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Thursday Practice Update

While everyone awaits word from the NHL on the Eastern Conference All-Star Team -- it is set to be announced at noon -- here's the latest from KCI:

Sergei Fedorov and Tomas Fleischmann are out there and assigned to lines, though it remains unclear whether they will be cleared to return tomorrow. Here's how they are lined up:

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Semin
Fleischmann-Fedorov/Nylander-Kozlov
Laich-Steckel-Fehr/Clark
Brashear-Gordon-Bradley

Read into that what you will, but it looks some there could be some changes (as in healthy scratches) coming.

Also, Bruce Boudreau can clinch the second all-star coaching spot with a win over Columbus tomorrow. There are some other possibilities, including a regulation loss by Montreal, but I'll spare you the headache.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  January 8, 2009; 12:01 PM ET
 
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Comments

No Poti or Erskine?

Posted by: SA-Town | January 8, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

1) Didn't know coaches were assigned to the ASG based upon their in-season records. Intersting.
http://newfaux.blogspot.com/

Posted by: fauxrumors | January 8, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,
Are you implying with Nylander and Feds both on the second line that GMGM has something in the works with Nylander?

Posted by: ThePat | January 8, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

BB hasnt clinched already? We are atleast 5 pts ahead of every other team in the east (besides BOS obviously).. Isnt the deadline saturday?

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Good morning.

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Kozlov
Fleischmann-Fedorov-Semin
Fehr-Laich-Clark
Steckel-Gordon-Bradley

OUT - Nylander (yes), Brashear (sorry)

If we want our best overall team RIGHT NOW, this is it. Yes Nylander is a more skilled guy than some, but he is not performing and is committing turnovers on top of it. Hate to sit Brash, but it needs to happen depending on the opponent.

Posted by: Roose | January 8, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the bandwagon fans discussion in the last post, I say the more the merrier. As JSchon said, if 10% become STH then we should celebrate.

If you assume seats at the VC average $50 a pop, and having 2,000 bandwagon fans generates $100,000 in gross revenue each game.

We're going to have some expensive young stars to lock up when their current contracts expire. Every bandwagon fan we get in the building helps towards that cause.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | January 8, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Re: Boudreau - That would RULE! I'd love to see that; our guys in Hershey are coaching for the AHL All-Star team, and I think having Boudreau coaching the NHL All-Star team would just prove how awesome this organization is! :-)

Re: Green - I hope he makes the team; that should silence all the haters, because Mike Green ROCKS!

@Roose - I don't know; Laich-Steckel-Fehr works pretty well together...

Posted by: irockthered | January 8, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

WHat are the chances BACKSTROM does not make the ALL STAR TEAM??

What do you guys think?

Posted by: DCSPORTS | January 8, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Any changes to d-men pairings Tarik?

OBTW, Morrisonn still owes you coffee.

Posted by: Section117 | January 8, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I believe I read somewhere that even if we sellout every game at home, Ted would still lose a lot of money this year. He said he'll only get a profit when he sells this team in the future. Most owners lose money year after year until they sell the team. I think that's what he meant...

Posted by: Andoy | January 8, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

They should make bandwagon Capitals T-Shirts...That would be awesome...

The bandwagon is what it's all about. It's a party people...live it up...as long as they wear red and wait for the whistle to get up..Im all good!

Posted by: SA-Town | January 8, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I think the chances Backstrom does NOT make the All-Star team are 90%. Carter, Savard, and Richards probably make it as the other 3 Centers. Now I could see Backstrom making it at Carter or Richards playing a W. But I bet those 3 make it over Backstrom, because I think Green is going and I don't see us getting 3 players. Does he deserve it, ABSOLUTELY, I just don't see it in the numbers game.

Posted by: ThePat | January 8, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

@ backstroms chances for ASG: prolly 4 to 1 against because he would be the 3rd Cap.. but the way he has played (especially over the past 2 months) the odds should really be reversed! He just needs to work on the FO%.

P.S. Move Nyls

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I don't see a trade coming, but I can see a highly-compensated veteran center being scratched.

--Tarik

Posted by: el_bashir | January 8, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I think Backstrom makes it and Green doesn't.

Posted by: saintex | January 8, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

@Andoy

Low TV revenues on a national level can make it hard to cut profit. I do think Ted can benefit from ratings being up on CSN though.

