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Posted at 2:00 PM ET, 08/26/2008

Gustav Could Become a Giant

By Jason Samenow

Gustav officially became a hurricane early this morning, and its eye made landfall on the southwest peninsula of Haiti shortly after 1 p.m. At 2 p.m., Gustav was a Category 1 storm with maximum sustained winds near 90 mph. Hype about this storm is already buzzing around the blogosphere...

The Weather Nerd blog writes: "Gustav could be the season's first real 'blockbuster' storm."

SeaBlogger cautions: "Expect a cat 4 or 5 cyclone to be making headlines in a few days, if Gustav's core stays over open water south of Cuba."

Keep reading for more on Gustav and an interactive tracking map. For the local weather outlook, see our full forecast as well as NatCast and Skinscast, and check out CWG's coverage of Do-I-Have-To-Decide '08.

Even the more conservative National Hurricane Center warned this morning: "Most indications are that Gustav will be an extremely dangerous hurricane in the northwestern Caribbean sea in a few days."

It's likely Gustav will take a hit as it crosses the rugged terrain of Haiti. Meteorologist Jeff Master's at wunderground forecasts: "Expect at least a 25 mph decrease in Gustav's winds by Wednesday, after it encounters Haiti."

When Gustav re-emerges in the very warm waters of the northwest Caribbean, intensification may be rapid. This assumes Gustav remains south of Cuba and over open water. Interaction with land will limit Gustav's intensity.

Computer models suggest Gustav should track towards the Yucatan Peninsula and Gulf of Mexico five days from now. Beyond that, the forecast is less clear. But Gustav certainly has the potential to be a serious threat to Mexico and/or the United States in the next week to 10 days.

Track Gustav and several other areas of disturbed weather in the tropics, using the interactive map below...

Powered by hurricane-tracking software from Pan, zoom, and click on points along the storm's projected track for intensity forecasts.

By Jason Samenow  | August 26, 2008; 2:00 PM ET
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Gustav's small eye can now be seen on visible satellite imagery:

I wonder how much it will weaken due to land interaction.

Posted by: Model Monkey | August 26, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

The prospect of Gustav in the Gulf is driving up natural gas prices.


Posted by: CapitalClimate | August 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Nice, another hurricane Katrina, least for the current track...get ready nawleans

Posted by: cmack | August 26, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, Well, Well. A Major Hurricane right in time for the Republican Convention ----did MoveOn.Org plan this? Hey President Bush---start warning the people now along the Gulf Coast to give the idiot New Orleans Mayor and Govenor enough time to start planning.

Posted by: greg | August 26, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I hope it doesn't cause too much damage anywhere...we should fire silver iodide pellets into it, pour vegetable oil over the ocean and tug an iceberg into the storm.

Posted by: oh no | August 26, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

The last post is a good one, you know whats going to happen now.

Look another hurricane lets raise prices on gas and then the candidates can promise to lower the prices to get your vote...LOL

Posted by: Bobbo | August 26, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Too bad icebergs are scarce these days...

Posted by: mark | August 26, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

A direct hit from this hurricane could wipe New Orleans completely off the map. Now where will the next capital of Mardi Gras be, Baton Rouge, LA? If Gustav heads that way, then lighter traffic in Houston caused by record gas prices will be no more and traffic jams will be like 2007 all over again. Then of course, not to mention that oil prices are expected to hit $150/barrel in two weeks from now as a result of Gustav.

Posted by: Joe | August 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, we're ready here in New Orleans. And watching this storm like you would not believe.

Posted by: NOLAgirl | August 26, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey New Orleans .. start your looting now 'cause you know what they say .. he who get their first-ists gets the most-ists. Hurry or there won't be anything left; let the lames land on the nightly news.

Posted by: Truth Sayer | August 26, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if they will Blame George Bush for this hurricane also

Posted by: Joe | August 26, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm ready in New Orleans. Ten cases of MRE's, 24 cases of water, a 15kW generator and an AR-15. Bring it on Gustav.

