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Posted at 6:30 AM ET, 12/16/2010

Forecast: Snow likely today, unlikely Sunday

By David Streit

Total accumulation today 1-2"; more south, less north

(originally posted at 5:00 a.m., last modified at 6:30 a.m.)

Today's Daily Digit
 
A somewhat subjective rating of the
day's weather, on a scale of 0 to 10.

 

With much less wind chill today and a picturesque light snow I was ready to go higher, but then I thought about the traffic!
 
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EXPRESS FORECAST

Today: Cold with light snow likely. 27-30. | Tonight: Snow ends early, clearing and cold. 16-23. | Tomorrow: Partly sunny, still chilly. 35-39. | A Look Ahead | Get Express Forecast by E-mail

FORECAST IN DETAIL

Our first widespread snowfall of the season is nothing like the snow we had this time last year. But perhaps we'll have enough snow to make those Christmas decorations look nice. The snow today is just about a sure deal while the "potential" storm on Sunday is now unlikely. The majority of the models do not develop the storm until it is well offshore. The real hassle in this weather pattern is the unending well below normal temperatures. And snow or no snow, Sunday's ocean storm is still likely to whip up some unpleasant winds.

Snow Potential Index: 8 (↑) - Only a slight chance today's snow misses us to the south. Sunday's storm can't be ruled out but odds are less than 20% for measurable snow.

 
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Today (Thursday): Clouds thicken quickly this morning. The first flakes struggle to make it to the ground since they evaporate in the dry air. However, by late morning light snow should be underway in most areas. The snow should continue through much of the afternoon. Road crews should be able to handle such light activity but slick spots are possible as the ground is cold, particularly on untreated roads. Light winds from the southwest should not compound the problem. Highs should stay just below freezing and allow for accumulations of 1 to 2 inches in most of the area. Heavier accumulations are reserved for well to the south of the city. Confidence: Medium-High

Tonight: Snow should be wrapping up by the time darkness descends. Skies clear and the drop in temperatures is enhanced by the light snow cover. Lows fall to the mid-teens to lower 20s. Confidence: Medium-High

Keep reading for the forecast through Monday....

Tomorrow (Friday): The morning chill only slowly gives way as there are enough clouds and a wind from the northwest to keep winter on our minds. Sunshine should finally win out by afternoon and with highs shooting up to the mid-to-upper 30s a lot of Thursday's snow is likely to disappear. Confidence: Medium-High

Tomorrow Night: The wintry chill is still cause for bundling up. Clouds are expected to slowly increase overnight and with less snow on the ground readings shouldn't drop as fast. Lows are still expected to reach the low-to-mid 20s. Confidence: Medium-High

A LOOK AHEAD

Saturday should see a fair amount of clouds but dry weather is likely to prevail. The makings of a storm are just gathering in the southeastern U.S. Breezes from the northeast slowly gather steam during the day and help to offset the rising temperatures. Highs should only reach the low-to-mid 30s given the clouds and winds. There is a 20% chance of light snow overnight if the southeastern storm starts wrapping up soon enough. Lows range from mid-to-upper 20s. Confidence: Low-Medium

Sunday morning clouds are thick and there is still a 20% chance of light snow. By afternoon, the storm should be pulling away from the coast and snow chances diminish. The coastal areas could see some accumulation if the storm kicks into gear. However, this won't be anything like this same day one year ago when we clocked a new record snow of 15" at National. Winds steadily increase from the north during the day, making those low-to-mid 30s feel colder than they are. Skies should clear in the evening and overnight lows drop to the upper teens to mid-20s. Confidence: Low

Monday is partly sunny but still unseasonably cold. The readings are likely to be about 10 degrees below normal, which is getting to be a bad recurring nightmare. Winds from the northwest at 5-15 mph won't help the situation. Look for highs in the low-to-mid 30s. Confidence: Medium-High

By David Streit  | December 16, 2010; 6:30 AM ET
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Comments

The low totals will minimize headaches but be careful. Normally the ground and streets are not as cold, and you can drive ok. But when it has been really cold like it has been, look out, it sticks and is dangerous.

Posted by: jaybird926 | December 16, 2010 5:21 AM | Report abuse

Looking at that post about snowpocalypse makes me jealous of last year :(.

