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Tonight's Lineup: Caps at Panthers

Jose Theodore will start the Caps' final game of the regular season tonight at BankAtlantic Center. Tomas Vokoun, meantime, will start for the postseason-less Panthers.

For additional info on tonight's matchup -- stuff like milestones and injury updates -- read my earlier post here.

Here's the rest of Washington's lineup:

Forwards
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Kozlov
Laich-Fedorov-Semin
Fleischmann-Nylander-Fehr
Steckel-Aucoin-Bradley

Defense
Morrisonn-Green
Schultz-Jurcina
Erskine-Pothier

I'll have some postgame notes and quotes for you later. So check back.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  April 11, 2009; 5:17 PM ET
 
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Comments

WTF are Semin and Green doing playing? Ditto Theo?

Personal achievements are taking precedence over possibility of getting hurt?

Posted by: gtydings | April 11, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

@gtydings . Let's hold down on your leading adjective eh. second of all the caps don't have anyone else to play for Semin and Green. they're all hurt and we can't call up anyone from Hershey because of cap limitations. Bruce has already stated he wanted Theo to play to remanin sharp. read before you jump in.

Posted by: billd2 | April 11, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

i think this is close to the playoff lineup, semin and koz prob will switch

Posted by: DnicefromHtown | April 11, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

what personal achievements do semin, green and theo have on the line tonight?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | April 11, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

playoff lineup will also probably include brash for aucoin (unless aucoin gets hot) and gordon for nyls. guessing those guys will flip flop depending upon effectiveness and opponent.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | April 11, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

@Dnice,

You are right. I'm thinking this is awful close to what we're going to see next week, except Poti will be in obviously.

--Tarik

Posted by: el_bashir | April 11, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

So when brash and Gordon are good who is going to sit?

Posted by: SA-Town | April 11, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I really wish they'd rest the blue chippers tonight.
This isn't a home game for the Caps and this is a character game for the Panthers whose fans are paying to see a game that means nothing.

The Bruins are losing...it was 5-0 after 2... to the Sabres in Buffalo. Hopefully they can regroup for their Game 1.

Posted by: austinsteve | April 11, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan1: Nothing. It's just a fine tune up for the playoffs. Don't want to be all rusty.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

So here's the question: Do we want/need Brash against the Rangers or Canadians? Maybe against a Philly or a Boston, but why not put at least one real scoring threat on every single line? I know the theory is that without Brash patrolling the ice, other teams will feel like they are free to take more liberties with Ovie, Semin, etc. While that may indeed be true, I'm just not totally convinced that the mere presence of Brash alters other team's behavior significantly...

Posted by: TheButter | April 11, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

@austinsteve who cares if boston regroups or not?

Posted by: mikebrady1 | April 11, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

@mikebrady1

That's not the point, it's a parallel to what would happen to the Caps if they lost a blowout to the Panthers. God knows the sky would start falling in the Caps Insider comments section...

Posted by: austinsteve | April 11, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure we'll be fine, even if we manage to lose tonight. I just wish we could avoid setting ourselves up to wrong-foot or last step before the playoffs.

I don't know what I was thinking though, I know we have to play everybody because of the salary cap/call-up situation. Guess I forgot momentarily.

Posted by: austinsteve | April 11, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Yes, we're playing our "regulars" since we have no cap space to call anyone else up.

Think we're better off with Aucoin than Brash. Seems that every time Brash gets in a fight, he gets injured. I believe that Aucoin helps us more -- a chance for scoring on the 4th line. (Never thought of Boston as a team where we'd need an enforcer but certainly an enforcer is needed vs Philthy.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 11, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Sucks that the Frozen Four Championship game is on at 7 and so are the Caps.. my remote control will be dead.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

how is the last game of the season not being broadcast in HD? Florida sucks...

Posted by: patrone | April 11, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

@peeps thinking we should sit our regulars

Ovie can't be sat, he wouldn't allow anyone to sit him, we know that, this teams follows him, you think anyone (semin, greenie, etc.) went to coach B and asked to be sat? - now way, so lets hope they play a great game

Posted by: DnicefromHtown | April 11, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Is there a caps broadcast of this game? For some reason the NHL Center Ice package is blacking out the only HD broadcast of this event...I'm in Chicago so it's pretty odd for me to get a blackout of a game in Florida...

