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Video: Ovechkin back on the ice

Here's some video from Tarik down in Sunrise, Fla., where Alex Ovechkin returned to the ice for the first time since injuring his shoulder Sunday.

By Lindsay Applebaum  |  November 5, 2009; 3:36 PM ET
 
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Definitely laboring that arm a little bit... Good to see him on the ice though. give it another week.

Posted by: pvr3384 | November 5, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

doesn't look like the team is taking sprints all too seriously, IMO

Posted by: ralph4100 | November 5, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

looks like there are 40 guys on the ice...

anyone want to guess the attendance in sunrise tomorrow night w/ no ovie? 8K?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 5, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

doesn't look like the team is taking sprints all too seriously, IMO

Posted by: ralph4100 | November 5, 2009 3:47 PM

I was going to say the same thing but who knows what they've had to do before that.

Posted by: Moose33 | November 5, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I was going to say the same thing but who knows what they've had to do before that.

Posted by: Moose33 | November 5, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Nothing - practice today started with sprints according to Corey.

Posted by: CapsChick | November 5, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"Alex is not being spared." Let's be honest - all OV would have to say is "I can't sprint" and he wouldn't have to sprint. OV is on the ice because he wants to be out there working with the team and wants to be game ready when he can go back into the lineup. Though on that note, part of me wishes he'd go to more practices just for the leadership effect that would hopefully inspire some of the younger guys rather than sitting out the practices between games.

Posted by: Raber | November 5, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

8 is clearly not moving his one shoulder very much while skating. It may be awhile before he's back.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | November 5, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Nothing - practice today started with sprints according to Corey.

Posted by: CapsChick | November 5, 2009 4:34 PM

Apparently practice started with a light skate rather than a sprint.

Posted by: Moose33 | November 5, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Million dollar arm 5 cent head (anyone notice there is no cent sign on a qwerty key board)

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | November 5, 2009 11:53 AM


@ cadlecreek1:

FTR, you can make a cent sign on a QWERTY key board by typing: [Alt]0162


@ All:

NOW IT CAN BE TOLD:

ChickenLittleCapsFan = Mr. Bill

"OOHNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Posted by: Rhino40 | November 5, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Ovi!!!!!!!!What a sight for sore eyes!

gonchpup (from previous post):

You make an interesting point: I still don't understand why so many have pushed the panic button and are desperate for change...I don't see why we should expect any major shakeups.)

This is the big question. Is this the regular process of a team developing and having ups and downs or is it that they have reached a plateau and they CANNOT go any further without a huge shakeup?

I am too emotionally invested to know what I even think objectively. I keep changing my mind with each performance, but I am leaning on the side of some type of fundamental change being needed, mainly because they seem stuck in the same mistakes and they cannot muster the resources to compete for 60 minutes.

The analysts, supposedly more objective, seem to agree on the problems that are keeping this team from becoming great and see them as pretty significant, though I don't know if they agree that a big transformation is needed.

Pierre LeBrune's piece made the case more than anyone else.

So what do you all think: major shakeup or minor fine-tuning? How major and fundamental is the problem?

Okay, don't ignore this. I am waiting for words of wisdom and great insights from everyone.

Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

caraveli: My opinion is they for sure don't need a major shake up, but I'd like a few of the D swapped out. I'd also like one 3rd/4th line forward swapped out.

1) The team really lacks the ability or the willingness to lay out the body. There's nothing wrong with a player who is positional - Lidstrom, Calle Johansson, even Ray Bourque to some extent. But by God for everything that is sacred in hockey - you must have a Rob Blake or a Mark Tinordi or some snarling, toothless defenseman to win the Cup.

2) This team is very weak on defensive play by the forwards. I think this is even weaker than the lack of grit on D. Somewhere on the roster of every Cup winner is a Gainey or a Charbonneau or even a Kelly Miller.

What I want is a real 3rd line that is a shutdown line against the other team. Sure, Steckel can be center. Brooks Laich could be one winger. But we need an Ulf Dahlen or someone on the other wing. That player isn't on the Caps, nor in Hershey.

I also want to move some of the ambiguous defensemen and get at least one bruiser who can skate.

Trade bait: Holtby, Bouchard, Osala, ShaMo, Erskine, Poti, Pothier, Perrault (his stock is up), Jurcina, Clark, Boyd Gordon, Eric Fehr (maybe, except his stock is down) and next year's #1 pick (God knows we have enough #1s on the roster).

