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Posted at 4:50 PM ET, 02/27/2010

Forecast: Winds relax for the weekend

By Jason Samenow

A few flakes tonight? Midweek storm?

* Prospects for midweek snow: Snow Lover's Crystal Ball *
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Today's Daily Digit
A somewhat subjective rating of the day's weather, on a scale of 0 to 10.
5Vast improvement over Friday. Less wind, more sun.
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Today: Partly sunny, not as windy. 42-46. | Tonight: Partly to mostly cloudy, light breeze. Chance of a flurry or snow shower. Upper 20s to mid-30s. | Tomorrow: Partly sunny. Chance of a.m. flurry or snow shower. 43-47. | A Look Ahead | Get Express Forecast by E-mail


Thankfully, the storm generating all of the wind over the past two days will steadily lose steam this weekend. So it will be less blustery and more sunny than it's been as of late. Other than the chance of a few flakes tonight into early tomorrow, the calm will last at least into early next week, but we're still closely tracking the next potential storm, which could impact the region late Tuesday into Wednesday.

Radar: Latest D.C. area radar loop shows movement of precipitation over past two hours. Powered by HAMweather. Refresh page to update. Click here or on image to enlarge. Or see radar bigger on our Weather Wall.

Today (Saturday): Our once windy storm will steadily weaken today over the Northeast, so violent gusts will be replaced by gentle breezes (from the west at 10-15 mph). There will still be clouds around, but sun at times -- especially in the afternoon. Highs will reach the mid-40s. Confidence: Medium-High

Tonight: We'll continue with a light breeze along with partly to mostly cloudy skies tonight. A flurry or snow shower -- even a quick dusting somewhere -- isn't out of the question as a bit of upper-level energy comes through. Lows should range from the upper 20s in the suburbs to the low-to-mid 30s downtown. Confidence: Medium

Keep reading for the forecast through early next week...

Tomorrow (Sunday): We'll keep a chance of a flurry or snow shower into the morning. Otherwise, like today, the proximity of the stalled out (but now weak) low over the Northeast will keep some clouds around and a light breeze from the west (around 10-15 mph). But once again, some sun will sneak through at times. Highs will likely again be in the mid-40s. Confidence: Medium-High

Tomorrow Night: Skies will be partly cloudy and we should keep a light breeze going (at around 10 mph). Lows will range from 25 to 32 (suburbs to city). Confidence: Medium


The new week starts off calm on Monday. We'll should have more sunshine than we've in a while with low pressure now well out to sea. Highs will most likely be in the mid-to-upper 40s with lows in the mid-20s to low 30s (suburbs to city). Confidence: Medium-High

Clouds may begin to increase Tuesday, particularly during the afternoon, as low pressure approaches from the south and southeast. Highs should be in the low 40s. Snow is possible (40% chance) Tuesday night (see the Snow Lover's Crystal Ball for more details), with lows in the upper 20s and low 30s. Confidence: Low-Medium

Snow is possible (40% chance) on into Wednesday, possibly mixing with rain or sleet, or missing us altogether. Assuming there are clouds and precipitation, highs should be in the 30s; otherwise, they may reach into the 40s. Confidence: Low-Medium

By Jason Samenow  | February 27, 2010; 4:50 PM ET
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An observation about this winter.

Seems the majority of the systems have arrived in the afternoon/evening.

Is that random or cause/effect?


Posted by: jaybird926 | February 27, 2010 5:48 AM | Report abuse

Nice snow shower or flurries overnight in Glover Park. First "accumulating" snow in awhile. Apt to be gone in a couple of hours, though (although there's still plenty left from previous storms in areas that stay in the shade for most of the day).

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 27, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Is it safe to say that this mid-week storm threat is the last for the season?

All of the extended forecasts I've seen for the first half of March seem to show a warmup to temps around normal (low 50s).

Yes, I know we've had storms in the 2nd week of March. I'm basing this solely on the current extended forecasts.

Posted by: ThinkSpring | February 27, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

It snowed overnight...stuck on my car.

Posted by: Murre | February 27, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

How much snow could we expect at this point

Posted by: snowlover31 | February 27, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Can we get rid of the post from FridayKnight at 809 am? Pointless and rude.

