PM Update: Front Brings Rain Changing to Snow
Temps tumble; Second wintry Tuesday in a row tomorrow?
* Umbrella In the Snow? | By 10 PM: SchoolCast *
More mild temperatures visited the area today, but that's all about to change. Highs that reached into the low and mid 50s will be a memory by later this evening because cold air will quickly invade behind a cold front moving through the area now. In addition to falling temperatures and gusty winds, rain showers will rapidly change to snow showers with a quick coating possible this evening. Any additional accumulation overnight and tomorrow?
Tonight: Rain showers this evening will quickly change to snow showers. Temperatures will settle to around or just below freezing for lows. Although ground temperatures are relatively high due to the recent warmth, a coating to an inch of snow is possible by morning especially in the typically cold spots and any areas that get heavier bursts.
Tomorrow (Tuesday): A disturbance in the upper atmosphere will swing through, keeping the chance for snow going through the day. With temperatures not likely to go up much (only to about the mid 30s), we'll be cold enough for snow to stick during any heavier periods of precipitation.
Local Snow Probabilities (late tonight through tomorrow)...
70%: 3" or less
*35%: Less than 1"
*35%: 1-3"
20%: 3-6"
10%: 6"+
The greatest accumulations will be on grassy and elevated surfaces, though roads may see some as well. Snow totals will likely be higher east of the Chesapeake and northeast into eastern Pennsylvania and New Jersey, where advisories and watches have been posted.
See Jason Samenow's forecast through early next week. Check back later for SchoolCast and an update if needed.
London Snow: Add London to the list (as if that list isn't long enough already) of places that have seen more snow than D.C. this winter. As of Monday evening (Europe), London had already seen about 8" of snow, making this the largest snowfall in about 18 years.
By Ian Livingston |
February 2, 2009; 5:45 PM ET
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Posted by: carrerascott | February 2, 2009 4:07 PM
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The wind is really starting to whip around my third-floor Lake Ridge aerie. Let's see how quickly the temp starts to come down...it was pretty warm earlier this afternoon.
Posted by: meta2 | February 2, 2009 4:07 PM
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Thanks. Great Post by the way. I see that 1-3 inches isn't out of the game. Even 6+. Is there any chance of a complete mistake and we have a lot more than expected. More than 5 inches. Everobody has their own opinions and it makes it confusing. Somebody had a good point of saying 6+ isnt out of the game
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 4:07 PM
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No discussion on the models changing again with this post? Can you confirm they are shifting back to the west again?
Posted by: bbv91258 | February 2, 2009 4:13 PM
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Can somebody post the thing that shows the shift like bbv91258 asked?
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 4:15 PM
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Last comment: Did you chance the probability to 3 and below??? Or did somebody hack it???
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 4:19 PM
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@carrerascott
We usually only do a snowfall map if we're fairly confident there will be at least 1" of snow. We may do one late this evening and/or for early tomorrow morning if conditions warrant...
Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 4:21 PM
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SNOW is beginning to fall!! with a north to northeast wind of 15-20.
Temp. has dropped from 57 to 38 in 2 hrs.
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 4:31 PM
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where are you augusta jim? i assume "augusta", but where's that?
Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 2, 2009 4:36 PM
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Went out for a little over in hour in Alexandria. Temps definitely fell a good amount and the clouds are coming in.
Now, it seems not so silly to be talking about snow.
Posted by: kallieh | February 2, 2009 4:37 PM
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Walter:
30 miles n.w. of Charlottesville on the west side of the Blue Ridge, in the Shenandoah Valley.
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 4:39 PM
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Exactly. But if you had to be honest how much would you say we get? Sorry for all of these comments? But you got me exited :)
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 4:40 PM
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To respond to the comments above, from what I have seen models are not shifting back to the west.
Posted by: timjuliani | February 2, 2009 4:43 PM
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thanks. is that along rt.81? near staunton? i believe i used to drive by there on my way to/from vatech. i think i'm jealous of your "west of the blue ridge" location. do you usually get more/less/same snow as dc sw suburbs?
Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 2, 2009 4:44 PM
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wind is definitely picking up in Silver Spring.
Posted by: whateva1 | February 2, 2009 4:47 PM
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Hoya, there's a lot of potential for this to bust low or even high with regard to snowfall. It's a relatively small-scale feature expected to produce the accumulation and it can shift pretty easily either direction. I think 70% chance of less than 3" should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect for now.
Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 4:49 PM
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Sounds like we're just east of Jim on the other side of the Blue Ridge -- can see them right now (well mostly obscured by clouds now). We're a few miles from the Green county border in Albemarle. No precip here yet.
