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Zubrus Traded

Zubrus is headed to Buffalo for 23-year-old center Jiri Novotny and a first round pick in 2007. The Caps also sent minor league defenseman Timo Helbling to the Sabres. More to come.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  February 27, 2007; 2:33 PM ET
 
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I called it. I said Buffalo. I like the deal personally but i know a lot of people are upset.

Posted by: Matt | February 27, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

First!

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Great. An unknown 23 year old. Hey, at least we got a draft pick. This team needs to rebuild. We haven't seen enough of that...

Fire GMGM.

Posted by: Brendan | February 27, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

At least a warm body came back that plays the same position.

Time will tell...

Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

at least he didn't go to Pittsburgh.

Posted by: Jeff | February 27, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

HORRIBLE. low draft pick and a center prospect who will now be mcphees excuse not to sign a true #1 in the offseason

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm furious. GMGM has made a terrible move. We need Zubrus to turn this team around, not another prospect and worthless pick. Bye Bye Season Tickets next year. Nice job GMGM and Ted. I'm thoroughly disappointed in you.

Posted by: chris | February 27, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

How long is this rebuilding going to take? Are we on a 10 year plan? A plan to make the playoffs before OV retires? Does anyone remember how those five year plans worked out for Stalin and the Soviet Union?

Posted by: Lee | February 27, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Im embarrassed to even say Im a Caps fan today.

Does this leave Beech to be the top center?

Posted by: SpendSomeMoney | February 27, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday, 2 Z's. Today, 0 Z's.

Posted by: Tom | February 27, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

At least GMGM had the good sense to get us a center. Theres a chance we can re-sign Zubrus in the offseason. we got another first round draft pick. Not a bad trade, but losing Zuby will hurt for awhile.

Posted by: Graham | February 27, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

you guys have got to be kidding. no way was zubrus worth a first rounder as an impending ufa.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Don't have a prob with buffalo late 1st round pick...this year's draft has nice depth through the top 50 or so. Novotny obviously fits a need at center.

Posted by: usiel | February 27, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=2377&hubname=nhl-sabres

Meh. 3rd line potential? Perhaps equivalent to Zubrus on most teams but further behind on the development curve.

Still failing to see the point of it all. Sure hope we can package some of these picks to move up in the "can't miss" range of the draft since our scouting is weak.

Caps get the offseason to bring in a legit top line center or that's that.

I'd be surprised if Buffalo wants to/can keep Zubrus after this season. They're scraping the cap ceiling. Better situation for him if he can pull it off of course.

Posted by: Shmoo | February 27, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Tarik- How do you think the team will be affected by all these deals today for tonight's game? What do you know of Novotny?

Posted by: kenhockey | February 27, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

McPhee is CRAZY. For a guy that started out his years with the Caps making solid deals...the past few years have been stinkers...! Bye bye McPhee!

Posted by: GM Nuts | February 27, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Well consdiering Zubie was a UFA and not likely to budge off his 5 year request, at least we got something. Still i don't expect Novotny to produce as much a Zubie, nor do I have faith that we'll get much with a late first rounder. At least its something....

Posted by: Brandon | February 27, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Anyone want my seats next year? I sure as hell will not be renewing.

Posted by: Tim | February 27, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think the deal is crap. If McPhee honestly couldn't find a way to spilt the baby on the negotiation then great - we got something.

But what does another virtual 2nd round pick get us... nothing. More rebuilding.

At least now we don't need to split time with Klepis and Beech. They both can play.
On the first two lines... Yea!!!

Lets all shoot for the bottom of the standings!

This team is miserable.

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Are the Caps done? Who else might go?

Posted by: tweety7413 | February 27, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I too would loved Zubrus to stay with the Caps but it wasn't gonna happen, not at 3 Million for five years, never. Considering that, McPhee once again made a very good trade. He's getting a good young NHLer in return (for a 2-month rental!), who's got a lot of upside and will be in Washington for many years to come, can play wing and center. Plus a first rounder. Pierre McGuierre just said, someone's gotta rip the bandit's mask off of McPhee's face because he's ripping off his fellow GMs.
Another very good trade by GMGM.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Woah, what's with everyone's gigantic angst? Is Zubie a good player? Definitely, that's why we got a prospect and center in return.

But you're all acting like we just traded Mario Lemuix for a bag of chips and future considerations.

Zubrus is a player who had potential but never panned out the way we was supposed to. He wanted a 5 year deal, even though he's injury prone and will likely not be able to honor years 4 and 5 of his contract.

Yes, it hurts losing a fan favorite, but the Caps got a solid deal.

Posted by: James | February 27, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

And for Heward: A bucket of pucks.

Posted by: wg | February 27, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

So, in the end, we stand as good a chance of resigning him come July 1st as we did yesterday, baring Zuby suddenly really likeing life in Buffalo. Defiantely gotta be odd suddenly playing with a bunch of guys who you were at war with just over 2 months ago.

A former 1st rounder and a 1st rounder for 2007. It's as good a deal as any other out there. The scouts must have seen something in this kid as his numbers so far are, at best, fair. Looks like another rehab project from his inuries this year.

Posted by: EricS | February 27, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

TSN projects Novotny as a third-line defensive center - about the only position that the Caps have a monopoly. And no doubt Novotny has the stone hands and chip off the boards passing ability of all the other Cap checking forwards.

The first-round pick will be 25th or higher, so little better than a second round pick.

The only way this trade works out for the Caps is if they resign Zubrus in the summer or use the money saved to sign a legitimate, quality NHL playmaking center.

Posted by: Monty | February 27, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Novotny came in at -2 and 13 pts in 50 games for the Sabres in his second NHL season, and his first season was only a 10 game stint... might make a decent 3rd or 4th line center. Hockeysfuture rates him as a B. He's been a star in every non-NHL league he's played in so far.

GMGM HAS to get us a real first line center this summer... and not another Zubrus, I'm talking like a Sundin or a Sakic.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Such a bad move for the Caps. McPhee needs to go.

Posted by: Shari | February 27, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

This team is a mess, and I'm starting to finally get irritated.