Posted by: krishnanswamy | February 27, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Let me second the call for removal of the 8:09am comment from FridayKnight.

Posted by: --sg | February 27, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

@ThinkSpring, we are not out of the woods yet. I remember one year when the ONLY snow we had was a storm before Dec. 21 and another after March 21. But spring will come, and this year no one will take it for granted!

Posted by: umprof | February 27, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Some discussion questions for this morning... a nice dusting overnight here in North Bethesda? What about in your backyard? ... also, who stayed up for Bob Ryan's sign off last night after the Olympics, and what did you think?

Will be deleting the earlier inappropriate comment.

Posted by: Dan-CapitalWeatherGang | February 27, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

@Dan, I watched Bob Ryan's farewell. It was low key and upbeat, given the emotions beneath the surface. I thought Dan Helle's presence at the end was awkward and distracting, since he is a relative newcomer to the station and Vance and Maureen have been working with Bob for several decades.

I think Vance hinted that we haven't seen the last of Bob. Of course Ryan just said he would "watching the weather" and let it go at that.

Glad you are deleting the inappropriate 8:09 a.m. comment. Seemed particulary gratitous when we've just seen one of this country's very best weather forecasters step down. I hope we'll see more of Bob Ryan on TV and of course he's an important part of WeatherWise, so he shares his knowledge in other ways.

It was nice that Maureen gave Bob a warm hug at the end.

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 27, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Re: previous post, sorry, I'm still half asleep. "Maureen" is of course Doreen Gentzler and she did give Bob such a nice hug.

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 27, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

the thing that distinguishes bob ryan in my mind from the other weathermen is that global warming discussion we had last year with denialist brian valentine. i thought it was so great that someone with bob's credentials/stature would participate in something like that. he answered questions and offered data and stats to back up his position. whatever side of the (false) issue you're on, you've got to appreciate his sticking his neck out like that. i did anyway.

another reason i'll have fond memories of him is he showed "snowde miller" on the news last night, and he showed the grasshopper a few weeks ago!

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 27, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or did the 12z GFS definitely have a glitch in the run?

Posted by: Dylan0513 | February 27, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Dan, we had a dusting in McLean too. Enough to cover the cars and sidewalks but not the roads. Appears to be gone now though. A pleasant surprise for he morning.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | February 27, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

We had a dusting overnight in Riverdale Park, too. Gone now, of course.

Walter, kudos on Snowde Miller!

Posted by: ChickenLady | February 27, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

@Dylan0513, practically the last "weather" item Bob Ryan mentioned last night was that the March 3-4 storm could swing out to sea and miss our region. If so, boo-hoo!

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 27, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Dylan0513 | February 27, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

@Dylan, that GFS does not look good for D.C. Too far east! But it could change... maybe...

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 27, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Dusting overnight in Annandale too. Saw Bob Ryan's sign off. Honestly for me, it was very uncomfortable and he seemed to babble quite a bit (as did the other two) and was uncharacteristically not very eloquent given the situation. It was obvious the warmth between Jim, Doreen and Bob, however. They have been together for a long time and liked each other and it showed.

So my question is, given the rumors that Bob will be heading to ABC with Doug Hill, when is Doug Hill's contract up? I can't see them keeping and paying them both long term. It also seems to me that the mechanics of them sharing are problematic. Who is the 'chief meterologist'? Who leads major weather events? I know Bob and Doug are friends but I see problems with how this would work out.

Posted by: amaranthpa | February 27, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Yea we will see about Bob Ryan's last weather forecast. As far as I am concerned CWG is the best forecasting team in DC and while Bob Ryan may have been a good personality that is all he was and will not be missed.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 27, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Bob did fine as did the co-anchors, but it was a bit awkward as a whole I think. I have some difficulty understanding why someone who puts in 30+yrs at a place gets a sendoff like that (12:30am on a Saturday). I'm sure there are some interesting behind the scenes goings on at NBC. I may not watch them anymore for news.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 27, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

@Dylan, one more thing; is the "glitch you're referring to is that the heaviest precip is far removed from the low? That first image doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given the isobars.

@Ian, I was wondering about the late night Bob Ryan "good-bye" as well. Should have happened during the 6:00 p.m. slot. What we don't know is whether this is something Bob Ryan requested or whether it was yet another inane decision by WRC. Having Dan Hellie there was really gauche. It wasn't that long ago the station was saying goodbye to George Michael.