It would be nice to see CNN and Sports Illustrated start a High Def Sports channel with hockey, but ESPN is hard to compete with.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 8, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

@DC Sports - Doubt Backstrom makes the all star game. He'll probably play in the young stars game in stead as a 'reward'.

Too many other quality centers in the east, Malkin/Crosby already take up too many spots.

sucks, but Backstrom is a victim of the numbers game.

Posted by: goskinsgo | January 8, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I don't see a trade coming, but I can see a highly-compensated veteran center being scratched.

--Tarik

Posted by: el_bashir | January 8, 2009 11:12 AM

Is he bald and does his name rhyme with.. Peelander?

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Tarik (or anyone)

Does scratching a highly-compensated veteran center being scratched effect the cap issues?


Posted by: jerry2178 | January 8, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

@ Tarik---

Thanks....So do you think they are just going to scratch him because hes playing like crap or as a power move to make him want out of town?

Posted by: ThePat | January 8, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Tarik (or anyone)

Does scratching a highly-compensated veteran center being scratched effect the cap issues?


Posted by: jerry2178 | January 8, 2009 11:16 AM

We still gotta pay him so no.

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

A while back I suggested that either you, Katie, or one of the Post’s columnists should write a piece on the newly electrified atmosphere at the Phone Booth during Caps games this year and last. Today I got my wish. I have absolutely no doubt that Boswell’s column had NOTHING to do with my suggestion, but just in case MAYBE, just MAYBE it did, and even if it didn’t, I was thrilled to read the article. Good stuff from you guys (and gal). Keep it coming.

Posted by: MarylanDChris | January 8, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

You could see Clark and Nylander scratched tomorrow.

It's a young man's league.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 8, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

I agree with you thinking Nylander could get scratched. I don't think they'll trade him either because Federov's ankle may decide to act up again. But what about Clarke/Fehr?? Are they going to sit Fehr, or will Boudreau scratch our Captain??

Posted by: dcox50 | January 8, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I don't see a trade coming, but I can see a highly-compensated veteran center being scratched.

--Tarik

Since when did Bobby Holik start playing here?


Posted by: Section117 | January 8, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

*It's a performance-based man's league.

Posted by: MarylanDChris | January 8, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Ok. Thanks sexypills. Then we still need a move, what if we put Nylander in Hershey, he would have to clear waivers, can he be picked up with the no trade clause? If he is picked up, we get compensatory draft pick(s) or a couple pucks.

Posted by: jerry2178 | January 8, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Clark gets scratched. His play is improving and he's making a pest of himself even if he did get dropped like a stone against the Rangers. Unless of course he's smarting more from OV's hit than he or the team is letting on.

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 8, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Nyls on the other hand may not see ice time for a while if Feds comes back hot.

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 8, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

yeah Clark is definitely someone to keep in the nightly lineup. Listening to Brooks Laich on EITM today made it seem that the whole team really appreciates it when he is out there and playing his game.

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

what if we put Nylander in Hershey, he would have to clear waivers, can he be picked up with the no trade clause? If he is picked up, we get compensatory draft pick(s) or a couple pucks.

Posted by: jerry2178 | January 8, 2009 11:22 AM

His No Movement Clause is just that.

Posted by: Section117 | January 8, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

As crappy as Nylander has been lately (and we all know he has been), if he takes a game or two as a scratch, maybe that will rev him up and get him motivated to not get scratched again. He has the ability to be anyone else's # 2 center, we just need him to play like it.

But if he can't, and actually gets put on waivers, my bet is Tampa (because they take ex-Caps like vicadin), or Atlanta, who actually needs him.

I hope it doesn't come to that, though.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | January 8, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: capsgrl | January 8, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

" believe I read somewhere that even if we sellout every game at home, Ted would still lose a lot of money this year. He said he'll only get a profit when he sells this team in the future. Most owners lose money year after year until they sell the team. I think that's what he meant...

Posted by: Andoy | January 8, 2009 11:09 AM "

I know Ted has been losing a lot of money, but I believe a deep playoff run would help bring the team close to, or above the profitability level as well. I'm just thankful we have him as an owner.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | January 8, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: capsfan01111 | January 8, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

@irockthered

Yeah, that has been a really effective line overall. I would love to see Fehr score a bit more; he is so very close right now and seems to be on the edge of breaking out. These decisions are tough - guess that's why they pay BB the big bucks. Wouldn't want that responsibility (but wouldn't mind the paycheck)...

Posted by: Roose | January 8, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

somebody on this team does not make it to monday. only way to stay under the cap.