What I want in return - three very reliable defensive players - one RW and two D.

My birthday is 11/24. That's what I want.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 5, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

the problem with all the offense first teams, not just in hockey in other sports as well is that they reach a certain level and they get no further.

no run and shoot offensive football team has ever won the superbowl, you can't win in baseball unless you have great pitching no matter how many great hitters you have and Paul Westhead's fast break offense in basketball never went anywhere in the NBA.

you might say it has worked in hockey before with the Edmonton Oilers of the 80's but no team before or since has ever had that much offensive firepower in one team. one thing most people overlook is that they did have solid defense and a HOF goalie in Grant Fuhr.

I don't think the problem with the Caps are a big problem... they just need to play better sound positional defense and it has to start with their best player.

Posted by: joek443 | November 5, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

Most of our fan base is ready to add a certain other person to our trade bait list at this point. At this point, most of our fan base (and even most of our bloggers) would rather see Nylander in the lineup this weekend than him. Yes, none other than my favorite Cap outside of Ovi, the "bad boy" I like who reminds me of my first daughter in so many ways.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse


tominfl1

Words of wisdom indeed. Thanks. I agree with you on the trades except Perrault who has potential. I also can't make up my mind about Poti & Pothier. But, hey, Holtby, Bouchard, Osala, ShaMo, Erskine, Jurcina, Clark, Boyd Gordon & Eric Fehr are all yours. Do what you want with them. And yes, on "three very reliable defensive players." Now if we can get the other bloggers to vote yes, we can present our decision to McPhee and expect him to act on this.

But what do you do about forwards who are not defensive players and the lack of grit and work ethic? These seem to me like mind set and cultural changes, which is where transformation comes in.

So what do we do? I am in agony and don't know if I can stand to watch the game tomorrow.

Also what happened to Semin and Knubble? Knubble has been a little flat the last two games.

Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

I'm not really thinking too straight about the team myself. There are times I wonder if my office mate's assessment of the team is correct. 1) Last year was their "golden opportunity" that they squandered in Round 2 of the playoffs. 2) They are basically a lottery team sans Ovi. 3) I should expect them to do no better than .500 so I won't be disappointed.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

caraveli:
other have said this, and i have noticed it also. the caps play 'down' to lesser opponents (atl & nyi twice each) and 'up' for better opponents (bos, sj, phi, nj - not all of these were wins)
when they are up for and on top of their game (bos & sj; 4-1 wins) - they can be very good.
when they play down - they struggle
they have 11 one goal games out of the 15 they have played (the other 4 were all wins) - i get the impression from this that they are good enough to play with the top tier teams anytime they want.
here is where i have no real wisdom or great insight - how do you movitate them so that they play 'up' every game?
i suspect there could be several factors that could contribute to this inconsistant play
a) the nyls situation caused:
lost bourque
calls up of perreault & aucoin
sloan a dman playing forward
(this makes me wonder if the players think: are we putting the best team on the ice every night)
b) bad habits in practice:
these carry over to the game. even BB says you can't just turn it off and on
c) they are in a weak division:
given human nature - some players may think/believe - we've got all year to win/clinch
d) fearing a major shakeup - using your term:
again human nature
if the nyls situation is resolved - there most likely will be some big changes
this could cause some players to play a little 'tight'. not knowing your status is not always a good thing. i'm sure some dman think/realize that because of their lower salary - they wear a caps sweater and not a bears sweater
e) i'm sure there are other reasons - maybe someone else has their own little list (outside of semin s*cks, schultz s*cks, green s*cks, etc)


i think most of the issues are mental at this point and it is up to BB to figure out how to get the most from each individual player

sorry i couldn't really answer your specific question - but these are some of my thoughts on why they are not consistant from game to game

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 5, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

My birthday is 11/24. That's what I want
tominfl1:
mine is 11/15 - i want:
everyone to stop whinning about how bad the caps are
and
my wife to allow me to have 'fans' :)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 5, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

one more point on the subject matter...

I had good fortune as a hockey fan but great misfortune as a Caps fan to have witnessed the entire career of Mario Lemieux. I started following hockey pretty much the same period that he came in the league.

In his early years Bengt Gustafsson never had any problem shutting him down when the Caps played the Pens and the Pens were pretty much one of the worst teams in the league. He still put up some amazing offensive numbers in his first 5 or 6 years and slowly but surely the Caps stopped having such easy time shutting time even with Langway and Stevens on defense.

when he started paying more attention to defense and became a better two-way player under the coaching of the late Badger Bob Johnson and Scotty Bowman, the Pens started to have more success as a team and won their back to back Cups.

