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Posted at 1:15 PM ET, 02/28/2011

Tornado watch dropped for metro region

By Jason Samenow

Showery through the afternoon

1:50 p.m.: The tornado watch has been dropped for the southeast suburbs (Prince George's, Calvert, Charles, and St. Mary's counties)

1:40 p.m. update: At least one report of damaging winds has come in from Prince Frederick in Calvert co. where a tree came down on a power line.

1:30 p.m. update: The tornado watch has been canceled for the entire metro region except southern Maryland where it should be dropped soon. Though some areas experienced ominous skies, heavy downpours and gusty winds, I have yet to see any reports of severe weather. The early onset of the storms limited their intensity. Although the cold front won't come through until later and more rain showers are possible through the evening commute, severe storms aren't likely to develop as the atmosphere has stabilized quite a bit from the recent rain. Temperatures should generally be around 60. Gusty winds and colder air move in tonight. Ian will have more in his PM Update around 3:30 p.m.

Keep reading for earlier updates...

Basic information: Due to the potential for severe thunderstorms which may produce a few tornadoes in the region, NOAA's Storm Prediction Center has issued a tornado watch through 4 p.m. for points south and southeast of the District. Previously the watch was in effect for much of the metro region but at 11:31 a.m., the watch was discontinued for Montgomery, Howard, Loudoun, and Frederick counties in Md. The watch was then canceled for the District and western suburbs in Va. at 12:40 p.m and the southeast suburbs at 1:50 p.m.

The most likely timing for storm activity to impact the metro region is late morning to around noon in the northwestern and northern suburbs and noon through the late afternoon and evening elsewhere. However, a few storms could break out ahead of this line, affecting areas in the immediate metro region around or even prior to noon. During the afternoon, additional storms likely fire up behind the initial line that passed through the north and northwest suburbs.

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Earlier updates:


1:15 p.m update: The threat of severe weather has largely cleared the region. The severe t'storm warning that had been in effect in eastern suburbs has been canceled. On and off showers are now likely through the evening commute, but not should reach severe levels.

12:50 p.m. update: The tornado watch has been canceled except for counties east and southeast of the District - i.e. Calvert, Charles, Prince George's and St. Mary's counties.

12:40 p.m. update: Severe thunderstorm warning issued for storm (mentioned below) over extreme southern Prince George's, Charles and St. Mary's co until 1:30 p.m.. These storms are rapidly heading toward Chesapeake Bay, but may produce some gusts to 60 mph before exiting the region.

12:35 p.m. update: The strongest activity has passed east of the District and stretches from southern Prince George's county through western Charles county (and somewhat into eastern Stafford county). Though heavy rains and gusty winds are accompany the activity, no warnings are in effect. That means the threat of severe weather has diminished from D.C. and points west. However, rain showers remain possible through this evening.

12:10 p.m. update: South and southwest of the beltway in southern Fairfax county, central Prince William county and southern Fauquier county, the line of storms is intensifying. Heavy rain and strong winds are likely with this line of storms as it moves east toward Alexandria, southern Prince George's county, and Charles county.

12:00 p.m update: While the north and northwest suburbs are no longer under a tornado watch, it has has been extended southeast to include Calvert and St. Mary's county.

11:45 a.m. update: Heavy rain showers have raced into eastern Fairfax county and will enter NW D.C. in the next 15 minutes. More showers and storms to the southwest will approach and move through the southern suburbs in the next hour. Still no reports of severe weather, and the likelihood of much materializing is lowering. The best odds of severe now look to be from Fredericksburg and to the south and southeast.

11:35 a.m. update: Tornado watch canceled for Montgomery, Loudoun, Frederick and Howard counties

11:30 a.m. update:: Still not seeing any severe weather, just some heavy rain and gusty winds - mainly in Loudoun county and northern Fauquier county. This activity will continue racing northeastward, affecting Montgomery county and possibly western Fairfax county during the next 30 minutes. The rain/storms may impact eastern Fairfax county and the District between noon and 1 p.m. before heading toward the eastern suburbs.