In one of the late afternoon newscasts, the station had one of their young, newbie reporters attempt snowboarding. This is lame, "Today" fluff stuff and juvenile newscasting.

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 27, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

what the heck (!@#$%!#$%, actually) happened to those sculpture-preservig clouds we were supposed to get today?!?

i ordered clear skies at night (for radiative cooling) and clouds in the day. god must have gotten that backwards.... ugh...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 27, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Just published a Snow Lover's Crystal Ball... but don't get your hopes up too much (if you like snow).

Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 27, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

when shall we expect the SLCB?

Posted by: samdman95 | February 27, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

@Jerry - yeah, the 114 hour looks extremely out of place, like it's from another run.

Posted by: Dylan0513 | February 27, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame that Bob Ryan found it necessary to leave NBC/WRC after an illustrious career as a preeminent TV weather broadcaster. His professionalism, talent as communicator, and personal integrity brought to the TV screen - and meteorology community more generally - a clear understanding of both the capabilities and limitations (uncertainties) in the science(and art) of weather prediction.

On a personal note: when I was starting my career in meteorology in the early '70's, I erroneously believed that becoming a broadcast meteorologist was a reasonable possibility. So, I tried out for a position at a local UHF station in Boston. There was one other competitor who I lost out to. That person, fortunately so for both of us, was Bob Ryan!

I went on to become a happy camper as a research meteorologist, and Bob - well you know the rest of the story. It's virtually impossible to believe, however, that story in front of and behind the TV screen is about to end very soon. Just sitting back and "watching the weather" is not the Bob Ryan I know.

Posted by: SteveT-CapitalWeatherGang | February 27, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

seriously, where are the clouds?

forcast says,
"There will still be clouds around, but sun at times -- especially in the afternoon...."

"sun at times"?! it's been nothing but brutal sun all day! i guess you could say there has been "sun at ALL times..."

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 27, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse


There are fewer clouds than we expected over northern Va., but if you look at the hourly obs, you'll see parts of the region have plenty of clouds around.

Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 27, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"...hourly obs..."

what's and where's that? "hourly observations" maybe?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 27, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

well, i admit there are some clouds popping up NOW - now that the sun angle is really low and the sun's going down anyway... nonetheless glad to have 'em.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 27, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

@rlgeunther: You around today, by any chance? You mentioned that you grew up in Hawaii. I'm watching KHON streaming from the site. Hopefully you don't still have family there?

Posted by: --sg | February 27, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

@Walter - sorry you're having a bad weather day. Hope you get all the snow you want midweek!

Posted by: Frida7 | February 27, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Evening all ... some updates to the forecast above -- a few flakes aren't out of the question tonight/early tomorrow.

Posted by: Dan-CapitalWeatherGang | February 27, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

thanks for your concern. you'd think i'd have come to terms with the idea that these sculptures i make will melt....oh well....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 27, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm wondering how many of the snow/winter -loving crowd grew up in the area...As a kid growing up in Wasdhington, the winters used to be just cold enough to taunt us with an occasional snow storm so that we would ask our parents for sleds and ice skates, which then might sit in the garage for a winter or two before we could use them.

Snow was usually not a good consistency for making snowballs or snowmen, and not pristine: there was often so little on the ground that grass, twigs and debris would be mixed in - not pretty. Any snow creations would melt quickly in a rapid warm-up. (My siter once preserved miniature snowmen in the freezer until July).

Maybe everytime there is that chance of snow, the snow-lovers among us are just trying to re-capture all those winters we felt cheated out of as kids!

Posted by: Frida7 | February 27, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

hmmm.... NWS gives us a 60% chance of snow tues nite

Posted by: samdman95 | February 27, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

CWG, I've been watching the temps on Wednesday (our next upcoming snow day)and you keep making the high temp lower (40 to 39 to 37.)

While I know it's only a forecast, is there any hope that it will go lower than that, i.e., high of 32-33 so that what we get will be all snow?

Posted by: MKoehl | February 27, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse


The forecast you're referring to is automated info from the National Weather Service. Temperatures will be dependent on the storm track and precipitation intensity. If the storm passes just to our east so we stay in the cold air and get heavy precip, then it will be cold enough for all snow (in the low 30s). Because we don't know what the exact storm track will be, the best bet right now is just to say "30s".