Posted by: junior | August 26, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Gustav is currently getting a beating from interaction with Hispaniola.

Posted by: Ian, Capital Weather Gang | August 26, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

More likely the poor souls on Hispanola are getting a beating from Gustav.

Posted by: Peacoats | August 26, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

There is a chance that New Orleans could be spared from this one. Gustav could hit anywhere on the Gulf coast. I'm packing up and getting ready for evacuation right now. I already have my emergency supplies that were acquired when Tropical Storm Edouard became a hurricane threat.

Posted by: Joe | August 26, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

And the oil traders ordered chanpagne.....

Posted by: James | August 26, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Can we get rid of the incoherent, racist and insensitive political ranting that's going on here?

This is not the kind of posting I'm used to seeing here. If this kind of chatter belongs anywhere, it's certainly not this site.

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh my god, a blog said it will be bad. It's the end of the world!

Posted by: jack hoff | August 26, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Just to clarify, I was referring to a few posts back. Before we started talking about Hispanola.

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

We are ready for it as we were for Katrina - at least myself and my family. We rode that one out and remained dry and will ride out any other to the best of our ability.

Posted by: RealNola | August 26, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

for you fear mongers.....remember, a hurricane can always, and more than likely, weaken

Posted by: wm musson | August 26, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"They" don't blame Bush for the hurricane. "They" blame Bush for not caring.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Wonder how much the price of gasoline will go up as a result of Gustav????

Posted by: Jim | August 26, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Natural gas finishes off the highs, but still up 5.8%.


Posted by: CapitalClimate | August 26, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

For all who live in gulf coastal cities, we know what we need to do to prepare. If you don't have a plan, get one. Expect a rise in gas prices, so keep your tank filled and get those gas cans!

Posted by: gulfcoastgirl | August 26, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, WaPo's definition of "personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material" is extremely broad. The comments to news articles, which are apparently not monitored at all, are completely unreadable.


Posted by: CapitalClimate | August 26, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

any chance this will affect our area? i'm getting married in 2.5 weeks, could it make it's way up here that slowly, even in the form of just plain 'ol rain?

Posted by: Rishi | August 26, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Rishi, it's unlikely that this storm will affect your wedding. (And congratulations)

Posted by: Murre | August 26, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

What is there to fear? The worst thing that can happen is death and that is not the end.

Posted by: JS | August 26, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

OK, seriously. Hello? Someone? Filter?

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Gustav who? Relax guys its headed for Yucatan.

Posted by: POIUY | August 26, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Laura, I couldn't agree with you more.

Anyone know what the likelihood of this taking a turn out to the Atlantic?

Posted by: Nathan | August 26, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Ok all, this is getting off topic quickly. Regardless of the comments and the directions they are taking, it is important to remember that Gustav is likely to pose a threat to something, and a very credible threat at that, so everyone should be on the lookout.

Posted by: Jamie Jones, CapitalWeather Gang | August 26, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Are you seriously that offended? It's just mindless rant and meaningless babble, obviously not from anyone with any sense or intelligence. Take it for what it is or go back to your sheltered, censored little life.

Posted by: Filter This | August 26, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I've seen CWG delete posts that were less offensive and less off-topic. Posts by people who are not interested in doing anything other than making assumptions about the people who were left behind during Katrina, or who enjoy joking about population decreases ought to be deleted from the comments page. These posts are incoherent, ignorant, and off topic.

Until comments like these are moderated, I'll be looking for my Gustav news elsewhere. Sadly, because CWG has until this moment been my favorite source for intelligent discussion on the WEATHER.

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Somebody help me.

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree Laura but don't let others ignorance ruin your day or a site you enjoy. Just ignore them and don't be so reactionary, that's what they want anyways.