11:10 a.m. update This northern branch of the squall line impacting Loudoun and western/central Montgomery county has weakened quite a bit, though some downpours and gusty winds have been reported. This activity is racing off to the northeast and may miss a good part of Fairfax county and the District. These areas and especially points south are those to watch for the development of stronger activity early this afternoon as temperatures have spiked well into the 60s and even the low 70s, potentially destabilizing the atmosphere. There is still a lot of activity to the west and southwest to monitor as it advances northeast over the next few hours.

10:45 a.m. update: Storms have now reached extreme western Montgomery county and are impacting Leesburg in Loudoun county. The good news is that the line of storms has weakened and no severe thunderstorm warnings are in effect. However, heavy downpours and gusty winds to 30 mph are likely with these storms. This line of storms should head through Montgomery county in the next 45 minutes to hour. In Fairfax county, the storm should arrive in 30-45 minutes and reach the beltway by around noon. The storms, if they hold together, could impact the District by lunchtime. This line of storms is likely to be followed by additional activity later this afternoon.

10:20 a.m. update: These storms are flying to the east around 65 mph - and headed toward the metro region sooner than anticipated earlier today and last night. Frederick county will experience strong storms in the next 45 minutes and they will bear down on northwest Montgomery county shortly before 11 a.m. To the south, northwest Loudoun county will get hit by strong storm in next 30 mins, line to near Dulles in about an hour.

9:45 a.m. update The northeastern edge of the squall line is already producing intense storms in West Virginia panhandle, extreme northwest Virginia and Washington county in Maryland where a Severe Thunderstorm Warning is in effect until 10:30 a.m.. The warning extends into western Frederick county as well and should impact Frederick itself in another 45 minutes to hour.

9:05 a.m update: Due to the potential for severe thunderstorms which may produce a few tornadoes in the region, NOAA's Storm Prediction Center has issued a tornado watch through 4 p.m. for much of the metro region, except the southeast suburbs.

Currently, a strong squall line stretches from western Maryland to eastern Kentucky (see regional radar). This is the line to monitor, as it advances northeast late this morning and this afternoon.

Here are some of the key excerpts from SPC's watch statement:

tornado-watch-022811.jpg
Area covered by tornado watch

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 0.5 INCH IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE . . .

TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

DISCUSSION... QUASI LINEAR CONVECTIVE SYSTEM [i.e. squall line] CURRENTLY MOVING THROUGH THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS IS EXPECTED TO MOVE EAST OF THE BLUE RIDGE BY LATE MORNING. AIR MASS EAST OF THE HIGHER TERRAIN IS CHARACTERIZED BY STEEP MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES AND A WARMING/MOISTENING BOUNDARY LAYER. GIVEN THE STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR IN PLACE...SETUP WILL REMAIN FAVORABLE FOR EMBEDDED BOWING AND/OR SUPERCELL FEATURES WITH THE THREAT FOR DAMAGING WINDS AND PERHAPS A TORNADO OR TWO.

By Jason Samenow  | February 28, 2011; 1:15 PM ET
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Comments

Would really prefer a 'Severe Thundersnow Watch'

Posted by: kudzu13 | February 28, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Considering that few readers probably know where Dublin, VA, is, it would be helpful if someone put up a link to a map of the watch area.

Posted by: GordonCash | February 28, 2011 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Looking at the National Mosaic Enhanced Radar, this system seems just HUGE. I can't believe it'll really get through by 4:00 p.m.

Posted by: tinkerbelle | February 28, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

@GordonCash

Initially I just threw the watch text up there before I had time to include the map. The map is now there.

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Seems as though this morning's light rain is contributing to the instability and the vertical sheer, especially as the sun hits it.

Posted by: ennepe68 | February 28, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

...In like a lion...