Posted by: Leeguru | January 8, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Gotta think Poti goes to LTIR on Friday unless they send Alzner down and put Feds on D again.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | January 8, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I am a little concerned that Fehr may be squeezed out and not get too many more chances should the team stay healthy going forward.

Fehr has had SO many scoring chances and hasn't been able to put them away. You look at the lines Tarik posted above and it looks like his competition for a sweater each night is Clark, who while also snake bit, has come back from his injury looking a lot better.

It seems likely to me that due to the C on Clark's jersey, and the fact neither is really scoring, Clark's toughness and leadership is going to keep him in the lineup.

I hope that Fehr gets some more chances this season though because he really has been playing well, just not finishing his chances. At this point, based upon his play, it's tough to say he's got a future as a top 6 forward in this league.

Posted by: Jeff_ | January 8, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

wow just OV?!?.. what a croc of crap

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 8, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I just came across this on WashingtonCaps.com and decided that it was worth sharing. Lollers galore.

Enjoy:


I've made a decision.

It's time for an "Official Caps Bandwagon" thread.

I know, I know, The Bandwagon was Mr. Tony's idea, and practically EVERYBODY on this board hates TK. The Bandwagon was about the Skins, not the Caps, The Bandwagon is tired, old shtick, blah... blah, blah... blah, blah... blah, BLAH.

Well, my friends, I say NO!

The Bandwagon IDEA is alive and well in today's Washington Capitals, and that tangible feeling of falling in love with a sports franchise all over again (ala the 1991 Washington Redskins) is palpable in the air in this great city of ours! The Bandwagon is about Washington, DC, and WINNING. That's all that matters. I sense something; a presence I have not felt since...

Well, you get the point.

I hereby deem this the Caps Bandwagon, and I encourage you all to hop on board!! (tickets are nonrefundable -- $15 processing fee per bag -- hey, the economy sucks, what can I tell ya?)

DISCLAIMER: Please excuse the idiocy of this thread appearing under "Hockey 101." Apparently I'm not yet "seasoned" enough to post a thread in the main section. (I guess that they're afraid I might link to some WILD porno or something, huh? Smart move Caps.com. Way to cover all of your bases.)

Look. I believe that the Caps are going to win the Stanley Cup this year. Period. Not open for debate. (no, not seriously, who am I, George Bush?) I base this prediction on only three games worth of action, much as Mr. Tony once famously called his shot after the Skins completed their 45-0 shalacking of the Detroit Lions on a lovely summer's eve almost twenty years ago.

I invite you all to join me here for post game discussions and analysis, joyful champagne bottle-popping celebrations, and eventually, as TK once daydreamed, a ceremonial dunk of the Stanley Cup into a DC pothole.

Can't you just picture it? Ahhh yes... pure bliss.

Mostly though, I'm just politely offering all of you LESS creative people the opportunity to stand right along beside me (actually, slightly BEHIND me) when I announce "I told you so!" to all of the haters and non-believers as OV finally hoists the Cup next June. Think about it. I'm being quite generous, actually.

I'm gassing this thing up and taking it for a ride people. Don't get left behind.

(No seriously, it's not a hybrid, the emissions are absolutely horrible)

Let's roll!


*NOTE TO MODS: Seriously, if this thing becomes popular, pull the stick out a little and move it on up to the main area, would ya? I promise to behave.

Posted by: MarylanDChris | January 8, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

No Green, no Backstrom, no Semin?!?! C'mon NHL get it together. Although I guess we're all already decided this All-Star game is completely illegitimate.
Here's to the Caps proving people wrong during the regular season (where things really matter) and not some phony popularity contest.

Posted by: tURBO8 | January 8, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

It's total hors3sh1t but not terribly surprising.

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 8, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Nylander goes nowhere, everyone, for two reasons:

- That NMC in this contract pretty well hamstrings the Caps unless he says okay, and I don't know if they'll bully him into accepting a move.
- Fedorov's ankle has been wonky all season, and when he comes back, that will be his third comeback after two reinjuries. They won't even TRY to move Nylander until they're rock sure that Fedorov is healthy.

@Roose: I dunno. I scratch Bradley first, because other teams take liberties when Brash isn't on the ice. (Sometimes they do when he is, but not lately, I've noticed.) So my last two look like:

Laich-Steckel-Fehr
Brash-Gordon-Clark

Posted by: kittypawz | January 8, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

any way someone can post the entire EC all star roster?