Posted by: carrerascott | February 2, 2009 4:52 PM
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But does that mean 3 inches. How come noaa still says half an inch. Man i love this website. You guys r good.
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 4:53 PM
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This winter it seems 70% chance of 0-3" means 100% chance of
Posted by: carrerascott | February 2, 2009 4:55 PM
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I think it's safe to say 100% chance of less than 3"
CWG rocks!
Posted by: mwelsh | February 2, 2009 4:55 PM
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@mwelsh
CWG rocks!
Don't tell us mwelsh... Tell your friends. ;)
Posted by: JJones-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 4:57 PM
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carerrascott: We had the same idea at the same second!
Posted by: mwelsh | February 2, 2009 4:57 PM
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All I know is that the temperature dropped 10 degress in about an hour. What does it mean? That it's getting colder. I've given up trying to figure this thing out.
Posted by: phanieb | February 2, 2009 4:58 PM
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anytime i start talking local weather with anybody, i tell them "go to capwx." they're always impressed.
Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 2, 2009 4:59 PM
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You have a cult following in my building. (If I told you where I work, I'd have to, well, you know. Such is life in D.C...)
Hang in there, guys!
~Mike
Posted by: mwelsh | February 2, 2009 5:00 PM
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Snow still falling. Vis. approx. 1 mile. Temp. down to 34.
Walter: Yes, very close to I81. We normally get around 10 inches more per year than the sw side of D.C. but the last few years have not been normal!
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 5:03 PM
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Yeah, hubby gets miffed when I say I have to stay up to wait for the schoolcast ;o) I'm a fan!
Posted by: koofie | February 2, 2009 5:04 PM
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Still, if we get 3" that will be the biggest snowfall of the season for most places in the metro area. And with our expectations having been lowered over the weekend, it would come as a pleasant surprise! Right now (5 PM) it's fallen to 40 after a high of 55 here in Greenbelt. I think that by the time any precip gets here it should be of the frozen variety.
Posted by: markf40 | February 2, 2009 5:04 PM
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Light windblown rain falling here in 22935.
Posted by: carrerascott | February 2, 2009 5:06 PM
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Cold front coming in. 39 in bethesda. You can tell snow is on the way.
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 5:07 PM
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@
And to think I thought I had made it home early enough today to get a good run in with these great temps. Oh well, I guess I'll trade another day in the gym for potential snow tonight...
{Takes off his official hat for a second}
... snow dance_snow dance_snow dance_snow dance ...
What was I saying again?
Posted by: JJones-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 5:11 PM
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mwelsh says "CWG Rocks!" ... CWG's Jamie Jones says, "Don't Tell Us ... Tell Your Friends" ... I second Jamie's motion!, and remind everyone that there are several ways to tell your friends and family where to find us:
www.CapitalWeatherGang.com
www.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang
and remember, we're here rain, snow or shine, 24/7, 365 days a year.
Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 5:13 PM
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Snow has reached Martinsburg, WVa...
Winds are howling and temps are crashing...models show temperatures falling from around 50 mid-afternoon to mid 30s mid-to-late evening (7-9 pm).
Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 5:14 PM
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capitalweather.com works as well
Posted by: samdman95 | February 2, 2009 5:16 PM
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Moderate snow falling in Harrisonburg now. Got a nice coating on the ground.
Posted by: oriolesfan23 | February 2, 2009 5:16 PM
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Oriolesfan -- push it across the mountain! It's not here yet but the mountains are now *completely* gone from our view.
Posted by: carrerascott | February 2, 2009 5:18 PM
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Oooh...my son's at college in Shepherdstown (very close to Martinsburg)...bet he's celebrating!
Posted by: meta2 | February 2, 2009 5:20 PM
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this is all awesome news, right? i mean, wasn't it supposed to start as rain? or will it still start as rain in falls church?
Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 2, 2009 5:22 PM
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Looks like many places are only seeing very brief rain if any before the change to snow. With temps falling fast in the metro area we may see similar.
Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 5:23 PM
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yay!!!!!!!!!! Snow!!! (hopefully)
Posted by: samdman95 | February 2, 2009 5:25 PM
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Perhaps a nice surprise tomorrow - similar to the Jan 2000 surprise snowstorm.. Radar looks like there's potential this thing hugs the coast a bit closer.. Fingers crossed..
Posted by: ZmanVA | February 2, 2009 5:26 PM
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5:30:
Moderate snow, vis. .5 mile, ne breeze 5-10, temp. 33, ground turning white.