Posted by: authorofpoetry | February 28, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Toto I don't think we're in Kansas anymore....but nobody told the tornadoes.

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 28, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

OK, this will be a fun day of radar watching. Ready the bunker.

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 28, 2011 9:53 AM | Report abuse

OMG, I'm scared to death. Should I run get some toilet paper, milk and bread?

Posted by: rpcv84 | February 28, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

@tinkerbelle--it went over Louisville at 4:30am and was hitting Snowshoe and Elkins by 9:30. Current warnings claim that the system is moving east at 60mph. The heavy stuff will easily be here by 3pm, if not earlier. With the way that the first line is developing, we could get our first punch inside the beltway before lunch!

Posted by: jkuchen | February 28, 2011 9:59 AM | Report abuse

This really moved in faster than anyone's forecast. Last night, the thought was "during or after evening rush". Now, we're looking at lunchtime for the northern suburbs!

Posted by: marklandterrapins | February 28, 2011 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Thru my Weatherbug interface I was looking at live webcams from Kentucky (which seems to be getting hit the hardest right now) and things do indeed look scary. Batten down the hatches, some serious weather is coming.

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 28, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

@rpcv84

Strongly recommended. If these cells are as bad as they're saying, I think we'll all need the toilet paper.

Posted by: AsymptoticUnlimited | February 28, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

This is moving in about 4 hours earlier than we initially anticipated.

Posted by: Jason-CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

i'm with kudzu!

but... the "extremist" in me is eagerly anticipating this storm. and wow - that's a nice "leading edge":
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_lite_loop.php

perhaps today's "festivities" will remind us how truly benign snowstorms are. i guess one difference is the rain drains away (often to cause flooding...) whereas the snow sticks around (hopefully!) for days/weeks after the event. so, for instance, after a rain storm, you can get to the store for TP and french toast supplies pretty much right after the storm ends.

ennepe,
what do you mean by, "this morning's light rain is contributing to the instability and the vertical sheer"? evaporation, maybe?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we could be in the "Severe Thunderstorm Hole"? If it works for snow, why not for T-storms?

Posted by: marcm2 | February 28, 2011 10:28 AM | Report abuse

It'll all be over for those of us west of the city before lunchtime. Darn....was planning on enjoying the heat wave temps with my burrito.

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 28, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Friend in Columbus, Ohio said they got nailed this morning. Trees down, power outages. They delayed his daughter's school for 2 hours.

Posted by: SPS1 | February 28, 2011 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Real wimpy line just went through Lovettsville, VA (NW Loudoun County); no lightning, just a few minutes of heavy rain.

Posted by: k9frizb | February 28, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

[ @rwalker... while we may not be in kansas, tornadoes are no strangers to southern md. ]

in only 2002 our neighboring town of la plata in charles county, md was pretty much destroyed from a tornado. my husband was stuck in his house for a week as it took that long for them to cut through all the trees that blocked them in from getting to the main road! everyone please make sure to take tornado warnings seriously!

Posted by: jboastfield | February 28, 2011 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I think this is the appropriate opportunity to start a PEPCOcast.

Posted by: tobriggs | February 28, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Ugh. I saw how nice it was this morning, figured we had at least until lunch before we needed to worry, and moved my daughter's play date outside to a park in Fairfax. Here's hoping we can get at least an hour in before the storm gets to us...and that our munchkins don't fly away to Oz.

Posted by: redsoxgirl | February 28, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

For NW exurbs, Alex Liggitt just said that the strong t-storms now are likely the worst of it for the day, due to the area's early showers and lower a.m. temps compared to rest of region which made NW exurbs less destabilized. I hope he's right. There's still a ton of stuff on radar.

Posted by: tinkerbelle | February 28, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

What storms? What downpours? What gusty winds? Leesburg got a brief shower.

Posted by: rigeldc | February 28, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Strong gust front just passed through Rockville area. I estimate 50 mph+ gust. No rain yet.

