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Posted at 6:00 PM ET, 02/ 5/2010

Blizzard warning expanded west to D.C.

By Ian Livingston

Dangerous conditions and 12"+ expected overnight

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5:50 p.m.: The blizzard warning, earlier in effect for only the far eastern suburbs, has been extended west through the District.

Snowmageddon is here and it's just warming up. So far, the snow has been light to moderate as temperatures settle to and below freezing. Accumulations through now are on the order of a dusting to around 1-2" and road surfaces are begining to be affected as temperatures cool and the sun sets. The real deal arrives this evening and overnight, when snow could temporarily fall up to 2" or 3" per hour, rivaling the most intense rates this region ever witnesses. About as thrilling of a National Weatherperson Day as one could put together, right?


Periods of heavy snow are expected to enter the region around 7 p.m. (0z) and continue through much of the night. Image courtesy: The Storm Prediction Center.

Through tonight: Get ready (if you stay up) for some of the heaviest -- if not the heaviest -- snowfall rates you ever see around here. It will come down in buckets, perhaps with some thunder, most of the night after things intensify markedly by 7 p.m. or so. The heaviest focus is likely from around 10 p.m. through sunrise. While most locations should pick up at least 1 foot overnight alone, don't be surprised if some spots pick up a good bit more. Lows drop to the mid-and-upper 20s as northeast winds blow around 20 mph, with higher gusts, leading to near-blizzard conditions.

Tomorrow (Saturday): If the huge amount of snow on the ground in the morning is not enough, no worries, because snow continues through much of the day Saturday. Snow will be most intense early but we should see a lighter and fluffier snow with some moderate to heavy periods lasting into the early evening. Additional accumulations of 4-8"+ are possible before it winds down. Highs rise to the upper 20s to around 30. Winds remain gusty from the northeast causnig blowing and drifting of snow.

Brief look ahead: As if we have not seen enough wintry weather lately, there's already another (much smaller) threat in the pipeline for late Tuesday into Wednesday. Right now it looks like it could threaten with just about every precipitation type depending on the ultimate track. In an already very snowy winter, it is certainly worth watching.

By Ian Livingston  | February 5, 2010; 6:00 PM ET
Categories:  Snowmageddon  
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Comments

Posted by: samdman95 | February 5, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Snow has really picked up in intensity here in Calverton/Beltsville. Road still just wet but it's sticking to the trees and sidewalks.

Posted by: ana_b | February 5, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Congrats CWG - Y'all have tried so hard to be conservative and scientific and reserved all week.

But I can tell from the way you're writing that you're practically giddy.

For a meteorologist this must be akin to the first moon landing.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Vingold | February 5, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Fourth! Big fat fluffy flakes in Forest Glen.

Posted by: OMGPonies | February 5, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

People, don't forget that Ted Leonsis is NOT Dan Snyder. He also isn't answering the phones at the VC or acts as a meterologist in his spare time. Have faith and patience and let the storm play out just like he is.

Ted might not offer fans unable to attend tonight's game a full refund or seats on the glass for a playoff game, but he will do something. It might be a food voucher as some suggested, it might be a partial refund or tickets to a game next year, but he won't just sit back and laugh his way to the bank the way Danny Boy would. Mark my words. Just give him some time. Ted represents everything that is right about sports ownership and he will not let any of you down.

Posted by: RickyBobby | February 5, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

So my math's a little bumpy, but where does this put us (meaning DC) in terms of meeting the 16-26" on the CWG map or the 20-30" NWS is calling for?

Posted by: mirrorball | February 5, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

(That is to say, are we on track to meet either of those projections?)

Posted by: mirrorball | February 5, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

mirrorball - at least a foot overnight, and 4-8 inches tomorrow. Adding those two together gets you 16 inches, minimum.

Some areas will receive "a good bit more" than a foot, plus the high end of the 4-8 inch range, and you could be at 26 inches.

(I'm not a meteorolgist, just doing math).

Posted by: TheTim | February 5, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

mirrorball, I think we're on track for both at this point.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

@mirrorball
hell yeah! looks like we'll have several inches before long. . . say 5. then at least 12 more overnight for a total of 17. plus another (conservatively) 6 more tomorrow. . . equals 22. And those are conservative numbers, yes? whew this is going to be intense. . .

Posted by: elizqueen | February 5, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Sorry CWG- no more updated weather reports from me in Glover Park-I SIMPLY COULD NOT FACE THIS STORM-BEING SMOTHERED AGAIN AND STUCK INSIDE-COULD NOT.

Instead, I hightailed it out of town to VEGAS BABY! If you're not in Miami, this is the place to be! 60 degrees-slight breeze-yeah-no more cabin fever!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | February 5, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Last 15 minutes has seen serious snow start to blow around here in Courthouse. I can start to imagine that this will turn into an actual blizzard soon.

Posted by: matthew_lawlor | February 5, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

sticking now to untreated pavement and cars - 3:50 pm Ch Ch NW DC

Posted by: jay4811 | February 5, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, either our 16-26 or NWS's 20-30 could verify. Not sure it matters that much at this point... dangerous, high impact storm irrespective of its place in the record books.

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

26" does not a Knickerbocker record breaker make

Posted by: OMGPonies | February 5, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Happy National Weatherperson Day! Is there any better way to celebrate than with 20" of snow expected!

Posted by: Russell_Family | February 5, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that's what I figured. Just wanted to make sure my brain was still working. Glad to know I'll be leaving the office very shortly.

Posted by: mirrorball | February 5, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Still 34 degrees, road clear in NE DC...starting to hear some contradictory forecasts. I don't know beans about predictions but would love to hear from the experts.

Posted by: jawz33 | February 5, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Yeah. Okay. The sh&t has really hit the fan here in NW over the past hour - snow has gone from light to heavy, winds picking up, and snow is now sticking to roadways.

Posted by: fleeciewool | February 5, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

OMGPonies, I think a range like ours would be expected to be bookended by higher and (maybe not in this case) lower numbers. Persistant banding will almost surely put someone in the larger region over 30".

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Spring_Rain -- I'm watching this unfold from Mobile, AL, where's it's a balmy 57 with mostly cloudy skies. I'm living vicariously through trafficland.com cameras and y'all's weather reports ;)

Posted by: weatherdudeVA | February 5, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Starting to come down stronger now in Ellicott City. I think Bob Ryan was calling for it to only get going around 4pm if not later. In any case, still minimal accumulations (grass and cars), but things are definitely picking up.

Posted by: Finn1917 | February 5, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Stupid question - but someone down in southern VA says they only have rain and not snow. Is there a chance that not all of it will turn into snow up here?

Posted by: hereandnow1 | February 5, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Fat falkes in Falls Church, starting to stick to the driveway. Gonna do a first scrape in an hour or so. Hubby siad he felt like he should stay up late to shovel a couple of times...like keeping a stove fire going.....

Posted by: tbva | February 5, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Nothing yet here in Berks County Pennsylvania. Keep your snow to yourselves!!

Posted by: jazzfan19605 | February 5, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Well, it is 4:03, and snow is just starting to accumulate on the rails of my balcony, and the paving stones of my courtyard. Darn, you guys are good.

Posted by: Snowlover2 | February 5, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Snow has been sticking here for a while -- more than inch on road, couple inches in driveway.

Posted by: lsbg-ers | February 5, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Sticking to the roads now here in Centreville

Posted by: saltydog75 | February 5, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

EPIC SNOW STORM = EPIC FAIL. It's 4 pm and we were supposed to have 6 inches of snow already. Nothing sticking so far. FAIL!

Posted by: jamalnasir_2000 | February 5, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

CWG, other weather experts,
seriously, be straight with me. is something going wrong? is it warmer than it was supposed to be? are we still looking at 20"+?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 5, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

It's beautiful outside (as long as I don't have to drive in it). Great forecasting on this site !

Posted by: letitsnow | February 5, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

@jamalnasir_2000

Thanks for the comment ... Would be curious to know who's forecast gave you 6 inches by 4 p.m. today? Certainly didn't come from here.

Posted by: Dan-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

@jamalnasir_2000, there was supposed to be 2-4 inches today. its 4 pm and here in bethesda there is already 2 inches. Go back here in 24 hours and then tell me if you think this storm is a bust. (if your power is still working that is)

Posted by: samdman95 | February 5, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

@jamalnasir - that sucks because we are supposed to have 1-3 or so by 7:00 and I think I will hit that! we have about 1/4-1/2 on our patio table and I could see 2" by 7, but at least 1" This storm is going to produce more snow at times tonight in 15-30 minutes than we have seen all do so far! Do cry bust yet. Wait until tomorrow moring to start talking bust!

