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Posted at 3:40 PM ET, 02/25/2010

PM Update: Winds rage tonight and tomorrow

By Ian Livingston

Some snow showers possible as well

* High Wind Warning tonight thru Fri. p.m. (map) | NWS snow totals *
* New: CWG Snowmageddon T-shirts | Bob Ryan leaving 4 *

The super-windy "partly cloudy storm" is ongoing, though the winds are only just starting to howl and we might see some snowflakes fall from the sky yet. Highs in the upper 30s and lower 40s feel a good bit colder thanks to gusts already passing 35-40 mph. Winds continue to increase this evening and will really go to town overnight into tomorrow. With our super-saturated and recently thawed soil, watch out for toppling trees and power poles.

Radar: Latest regional radar shows movement of precipitation over past three hours. Powered by HAMweather. Refresh page to update. Click here or on image to enlarge. Or see radar bigger on our Weather Wall.

Through Tonight: It will be windy as gusts past 50 mph continue through the night. Clouds thicken back up as the storm reverses course and heads back toward us. Snow showers or flurries are possible, with the best chances after midnight. Snow should not be much more than a conversational type, perhaps up to nuisance levels. Lows fall to the mid-and-upper 20s with windchills falling well below that.

Tomorrow (Friday): Hopefully you enjoy wind, because it will still be fierce in the morning as gusts past 50 mph persist. We could see snow showers on and off much of the day as the storm spins to our north. However, moisture will be harder and harder to come by as the storm dries up over land. Highs rise mainly into the upper 30s. Winds start to taper late but remain strong.

Accumulations: Total accumulations (tonight and tomorrow) up to about 1" are possible, though many spots may see a dusting or less.

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By Ian Livingston  | February 25, 2010; 3:40 PM ET
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Snow bands are closing in on Carroll County. Still hard to tell from the storm direction and radar just how far south the heavier bands will get; but I think we have a chance for several inches overnight here in Eldersburg, MD. Would you agree CWG?

Posted by: DLO1975 | February 25, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

CWG, your post says that tomorrow is Thursday. Not a big deal, just pointing it out.

Posted by: wecndo | February 25, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Just requesting "Tomorrow (Thursday)" to read Friday. feel free to delete this comment=).
Otherwise, love CWG's work, and my change of heart about snow includes LOVing the spring-like warmth we've been having. Looking forward to spring flowers.

Posted by: dmcqb | February 25, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm in Fairfax city and there are some very minor flurries right now.

Posted by: mscmsc | February 25, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Tomorrow is Thursday too? Oh man, don't make me live thru Thursday twice. Once is bad enough. Come on Friday!

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 25, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

@wecndo @dmcqb

You guys are quick! ... try a reload and it should be fixed. thx.

Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I counted about five snowflakes while I was outside walking my dog here in Alexandria. It looks like some clouds are moving in and the wind is picking up.

Posted by: letitsnow | February 25, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

letitsnow - we definitely have some atmospheric instability moving into our region, causing exactly what you are seeing here at the surface. Oof! hang on!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Some very strong winds in Manassas....loose debris & small branches broken off earlier in month flying all over. Be careful driving!

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 25, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

This storm doesn't seem to be affecting roads until you get to Northeastern PA, near Scranton, and the western half of Upstate NY. None of the heavily populated areas in the Northeast have terrible road conditions, or at least appear to judging by the traffic cameras I was checking out. Maybe tonight they will get bad, but seems like this storm isn't as bad as it could have been due to the temperatures.

Posted by: rocotten | February 25, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Note the High Wind Watch has become a High Wind Warning.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

rocotten...yeah, pretty crazy...rain mixing even into much of New England (except far northern parts). Only west of the low pressure is it snowing AND sticking
and that's mostly confined to the areas you've mentioned (at least for now).

Posted by: BH99 | February 25, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse







Posted by: LLLrrr555 | February 25, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Just talked to family in Allentown, PA. It's been snowing all day; sticking to everything except the roads. Just won't start here in Eldersburg...probably several hours away actually. Just hoping for some heavy bands to make their way through tonight!