Posted by: Enjoy Life a Little | August 26, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I live southwest of New Orleans and I can honestly say that if Gustav packs a punch like Katrina; New Orleans will be seriously in trouble. After all, they let Army Corp of Idiots re-build the levys back the same - like 5 tons of marshmallows and 2 tons of chocolate pudding - so there is NO way the levys' will hold at all! They are already springing leaks all over the place. New Orleans is doomed if this thing hits anywhere close to New Orleans. Southeast of New Orleans is Plaquemines Parish and those poor people got ZERO money to rebuild their levy system and that's the first defense for New Orleans. This city is obviously ran by vacious idots and the biggest one is the mayor!

Posted by: Yanola | August 26, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Laura, the comments will be cleaned up. I think we must have gotten an outside link as there are a lot of people who seem to never post here causing problems.

Posted by: Ian, Capital Weather Gang | August 26, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I get what you're saying, ELAL. (Not the "sheltered, censored little life" part, but everything else.)

I spent a good deal of time in NOLA after the hurricane and comments like the above move beyond my tolerance threshold. I appreciate people's right to say things like this, but I don't believe they belong on a weather website, and I think CWG ought to be exercising their right to delete off-topic comments so that people who want to find information on the weather don't have to sift through the blather.

I don't even care if they delete this off-topic post. In fact, I'm sorry to have contributed to all of this.

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Responsible comment is encouraged at CapitalClimate

Posted by: CapitalClimate | August 26, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

THANK YOU Jamie! And Ian.

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

So, who does W have on tap this time to do another "heckuva job"?

Posted by: philko | August 26, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm comin for you! Muahahaa!

Posted by: Gustav | August 26, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Capital Weather Gang, the cause of the nasty posts is that this blog has a link from the front page of, and because of the Democractic Convention, all the political trolls are on the website.

it's too bad.

Posted by: Sasquatch | August 26, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

If NO does get wiped out...

I think Kurt Russell has enough acting left over for an, "Escape From New Orleans."

Posted by: Greg | August 26, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Please stop using this forum to insult us.

Posted by: New Orleans | August 26, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what would happen if we detonated an H-bomb in the middle of this thing? (not when it's over land...)

Posted by: Hurricane Gustav | August 26, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Howard Stern could blast a big fart in its direction and blow it down to South America.

Posted by: matt | August 26, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

This one is going to be a lot stronger than predicted. The photo of a boulder that has crashed into the side of a public building will shock many.

Run real fast...really!

Posted by: Wasso | August 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The link to this blogo is on Google News. That's what brought the naughty people enmass.

Posted by: Schmuck | August 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the reason for your increased traffic is because it's the currently the top link when you google "Gustav"

We are all a bit leery of Gustav here in South Louisiana. Though it's not quite time to panic, it is time to prepare. The Katrina disaster was just as much a failure of government as it was a failure of personal responsibility on a mass scale. Neither did their part, and as a result, hundreds of thousands suffered. If Gustav comes, in his lederhosen, begging for chocolate, let's hope that we've developed the good sense to put the candy jar out of reach.

Posted by: Brandon in BR | August 26, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Net productivity in the USA will improve after New Orleans is under water. What a waste of resources to protect a city built under water by idiots.

Posted by: Boo Rex | August 26, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the path it sure looks like it is going to threaten New Orleans.

I don't think it will comfort anyone, but will we ever as a country talk about the areas that can be devastated by Hurricanes?

Houston, Tampa, Miami, lots of other places in Florida are target areas.

If there is one metro area I think could be a worse place for a hurricane to hit from a $ standpoint it would be Tampa. That place will be totally messed up if a Cat 4 or 5 hits it directly.

Basically I think we have a lot of big cities in bad locations. I know they have typhoons in the pacific, but what other country besides us and the Carribean bordering ones have large cities where they can be hammered?

I know the birth and growth of cities is a decision largely made in the past, but what happens if this thing hits New Orleans again? And what about anytime in the future?