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 5:31 PM
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Where did you see thay radar zman??? Im keeping my fingers crossed for 5+
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 5:32 PM
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There's a big slug of moisture in the lower midlands of South Carolina right now, seems to be moving NE but the leading edge has just pushed north of Columbia. It almost looks like a deformation zone; the front is just pushing into Charlotte. If this area holds up and continues its present movement, it will reach Raleigh in a few hours, maybe Richmond before midnight and possibly even parts of the DC area after that. When I last looked at the radar, this area of precip was in south central Georgia and didn't look like much of anything. The NAM and especially the GFS seemed to have picked up on it. This could well be our snow source once it moves into the colder surface/aloft air that should be well in place in DC later this evening.
Posted by: Pianokey | February 2, 2009 5:43 PM
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its getting darker= temps will keep on droppin!!!
Posted by: samdman95 | February 2, 2009 5:47 PM
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Hoyafan - per your question, check out the following radar link: http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true&location=default
Posted by: ZmanVA | February 2, 2009 5:49 PM
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There seem to be a lot more commentators today. I think that last storm helped CWG's popularity! Great job guys!
Posted by: PeterBethesda | February 2, 2009 5:49 PM
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Cold cold wind driven rain here... hoping for changeover shortly!
Posted by: carrerascott | February 2, 2009 5:49 PM
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Waiting patiently here near Union Station....
Skywalker from Silver Spring
Posted by: SkywalkerSS | February 2, 2009 5:53 PM
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@carrerascott, let us know when and if you change on over (and where you are).
Posted by: JJones-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 6:01 PM
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Still getting steady snow here in Harrisonburg. The grass is now completely covered. Pavement is starting to get white. I'll go out and measure in a bit.
Posted by: oriolesfan23 | February 2, 2009 6:08 PM
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so when do new models come out? will we have a better feel for things tonight or will we not know until tomorrow?
Posted by: shirlingtonvillage | February 2, 2009 6:32 PM
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where is our snow coming from. is it all that rain in the SE? how much do u think we'll get? more than 3?
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 6:35 PM
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I'm a closet weather geek who has been lurking here for a long time. I just wanted to tell you guys how much I appreciate your detailed and non-hyped weather forecasts. My students today were all commenting how their Blackboard widgets said they were going to get a lot of snow tonight (I think it's powered by Accuweather....) and I showed them this blog. I think you'll have 28 more schoolcast readers tonight ;-).
Posted by: HistoryTchr | February 2, 2009 6:35 PM
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I see a lot of moisture coming our way from the south and west. The precip band over central SC has weakened but the frontal band now moving through Charlotte and the SC upstate has strengthened considerably and since everything is moving SW to NE right now and there is still a lot of precip to our west, I think the answer to our snow accumulation is not in the western Atlantic, it's a lot closer to home. Check out the radars, Greer, Raleigh, Blacksburg, even Sterling although I think it's adjusted for snow echoes. And Greer isn't the southern edge of this precipitation either. We have an interesting night ahead.
Posted by: Pianokey | February 2, 2009 6:43 PM
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6:30:
1 inch of SNOW, moderate SNOW, 32 degrees,
pavement covering.
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 6:45 PM
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@hoya
Re: how much? We've given you the possibilities above...we're thinking around an inch is most likely, but there's significant uncertainty.
@HistoryTchr
Thanks for the nice comments and for promoting our blog. Your students are welcome here...
@shirlingtonvillage
The next set of models come out between 9 and 11 tonight. Not expecting radical changes though.
Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 6:47 PM
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@HistoryTchr,
That's got to be the best thing this thread has heard all day.
Welcome to all 28 of HistoryTchr's students.
Too cool!
Posted by: pjdunn1 | February 2, 2009 6:49 PM
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35 degrees with moderate rain in Culpeper va
Posted by: clintonportis17 | February 2, 2009 6:50 PM
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I am also a wannabe weather geek that has been lurking here for awhile. As a native Washingtonian I get ultra-hyped at the thought of these snow "events" (much to the chagrin of my Native New Englander wife) and this blog and you commentators are an absolute delight. And even though it will wreak havoc with my day I got to say COME ON SNOW!
Posted by: mjwies11 | February 2, 2009 6:52 PM
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Light rain here, I think...
As far as "advertising" goes: I'm the TV weatherman for my school, and use CapWX and the NWS sites primarily for the forecasts. I need to credit you guys more, but I have mentioned a few times that Capital Weather is my site of choice.
Posted by: KBurchfiel | February 2, 2009 7:02 PM
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one inch total????
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 7:07 PM
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Maybe we will all be surprised in the morning with a couple of inches on the ground. One can hope:)
Posted by: snowlover | February 2, 2009 7:11 PM
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Teachers and students would love it if you would post your schoolcast early and then update it at 10....we are too excited to hear what you guys are going to predict to wait!!! Our entire staff are BIG fans! Let it snow!