Posted by: snowlover | February 5, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Snow is definitely covering cars here in Laurel, with light patches sticking the the parking lot and road. Snow is moderate and steady. Wheeeeee!

(I'm almost glad I have the flu so I don't have to feel guilty layin' around watching this blog and the snow out the window)

Posted by: megamuphen | February 5, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Jamal, Walter and others = blog reading FAIL!

Read before you post people!

Posted by: BobLHead | February 5, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@walter-in-fallschurch

Might want to re-read our forecasts over the past several days, which mentioned that snow probably wouldn't accumulate more than a few inches until we get into the evening.

Posted by: Dan-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Snow starting to cover things here in downtown DC too!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I suppose the final total will depend on how long the Low hangs out just off the coast, right...?

Posted by: Juan-John | February 5, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know the most snow accumulation in an hour is here in DC? I would imagin 4" or so, but would be interesting to know!

Posted by: snowlover | February 5, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Kingstowne/Franconia section of Fairfax County: light snow now sticking to untreated suburban street.

Posted by: InVA1 | February 5, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

But I though we were not supposed to expect any real accumulations until early evening.

It's 32 and sticking impressively in Olney---streets covered, even.

Posted by: lilymama | February 5, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I am going to pull an all nighter tonight to witness snowfall rates and wind/snowfall rates I might never again see in my lifetime! This is truely a dream come true if it pans out!!!!!

Posted by: snowlover | February 5, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

ok, thanks dan... i'll chillax a while...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 5, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

This reminds me of a storm from back when I was a kid living in NJ.

The original forecast was for 4-6 inches. Then 6-10. Then they threw in the towel, "Batten down the hatches!"

This evening is going to be crazy!

Posted by: keithrjackson | February 5, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

@capitalweather - Any long-range forecasts for next weekend... i have a big birthday party planned for my daughter...

Posted by: timeagle | February 5, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Accumulation on car tops downtown, roads beginning to show light slush.

Posted by: BobLHead | February 5, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

get all your updates, and the latest strategy on how to cope with the snow, at:

http://www.snowmageddondc.com

Posted by: you-dont | February 5, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Finally! Snowing heavy here in upper NW DC with over an inch. I really hope we make it to two feet in the district

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Begun sticking and accumulating on roads and sidewalks here in Bethesda. Time to curl up with a good book or two, or three.

Posted by: mfein2 | February 5, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

This is so much bull. I'm going drinking.

Posted by: blasmaic | February 5, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

upset that it is still 33 degrees...

Posted by: rocotten | February 5, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

What are you people talking about? Its snowing heavily in NW Montgomery, I have 3 inches at least, and its below freezing.

Posted by: MKadyman | February 5, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I just measured 3" of very wet, heavy snow a few miles to the west of Oakton, VA. The temperature is finally inching down to 32.

Posted by: Kevin-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Finally home (my library system stayed open until 4pm!) and very glad I live across the street from my library.

Starting around 3:30 the snow started sticking here in downtown Frederick, MD, and now it's starting to cover the treated road in front of my apartment.

Flakes are huge, fat and fluffy. With temps of 34 degrees, I hope that the temp drops some soon so we can get these flakes to dry up some!

Posted by: dettiot | February 5, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

4.30 here in east baltimore and it's still only sticking to elevated items and cars but no streets yet. weather underground tells me we're still above freezing. contemplating staying up all night to watch the snow fall...


and on the storm cooking front, I've already made yeast rolls and I have oatmeal bread in the machine now :-)

Posted by: bachaney | February 5, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Heaviest snow of the day in Centerville VA. It has really picked up in the last 30 minutes. Roads & roofs that had stayed persistently wet all afternoon now have snow cover. Temp right above freezing. Looks like road conditions may go downhill fairly rapidly unless the snow slacks off again.
Thundersnow would be so cool.

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 5, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Much has been made of the infamous Knickerbocker Storm of 1922. CWG: where was the snow total measured? I don't think Reagan National's predecessor, Hoover Airport, was the measuring point in 1922. And, I believe the famous Snow King winter of 1898-99 was measured somewhere in downtown. This info would help properly place modern major snowfalls in the record books.

Posted by: kukie | February 5, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Upper NW DC tends to see more snow and it accumulates first because of the elevation. The highest elevation at 420 ft is right in Fort Reno Park near Tenley Town. That is a good elevation considering most of area is at sea level in DC and that is higher than areas even like Dulles and Rockville.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Just starting to stick in western Fairfax Co.

Posted by: dand187 | February 5, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

@mfein2: Yes it is. Snowplow sighting in downtown Bethesda. Swooped in, did two passes in a pay lot, and then back out to Wisconsin Ave. They obviously want to stay ahead of this one as long as they can.

Posted by: Cat11endofdays | February 5, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Just measured 2.5" of wet snow on the Snow Collection Platform of Science on the back deck. The trees are beautiful!

Posted by: kedzie | February 5, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Sorry... location for that 2.5" is Dunn Loring, between Tysons and Vienna.

Posted by: kedzie | February 5, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

This is so much bull. I'm going drinking.
_____

SCORE!

Posted by: jamalnasir_2000 | February 5, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Snow starting to cover streets and sidewalks here in Tenleytown, highest point in the city. Snow is very wet and heavy, and has accumulated maybe 2-3 inches on grass and bushes.

Posted by: Langway4Eva | February 5, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

nobody is expecting the underground metro to stop running before midnight tonight, right? I'm heading from CP to dupont in a bit and expect to be metro-ing and walking home around 11. am i really going to "QUICKLY BECOME DISORIENTED IN WIND DRIVEN SNOW AND COLD" walking up Porter street?

Posted by: dotjeffdot | February 5, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

@ajmupitt - Rockville is at 451 feet. not lower than the highest point in DC. But not much higher!

Posted by: AndrewRockville | February 5, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

kukie: I think snow was measured at 24th & M back then.

Posted by: Langway4Eva | February 5, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Is the measuring station at DCA elevated off the ground?

Posted by: snowlover | February 5, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Just came in from shoveling two inches off the steps. I'm telling you -- it is REALLY wet. More like falling slush than snow. Not like that powder we got a few days ago.

I would not be surprised if that 2 feet of snow we get turns very quickly to 2 feet of ice, which will be impossible to remove with simply a snow shovel, especially if temps drop below freezing.

Posted by: ooyah32 | February 5, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

National Weather Service (and their TruPoint system) is now calling for rain in Arlington?

Steady snow will mix with then change over to rain around 8pm. Cloudy with temperatures steady near the low 30s. Winds ENE at 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precip 90%. About one inch of additional snow through 10pm.

Posted by: techmen | February 5, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

CWG folks.......I heard Doug Hill around 3:30 this afternoon mention the possibilty that a secondary low could form off the coast behind the main low that is forming right now off the North Carolina coast. He said if this happens it could prolong the heavy snow in NOVA longer tomorrow than forecasters are currently predicting. Any thoughts on this possibility?

Posted by: RWRose | February 5, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Really starting to stick in Dupont/Adams Morgan. My street is white, as is 19th Street NW.

Posted by: todd27 | February 5, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

snowlover, it's 2m above ground level. Which means it's pretty darn close to sea level, haha (DCA is close to the lowest point in DC. I know the National Mall is 16ft above sea level.)

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

RWRose, that is what we are expecting - that's why the snow totals will be so high.

techmen, that is a glitch in the system. No rain in Arlington.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Changed over to some rather large flakes in columbia now, and am currently being entertained by a rather jittery squirrel on the tree branch out my window...

Posted by: Brian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

OK, maybe someone posted this somewhere else, and it is Accuweather, but I HAD to share this - I was laughing quite a bit. http://www.accuweather.com/video-on-demand.asp?video=1671939093

Posted by: kridgely | February 5, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Snow this heavy (weight-wise) is certain to snap power lines.

Folks better have enough food that doesn't need cooking. And they better have enough blankets and warm clothing in case their power does go out and take their furnace with it. It would be a COLD night with no heat.

Posted by: ooyah32 | February 5, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

@AndrewRockville

Sorry to shortchange Rockville. I just thought it was interesting that the highest point in DC usually is more comparable to the NW suburbs in terms of snowfall and how quickly it accumlates. Elevation makes a huge difference. I think the storm on Tuesday night is a good example. We had five inches here in upper NW like Rockville but down near the mall five miles away they only had 3 inches. We have about two inches now. I think upper NW DC snow amounts are also similar to Bethesda rather than the rest of DC

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

For those that care, Reagan National is up past an inch. 4-5" in Central, Va. already: http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=LWX&product=PNS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0&highlight=off

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

@CWG

The Weather Channel website says the storm is going to become rain in the DC area around 8PM. What's that about? I thought we were supposed to be getting into the heavy snow then?