Posted by: DLO1975 | February 25, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

HPC says chances are increasing for a snowstorm next week in the mid-Atlantic.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Have seen a few lonely flakes float past my office window here in Arlington, but nothing major.

It was gorgeous outside until an hour or two ago.....


Kim in Manassas

Posted by: ksrgatorfn1 | February 25, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

4 all u snow haters, this is winters last gasp 4 this area, temps in the 50's by the end of next week. Now time 2 start wondering what next winter will bring. At least I was able 2 finally fish the 301 Bridge on Mon. & Tues, & hopefully the winds will die down next week.

Posted by: VaTechBob | February 25, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"Hopefully you enjoy wind"

Not so much in the winter time... went to the recycling transfer station with a giant cardboard box and almost blew away...

Posted by: spgass1 | February 25, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Ian...trying to interpret the HPC guidance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they're saying that the EMCWF puts a low around Cape Hatteras sometime late next week and that confidence may grow with this solution because 1. the GFS has also trended further north in its latest run and 2. the European models (which I'm guessing the EMCWF is?) have been pretty accurate this winter? Thanks...

Posted by: BH99 | February 25, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse


So as long as we only gust to 55 MPH, my house is safe? I get what they are trying to say...but they should work on saying it.

Posted by: amaranthpa | February 25, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If I understand you correctly, HPC states there will be cold air in place, and a low coming up the coast?

(Yea, like I haven't heard that one before this winter...) :P

But do I understand you right?

Posted by: MKoehl | February 25, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Northwest tip of Virginia (Frederick County) must have at least a couple inches by now. Pretty persistent band up there. Peaks almost at 3000' on that border...if only Sugarloaf could produce that kind of snow for DC!!!

Posted by: BH99 | February 25, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

@Ian, I just refilled the ice cube trays. Keep it coming!

Plus, I want to wear my new CWG tee on a snowy day in March 2010.

Already suffering from Bob Ryan withdrawal and he he still one more day to go at WRC. What a bummer!

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 25, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

BH99, my wife just gave me a report from Winchester: "It's snowing here but it's pretty light but the wind is knocking it around so much it looks like it's snowing upward."

Posted by: spgass1 | February 25, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Re: HPC on the next storm. I think the posts here are fairly accurate in deciphering their words. The EURO and some other foreign guidance has trended a bit north the last day or so... still south of us for the most part though. The GFS is probably one of the more southern or "flat" solutions as the low does not really start climbing north till well offshore. I *think* they may be focusing on south of us for now, but perhaps up to us. I'm not really sure what "southern mid atlantic" refers to but their forecast positions of the low still look a bit south for a big hit here. There have been numerous instances this winter (and many winters) where a low comes north as you get closer to the event. I know many on the weather boards have been excited about this one for about a week now -- remarkable consistency on models for a storm at least forming down south.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Moderate squall moving through NW Montgomery.

Posted by: MKadyman | February 25, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Out here in Lake Linganore (Frederick, MD). We got about a quarter of an inch last night, but I could see sharp cut-offs driving east on 70; barely anything on the trees then suddenly an inch on all the branches during Carroll Co., and then nothing into Howard Co.

As I type this, I see no winds here. They were starting to pick up, though, when I left work around 4 pm in Columbia.

Posted by: JSTF | February 25, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

High Wind Warning now starts at 10pm, not Midnight.

Posted by: Rob63 | February 25, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

For snow lovers ONLY...NWS last update at 6:15 is pushing the snow line south into Northern Virginia.


Posted by: kdvols1 | February 25, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

i have made a new sculpture. need to "trim" bits of it off and take pics. i'll post them here later this evening.

before/while viewing it, hum the olympic theme...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 25, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait Walter...the highlight of the day ; )

Posted by: worldtraveler83 | February 25, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Walter! That will make this "bust" worthwhile!