I think there's a lesson to be learned there.

Posted by: joek443 | November 5, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli & TominFla

Not ready to give up on Perrault just yet.

I think we need some tweaks but I'd say we're hurting until we can unload Nylander and some of the other big contracts which will be in the 2011-2012 or 2012-2013 season. I'd say, build for that time frame and use next year as a rebuilding year. Pothier and Theodore are at the end of their contracts. They'll be let go.

I can't recall how long the contracts of Clark and Poti are.

Trade (or let play out contract) Poti and Pothier and bring up Alzner and Carlson next year.

I assume we'll keep Ovi, Backstrom, Laich, Flash, Fehr (possibly), a couple of young goalies. (Until last night, I assumed we'd keep Semin. Now I assume he's a goner since he's apparently lost all good will as a result of last night's game. He was already the most criticized player, whether rightly or wrongly but now ......)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

You're a Scorpio, just like my sister and my sister-in-law. The latter was born less than a week before Mike Gartner.

It's the manner of the losses that is frustrating everyone to no end. All of the Caps losses are games in which they led at one point and the vast majority of them are games they should have won. We have lost so many games due to bad penalty taking and other mistakes. Hence, everyone is assuming the worst about the team.

I'm sure the Nyls situation isn't helping us any (or helping the players on the mental front).

I didn't have a problem with calling up Aucoin or Perrault. They had done well in training camp. But Sloan, a natural defenseman, at forward....

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75

Your office mate's assessment is totally wrong. I know this much. Whom does she support, Crosby?

joek443: interesting historical perspective on offensive teams @ also on the Penn's evolution. The more recent evolution of the Penns--in the last 3-4 years--is also a lesson to be learned.

Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

That's exactly the big issue: "how do you movitate them so that they play 'up' every game?" and "the issues are mental at this point." That's what great coaching has to figure out. Maybe it takes time. And apparently you have to figure it out again and again. Does anyone know about the longevity and sustainability of great coaches, say Bowman?

tominfl1 @ Capt_Kirk_in_AZ HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!! One of my sons' birthday is Nov. 15.

Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Dare I say this but wouldn't you consider a trade with Semin & Nyls in the package for high picks or a "D"? I am becoming more and more impressed with these young guys in the system and I'm really thinking Semin is too much of a head case to keep around too much longer. Get something in return before he goes free agent.

Posted by: pacapsfan | November 5, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75: Poti and Clark are signed through next year.

I have NOT!!!!!!! given up on Perrault. I said, "his stock was up."

Others:

The Caps aren't "bad" or messed up. Our 12 forwards are exceptional to put two scoring lines on the ice. Biggest problem I see is we DON'T HAVE a true 3rd line (shutdown) and we lack true toughness (if not pugilistic ability) on the 4th line.

You'll notice nowhere do I ever put Bradley on my "maybe trade list" or "doesn't fit role" list. Why? Bradley would die for the team. Someone here called him the "human punching bag." What a compliment! A person with lesser fighting skills ready to fight anyway! For the team!

The Caps are really, really close. First, they have Ovechkin. What other team has Ovechkin? How easy is to say, "We need to swap Pothier for grittier D" than it is to say, "We'd be Cup favorites if we had Ovechkin?"

The cup is half full! And this means the Cup will soon be full! Rejoice!

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 5, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

pacapsfan; NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd nver "toss' Semin to rid a contract.

For all that is sacred in LIFE --- as someone pointed out, Semin has Bondra talent. Very good comparison. I remember Bondra coming up in 91 I think. It took him like 5 yrs of struggling with fans then on the Prodigy BB (yes, I was there, TominBelAirMD) saying, "Dump Bondra! Dump Bondra!"

Fans are fickle. Good thing they didn't dump him. You can always trade a marginal player. But trade a Larry Murphy or Scott Stevens, and look what happens, you spend the next 15 years drooling while THEIR teams hoist the Cup.

Excuse me, but do Stevens and Murphy have 7 Cups or 8? And we have?

Thank you David Poile! And thank you for giving us the pick for Varlamov for Brendan Witt!

I'm sick and tired of my wife yelling at me cuz all my shirts have DROOL stains on the front! I'm tired of drooling and I want the CUP! Don't trade great players!