Basically I think a lot of the ways we spend money in this country need to be rethought. Just to be out front I hate the federal flood insurance program. I am not a libertarian, I just think it has enabled a lot of risky economic activity that would never have occurred without it.

Anyway I hope it doesn't hit a major metro area. But sooner or later one will. New Orleans is just as likely as any other spot.

I think Tampa if that ever happens will be a worse disaster though.

Posted by: drive by poster | August 26, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Going in now to clean up some of these comments. To new visitors, welcome. Please post responsibly. We reserve the right to unpublish inappropriate posts and/or block computers from posting here at our discretion.

Posted by: Jason, Capital Weather Gang | August 26, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

we aint never scared!

Posted by: "Tom" | August 26, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I expect better from the Washington Post. Good for you Laura for saying what is right. This isn't "kiddie corner" or "my space." Is it? It's the freakin' Washington Post. If they can't monitor the posts then shut down the website. How embarrassing. Reading through all the posts it appears 90% or more has nothing to do with comments about the weather. Just thinly veiled bigotry and idiocy. Really, who is monitoring this site? My first time here and likely the last.

Posted by: Weather Watcher | August 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

New Orleans notwithstanding, Gustav is threatening quite a few oilfields in the Gulf if this track verifies.

Posted by: El Bombo | August 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Weather Watcher, it's not normally like this. Look back to some other posts from last week. This is a great site for people interested in discussing the weather. Today it just entered a parallel universe or something.

Posted by: Laura in NWDC | August 26, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Rishi, the Japanese regard rain on one's wedding day as an exceptional good luck sign.

Posted by: El Bombo | August 26, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I just unpublished a number of comments with inappropriate racial content. Please keep it clean.

Posted by: Jason, Capital Weather Gang | August 26, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

First off, the NHC error cone is so large that Gustav could hit anywhere on the Gulf Coast.
That said, the fact that this storm is only in Haiti and alarms are already going off in New Orleans has to make you question the wisdom of living in the Crescent City.

"Floods are natural, flood losses are man made."

Posted by: Brian in Alex | August 26, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

bush can save himself a lot of mindless accusations if he publicly tells the idiots in charge of new orleans and the rest of the great state of louisiana to get their post-katrina action plan going. i have no sympathy for louisiana.

Posted by: unsympathetic | August 26, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

the idiots in louisiana deserve a watery grave for not having an effective post-katrina action plan in place. i have no sympathy at all for new orleans.

Posted by: unsympathetic | August 26, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

It won't hit New Orleans. You just know that it will hit us in Florida. We aren't prepared. The news says we aren't, and I know we aren't. Half of my neighbors on my street didn't put up storm shutters or plywood. You don't see people lined up to buy gasoline for generators or fresh water to drink after the mains are hit. It's that law, I forget who's it is: If something can go wrong at the worst possible time, it will. It's like that fourth hurricane during Charley season. We looked at it on the map and said "Yeah, it's probably coming here. You know it is." And Gustav will.

Posted by: Bob in Florida | August 26, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I misspelled some stuff. Oh dear. Anyways, on the subject of New Orleans, people should not be getting their hurricane supplies now. It's too late. Get them at the beginning of hurricane season. That goes for the rest of us too, and everyone on the Gulf Coast.

Posted by: Bob on floods | August 26, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

And he will ride in on his beast....and he shall be named Gustav....and he will devour all in his path.

Posted by: Undenied | August 26, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

To the person who commented about New Orleans not having a plan. Our US government has been trying to come up with a plan and still 3 years post haven't decided anything except "we need more studies" while the leaks are plugged with what ever they find lying around to fill the cavities.

People here have the plans... Us government won't look at them except just their own. Pretty much if this was Houston or NYC, we'd see more action.

Posted by: Tom in Louisiana | August 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Re: "Please post responsibly."

Good luck.

Posted by: CapitalClimate | August 26, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

If it hits New Orleans... you can say good-bye to all of them wonderful FEMA trailers that were never used. And of course, Blackwater and the National Guard can finish their unconstitutional job of rounding up the remaining firearms being carried by the law-abiding citizens of Louisiana.