Posted by: Ian | February 27, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Best part of the scouting report:

"Doesn't have top-end finishing skills. Must continue to improve his work ethic, since he tends to be lazy at times."

Brilliant. Just what we need, a lazy player who can't finish. I put up with Semin's lack of consistent effort because atleast he finishes.

Buuuut, that being said, another 1st rounder won't hurt. I've got one more year of rebuilding in me and that's it. Next year the Caps should be shooting for the 8 seed if they continue their plan.

Posted by: Yosh | February 27, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Just to echo someone's comment from another thread: the Caps are in the SECOND year of rebuilding, folks. This is not year four of a five-year plan. How long were the Penguins rebuilding before they got to the point this year where they're finally going to make the playoffs? How many top-five draft picks do they have on their roster? A little patience, please...

Posted by: bw | February 27, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Look at what the other sellers are getting. Chicago, Columbus, Boston and so on. When it comes to trades, McPhee is definitely one of the best GMs in the league. I don't think anybody who knows his hockey can dispute that GMGM generally gets a very, very good value in trades.

Posted by: Scai | February 27, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, that stinks. What about keeping a little consistency around here so people can meld and come together as a team.....whatever.......

Posted by: Squirrel Nutkin | February 27, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Have you seen Zubrus lately? He knew he wasn't going to be in DC for long, whether it was after the last game or the deadline. He's not even a top 20 player in the league. He wasn't going to re-sign either. Credit McPhee for getting someone to give them what they got.

Posted by: Frosty | February 27, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Does everybody realize that we just received more for Zubie than St. Louis did for Guerin. Good Deal GMGM

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I hate Buffalo, why couldn't I go somewhere good?

Posted by: Zubie | February 27, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Good deal, GMGM. We were growing old waiting for Zuby to have his breakout year (and if playing with Alex Squared didn't do it, what will?)

Posted by: JWJr | February 27, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I was right. Buffalo.

Posted by: kerplunk | February 27, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Who knows about Jiri...but, in the last 2 seasons GMGM has traded 2 3rd rounders for Zednik and Friesen...and he then turned them into 2 2nd round picks. At this point, he hasn't been given the OK to spend tons of money. About 3.5 mil is still being paid to Jagr. Yes, this team is rebuilding, but at least he is getting value for players who otherwise are likely going to be gone for nothing. Perhaps we'll make a play for Drury with the 3 mil savings from Zubrus. That'd work for me.

Posted by: Jeff | February 27, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I am extremely disappointed. Zubie was NOT an unsignable UFA who vowed to get outta here first train- he just wanted a longterm contract which he deserved!!Somebody somewhere wrote, why dont we just dress Ovie and whos left of Hershey bears, then fill Hershey with all those 18-yr-old draft picks.

Posted by: doug | February 27, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

If you're that upset, you can see Zubrus in his ugly Sabres gear at the season finale, Saturday, Apr 7.

Posted by: Frosty | February 27, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. In terms of a trade, it's okay considering Zubrus' contract status, but I think the Caps would've been better off just giving Zubrus the 5 years at 3 mil. George and Ted better be overpaying for some FA this summer. Even if Backstrom is the real deal, we're still short a center.

Posted by: tallbear | February 27, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Even though we did manage to get a first-round choice for Zubie, I am so tired of the draft choices and prospects this team manages to stock-pile. Trade away yet another veteran leader who accounts for a large proportion of this team's offense for someone who could produce 5 years from now. I do not like this deal, and I do not like the fact that GMGM has resigned himself to believing the Caps need another half-decade of rebuilding!

Posted by: Jon | February 27, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

All of you fans who are applauding this as a good move by GMGM are killing me. Lets see how many scoring chances and along the boards battles our "top line" center wins tonight. Zubrus creates a lot of chances for our team - many more than whoever else will end up filling his spot. GMGM should have signed Zubrus.

Posted by: chris | February 27, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

McGuire (who knows way more about Novotny than anyone here): "Jiri Novotny is a big body who can skate and has excellent skills. The Washington Capitals got very good value here."
It's pretty much consensus - among people who know about hockey and don't base judgement on two sentences on tsn.ca - that the Caps robbed the Sabres with this trade.

Posted by: Scai | February 27, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

This is so disappointing. I'll be buying far fewer tickets next year because of this decision, and now looks like I'll be cheering for Buffalo in the playoffs...

Posted by: Ann | February 27, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

i've got zubie on my fantasy team. maybe he's number will improve once he's not on the crapitals.

this team breaks my heart.

Posted by: jamebow | February 27, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

All I wanted was a long term contract! I've got news for you Mr. McPhee, you haven't heard the last of me. You may think I'm garbage now, but someday you're gonna be sorry you traded me. I'm gonna catch on somewhere else and every time that I play against you I'm gonna stick it up your arse!

Posted by: Zubie | February 27, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

it's offical, the ownership group for the caps, doesen't give a crap about this team or this town. Re-building my butt more like keeping a flot..untill teddy boy can get his hands on what he really wants... the Wizards

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Novotny is not a prospect, he's an NHL-player. He's probably the best young player any selling team received over the last few days.

Posted by: Scai | February 27, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

scai,

Let's be fair, Novotny could be a very good pick up, but he's never really produced at the NHL level (although he's only getting 4th line time in Buff). This is the kind of deal where we look back in two or three years and decide if it was a good deal or not.

Posted by: wry | February 27, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Yosh - here's Zubies profile at TSN:

"Doesn't give an honest effort every night. Lacks consistency. Is still a non-factor in too many games. Was rushed to the NHL and is trying to catch up."

Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: worthless | February 27, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

These trades are what the new NHL is about now, so yes, it's a good deal. Zubrus wanted a 5 year deal, are you kidding me? There are maybe 10 players in the league with this new salary cap who could get a team to commit to one. I doubt you'll call this a bad trade if the Caps take one of the 2 Buffalo star UFAs to be and give them a 5 year deal.