Posted by: patrone | April 11, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

SO many good memories this year. It was a very, very fun year. Can't wait for more memories during the playoffs! I love this team! :)

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Wow -are the stands in Florida as empty as they appear?

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | April 11, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

that last replay = white all around = goal

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

good goal

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

THATS IN!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

that was a goal.

Posted by: patrone | April 11, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

malkin already scored a goal

Posted by: Moose33 | April 11, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

BS

Posted by: patrone | April 11, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I would have been shocked if they had done the right thing and counted it.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Am I the one that's blind? That was CLEARLY across the red line. CLEARY. There was white between the puck and the red line... stupid refs.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with the officials? It was obvious from the replay that it was in.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

malkin already scored a goal

Posted by: Moose33

Oh dear. :/

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

WTF no Goal???????????
Retarded refs, this really makes things unpleasant....we score....but the refs r gay...this is BS

Posted by: masterx09 | April 11, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

CHI-CGY is Locked.

That is going to be an awesome series.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

NHL officiating in general is at best incompetent and at worst crooked.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

These Panthers announcers sound almost catatonic. I guess this is what it's like when your team is out of postseason contention.

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

The Western Conference might have the best two teams overall but the EC has by far the better first-round series. There are some snoozers in that WC first round, while every EC series promises to be compelling.

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

center ice sucks - they're only broadcasting the panthers feed - and its not even HD

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Clearly something is wrong. If all of us here say we saw it cross the line then how could the REF make the wrong call? Refereeing is his expertise... he is blind if he didn't see the puck cross the line entirely.

Man, Laich is hot!

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Laich - en fuego!

Posted by: ccCapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Laich is hot.

Great timing.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

sweeeeet

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

B Laich is en fuego

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Brooksie is on fire! Great pass Semin.

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

semins forechecking created that goal

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Laich is a monster. He's going to be huge come playoffs. Phil you're right Chi/Cal is going to be an awesome series.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Laich - en fuego!

Posted by: ccCapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse


...thats kinda scary...GET OUT OF MY HEAD...or....GET ME OUT OF YOURS!!!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I have been asking to see Laich and Semin together for a long time. Want to see more...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

So Pittsburgh wins, they play Philly...Montreal wins, we play Habs, Rangers-Flyers result pending...

Hmm, whom to root for???

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Capt_Kirk_in_AZ: You're stuck with the Panthers commentators. They're so boring. So unethusiastic.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Nice pass by Semin, I hope he gets more SOG's in the playoffs. Emphasis on the G's! He misses the net way to much.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

we'll need theo two play like this to get to the ECF or the cup

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I have been asking to see Laich and Semin together for a long time. Want to see more...
Posted by: richmondphil

Can't agree more. Plus Fedorov. It is quite obvious that Semin better interacts with Laich than Fleisch.

Posted by: fnralch | April 11, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

We need Theo to play like this +++.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Defense is looking very sound tonight...so far.

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

rachel216:
they are about as unethusiastic as the crowd is. i'll need about 6 or 7 goals (all caps) to make this exciting

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

So Pittsburgh wins, they play Philly...Montreal wins, we play Habs, Rangers-Flyers result pending...

Hmm, whom to root for???

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I think we get out the first round no matter which opponent. But Flyers vs. Pens is a win - win. One will be gone, thats good news.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Semin muffed up his layup.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Feds/Semin/Laich worked well earlier in the season too. Fehr and Flash being hot and cold at different times during the year has made the wingers bounce up and down on the 2nd and 3rd lines.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Wow that's one of the first times I've seen Theo stop that forehand to backhand flip move. Ever.

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Part of me still wants to play Philly and Pitt in one playoffs. Call me nuts but I figure we have to face those demons eventually.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

donknutts:
does that mean he's peaking at the right time?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

soft.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

dag

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Theo shoulda had that... that far from the net and at that angle... come on Theo, don't do that in the playoffs.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Was that deflected? How did that go in? Not enough coverage on the replay there.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

What percentage chance do you think there is that Varly gets a postseason start?

I'm thinking... 50%

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

My main complaint about Green is that his nonchalance in his own end can be a little dangerous. We love it when he effortlessly skates out of the zone with it but sometimes I feel like he concedes the puck way too easily when challenged. If I were an opposing coach, I'd send players at him like crazy on the forecheck.