Posted by: Brad | August 26, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

CWG, as someone mentioned, here's your problem. Go to google and type "Gustav". This post is the very top result.

Hopefully Gustav will either weaken or move away from some of the more vulnerable areas and hit a less-densely populated area (or both...both would be good). But like I said before, this storm's predicted strength and track are giving me a bad feeling...

(Sorry if this posted multiple times, it's giving me trouble posting this)

Posted by: weatherdudeVA | August 26, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I simply don't get the majority of these posts! Tell me, do you condemn those people who live in "tornado alley"? Do you say to those people who live in the midwest that you have absolutely no compassion for them for living in those states? When a tornado wipes out half a town, do you tell those people that they are foolish for re-building?

Posted by: justjazzn | August 26, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

What about Invest 95? Wind Shear should drop by Thursday to zero. Models are aiming storm to possibly hit east coast. Looks like we might have two attacking monsters.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Nawlins, y'all are in our prayers.

Posted by: Clark | August 26, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, justjazzn, for pointing out something I've always wondered about.

Posted by: Kitty | August 26, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Only an IDIOT would name any storm GUSTAV!

What is wrong with these people? Didn't they learn their lesson with HUGO? Bad name!

Posted by: Gort | August 26, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Can someone actually posting on and informed about the weather tell me risks to Jamaica? My son and his wife are honeymooning there.

Posted by: JJ | August 26, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

justjazzn, the odds that any one particular midwestern town will be totally destroyed by a tornado are virtually zero. That New Orleans will be destroyed by a major hurricane in the next 50 years is a virtual certainty. That's the difference.

Posted by: Brian in Alex | August 26, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

it seemed like hurricanes used to come up the east coast and hit SC, NC, VA etc. Now they all seem to go the way of the gulf...strange. I liked Fay, just kind of came up and gave the drought ridden south a nice shower.

"Bob Ryan, for entertainment purposes only"

Posted by: Weather guy | August 26, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

The people posting about how terrible New Orleans is are the ones you see in the quarter at all times of the year on vacation, who eat our delicious food and get the runs, and who aren't able to hold their alcohol with ridiculous beads around their necks screaming "throw me something"... and it is the middle of September. You'll never know what it means "to love New Orleans" if you weren't born and raised.
Do us a favor and stay out of our city.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 26, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Anybody got Formaldehydes with some FEMA trailers in it? We gonna need a lot of new tin cans for this one.

Posted by: Emergency Housing | August 26, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

talk is cheap

Posted by: hey u | August 26, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Pretty good job of moderating done by the moderators here. There's still a little free speech left.

You know, I live in South Texas, completely of my own accord, and just rode out a hurricane. I don't remember blaming the government for that hurricane, or for any of my losses. This is what offends so many of us about the New Orleans / Katrina deal -- all of the people on TV blaming Bush or the government in general for something that is completely natural and expected. Most of us don't believe it's the government's role to bail you out if you live 12 feet below sea level -- or here in South Texas, like I do.

Sadly, the American spirit of independence that my feelings represent seems to be in shorter and shorter supply as time goes on.

Posted by: Alton Moore | August 26, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

The fact that oil and natural gas prices are going up this far ahead of Gustav astounds me, but I'm sure it's due to speculators snapping up futures at the current price, hoping they'll go sky-high if the thing hits the oil rigs.

Never mind that the cone of uncertainty five days out covers pretty much the entire Gulf. A friend of mine who's a financial analyst for a major firm says the speculation is actually what's gotten prices so high, and that there ought to be a way to throttle it. Well, good luck with that, especially with visitors like Gustav helping fuel (no pun intended) panic over possible shortages.

Jacking up prices this far ahead of a storm is just anolther kind of price gouging, and isn't that something that the government claims it doesn't tolerate?

