever you see that, the goalie usually is to blame.

I don't pay ANY attention to goalie stats in the regular season. The only real stat that matters for any goalie, especially those who play for a good team like the sharks is their playoff performance. why would anyone think that Evgeni Nabokov would do any better in the playoffs with the Caps?? RIDICULOUS and the guys is 34.

Posted by: joek443 | July 20, 2009 10:19 PM |

I repeat, you must have not watched any of those series. Guess none of his amazing OT saves are coming to your mind...because he definetely bailed out his team multiple times. Nabby had nothing to do with the Sharks flopping 3 times. Sharks are infinitely known for choking in the playoffs, and it was really not Nabby's fault in any of their 3 runs. Which makes No Show Joe on their team infinitely more hilarious.

Who says that he will do better on the Caps? I sure as hell didn't. Again, I repeat, saying "no" to one of the top 5 goalies in the league is just asinine. I repeat, Replace Luongo with Nabokov and see how ridiculous that sounds.

Anyone who thinks Nabby is not a step forward is, as you say, MORONIC and RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Man, it's a good thing we fans don't get paid to give hockey advice, and a better thing still that GMGM and BB don't listen to us.

@puckman: I did too. I have a feeling that either the system is borked or he's got some kind of a virus.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 21, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

As for the rest of the comments ...

*leaves the measuring tape on the table and walks away*

Posted by: kittypawz | July 21, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet that by the time Tarik gets back from vacation, he has one of those "inbox over the size limit" notes in his email.

Yes, I got one too due to the one note I posted yesterday.

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 21, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

And before I get chewed open by talking about Nabokov, this is just simply talking about him in a vacuum. Salary cap issues aside, etc....

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Brent Johnson signs with Pittsburgh:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09202/985349-100.stm

Posted by: tess2201 | July 21, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Also, a bit of suckitude in the goalie department:

Johnny signs with the Penguins.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 21, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh god.
Oh god no, Johnny.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 21, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Uuffff, I just took a punch below the belt upon hearing Johnny signing with the Pens!
:(

Posted by: puckman | July 21, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

ARE YOU SERIOUS?????

wow.....

way to go for the throat there Johnny....

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Awww C'mon Johnny! The Pens? Really? I hate that.

Posted by: _Mark | July 21, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

oh the irony. let the handwringing regarding goalie situation begin. again, rumor that Nabokov may be moved. quick GMGM, free up cap space. one-year deal??

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Anyone on that conference call with McPhee and Boudreau yesterday around 4.30? They knew it was a done deal. Once caller asked if there was anyone on the team that they saw not returning, and the both of them immediately (speaking over one another) said "Johnny".

Posted by: Fro_ | July 21, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

How is he going to be moved if you have to sign him to one-year?


(FYI, he is not a free agent.)

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The Penguins? What a traitor! Gosh, I'd be fine if it was any other team, but the Penguins?! How evil! ;(

Posted by: rachel216 | July 21, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

make space....

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

That means BJ ain't seeing that much ice-time next year. MAF is a workhorse.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

No, my point is is that you say he might be traded, but then you said 1-year deal, implying that he had to be signed.

It's not a big deal...

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Anyone but the Pens! Still pissed that Gonchar ended up there....

Posted by: hbcapsfan | July 21, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

@Fro_: Yeah, I heard that too. There was no way there was room for Johnny, not after Varly came up swinging like he did. We knew he was going somewhere else, and had it been anywhere but Pittsburgh, I'd've wished him the best of luck. Now I'm just like damn Johnny, did it have to be Pittsburgh?

Posted by: kittypawz | July 21, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

BJ's just taking a page out of the Cookebook. Matt got a ring out of making the same move.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 21, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who have such low opinions of Schultz, I get it. You don't want him. If I were you though, wait by your home phones because I think McPhee wants to talk to you about a job with the Washington Capitals. No, seriously, they'll be calling. While you're waiting for that phone call, please refrain from using your computers. It'll just muck up the call. Turn off the laptops and hunker down for that phone call. It'll change your lives forever. A dream job come true for ya'!