Posted by: donknutts | April 11, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Classic Theo - lost his concentration.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | April 11, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

donknutts:
i think somewhere along the way - theo will let in 3 of 6 or 4 of 8 (maybe not even his fault) and varly will come in. what would be interesting is if varly does a shutdown and the caps end up winning - does BB go with him again!?!

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Theo's soft goal is only half the problem... maybe it's the line shake-ups that are throwing them off, but they aren't communicating very well and can't seem to get out of their own zone... no forechecking... and Dave had a goal - he totally got robbed on that one!

Posted by: johnzilla | April 11, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

habs and pens tied 1-1....its on NHL network

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Locker has promised us video evidence of a bad bounce/deflection on that.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Theo didn't expect that shot but he still should've had it. And yes, the score should be Caps 2, Fla 1.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Okay, that was a weird deflection.

All concerns given to Theo regarding that goal has been overturned.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Montreal scored

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

have*

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

omg...Don Cherry is a freakin clown..that jacket!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Look at Don Cherry on NHLnet...

Posted by: fnralch | April 11, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

DAMN I MISSED THE GOAL REPLAY!!! Staring at that fool Cherry!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

DAMN I MISSED THE GOAL REPLAY!!! Staring at that fool Cherry!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:00 PM |

deflected off Aucoin. Definitely not Theo's fault in any way.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm fine with a Pens win. Extra day to prepare for the Rags in the playoffs, Pens play the Flyers, NJ-Car. Make it a 2-1 win with an unassisted goal by Godard

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

If this team thinks it can just safely turn the puck over 10 feet into the opponents zone and get away with it, they are in for a rude awakening in the playoffs.

Recently, blind center pass by flash as soon as he enters the Panthers zone, then Ovie tries "something" and turn it over.

I know we are a long way from my defensive minded Caps that were always intent on just getting it deep (dump and chase). But even if you have a wealth of offensive talent, if there is nothing there, make the safe play, get it deep, thats playoff hockey!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Laich just needs to try to stuff it sometimes. It looks like he has space sometimes.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

dumb play green.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

$h!t. It was coming. Too reckless.

Posted by: fnralch | April 11, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Laziness again

Posted by: johnzilla | April 11, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Schultz "cabonged" someone? It must be true because Locker said so!

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | April 11, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Someone in the stands had an Iowa Chops jersey.


LOL.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

anyone got a link for the game?

Posted by: virkulous | April 11, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

this is turning into a Panther farewell party

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

That was a good looking goal for the panthers.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

The *panther growl* is almost as bad (and awesome) as the *howling noise*.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

so much for theo confidence builder

Posted by: am_jim | April 11, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

I guess we can consider ourselves lucky the Panthers didn't end up with the 7th or 8th playoff slot.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | April 11, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Theo's got to be better.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

anyone watchin the Hershey game? Pretty decent game against archrival Philly who spanked them last night.
Kronwall looks really good but what was disturbing to see was something involving Karl Alzner. Giroux got the puck along the boards and got elbowed right in the face by Pat Maroon. Then two other Philly players kinda got on Giroux who was totally outmanned. Well Mr Alzner was standing right there and did absolutely nothing. He waited till Arsene came in from across the ice as Philly players were milling around Giroux. Giroux is the AHL MVP this year and to get blatantly cheapshotted right by the Hershey bench while Karl Alzner just watches the action like he's in the stands or something is hard to take. Its hard to believe a former team captain like Alzner who has good size would be such a shrinking violet on the ice. Even little Chris Bourque got involved while Alz stood about 3 feet and didn't do anything, didn't grab anyone, didn't go get in anyone's face.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

oh man, good call on the Panther's Fairwell Party

Posted by: johnzilla | April 11, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Correction: . . . the 7th spot. Period.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | April 11, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

am_jim: I'm thinking he would enter the playoffs more confident after the Tampa Bay game. But after this game, I'm a little worried.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Does it seem like Ovie hasn't scored in an age? I hope that won't continue next week. I know we need secondary scoring, but we also need first line scoring!

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | April 11, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Odd man rush, beautiful feed, beautifully placed shot -- I don't lay that one at Theo's doorstep at all.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Zednik has looked far better for the Panthers than he did in his 2nd stint in Washington.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

..theres that turnover i was talking about

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

SEMIN!