Posted by: samd95 | December 16, 2010 6:15 AM | Report abuse

It's absolutely ridiculous that with not one flake fallen at least 15 area counties have closed their schools for the day. This is why people make fun of this area and how it handles snow. I would say that the counties would regret this later in the school year when they run out of snow days and have to extend the school year until July, but they will just do what they did last year and get waivers. Leading our students to fall even farther behind their counterparts in the rest of the world.

And believe me, this year is stacking up to be just as bad as last year for snow, despite the claims of a mild winter coming due to "la nina" and the rare circumstances that led to so much snow last year (the Greenland block). Guess what? That "rare" Greenland block is back and it's not going anywhere. Prepare for a repeat of last winter and school systems: don't be wimps and close your schools when not one flake has fallen.

Posted by: rwalker66 | December 16, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Why you gotta be that way, David? I was all prepared for a good one Sunday, and now you dash my hopes. Shameful... Don't you know it's almost Christmas? Oh well, back to the drudgery of the real world.

Posted by: HappyArmyWife | December 16, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

rwalker66 - This is about safety, not winning some petty battle over which part of the country is tougher.

It is dangerous and irresponsible to allow school buses to be on the road today. Regular driving will be risky enough -- why endanger more lives?

Posted by: getjiggly2 | December 16, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

Getjiggly2- Have to disagree with you. This isn't about safety. The roads at this moment are perfectly safe. This is about being overly cautious. I grew up in NY and schools never closed before the storms. They would however close during the day IF conditions warranted it. It is going to be hours before the road conditions deteriorate and in many parts of the region they will likely never get to be bad. Pre-treated roads will keep things clear long after snow starts to accumulate on the ground. And the latter isn't even exptect to start until mid-morning. Kids could easily get in at least half a day, if not a full one, without the least risk to safety. An inch of snow is not the end of the world. This area overreacts to snow and has always done so. In large portions of this country kids go to school on days when significantly more snow is predicted and they make it home perfectly safely because people think rationally. Something that definitely doesn't happen in this area when it comes to snow.

Posted by: McCarthy911 | December 16, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

The school systems are really between a rock and hard place with storms that are forecast for the daytime. If they open on time, it starts snowing at 10 am and the roads are a mess at 2, they're blasted for endangering the children. If they close based on the forecast, they're blasted for being wimps. Being prudent makes more sense to me (and I say that as somebody with no kids, nor do I work for the schools.)

Posted by: RightField | December 16, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

rwalker66,
well, hooray for the greenland block! but it doesn't appear to be helping us with sunday's storm.

CWG,
i just looked at the national radar. today's storm is moving directly east and, if things continue as they are going, the sweet spot will miss us to the south. what can i, or snowlovers united, do to get the storm traveling more to the northeast?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 16, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

What's the deal with the weather channel website posting of 40% chance of snow showers on Christmas Eve? I'm too much of a novice to even know the right questions to ask, but does anyone know what they would be basing that on this early in the game, and do you see it too, CWG?

Posted by: luvhh1 | December 16, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Keep in mind that Fairfax county alone has over 170,000 students. If they close after it starts snowing it will take hours to get everyone home through the accumulating snow. I am willing to bet that the county you grew up in didnt come close to that number of bodies.

Schools have started closing in advance recently since snow forecasting has become much more accurate and there was no longer much uncertainty about if it would snow or not. We knew with plenty of warning that it WILL snow today and where and how much we would get. 10, 20, 30 etc.. years ago, we didn't know nearly this much about a storm before it hit and it was very risky to make decisions before the flakes began to fall.

Basically, schools close in advance now because they have the early knowledge to do so. That with more bodies to move makes the decision easy.

Posted by: AnneinSand | December 16, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Should it be snowing soon in the Tysons Cornere area, or is the leadind edge virga?

Posted by: snowlover | December 16, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Regarding school closings: each situation is unique, we have become more cautious, and forecasting is not easier. A storm like this would not have closed schools in advance years ago like it did today. But the main factors today are previous very cold weather and pavement so the snow will stick very well plus the fact that it is the first widespread snow. So it's not a bad call, just more cautious than we used to be.

Posted by: eric654 | December 16, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

eric654,

Great observation! I think we can add the word 'litigious' to your comments in place of 'cautious' and your point is even more valid.

Posted by: kolya02 | December 16, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

As a native southerner, I get really tired of hearing about what the schools in New York or [insert northern state] did when it snowed.