Posted by: Frosty | February 27, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

More about Jiri from Hf

"A great player, offensively gifted, hard working, Novotny can play aggresively and dominate along the boards. Very good skater with a perfect hockey sense and vision. Knows how to use his body, isn't afraid to go the net. Won't be a huge goalscorer but Novotny can make great plays. Very good in the faceoff circle, he can become a faceoff specialist. Great passer, creates perfect scoring chances, an excellent player. Likes to lead his team and he can lead by example. "

Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone think this trade is worthless?

Posted by: Ted | February 27, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with some of you?

"We need Zubrus to turn this team around, not another prospect and worthless pick"

What Dainius Zubrus have you been watching? Don't get me wrong, he's had a solid season, but if you were waiting for Zubrus to resurrect us and become a true No. 1 center, you are sadly mistaken. No chance Zubrus is actually worth a player AND a first-rounder. Great deal by McPhee.

Posted by: Alex | February 27, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. Either they trade him and get something in return and people complain. Or, he leaves as a free agent this off season the caps get nothing. and people complain. that's the one constant with the caps.

Posted by: DC | February 27, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow, are you just whining because you thought the Washington Capitals could rub a lamp and get their three wishes (1st C, 1-2 D) without either paying big bucks or developing them? The Caps are in year 2 of a rebuild, and they've shown me enough that I think they'll make the dance next year, when they said they would. This season their younger players got another year of experience, the Caps are playing better as a team, with energy and some knowledge (but not consistent) of how to close teams out. With age and experience comes consistency. If the Caps are going to grow as a team, they've got to play together. This way we have a solid core group of players with experience playing together, we've got more players in the pipeline, we're developing Capitals, not rental players (Lang, Jagr, Mironov, etc), who will have loyalty to the franchise and to each other.
Zubrus wanted more time than we were willing to give him. It's not like we were skimpy on the money, we just didn't want to commit to a 5-year deal to a player with a history of injuries and no history of consistent production. We got good value for him.
We've got a #1 Center, his name is Nicklas Backstrom, and next year he will make you forget all about Zubrus. Mark my words, you don't have to believe me now, but he's our guy. I don't know much about Novotny, but he looks like a solid player. Only time and a real chance to play will tell.
I wouldn't expect any defenseman to dominate at age 22 or 23, so give Eminger and Morrissonn a chance to develop a little more. They were thrown into the fire pretty young. I wouldn't expect McPhee to get a Peter Bondra in every draft either. Bottom line, McPhee's drafting is good (not great, but good). Every 1st round pick of McPhee's from the time he started in 1998 is playing in the NHL right now. 7 of 11 second rounders in that time have played in the NHL, (and two of those who have not played were drafted in 2004). He's also made picks in the later rounds who have made it to the NHL. I don't expect every draft pick to be a superstar and neither should you, but McPhee hasn't let us down in the draft yet.
We thought we'd make it to the playoffs next year. We were optimistic we'd make it this year, but it wasn't expected. Give the man with the plan a chance. It's not like Zubrus was the missing link. He won't be easy to replace right away, but I think you all are overrating him.

Posted by: Green Machine | February 27, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

GMGM is given a budget from Ted and must work within that framework. It's a shame that Ted won't open up his checkbook abit wider ala Dan Snyder (glad he doesn't own the Caps but his dollars would be wellcome).

Posted by: TKD | February 27, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

@ wry,

that's the case with all these deadline-deals: the selling team (and it's fans) usually doesn't know what it's getting cause the players are so young, so you always could reserve judgement for 2, 3 years. But trades have to be done right now, GMs cannot wait and see how good a particular player will be a few years done the line. Right now I - and a lot of other people at tsn and thn - think, that this was a very good hockey trade for the Caps.
I would have perferred for Zubrus to stay, but it wasn't gonna happen. You don't give a player as injury-prone as Zubrus a 5 year contract for that kind of money.

Posted by: Scai | February 27, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

This is a great trade! When you're out of the playoffs, you've got to trade your unrestricted free agents. Amazingly, we got a first round pick and a very interesting young center out of the deal -- far more than Zubrus is really worth. (We found a desperate, injury-depleted playoff team as a trading partner -- brilliant!)

Plus, I predict the Caps will resign Zubrus. The Caps have the ultimate trump card -- Zubie's brother works in the front office. Playing as Ovie's center isn't a bad incentive either. Zubie is too comfortable here to continue his career elsewhere (unless someone overpays, like Dallas did with Halpern, in which case, they can have him).

Considering the Caps have no need for Zubie in the playoffs this year, this is a great deal for renting him to Buffalo for 2-3 months.

Posted by: 7532 | February 27, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Scai,

I am not sure if you work for McPhee... (he should hire you if you don't already) but the thing is, while its only thing to fleece GMs for he level picks, but its another to able to draft well.

Something McPhee has failed to do. Ergo, what does this trade get us? More 3rd liners and poorly drafted players.

Fire GMGM.

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind them stockpiling young talent like this if the organization had any proven ability to develop young players, but I haven't seen it in the Leonsis/McPhee era. Not counting Ovie, which even they couldn't mess up, has anyone else that's been drafted since '97-'98 amounted to anything at all?

Posted by: zamboni | February 27, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

This is a good deal on two fronts.

First, the Caps get a fully capable NHL player in return.

Second, Drury, Briere, and Zubrus are all UFA's in July. They can lose all 3, and likely 2 out of three. The downfall of Buffalo would be great.

Posted by: Kim | February 27, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

It seems as though we are still "two or three years away" from being a contender. How long before Ovie gets fed up?

Posted by: Clarendon | February 27, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Green Machine - thank you.

It's actually a testament to GMGM and Hanlon that we even spoke of playoffs this year.

Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Obviously zamboni just drove past my post where I mentioned McPhee's drafts. Scroll up a bit.

Posted by: Green Machine | February 27, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I've had faith the team could make the playoffs this year until a couple of weeks ago when they hit the skids. But it happens. It was much later this year than last year wasn't it? Reminds me of the Tampa Bay Lightning a few years ago who won something like 5 times after New Year's Day, four years later they won the Cup.