Im sort of not able to access any other site than this one and we know how hockey coverage goes beyond this blog on WaPo

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | January 8, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Backstrom got shafted. He should be on the All-Star team. This is what happens when you let the idiot fans have all the say. No way Montreal gets half those guys in over Backstrom. Green I understand because he was hurt for so long. The All Star game is a complete and utter farce!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | January 8, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Not surprised by the All-Star snubs of Green, Semin, or Backstrom. Unfortunately.

Also, no question Boudreau is worthy of coaching the All-Star team. He's only got the second best record in the East. It shouldn't even be a discussion.

Posted by: TheSkyIsntFalling | January 8, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

they had no room for baks or green. with 4 players from montreal (that powerhouse). F--- the allstar game. THe Cup is more important.

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Posted by: Leeguru | January 8, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Entire rosters can be found here:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=29090

Posted by: pudge44 | January 8, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm not planning on watching the All-Star game. It's freakin ridiculous! Fans are idiots.

Posted by: TheSkyIsntFalling | January 8, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: gocaps71 | January 8, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

On the All-Stars

They tried to spread in around and get every team in. Boston got their players in because they do deserve to be there.

Komisarek probably took Greens spot. Backstrom should be there, but not if we have to have everyone represented.

Hey, the Rangers only got a goalie in, and look at the TV market up there.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 8, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@Andy,

Be wary of the profit numbers that come out of the caps. Because the second level and the boxes are all owned by Washington Sports and not the Caps, the money from those sales does not show up on the Caps balance sheet. But, since Leonsis has an interest in Washington Sports he gets some of that money too.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | January 8, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

what crock of shhhh, how do they keep green and backs off there

Posted by: _stevo | January 8, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

1) No Allstar selection is a blessing for the Caps. It give those guys a few well needed days off
http://newfaux.blogspot.com/

Posted by: fauxrumors | January 8, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

What a joke this ASG. No Green or Backstrom. Kovalchuk is having a bad year and he made it (don't get me wrong, I love Kovie, but even he admits he's having an off-year). Ovie should boycott it - rest up for the Stanley Cup run.

Posted by: CAP-lanta | January 8, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't surprise me Semin and Green didn't make it for the simple fact that they were hurt so much this year. Backstrom, definitely a snub. But "Slappy" and Green not making it didn't surprise me.

Posted by: dcox50 | January 8, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I can understand GREEN not making it... He missed too many games to really be voted in....I am sad to see BACKS not on the roster....

Dana Heatley...really...

Posted by: DCSPORTS | January 8, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

WEST
Brown, Dustin (LOS)
Datsuyk, Pavel (DET)
Doan, Shane (PHX)
Getzlaf, Ryan (ANA)
Hejduk, Milan (COL)
Iginla, Jarome (CAL)
Kane, Patrick (CHI)
Modano, Mike (DAL)
Nash, Rick (CBJ)
Thornton, Joe (SJS)
Tkachuk, Keith (SLB)
Toews, Jonathan (CHI)

Boyle, Dan (SJS)
Campbell, Brian (CHI)
Lidstrom, Nicklas (DET)
Niedermayer, Scott (ANA)
Souray, Sheldon (EDM)
Weber, Shea (NSH)

Giguere, Jean-Sebastien (ANA)
Backstrom, Niklas (MIN)
Luongo, Roberto (VAN)

EAST
Carter, Jeff (PHI)
Crosby, Sidney (PIT)
Heatley, Dany (OTT)
Kovalchuk, Ilya (ATL)
Kovalev, Alexie (MON)
Lecavalier, Vincent (TAM)
Malkin, Evgeni (PIT)
Ovechkin, Alex (WAS)
Parise, Zach (NJD)
Savard, Marc (BOS)
Staal, Eric (CAR)
Vanek, Thomas (BUF)

Bouwmeester, Jay (FLA)
Chara, Zdeno (BOS)
Markov, Andrei (MON)
Kaberley, Thomas (TOR)
Komisarek, Mike (MON)
Streit, Mark (NYI)

Price, Carey (MON)
Lundqvist, Henrick (NYR)
Thomas, Tim (BOS)

Posted by: irockthered | January 8, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I liked Laughlin's idea for the all-star game...Fans can vote one player from their team to starting line-up - the rest choosen by writers, coaches, and the league. It's a crappy boring game anyway, so who really cares? I want the Cup - that is all that matters...I just think the Caps get overlooked way too much. We have the freakin' second best record in the East! Hello!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | January 8, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Kind of shocked, but at least this gives them some more MOTIVATION to show the people that run the league what IDIOTS they are.