THIS IS NOT NEW YORK. This is VIRGINIA. [or DC, or MD]

Southern states realize that they lack the type of snow-moving-equipment that northern states possess. If even a small storm starts at noon in VA, officials know it will be HOURS until the roads can be made safe. If a storm starts at noon in NY, the streets will probably be A-OK within half an hour.

It's just not the same. Stop pretending it is. And until we have snow amounts like last year every year, it will stay that way.

Posted by: mmonty1205 | December 16, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

mmonty1205 you make some good points but it's interesting how our area struggles even to handle hot swampy humid weather and we get that all the time!

Posted by: kolya02 | December 16, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

koyla02 - Though I'm not really sure I recall school closings for humidity... I would just note that even the NYC schools close sometimes for snow ;)

Posted by: mmonty1205 | December 16, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

CWG- Could you possibly do a write-up on why this weekend storm will not turn up the coast, and what is needed to get this weekends storm/future storms to develop & and come up along the coast?

Posted by: pseaby | December 16, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

walter-in-fallschurch,

Snowlovers United...very cool...should be a t-shirt.


luvhh1,

I saw that 40% chance to on Christmas Eve...


mmonty1205,

I hear ya! Ever since I moved to the east coast all I ever hear is people comparing all the other cities in the megalopolis to New York City. Well, in New York you never have to wait more than 6 minutes in the subway for a train. Heck, with 8 million people it needs to come in 6 minutes!

Posted by: Rcmorgan | December 16, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Our traffic is horrible on the best of days - weekends included.

One car doing a tire change on the side of the road backs up traffic for miles - throw anxious parents and salt crews into the mix at 1 pm and that's a recipe for disaster.

. . . everything doesn't have to be about testosterone. Monkeys have that - we're supposed to be a little smarter.

. . . but then the Humpback Bridge mashes that notion like a bug on a windshield on a warm summer night . . .

Posted by: palmtree2001 | December 16, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

this:

"with not one flake fallen at least 15 area counties have closed their schools for the day"

is why America is falling way behind other countries. They closed the Federal government for a week last year claiming it was unsafe and no transportation for employees but the lines were three dozen deep at Blockbuster.

We are weak and lazy. I teach music and had a student cancel his lesson because of a potential two inches and it had not even snowed yet. I also managed a store and an employee wanted to leave early because it "might" snow.

In the schools defense, with so many punk parents who will sue the school if the bus slips and their brat scratches themselves, they have to be ridiculously cautious.

Posted by: jackson641 | December 16, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure either why everyone insists on comparing the DC/Metro area to NY State / NYC & other northern areas. NYC has a great public transporation system, something lacking in DC/Metro! When systems close early in NoVa/DC/MD, you have tens of thousands hitting the roads to try and get to their kids - and others who just panic - this snarls the efforts of the road crews to maintain safe highways. I doubt in areas such as Rochester and Buffalo there are so many people to deal with.

Posted by: hysteria_625 | December 16, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

@luvhh
there are some models that do show another snow chance on Christmas Eve, 40% is pretty high so far out but i could give it a 25% chance.

Posted by: davidstreit1 | December 16, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

@snowlover

As I mentioned in our forecast, the air is dry, so this leading edge of moisture will be evaporating before it hits the ground. Most areas should not see flakes until between 10 and noon.

Posted by: davidstreit1 | December 16, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

@walter-in-fallschurch

We've said all along we're not in the sweet spot for this storm but on the northern edge. The significant accumulations of more than an inch or two will be south.

@snowlover

We should start to see snow in immediate metro area by 10 or 11 a.m. Snow being reported in Fredericksburg and Winchester.

@pseaby

Wes Junker, our winter weather expert, has posted a number of times about why the weekend storm probably was unlikely... we never gave it better than 30% odds. Here are a couple links: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2010/12/assessing_pre-christmas_snow_o.html and http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2010/12/weekend_snow_threat_down_not_o.html

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | December 16, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

@pseaby

The problem is the upper air flow is from west to east and carries the storm out to sea before it fires up. If the trough along the coast were deeper the flow would turn to go from southwest to northeast more parallel with the Coast and give it a chance to push snows back over the area.

Posted by: davidstreit1 | December 16, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

CWG, while I typically turn to your column first as I have felt you're generally more accurate (and careful) when forecasting...I noticed this morning that the weather channel, NWS, and Accuweather are all saying there's a 50/50 chance this storm forms off the coast and bombs out...more snow the further east you go. They're suggesting that we have a 50% chance of snow, however, mainly light. Seems more agressive, is it not?