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 5, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Capt Kirk: You think it is difficult to enlist a few fans. Yes! BUT, like with anything in life, you need a strategy. You know, once a person has a strategy, one that works, you find recruitment much easier. You can get those fans and they can support your team! And you can support their team!

tom_orem@yahoo.com

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 5, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75

No no no! Don't give up on your boy, Semin. "Now I assume he's a goner since he's apparently lost all good will as a result of last night's game." He is moody and inconsistent and, hence, exasperating at times but he is also the second goal scorer after Ovi and one of the best in the league. When he comes through, he comes through big. He is frustrating but far from discardable material.

I suspect he is not easy to coach and BB, for one thing, does not seem to know what to do with him. I bet if he clicked with the right coach, he could be helped to gain more discipline in managing his emotions & moods.

And here is a piece about Nylander's situation. The writer is as puzzled as we are but he lays out the issues well.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/276624-the-michael-nylander-saga-continues-for-the-washington-capitals

Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

that article mentions that nylanders situation prevents us from signing long term deals with semin and mike green...um, greenie is signed for two more years after this one, and then he's a RFA. i believe the author meant backstrom. easy mistake, they are both defensemen...no, well they are both sweedish...hmmm, no...they are both blonde...hmm..no..no excuse for that mistake...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 5, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know Dave Fay made the HOF in 2007... good for him

Posted by: joek443 | November 5, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

On my office mate. His original team was the Sabres.

He watches the Caps but is a casual fan. He followed them more because of me.

He once went to a Caps practice (the Saturday before the Pens game that we lost in OT). After that, he grabbed lunch and, while in the elevator, he overheard some people talking in the elevator about going to the Pens practice that afternoon. So, he was there and met Crosby and Byslma. He was really impressed with Bylsma, thinks he's a nice guy, and a great coach. He was especially impressed that the Pens practice was so much harder than the Caps practice under Boudreau.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Okay I am re-sending this one about Nylander's treatment by Boudreau from last year. They seem to have held it. The writer outright blames BB, and the fact he did not give him enough ice time, for Byls performance. I AGREE. It claims that we would be a better team with Nylander.

What does everyone think? I copy parts below:

"What did Michael Nylander do to exactly tick Bruce Boudreau off in Washington?

The 36-year old started the season with six points in four contests. He was seeing time with Alexander Ovechkin on the power play, and things were looking smooth.

Recently, even with the injury to Alex Semin, the Swede has been demoted to third and fourth line duty...


Nylander had clearly established himself as one of the game's top playmakers. Had an injury not wiped him out for half of his 2007-2008 campaign, we may have seen similar results.

To his credit, he managed 37 points in 40 games before going down. His 12 points in 20 matches thus far this year aren't highly regarded.

But it's not the simplest of tasks to produce when you're seeing just a little over 12 minutes of ice time in certain matches. It came to the point where he was a healthy scratch for one game...


Perhaps putting the spotlight on Boudreau after he was inducted into the AHL Hall of Fame the other day isn't the wisest of moves. However, I just can't help myself on this issue.

Nicklas Backstrom had an eye-opening rookie campaign with 69 points (14 goals, 55 assists). He found himself in the midst of a sophomore slump early on this year, and would still possibly be lost in it if every one of his shifts weren't alongside Ovechkin.

When Semin was excluded from the equation, I expected Nylander to play with Ovechkin and Backstrom. At the very least, seeing him split ice time with either of the two would have made me happy.

No, Viktor Kozlov gets the empty spot on the top line. To my surprise, he was actually awarded some power-play time with Ovechkin during a match with Anaheim a few days ago.

The result? Two power-play assists. If Nylander gets some chances to feed No. 8, the numbers will rise. Instead, Backstrom continues to reap the benefits of Ovie's partnership because of one good season.

Is it any wonder that the Capitals have seen defeat in four of their last five games? Semin's absence would be the first factor. Next would undoubtedly be Nylander's treatment from Boudreau.

To my astonishment, the Swede hasn't once complained or brought the topic up for discussion. He just simply continues to play his game and hopes Boudreau's eyes will open.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/86090-just-the-facts-michael-nylander-deserves-better

Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75

Oh no! "He was especially impressed that the Pens practice was so much harder than the Caps practice under Boudreau." Something else to worry about. Do you think Boudreau is not working them hard enough? I wonder.


Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

Frankly, I think Semin is better than he had been in the past. Until last night, he was doing better in the penalty department. Hadn't taken any since the Detroit game.

His defense is better than it was.