Okay, now that those people are safely waiting for the call-up to the NHL, how 'bout we talk about something that we can actually have some impact with other than getting rid of players on our team?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 21, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Johnny made the move so his family can remain in DC or something like that.. Pitsburgh isn't terribly far away, and Brent has always said he wants to stay here and keep his family here.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 21, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Johnson made the best move for himself, and if was not in the Cap's plans to retain him, how can anyone blame him? These guys just want to play, and probably put aside loyalty VERY quickly. I wonder how long it will take Brash to buddy up to his new teammates in NY? It sure worked out well for Matt Cooke!

Posted by: gonchpup | July 21, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Matt Cooke was only here for a couple months, so I'm sure there wasn't much in the way of loyalty to lose.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 21, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Johnny with the Penguins. Brashear with the Rangers. Will we be facing Lepisto and Kronwall on their new teams or will they be on the AHL affiliates of their NHL teams?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 21, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Johnson made the best move for himself, and if was not in the Cap's plans to retain him, how can anyone blame him? These guys just want to play, and probably put aside loyalty VERY quickly. I wonder how long it will take Brash to buddy up to his new teammates in NY? It sure worked out well for Matt Cooke!

Posted by: gonchpup | July 21, 2009 2:07 PM |

No one is blaming him, it's all in jest.

But like I said, if he wants to play, backing up MAF ain't the best way to see ice-time.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Johnny with the Penguins. Brashear with the Rangers. Will we be facing Lepisto and Kronwall on their new teams or will they be on the AHL affiliates of their NHL teams?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 21, 2009 2:11 PM |

No way in hell Lepisto is cracking any lineup soon. Kronwall might have a shot to see some NHL minutes, but I hardly doubt it.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 21, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

@LeftCoastCapsFan: Happens everywhere in sports. Recall the first home game against Tampa last season, if you will, and facing Olie in the other net.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 21, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I think Johnson has a better chance backing up Fluery. Waiting in line behind Varly and Nuevirth, plus unseating Theodore would be a daunting task. Fluery's a bit injury prone, too, so here's hoping he sees some ice time up there. Remember Kolzig's 1st game back with Tampa Bay? I think we scored on the 1st two shots. I wonder if Johnson would be that generous with us...

Posted by: gonchpup | July 21, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Lepisto, haha

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Lepisto isn't even the pimple on the butt of Lawrence Nycholat. Doubt he'll ever be anything more than a depth call-up if that.

Kronwall on the other hand could be a solid 3rd pair guy and Calgary's just the kind of team who appreciates his skill set.

[Those of you who have such low opinions of Schultz, I get it. You don't want him. If I were you though, wait by your home phones because I think McPhee wants to talk to you about a job with the Washington Capitals. No, seriously, they'll be calling. While you're waiting for that phone call, please refrain from using your computers. It'll just muck up the call. Turn off the laptops and hunker down for that phone call. It'll change your lives forever. A dream job come true for ya'!

Okay, now that those people are safely waiting for the call-up to the NHL, how 'bout we talk about something that we can actually have some impact with other than getting rid of players on our team?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 21, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse ]

So if Schultz does get traded or ends up having yet another so-so season, you plan on reposting that msg without the condescension? Apparently fans are never allowed to question the value of any player on their team. Good one!

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 21, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Cooke departed from Washington because GM didn't give re-signing him a second look. He wanted to stay but got nothing from us. I've also heard he was not a locker room favorite, to put it mildly.

he left here feeling totally rejected, and couldn't wait to jam a stick in our eye whenever he got the chance. that's why he was the first to whine and complain when we went up 2-0, saying 'I know the Caps, I was there, they cheat (OV's game 2 power play goal) and OV's a cheap head hunter'... yak yak yak..

it was all driven by our rejection of him...

Johnny's situation is not analogous...

Posted by: capsfan7 | July 21, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

i really dont understand all of the Schultz love.

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

i really dont understand all of the Schultz love.

Posted by: doughless | July 21, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Lets not overstate this. There's not a LOT of Schultz love. Note, even the ones who like him won't state specific things he does very well. They just throw up stats about ice time etc or claim that because a member or two of the Caps org may love Schultz that us fans must be dumber than hell to question his play.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 21, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

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