Posted by: parksndc | December 16, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Would love to be there when it snows!!!!

Stay home!!

Posted by: nall92 | December 16, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Light snow and deck coated in eastern Warren County...

Posted by: spgass1 | December 16, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

@parksndc Percent chances are highly subjective so I can't judge those organizations rankings. I can say that of all the recent models, none have been developing snow over our area and even the coastal areas see only a dusting. It would be unusual for the models to trend away from a storm this close to the event and then reverse but it could happen. I think there is a 30% chance for a dusting still, but that is as good as i could see.

Posted by: davidstreit1 | December 16, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

What a contentious morning. I'll chime in to say that no matter what the schools decide, some parents will be unhappy. Some may sue, some may complain, but every time we have a winter system approaching which and the track is uncertain, we get these arguments. It's a classic work vs. family situation and is very inconvenient to many parents who have to take time off of work to pick up their kids. On the other hand, no one wants their kids hurt in an accident.

The local and state governments around here are not geared up for frequent winter weather. In areas that receive more snow than we, the residents will accept a higher tax rate to pay for the purchase, upkeep, and use of more plows and sanders. Around here, we rely on independent contractors (Landscape and construction usually) contracted out for road treatment and clearing (to avoid raising taxes). It's a cost/benefit situation. Sure all of the cities, towns, and counties could purchase more equipment and hire more people to maintain them, but then people would be griping about government wasting money on road crews that are rarely needed. So when we get these storms, we get the road maintenance we pay for. It's not perfect, and makes it hard to keep all roads treated and cleared.

This makes it harder on the school systems who have to consider all of the roads the buses travel, not just the main ones and the liability associated with a bus accident if they did not act 'appropriately'. Many times, it's only after the storm that we know if the schools should have closed, or not.

Posted by: dprats21 | December 16, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

@walter

I misread your question -- and now realize it was in jest. Maybe if we all turn on our vacuums we can suck the storm up...

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | December 16, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

First flakes have arrived in Purcellville.

Posted by: seahawkdad | December 16, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Thanks guys!

Posted by: parksndc | December 16, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

According to the Fairfax County Public School website, schools are still open.

Posted by: AlfromAlexandria | December 16, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Fairfax County schools are open... at least, I hope they are as that's where my kids are right now.

Snowing now in Herndon.

Posted by: veronica7 | December 16, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Lovely light snow in Oakton. As for the schools and such, keep in mind closing involves a whole county. Let's take Loudoun. While you have Sterling, Ashburn etc..you also have more remote areas like Neersville and Hillsboro.

I grew up dealing with snow in Ohio. Our schools almost never closed. I learned how to drive in it and deal with it. With that being said, around here, I stay off the roads in adverse weather. This area is a melting pot of people who didn't grow up with it and have no clue.

Posted by: SPS1 | December 16, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Snowing in Reston too...I don't know why schools would close...not sure I understand those comments/questions. Everyone has a different comfort level while driving in snow which is fine...but if buses are comfortable driving kids in a few inches of snow, I'm not sure what the problem is. My sister is a teach in upstate PA and she drove to work last week in a foot of snow...if the roads are clean, use them.

Posted by: parksndc | December 16, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Snowing in Herndon across from IAD. Small flakes, but a lot of them.

Let the fun begin as they say!


kim in manassas

Posted by: ksrgatorfn1 | December 16, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Coming down pretty steady here in Ashburn, sticking really fast. The parking lots are covered.

Posted by: justin-N-sterlingVa | December 16, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Good points SPS1. I grew up all over the west from the Bay Area, Montana, Seattle. Sometimes I think that the county school system should be divided into sections. Fairfax has schools as far flung as Herndon to south of Alexandria, where my kids go to school, and snow emergencies effect this area in different ways - no snow to almost a foot (see last year).

Posted by: AlfromAlexandria | December 16, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Snowing in Crystal City! Snow is snow even if it only a couple of inches!

Posted by: maestrojmk | December 16, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Flakes falling at McPherson Square!

Posted by: tricia8 | December 16, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Walter, what do snowlovers united need to do to get the (weekend) storm traveling more to the northeast?

The atmosphere will do what it will do totally independent of any model, wishful thinking, weather wizard, crystal ball reading, etc, or Joey Fearless's still calling for a snowstorm along the I-95 corridor (not withstanding disagreement with other PreciseWeather's other objective meteorologists).