Posted by: DrewinAlexandria | February 5, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Weird...almost looks like it turned back to sleet here in SW DC... but there is light cover on the ground (not on streets really).

Posted by: SWester | February 5, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Starting to stick on the streets in Dupont!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vxsarin/4332720619/

Posted by: PaulFrederiksen | February 5, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Upper NW DC snow totals are often significantly higher than downtown, and more similar to Bethesda, Md. If you drive down Mass Ave. after a storm, the difference is noticeable as you go from AU to DuPont Circle...snow really starts to drop off past the Naval Observatory/British Embassy.

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances we could see "Thundersnow" tonight? I know back in 2003 we had it with that system. How could this affect our otals if this occurs? Thanks in advance!

Posted by: jcmcgrath1969 | February 5, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it says freezing rain for Fairfax at 10, which is definitely a departure from before even if its not true.

Posted by: rocotten | February 5, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

@DrewinAlexandria

Weather.com is wrong. That's the problem with sites that are automated, they can give you glitchy data.

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

We're still slightly above freezing in Georgetown at the moment. I still hear water dripping in the downspouts. As I recall, CWG posts mentioned evening rush hour as the time when we'd dip below freezing.

Posted by: fleeciewool | February 5, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

2.5" so far in South Springfield, 32 degrees

Posted by: cmspsu13 | February 5, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Thundersnow is not too likely with this storm. Rain forecasts seem erroneous. And the accuweather guy is crazy!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Looks like a nice little battle currently setting up between a little dry air off to our southwest and deep moisture to our south. This is starting to get interesting.

Posted by: GD1975 | February 5, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

@Jason-CWG

Ah, gotcha. Kinda thought it had to be something along those lines. Thanks.

Posted by: DrewinAlexandria | February 5, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Fairfax City/GMU - Snow is now sticking to the neighborhood roads and the cut-throughs (to a slightly lesser extent). I'm already concerned about those power lines...the snow is sticking to them like glue.

Posted by: figgy_va | February 5, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah...CWG...even in Reston, VA they're now calling for rain after 10pm (when I thought the heavy snow would be around) for a while....on weather.com AND NWS...I'm starting to think our forecast could significantly change soon...what's the dilly?

Posted by: parksndc | February 5, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

EVERYONE IS WRONG except the Washington Post guys.

So what else is new?

Posted by: ooyah32 | February 5, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Interesting factoid:

The moisture source for the storm can be traced back beyond the Gulf of Mexico to the eastern Pacific near the equator with, possibly, a cross hemispheric influence. I don't recall seeing anything like that since the March 1993 "Superstorm"

Posted by: SteveT-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

You just lost whatever credibility you had.

Posted by: ooyah32 | February 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Steady snow with a couple inches accumulation here in NW DC (Columbia Heights/Petworth border). We've seen no sign of it turning back to sleet; in fact, the air seems to have cooled recently and it's piling up fast now.

Posted by: IanCam | February 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Check on glitchy data...i'll stick with the gang, yo.

Posted by: parksndc | February 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Where, exactly, is the measuring point located that's described as Bailey's Crossroads? It's listed as being in Arlington County, but Bailey's is in Fairfax County (from a zip code perspective, anyway).

Posted by: MosesCleaveland | February 5, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Snow and wind starting to pick up in Loudoun along Rt 50 corridor. Snow is sticking, wind is swirling.

Posted by: AndreaMeyers1 | February 5, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Where is NWS calling for rain in Fairfax and Arlington? The point forecasts don't show any rain.

Posted by: Murre | February 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Powerlines are very much a concern with this much heavy, wet snow sticking to them. And increasing breezes tomorrow. Not a good combination.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

@CWG -- What's the nature of the weather.com glitch? Temperature readings?

Posted by: BobLHead | February 5, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Steve T--

I looked at the 93 sat image yesterday, too, and I couldn't see all the way down to the ITCZ. Do you have a link for an 93 image that does? But this is surely one heckuva cyclone.

Do a 12 hour hemispheric loop for a remarkable treat.

Posted by: pmichaels1 | February 5, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Uhm... How high are the winds suppose to get... How long will the snow be so wet.. Its already (quickly) building up on the trees.. If we get much wing, there will be widespread power outages in my opinion... Are we prepared for that?? Is the wind now suppose to be stronger than earlier day??

Posted by: realclear | February 5, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

People need to stop saying thing that are not true and let the guys here at CWG give the forecasts and updates. We should just be looking out the window and providing our local observations. I see heavy snow here in upper NW DC with 2-3 inches. I do not think this storm will disappont anyone in the area and will at least live up to our December storm if nothing else.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

These folks saying there's going to be a changeover to rain - that has to be an error on the weather.com web site. No rain. Temps are dropping. Look at the latest update from the National Weather Service. If weather.com said it was going to rain gold coins, would you quit your job?

Posted by: fleeciewool | February 5, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Reston, VA 3" of wet snow but now caking everywhere and wind is starting to pick up...

Posted by: parksndc | February 5, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

2" here on my snow-measuring table.
.25", maybe, maybe, in certain places, on my driveway.

CWG, great job, as usual keeping us up-to-date and thanks for providing this forum. can't wait for the "heaviest snowfall rates you ever see around here."

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 5, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Tell me why the same plow already went up-and-down my street twice here in Reston, but before the snow even really began sticking. Now that the road is covered, there's no plow in sight, lol. The plows always attack my street with organized ferocity, and I often wonder if it has anything to do with the doctor who lives next door, or the federal government employees who make up much of the residences here.

Posted by: TheAnalyst | February 5, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

As of 5:00, I measured 3 inches of snow on my deck - I live a mile and a half west of the town of Vienna. The ground temperature has to have dropped to at least 32 degrees as the snow is now sticking to roadways.

Posted by: MillPond2 | February 5, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what everyone's talking about as far as rain...it's snowing quite steadily in fairfax with visibility slowly lessening and its sticking to the main roads...i hope all the naysayers including FIREDUDE come back tomorrow and say how wrong they were

Posted by: snowedin85 | February 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

5.5 inches here in C-Ville, measuring is difficult because students have rolled snowmen parts over the nice open grassy areas

Posted by: cleombrota | February 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

about 5 inches according to my 40" measuring stick on a used to be bare point in my leesburg yard


so 5" a little south of leesburg

Posted by: mandarb77 | February 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

There looks to be a very intense band of snow coming up from Fredericksburg now. Get ready friends!

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for all these snow reports. keep them coming!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Just north of Del Ray - lots of snow coming down, but not much sticking. Streets & sidewalks are mostly still just wet with a few slushy parts. :(

Posted by: esmith22015 | February 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Also, best guess on when there might be 8 inches on the ground, thereby leading to Metro closure of above ground stations? If the heavy stuff hits after 7:00, and if accumulations are 2 inches to start plus a max of 2-3 inches per hour after that, then we shouldn't see 8 inches before at least 9:00 and probably 10:00. Right?

Posted by: BobLHead | February 5, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

2 inches of wet and heavy snow outside in McLean now. Going to have to shovel quite often or I may not be able to lift it tomorrow morning if it stays this wet.

Posted by: HokieTerp | February 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Caps game + 8 inches or snow= a lot of fun after the game for metro riders...

Posted by: jrodfoo | February 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Probably my favorite snow movie: Edward Scissorhands.

Posted by: populationtrends | February 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

5" here in madison the rds have been coverd all day. snow sticking to everything

Posted by: deveinmadisonva | February 5, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Why to you, people of D.C., become so hysterical when the white rain falls down?
It´s only going to last for a few days,
even hours. You empty the shops like it´s Armageddeon?

Posted by: ingunna | February 5, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

18z GFS gave some of the area close to 10" of snow Tuesday night.

Posted by: Dylan0513 | February 5, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY seems to have dropped below freezing right along the river in the Tantallon section of Ft Washington. We have about an inch or so on elevated objects and the light, steady snow is sticking to rooftops and pavement.

Posted by: ftwash | February 5, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

uhhhhhh, CWG...that Rain/Snow line is RAPIDLY moving north!

Posted by: parksndc | February 5, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

CWG- I have a question. At this point what can go wrong with forecasts as far as DC staying on track for the snow estimates. What are the models saying and is everything playing out as forecasted. Do you see any indications of dry slots or mixing or this storm moving out faster. I was hoping that the storm that bombed out over North Atlantic and stalled out there, which was our storm from Tuesday night, would help keep our storm from moving out so fast.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Here in Columbia, we measured a bit over 2" at 5 pm. The NWS is predicting we will get 15-21" tonight in Columbia. My husband plans to get up in the middle of the night to use the snow blower on our VERY LONG driveway. Otherwise, it may be too deep to use the snow blower in the morning.