My guess is they will find a way to include Carboneau on the bench instead of BB as well.

Posted by: ThePat | January 8, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, the All-Star team is a load of horsecrap. We all know that, and we knew it from the beginning. But one thing we have got to remember - we are flying under the media radar right now and have been for a long time, both in Canada and in the US, and across the NHL. Us being good and having fans is pretty new to a lot of people, and there's a lot of people who dismiss us as being a one-man team. If we want that kind of respect and consideration, we are going to have to earn it.

I'm okay with that. It gives us a lot of advantages in terms of how teams think about it and how the media thinks of us, and seeing the media with egg on their faces is sooooo soul-satisfying. Our job for the rest of the season is to terrorize the Eastern Conference and make a serious bid for the Stanley Cup - and if we can win it, awesomesauce.

No, we're not getting the consideration we feel we deserve. Do we really deserve it? Who knows, but we have to make people realize we deserve it, and that's going to take some doing. We're going to have to go out there and kick tail and make people notice us. It's kind of starting in a tepid fashion, and that's fun, but we're not near where we should be yet. So let's not get our knickers in a twist. The proof is in the pudding, so it's time to embarrass a few teams, something we haven't done much of lately - too many close games and not enough blowouts.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 8, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I think OV needs to call in "sick" for the ASG. That would be one way to protest the way the voting went this year.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | January 8, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Even though Green was hurt he still got shafted.. He has played the least amount of games yet has the most goals, 3rd most points and best +/- among defensemen. Atleast the ASG in hockey doesnt have an impact like it does in baseball.

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Fehr and Nyls will be out of the lineup tomorrow night. Nyls will be sitting in the press box and Fehr will be on his way to Hershey, so Alzner can stick around.

I know a lot of people have a thing for Fehr, but he's not performing to the level he needs to in order to justify his presence on the ice.

Posted by: Yoshietree | January 8, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

For those who cannot reach the NHL.com listing, here it is:

West Forwards
Brown, Dustin (LOS)
Datsuyk, Pavel (DET)
Doan, Shane (PHX)
Getzlaf, Ryan (ANA)
Hejduk, Milan (COL)
Iginla, Jarome (CAL)
Kane, Patrick (CHI)
Modano, Mike (DAL)
Nash, Rick (CBJ)
Thornton, Joe (SJS)
Tkachuk, Keith (SLB)
Toews, Jonathan (CHI)

West Defensemen
Boyle, Dan (SJS)
Campbell, Brian (CHI)
Lidstrom, Nicklas (DET)
Niedermayer, Scott (ANA)
Souray, Sheldon (EDM)
Weber, Shea (NSH)

West Goaltenders
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien (ANA)
Backstrom, Niklas (MIN)
Luongo, Roberto (VAN)

East Forwards
Carter, Jeff (PHI)
Crosby, Sidney (PIT)
Heatley, Dany (OTT)
Kovalchuk, Ilya (ATL)
Kovalev, Alexie (MON)
Lecavalier, Vincent (TAM)
Malkin, Evgeni (PIT)
Ovechkin, Alex (WAS)
Parise, Zach (NJD)
Savard, Marc (BOS)
Staal, Eric (CAR)
Vanek, Thomas (BUF)

East Defensemen
Bouwmeester, Jay (FLA)
Chara, Zdeno (BOS)
Markov, Andrei (MON)
Kaberley, Thomas (TOR)
Komisarek, Mike (MON)
Streit, Mark (NYI)

East Goaltenders
Price, Carey (MON)
Lundqvist, Henrick (NYR)
Thomas, Tim (BOS)

Posted by: irockthered | January 8, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Addendeum: It also gives us the advantage of being able to take a break and rest. We'll need those guys for the playoff push, and as someone else said, the Cup is way more important.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 8, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

^^^ among defensemen voted to the ASG***

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

mark streit made the D-men over Green? that makes sense

Posted by: _stevo | January 8, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

ACK! Double post! STUPID INTERWEBS!!!

Posted by: irockthered | January 8, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Im not really that upset about certain people not being on the roster since you really cant have everyone go to the ASG. What gets me more is the fan voting..They should really just take that away.