Posted by: ensemblemean | December 16, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I think we get substantial snow frequently enough around here that the local governments should be able to deal with small storms. Schools should not be closing for 1-2" before it even starts.

Posted by: WickedRose | December 16, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

ffx county 2hr early dismissal

Posted by: mandarb77 | December 16, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Fairfax County in particular, and other surrounding counties, are still scarred by an event that occurred 23 years ago in November 1987. That year, a forecast of light snowfall turned into an unexpectedly heavy dump of snow. I was in 7th grade at Washington Irving in Springfield at the time.

FFX County closed schools at 1 pm. I hopped on the bus not long after, less than 10 miles from our family home in Orange Hunt. The bus did not drop me off until after 5 pm that day, and I was not the last kid dropped off. The county was crucified for not cancelling school in advance of the storm. Ever since, counties in NoVA have been incredibly over-cautious about snowfall and school.....

Posted by: eagle97 | December 16, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Just started in the Aspen Hill area of Montgomery County.

Posted by: skidge | December 16, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

@dprats21

It is a cost-benefit analysis, but I think that some of the local premises that go into that analysis are flawed. The main flawed premises is that snow is a rare event here. Storms like this one are commonplace. Six inch storms happen once almost every year, yet the southern mentality* twoards snow prevails. I don't really care. I live on a FFX County snow emergency route, so I'll always have a clean street.

*Southern mentality: "I hope it doesn't snow... What? Snow??? PANIC! COMPLAIN!"

Posted by: mason08 | December 16, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

This is MY snowlover weather. We'll get a few inches, enough to be pretty but not enough to cause serious damages, and then we'll have a warm-up that will melt it off within a few days.

Give me 4-5 such events and some relief from the bitter cold in between snows, and that will be my perfect Winter.

Sorry, Walter. :)

Posted by: mhardy1 | December 16, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Having lived in upstate NY, So. MD, and now DC, I get that this area is not as equipped to deal with snow as NY (my street was not plowed until a week after the Feb. storms last year- believe me, I get it). But cancelling a whole day of school for 1-3 inches that won’t even arrive until this afternoon is, IMO, rather ridiculous. This signals to me 1) a lack of confidence in bus drivers to navigate roads in a couple inches of snow (and if them, why not other public buses?) and 2) lack of confidence in children to walk on snow-covered sidewalks. Put some effing boots on your kids, hold their hand, and walk them to the bus stop. It’s this coddling of kids, that somehow they’re less hardy than they’re northern counterparts, that most annoys me. If they cancelled school for every time the sidewalks were a bit slippery, I never would have made it out of 6th grade.

Posted by: tiggs03 | December 16, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

yes tiggs03 ... I don't know how our country got so litigious, especially when we value personal responsibility in that pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps type of way. I think the kids grow up around this and then turn into adults who can't/won't handle any deviations from the norm, which gets you a wide range of outrageous government responses from school closings for 1-3" snow "storms" to charges of assault against fellow citizens for everyday spats.

Posted by: kolya02 | December 16, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Started snowing in the Gaithersburg Airpark about 30 mins ago.

Posted by: wadejg | December 16, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Early dismissal for a minor snowfall like this one is understandable. Closing schools for a couple of inches of snow is absurd--I don't care where you live. It's done out of knee-jerk, unthinking fear. And giving waivers to students for extra snow days? That's school system laziness, pure and simple.

Posted by: Claudius2 | December 16, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Tiggs03, I generally agree with your sentiments, but in FFX county the percentage of sidewalks is not very high. In my neighborhood we have about 10% sidewalks and my kids live 3 miles from their school.

Posted by: AlfromAlexandria | December 16, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

The only thing more sure than death and taxes in Washington is the complaining of people about school closings and the inevitable "Where I come from...."

Now I think I'll go stock up on toilet paper and milk.

Posted by: summerandwinter | December 16, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Summerandwinter: what about bread?

Posted by: AlfromAlexandria | December 16, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

for those keeping track, in Gaithersburg I saw the first flake at 9:52.

Posted by: hawknt | December 16, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Anybody care to talk about the reality of the live radar and current track of the storm vs. the model predictions? Is this little storm panning out more or less as predicted?

Kinda getting bored of the banter about whether or not schools should close etc. and would love to hear more real-time observations and input from the weather team about what's happening compared to what we thought would happen. Snowing steadily now in Columbia, we were a little late to the party this morning with the precip. It seems to me this thing is slightly north of where we thought it would be, and we're more likely to see totals on the high end of the range. Thoughts?