Posted by: beach57 | February 5, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

10 miles west of Richmond - there is no precipitation falling now and 33 degrees.

Posted by: richmondreader | February 5, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

at about 5.15 we dropped below freezing here in east baltimore, and the snow IMMEDIATELY started laying on my brick lined street. now it's completely covered. this stuff is coming down fast and steady!

Posted by: bachaney | February 5, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

2.5" on my drive way in Forest Glen

Posted by: OMGPonies | February 5, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Still looking sleet-ish in SW DC, and it's pretty light.

Not much accumulation to speak of, and roads are pretty clear... My temp gauge reads 34.

Posted by: SWester2010 | February 5, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

SteveT-CapitalWeatherGang posted earlier about the moisture for this system streaming from the tropical pacific.

Take a look at the TMI satellite image from this morning showing the connection:

http://www.ssmi.com/tmi/tmi_image_view.html?&time=day&year=2010&month=2&day=5&pass=a&product=vapor

The red moist zone flows all the way back to central Pacific!

Posted by: RandC | February 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I am on one of the last flights out of DCA, layover in Atlanta and then off to VEGAS. Flight was supposed to leave at 2:59 but ended up sitting on the Tarmac for an hour and a half while they deiced our plane twice. Looking out the window I could see it rapidly deteriorating outside, with slush forming on the runway. But, we finally got the green light and I'm now on the flight, above this incredible storm looking down, yet reading about it on the ground in real time. Amazing

Posted by: SteveinAtown | February 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Just looked outside-it's actually raining now! (downtown Warrenton)

Posted by: jms8 | February 5, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

If I lose power for three days, can I be "disappointed" in this storm?

Posted by: BDVienna | February 5, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Can you out-forecast us? Take the "Top the Pros" guessing poll...

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

3.5" in the Blue Ridge Mtns in eastern Warren County. 26.1 currently, hi today was 30.9F.

Posted by: spgass1 | February 5, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

CWG- when do we expect the Coastal Low to become dominant (ie heavy snow bands coming in from the atlantic). Right now it looks pretty disorganized.... remember the Dec 17 storm almost looked like a hurricane off cape hatteras as it moved north.

Posted by: markinva2 | February 5, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

***THE VERY FIRST DAILY GREG REPORT FOR THIS STORM - EVEN OBAMA GOT INTO THE ACT***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbP4102Qkrk

Posted by: stinkerflat1 | February 5, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Downtown it's now ... ummm ... dark!

Posted by: BobLHead | February 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

ajmupitt: You pretty much hit on the factors that *could* go wrong with the forecast at this point, namely any mixing or dry air moving in at mid levels that would shut down heavy snow earlier than expected. But even then, we'd still receive a solid 18 inches or so. At this point, we do not see convincing signs of either of those complicating factors playing a big role in DC. If that changes, the forecast will be updated as soon as we can.

Posted by: Andrew-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Steve in Atown -- great story.

Dulles managed to sneak one plane out at 4:34. That's the last one since 4:10.

Posted by: BDVienna | February 5, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

If this snow accumulated like the last snow, after falling this long, we should have 6 inches, not 3 or so. Still very wet outside which seems to be cutting down our totals. Are the temps trending higher than predicted?

Posted by: rocotten | February 5, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

my side road is covered in northern alex. haven't ventured outside, but from the window it looks like about 2 inches.

The grocery stores were mobbed due to their own 'perfect storm' of incoming snow and super bowl food buying. This weekend every year the news shows footage of packed grocery stores and empty snack shelves. This year they are also getting the milk and rock salt shots to show as well.

Posted by: AnneinSand | February 5, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather see the snow count go down than lose power for multiple days. Have people forgotten what that's like? It officially stops being fun at that point.

Posted by: Tess89 | February 5, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

kridgely-- thanks for the link to the Accuweather.com crazy guy! Now THAT's a weatherman.

Posted by: h0db | February 5, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

for everyone asking if the storm is going to bust and if the temps are too high, a staff member from CWG comments about once every 10 minutes. They would mention if the storm isnt going as planned

Posted by: samdman95 | February 5, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Don't like to nitpick but D.C.'s highest land elevation is 410 ft above sea level. Top of Wash Cathedral is the highest point in the city, but I don't know the height. State, DC elevations at http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001792.html

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 5, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

samdman95 is right - thanks - and yes, if we were going to modify our main forecast, we would update you!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

31 F in Georgetown now. JerryFloyd, the land elevation you're referring to is Ft. Reno park in Tenleytown. The top of the central bell tower of the cathedral is about 650 feet above sea level.

Posted by: fleeciewool | February 5, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

These elevation tidbits are great DC trivia!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Less than 2" in Oakton. I think far more accumulation would have been necessary at this point to truly shoot for a "historic" total (if that means #1 or #2). It seems it stayed above freezing for too long. Not that 16-18" will be any picnic to clear, but it ain't 30".

Posted by: DellC | February 5, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

What's with the blizzard. It is raining in Vienna. It has been snowing all day but it has been a wet snow that turned to slush on the streets. We have accumulated less than three inches. Maybe it will accumulate more overnight, but right now it is a big wet disappointment.

Posted by: GaryMoore20 | February 5, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Getting very slippery out there as the temps drop, a layer of slush under snow. Be careful.

Posted by: Ann-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Snow has been very light in NE DC for the past couple hours, and very little has accumulated during that time.

Blizzard-like whiteout conditions were reported at BWI. The last I heard, the TSA was shutting down screening operations there, but Airtran is still hoping to get another plane out around 9 PM. The Super Bowl travelers to Miami have complicated things a bit for the airlines...)

Posted by: stuckman | February 5, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Andrew-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Having just shoveled, I would suggest getting out there NOW. There is a nice layer of slush under the snow. If you don't get to it now, it is going to kill your back later.

If we stay below freezing this weekend, the roads will be miserable through Monday.

Posted by: keithrjackson | February 5, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

The NWS has issued DC a Blizzard Warning. That is cool! You can't have a great snowstrom without the Blizzard Warning.

http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=DCZ001&warncounty=DCC001&firewxzone=DCZ001&local_place1=3+Miles+S+Chevy+Chase+MD&product1=Blizzard+Warning

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

@Fleeciewool, thanks for the Wash Cathedral height. That's about 100' higher than the monument.

Re: NWS blizzard warning: let's see if really happens this time!

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 5, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Added note that the blizzard warning has been extended west into DC.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Sue Palka just mentioned an expansion of the blizzard warning into DC.

Posted by: spgass1 | February 5, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

@Andrew 5:55 pm, noooooooo!

Posted by: Murre | February 5, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

What's with the blizzard. It is raining in Vienna. It has been snowing all day but it has been a wet snow that turned to slush on the streets. We have accumulated less than three inches. Maybe it will accumulate more overnight, but right now it is a big wet disappointment.

Posted by: GaryMoore20 | February 5, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Okay, blizzard warning up for the District proper. That ought to put to rest this ludicrous debate about the "possibility" of a changeover to rain or sleet.

Posted by: fleeciewool | February 5, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Not that I think that the nay-sayers will care, but I have to reiterate what samdman95 said...CWG is a group of professionals. If the forecast was changing that drastically, they would let us know. I don't know where in Vienna rain is falling, but I'm in Oakton, approximately 2 miles from Vienna, and it's definitely snowing outside. CWG has told us several times that the big accumulations will start later this evening and all night tonight. If we don't see them by morning, then feel free to call it like you see it. Otherwise, let's try to enjoy the ride.

Posted by: paige_va | February 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

@rocotten that's exactly right. Last week's storm fell at a ratio of 20:1 (snow to liquid precipitation). All this week CWG has been pushing for 10:1 ratios. So about half as much is exactly what they would predict.

Some forecasters, like Footsforecast.org said that for this storm 15:1 ratios would even be possible.

As the temperature falls the ratios will go up. We won't hit 20:1, we might not even hit 15:1, but if we just stay at 10:1 - with nearly 2.5" (or more) liquid projected, we could fall right in line with CWGs projections.

I'm more concerned about radar readings and whatever underlying data is causing the NWS and Weather.com systems to forecast more rain than snow.

I was looking forward to a record-breaking blizzard. I just took a nap and I made peace with the fact that even if its a bust (12" or less) - that's ok.

Life goes on.

Posted by: Vingold | February 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I take it back -- a private plane registered to Geico just landed at Dulles.

Another plane just left for Copenhagen.