Look at some of the other snubs around the league..no Kessel in Boston..c'mon..he should be in

Locally, Gagne or Richards from Philly should've gone with Carter

Backs should've gone with OV...Green..maybe not because he did miss a bit of time..so that might hamper him in selection.

No Elias?

The whole thing is flawed

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | January 8, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Hard to call it a snub. After the starters, it's some tough math to make sure all the teams are represented.

There were just three spots for centers and four for defensemen. After the starters were announced, there were just fifteen slots for the remaining thirteen unrepresented teams, and two of those slots were for goaltenders.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 8, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wow, Catching up:
Re: The All-Star Game--Green and Nick still have a chance to take part in the weekend. This years "YoungStars" game is Rookies vs Sophomores IIRC. They both had stellar seasons last year and will probably make the Sophomores team.
kittypawz (re Canucks) Cheaters!
Boo (re Xerox) yeah, the Xerox pushes it a little past "the times". :-P
The Zamboni discussion is funny. Will Honda come out with their own now that they're official?
The last student rush night, Jordan and I sat in club level because everywhere else was sold out (bobblehead night) for 45 bucks. They were pretty amazing seats.
wtf_e_fehr (re Kugryshev) He looked pretty solid on the third line, maybe? but his linemates sucked, which I think contributed to his lack of production.
As for bandwagon fans, what classifies? I celebrated my one year fan anniversary in December, (with a win over the Rags) does that make me a bandwagon-er?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 8, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Re Boudreau coaching at the ASG.

It does go on records but its worked out on winning percentage as not all teams will have played the same number of games by the deadline. We are clear for 2nd in the conference but as we have played more than some other Eastern teams BB hasn't clinched it yet.

As Boston have a better record, BB would be assistant coach. That's what I understand anyway.

Not surprised by the exclusion of Semin, Green or Backstrom and the extra rest is good for our guys anyway. I'd rather they are all sat at home now as they will need the rest for playing in June.

Posted by: DaveUKCapsFan | January 8, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

i thought every team had to be represented in either the young stars or all-stars? not just the all star game

Posted by: _stevo | January 8, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"But one thing we have got to remember - we are flying under the media radar right now and have been for a long time, both in Canada and in the US, and across the NHL. Us being good and having fans is pretty new to a lot of people, and there's a lot of people who dismiss us as being a one-man team. If we want that kind of respect and consideration, we are going to have to earn it."

Yeah, even ESPN admitted the other day that they've been 100% focuses on Boston and have all the sudden realized that, Holy BLEEP! The Capitals--THE CAPITALS!!!!--have bulldozed their way right into second place and are pushing the Bruins hard. If the Caps keep going the way they ahve, expect a ton more national media exposure. (God willing, if the Caps beat the Bruins on the 16th--and I sure hope they do, because the Northeastern Alumni will be there, and nothing make my cold black heart warmer than watching the Alumni sit stunned when the Bruins loose--it could flip the entire East on its head!)

Posted by: RedBirdie | January 8, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

@lylewimbledon: Yes we do, but I think that's vastly amusing and entertaining. Imagine if you will how soul-satisfying it will be to watch the hockey world go "wait a minute" when we're hoisting the Stanley Cup, and us go "thank you for finally joining the program". Of course, it's also true that if we do win this year, people will think we're a "one and done" team - until we do it again.

Seriously, guys. Yeah, our guys got snubbed. No doubt about it. Sometimes it's a numbers game, and that just means that we'll have to rest up, get ourselves a conference championship or two and a Cup or two, and then we'll get the media attention you guys are craving. Don't worry about it. We know our young guns all kick a$$, but the rest of the world's not going to realize it until their butts hurt.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 8, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I definitely don't think the CAPS get overlooked.

For the amount they get covered 1st story on NHL on the FLY, and articles in various newspapers/magazines they are one of the leagues most popular teams.

So what about the all-star game...Backstrom is only 21 and Green was hurt..Its the ASG anyways....

Posted by: DCSPORTS | January 8, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

am i missing something? I don't see nylander's name on the roster

Posted by: _stevo | January 8, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

@Yoshietree - No chance Fehr goes to Hershey. He is eligible for Waivers and another team would grab him in a heartbeat.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | January 8, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Eh, lay off the indignation about the all-star game, which always sucks anyway. Ovi will be there to do his show, the rest of our guys will get some much needed rest and not be distracted. Green should make the end-of-year all-star team, which is what matters, anyway - as long as he keeps up his pace.