Posted by: curtmccormick | December 16, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Anybody care to talk about the reality of the live radar and current track of the storm vs. the model predictions? Is this little storm panning out more or less as predicted?

Kinda getting bored of the banter about whether or not schools should close etc. and would love to hear more real-time observations and input from the weather team about what's happening compared to what we thought would happen. Snowing steadily now in Columbia, we were a little late to the party this morning with the precip. It seems to me this thing is slightly north of where we thought it would be, and we're more likely to see totals on the high end of the range. Thoughts?

Posted by: curtmccormick | December 16, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

The sidewalk comment made me LOL. There's nothing wrong with making your kid walk a couple miles to school on a sidewalk...problem is, there are a lot of areas in this region where the *only* way to get to some public schools is by taking major busy streets that have intermittent or no sidewalks. If I had lived half a mile away from where I grew up, in any direction, I wouldn't have been able to walk to school--not because of distance, but because there was literally no safe place to walk.

Posted by: dkp01 | December 16, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

AlfromAlexandria,

Yes, I musn't forget the bread.

French toast for dinner on a snowy evening. Nothing better for the winter part of me.

A hot dog and a beer does it for the summer part of me.

Back to the weather:

We are just at a dusting really here at King Street and 395.

Posted by: summerandwinter | December 16, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

@curtmccormick The snow distribution and accumulations still appear to be on track. There are a few spots north of the District that could see up to an inch but that would be the exception. 2 inches still looks like the max in the city.

Posted by: davidstreit1 | December 16, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Back with a new handle that's more family-friendly. Things have really gone from bad to worse in downtown DC over the past hour. Light to moderate snow began around 10:15 and has been coming down steadily. Streets are covered.

Posted by: prickles1009 | December 16, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

*Southern mentality: "I hope it doesn't snow... What? Snow??? PANIC! COMPLAIN!"

Posted by: mason08 | December 16, 2010 10:30 AM
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that's funny, but you left out "shop". not sure if it goes before or after "what?", or if it's part of "PANIC", but "shop" needs to be in there somewhere... as if none of us have 2 days worth of food in our houses...we all feel the need to shop...
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mhardy1,
no problem i understand we all have our own agendas. glad to hear you are pleased to get a little snow.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | December 16, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

the storm is apparently shifting west.....is this going to increase our chances of any sign. snow here?

Posted by: lll1424 | December 16, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I can almost hear the next generation of poorly educated DC Area whimps talking to their neighboring Wal-Mart cashiers, "I remember when we had to walk an entire 50 feet to the curb to get picked up by the school bus in 2 inches of snow."

Posted by: localgoober | December 16, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

the storm on sunday...sorry lol. everyones saying its shifting west which would mean snow for us on sunday.

Posted by: lll1424 | December 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

As an OH native, I have yet to understand why DC, MD & VA have not adopted their "Snow Emergency Level" model when it comes to snow & roads . . . A Level 1 means conditions are less than ideal, and use caution; Level 2 means all non-essential travel should be postponed; and Level 3 means if you are not out for an essential purpose (medical personnel, fire/EMS, police), you will be fined and possibly jailed. Each county sherriff's office (no county police in OH) sets the level, thus taking the decision out of the hands of employers and others who are less than qualified to make a determination.

Still, am glad it's not like last year . . . so far.

Posted by: dcbuck | December 16, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I went out in the morning near Loudoun county and the roads were slick. I couldn't see not even one cleaning truck.

Posted by: Sash2 | December 16, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

It's not really being lazy waiving those extra days of school. It's more about being cost efficient. Have you ever been in school within the last 10 years where there were make up days tacked on to the end of the year? Students don't do anything and teacher's just show a movie. Don't get the misconception that if there's school there is always learning going on. Do you really want your tax dollars spent on paying teacher's to show a movie and paying to open the schools so kids can just go and do nothing? I think not.

Posted by: Drauren | December 16, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

It's not really being lazy waiving those extra days of school. It's more about being cost efficient. Have you ever been in school within the last 10 years where there were make up days tacked on to the end of the year? Students don't do anything and teacher's just show a movie. Don't get the misconception that if there's school there is always learning going on. Do you really want your tax dollars spent on paying teacher's to show a movie and paying to open the schools so kids can just go and do nothing? I think not.

Posted by: Drauren | December 16, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

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