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 27, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Jason: Based on your recent comment at 7:51 PM, it appears that normalcy has returned to DC winter weather forecasts. In other words, meteorological indecision has returned, based on the close proximity of the Blue Ridge and Allegheny mountains and the Atlantic coast, making it difficult to make an accurate prediction until the weather event gets closer and reveals itself.

Posted by: MillPond2 | February 27, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

For anyone interested -

Two feet of snow:

(Sculptor unknown, found in the Maryland Weather weblogs at the 'Baltimore Sun website.)

Walter? Have you been skipping out of Falls Church to make snow sculptures in other parts of the Baltimore/DC region? VBG

Posted by: critter69 | February 27, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Have faith snow lovers. If you look at the original predictions for the Dec. 19th storm, they weren't that high.

Posted by: aaf314 | February 27, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse


Warning to everyone: this isn't really weather.

I grew up in Hawaii, and saw the devastation in Hilo after the 1960 tsunami from my father's photos. (He had a business trip to Hilo the morning of the tsunami.)

I don't have family there, but I do have many high school classmates. I checked the Star Bulletin's web site for the tsunami news. Although the tsunami wasn't as big as expected, another (unmentioned) reason there was little damage in Hilo is that the county cleared the waterfront and did not allow rebuilding after the 1960 tsunami.

Posted by: rlguenther | February 27, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

First use of "snowmaggedon" I've seen in a monthly features magazine is in "Railfan and Railroad", April 2010 issue, caption on. p. 53 (which is under a photo of a Rapid Transit snowsweeper being run on Jan. 30. at the Baltimore Streetcar Museum).

Last part of caption reads: "One weekend later, what would become known as 'snowmageddon' hit the Baltimore-Washington area, bringing down trees and catenary along the museum's line."

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 27, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

21 feet of snow this winter in Garrett County, Maryland. And counting...

Posted by: dfoster2 | February 27, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

@rlguenther: Thank you! There was much discussion on the Hawaii stream today of the 1960 tsumani, and also of the 1964 tsumani caused by an Alaskan quake. Traffic cameras had been re-focused to show the waterline, and I noticed that on every shoreline shown, there was no development near the water. It also sounded as if public officials and citizens were well-prepared to respond to the event. Thankfully, it was indeed minor.

Posted by: --sg | February 27, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it was strange for Bob Ryan's farewell to take place at 12:30 am. Dan Hellie looked uncomfortable at the end of the desk. He clearly felt out of place as the other three have been part of the same team for all of these years.

Bob Ryan was an even-keeled weatherman, at least from what I always saw on the broadcasts. He did look upset during the Feb. 5-10 storms. He genuinely appeared to be concerned about the effect that the severe weather would have on many people in the area.

I remember Bob Ryan getting visibly angry only one time on a broadcast. That was during one of our unusually hot spells. (I don't remember if it was a string of 95+ days in the summer or some 70F days in the late winter.) Al Gore linked that month's weather directly to global warming. Now I'm sure that Bob Ryan is appreciative of the general effects of global warming on overall averages but he knew that one small weather pattern didn't directly prove anything. The segment from Al Gore's public statement aired right before Bob Ryan's weather forecast. When he appeared on camera, his face was red with anger and he lashed out at Gore for politicizing that week's weather. It wasn't so much that he was disagreeing with the general ideas of Gore but with the politicization of the weather. Ryan clearly wanted all politicians away from his specialty.

NB: This is not intended to start up a debate about global warming here. I'm not denying that it exists. I'm only pointing out how visibly angry Bob Ryan became on camera over a momentary attempt by a politician to move in on his subject. I'm sure there have been statements from politicians on the other side of the aisle that also got under Ryan's skin over the years but maybe no one else tried to take over the job of weather forecasting as directly as Gore did that week.

As for Tue. and Wed., I'm perfectly happy to see that storm head out to sea and miss us. I'm finally able to run and bike outside again. It's almost March and it's Washington, D.C. Our average highs are now at 50F. Time for winter to end.

Posted by: 123home123 | February 28, 2010 3:01 AM | Report abuse

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