Posted by: katzistan | January 8, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

@ jmu: while backstrom does have a chance at the youngstars game.. green does not.. this is his "junior" year

Posted by: sexypills03 | January 8, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

The main issue is that every team needs to be represented. After Montreal and Pitt loaded up the starter there was no choice but to name some people that we on other teams before those who deserved it. Oh well......another fine screw up by the NHL brass.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | January 8, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

SombreroGuy

"No chance Fehr goes to Hershey. He is eligible for Waivers and another team would grab him in a heartbeat."

Be that as it may. I just don't see any other way that Alzner stays with the team if they don't send atleast a couple of people down. Waivers is a risk that has to be taken at this point. Which player is more important to the club right now? Alzner or Fehr?

I'd love to dump Nyls, but the pesky NMC combined with rational GMs not going to want his salary (with his current production levels) means something has to be done.

Maybe GMGM tries to move him then...so the Caps atleast get something in return.

If you can think of another scenario I'd love to hear it as I know Fehr has potential, but don't believe he's any where near reaching it.

Posted by: Yoshietree | January 8, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

sexypills03, Darn, you're right. I kept thinking he was in Hershey two years ago. Guess that's what being a bandwagoner does to you, right? :-P

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 8, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I can believe Brett Leonhardt didn't make it.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 8, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

New post!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 8, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I know this will get missed with a new post coming up, but I'll repost some tidbits from the last thread, and add some for the ASG thing.

1. Yes, the fans f'ed the pooch on this one. By selecting starting lineups on both sides of the mississippi (I know, not really) with only 2 teams, they hamstrung the league to having only 2 extra slots aside from the required 1 per team. In the case of the east, both went to Boston. Potential backstrom spot went to Savard (I'd argue he deserves it over backs)...and Green's spot went to Chara. Had Green not gotten hurt, that may have been a tougher decision. Let's just leave it at that and hope one of them can squeeze in based on injury or someone being honorable and choosing NOT to accept the fan-voted invite.

2. WS&E owns VZ and the Wiz. Ted is the CEO of WS&E and MINORITY owner of the holding company, only gets a paycheck/dividend from revenue generated by VZ/Wiz. WS&E collects revenues from club/suite and concession sales. Ted gets a fraction of that $ personally, which I'm sure he's using to help subsidize the Caps. (which he's still losing money on, cause he pays rent to WS&E for games, and loses SO much in beer/food. Figure, average 1 beer per seat per game (figure kids/non drinkers and then those who have 6/game). 5.2M/year in beer alone. Heck, that's enough to cover Feds contract for a year just in beer. I misspoke last thread on this topic and stated money goes to Abe and not Ted. Yes, Ted gets money, but not as much as if he fully owned WS&E and could merge Caps with that group and finally make the team profitable. (Team will not profit until it no longer pays rent/gets shafted on food.)

3. Zamboni issue. Zams are a cultural icon in hockey. The company's beginnings and early customer service made them cultural icons. To me, replacing a Zam with an Olympia is like replacing a classic puck with the Fox Glow-Puck. Sure, it's pretty much the same thing. One's newer and has some fancier bells/whistles, but the old one's just....... well. It's a Zam!

Posted by: FFSEnough | January 8, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

ok as much as i think its bs Green didn't make it I understand. the all-star game has to have a represantive from all 30 teams. islanders weren't having dipietro this year and they suck so bad no forwards were even decent enough so they had to have someone, so friken streit made it, and the panthers needed someone too so Bouwmeester got the nod. and since we had ovie, and all the other D men deserve to be there or were voted starting roster (boo montreal) green got the shaft.

Posted by: capsfan387 | January 8, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm still on the fence on whether to trade Nylander. Always good to have roster depth...granted he has not played well, but how often do you have that much depth at center?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | January 8, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

With almost half as many games as the selected all-stars have played, Semin has equal or better statistics than most of them. He is by far one of the most exciting players to watch, it is a shame he was snubbed.

A comment to a previous post on Kornheiser (sp?). In my opinion, this guy is neither funny nor informative, he is just an opinionated dude just like anyone of us except he gets the bucks. Kornheiser must be to the Jewish culture what Charo is to the Spanish, two people making money out of stereo-typing their own. I would like to say "idiots" but they aren't as they are making money and I am not.