Give this team some time. It's not like this is a team full of guys like Forsberg, Sundin, etc., it's a team full of hungry players who are trying hard an doing their best. Are they underachieving, no. Ask Olie, he's been the backbone of the team and he's even working hard at this. The Caps aren't going to win the Cup this year, but if they put the right pieces together, they could next year (or at least make the playoffs). You have to find the right pieces and it may not be signing a superstar (remember Jagr), it could be pairing up Novotny with Alex-squared. Or it could be one of the draft picks. GMGM hasn't ruined this team like David Poile did (remember Gartner for eventually nothing! Gartner for Ciccarelli for Kevin Miller who was released). Trading a 3rd round for a player with experience to lend to his youngsters only to pull out a 2nd rounder the following year, not a bad deal.

Posted by: Jarrod | February 27, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

What a joke. Leonsis couldn't run a hot dog stand. Bring back Abe, at least he cared about winning. This idiot is only worried about saving a buck.

Posted by: Digitalman08 | February 27, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I stopped paying my $50 a few weeks ago. This deal doesn't inspire me to start paying it again. I wonder who will center Ovechkin's line tonight... Why are GMGM and Ted killing OV's talent?

Posted by: Finn | February 27, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I hope this isn't deja vu.

Eight or so years ago at the trade deadline we traded Juneau, a scoring forward, to Buffalo for a former first rounder named Tezikov who was billed by GM as a future top-4 NHL defenseman. Tezikov never made it in the NHL as a defenseman, even a 7th defenseman.

Several years ago at the trade deadline we traded Grier, a gritty forward and team player who was apparently good in the locker room, to Buffalo for a former first rounder named Klepis, who at least was scouted as having the potential to be a solid scoring line center and who was billed by the GM as a future scoring line center for the Caps. Three years later and Klepis hasn't even demonstrated consistent scoring ability in the AHL.

Now at the trade deadline we trade Zubrus, a gritty forward and team player who apparently was a good friend of the two Alexes, to Buffalo for a former first rounder named Novotny who is scouted as having no greater potential than a third-line checking center. No doubt GM will comment that Novotny will soon be a quality scoring center for the Caps.

Through these years Buffalo continues to get better and better. And the Caps continue to make these trades with Buffalo.

Posted by: Monty | February 27, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

at least one thing is clear, Sabres got a great deal. Beware Sens, Zubbie is coming to crush you in the corners.

Posted by: alex | February 27, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

You guys crack me up.

from the sounds of it, negotiations didn;t go horribly, so you die hard zubrus fans who won't buy tickets unless Zuby is here, the caps might get a chance to re-sign him in the summer.

This team has ovechkin, semin, kolzig, backstrom, green, and some ofyou are crying that you won't sopend money because we don't have zubrus. Priceless

Posted by: Graham | February 27, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

If you don't beleive me look at his drafting record.

Since he became GM in 1997 - beginning with the Draft Class of 1998 (a total of 8 draft classes) do you know how many regluar NHLers he drafted AFTER the 1st round that play for this team?

Just 2 - Sutherby and Pettinger and they were 2nd rounders in 2000.

That's it. The rest of those guys, sans the some of the first rounders, are just bust after bust.

Take a look at the list...

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr000049.html


Fire GMGM

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

For those people who thought we should get a player in exchange for Zubrus? Any good player like Guerin has a no trade clause in their contract they must wave and they would not want to come here instead of a STanley Cup contender. And we did get more for Zubrus than StL got for Guerin.

GMGM got the best deal out of this and Buffalo will get nothing for their rental player once they lose in the first round.

Also, I agree with the other postee, this is the 2nd year of the rebuilding process.

I do think they need to go spend this off season and I would imagine they would. In years past, they may not have gotten as much as they were asking this year in trades (i.e. they just dumped players). Now they have a plan.

Do not panic folks.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | February 27, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

You forget the Caps were making the playoffs in the those first few years and not getting high draft choices. How could Ted spend more money when they broke the bag on Jagr, which EVERYONE loved at the time. Now you want him to do it again. Not gonna happen with the salary cap.

Posted by: Frosty | February 27, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Ted,

"Green Machine": funny user name.

Posted by: Clarendon | February 27, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow. The take here is all over the place.

All I can say is, the sky isnt falling. This move will NOT make or break the chances of future success with this franchise.

I know many fans like Zubrus, as do I. But you cant honestly say with a straight face that this one move ruins our chances down the road.

Posted by: thecheat | February 27, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Some of you don't know what you're talking about.

Why would the Capitals re-sign Zubrus for $3 million per year for...how many years...when they can go out and sign someone else for the same price who is more geared towards their needs--namely a playmaking center? Zubrus is not the offensive forward this team needs. The only reason he has 20 goals this year is because he plays with Ovechkin. Look at Chris Clark--he has more goals than Zubrus and no one would ever mistake him for a scoring line forward.

Posted by: aybee | February 27, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Great trade. Zubrus is not the answer for rebuilding. He is not a top line center or winger. I hope he does not come back this summer. We were lucky to get a first for him. Incredible that there are some who expect a top line performer back in return. They have no understanding of the game. Now we are free of his salary and can go forward in free agency for fixes to the roster. A center and d-man and we are right in the thick of things without blocking the development of the kids in the system who should be ready in a couple of years. Great moves again by Caps management.

Posted by: Ken | February 27, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Guess I'm missing something, but Novotny & a 1st for a guy who wanted wayyyy too much $$$$ and was, basically, playing out of position anyway? Why does this make GMGM a slob? I think this is a pretty good deal. I also think Zednik for a 2nd is a steal. Looks like GMGM did good work.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

C-A-P-S

Sutherby was a first rounder, you idiot

Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Holy cow is Zubrus overrated here. He's a good 2nd line -winger- who was a detriment to the power play. Caps got good value for an impending UFA who wanted an absurdly long contract.

Most Caps fans - whine first, think never.

Posted by: DWard71 | February 27, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I dont agree with the trade (completely based on emotion because I really like Zubie) but I do think GMGM got a good deal for him.

Posted by: LB | February 27, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

C-A-P-S

Take a look at all the Allstars drafted from 94-97.

I'm not trying to bash Poile or praise GMGM, just prove that you don't get it.

Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey DWard71 - Have you seen our second line. People upset here aren't mad that Zubrus isn't going to be our first line center. They are upset because we need forwards on all lines that play like Zubrus does, not AHL scrubs or hopefuls. Zubrus was worth the $$ as a second line wing. Instead we have one less experienced player and totally screwed up our locker room chemistry

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

So all you naysayers would've given him a 5 year deal? For how much $? Or you wouldn't have dealt him and let him walk free as a UFA without getting anything back in return?

It almost sounds like a lot of you want the "good old days" back when the Caps made the playoffs every year, lost in the first round, and got terrible draft position for their efforts. Yes, please, let's go back to mediocrity year after year.

Posted by: Burgh32 | February 27, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I was a first round pick, geez people, research a little before posting....

Posted by: Suts | February 27, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Who is going to play center tonight??? What's our top line going to look like?
Ovechkin - AHL flop - AHL flop???

Posted by: Finn | February 27, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@ C-A-P-S,

of course I don't work for McPhee, and I have to agree, his drafting record is not very good. It seems to have gotten better the last few years, but so far, the Caps under McPhee have done at best an average job at the draft-table. But here we're talking trades and I really think that most of GMGMs trades - not all of them - are good or very good trades. And I don't see how anyone can not agree that McPhee got very good value for Zubrus.

Posted by: Scai | February 27, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how Novotny will fare in tonight's game...oh wait! He can't play. He's injured. And has missed the last 4 of the Sabres games due to an ankle injury.

Way to go, McPhee. A decent player and team leader for an injured one. And a first round pick from the sucky draft class this year. You truly are awesome. Teach me your ways.

Posted by: Shari | February 27, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

2Burgh32

"mediocrity year after year" Yeah! And not we're GRRRRREAT!

LOL

Posted by: Finn | February 27, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The main question is whether ornot Draft day will be a bigger whine fest than today. Stop whining

Posted by: Graham | February 27, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I disagree. This deal worked out ok for us. Lets face it, Zubrus is a 2nd line winger. Signing a long-term deal with him would have handcuffed the caps from picking up what they desperatley need - a first line center. Preferably Datsyuk which Ovie played AWSOME with in Russia.

The question is now - this summer are the caps going to make that move?

Posted by: OV | February 27, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA, suckers! My knee is fine and I am going to spend the rest of the season kicking back and relaxing while the team struggles to make it respectable.

See you next year.

Posted by: Olie | February 27, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow Dino - good catch. In 9 years he only drafted 1 player as a regular NHLer after the first round. I stand corrected...

Silly me thinking he could actually draft 2 NHL players after the 1st round in 8 years.

I am the idiot... he DOES know how to draft.

Oh and Dino instead of just taking a narrow view and examining the lean years of 94-97 go back a bit further. You when Poile did most of his drafting for the Caps...

88- Keith Jones #141
89- Jason Wooley - #62
Trent Klatt - #81
90- Bondra - #156
Klee - #171
91- Kono - #58
92- Jim Carey - #32
93- Andrew Brunette - #174


The POINT Dino is that "good" GMs can draft regualr NHLers AFTER the 1st round. Poile did that repeatedly during his tenure.

In 8 years GMGM has only drafted one NHL regular - Pettinger.

Good eye though Dino and good analysis.

Fire GMGM.

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

This situation was avoidable.

This situation was avoidable had the Caps management properly recognized last summer that the team had a gigantic hole in the lineup at the scoring center position and needed to sign a veteran scoring center - not a superstar - like Perrault who made less this year than Zubrus. Instead the Caps went into the season with Zubrus (an out-of-position winger), Beech (a 25 year old who never demonstrated consistent scoring ability in the NHL), and Klepis (a young center who never even demonstrated scoring ability in the AHL).

Had the team signed a modest scoring center like Perrault, it would not have been necessary for the Caps to give Zubrus the top-line scoring center position next to Ovechkin, who makes all his linemates scorers, and Zubrus also would not have been essentially the pivot on the 1st PP unit, who amassed nearly half his points there in spite of his very limited playmaking ability.

Had the Caps gotten a modest scoring center and played Zubrus in his true position - winger on the second line - and third forward on the PP (or on the second unit), Zubrus would not have amassed the points he did, and he and his agent would not have had the leverage to demand a five-year, $3 million + contract from McPhee. The demands would have been more in tune with Zubrus' value on a normal NHL team (i.e., a team that has six scoring forwards instead of two like the Caps (i.e., Ovechkin and Semin)).

In sum, the Caps' penny-pinching last summer came back to bite them this month in the negotiations with Zubrus, and left them with no option except to trade him.

Posted by: Monty | February 27, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh My God. I see team sucks. I must leave.

Posted by: Ovechkin | February 27, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

George: I am rested up and ready to play, when can I start?

Jim "The Net Detective" Carey

Posted by: Jim Carey | February 27, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Scai,

I definitely think he is shrewd negotiator. But his drafting after the 1st round is atrocious and his 1st round picks are about 50/50.

I would say his biggest knock on him during the first round is that he reaches for players in the first, when in all likelihood he could have selected them later in the draft - (See for example Gordon, Pokuluk, Fehr, Finley)

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Suckers.

P. Bondra

Posted by: Peter | February 27, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Right on C-A-P-S

McPhee gave us Freisen, Cassels, Sykora, Mjeski etc... Those gusy worked out great(he he)
He's drafted extremely poorly except for the hight no brainer picks (Ovie and Backstrom). I'm all about firing McPhee.

Posted by: OV | February 27, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Ovechkin but you're stuck here for at least 5 more years. As for GMGM this is a good trade. The blame for this organization lies mostly with Ted and the shoestring budget he gives McPhee. However, as has been pointed out our drafting sucks. Until one or the other changes we will continue to be lousy. Zubris or no Zubris, who is ridiculously overrated by many on this board. Now GMGM has 4 picks in the top 2 rds he better wheel and deal some of those and sign a Gomez or Briere type free agent or the phone booth will be even emptier.

Posted by: eric, baltimore | February 27, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Green Machine - My problem with the Caps' isn't drafting, it's development. How many of those first round picks playing in the NHL have amounted to anything?