Posted by: irockthered | April 11, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

SeMiN.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Ovie with a pt

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

ALEX!

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Ov needs 4 points. Game should be tied but it's not.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Dangit -- was watching the college finals for a moment. How'd it look?

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

The Panthers are playing pretty hard for a team that "has nothing to play for"

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1 - Get off it. I am sick to DEATH of you always wanting people to hit other people. I'm sorry, but doing that will get you stuck in the box for anywhere from 2 minutes for roughing to the REST. OF. THE. GAME!

Welcome to the 21st century version of hockey. Get with the program, and quitcherb*tchin'!

Posted by: irockthered | April 11, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I like that the Panthers are playing hard, this team acts like it needs to be pressed into service.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 11, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

If the Caps play on the playoffs as they have played on the last month, they will have a 50/50 chance of making it to the second round - it does not look good.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Semin got that goal unassisted... so that means Ovie's still down 5 pts for now

Posted by: johnzilla | April 11, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey anyone think Montreal is not playing hard cause they want to avoid us? They're being outshot 30-10 through two periods! Seems to me they're trying to lose.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

No, the game summary says an assist for OV.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Too bad for OV, but it really seem as it should be unassisted, he wasn't passing it to Semin.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

We're absolutely doomed and will probably have a quick exit. 108 points; maybe 110. 2nd seed. Played fine in the balance of March after a slow start. Finished the season strong in terms of wins. We spilt the series with Carolina and Philly, but have a winning record against all other East playoff teams. 5 20 goal scorers and the best player in the game.

Give up now.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

The NHL scoreboard is showing assists to OV and Backstrom on the Semin goal. Glad for them, but ...

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

AH, excellent, I see Ovie was credited by NHL... ESPN corrected itself... that was lucky

Posted by: johnzilla | April 11, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Montreal, now there is the kind of goaltending that can get a team to the CUP (assuming Price were consistent). They ara tied 1-1 because Price has stopped 33 out 34 shots, while his team has only 13 or 14 shots for.

Posted by: caraveli | April 11, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Price has played well tonight. I still want Montreal because of Lundqvist...

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I was about to comment on Price. He is being absolutely insane tonight. Too bad he is a marshmallow.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

ESPN's often wrong in their box scores. Ovi's cross-ice pass deflected off a skate to Semin, who put it in. That's not a close call -- a clear assist.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Sonyask, I didn't say the Caps were doomed, but if you think they have played well during the month of March when most of their games were against teams that did not make the playoffs, then, in my opinion, you are letting your fanaticism get the better of your rational way of thinking.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey anyone think Montreal is not playing hard cause they want to avoid us? They're being outshot 30-10 through two periods! Seems to me they're trying to lose.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

doubt it, they want to play us the same way we want to play them (instead of the Rangers)

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Opita -- I'm tired of hearing about how the Caps are going to lose. They tend to win their games because they score more goals than they give up, and I expect that to continue.

Not long ago we were complaining because the Caps only beat the best teams in the league and played down to the weaker ones. Now we're beating losing teams (division opponents who typically should play us well), and you're suggesting its a bad harbinger.

The Pens and the Canes have played extraordinarily well this month, but we're not playing either in the first round, and the rest of the Eastern playoff teams have played worse than the Caps -- particularly the Habs and the Rangers.

Fanatacism is why I am not pushing the panic button?

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

nice dive ovie.

haha, oh well.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I have a question and I have to repost it. DanielGKim gave a partial answer, but I'm not sure he is correct and he didn't even attempt to answer the other part of the question. Everyone else just tried to say that the box score isn't correct basically.

This question concerns the April 3 game against Buffalo.

The box score is here so that you can see the strange facts for yourselves: http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2008021160. You can even click on the little WATCH buttons beside each goal if you want to see them.

Period 2 started, with both teams at full strength (yes the box score and my memory both agree on this point), and here's what happened:

1:14 - Buffalo whistled for two two-minute minor penalties.

2:39 - Buffalo whistled for yet another two-minute minor penalty. Washington is at full strength. Neither of the first two Buffalo penalties have yet expired, but NHL rules do not allow a team to be down to fewer than 3 skaters at a time, so the third penalty can't start until after the first two expire.