Posted by: JSTF | February 25, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse


i was just outside and could see the moon and venus(?) and it was snowing! i presume that snow blew in from pennsylvania or something?


Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 25, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait Walter

Posted by: tbva | February 25, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

NYC is sort of a "bust" too...they seem to be on the rain/snow line most of the day.

Back in 1888 the rain/snow line in that blizzard was east of NYC in CT.

Turns out, this storm may have been overhyped. Except for the wind, it's not really meeting pre-storm expectations.

Posted by: Bombo47jea | February 25, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Walter, that's Mars near the Moon tonight.

Posted by: david_in_stafford | February 25, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Looks like climatology is winning week temps don't look conducive for snow. Still don't see how anyone could wish for more snow...but what do I know, I just own a house, car and really work all week!
By the way, good site and all, but the T-shirt marketing is a bit tacky IMHO.

Posted by: seasejs | February 25, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I say hang in there on this storm. This is a drawn-out event. Wouldn't be surprised to see areas north and east of town get 1-2 inches. This storm is stronger than predicted on the models, so its moisture fetch will be a little bigger. Fun to watch big retrograding storms!

Posted by: curtmccormick | February 25, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

yeah...NYC is right on the rain/snow line. Seems like the only really hard hit (1 foot+) places were (are) the high spots in far NW New Jersey, the Poconos, Catskills, and most anywhere above 2000 feet in New England.

Posted by: BH99 | February 25, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

HPC says chances are increasing for a snowstorm next week in the mid-Atlantic.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 4:56 PM


Ian -

That's NOT funny!

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | February 25, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

@VaTechBob -

Where at the 301 Bridge do you fish?

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | February 25, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

By the way, good site and all, but the T-shirt marketing is a bit tacky IMHO.

Posted by: seasejs | February 25, 2010 8:12 PM


Don't buy one.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | February 25, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

This may be a dumb question, but I gotta ask...Is there any history of area school closures due to high winds?

Posted by: chrissie413 | February 25, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Some of the terms the Philadelphia boo birds (who've posted today at the Inquirer) are using to describe this storm:

"Flurricane" "Flurrypalooza" "Wetmageddon"

Best of all is how the Inquirer's snow quiz is worded:

"How much snow will this storm lay on Philly?"

They're a different breed up there... threatening to run a weatherman out of town, etc.

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 25, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I thought that was why you were asking about the freeze at night (earlier).

Way to go!

Posted by: celestun100 | February 25, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I asked that very question at work today (FCPS teacher) and was told that they've had "hurricane days" before, but I think the winds would need to be higher than what we're going to experience.

Posted by: fitzcarraldo | February 25, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember if the winds were gusting this bad during the last blizzard couple of weeks ago?

Posted by: RoseVA | February 25, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

re mars: thanks.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 25, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

franz klammer! or maybe....snowde miller...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 25, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Walter, your latest is simply amazing!

Posted by: Murre | February 25, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

@chrissie. When I lived in FL schools would close for high winds because the school buses were not safe to drive if the wind was too strong. Usually related to hurricanes, but not always.

Posted by: B-Kraemer | February 25, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Walter, that is just so amazing. My nieces love your sculptures.

Posted by: RoseVA | February 25, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Very impressive, Walter. Are you planning to sculpt do a snowboarder (with or without red hair)?

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 25, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

thanks! excellent. i love that people tell two friends who tell two friends and so on....

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 25, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

looks like it could be around a while - i see days w/clouds on the NWS "at a glance". a snow sculpture can stand 40 degrees and cloudy days. it's 45 and sunny they hate.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 25, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Walter, you're welcome re Mars.

You have done another great job on your latest sculpture! I don't like the snow and cold of winter, but your sculptures sure do make the season more tolerable for me.

Posted by: david_in_stafford | February 25, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse


Looks like your yard is running "low" of snow. I see lots of grass : o I still have a ton you can have ( Western Loudoun). You really are an artist. Thanks for (again) bringing joy and amusement to the winter. ( As if the snowstorms and blizzard wasn't enough enjoyment!!) What are we going to do without your sculptures??