Posted by: BDVienna | February 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Husband just brought the trash can onto the porch for ease of use. It looks dorky, but hey.
Here is my question: Our sump pump already is running because the ground is soaked. With the cold temps forecast for the next few days, I am hoping the snow will take a while to melt...am I right?

Posted by: DCinVA | February 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I would not be surprised to see very brief periods of mixing here and there with so much energy and temps near freezing. Howerver, this should become less likely as the storm intensifies and more cold air is brought down from North. Don't worry everyone an hour of ice is not going to cut down totals. Everyone is going to see at least 20 inches

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

DCinVA: yes, days to melt.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

It was raining(!) in Vienna at 5:45 pm. We have had very little accumulation all day - may 3-4 inches net. We went out for a walk a while ago and it was all slush. What's up?

Posted by: GaryMoore20 | February 5, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

6pm NW Spotsy. update, 3.5", 31.3 degrees. Had a nice 2 hr walk with my dog, just love walking in the snow. Picked up 1.5" during our walk. Wish my late wife could have enjoyed this, she loved it when it snowed.

Posted by: VaTechBob | February 5, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I take it back -- a private plane registered to Geico just landed at Dulles.

Another plane just left for Copenhagen.

Posted by: BDVienna | February 5, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Lightly sprinkling here in Ashburn. Radar seems to show a lot of dry air mixing in to the southwest, which I think will hold down accumulations a bit in the VA suburbs.

Posted by: uconnflyer | February 5, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Guys guys guys guys guys guys!!! Come on give it some time we'll get a huge stomorrow..I'm willing to bet it'll be bigger than the december storm just relax! big stuff doesn't come until after 7pm!

Posted by: snowedin85 | February 5, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

DCinVA: yes, days to melt.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

6:00 pm Crofton, MD - snowing steady (small flakes) sidewalks, grass, trees, cars, etc. are getting covered.

Main roads are ok and cars are moving at speed.

2" of fresh snow cover measured.

Posted by: Vingold | February 5, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

BDVienna, you are giving us plane info... do you work for FAA? :)

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

It appears that the rain/snow line is much farther north than anyone predicted earlier.

Posted by: barbnc | February 5, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Coming down quite nicely now in Fair Lakes. And it is gorgeous out there.... just gorgeous. Everything is white, trees are coated, quiet, not much wind. So pretty.

That being said, I am concerned... trees already looked stressed under what is currently VERY wet snow.

Posted by: jahutch | February 5, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

A friend of mine was just told by her employer, Starbucks, that they were all expected to be at work on time tomorrow. How freaking irresponsible is that? Retailers think their right to make a buck is more important than their employees' safety, or the safety of the professionals who might have to risk their lives to rescue them when they get into an accident.

I'm outraged.

Posted by: ereshkigal45 | February 5, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

@rocotten and Vingold,
Will you still be worried about the bust when you wake up tomorrow with heavy snow/wind and a foot of snow? Relax, everything thing is going exactly as planned.

Posted by: GD1975 | February 5, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

In-Laws wanted to get outta dodge and drove this morning from Jersey and are en route to South Carolina. They said they are in NC now, and even though it's raining down there, they say they have never seen such pooling of water in the area. All turning to snow and headed our way...

Posted by: Fab5Mama | February 5, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Guys guys guys guys guys guys!!! Come on give it some time we'll get a huge stomorrow..I'm willing to bet it'll be bigger than the december storm just relax! big stuff doesn't come until after 7pm!

Posted by: snowedin85 | February 5, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Rain?? It's definitely snowing in Herndon/Chantilly. I was just outside with the kids 10 minutes ago. My 4 year old had to walk in my tracks because the snow was so high. I'd say 6 inches in the grassy areas. Some of it is leftover from Wednesday, but not much. Maybe 2 inches on the sidewalks. Wet-ish streets means the pre-treatments are working.

Posted by: veronica7 | February 5, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

It appears that rain/snow line is a lot farther north than anyone predicted. All day DC/Baltimore was projected to be solidly in the snow portion of the storm but I see that line moving pretty close to DC.

Posted by: barbnc | February 5, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

barbnc, so far the mixing line is staying where we thought it would to around the Fredericksburg area. Even with the mix, areas south and east of DC will still receive immense amounts of snow.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Just cleared about three inches of slushy snow off the steps. I'm in between Fairfax Circle and the Vienna Metro station, and it's about 35F at my house. We had some rain or sleet briefly here but now the coat of ice on the dogwood tree is covered with snow again. I measured 21 inches on December 19 and I'll be surprised if this one tops that. Hope I'm wrong, now that I've drunk the Kool-Aid and joined the "break the record" chant. Probably jinxed you guys.

Posted by: greyK | February 5, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

A friend of mine was just told by her employer, Starbucks, that they were all expected to be at work on time tomorrow. How freaking irresponsible is that? Retailers think their right to make a buck is more important than their employees' safety, or the safety of the professionals who might have to risk their lives to rescue them when they get into an accident.

I'm outraged.

Posted by: ereshkigal45 | February 5, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

roads in N. Arlington getting bad. just saw a suv slide off washington blvd and go over the fence of the people who live behind me. everyone was okay but don't let the little accumulation fool you- there is now a sheet of ice under the 1-2" of snow

Posted by: kgc1 | February 5, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so I drove around upper montgomery county (around Olney and points east), and it appears that there's about 1 1/2". The trees have a lot stuck to them, but as the temps drop, I don't think that will be an issue. It's not a very slippery snow, so I had no issues getting around.

The powder is extremely fine and will be interesting tomorrow when I have to blow it. Right now, I want the snow to come down quickly to cover the slush so we don't get too much icing.

I'm still skeptical of the 24" predictions right now, but I'll keep watch after 10 PM as suggested.

I'm fully really to go here, food stocked, full house generator, auxiliary heat sources if necessary. I grew up in stuff like this.

Bring it on.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | February 5, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Alright, bliz warnings now for DC, eastward! If verified--and a changeover is still not out of question--let's drop the cutesy storm name, and go with the real thing: The Blizzard of 2010.

Posted by: mtpeaks | February 5, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Heavy snow with over 3 inches measured in Upper NW DC.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

At the corner of Bel Pre and Layhill (Aspen Hill-ish), both streets are now accumulating snow. These are both semi-major streets and I think they have been treated but it isn't working any more (streets were clear until about 4-5 pm). It look like 2-3 inches on my deck. My SO and I have a bet on when the power goes out. No big trees in our immediate surrounding so if the power goes out it will probably be for a several square mile area.
They are predicting thunder snow! That is awesome!

Posted by: mrspeel25 | February 5, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Regarding those who are disappointed thus far - I think you should go back and read the comments on this site from the storm last march.

All night long as it took a while for the coastal low to crank up all you heard was

bust

bust

bust

bust

CWG officially backed off their original forecast a bit, but individual members of CWG kept posting here, saying they (yet) werent concerned the original forecast would verify

That next AM, all the naysayers were eating crow as the coastal low dumped heavy heavy snow in a matter of hours and the original forecast verified.

Not saying the same thing will happen, but just keep that in mind. In fact, if CWG would go and post it again, its quite entertaining to read the overnight comments.

Posted by: SJ43560 | February 5, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I am just going by the time lapse on your website and at 18:01 the pink is all the way up to the PWC/Fairfax border.

Posted by: barbnc | February 5, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

3.75" at 6:15 on the Snow Collection Platform of Science in Dunn Loring (near Tysons, 22027)

Posted by: kedzie | February 5, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

@Camden-CWG

You can track in real time what's going on at Dulles from http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KIAD. As of now, actually... nothing! There is only a flight en route from Boston to Greensboro flying over DC (if it's still in the frame hold your mouse over the plane symbol to get its info.

Posted by: MikeinDC2 | February 5, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Everyone stay safe, even if you don't "believe" the forecast, I believe you are seeing now conditions wary of caution.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

don't base all your judgement on that radar in terms of snow/sleet/mix. cville is completely in the pink, yet we're still all snow

Posted by: danuva | February 5, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so I drove around upper montgomery county (around Olney and points east), and it appears that there's about 1 1/2". The trees have a lot stuck to them, but as the temps drop, I don't think that will be an issue. It's not a very slippery snow, so I had no issues getting around.

The powder is extremely fine and will be interesting tomorrow when I have to blow it. Right now, I want the snow to come down quickly to cover the slush so we don't get too much icing.

I'm still skeptical of the 24" predictions right now, but I'll keep watch after 10 PM as suggested.

I'm fully really to go here, food stocked, full house generator, auxiliary heat sources if necessary. I grew up in stuff like this.

Bring it on.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | February 5, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Enjoy the snow. Wish I could be there.

Be safe. If in doubt, don't.