'99
Beech has had plenty of time to be better than this.

'00
Sutherby is a decent defensive forward, but again, where's the year-to-year improvement? Pettinger, while not a first-rounder, is the only one up to this point who has shown any improvement in his game.

'02
Eminger and Gordon have been very disappointing compared to the rest of their draft class (Nash, Lehtonen, Bouwmeester, Pitkanen, Upshall, Lupul). I'd expect both of them to be farther along than they are, considering where they were taken. The jury's still out on Semin, in my opinion this season is a fluke, but I'll give it to you.

'03
Fehr is still young, but nearly everyone drafted in front of him is playing in the NHL right now.

'04
Ovechkin, obviously, is in another league compared to these guys.

It's not fair to go past that, of course, but based on the Caps' current track record of developing their players I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: zamboni | February 27, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Fire Hanlon too!

Posted by: Semin | February 27, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Hmm...GMGM flat out robs Darcy Regier, then goes out in the offseason and trades those 1st and 2nd rounders we picked up the last 2 days for a 2-3 defenseman, then goes and signs a Drury / Briere / Datsuyk and Souray. Sounds like a good strategy to me.

Let's face it, people--Dainius Zoooobrus is not, was not, and never will be, the second coming of Mark Messier. He's a big body that, in reality, only scores because he's on a line with Ovechkin (see: Chris Clark). He's not what the Caps need, and there are quite a few guys out there who the Caps can bring in to take his place. The real issue today and for the future is: what will McPhee do with those picks he acquired? If he keeps them, then we know management views the rebuilding process as longer than the fans think it is. If, however, management goes out and trades those picks for tangible players not named Peter Bondra, and goes out and picks up impact free agents, then we'll know Ted and McPhee are serious about winning. Only time will tell.

Posted by: Right Winger | February 27, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

First, everyone get back to work.

Second, all of you who are threatening to turn in your season tickets cause of this trade, please do so...more room for me. And when the team is making a playoff push next year, please continue to stay away. Otherwise, you are nothing but fair-weather front-runners. The team was rebuilding this year and made no secret about it. So chill and either enjoy the games because you love hockey or go away and don't come back.

Posted by: Relax | February 27, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh and Dino... Poile also managed this as well during those lean years you mentioned of 94-97:

94- Zednik #249
96- Bulis #43


And OVY - don't forget about great additions like Alexei Tezikov, Mironov, Zettler, Kucera, Ciernik, Doig and Berry.

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

retarded retarded retarded retarded move

absolutely retarded retarded retarded

Posted by: retarded | February 27, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"Oh My God. I see team sucks. I must leave"

Did I say that? my english is bad. I meant "The Fan really, really, SUCKS!!!"

I mean REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, SUCKS!

Posted by: OVECHKIN | February 27, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong.

I think if the deal could not get completed, which obviously it didn't, he definitely got value from Buffalo for an impending UFA.

However, they should have found a way to find a middle ground. And in light of his drafting record, I don't think he will make the most of these draft picks.

The fact of the matter is starting next season with a 19-20 year old kid as your first line center is just too much to ask. Unless they spend some serious cash to upgrade the center position they are going to have serious problems competing next year.

They still need to spend some money to bring in a veteran or two to stablize the youngsters on the blue line.

Fire GMGM

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

All you Zubrus lovers be sure and stay home for Ovechkin and Semin so that when they leave you can have more fodder for complaining.

Posted by: Graham | February 27, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow, it's like wandering through the message board without all the sigs and pictures. Considering that Ted has lost over 100 mil on the team since he bought it I'm suprised he cares at all. personally, I think he's one of the best owners in sports and anyone who thinks Dan Snyder shoudl own the team must be high on something right now. Also, it's not like Ted is Peter Angelos. Pete's always made money on the O's, and yet he's still a *phallic object*.

What really suprises me is that Heward and Clymer are still around. I woudlthink someone would be in the market for a tested veteran or two.

Good trade all in all. Looking forward to the offseason.

Posted by: EricS | February 27, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I would like to just chime in and ask you all questions and possibly answer some of yours(since I dont have a real account with your forums).

First of all, is Zubrus more suited for Center or RW? Is he solid defensively? Good locker room guy? Physical?

And I would like to point out that Novotny doesn't have much potential for the NHL sadly. I had such high hopes for him and really wished he would make it. But to be honest, he won't last in the NHL past 26/27 years old. He's just not cut out for it. Poor work ethic and a bit lazy.

Posted by: Buffalo Fan here | February 27, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

why not just trade ov and get more picks
maybe we can draft stalls 3rd cousin

Posted by: retractthecaps | February 27, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

It sounded like on 980 radio a few moments ago, GMGM said the Caps will make some big free agent moves this summer.
In light of Hanlon telling Elliott a few months ago,that Zubrus was his favorite player, they better be, or it's more rebuilding for a few years.

Posted by: BrdSmudgr | February 27, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey Buffalo Fan here - nice to hear from you. I grew up in Buff but live in DC now so cheer both teams. I believe he is more natural RW and very good locker room guy.

Posted by: SlapMe | February 27, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

The thing I don't understand is the "rebuilding" part. There is no building here when you get rid of valuable parts. No, Zubrus was not Forsberg, but he was a hard worker whom we could count on and whom we liked. He wasn't a natural 1st-line center, but he centered Ovie in his first year in the league, and did a pretty freakin' good job. Zubrus would have made an integral part of a contending Caps team next year. Instead, we're back to year zero. Maybe there'll be some big free agent signings next year, but then we're not rebuilding, we're just buying up, which we could have also done with Zubie in the lineup. Makes no sense to me why GMGM didn't get Zubrus signed.

He needs to go, along with Hanlon.

Posted by: katzistan | February 27, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Suckers

Posted by: GMGM | February 27, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand. It's not like Zubrus was some 37-year-old veteran the Caps were trying to unload to rebuild and get younger. He's still fairly young and would seem to be the very type of guy you want on a "rebuilding" squad. To essentially start over with an even younger center and a draft pick that will likely yield another fourth line grinder is confusing to say the least.
Is Kip Miller available?