Posted by: MAC | August 26, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

It's not just New Orleans. As I said in an earlier post just about any large city on the Gulf Coast or in Florida is particularly vulnerable.

Heck, New York and New England are vulnerable as well, though it has been a long, long time since one made it up there. Baltimore could get one too.

Coastal Georgia never gets them, but I don't know why.

New Orleans might be a great place to live, but keeping a city there takes resources away from another area. Can you be so sure it is not ultimately futile to rebuild the city time after time? I might add that I believe we are going to see large sea level rises this century, so what exactly should I think about this matter? I understand people's emotions, but my head tells me it will just happen again. Just to throw out my tin-foil hat bonafides, I think it will be 1 to 3 metres by century's end. Three to ten feet or so.

Geez this is a Washington paper, and you guys are already losing swatches of Chesapeake Bay, though it is no where near as bad as southern Louisiana.

So what am I supposed to think? Seriously? I believe New Orleans in particular is doomed. More besides that one, but it is a particularly vulnerable city.

Posted by: drive by poster | August 26, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I feel bad for New Orleans because of these posts. "User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site."



Posted by: Model Monkey | August 26, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Model Monkey: I have unpublished about 15 inappropriate comments. I think those currently in the mix are ok.

Alton: Thanks for the nice comments about the moderating. We are trying.

JJ: Hurricane Watches are in effect for Jamaica. Fortunately, the center should pass north of that island, but it still may be impacted by tropical storm conditions in the next 36 hours...particularly on the north side of the island.

Posted by: Jason, Capital Weather Gang | August 26, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

A number of Forecasters have New Orleans in REAL danger from this Cyclonic storm - at its present forward motion arriving 1st September as a Cat 3 Hurricane.

Whatever the forecasts it would be prudent to start initial protection activity.

Posted by: Richard Donaldson-Alves | August 26, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

@Junior - the first thing the Gov'ment did after Katrina was to take away your right to bear arms.

@Oh No - There are other, more effective ways to control the weather. Google 'electromagnetic weather control.'

@a handful of others - So it's not OK to blame Bushes government full of unqualified buddies for the crappy response, but it's OK to blame New Orleans for the catastrophe... kinda like the girl who was "asking for it?"

Posted by: Ken | August 26, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Ahh. Much better. Thank you. JJ, I'm sure your family will be alright. As of now, it seems Gustav will not impact Jamaica with hurricane force winds.

Posted by: Model Monkey | August 26, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Laura, Weather Watcher and others concerned about comments -- Please be patient with us in these situations when it comes to monitoring and filtering out inappropriate comments. The Gang is often busy working on forecasts and other posts, and others at are in convention land. So, it just takes time before we're able to filter out inappropriate comments. Please don't let the idiocy of some prevent you from enjoying the site and using it as a valuable resource.

Posted by: Dan, Capital Weather Gang | August 26, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Are we talking about the same things?

Ken this country and the world existed before Bush. He is going away. He didn't do a bit of good for anyone, but on this issue and many others he did nothing more than continue what was already being done. Or not as the case may be.

Follow the logic.

New Orleans (as an example) is extremely vulnerable to hurricanes. Hurricanes are increasing in intensity.

The sea is rising.

If you rebuild this city again, and spend a lot of money on land and marsh projects in southern Louisiana (which is as or more important than directly doing anything for New Orleans to prevent future floods), well guess what?

By the way, you are also going to have to force some very influential industries to change the way they do things. And they are going to fight.

It is going to happen again, even if you spend a whole lot of money you could have spent somewhere else.

Okay. Now what should one do with these facts (if you believe them as I do).

We have a lot of cities vulnerable to hurricanes. The sea is rising. No one discusses this.

Okay what do we do?

It's obvious I guess. Assume it is solely due to George Bush and a lack of funding. And say everyone who doesn't parrot the same talking points is blaming New Orleans for the disaster.

I guess I kind of understand why not many in congress try seriously to get us out of Iraq, though most of their constituents want out.