Boudreau is a better coach for him than Hanlon was.

Sure, he's still having trouble managing his moods and emotions but it seems like it's better than it used to be. But, of course, there will still be lapses.

From what I was reading about yesterday, it seems that he makes errors of aggression. It's almost like he was trying too hard and is too "tight".

I'd rather not see him go but everyone was ready to dump him, even before last night's game and last night's game was the last straw for many people. (I was spared the agony since Cox cable was down for us. I think it was God's plan to spare me from watching that disaster.)

I'll admit my emotional control isn't perfect, either. Guess I'm just like Alex Semin.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

Given that the Pens were/are having more success than the Caps since the hiring of Bylsma, I think that is the case. Or at least, Bylsma is doing something right that Boudreau isn't.

I know that Bylsma used to play for Boudreau. I believe he respects Boudreau.

Boudreau is a good coach -- definitely way better than Hanlon. I believe he's also better than Therrien, Bylsma's predecessor.

Bylsma is a really gifted coach (much as it hurts me to say it).

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

Must admit I have a kid (now grown) who's like Semin.

I bet if I compared notes with Semin's parents, his teachers probably had the same comments that my daughter's teachers.

"Sasha is a good student but he is not always focused".

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

One thing that impressed me with Bylsma during last year's playoffs is that he had the Pens practicing, particularly their PP, almost every off day. I don't think the Caps had one full practice during that series.

Posted by: ablake70 | November 5, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75

"Sasha is a good student but he is not always focused".

Yep. This is the story of my daughter and granddaughter who was a talented goalie but her moods and inconsistencies did her in. And intensity that sometimes lacks focus describes me too. Maybe this is why I get so frustrated with your boy.
But there is no question in my mind that he is a great asset and has to stay by all means. So let's not give up on him because others do. Ovi has had his share of bad days too.


Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

"We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're talking about practice. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last but we're talking about practice man. How silly is that?"

the immortal words of one Allen Iverson

Posted by: joek443 | November 5, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

@joek443

Ah...the great Allen Iverson. Why should he have to practice when he has NO championship rings?

Posted by: ablake70 | November 5, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70

You and my office mate are on the same page about the Caps' practice schedule vis-a-vis the Penguins. Penguins practiced more, including power play. Caps did not.

The results are obvious. Boudreau is a very good coach. Bylsma is a much better coach. If by any chance, the Pens ever fire Bylsma, or if he ever resigns, the Caps should do all they can to hire him.

BTW, there are not very many coaches I think more highly of than Boudreau.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

"the immortal words of one Allen Iverson"

they also could have been the less memorable words of my goalie granddaughter

Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

While Semin has made his share of mistakes this year, he has not necessarily been our worst offender in that regard. He just gets credit for it.

Red heads are famous for their tempers. Guess who has red hair -- Semin.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

I would like to know what Bylsma did to inspire them. To come from the AHL to a Cup in the first year is amazing even if the talent was already there.

One thing about coaches: not every great coach is suited for every situation. You have coaches who are great in college, but horrible in the pros because they can't adjust to the pace or the culture of the next level. It doesn't make them bad coaches. It just means they aren't suited for that level of play. And vice versa.

Posted by: ablake70 | November 5, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

Similarities between my first born and Semin.

1) They are one year apart and share the same astrological sign (Pisces with moon in Pisces). My daughter was born on Brendan Witt's 10th birthday (speaking of enigmas).

2) Both have been accused of lack of focus

3) They both have had lots of haters but was loved by plenty of people too. (She was loved by certain teachers and hated and reviled by others; same with bosses.)

4) She once had a best friend born in September of 1985 (6 days after Ovi).

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

@ ablake70

anytime I hear people talking about practice, that quote is the first thing that comes to mind.. LOL

every athlete needs to practice hard obviously but if anyone should be spared from a few practices, I would say it would be Iverson... such a small guy who played with no fear in a big men's game

Posted by: joek443 | November 5, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70

Join the club. I'd like to know what Bylsma did to inspire the Pens also. We know they were the previous year's Stanley Cup runner up who was f'ing up the following year. Underachievers. And he has made them into a great team, a team that will probably win the Eastern Conference conference with 130+ points this year. (I'm hoping that the Pens go into the playoffs all cocky and overconfident and ---- get dumped by someone, I don't care who.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75

Let's introduce your daughter to Semin then. How would you like him for a son-in-law?