Posted by: DOG3521 | February 28, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Drove through an ugly storm just west of Charles Town, WV, this morning. The sky was black and the clouds were swirling over head. Glad everything seems to be moving through earlier than anticipated, though.

Posted by: js2225 | February 28, 2011 10:57 AM | Report abuse

@rigeldc

It looks like the storms weakened as they came over the mountains. It was a solid line of "red". Now there is just a little yellow and it looks like it's going all "green".

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 28, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Oh well, so much for a good severe weather performance today. The Fizzler strikes again.

Posted by: GreenMeansGo | February 28, 2011 11:01 AM | Report abuse

It's sneaky out here in Falls Church. Balmy and a bit of a breeze, hard to believe what's on the way. Glad the storms are early.....dentist appt this afternoon to fix a crown. I was going to get there regardless of weather. Now I won't have to worry about the trip....just the wallet.

Posted by: tbva | February 28, 2011 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Looks like storms lost most of their punch as they approached DC area. Echoes were quite red as they moved through WV and VA, but now just plain old yellow & green.

Posted by: mcj59 | February 28, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Walter is right about the excitement for this weather. It's like we start our days thinking, ho hum, another workday with typical [fill in the season] weather. Then we find out that there'll be [fill in unusual-for-the-season weather] and we get oh so excited! :D

I understand that many people on this blog think that those reactions are sad, childish, mean etc. But there are plenty of things people do to get excited that are equally weird, like buying useless stuff or washing their cars every weekend!

So Walter and others, I'm also excited about these thunderstorms, and lets just hope that they don't hurt anyone or cause extreme damage.

Posted by: kolya02 | February 28, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

The line went through Warren county with 20 mph winds and a few hundredths of an inch so far. Temp dropped from 72 to 62 which is good news if you don't like instability.

Posted by: eric654 | February 28, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Just had a dry gust front roll through Rosedale (east Baltimore) minutes ago. Very gusty winds, low swirly clouds, but no rain, lightning, or anything else.

Posted by: marklandterrapins | February 28, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

My 7th floor Fair Lakes office window lets me see planes coming in for a landing at Dulles. Looks like they are trying to get them in quick before the storm hits. I saw two coming in at the same time, a big one and a smaller one.

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 28, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Wind gusting in Rosslyn...

Posted by: djm-01 | February 28, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Ack!! Those mountains have done it again, tearing up the precipitation! I wonder, do mountains have the same severe-weather-shearing effect in other parts of the country?? Or is it the added hot air from our politicians that disturbs these weather patterns?

Posted by: kolya02 | February 28, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Folks - Severe weather threat not over just b/c initial line broke up as it moved in (which models actually did a good job at hinting at, thus our earlier forecasts that focused severe threat on afternoon). Additional storminess in central Loudoun County moving to east, with more activity west/southwest of that. So afternoon severe threat remains, and still may arrive earlier in the afternoon than originally anticipated. -Dan, CWG

Posted by: CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Temperatures where the storms have gone thru have dropped 10-15 degrees. Fredericksburg currently at 72, so the south is the area to watch as the update mentions. Also now it looks like even Fairfax County isn't out of the woods as the weakened storms are now re-strengthening according to radar. Lots of orange coming back.

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 28, 2011 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I asked over the weekend, but since there are more people around on a weekday I'll ask again...

Does anyone know how/if the NWS would be affected in the event of a government shutdown?

Posted by: megamuphen | February 28, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Watching the doppler now, new cells forming up in the Virginia mountains. Although the earlier line broke up it looks like we might get some big storms inside the Beltway after all.

Posted by: barnstormer | February 28, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

It sure is dark and gloomy here in south Laurel!

Posted by: megamuphen | February 28, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Get your car windows up....incoming in Manassas.

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 28, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I was just outside. It's geting dark. I was knocked over by a gust of wind. The man standing next to me apologized for breaking wind - he had eaten burritos last tnight...