Posted by: worldtraveler83 | February 25, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Walter, I was depressed about the lack of snow today, so was particularly happy to see your posted tribute to the Olympics - Fantastic...they just keep getting better. Thanks for sharing your artistry.

Posted by: Frida7 | February 25, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Re "sort of a bust". Well the one thing it sorely lacked was a good slug of gulf moisture. Eastern New England is getting heavy although unspectacular rain and there's some heavy snow across parts of NY and western NE. The Philly area stations had a burst of heavy snow but now light snow (bust for them?). The Catskills and Poconos will get pummeled. Also this will last quite a while longer and the pressures are still dropping rapidly. A bust only in the initial moisture department. Unisys says pressure is now 972

Posted by: eric654 | February 25, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Thanks for the art from snow. I've been wondering, .... do you do sand sculptures as well? If so, what beach.

Posted by: Restondad2 | February 25, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

@Ian-- Would you put the chance of a storm next week at Thursday time frame right now? Sounds like I need to consider a contingency plan with Dr appts for the family that I have scheduled, yes?

I'm not making changes yet, but let's say you got my attention...

Posted by: southbridgemom | February 25, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

@walter-in-falls-church: Another gold medal effort from you! Your sculptures are marvelous.

Posted by: --sg | February 25, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

eric654, Like you allude to, it's a very big storm by and seasonal norm... probably the fourth NESIS or Kocin/Uccellini event. I believe that either ties a record or is a record if the case (with March to go). There is/was some Gulf moisture, the trough axis just sent it out to sea initially. I think some liquid numbers that are quite high will be realized. Part of the problem is that it's cutting in off the ocean so it's sending a lot of "warm air" into the big population centers it is hitting. Places like Binghamton and the Catskills, no strangers to big snow, will probably still end up with a sizeable+ event even by their standards. The temperature profile is very interesting too, like heavy snow in SW CT while the hills just north of there are raining in the 40s.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

thanks guys! i love especially the "i hate winter except for your sculptures" comments. just great!

yes, snow is running out, but this is still more than i'm used to having. i began this sculpture fully expecting it to be the last of the season...but now...i understand the supply may be refreshed next week, maybe, possibly?!

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 25, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

southbridgemom, where it is and the fact that it's shown up consistently on models means it's probably worth tuning in as we get closer. It's too far out to really say much other than there will probably be a storm forming in the south.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse


a complete masterpiece! As usual! Here's hoping you have a chance to do one more!

Posted by: Snowlover2 | February 25, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Not as cool as Walter's sculptures, but here is the link to the Chesapeake Bay Office of Forecasting Services animated wind forecast for the majority of our region:

As mentioned previously: Black arrows are bad.

This site is most interesting to watch as as storm retrogrades, as this one will, or as a storm pulls away from us.

Posted by: --sg | February 25, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Really nice art, Walter, as always. I like the "Snowde Miller" name. I thought it was great Bode won gold this year.

I can see you sticking with the Olympics theme when we get more snow, but one other idea that might look kinda cool is a St. Bernard with flask.

Posted by: spgass1 | February 25, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

@sg - interesting map. As someone with northwest walls, I am probably going to keep a vigil tonight. Feels like my walls will pop or windows will crash.

Question - The picture depicts general wind speed tonight or the gusts?

Posted by: RoseVA | February 25, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

@Ian-- I hear ya, I know that it's far too early to say if it will come remotely close to us, but as you have said before seasonal trends cannot be ignored. My only concern at this point is timing. If it's coming, it's coming. I'm just trying to make changes in our appt schedule (if we have to) that will have minimum impact down the road. Thanks!

Posted by: southbridgemom | February 25, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

@chrissie-Fairfax county usually doesn't hold classes in trailers during high winds. Schools will be open tomorrow, but nobody will be in trailers while there is a High Wind Warning in effect. Where they will hold classes is beyond me (if there were room in the schools they wouldn't need all the trailers now would they?)