Posted by: caraveli | November 5, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

just because a few people on here are shouting trade Semin, Green, Shultz and half the team, doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

the only way Semin gets traded is if he and his agent ask for crazy money and/or another team makes'em an offer they can't refuse

Posted by: joek443 | November 5, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

I read the Nylander article. I noticed how they suggested putting him on the top line with Ovi and Backstrom after Semin went down but Kozlov had moved into that role instead.

I recall the game where they had put Nylander as a winger on the top line. (This was when Kozlov and Semin were both out with injuries.) That was a disaster. Nylander seems to be so miscast as a winger.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

Semin is always going to catch heat because he's not a people person. Many people call him lazy and one dimensional, but he is one of the better defensive players on the team (much better than Ovi), he is money on the PK, and that he creates a lot of the scoring chances the others get. But people only want to see the negative side.

What I find interesting is that everyone says he's immature and stupid because he takes penalties. Mike Knuble (who I think is great) is 37 and has a long history of taking penalties. Philly fans have even termed taking a penalty on the PP "being Knubled". But since Knuble can give a good sound bite, people give him a pass.

Posted by: ablake70 | November 5, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

@ joek443

Iverson never wanted to practice. And he's not much of a team player. A great player, but I wonder if he ruined his chance at a championship by being so selfish.

Posted by: ablake70 | November 5, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

She already has a boyfriend at the moment. Plus, she's out of the country until May.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h83-I6FJwAU

I don't remember seeing this before... LOL hilarious

Posted by: joek443 | November 5, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70

I heard the term "knubled" for taking penalties.

So, what term should we give a player who has a tendency to take inopportune times?

1) he has Seminitis

2) Knubling

3) he has Gordonitis

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

Oddly enough, her boyfriend is an introverted Pisces, like guess who.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

@ablake70

In an earlier thread, IRockTheRed had posted something comparing Semin and Ovi. Semin is an introvert and is obviously not comforable with the media; etc.

At least we know Semin can make good loyal friends. Heck, the guy makes better friends that I ever had.

Back when he was drafted, his closest friend at the time posed with him and his family. (Would not be surprised if they're still in touch.) I don't recall any other draftee who included a best friend in a draft day photo.

And he is obviously a good friend to Ovi (and they are loyal to one another.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

Maybe I should do something productive tomorrow evening, like purchase a Linux book at the book store, instead of watch the Caps tomorrow.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 5, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

CapsFan75:
a linux book? that sounds way to boring - if you pass up watching the caps, i can tivo it and watch it a second time just for you

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 6, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

CapsFan75

We all have to watch together for moral support

Posted by: caraveli | November 6, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Please don't tell me the Penns are gonna win tonight. This is the toughest thing of all to bear.

Posted by: caraveli | November 6, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

caraveli:
things are looking better in the pens/kings games. la has scored three unanswered goals in the third (7 min left) in a 6m15s span - the last two just 23 seconds apart. kopitar has 2 goals for la

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 6, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

The Kings look like a dangerous team this season. I've caught a few of their games. They have plenty of talent.

Posted by: tmac2yao | November 6, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

@capsfan75

I have the ultimate linux book for you...

www.google.com

Linux has to be the easiest os, especially since half of the programs have man pages. Don't waste money on a book, just read the man pages, google around, and tinker a bit. Pretty soon you too can be a shell wizard.

Posted by: trunkenmath | November 6, 2009 6:11 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Knubling for Knuble's penalties (pretty funny BTW), I think it depends on the situation. Back in game 7 of the Caps/Flyers playoff series when Flyer Knuble hit Huet's glove, caught the pass and made the goal--he could have been called for goalie interference. Risky play--a game changing moment. We Caps fans all thought it should have been called. But from the Flyer's perspective, good reward. And recently in the game Ovie was hurt when Knuble had a late slashing call, in replay that looked like punishment. The player immediately went off ice to check his hand. But a ref called that penalty. Bad for us. In general I think Knuble's "penalties" have a purpose to them. Some offensive penalties are worth the risk. Some cost the team. And I am still in awe of how well he kept the puck trapped in the offensive end against the boards in that Caps PK.

Also, my personal view vis-a-vis Semin-he's trying too hard. I think he was too tight in the last game wanting to step it up and be the game-changer. I believe he can do it. Step it up I mean. He's not the game changer Ovie is--very few players are--but he has the ability to bring it on. He did last year when Ovie was in Russia. He played very well until injured. I for one am a believer in Semin.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | November 6, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

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