Posted by: x1232 | January 8, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

@everyone thinking Nyls can't be moved. I used to have the same mindset but think about this. Even if you don't like Nylander and his circles, and his bad give aways, he is a puck possession center that when confident can find a gap for a pass. Although he hasn't scored I have to admit that the fort would have been harder to hold down if he would have gone down to injury. In his very few goals he has two critcal ones. He scored in Pittsburg and then the game winner in Montreal. Now, everyone, including Federov thought his career was over at this time last year. Although he is battling injuries none of us can wait (except for salary cap issues) for him to get back. His production went up and his value to the team is immense. There could be another team out there with Cap space that feels he needs a new home. I realize he has a no trade clause but stress can make you change your mind. He may move if a team that has a shot wants the trade. It's not unusual for pro athletes to leave their families in place when they get traded. Ask the Bondras. I just hope if he does go, he goes to the West because IMHO he is a phenomenal hockey player battling a major slump, I don't want to see him come out of it wearing another sweater, and playing us.

Posted by: fanohock1 | January 8, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

@ fanohock1
I agree !

Posted by: RedRocker | January 8, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

me thinks the blog hiccuped.

Posted by: FFSEnough | January 8, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

The Caps cant' really send Alzner down after his performances to date. He is a top 4 defenseman for this club already at age 20. His plus/minus numbers show that.

I knew this dilemma was going to happen because while the Caps have two offensive-minded backliners in Green and Poti, the team didn't have a bona fide core stay at home defenseman on the roster in 2008.

That's why Alzner was originally drafted and now he has arrived in Washington.

While Nylander seems to be the primary potential trade bait there are a couple of other veterans on the team that could be available to relieve the salary cap issues.

Posted by: leopard09 | January 8, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

BACKSTROM > HEATLEY
BACKSTROM > KOVALCHUK
BACKSTROM > LECAVALIER

BACKSTROM = ROBBED

Posted by: WTF_Fehr | January 8, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Where'd the new post go?

Posted by: DaleHunter | January 8, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

New post past the hiccup.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 8, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Fedorov needs to play with Semin.

I guess they will give him a game without the other Alex to see if his ankle will hold up, then its time to finally try Semin-Fedorov-Fleischmann.

Posted by: DrAdamson | January 8, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

(Repost from previous thread):

(Though also as a lifelong Caps fan, I know it's doomed to end in an early playoff exit to the Pens. So I am enjoying it while it lasts.)

Posted by: katzistan | January 8, 2009 10:08 AM


@Katzistan: I respectfully disagree--Crosby, Malkin and past history notwithstanding, I think that monkey is off our backs for good now. If the current trend continues (improved health, stacking up the wins), I don't believe anyone in the East except Philly or maybe Boston has a real chance to stop us from reaching the Finals. As for the West, I would rank the potential threats as 1) San Jose, 2) Detroit (3) Calgary


I got news for you, there arent many real hockey fans in DC, there just isnt.


Posted by: JSchon | January 8, 2009 9:58 AM

@ JSchon: I was born in Southern CA, grew up in Northern CA. at a time when neither the Ducks nor the Sharks existed--I'm not even sure the Kings existed either, but what little I did know of hockey at the time was that some red-hot ROOKIE named Wayne Gretzky was in Edmonton tearing up the league.

So it's accurate to say that my formative years were not exactly steeped in the Lore & Traditions of the NHL. I didn't pick up a stick until age 35 or play in an organized league until age 38.

I began following the Caps (and despising the Pens) when I moved here in 1986 and have followed the games on TV/Radio whenever possible...win or lose. My first "live" Caps game was in 1998. Time & money are mainly what stand between me and frequent attendance/STH status, but in my heart & soul I am for the Caps 100%--win or lose--and I try never to miss a game on TV...

Based on the above facts, am I (by your definition) not a "real" hockey fan? If I am not, what can/should I do to become one given that I can't afford ST's or any seat below the 400 levels. Please be specific--I'd sincerely like to know what it takes to be a "real" hockey fan.


@SA-Town - Oh, I totally agree on not liking him... I just think there might be one or two guys in the whole NHL that are worse than he is. Can't think of any at the moment... ;-)

Posted by: irockthered | January 8, 2009 10:31 AM


@irockthered:

Here are my candidates:

--Does Sean "Pottymouth" Avery not count anymore just because Dallas released him?

--What about Jarko (sp?) Ruutu? After all, he likes to bite! ;).

--Maybe there's also Briere...but then again he's just sort of a whiner.

Posted by: Rhino40 | January 8, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

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