Mr. Q.

Posted by: Mr_Q | February 5, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

@Camden-CapitalWeatherGang - you can get that kind of info at www.flightaware.com

Posted by: RandC | February 5, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

thanks MikeinDC2 - very neat

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

@Camden-CWG

Oops! You need to manually enter the IAD code, actually KIAD, with the extra "K" in the "airport code" box. The "KIAD" in the link I gave is not enough.

Posted by: MikeinDC2 | February 5, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Radar indicated rain/snow lines are often well off. There is no need for so much concern .. between now and about 10 was modeled as the "warmest" part of the storm and it doesnt really look like much.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Good news: a plow just came on my street to try to keep up. Bad news: he put a 4 foot pile of snow across the sidewalk in front of my house and buried the fire hydrant. With southbridgedad out of commission on crutches (broken ankle due to black ice this week), guess who's going outside after dinner to shovel? Yep, that would be me. Will measure when I'm out there and have someone come upstairs and report back to y'all.

It's gonna be a long weekend...

Posted by: southbridgemom | February 5, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

@kedzie

I find the Snow Collection Platform of Science to be quite amusing, and thanks for the updates. Here on the mean streets of Reston, I don't have such gadgetry.

Instead, I am watching the light pole in my yard. The December storm basically broke it - dislodged it from being mounted properly in the ground. So it's listing. At this point, it's a 5-degree list to the left (and menacing my car, I might add). I expect it to end up on the ground, probably as a function of the snow accumulation....

Posted by: EricCarr | February 5, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Mix of occasional sleet, sure. But rain? Wow. Sorry to hear that, Vienna - guess you drew the short stick. Nothing but snow at my place in Centreville. The snow is fine, and coming down at a good pace. Wind is picking up. Still some melt coming off the roof. I dread the icicles that I get with winter precip and freezing temps. Love my roof style, except in winter.

Accumulation is really starting now also.

Quite a few of my neighbors aren't home yet.

Will shovel soon, I agree about getting that slushy layer up asap.

Posted by: bobosnow | February 5, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Plow hopefully can keep up during this lighter period until 10pm.. glad DC and surrounding areas have taken this seriously by sending out their fleet en masse!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

CWG guys- What's the earliest time that you think we'll be getting into the real heavy snow? I want to take pictures of the heavy stuff, but don't want to get to bed too late.

Posted by: Dylan0513 | February 5, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

@Camden-CapitalWeatherGang - you can get that kind of info at www.flightaware.com

Posted by: RandC | February 5, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Plows hopefully can keep up during this lighter period until 10pm.. glad DC and surrounding areas have taken this seriously by sending out their fleets en masse!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Alright, bliz warnings now for DC, eastward! If verified--and a changeover is still not out of question--let's drop the cutesy storm name, and go with the real thing: The Blizzard of 2010.

Posted by: mtpeaks | February 5, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Dylan0513, how about 10pm. Get to bed by midnight if you wish, but I think you'll see some picture-worthy snow! :)

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

i remember for the december storm, accuweather was saying 14.1 inches. they say 24.4 tonight. I must savor this storm as it will likely be the biggest in a Looooooong time.

Posted by: samdman95 | February 5, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Folks-- please be aware that 1) The radar snow/mix line on radar is not necessarily a reflection of reality. It is snowing in Fredericksburg, Va. whereas the radar is indicating mix. 2) In our snow totals and accumulation timeline, we anticipated the possibility of some mixing from DC S &E. 3) All observations in the DC metro region are snow right now. The closest sleet we can find is in Charlottesville. 4) The window for possible sleet in DC S & E is relatively short and should be a non-issue after midnight or so.

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Dylan0513, there is a quite intense band working up toward the city right now. I would expect the next hour or two to be pretty good rates if not the best all not.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Lighter, less-moist snow than before here in N. Arlington / Westover. Little bit of a breeze picking up and just a couple inches on the car roofs.

Posted by: LouLewis | February 5, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Ombudsman1, you must be from Siberia.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | February 5, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Lighter, less-moist snow than before here in N. Arlington / Westover. Little bit of a breeze picking up and just a couple inches on the car roofs.

Posted by: LouLewis | February 5, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

CWG- Do you have a link from either NWS or HPC where I can track the movement of the storm and low pressure as it goes up coast.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

RE Jason's 6:30 comment RE radar: Some radars are showing rain in Crisfield right now. 'Taint so, it's snowing here, with almost an inch on the streets now.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | February 5, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

@kedzie

I find the Snow Collection Platform of Science to be quite amusing, and thanks for the updates. Here on the mean streets of Reston, I don't have such gadgetry.

Instead, I am watching the light pole in my yard. The December storm basically broke it - dislodged it from being mounted properly in the ground. So it's listing. At this point, it's a 5-degree list to the left (and menacing my car, I might add). I expect it to end up on the ground, probably as a function of the snow accumulation....

Posted by: EricCarr | February 5, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I take it back -- a private plane registered to Geico just landed at Dulles.

Another plane just left for Copenhagen.

Posted by: BDVienna | February 5, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Mother Nature can suck my gas powered snow blowing balls! How do you like THEM apples, three feet of snow? Ruhruhruh!

Posted by: yetanotherpassword | February 5, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

conditions deteriorating in fairfax city! snow starting to blow snow sideways with few people out on the street!

Posted by: snowedin85 | February 5, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

The snow changed from fluffy flakes to fine stuff about an hour ago here in Columbia. It's not accumulating as quickly. We have about 3 inches on the ground. The temperature is 30 degrees.

Posted by: beach57 | February 5, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Ok, this is probably an ignorant question, but I don't know the answer, so I'm going to ask:

Re: power outages

I get that the heavy, wet snow and strong winds could bring down lines and disrupt power, but here's my question:

I live in an area where the buildings are newly constructed, and I believe my power lines are underground (don't see any, so I figured..)- however, a few blocks down are historic areas with above ground lines...if they go down, do I go down? How would I know if I am on the same grid? Geographically we are basically the same neighborhood..
I realize this is a weather site, but anyone know?

Posted by: Snowlover2 | February 5, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

CWG, as the snow piles up, please remind people who live near fire hydrants to remove the snow around them. They do get buried (c.f, 1979, 1996).

Also, re: Feb. snow records, thanks to p. 71 of Kevin Ambrose's "Blizzards and Snowstorms of Washington, D.C." book:

Feb 1899: 35.2 in.
Feb 1979: 30.6 in.

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 5, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Snow - SO HEAVY - on Massachusetts Ave and 14th NW. About 2 inches of fresh on the roads, more on the grass.

Posted by: 300_sq_ft | February 5, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

A word to the wise - as they like to say on Accuweather - "If you want to see the heaviest snow, you have to be able to smell the rain." Sniff sniff.

Posted by: manatt | February 5, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Oops -- double-posted due to timeout issue.

And Camden -- it's FlightAware, as others have suggested! No FAA here. FlightAware is a strangely addicting site. I was tracking my wife's flights this morning (she made it -- phew!) and I'm now checking occasionally out of curiosity.

Posted by: BDVienna | February 5, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

It is really coming down here in the City of Manassas. Some of the flakes are very fine, that makes it appear there is some mix as well, but it's hard to say for sure given how fine the flakes are.

The wind is starting to pick up as well.

Posted by: irish031 | February 5, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Snowlover2,

We live in an area of Columbia where power lines are underground. However, a few blocks from our house, the lines are above ground. We usually lose power several times a year. This is because our underground lines feed off of the above-ground lines. It don't know how you can tell if you are on the same power grid unless the electricity actually goes off. I'm praying we don't lose power this time.

Posted by: beach57 | February 5, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Feeling a bit lazy (don't feel like googling)...what are some great websites for satellite views of this storm and other weather patterns around the globe. The more "real" looking the better. There was a post earlier today with a link that showed a system off in the Atlantic. Trying to explain this to a 4 yr old that can't get enough.

"Weather scientists ROCK!"

Cooked out on the deck and there was a good amt of heavy wet snow (we are in Old Town Alex)...looking for his ruler. Next time will remember...bread, TP, milk and ruler!

Posted by: motherrunner | February 5, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

When are you guys going to admit that you blew it big time and this "snowmadeggon" is a complete dud? Nothing is happening in DC

Posted by: dtaylorcftc | February 5, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Greenbriar area of Fairfax. All roads are covered. Any slight hill is barely navigable. Visibility? What visibility? Snow's clinging to street signs so it's hard to tell where you are w/o GPS. Driving down ffx county pkway, I couldn't tell what was road and what wasn't. If you go out for a walk, please stay far away from the road...witnessed a near tragedy from a car skidding onto the sidewalk. Luckily, the person and dog moved fast enough. I'm going home and breaking out the vodka. Good luck all...can't wait to play tomorrow!!!