Posted by: rpcv84 | February 28, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

CWG - I likely missed the answer to this in an earlier post/comment, but just in case it hasn't been asked:

WIND has been the theme of this winter, starting in early December and continuing throughout. Is there any way to compare this year's wind with previous years, i.e. average number of days with sustained winds above 15mph for the three month period starting Dec. 1?

This actually sounds like a lot of work now that I type it out, but I've been curious about it lately given all the recent craziness. Thanks in advance!
R

Posted by: rhingo | February 28, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

@rhingo: Depends on how many people have eaten beans this winter.

Posted by: rpcv84 | February 28, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The skies have opened in Fair Oaks as the cold air is blowing in and big rain drops are falling. No thunder or lightning though....yet.

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 28, 2011 11:38 AM | Report abuse

@walter ("what do you mean by, 'this morning's light rain is contributing to the instability and the vertical sheer'? evaporation, maybe?")

I was hinting that the additional moisture on the ground and in the air would (could?) provide a catalyst for solar heating, and contribute to more vertical movement and higher lapse rates, which in turn would lead to more severe wx.

Reason I bring this up is that I don't recall yesterday's forecast for today being so long on the severe wx. Rain, yes, and t-storms yes, but tornadoes? That came in today. So the question is, does (or how much does) the morning rainfall contribute to more unstable weather.

Posted by: ennepe68 | February 28, 2011 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Is that 11:35 pm update supposed to say 11:35 am?

Posted by: fackenthal1 | February 28, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

CWG,

I really appreciate your updates! I feel as if I am being held by the hand through each forecast. I like it!

Thank you!

Posted by: ThinkWarm | February 28, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Little cell about to enter the district. The north end of the line near Mannassas might clip DC proper as well.

Posted by: Brian-CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Won't these showers keep temps down and hence instability later on?

Posted by: mcj59 | February 28, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

kinda dark w/light rain here in falls church. nothing spectacular. in fact, it's not windy at all.

btw, is there a NAM loop that shows surface temps?

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Thunder in Bristow just now...

Posted by: manassasmissy | February 28, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Nice mamatus cloud deck passing NW to SE over Alexandria now.

Posted by: ennepe68 | February 28, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

moderate rain in falls church. 62 degrees and dropping.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

It's night in Rosslyn

Posted by: weathergeek1 | February 28, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

mcj59 - dewpoints remain high which are going to keep things unstable. Plus we have lift increasing in the atmosphere, as the cold front approaches from the west

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

kolya02,

You do realize that the other "weird things" about which people get excited, such as "buying useless stuff or washing their cars every weekend," don't actually result in loss of property or life to those who don't share in their enthusiasm, right?

So, please, if we could keep the bloodlust for KILLER X-TREME WEATHER on this page down to a dull roar, that'd be much appreciated.

Posted by: dcreader6 | February 28, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

dcreader6: Amen.

Posted by: tinkerbelle | February 28, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

While it is dark downtown, so far we have mostly just plain moderate rain - no thunder to speak of... yet. Everyone ready to stay indoors or dart among the Metro Center buildings for lunch? Oh, wait, 1233pm--first rumble of thunder just now!

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Rats, just heard thunder here in Arlington. Guess we're not out of the woods yet, huh?

Posted by: Akabang | February 28, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

dcreader6: Thank you SO much. Once these extreme weather fans have a tree crash through their roof into their bedroom like I had last August and have to deal with four months of reconstruction on their home, THEN they can crow about wanting severe weather--if they still find that they like it.

I depend on CWG for rational, up-to-date forecasts. Thanks so much, CWG.

Posted by: lmd217 | February 28, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

ThinkWarm - thanks for following us.. we want to keep you all safe!

Wow, I see that ennepe68 reports seeing cumulus mammatus clouds in Alexandria.. any other Alexandria folks see these? They are pretty rare, but admittedly associated with the type of severe weather/atmospheric conditions we are experiencing today.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I love thunderstorms.