Posted by: Mike | February 27, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

With Brash, Bradley, Beech, and Clymer still on the roster we'll be just fine.
Oh...wait....no we wont. Why didn't we get rid of Clymer and Heward today?

Posted by: Chris | February 27, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

it doesnt matter how much money you have why would anybody want to come here all were going to do is over pay some 2nd-3rd line player to come here and when he bombs teddy and gmgm are going to say ''we tried to sign a player and look what happened''How much better would this team be with Robert Lang at center he produced in his 1 plus tenure or what about nylander.Besides nobody cares in this area anyway even if this team signed briere and our picks pan out they could go to the finals (see 1998)they still wont get as much love or attention then a 6-10 or 5-11 redskins team SO just count the days you see alexander ovechkin because i guarentee ted will not pony up to keep him and why should he

Posted by: retractthecaps | February 27, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

"This team has ovechkin, semin, kolzig, backstrom, green, and some ofyou are crying that you won't sopend money because we don't have zubrus." Priceless

Let's see...Green's in AHL, Olies out for season,Backstrom aint even HERE yet,Semin wont play D, Ovechkin- hey, we got Ovechkin.
THATS priceless.

Posted by: nut brown ale | February 27, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Mike Vogel is reporting that another trade was made under the wire and that it will be announced as soon as the league reviews.

Posted by: rumor mill | February 27, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse


"Yesterday, 2 Z's. Today, 0 Z's."

Careful -- don't give GMGM any ideas or he might try to trade Ryan Zimmerman

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The CAPS are totally worth a $90 ticket! Give me a break Leonisis, the few games I've gone to this year and practically depleted my savings account. NO MORE. What a joke, I miss the late 90's.

Posted by: bms | February 27, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Just heard GMGM on 980 radio, and he said they offered a 3 or 4 year deal for Zubrus.
He had nothing but nice things to say about the way Zubrus and his agent went about the negotiations. Seems to me that Zubrus was determined to leave one way or the other. 4 years certainly would seem fair to me. More than fair. Let's give Novotny a chance.

Posted by: kenhockey | February 27, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

C-A-P-S:

So Poile get the benefit of lean years, but GMGM doesn't? I don't want to turn into a GMGM apologist or a Poile hater but you have to consider:

Reggie Savage and Tim Taylor were picked ahead of Keith Jones. John Slaney & Rod Pasma were taken before Poile found Peter Bondra & Ken Klee. Perrenial never-weres in Trevor Halverson, Eric Lavigne, & Jeff Nelson were drafted by Poile before he found sanctuary in Steve Konowalchuk. Patrick Boileau, Frank Banham, Dan Hendrickson and a bag of pucks were found before Andrew Brunette. Yet another coup taking Nolan Baumgartner & Alexander Kharlamov before Richard Zednik. Alexandre Volchkov & Jaroslav Svejkovsky were taken ahead of Jan Bulis. Other first round gems include Jeff Greenlaw, Brad Church, Miika Elomo, and Nick Boynton.

All of these guys played important roles in keeping the Caps in contention all those years and certainly laid the groundwork for GMGM to have immediate success.

The point is, every GM in the leauge passed over these guys at least once. Finding gems in late rounds is not a science nor an art. It's a pure crapshoot.

Outside of one BIG trade, GMGM has outdone Poile almost every time. As far as drafting, neither one strikes me as great, but nor are they nearly as bad as you accuse GMGM to be.


Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion Zubrus has been a bust since day 1.I couldn't believe how good he was playing at the beg. of the year. Coincidently the Caps came out playing some surprisingly good hockey. As the year went on and they slowed down in the standings, Zubie was nowhere. how many times did Ovie set him up for a wide open one-timer and he'd miss the net. To think some GM would give anything, let alone what Buffalo gave, to me is unbelievable. Let's stop all the GMGM bashing, until this guy is allowed to work with an NHL size payroll, I think all blame should go to the coach. I would love to rip Ted for his non-spending, the 14 million their under the cap this year, but when Ovie gets his first real NHL contract, that figure will be cut in half at the least. I'm now convinced Hanlon is not the right coach for this team. Nice guy-Absolutely. Championship coach-I don't think so. Lets get B. Boudreau(?) up here from Hershey before another team beats us to it.

Posted by: BobbyG | February 27, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Jamie Heward to the Los Angeles Kings for a conditional fifth-round pick in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft

Posted by: GMGM | February 27, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Dino,

Look in GMGM's case there are no lean years. Every year he has stuck. That's not the case with Poile.

In 8 years, all GMGM came up with after the 2nd round was Pettinger. Over any 8 year period that Poile was here, he drafted a boat load of NHL ready players.

My point is you don't need the hit the bullseye everytime, but you at least have to hit the dartboard.

As for first rounders. Poile still selected better and with later picks than GMGM. Here's my top three Kolzig, Gonch, and Witt.

Your turn... I suppose it will be Ovy, Semin and ____?

Posted by: C-A-P-S | February 27, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

No Zed.
No Zubbie.
No season tickets next year.

Posted by: Section 404 | February 27, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm even more distraught after reading Zubrus' quote in Tarik's last article. He clearly has been treated with disrespect here by our organization. I hope he reconsiders playing with us at the end of the season. Good going GMGM

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

A blind man could have drafted Ovechkin! Keep him out of it. GMGM cannot draft! Scouting is miserable. Losing Zubrus is crazy. He is an NHL player, not an AHL player. The Caps need more NHL players, not prospects of draft picks. The history should have taught Ted and GMGM that they cannot develop those prospects and they cannot draft well. So don't lose the players who want to play here... But who cares? We're 'rebuilding', 'give 'em a chance' etc... There's always next year. This has always been the loosers' motto

Posted by: Finn | February 27, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Now Heward is gone---for nothing. I hope the rest of the team doesn't fall apart tonight. Ironically, the next game I planned on attending was April 7---"fan appreciation day....."

Posted by: depressedcapsfan | February 27, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

C-A-P-S

Backstrom of course! I think when it's all said and done you'll include Green in there, too.