Posted by: massexile | February 5, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Oops -- double-posted due to timeout issue.

And Camden -- it's FlightAware, as others have suggested! No FAA here. FlightAware is a strangely addicting site. I was tracking my wife's flights this morning (she made it -- phew!) and I'm now checking occasionally out of curiosity.

Posted by: BDVienna | February 5, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Moderate snow in South Springfield, 4.5" so far.

Posted by: cmspsu13 | February 5, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Snowlover2 - if you had power throughout Hurricane Isabel, you should be good.

Posted by: fleeciewool | February 5, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

When are you guys going to admit that you blew it big time and this "snowmadeggon" is a complete dud? Nothing is happening in DC. You predicted massive snow by sunset, which has come and gone, and there is barely a tiny film of snow on the roads.

Posted by: dtaylorcftc | February 5, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

7:00 PM- 3.5 inches in southeastern Prince William. 100% snow here so far, despite being in the dreaded "pink" on the TWC map.

Posted by: fall_line | February 5, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

This wind-driven stuff is quite mesmerizing/disorienting if you stare at it long enough... and I'm just sitting at home looking out my window. Glad I'm not driving in it.

Posted by: snowpro | February 5, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Better not be thundersnow haaaa. Nice banding around Ffxcounty. Going to be amazing to watch.

Posted by: jmc732msstate | February 5, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Centreville VA Heavy snow. Just in from the first shoveling session & those tips about getting started early & often are good ones. Measured 2 inches of very wet slushy snow on the pavement & 3.5 inches on top of the car. That was an hour ago and it has put down another inch since then.
32 degrees. Being just at the freeze point makes pavement glazed under fresh snow super slippery.
It's a glorious night for snowlovers.

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 5, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Just walked to the liquor store to buy some scotch, only to discover the stores closed at 5. Silly me. I did pick up some more beer though. Snow is coming down at a good clip in Germantown. Very few people on the roads.

Posted by: PoorTeacher | February 5, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying I think its going to be a "bust". I'm just exercising some healthy skepticism in regards to it breaking records (which is what I really want).

As an update for Crofton MD - I just spent 20 minutes shoveling my walk and the areas in and around my cars and my neighbor's cars.

The snow is falling at about 1" per hour.

Posted by: Vingold | February 5, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the answer, beach57! I have lived in this condo two years, and so far have not lost power- but I have no idea if the homes with the above ground lines lost power either...

Due to proximity, I could see the chances are high we are on the same system.

Well, fingers crossed!

Posted by: Snowlover2 | February 5, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Centreville VA Heavy snow. Just in from the first shoveling session & those tips about getting started early & often are good ones. Measured 2 inches of very wet slushy snow on the pavement & 3.5 inches on top of the car. That was an hour ago and it has put down another inch since then.
32 degrees. Being just at the freeze point makes pavement glazed under fresh snow super slippery.
It's a glorious night for snowlovers.

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 5, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Just walked to the liquor store to buy some scotch, only to discover the stores closed at 5. Silly me. I did pick up some more beer though. Snow is coming down at a good clip in Germantown. Very few people on the roads.

Posted by: PoorTeacher | February 5, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, dtaylorcftc, they can't fool me either. This is all being done on a sound stage located in Area 51. It's being holographically projected onto the inside of the ozone layer to fool us into thinking it's really happening, but it's not. I suspect the Masons and the Bilderberger Group share responsibility...

Posted by: snowpro | February 5, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

7pm update from NW Spotsy. 4.25", 31.2 degrees.

Posted by: VaTechBob | February 5, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Pretty heavy precipitation in Charlottesville right now except it's SLEET! Are we going to get a changeover back to snow anytime soon?

Posted by: cleombrota | February 5, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

6.25" in eastern Warren Co.

Posted by: spgass1 | February 5, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm on the top (10th) floor of an Alexandria highrise.

A few minutes ago a gust of wind blew a good chunk of snow onto my balcony. It was pretty impressive- loud, white, and lasted a few minutes.

My kitty got freaked out and ran under the bed. He's still hiding.

For a second there it felt like an actual "storm" and not just a big quiet snowfall.

Will we see more of that later? Here's hoping.

Posted by: watchingweather | February 5, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

About 4 inches now in Upper NW DC with heavy snow

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing we've hit 4-5 inches in Alexandria near Eisenhower Ave Station. Seems to be picking up.

Posted by: DrewinAlexandria | February 5, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

LSAT administration cancelled.

http://news.brynmawr.edu/?p=4447

Posted by: EllenBedlington | February 5, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

New discussion from the Storm Prediction Center on heavy snow.. 1-3" rates through at least 1am.

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, dtaylorcftc, they can't fool me either. This is all being done on a sound stage located in Area 51. It's being holographically projected onto the inside of the ozone layer to fool us into thinking it's really happening, but it's not. I suspect the Masons and the Bilderberger Group share responsibility...

Posted by: snowpro | February 5, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Pretty heavy precipitation in Charlottesville right now except it's SLEET! Are we going to get a changeover back to snow anytime soon?

Posted by: cleombrota | February 5, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Snow has increased dramatically over the past hour here in Alex. A couple of inches, at the least, has fallen so far.

Posted by: letitsnow | February 5, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

dtaylorcftc - where in DC are you? I got about 3 inches of fresh now at Thomas Circle

Posted by: 300_sq_ft | February 5, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

How about a new thread?

Posted by: GD1975 | February 5, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to measure how much fresh snow has fallen here, less than a mile from northwest DC in Silver Spring, without putting on my shoes. We have roughly 3 inches already, perhaps more. Snow is falling at a moderate pace, with a slight breeze beginning to stir.

Posted by: Murre | February 5, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

They're aggressively plowing the driveway to our condo, but every time they come thru it's covered again in less than 30 minutes. N. Arlington about

Posted by: ArlingtonGay | February 5, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

How about a new thread?

Posted by: GD1975 | February 5, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

manatt

I doubt if anyone can smell rain. But, there is truth in the basic idea. That is, the closer we are to the rain/snow boundary zone - and stay on the snow side - the heavier the precipitation.

Why? The warmer the air column above, without getting so warm to have the precipitation mixed or just rain, the more moisture it can hold. The more moisture, the more precipitation. Of course the actual snow depth on the ground depends upon the snow density - larger measured snow depths with light fluffy snow than heavy wet snow.

Also the closer to the warm/cold boundary, the more likely conditions will support thunder snow. I will not be surprised to hear a few thunderclaps later tonight.

Posted by: SteveT-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

manatt

I doubt if anyone can smell rain. But, there is truth in the basic idea. That is, the closer we are to the rain/snow boundary zone - and stay on the snow side - the heavier the precipitation.

Why? The warmer the air column above, without getting so warm to have the precipitation mixed or just rain, the more moisture it can hold. The more moisture, the more precipitation. Of course the actual snow depth on the ground depends upon the snow density - larger measured snow depths with light fluffy snow than heavy wet snow.

Also the closer to the warm/cold boundary, the more likely conditions will support thunder snow. I will not be surprised to hear a few thunderclaps later tonight.

Posted by: SteveT-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else seeing duplicate posts? I'm not even drinking yet.

Posted by: mensan98th | February 5, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

The back edge is racing toward us from Missouri. ;) What a storm..

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

The back edge is racing toward us from Missouri. ;) What a storm..

Posted by: Ian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

mensam98th, we've been having some issues with the commenting section, double posts are likely related.

Posted by: Brian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I'm not sure why the above was repeated - perhaps because the first time hitting "submit" the connection timed out, so I resubmitted. The first probably made it through, however.

Posted by: SteveT-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Our lights have flickered about 3 times in the last 90 minutes here in McLean. I hope we don't lose power, especially this early in the storm.

Posted by: snoinmclean | February 5, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Just back from walking my dog at the Capitol. Gorgeous! This snow is sticking to every twig, the sides of trees, the sides of bollards and the Statue of Freedom.

Water was running in the gutter on Constitution Avenue. Streets are nearly deserted, mostly cabs and police. No one in line for a taxi at Union Station. Quite a few cars dropping peops off or picking them up.

Posted by: DagnyT | February 5, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

@ dtaylorcftc - WHAT the HECK are you talking about a bust???? Have you actually READ the forecast???? Nothing is "a bust" yet or even off...I mean...what the hell are you expecting the sky to fall down? The snow is REALLY coming down in Reston, VA and these guys have been HONEST and efficient with their forecasts the entire time.