3:14 - The first two Buffalo penalties expire.

3:41 - Alexander Semin scores a 5-on-3 goal!

3:50 - Sergei Fedorov scores a 5-on-4 goal!

How are either of these things possible? How could Semin score a 5-on-3 goal despite the first two of the three Buffalo two-minute minor penalties having expired 27 seconds beforehand?

And given that Semin scored on a power play when there should have only been one Buffalo penalty, how can the Capitals then score on a 5-on-4 nine seconds later?

Now, DanielGKim did point out something, and that is that he believes that the first paragraph of Rule 27.2 means that none of the three Sabres can return to the ice until the first stoppage after the expiration of the first two penalties (or, I assume, until the Sabres are entitled to be at full strength again, whichever is first). And it's true that there was no stoppage of play between 3:14 and the time of the Semin goal.

However, the next paragraph of that same rule seems to possibly contradict the first paragraph. I asked two actual NHL linesmen, and both of them told me that the Capitals should have been playing at a 5-on-4 as of the 3:14 mark.

And even if DanielGKim's interpretation of Rule 27.2 is correct, and that of the two linesmen I talked to is wrong, it still does not explain why Fedorov's goal came on the 5-on-4. DanielGKim, assume you are correct about what you said, and please tell me why Fedorov's goal was a 5-on-4 goal.

Posted by: youaresquishy | April 11, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Semin!!

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

agree with Opita, the Caps play in March has been arguably the shoddiest of all 8 East conference playoff seeds. I can't think of another team except Montreal who has played the mediocre hockey we have over the past month. We're certainly not "trending" upwards heading into la playoff season.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

semin poppin open.

Pothier workin the point like he has a Sens jersey on.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

SASHA!!! WooT!

Posted by: irockthered | April 11, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Month of March maybe, but we haven't been the worst team recently.
That title goes to the once feared devils.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

We were trending incredibly last year and lost the first two games, and then the series against Phil.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

three or more. more.

Posted by: fnralch | April 11, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

SHOOT. Come on, CAPS!

Posted by: irockthered | April 11, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

The way all 4 goals were scored really worry me... ugh.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually not at all afraid of the Devils, I think we can actually beat NJ in a series. Playoff matchups are interesting because they don't follow the seeding hierarchy. I think our toughest matchups are Boston, NYR, Pens and possibly Philly although I think we have a decent chance of beating them this year. I think we'll lose in the 1st round if we draw the broadway blueshirts. Although for pure entertainment sake, there would be nothing better than a Bos-Mon matchup and a Caps-Rangers matchup in the 1st round. And I think we'll be a better team for it by being tested more by the Rangers. Even if we lose the series it will expose enough holes that McPhee will feel pressure to make some moves this offseason.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

We were trending incredibly last year and lost the first two games, and then the series against Phil.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

ummm no not quite Sonya. We won the 1st game of the series.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Philly has had a lot of breakaways tonite against the Bears, the goalie has been awesome to hold them to one goal so far.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Pre-Torts/deadline acquisitions, Rangers stood no chance against us. Will be an interesting series.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected -- we were very lucky to win that first game (as sloppy as the Caps have been this month), then we lost the next three

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

As far as I saw, Theo only let in one bad goal, the first one.

The other three were on a breakaway, a rush on a PP, and a 2-on-1.

Give the guy a break. He's been great for the last few months.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 11, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Staffan Kronwall just scored a killer awesome goal, he takes the puck at the blueline off the faceoff and then skates down the wing and thru the Philly defense and blows the puck past the Phantoms goalie

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

The first one was a crazy deflection off Aucoin. He had no chance at it.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

No 56!!!

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

OV!!

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 11, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Fish out of water.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I'd agree with that Sonyask, we were sloppy in game 1. We honestly didn't even start playing hard hockey until game 4 in Philly. That was the first time our entire team started playing like a team.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

How many goals have we given up tonight on breakaways, odd man rushes?

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Haha.

FLA bringing it in #82.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

It seems the two teams who got knocked out, BUF and FLA, are pissed.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Penguins just scored 2 shorties on the same PK. at least it looks that way.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

we're off to an early exit if this stuff continues. BAD move by BB. Should've just given this game to Varly. If this game did anything, it has messed up the mindset of Theo. Should've just given him the day off. This did nothing to help him.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

EXTREMELY concerned with how Theo is playing. Just don't see anything beyond trivial plays.