But, it's waaaay too early to tell, as your 3 have all but finished their distinguished careers. I think your assessment of GMGMs first round drafting is way premature.

GMGM certainly missed it with Beech and Sivek, although I think Beech would have been just fine in the "old" NHL - he is a Brunette/Allison clone. Sutherby certainly won't make the grade if stats are the only consideration (I am personally not a fan of him) Eminger, Semin, and Gordon - too early to really tell. They'll all play in the NHL for awhile, but how they fare long-term, who knows? As for the others, except for AO, too early to grade.

Don't forget Gartner and Carpenter;)

Posted by: dinoflint | February 27, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

This is pretty amazing stuff. I don't know when Zubie became a true #1 center in this league, but if you read the GMGM haters, he's right up there. The fact is the only two people who thought he was a #1 center were his agent and him. More power to them, but it would have been idiotic to pay #1 center money to Zubie.

That said, he was gone. To get a first rounder & an ACTUAL center (and a big, young one to boot) for a guy who had one foot out the door is pure robbery. I know there were concerns about Novotny's work ethic, but we heard all about Jurcina's lack of toughness when he came over from Boston & he's been pretty much everything we could hope for.

Settle down folks, this is a 3 year ride to playoff respectability and we haven't reached the destination yet.
I am concerned that Uncle Ted won't open up the coffers for FA this off-season, but I think GMGM's done a good (grade: B) job w/what he's had. Keep him!

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

im just repeating what others said, why dident we get rid of clymer or heward?
People seriously have to stop complaining, this season is lost. if you dont make it to the playoffs, the season is lost. not in the sence that our young players arent developing, that it doesent matter where we finnish we dont have a chance for the cup. actualy it does, but we want to get the worst possible finnish so we can grab a 1,2,or 3 top pick. why keep an "average, never reached full potental, 2nd liner seeking a 1st line contract, who we could actualy resign in the offseason." we need to sell the farm this season and gear up for next season. why keep him? chemistry, um at this point i dont care about the chemistry between him and ovechkin when he would probally not be on the same line.
We have to be honest with our selves, why sign him to a long contact when it could and probally would lead holding the caps back when they are themselves making the push for the cup, not just the playoffs.you do remember, the point of this stupid game is to win the stanly cup, not pleasing the fans.not pleasing the fans who cant count, were in year 2 or 4 or 5.
Caps drafting has been iffy, but with the most first rounders i the last 5 or so years then any other team...a few have to pan out and the ones who dont, we'll ship em off to another team for an impact player.
Zubrus was jus flat out boring, when chris clark has more goals than you, its says somein about you goal scoring ability. me personaly wanted him to move to the right wing on the top line, a perfect fit with a dominat center. i just dont se zubrus surpasing his career high with any other team, because on any other team he wouldent be pared with a superstar.
its a good deal, a bussiness deal.

and shut up with firing GMGM, are we really gonna have to put up with that crap for another year...hes gonna stay around AT LEAST!!! another year and a half, so until nest year, can we give it a brake?

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I dont like to see that Zubrus left for a #3 center and a late 1st round draft pick. It shows a lack of willingness to rebuild anytime soon when you let your best players go even though you have the lowest payroll in the league, and players to build around. Zubie may be inconsistent but at least he busted his tail for the team and helped sell tickets. He was by far one of our best scorers and players, albeit on a weak team. GMGM is accumulating draft picks, but coupled with his obvious lack of draft successes, will hold this team back for the next 10 years.

Posted by: RHolt | February 27, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

timbers

Posted by: timbers | February 27, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

RHolt, so trading Zubrus just now sent the team back 10 years, damn maybe you should be the new GMGM, or GM

Posted by: timbers | February 27, 2007 6:33 PM | Report abuse

The mangement (and owner especially) have the wrong mentality to ever make this a winning team again.

Posted by: Digitalman08 | February 27, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

McPhee committed robbery today; no GM in their right mind would give a player of Zubrus' calibre a deal for 5 years. That's just crazy, or do you people want Jagr part II? You've got a decent player in Novotny, and a draft pick.
It's a solid trade; better to get something for Zubrus now than nothing come July (or would have Zubrus around for a few meaningless games between now and early April be the way to go?). I realise he's a fan favourite, but honestly...not exactly a superstar. You want screwed? Look at Edmonton; they traded Ryan Smyth for next to nothing.

Posted by: cdngoalie | February 27, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I've watched the Caps for 27 years now (I'm in my 30's). That's a lot of sucking. I'm getting tired of whining though.

More recently I just kinda tune the constant sucking sound out, hibernate, and listen for the cheers of a good year or two every now and then.

That doesn't make me a fair weather fan, it makes me a Caps Fan Survivor.

It's all part of Ted's 5 year plan to breed Hibernating Super Fans.

He plans to harvest us based on our posts here and sell our hearts and other vital organs to places like Phoenix for high draft picks.

No, actually I do get the sense we have a decent plan. Maybe it will even work one yeaZzzzzzz...

Posted by: HSF #0042618836.18c | February 27, 2007 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Zubrus leaving is not holding this team back, GMGM's inability to grade talent is holding this team back. Trading players for more picks will magnify it. Getting draft picks that he is sure to waste will hold this team back. His ineptitude is easily seen looking at his lack of draft success stories.

Posted by: Timber is Right | February 27, 2007 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Atlanta was by far the biggest loser, getting so little in return for soo much. compared with the other teams in the nhl, the caps did quite well on the deadline, especialy geting a 1,2 rounders. i dont care if is a late one,i personaly do not nkow about the talent,but i do nkow its not top heavey so a guy who was projected high 1st rounder could fall to late 1st round where our pick i located.

Posted by: timbers | February 27, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

iz located

Posted by: Anonymous | February 27, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

You guys are awesome. SO when the verizon center remains empty year after year and Ted doesn't spend because fans won't come you will really have shown him! coughsection404cough.

No Zed? No problem
No Zubrus? Stings, but not the end of the world
No season tickets next year? Good, I woudln;t want to sit next to a whiner anyway

Posted by: Graham | February 27, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

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