Had a big flash and bang of thunder in the Mount Vernon area a few minutes ago. It scared the bejeezus out of the girls in my library.

(And yes, I've had to clean up after my fair share of them -- I grew up in Florida.)

Posted by: Melewen | February 28, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

a few rumbles of thunder. back to light rain. i see a big "hole" opening up on the national radar behind this current stuff that's hitting us... classic... my bloodlust for killer extreme weather is unfulfilled so far.

dcreader6,
don't forget to grab your helmet, goggles and knee pads on your way out the door - it's a dangerous world out there!

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from lunch. According to the car thermometer, it's all the way down to 52 degrees in Rosedale.

Posted by: marklandterrapins | February 28, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Akabang - no we are not out of the woods yet. Cold front that will clear out all this instability (perhaps with one final round of storms) is still far off to our west, over West Virginia. It hasn't even arrived at Garrett County MD yet.. and is moving somewhat slowly.

Posted by: Camden-CapitalWeatherGang | February 28, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I concur with the report of the cummulus mammatus clouds near old town. I thought about snapping a picture because they looked 'cool'. I didnt know this was a special cloud type before your post. Thanks for the education.

Posted by: OldTownVA1 | February 28, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Bust!

Hey, we say it with snow.

Posted by: BDVienna | February 28, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. How many times do ya'll have to be told that the enjoyment by some of severe weather has absolutely 0 impact on whether or not your power goes out, a tree goes through your window, or your basement floods?! Give it a rest! Some of us enjoy the varied and exciting weather events that we get around here. It doesn't make us bad people. Yeesh.

(And yes, I sustained property damage from both of the recent wind events)

Posted by: megamuphen | February 28, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

We just had a downpour and some thunder in
Ft Washington. Definately a snow lover here but have to admit I enjoyed hearing the thunder and sitting on the porch watching the storm go by......

Posted by: ftwash | February 28, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

(I mean, the wind was going to rip my screen door out of the frame, and tear the frame from the siding whether or not I thought the wind was cool or interesting. May as well enjoy the storm, rather than mope and fret about it, THEN have to deal with the damage on top of it. But hey, maybe I'm just a glass-half-full kinda gal)

Posted by: megamuphen | February 28, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha, walter-in-fallschurch, my ribs are tickled, stop already!

But seriously, have you consulted a medical professional regarding your snow/extreme weather obsession? Because it's starting to worry me quite a bit. And by "worry," I mean "annoy."

Posted by: dcreader6 | February 28, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

A scientific weather term named for boobs?

If there was any person left on earth needing convincing that meterologists have a healthy geek streak in 'em, that should do it.

Posted by: AsymptoticUnlimited | February 28, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

megamuphen,

Regarding your question "How many times do ya'll have to be told that the enjoyment by some of severe weather has absolutely 0 impact on whether or not your power goes out, a tree goes through your window, or your basement floods?!", I'd say it doesn't matter how many times you tell us (and, honest, don't feel compelled to chime in on the topic), it still doesn't make any sense. Because what you're saying is "I enjoy extreme weather despite knowing that X many thousands of people will suffer."

Here, I'll rewrite your paragraph for you and set it overseas:

How many times do ya'll have to be told that the enjoyment by some of armed insurrection has absolutely 0 impact on whether or not your family gets shot, your house set aflame, or your car stolen?! Give it a rest! Some of us enjoy the varied and exciting political events that we get around here. It doesn't make us bad people. Yeesh.


"Yeesh," indeed. No, don't thank me. Just happy to clarify.

Posted by: dcreader6 | February 28, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

We got a pretty good soaking here at Belvoir, but it looks to be mostly done. At least it wasn't 38 degrees...