No one is paying attention.

Posted by: drive by poster | August 27, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

My city was victimized by Hurricane Rita in 2005 and is in as much danger as New Orleans. If this hurricane makes a direct hit here, I'm moving to Dallas or San Antonio.

Part of the reason for the increase in hurricane frequency and intensity is due in part to global warming. Rising gas prices has been a wake-up call for needed action by people. The less we drive, the lower the effects of global warming and perhaps the weaker the hurricanes will become. Gustav, like Katrina and Rita, will stand as another example of how global warming is hurting our planet.

Posted by: Joe | August 27, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

We took the direct hit of in case you all didn't know. We are still struggling in recovery, and if it is to hit us, then so be it. It has to hit somewhere. We don't have levees to contend with, just a tidal surge that doesn't flood, it decimates and consumes everything. After Katrina, people were found 10 miles out in the Gulf.

But here we go.

I know if it hits here, or west into Texas, that our neighbors in New Orleans are in great trouble...I hope they all get out.

Posted by: Gary | August 27, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Reconstructing a city which is 8 feet below sea level and sits in Hurricane Alley is something only the Federal Government would do in its all-out attempt to win votes from stupid people. That'd be Democrats.

Bush should have told New Orleans to move. Instead, he paid for its residents to stay at the Waldorf Astoria.

The hurricane may not be Bush's fault, but the waste of money is.

Posted by: Didn't take long | August 27, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

.......yea, instead of providing advice and tips on how to protect ourselves from the coming potential disaster and avoid mistakes made in the past, lets all complain about how things went last time and who was at fault.... anyone interested may go to to get information on some of the things they might need for a storm; don't wait until looting may be the only means of getting supplies. Also, if you're in an area that is a potential high risk, get out. Don't wait until the last minute when the mayor finally announces that people need to leave and evacuation routes are congested for twenty miles.

Posted by: Cajunguy | August 27, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey New Orleans, wake up! You're below sea level! Anyone who has any sense moved out. Don't be so surprised next time another Cat 5 levels N.O. US Gov't can't control mother nature. You live there at your own peril. Sympathy only goes so far and God only helps those who help themselves.

Posted by: Mr. Self Reliant | August 27, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Why do you think the skin color of a population is going to make some huge difference?

It is easy to google and find all kinds of reasons why New Orleans is really vulnerable, and you will find warnings about the city stretching back... heck a hundred years I bet.

Just for the sake of argument let's say Houston and Tampa are "vanilla" cities.

A direct hit on either one is going to produce one screwed up area. In some ways I think they will have worse damage. Plus they are mentally unprepared for something like this, and haven't worried about it nearly as much as New Orleans did (which obviously wasn't nearly enough). Then too the elevation of New Orleans (sitting water with no place to go) made a bad situation more complicated.

But Houston is going to have a lot of flooded areas that will take weeks to have the waters recede if one ever hits them.

I promise you, if a cat 4 or 5 heads into the Houston shipping channel all sorts of surprises are going to be experienced.

As far as loss of life goes, I think Tampa might be a far worse disaster than any of them though.

Posted by: drive by poster | August 27, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

boorex?..something bad is going to happen to you.

Posted by: Voodoo | August 27, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

The NHC is now forecasting Gustav to make landfall near New Orleans as a weaker storm than Katrina, but if it does become a Cat 4 or 5 monster in that area, then all bets are off. If New Orleans gets the brunt of it, then expect an immensely accelerated population in Houston and Dallas as a result. However, there is still a wide area of uncertainty in the Gulf. Potential landfall is anywhere from Pensacola, FL to Corpus Christi, TX. Residents in South Texas and Florida should not let their guards down at all.

Posted by: Joe | August 28, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Can we have some updated tracking maps to follow this storm? For those of us with relatives and friends in the Gulf states it's of concern to us. I don't look forward to hurricane Gustav for anyone. Say what you want...but as a human being can you be concerned about people and their needs??? An awful lot of trash as "freedom of speech" is being spewed on blogging. Maps please...