Posted by: fnralch | April 11, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Pens up 3-1 now (no more points from Malkin since the 1st goal). Get ready for the Rangers.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

D breakdowns then, not Theo?

Posted by: johnzilla | April 11, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

#@%!^$*#!

Posted by: irockthered | April 11, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

This game was supposed to build up their confidence. righttt...

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

1) we've allowed more odd man rushes tonight than in every other game this season combined. at least it seems that way.
2) i miss tom poti, but our defense shouldn't fall apart at the seams every time he's gone.
3) anyone noticing how the only defenseman paying attention during these odd man rushes is erskine? weird that he's playing well when no one else is.
4) this is why i've never trusted theo. it's the d's responsibility to prevent odd man rushes, but it's the goalie's responsibility to be able to stop those goals when the d fails. theo has demonstrably NOT done that tonight. i miss johnny.

yep, i think that sums it up pretty well

Posted by: jess4caps | April 11, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

It's fan appreciation night in Sunrise, FL. That might be an another explanation for their play tonight.

Posted by: Terptwin | April 11, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Sonyask, I did not say they were going to lose and I do not panic nor complaint about sports, I only gave an opinion on my observations on how they have played lately and how the other playoff teams are playing.

Yes, they have won most of their games during the last month, but who was the competition? The Caps won against non-playoff teams with the exception of a 2-1 win over the flyers. They lost to the Maple Leafs twice.

I love the Caps, and I am pulling for them to go all the way, but I am not blind.

And why do you get tired of other people's opinion? They do not seem to get tired of yours.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

looks like its going to be Hershey v Philly in round 1. That's another series that despite the seeding in the AHL, no guarantees for hershey

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

FLA and BUF bite back!

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Mailed it in... re-wind the 'System', I think

Posted by: johnzilla | April 11, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

What a stupid finish to such a successful season. Now it's BB's turn to take care of this loss and tune the team for playoffs.

Let's go Caps.

Posted by: fnralch | April 11, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Theo should've stopped maybe two of those goals. But it doesn't matter when your defense is giving you nothing. You guys need to calm down. His mindset is fine. The Caps are in no worse of a position they were 4 hours ago.

Rangers...Lets do this.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by the caps defensive breakdowns. This has happened all year long, why would it suddenly change in the last game of the season? It can't, this is a problem that is rooted in two things - personnel and philosophy. McPhee can be blamed for the personnel but Bruce is responsible for the on-ice defensive philosophy. This is a high risk high reward type of hockey team. They score a lot of goals and they give up a ton of chances in return. Its going to keep playing out this way even in the playoffs. Which is why I think we're better off facing Montreal and not the Rangers who have a very very stiff defense and they have the kind of forwards in Dubinsky and Avery who will park their butts near our goalie and and get some crash the crease goals similar to Philly last season. Against Montreal we can get away with some more wide open hockey.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Boston got waxed today too...I don't care what kind of team achievements you might say you're playing for I'm sure all of our guys are looking ahead to next week.

Kind of odd for the best points total in team history to have 7-4 defeats to start and finish the season.

Bring on the Rangers. Ovie finishes 3 points back with 3 less games played? Semin gets to 34, Laich to 23.

Not really all Theo's fault, but not how he wants to go into the playoffs I'm sure.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 11, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

It does not matter who the Caps play in the playoffs. Rangers, Habs, whoemever. We won't win with Theodore. Case closed. The body of evidence shows his lack of focus and here is a recent example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJSoGUzjve4

It is time to realize the future now and give Theodore one game. If he plays soft or unfocused he should be yanked and Varly should have the opportunity.

Posted by: diner99 | April 11, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

WE SHOULDN'T LOOSE ANY CONFIDENCE....
IN MY BOOK THIS GOES DOWN AS A 6-6 TIE
THE REFS CHEATED AND EVEN WE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE WON IF THEY COUNTED STECKEL'S GOAL
BUT MIKE GREEN HITTING THE POST AT THE END DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T MAKE ANYONE FEEL BAD
CAPS RULE...CONSIDER IT A GAME THAT DOESN'T MATTER BEING STOLEN FROM US

Posted by: masterx09 | April 11, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey Opita, just reacting to the atmosphere that seems to pervade here from time to time. Much of the time it seems to get worse when we're winning. Certainly no offense meant.