Posted by: kirom | February 25, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Holy cow -- I hit the 'submit' button on my last post and a huge gust of wind came thru here! I'll take my chances and put the trash out in the AM for Friday trash day. If I go out now my trash will end up at Quantico by sunrise if the winds keep up like I just heard! Be safe, everyone!

Posted by: southbridgemom | February 25, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Very gusty here too in NW DC! I can hear it whistling & howling outside. wow.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

here's another cool map that shows wind direction and wind speed at various sites across the metro area.

I am pretty tempted to lock the house and go to my family's house for the night. At the least I can sleep peacefully over there. My room doesn't have northwest facing walls and windows over there.

Posted by: RoseVA | February 25, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RoseVA | February 25, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Canaan Valley is reporting 217" of natural snow this season. Does anyone know the WV state record?

Posted by: spgass1 | February 25, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Just heard the first tree go down in the woods behind my apt. Hopefully, I don't wake up with a new skylight.

Posted by: Brian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Actually saw a few metal light poles down on the drive home from work just a few minutes ago.

Posted by: Havoc737 | February 25, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

@Brian, hey, Mother Nature can remodel your place for free! Lol jk, I hope it doesn't though. We still have a sidewalk FULL of tree limbs from Snowmageddon. One neighbor chainsawed the most dangerous of the branches from the trees, but no one has moved the debris yet (The deep snow has kind of made it a non-issue). I have been saying forever that I'll move it and chop it up, but it just hasn't seemed worth the effort until now.

Posted by: TheAnalyst | February 25, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

@spgass1, Walter and I looked for the WV state snowfall record a couple of weeks ago and couldn't find it. Since Snowshoe averages 180" a season, I'm guessing the record was set either in 1976-77 or 1995-96 (when Elkins had c.a. 140"). I can't remember if Spruce Knob has a weather station atop the mountain.

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 25, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

B>The impacts of this storm in New England are fascinating. It's raining pretty much from SE Connecticut all the way up to Canada, yet snowing in New York City. Current air pressure in Hyannis, Mass. is 27.71. Portsmouth, NH recently gusted to 68 mph. Boston has gusted to 60mph. Cold front is expected to push through Nantucket from the South/Southwest. This is wild.

Posted by: Andrew-CapitalWeatherGang | February 25, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

@RoseVA: The CBOFS graphic depicts general expected wind speeds. Gusts will spike higher but not be shown on the map.

Posted by: --sg | February 26, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh...latest GFS run has a coastal storm off of the Carolinas on Wed/Thurs...bringing the forecast more in line with the let's wait to see if the models trend to the north...

Posted by: Ayrwulf | February 26, 2010 12:33 AM | Report abuse

current sustained winds on Mount Washington at 100 miles per hour with gusts to 125. Not too unusual for up there, but still impressive. No "bust" for them at least...they'll probably total 30"+ for this storm. Strange storm...snow and rain in far northern New Hampshire and much of Maine,but it looks like the rest of New England is pretty much dry at the moment.

Posted by: BH99 | February 26, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

pretty darned impressive area of snow dropping south out of Pennsylvania into central Maryland, looking even more impressive than the models have been indicating.

Posted by: foul_throw | February 26, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Just an interesting note regarding the cold surge of air making its way down here, but Fairbanks, AK is suddenly turning far colder again too. This past week they warmed up somewhat, with Highs in the 20's(F), and Lows around 0(F). Now however, they are heading back to Lows of -20(F), and Highs that are Sub-Zero. Seeing Twenty Below Zero temperatures nearing March is most certainly below average, even up there. Normally that is their average Winter temperature (Except for a week or two in January, when they stay around -40(F)). The Iditarod this year might end up being held in close to original conditions (The modern race is in March, but the original serum run was in January/February)!

Posted by: TheAnalyst | February 26, 2010 1:46 AM | Report abuse

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