Posted by: Tracker | August 28, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Joe | August 28, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

How far north do ya think we need to go?

Posted by: me | August 28, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

The Katrina "looters" were taking water and pampers, remember? "Looters" is a misnomer - people actually break into stores to get food and basics for survival. That's why the New Orleans police were in the stores allowing everyone to pick up supplies. Many store owners opened their doors to the people.

I read New Orleans dikes still will withstand (only) a Cat 2 hurricane. 11/12 of FEMA's budget is spent on blackbox items, and 1/12 on bridges, dikes, and so on. What's the 11/12 being spent on? google "FEMA camps".

- Manny Two-Shoes, truth teller

Posted by: Manny Two-Shoes | August 30, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Actually...those New Orleans dikes are pretty tough..its the gays that tend to fold when the weather gets bad...unless you were talking about LEVEES, in which case, they suck indeed.

(that was a joke don't get all fussy"

Posted by: Mississippi coast | August 30, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm disappointed in the information being provided to the public concerning this storm. If anyone has info on evac routes, shelters, contact info, actually any up-to-date preparedness news I'd appreciate it. Posting it here or on my forum would be nice. I would like to post it on my site, so the disabled have someone/something to turn to.

Posted by: Dave | August 31, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Im not sure if i would want to risk the weather down in new orleans or stay here in iraq? SO STAY SAFE AND GOD BE WITH YOU.
If there is some more shootings after the storm, call the military will gladly shoot some more people.

Posted by: plasticjoker31 | August 31, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

man what are you guys talking about i came to read about gustav and all im hearing is a bunch of garbage that has nothing to do with it some sounds like springer material i just pray all turns out well oh yeah i dont watch springer eighther peace out

Posted by: Ernest | August 31, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

After reading some of these comments, I now know why the rest of the world considers us to be "Stupid Americans". You should be ashamed!

People's lives and livelihood are at stake and most of you are making this about a political campaign. I think both of the Presidential candidates are concerned as the rest of Americans should be.


Posted by: Tracy | August 31, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Chat and learn about Hurricane Gustav Online Volunteer efforts:

Posted by: Michael Kearney | August 31, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

hope gustav weakens considerably for all who are too old,weak, young or poor to defend themselves from this dark monster bearing down on you . As for those who make fun of these , ile bet mostly you are from nice comfortable well off backgrounds . You are complete dirt !!

Posted by: yargey | August 31, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Patricia Robinson | August 31, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Weather Manipulation! at its best.... Google it and you'll be suprised... a wiseman once told me "we accept the reality in which we are presented" and for americans unfortunatly this is very true...

~Shame on the Gov.

Posted by: the unconventional truth | August 31, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

it will becat.3,not so bad,and loosing strenght-hope the best for people down there..

Posted by: srecko | September 1, 2008 3:54 AM | Report abuse

My oh my, what a bunch of idiots this huricane seems to be attracting to an otherwise sane blog.

I have been following this topic on the site and it seems that it is going to be worse, and possibly MUCH worse, than Katrina.

There are already many from NO saying that if Gustav wipes out the same part of the gulf coast as Katrina did (it was much more than just NO) after only three years they won't be returning.

Then you have the idiot, Michael Moore, saying that there must be a G_D in heaven if this huricane is going to disrupt the RNC. Maybe it is his fans posting all the trash talk here.

Posted by: Yogi | September 1, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

The odds for Gustav to become a giant was as slim as it would be for Rossane to become thin. Hurricanes are named alphabetically, so for any hurricane to be stronger than Katrina around the Labor Day weekend, the letter has to start with K or later. That's because the fewer there are hurricanes in a year, the weaker they are, because the ocean just aren't hot enough to breed them. So, Gustav was more of a hype than anything else.

Posted by: P Wu | September 1, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

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