Posted by: TBAlexandria | February 28, 2011 1:42 PM | Report abuse

dcreader6,

Armed insurrections are caused by PEOPLE. Someone's enjoyment for armed insurrections may indeed contribute to their happening. Actual humans have the ability to alter the course of such events. The same cannot be said about weather. Weather is inevitable.

Posted by: megamuphen | February 28, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

dcreader6,
(false) thank you for your (false) concern. (false) sorry my enthusiasm for exciting weather annoys you, but it's a WEATHER website. to reduce your annoyance, please just skip my posts. i generally just skip the parental-sounding "oohh this weather is dangerous" posts, but your "bloodlust for KILLER X-TREME WEATHER" line was just too over-the-top funny/ridiculous to ignore...

and now, wow, your comparison of weather to world political events is just crazy.

i won't pretend to be concerned about your mental health/rationality, but your horribly invalid analogy implies you don't understand that weather is a NATURAL phenomenon, whereas politics/insurrections etc... are not. those are people fighting for political/religious freedom... see the difference?

i guess we weather extremists should be flattered that you think we can affect the weather, but if you're upset about the dangerous weather befalling you, take it up with your god. yeesh, indeed.
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anyway... this light, but boring, rain we've settled into is just the thing, i suppose, for alleviating the near-drought conditions 'round here.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

It's officially a "rainy day" now.

Posted by: FIREDRAGON47 | February 28, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

But a nice mild rain unlike the nasty cold rains that are still ahead of us in March. I went for a walk and heard my first spring peepers, a little ahead of schedule and daytime instead of nighttime.

Posted by: eric654 | February 28, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

megamuphen and walter-in-fallschurch,

You miss my point entirely. An armed insurrection, like a destructive windstorm, is outside of the average person's sphere of control. One person sitting in his or her living room is as helpless before the effects of one as of the other. The notion that one is "caused" by people, the other by nature is irrelevant. Your remarks ignore the underlying point that if you root for one form of misery-causing event, it is essentially no different than if you root for the other.

And, walter-in-fallschurch, much as I'd like to ignore your repeated pleas for snow, they camouflage themselves neatly against the other, reasoned comments on this site. Could you be a dear and preface your posts with "OBSESSIVE SNOW TWADDLE AHEAD"? That'd be swell. Thanks.

Posted by: dcreader6 | February 28, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Kids, stop fighting. Don't make me pull this car over.

Posted by: rwalker66 | February 28, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

i'll preface mine that way if you'll preface yours with "WHINY WORRY WART WARBLE WARNING". ;-)

rwalker,
that's funny! i'll behave now.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

dcreader, as much as I hate to drag this on, I don't think Walter has missed the point at all. While you or I have no control over armed insurrections, SOMEONE does. Who, exactly, controls the weather?

Posted by: Melewen | February 28, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

the funny thing is, usually, the warning i hear is along the lines of "stop talking about politics and/or religion". the default topic that couldn't possibly start an argument is generally the weather...

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"the default topic that couldn't possibly start an argument is generally the weather"

lol walter, looks like we can't talk about weather on a weather blog

Posted by: crazer | February 28, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Melewen,

Well, that's part of my point. In the case of something like an armed insurrection, as you note, "someone" controls it, but, from the standpoint of Joe or Jane sitting at home, it doesn't make a difference because it's an event that's too large for _them_ to affect at all. The issue of "control" is beside the point from the originating side; it's the inability of a given individual to stop the insurrection/windstorm to which I speak.

All of which strays a bit from the point I intended to foreground, which is that the consequence-free joyride with extreme weather on the part of some of the participants on this site is objectionable from my standpoint. That said, chacun à son goût, so long as no trees fly into houses and no cars are trapped by flash floods.

Posted by: dcreader6 | February 28, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

jeepers, Walter, get a job.

Posted by: tinkerbelle | February 28, 2011 3:57 PM | Report abuse

tinkerbelle,
ha! good one. my boss (me) lets me work whatever hours i want as long as i get my work done.

Posted by: walter-in-fallschurch | February 28, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

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