I am not counting on winning in the playoffs when we play like this; I'm counting on the Caps picking up their game just like I expect the other playoff teams to do.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

it wouldn't be a problem if theo weren't prone to performing worse the more goals he's let in. theo is fine, and the defense was pretty much nonexistent tonight. but he lets goals against get to him, and he hasn't had a successful postseason in a few years. i'd be lying if i said i wasn't a little bit nervous

Posted by: jess4caps | April 11, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1 - Get off it. I am sick to DEATH of you always wanting people to hit other people. I'm sorry, but doing that will get you stuck in the box for anywhere from 2 minutes for roughing to the REST. OF. THE. GAME!

Welcome to the 21st century version of hockey. Get with the program, and quitcherb*tchin'!

Posted by: irockthered | April 11, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

IROCKTHERED you're an idiot because you don't see any problem with players not defending each other on the ice. You're also an idiot because you keep harping on this 21st century style of hockey while completely ignoring the fact that even in today's game you have a ton of teams and players who defend each other on the ice.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow! BU just scored two goals in a minute to tie it -- 25 secs left in the 3rd at the Phone Booth

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Hershey won tonight and I think they placed 1st overall and will face the Flyers farm team in round 1.

Thought the best forwards tonight for Hershey were Beagle, Perreault and Osala. At one point Woods put Beagle, Mink and Osala together and they did a # on the Phantoms D, those three guys are hard to handle, hope they get to play some more together.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

awesome game, go to ESPN!!!! 3-3 tie

Posted by: rachel216 | April 11, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Ok. A meaningless game. Too bad OV did not get his points. Lets hope they play the way they did during the first part of the season.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I meant during the playoffs

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I am not counting on winning in the playoffs when we play like this; I'm counting on the Caps picking up their game just like I expect the other playoff teams to do.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 11, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The caps will pick up their game, but its relative to other teams. Meaning, better defensive teams in the regular season will still be better defensively than we will. Our strength is our skill/offense. Usually the playoffs are kinder to the better defensive teams, not the better offensive ones. Esp the deeper you go.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Welllll, I'm sure glad I gave up the opportunity to go to the FF final to watch the Caps . . .

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | April 11, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Sonyask, I agree with you. Lets hope they do.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Playoff mode? Strong defensive effort in front of Theodore to give him confidence going into the playoffs? Don't make me laugh, the only thing that will make up for this pitiful, lacksadasical effort is winning the next four games.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 11, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

the only thing that will make up for this pitiful, lacksadasical effort is winning the next four games.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | April 11, 2009 9:36 PM |

I would be perfectly fine with just winning the next game.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Giving up 7 goals is pretty disgusting for a pre-playoff "tuneup" game regardless of what is at stake.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

..For making up this game, that is.

I would not be perfectly fine with just winning the 1st game.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 11, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

The habs aren't trying to loose. They stink. Their #1 goaltender is soft and it starts there. The Habs have not had goaltending since they gave up on Patrick Roy. They will be victimized by the Bruins in 5. Now we have to deal with King Henrik

Posted by: diner99 | April 11, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I am wondering if some of these guys are being over-coached, that is, are the coaches restricting the natural talents that some of the players posses? - Just food for though.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I think honestly, every player on this team has the green light to jump up on the play and there's little repercussion handed out for shoddy turnovers and positioning. How many 21st ranked teams in GAA get far in the playoffs? can't think of any off the top o my head

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

No offense to Al and Jill, but I rather hear BB talk about the game instead of you two.

Posted by: opita1 | April 11, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

All BB is going to say is

'we better get our act together before the playoffs because we can't give up these many chances and these many goals and expect to win'

Thats all he can say. He can't actually CHANGE anything significantly. This is the team he has and guys like Schultz and Pothier and Green aren't suddenly going to turn into Pronger and Niedermayer. The price this team has to pay for all the wonderful tictactoe passing and beautiful offensive wizardry is the baggage of frequent turnovers and lackadaisacal play. This team is built on offense, and there isn't much pride in defense instilled by the coaches. And frankly, when you consider that most of the defensemen this team drafts is offensive defensemen, that msg filters down from above the coach.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 11, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

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