Posted by: artteach | February 2, 2009 7:11 PM
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Your predictions don't make sense! 3 or less 70 %
1-3 35%
IT's the same thing isn't it. Any chance of 3 inches??? AT ALL???
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 7:13 PM
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Sorry, but nbcwashington is being crazy! 1-4 inches?? On the radar it shows 2-4 all around us. Let me know what you think.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/More-Snow-Could-Test-DCs-New-Flinty-Resolve.html
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 7:18 PM
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Half an apple, at the most!
Posted by: PoorTeacher | February 2, 2009 7:18 PM
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hoya dude -- that's not what he meant. he meant there's a 70 percent hcance of 3 inches or less (35% of that being the probablity of less than one inch, and another 35 % of that being 1-3 inches) Then another 30% chance for anything over that.
Posted by: danuva | February 2, 2009 7:18 PM
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35+35=70...
Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 2, 2009 7:19 PM
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I'm hoping for snow, but just enough to melt by Thursday when I head to the Mtns to carve it up. I despise route 66 in good weather (especially during rush hour).
Thanks for the hard work CWG'ers.
Posted by: ChuckCounty | February 2, 2009 7:21 PM
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My prediction is for micro-accumulations:
50% for .1 - .3 inch
50% for .4 - .6 inch
If we're so lucky! ;-)
Posted by: schrute | February 2, 2009 7:21 PM
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k thanks
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 7:21 PM
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Last Comment: Where can I find the map thing where it shows the Gfz or whatever it is?
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 7:24 PM
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That British snowstorm is spreading west into Ireland! Met Eireann is forecasting blizzard conditions possible for parts of Ulster and Leinster with possible accumulations as high as 10 cm. [This is RARE in Ireland which usually gets mild weather from the Gulf Stream in winter.]
Maybe that upper-air storm will still hit us with a surprise tomorrow into Wednesday. Otherwise next weekend is so mild I'm planning a trail hike.
Posted by: Bombo47jea | February 2, 2009 7:26 PM
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Poorteach-
Put your Pj's on inside out and be optimistic!!! Don't forget to flush ice cubes down the toliet for luck...it might also help lower the ground level temps!! hee hee
Posted by: artteach | February 2, 2009 7:27 PM
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Art teach.. what county are you in? I don't foresee too much snow. Even if we get snow I think we'll have school, as we used 2 days already.
Posted by: PoorTeacher | February 2, 2009 7:29 PM
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To: mjwies11
I'm with ya -- I'm a native Washingtonian with a New Englander husband who rolls his eyes every time a "snow event" gets predicted. Just discovered this site -- What fun!
Posted by: nonfrequentflyer | February 2, 2009 7:30 PM
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Here it comes.
Posted by: SnowMonsterDC | February 2, 2009 7:32 PM
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Maybe I'm crazy, but the snow is coming down pretty thick here in Hamilton, VA. I know I'm NW of DC's predictions, but I was anticipating more rain and less snow. Nice surprise thus far!
Posted by: Lauramul | February 2, 2009 7:55 PM
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8:00 PM:
TWO INCHES ON THE GROUND AND COMIN DOWN!!
32 DEGREES, PAVEMENT WHITE.
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 7:56 PM
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About 1/4 inch here around Oatlands in Leesburg. Walkway covered but too far from the dirt road to tell if it's sticking there.
Posted by: mandarb77 | February 2, 2009 8:02 PM
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Nothing here in Germantown.
Posted by: PoorTeacher | February 2, 2009 8:03 PM
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it seems like the low pressure system forming in the south is taking away some of the moisture from the low pressure system around here
Posted by: danuva | February 2, 2009 8:07 PM
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rain in bethesda switching to snow soon
Posted by: hoyafan516 | February 2, 2009 8:08 PM
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Still dry in Lake Ridge...but very cold.
Posted by: meta2 | February 2, 2009 8:11 PM
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To: nonfrequentflyer
It is always great to find a comrade in arms (and get a shout out)!
Nothing much going on in Tenleytown.
If only I had a magical bag of Doritos....come on snow!
Posted by: mjwies11 | February 2, 2009 8:13 PM
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i'm watching the radar and it seems like there's a "protective bubble" over washington - precipitation seems to vanish just before getting to dc...
Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 2, 2009 8:29 PM
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32 degrees here in culpeper va and snowing pretty good since 7:30ish! grass and tables, grill are white but melting on roads.