Posted by: parksndc | February 5, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

maybe we're going crazy but i think we just saw a brief flash of lightning over in Alexandria/Fairfax County near 495 a few minutes ago. Anyone else see something or has cabin fever started to set in?

Posted by: brown3ml | February 5, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I'm not sure why the above was repeated - perhaps because the first time hitting "submit" the connection timed out, so I resubmitted. The first probably made it through, however.

Posted by: SteveT-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Just back from the first shoveling session...in Arlington/East Falls Church area. About 3-4" of very wet, heavy snow on the ground with wet snow/sleet falling. Glad I didn't wait until morning to start. Saw lightning in the clouds but didn't hear any thunder.

Posted by: AlwaysBiking | February 5, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

CWG - Would you say that stronger winds may have the benefit (to a point) of blowing off the heavy snow on power lines and trees?

Posted by: benhere | February 5, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

@fleeciewool,

We cross posted. Thanks for your reply as well. I don't know if there was power here during Hurricane Isabel, as I lived in a different neighborhood at the time- although that would have been a good indicator. This building wasn't here during Isabel.

Anyone else out there live in the Carlyle area of Alexandria know if we are attached to the above ground lines?

I'm not fretting, more curious. Although I'd hate to lose power, I am enjoying this unusual event!

Posted by: Snowlover2 | February 5, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

All you people who say it isn't snowing - stop looking at the radar and start looking out the window.

Posted by: fleeciewool | February 5, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Shout out to my wife, whose flight was cancelled from National. She was planning to join me in Florida for this weekend's Space Shuttle launch. I love snow, so I am bummed to be missing this. We just had heavy rain here in Cocoa Beach and had a tornado watch a while ago. Looks like this is the same storm you all are experiencing.

Posted by: Radz | February 5, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

CWG - Would you say that stronger winds may have the benefit (to a point) of blowing off the heavy snow on power lines and trees?

Posted by: benhere | February 5, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

where might be the bullseye?? or is heavy snow banding going to be the key factor?? is madison va still going to get 2 feet plus

Posted by: deveinmadisonva | February 5, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Still snowing heavy in upper NW DC about 4-5 inches now.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

It's been sleeting pretty heavily in Charlottesville for at least 30 minutes. Measured 1.25" of sleet/snow over past hour, bringing the city's total to just over 8" so far. Hanging on to hope that we'll get snow soon.

Posted by: cvilleSnowMan | February 5, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Shout out to my wife, whose flight was cancelled from National. She was planning to join me in Florida for this weekend's Space Shuttle launch. I love snow, so I am bummed to be missing this. We just had heavy rain here in Cocoa Beach and had a tornado watch a while ago. Looks like this is the same storm you all are experiencing.

Posted by: Radz | February 5, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I thought I saw a couple flashes of lightning, too -- Riverdale, MD.

Going out to shovel the heavy wet stuff before it gets buried.

Posted by: ChickenLady | February 5, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

THANK YOU to those who suggested it was time to go shovel. Just cleared about 3 inches of very wet snow/slush off my driveway in Howard County outside Clarksville. Snow was so wet that it felt like rain, but I know it wasn't because the driveway is covered again already.

Posted by: kathyb39 | February 5, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

@Snowlover2: I live in the Carlyle area. Checked with my building today. They seemed to think we'd be just fine with the underground grid. Apparently there were no problems with the December storm (I was out of town). The only time I've ever lost power in this part of town is for about five minutes when many, many blocks went down at the same time.

So, I think we're okay. But I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that power stays on and comcast handles the weather. I'll go nuts without the internet and tv! (Not able to check CWG?! For the love...)

Posted by: AlexandriaAnna | February 5, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

benhere, wind is sort of a catch-22, if it can blow the snow off it would be a good thing but at the same time it adds a great deal of stress to the already straining branches.

Posted by: Brian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

It appears we're doomed for sleet and the dry slot in Charlottesville. Oh well, it's still fun!

Posted by: cvilleSnowMan | February 5, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

a) On NBC Nightly News, Tom Costello mentioned this snowstorm is being referred to as Snowpocalypse and also Snowmageddon.

b) for a quite a while it was very difficult to read comments, and given the problems with cross-postings, there may have been some tech issues.

Posted by: JerryFloyd1 | February 5, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the reassurance, AlexandriaAnna! I feel better. We didn't lose power in the 12/19 storm.

Being without internet and TV would be bad. I would have serious withdrawals without CWG! Oh, the horror! I might actually have to work on a paper that's due next week....

Posted by: Snowlover2 | February 5, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

OK - shoveled 4+ inches of wet snow in Bethesda at 6:30. And 90 minutes later it looks like I've done nothing. And some a**hole just drove by in a Prius. Wish I was kidding.

Posted by: DrLRonHoover | February 5, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I thought I saw a couple flashes of lightning, too -- Riverdale, MD.

Going out to shovel the heavy wet stuff before it gets buried.

Posted by: ChickenLady | February 5, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

There's another new post up.

Posted by: Murre | February 5, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I really think the 400+ elevation up here in upper NW DC is giving us an advantage over the rest of DC. The snow started sticking to street around 3 and has been at an inch per hour for last five hours. We are starting to see the 1-2 inch per hour snow rates arrive and visibility is near a quarter mile.

Posted by: ajmupitt | February 5, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 5, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Did I read earlier in this blog about a low offshore? where is it? The 7:39PM EST surface map from TWC still shows a big "H" right off the Delmarva (the folks there could probably see the bottom of the "H": it's really big and blue)

Posted by: MikeinDC2 | February 5, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh crap, I hadn't thought about the Hurricane Isabel comparison. We lost power for just over 3 days during Isabel, and that was pretty rough. Having the temperatures be so much colder this time around would make it a hundred times worse. And with the roads so impassable after lots of snow, I'd bet Pepco would have a much tougher time getting to incidents to make repairs.

Posted by: gmbo | February 5, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Recent posts suggest snow/mix line is just south of city. If so, forecast will need revising. From my experience with DC coastal storms, once it changes over, it stays over until the storm, and its bulk of precip, has moved north.
Hope I'm wrong, but my forecast is 4-6" snow/sleet mix from DC se, with 12-18 very wet snow nw of city. Much more to the far nw.

Posted by: mtpeaks | February 5, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I doubt people are seeing lightning. You may be seeing some flashes of light from stressed power lines and other electrical issues, which is not uncommon during severe weather events. I checked the lightning tracker and I did not see any lightening withing a thousand miles from DC.

Posted by: GD1975 | February 5, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Recent posts suggest snow/mix line is just south of city. If so, forecast will need revising. From my experience with DC coastal storms, once it changes over, it stays over until the storm, and its bulk of precip, has moved north.
Hope I'm wrong, but my forecast is 4-6" snow/sleet mix from DC se, with 12-18 very wet snow nw of city. Much more to the far nw.

Posted by: mtpeaks | February 5, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

8:15 update from NW Spotsy. 5", temp 31.2.

Posted by: VaTechBob | February 5, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Just a comment...that satellite image: I used to be in charge of the generation of that image as a grad. student. Much love, CWG!

Posted by: captmrwill | February 5, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

OH MY GOD! I'M SOOOOO GLAD I'M IN VEGAS JUST NOW! GOING OUT TO THE MIRAGE TO SEE CIRQUE'S BEATLES "LOVE" SHOW-NO COAT NECESSARY!

WWILL BE TAKING THE RED-EYE BACK MONDAY AM INTO DCA-IT WILL BE OVER,AND THERE WILL BE NO DELAYS!

Posted by: Spring_Rain | February 5, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Ran home from Pure Praa yoga studio to Huntington. Got home at 8:15 - 8:20. The sidewalks were easy enough to run on since I have trail runners. Even the huge puddle of slush at the end of the Wilson Bridge/Washington Street Deck is all since snow. I do not anticipate this to be the case much longer. By 11, if not earlier, it will be tough to get by on even the most packed-in sidewalks, even on foot.

Posted by: JefffromHuntington | February 5, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Amazed at all the reports of sleet and rain. Here in Kensington, heavy, heavy snow's been falling for last several hours. No measurements, but looks like a solid 7-8 inches. Amazed also at all the nowcasters/naysayers who want to proclaim this a bust from the opening hours. I don't claim to understand all the models, but I do trust this site and so far, you've been spot on. Many thanks for the great work.

Posted by: irish64 | February 5, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Listen. Leonsis sucks. He isn't even willing to pay fair price for the Wizards and as a result the team is in limbo. Snyder is a much better owner.

Posted by: ryan9 | February 6, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Just tried to go outside here in Gaithersburg, MD to take a quick depth measurement of snow.

22+ inches, windy, and it's still snowing!!

Posted by: lockettyee | February 6, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

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