Posted by: clintonportis17 | February 2, 2009 8:30 PM
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walter-in-fallschurch: Yup, that's the good ol' DC bubble for ya. Did you know that snowlovers and bubbles are naturally born enemies?
Posted by: weatherdudeVA | February 2, 2009 8:32 PM
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ah, AugustaJim, you are making me miss my days in the Valley (Winchester, if you're wondering).
Also, just to continue the CWG love: I've been reading you guys since the beginning, and never hesitate to recommend you to others. I've definitely gotten the staff at my school hooked!
as for the "storm", i'm prepared for a pretty little dusting, and then i'll get my hopes up for the next one.
Posted by: dinergirl | February 2, 2009 8:36 PM
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Snow starting here in Herndon... Very Wet and mixing with Rain
Posted by: Snowman_In_Herndon | February 2, 2009 8:39 PM
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Here in Sterling, it rained a little, quickly followed by a change-over at around 7:50. Light snow right now; no accumulation on anything as of yet.
The thing with these coastals is that I can never see where the snow is coming from until it's on the radar. This is just precipitation from the cold front... not from the coastal, so I still feel in the dark.
Apparently, so does NWS, posting only a 50% chance of snow for Sterling tomorrow.
I've been following this one in the model fantasies since last week; if only it was the monster that they were showing before.
Posted by: Sterlingva | February 2, 2009 8:42 PM
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I love you guys, but waiting until 10 pm for the schoolcast will kill me. I need to be up by 5 am :o( I know it doesn't make a difference, but knowing what someone ELSE thinks makes me more of a realist.
Posted by: koofie | February 2, 2009 8:49 PM
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-snowdancesnowdancesnowdance-
Posted by: mbalexandra | February 2, 2009 8:52 PM
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Don't lose sleep waiting for SchoolCast because chances are you won't get to sleep in. How's that for a clue?
Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 8:59 PM
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Two and one half inches at 9 pm, 31 degrees. North wind 5 mph
Nice!!
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 9:00 PM
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Coming down Very Hard now.. All Snow
Windshield getting some snow on it, dirt getting a slight dusting.
Posted by: Snowman_In_Herndon | February 2, 2009 9:01 PM
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Nice clue Jason! Everyone will be in school on time tomorrow.
Posted by: PoorTeacher | February 2, 2009 9:03 PM
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couldn't post til now, hungry people to feed. It rained for about 10 secs before switching over to rain (I left Manassas at 6:30 and by the time i got to New Balt it was snowing steadily.). 3/5 inch and still snowing!
Posted by: weathergrrl | February 2, 2009 9:04 PM
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that was supposed to be 3/4-1 inch. And this is the most excited i've seen augusta jim since the last rain storm in the valley!
Posted by: weathergrrl | February 2, 2009 9:08 PM
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Lots of snow coming down in Reston -- the grass in already covered with white. Whee -- let's hope this storm outperforms what is forecast.
Posted by: photojenn | February 2, 2009 9:08 PM
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snow coming down pretty hard with about an 1/2 inch so far. roads a becoming snow covered. temp 31 degrees with a persistent wind here in Culpeper va.
Posted by: clintonportis17 | February 2, 2009 9:09 PM
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9:10pm. Nada, zilch, dry in NW DC. Curse you, evil "urban heat island", curse you!
Posted by: wrytous | February 2, 2009 9:10 PM
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Where is my snow :)
Posted by: snowlover | February 2, 2009 9:15 PM
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Light sleet in Arlington (near Falls Church).
Posted by: schrute | February 2, 2009 9:16 PM
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extremely quiet in laurel.
too quiet.
Posted by: edwardappleby | February 2, 2009 9:19 PM
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I've got bupkes in Old Town, Alexandria.....
Posted by: Snowlover2 | February 2, 2009 9:24 PM
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Light-to-moderate snow began about 9pm in Oakton, VA. The ground is coated white.
Posted by: Kevin-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 9:28 PM
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Weathergrrl:
You are exactly right! I have received less than 1 inch of snow during the past 381 days!! 4.5" 1-17-08.
Time to get excited!!!!
Posted by: AugustaJim | February 2, 2009 9:32 PM
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We've got sleet in upper NW DC. A new post is up with SchoolCast.
Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 2, 2009 9:38 PM
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Light snow in NW Spotsy. This looks like the last chance 4 a decent snow this winter. Starting Fri. temps r going 2 b above average thru at least mid Feb.
Posted by: VaTechBob | February 2, 2009 9:38 PM
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What's it looking like down here in Albemarle County (more specifically zip 22935)? Dark clouds have moved in and wind/cool air is taking over, no precip yet. Will there be a snow forecast map tonight? Thanks!